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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's your old pal and trusted confidante Josh

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Speaker 1: and for this week's s Y s K selects, I've

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Speaker 1: chosen How Wills Work to Die in the Wool example

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Speaker 1: of a classic Stuff You Should Know episode where we

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Speaker 1: did our absolute best to find the most interesting stuff

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Speaker 1: about a seemingly boring topic. Plus it's chock full of

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Speaker 1: helpful legal advice issued by a pair of decidedly non

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Speaker 1: Take care of Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a

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Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as

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Speaker 1: always is Charles W. Chuck Chucker, Chuck Tran, Brian Chuck

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Speaker 1: trans so weird to me, I don't get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no recollection of where that came from. Are no? Wait?

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Speaker 1: It was from a show though, Yeah, you didn't just

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Speaker 1: make that up, not just now, No, it was there

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Speaker 1: was It was in relation to something we were talking

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Speaker 1: about at the time. Someone It made sense once, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: I was on our Facebook page. I was looking for

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Speaker 1: discussions like sometimes I like to go on and read

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Speaker 1: like what's your favorite line? Did you ever. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever read this? It's like a trip down memory lane. Really. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like whole discussion threats. There's like forty different threats

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Speaker 1: people have created. But there was one that was like,

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Speaker 1: all time? And I can't I can't find that thread

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Speaker 1: any longer. It was a good one. Did you go

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Speaker 1: many I had? I did not count. I kept a

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Speaker 1: write anything down as it as it were. Chuck. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine was a pretty good year for movies. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: allow me. That year the Muppet movie came out, Creamer

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Speaker 1: Versus Kramer was number one at the box office. One

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Speaker 1: of my personal favorites Amityville Horror, the first one, the

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Speaker 1: nineteen nine one m what do you Allen's Manhattan the Jerk.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite all time movie. Manhattan is I've not

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Speaker 1: seen it? What I have not? Okay? The Jerk is awesome?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, the Jerk or Manhattan? I said Manhattan. You said,

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Speaker 1: the subject. Okay, all right. I like the Jerk, Alien,

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Speaker 1: Rocky Too, Alien so far ahead of its time, Moonraker

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Speaker 1: candle too in my opinion. Overlooked movie by director Michael

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Speaker 1: Schultz a classic called Scavenger Hunt. Really have you ever

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Speaker 1: seen it? No, you've not seen Scavenger Hunt? Uh? No?

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Speaker 1: Was it kind of a riff on? It's a mad, mad,

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Speaker 1: Okay um. I personally think that it's a great movie

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Speaker 1: and it's about vin and Price. While it begins, Vincent Price,

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Speaker 1: though he was much more suave than he led on. Um,

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Speaker 1: his his former home, and his lawyer is executing a

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Speaker 1: will which his stated worth two million dollars. And it

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Speaker 1: turns out we learned very quickly as all the characters assemble,

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Speaker 1: you really not seen it? No, I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a very cheap person um or can't

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Speaker 1: of that was that number one, scaveng John is a

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Speaker 1: good movie, and number two people do some wacky things

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Speaker 1: with wills. That scenario wasn't that far off from things

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Speaker 1: that people have done with their wills. We're talking about wheels, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: this is one of the first articles I wrote, and

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Speaker 1: it's comprehensive, it's got everything you need. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't get into like any of the legal mamo jumbo,

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Speaker 1: you brought that up. We are not attorneys. You should

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Speaker 1: on Please do not do that. No, but that being said,

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Speaker 1: we should probably say that again and again through this

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Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the specifics. Man. If if

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Speaker 1: make your will as close to legal as possible? And

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Speaker 1: still be valid. But you still should check your state's

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Speaker 1: or at least call the state. I didn't think you'd

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Speaker 1: stop me so early, all right, So what you want

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Speaker 1: to have, at the very bare minimum is your name,

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Speaker 1: your spouse's name if you have one, and when you

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Speaker 1: name an alternate list of powers that you want that

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Speaker 1: founding a movement that if your debtors can't get the

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Speaker 1: money they need out of you while you're alive, that's that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But there there are um, there are onuses on credit

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Speaker 1: In the end um burial instructions. You can sometimes put

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Speaker 1: slow things down because you can say I I want this,

