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Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL Podcast. Is ready for the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Well we better be. I mean started like five days ago.

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Speaker 1: If we're not ready for the playoffs, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what what's gonna go down. We're still at the bus station.

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Speaker 1: Come on, welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansen's Heroes. That's Mark Sessler. Greg Rosenthal looking like

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Speaker 1: Han Solo. According to Mark Sessler, laser saber take it out, baby,

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Speaker 1: all right. I don't understand how you don't understand that

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Speaker 1: he's not part of any sort of Labors laser saber scenario.

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Speaker 1: But if you're watching this on YouTube, Greg has the

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Speaker 1: Han Solo from the original Star Wars look with like

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Speaker 1: the kind of crisp white shirt underneath the black vest.

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Speaker 1: Leads us how it looks to me, and I um,

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Speaker 1: I think he could he do well on Hallo like

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Speaker 1: a Halloween night, as like a daddy going out as

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Speaker 1: Han Solo. I don't know what's happening below what I

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Speaker 1: see on the screen. It I mean, yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: some sweatpants on. We're at home. I just know this

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Speaker 1: is the highest compliment Mark's ever given me, and that

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Speaker 1: Mark's never wanted me more physically than than right now

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Speaker 1: in this what's all accurate? Also, I don't know where

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Speaker 1: Amica stands on that whole franchise, but you can like

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Speaker 1: maybe take it back to the house after the show

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Speaker 1: and be like, I'm not your father a zing zing

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Speaker 1: zing you are your Your ability to capture the narrative

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Speaker 1: of that franchise is appallingly low, seriously brand for you, Like,

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Speaker 1: how many times did Simone have to say no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to role play Star Wars until you just

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Speaker 1: gave it up and just figured that's not going to

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Speaker 1: be my life. Well, why do you assume that she

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Speaker 1: said no? Good answer? How do you know you really

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Speaker 1: think Mark would marry a woman that didn't go down

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Speaker 1: that road? All right, you know this is all very inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: especially at the top of the show. Yes, is Pound

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Speaker 1: for a Pound the greatest week of football of the

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Speaker 1: calendar year, Divisional playoffs. We got rid of all that trash.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the trash. We got rid of

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Steelers, Are you kidding me? Eagles? Fu gazy?

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Speaker 1: Oh they're all gone. Patriots a sneaky bit of trash.

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Speaker 1: Didn't know they were trashed, but they were all boys

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Speaker 1: come on, cowboys, They gone cowboys, flat track bullies as

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Speaker 1: what's left studs like Greg Rosenthal in a brown jacket

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Speaker 1: that reminds Mark of the Fantasy movie franchise is the

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Speaker 1: sci fi sci fi and I think maybe you, instead

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Speaker 1: of you know, taking minutes out of the show asking

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Speaker 1: these questions, you could do eight minutes of research and

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Speaker 1: be as up to snuff as possible for any comment

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Speaker 1: I would make about I'm just going to tell you

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Speaker 1: and maybe maybe a little people are in the dark here.

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Speaker 1: Mark is a Star Wars fanatic. Pretend that he's not,

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Speaker 1: but he's the guy that's at the theater the night

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Speaker 1: it opens. It doesn't matter which of the seven hundred

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Speaker 1: sequels it is. I want to say this Mark is

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Speaker 1: someone that is ignorant to it. Obviously, I have put

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Speaker 1: it out there that you and your little Star Wars

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Speaker 1: buddy Zumwalt, I was open to sitting down and watching

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Speaker 1: the best one of them, whatever it was, and I

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Speaker 1: and you guys never took me up on it. So

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Speaker 1: now I'm like a rebel fighter, like a Darth Maul

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Speaker 1: figure now, so you definitely know more than than You're right.

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Speaker 1: We we didn't do a good job on that invitation,

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Speaker 1: because I think it happened not too far before a

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Speaker 1: national pandemic struck the country, so we could we could reinvestigate.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's enough Star Wars for today. It is.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all the games. Bengals, Titans, Niners, Packers, Rams, Bucks, Bills, Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Any of those teams can win the Super Bowl. And

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Speaker 1: that's why this week has the potential to be a

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Speaker 1: real special Divisional Round playoff. Let's start with the a

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Speaker 1: Greater metro area. The Cincinnati Bengals, who come off that

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Speaker 1: goodwin for the entire region, for the fan base, and

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Speaker 1: you got that you're handing out game balls throughout the city.

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Speaker 1: And Mark the Titans are well rested. They are a

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Speaker 1: It's like this Titans team, finally, this is the team

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Speaker 1: we've waited for their back. They got here through I

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Speaker 1: think valiant play with a lot of challenges, another team

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Speaker 1: you get Cincinnati into what happened last week with the

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Speaker 1: Paul Dayner talked about it, the weaknesses their interior offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the strength of this team, especially

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Speaker 1: play caller. Well, they improved a lot on defense this year,

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Speaker 1: The Titans have been waiting for this game, and I

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Speaker 1: Greg banging the drum that za Zach Taylor is maybe

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Speaker 1: And I know the idea that the Titans are being

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Speaker 1: that mean Cincinnati wins? No? Then it goes back to

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Speaker 1: the offense of the Titans. Obviously. Uh, Derrick Henry is

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Speaker 1: and so they're gonna have to take him real seriously.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's on the field, like it

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Speaker 1: step it up. Also, who asked for recompense when giving

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Speaker 1: him an international platform? Cool boys? Not cool? Now onto

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Speaker 1: the lock this week, since West of Thiss was so

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Speaker 1: good to us, we were going with the Bengals again,

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Speaker 1: Joey Burrow and company or on a role and aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna be satisfied with just one playoff wind Jamaar Chase

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Speaker 1: would be during the gritty and Nashville get Lincoln is

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Speaker 1: Bengals gear again, Kisha Sorry Grave digger Bengals in a

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Speaker 1: big spot. Lock it up? Yeah, not board anymore, not

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Speaker 1: for it anymore. They'll go into the front of the line.