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Speaker 1: generally probably shouldn't hold conversations with lapper cons that tell

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Speaker 1: you to burn things, right, that's usually a big red

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Speaker 1: and I'm surprised it's it's easier to write your child

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Speaker 1: out of your will than your spouse. Yeah. And you

424
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Speaker 1: you you brought the child into the world, you married

425
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Speaker 1: the spouse. I was surprised by that too, Chuck. Yeah, you,

426
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Speaker 1: like you said, you disinherit a child for unless you

427
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Speaker 1: have some sort of ironclad pre nup, then your spouse

428
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Speaker 1: husband or wife is gonna be um, gonna be getting

429
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: some dough a half. Generally is the is the way

430
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Speaker 1: to go. Um. So, spouses are tough. Kids are easy, right,

431
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: but um, most lawyers will be like don't do that.

432
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Speaker 1: Do not just disinherit, and don't try to cut your

433
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Speaker 1: spouse out. It's gonna make you look like a jerk.

434
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Speaker 1: It's going to make a judge overturn your will. Here's

435
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Speaker 1: what you do. You give them each fifty cents. Okay, right,

436
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: pretty horrible, Right? That didn't make you look like a jerk, No,

437
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But you put in an into rum clause

438
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: that says that if they challenge the will, that they

439
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: forfeit everything. And you know what that means in Latin,

440
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: it means in order to frighten. So basically it's saying,

441
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's trying to scare someone off right, So

442
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: the fifty cents thing wouldn't work, right, You want to

443
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: leave them enough so that they are they they're gonna

444
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: have what they need, but they're still offended, like exactly right,

445
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: So like they're like, well, I could buy five tho

446
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: dollars with a crack with that five thousand dollars, maybe

447
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I should just stick with this, you know. Yeah, divorce

448
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: can complicate things. Obviously, some states renders the will invalid,

449
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: but most times just the parts where the spouses in

450
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Speaker 1: there will be addressed. So the bequest is what the

451
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: people get. The beneficiaries are the people who get bequests.

452
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Speaker 1: Actually figured out like a pretty good sentence to explain

453
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Speaker 1: all this. The beneficiary receives a bequest from the testator's

454
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Speaker 1: will in probate court at the behest of the executor.

455
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Speaker 1: So however, thank you m hm. So the the beneficiaries

456
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Speaker 1: are all going to get slapped with what is called

457
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Speaker 1: a death tax. Really it's called in the state tax,

458
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: but opponents of the estate tax, the rich um basically

459
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: created this other name for it called the death tax,

460
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: which is like you're being taxed to die. You're not

461
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Speaker 1: actually being taxed to die. Your estates not even being taxed.

462
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Speaker 1: Your beneficiaries bequests are what are taxed. The thing is,

463
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot, you know what. I call it, one

464
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Speaker 1: final little from the government from uncle saying like, you

465
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Speaker 1: paid your whole life, you paid your whole life, you

466
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Speaker 1: died on the battlefield, and then we're going to get

467
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: some more tax and it's hefty. Yeah. Well, I mean,

468
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Speaker 1: part of the reason why the estate taxes around is

469
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Speaker 1: to prevent dynasties from taking place. But the problem is

470
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Speaker 1: with all of the loopholes tax shelters that kind of stuff. Um,

471
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: the rich are the only ones who can afford to

472
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Speaker 1: get around from paying estate taxes, So that kind of

473
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: goes under the middle class and prevents middle class dynasties

474
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Speaker 1: from being formed. But you know, it's really weird. What

475
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Speaker 1: I cannot describe to you how severe the level of

476
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: deja vu I have right now is have we had

477
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Speaker 1: a conversation about the state taxes in that same vein

478
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But we've done a podcast on

479
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: deja vu. Well, then prepare for some really vitriolic listener

480
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: mail from that one, because in my deja vu memory, Yeah,

481
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: that ticked people off. What because you said that only

482
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: the rich people can know about these loopholes, Well, they

483
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: can afford accountants that can figure out these loopholes, lawyers

484
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: that kind of things, like you ain't gonna get that

485
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: at the Staples package. No, No, it actually says good

486
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: luck with the decks death taxes, pal doesn't so chuck. Um.

487
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Speaker 1: If if you are a person living in I think

488
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: two thousand six in the United States, and you inherited

489
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: over ten thousand fifty dollars, what did you pay five

490
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: close to three grand? That's just that that's just for

491
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: inheriting ten thousand and fifty one dollars, right, yeah, well

492
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: that's the base thing. Then you have to pay an

493
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: additional thirty five percent over and above the ten thousand

494
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. So let me ask you that is that

495
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: thirty five percent on the whole thing or thirty percent

496
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: and the whole thing minus ten thousand and fifty dollars.

497
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: It's a good question, and I don't know, and I'm

498
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: sure some smart attorney will say, here's how it is. God.

499
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: But if you're inheriting a million dollars, who cares? Yeah,

500
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: well that's a lot of change. Though, if it's like

501
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: Bucks right on ten thousand, yes, Josh, you're indeed right

502
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: a million bucks? Who cares? So there's the death taxes.

503
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: You can set up a trust. That is one good

504
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: way to UM maybe pay fewer taxes UM. If smart

505
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: people often set up trust, rich people often set up trust. Well,

506
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: it also keeps your UM. You don't have to be

507
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: rich though, I've looked into trust. About too grand to

508
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: set up a trust? Yeah, yeah, it's UM And this

509
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: number one, it's it's very speedy. It keeps it out

510
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: of probate court, Like when you die, you're dying wishes

511
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: that are a part of your will that are incorporated

512
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: into this trust. That's that right, right, Um, so all

513
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: of the stuff gets divvied up right away. It stays

514
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: out of court. Yeah. And if you have a minor

515
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: in your family, a lot of times you'll set up

516
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: a trust, because if you don't set up a trust,

517
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: the court is going to assign or there will be

518
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: a conservator who will oversee the assets of the minor

519
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: and I think eighteen to twenty one generally in most states,

520
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: as when a minor can all of a sudden handle

521
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: their own fine answers. But if you set up a trust,

522
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: it's managed by the trust store and they'll handle it

523
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: for your kid. Yeah, whoever that person is, I would

524
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: imagine someone just as trustworthy is the executor, maybe one

525
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: and the same, You're right, and then Chuck. Of course,

526
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: there is the living will, right yeah, And there's a

527
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: whole article on living wills, but so we won't get

528
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: into it too specifically, but a living will has nothing

529
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: to do with your money's and properties. It is, um. Hey,

530
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: if I'm ever in a serious accident and I'm on

531
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: a ventilator, here's how I would like my um, I

532
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: would like you to pull the plug or not pull

533
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the plug. And it's more complicated than that. Yeah, because

534
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: that's like that's line one. And the line too is

535
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: if I'm ever attacked by a dog and I need

536
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: a heart that's coming, that's that my family can afford take,

537
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, pull the plug and then down the line right, Yeah,

538
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: and these need to be signed and witnessed, and power

539
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: of attorney is usually included because if you can't cover

540
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: every scenario obviously, and the power of attorney would be

541
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: let's say, you know what, I want Emily to be

542
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: in charge of making this decision and not my mom,

543
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: let's say, because my mom would be like, no, he'll

544
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: pull through and Emily be like, yeah, he doesn't look

545
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: too good. She wouldn't do that. I'm just kidding. It's

546
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: still funny, but yeah, a living will is very important

547
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: though for anyone of any age. UM, it can get

548
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: real messy. We've seen it in the news time and

549
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: time again. Uh So yeah, get your living will taken

550
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: care of. And I think you can also just do

551
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: like a blanket, like, don't don't take any heroic measures

552
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: to save me and I don't want to be on

553
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: any kind of life support mine mine says, do never

554
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: ever unplug me. Really, I want to be a burden

555
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: on my family for the rest of my life, as

556
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: long as that machine can keep me alive. I want

557
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: to be shaved once a week from top to bottom.

558
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: All Right. That segways nicely into odd things that can

559
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: happen stipulations with your will? Nice Is that how we

560
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: should finish up? Yeah, totally. You can have requirements of

561
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: your big quest stores. No, the beneficiaries and officiaries like, hey,

562
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: this article. I know it was a long time ago.

563
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: Um Like, hey, I want I want to give my

564
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: son the majority of my fortune, but he's got a

565
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: finish college first. Or quit smoking. I saw thinking of

566
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: me when you wrote that. That was not you were

567
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: smoking a ton back then, though, yes you were. Um, So,

568
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about some funny and and odd things in

569
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: history with wills. Josh finished on a lighter note. Well,

570
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: there's Portuguese aristocrat Luis Carlos de Norona Coporal the Camara.

571
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: That's terrible, and that sounded like I took a bite

572
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: of peanut butter towards the end. Do you want to

573
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: do that? One. Well, I'll now that you said his name, Um,

574
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he did. He picked seventy so

575
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to try that one. He picked seventies strangers,

576
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: random strangers from a phone book in lisbon and at

577
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: thirteen years before he died and said, these are the people,

578
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: but don't tell him. It's going to be just a

579
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: big surprise. Yeah. And some people thought they were being

580
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: conned if I did that and I died, everybody there

581
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: be um seventies strangers each getting a one dollar bill.

582
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: But I put in my will that it had to

583
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: be like crisp from the bank never circulated one dollar

584
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: bills that make them feel good. I thought, you're gonna

585
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: say it like a roller quarters or something that's another

586
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: way to go, but that's more than a dollar. Yeah,

587
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: you're right, Um McNair ill. Grin Fritz was a unsuccessful

588
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: but wealthy composer, and he said, you know what, Metropolitan

589
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Opera of New York, I'll leave you a hundred and

590
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: five grand if after I die, you put on this

591
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: opera I've I've written. And the met said, yeah, we

592
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: could use that money, but no thanks, which is like ouch, yeah,

593
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: but they said the music. It was workable. This is

594
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: not not like they said, this is awful. I think

595
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I guess it just wasn't in their plan. Um. Who else, Josh,

596
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: who else do we have here? Ony Nermi? Yeah, finished, businessman,

597
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: This is this is my favorite one. Um. He apparently,

598
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: late in life, made some friends at the rest home

599
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: where he was dying, and died, I imagine, and he said,

600
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna leave everybody here. Uh, seven

601
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: and eighty shares of a rubber boot company that I

602
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: imagine I had something to do with at some point. Um.

603
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: And that rubber boot company went on to become cell

604
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: phone giant Nokia, and all of those people became millionaires.

605
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: I imagine all of those people's children or grandchildren became millionaires,

606
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: because I don't think Nocchia went from a boot company

607
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: to the cell phone biz like overnight. Um, but it

608
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: was still very nice. This is a good story if

609
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you ask me, H, these are pretty cool, Josh. Um

610
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: ed Headrick the inventor. Um, well, I'm not the inventor

611
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: of the frisbee, but he's credited with perfecting the modern frisbee.

612
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: He wanted to be. He took it out of its

613
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: original Squareship exactly. He worked for WAMO, obviously, and he

614
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: said he know what, I want my ashes to be

615
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: molded into memorial versions of the Frisbee and sell those

616
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: and use the money from those to open up at

617
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Frisbee Museum. And then another guy, a Marvel comic writer,

618
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: Mark Gruenwald, said, I would like my ashes to be

619
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: mixed with ink and be on a comic book. And

620
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: when he died young at forty two, there were four

621
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: thousand inc and Ashes issues of Squadron Supreme printed. Yeah,

622
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't you be disappointed if that was the one you

623
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: got printed in? Well? That was probably it was probably

624
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: his comic though I still want to be in The Punished, Okay,

625
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I want to be in a better comic. And who

626
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: else Dusty Springfield? Shall we mention her? Hers just kind

627
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: of eat. I guess it's kind of silly. She had

628
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: a cat name Nicholas, and Nicks had a favorite meal,

629
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: which was imported baby food. So she left the singer

630
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: of Son of a Preacher man Um. She said, you

631
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: know what, Um, Nicholas is gonna lay on my nightgown

632
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: for the rest of nicklas Is life, and my music

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Speaker 1: is going to be played and lifetime supply that cat

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Speaker 1: food for Nicklas. Yeah. And then Leona Helmsley fifteen million

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Speaker 1: to her dog for the care of her dog. You

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Speaker 1: can't actually leave money to an animal. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: like stipulate in your will that this money is for

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Speaker 1: the care of this animal or right. And she left

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Speaker 1: her a couple of grandkids nothing and then yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then there was the There was the tree that owns

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Speaker 1: itself in Athens. The elderly couple that died or the

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Speaker 1: elderly woman that died and left this piece of land

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Speaker 1: apparently set up a trust for the tree so that

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Speaker 1: it can never be cut down or removed. And actually,

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Speaker 1: if you drive along the street, you have to go

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Speaker 1: around the roundabout that just built around the tree that

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Speaker 1: owns itself. It's got a little placard and a little

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Speaker 1: chain around it. Yea. And that tree grows up to

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Speaker 1: the center of city Hall. And that tree grew up

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Speaker 1: to be roy Comb. I got nothing else. I don't either.

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Speaker 1: If you want to read a fine article and by

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Speaker 1: a young strapping Charles W. Bryant, when he first came

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Speaker 1: to how Stuff Works dot com, just type how wills

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Speaker 1: work into the handy search bar at how stuff works

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Speaker 1: dot Com that of course brings up listener mail. All right, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna balk at this because we have

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Speaker 1: another request from a boyfriend trying to get his girl. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I feel so bad for Timmy though. Alright, alright, Timmy

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Speaker 1: before we read this, dude, if you don't get back

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00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: in touch with us and let us know what happened,

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: we will find you. Yeah, you're dead to me, even

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Speaker 1: though we can't find the other guy, we will find

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Speaker 1: you to me since too. Yeah, and since we mentioned

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Speaker 1: it other guy who we proposed, we don't like you anymore.

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Just what happened there, dude. People are clamoring to know. Alright,

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Speaker 1: to my beloved Josh and Chuck and Jerry since two

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Speaker 1: thousand nine, Uh, let me skip ahead to the interesting party. Um,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's cracking up today. Guys have been a big fan

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Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. One big thing that has changed

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Speaker 1: since that time was I found an absolutely brilliant girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: She also loves you, guys. We would spend our nights

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Speaker 1: together falling asleep listening stuff. You should know. She would

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Speaker 1: fill me in on bits I missed. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: a very sweet thing. Unfortunately, recently we were having a

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00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: rough time of things, sort of lost perspective and the

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Speaker 1: spark faded. Uh, let me go ahead and tell you, Timmy,

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00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: do the spark like that. Spark always fades. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have something else going on there. Substantial Model Airplanes is

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Speaker 1: a good one. So we both am amicably agreed that

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Speaker 1: it would be easier to split after eighteen months together.

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Speaker 1: And the best thing we both do the same university.

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Speaker 1: We are have the same courses at times. He must

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Speaker 1: be English or something. We still chat a lot and

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Speaker 1: I really miss her though, and I know she misses

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Speaker 1: me too. You don't know that, Timmy. You're about to

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00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: find out we were great together and just needed this

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: time apart to sort out our heads and commit back

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Speaker 1: to one another. What I would like to do, guys,

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Speaker 1: is for you to say to Elaine, would you please

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Speaker 1: get back with Timmy? Go back out with him. He's

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Speaker 1: boyfriend again. I'm sorry girlfriend. I know she'll be listening.

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Speaker 1: It would be a great way of me showing her

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00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: how much I still care. Or you could just talk

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Speaker 1: to her that's that's another thing, or that he's watching her.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll do any more of these. Um,

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Speaker 1: I love her, I want to spend my future with her.

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Speaker 1: I would be really grateful for this. So that's the deal, Timmy.

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Speaker 1: It says much love Elaine. Take him back or don't.

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Speaker 1: Either way, Timmy, Please let us know what happens so

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Speaker 1: we can follow up and tell people what happened with

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Speaker 1: the Timmy Elne soccer and that is it. That is

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00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: as dead as Haiku and disco. We're not doing that anymore,

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: never again. No, all right, agreed? Okay, thanks a lot, Timmy.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you forever. All right, Um, Chuck, are

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Speaker 1: you okay with that? No, I'm fine, because it just

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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: gets out of hand and then you know, we're asking

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Speaker 1: people out on a first date all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: and hey, can you tell my friend Joe to pick

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Speaker 1: up the tab every now and then? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's I'm okay with that one. Okay, Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about freeloaders. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna let's call for that in the email. Um, now,

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Speaker 1: we'll do that something they'll send him anyway. Okay, all right,

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