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Speaker 1: You know, greg mentioned that you know he would be

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Speaker 1: he'd accept the idea that the Westley brothers come after

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Speaker 1: him in his little Han solo outfit. Uh if, because

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Speaker 1: he picked the Titans. But I don't think they'd even

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Speaker 1: get to Gregor's. They'd start in fighting and probably punching

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Speaker 1: each other out and pulling each other's hair. This has

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Speaker 1: been this is succeeded beyond even my wildest imagination. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this bit of having the West Brothers on every week,

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Speaker 1: because it's now just h degenerated into just a settling

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Speaker 1: of scores every week between the brothers. The the actual

445
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Speaker 1: picking of the games is set and dary like, even

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Speaker 1: in the order in which they discuss certain topics when

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Speaker 1: they come on the show. It's it's just a it's

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Speaker 1: civil war and here we are sitting in the Roman

449
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Speaker 1: colisee and watching them do battle beneath us. It's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty great, it's amazing. And yes, the picks at points

451
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Speaker 1: seem to just be made to settle scores with each other.

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Speaker 1: They didn't seem to care whether they got it right

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Speaker 1: or or not at all. All right, So there is

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Speaker 1: the early game West of his two point. Oh, if

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Speaker 1: you want to call it that. Before we move on

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Speaker 1: to the great Bills Chiefs game and get Tim Graham

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Speaker 1: on the line, might as well do it. I mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: Ricky opened up the Kicker Club. You want to hear

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Speaker 1: some kicker power rankings remaining kickers again. I don't want

460
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Speaker 1: to be the guy that's dwelling too much on kickers,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna matter. Step aside, step behind the velvet Ropes.

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Speaker 1: Number eight is big bone Randy. I don't trust him

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Speaker 1: in a big spot. Uh. He's not a bad he's

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Speaker 1: hung around. But do you trust Randy Bullock in a

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Speaker 1: big spot? Like and I know he's slimmed down, but

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Speaker 1: he those bones are still big underneath. He's less spefy,

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Speaker 1: he's definitely left less spefy, but the name sticks. He's

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Speaker 1: a little more like you know, thick Now he's t

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Speaker 1: h I c c Yes. Seven Mason Crosby. There, we've

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Speaker 1: seen enough struggles to know that he could have a

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Speaker 1: bad day. I mean it's certainly within the range of outcomes.

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Speaker 1: They're very loyal to Mason. Somehow he's made it through

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Speaker 1: another season. But watch out. Six Ryan suck Up bucking ears.

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Speaker 1: You guys stunned by that one. It's a strong it's

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Speaker 1: a strong kicker field. If suck Up is six because

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Speaker 1: he's a good kicker. Is Mason Crosby his hair his

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Speaker 1: hair alone, I think puts the number eighty. It is,

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Speaker 1: by the way, a very strong field. Number five Matt Gay,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams Bowler. Yeah, Pro Bowl are very good kicker,

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Speaker 1: but almost the victim of just being in a really

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Speaker 1: good company here. Number four I'm a big fan. As

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Speaker 1: I said of this kid, Evan McPherson, I think he's

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Speaker 1: got um ice in his veins. He's scared to nothing

484
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Speaker 1: and he's really thrived. Uh this season. Eight thirty three

485
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Speaker 1: does not miss from in close. He's kind of automatic.

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Speaker 1: I really like him. Number three Tyler Bass Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? No complaints? I mean

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Speaker 1: with Evan McPherson. When you find one of those guys

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Speaker 1: you got him for a decade plus, it changes your

490
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Speaker 1: friends called cold weather guy. You know, I'd have to

491
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Speaker 1: I'd have to really examine the stats here, but I

492
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Speaker 1: feel like the championship might have Ryan suck up a

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Speaker 1: little underrated compared to some of these guys. Well, he

494
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Speaker 1: wasn't quite tested in the last year's he did, he

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Speaker 1: got the job done, certainly. I like Robbie Gold I

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Speaker 1: got him at number two. Remember what our friends said

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Speaker 1: in his invaluable analysis of last week's wild Card game,

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Speaker 1: Jay Field and number one, gimme Harrison. If I have

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Speaker 1: to pick one guy, gimme Harrison. Not just because or

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Speaker 1: mostly because my son's name is Harrison, but that is

501
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Speaker 1: a good kicker in Kansas City who handles the elements

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Speaker 1: that is kicked in big spots and is a guy

503
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Speaker 1: that you can count on. Where do you got you

504
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Speaker 1: don't like it. I'm just saying Matt Gay is a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler this year. You know, I don't know. It's

506
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Speaker 1: tough to separate these guys. Gold feels a little high.

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Speaker 1: Weren't they annoyed about Gold earlier in the season. He

508
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Speaker 1: had some some moments maybe early in the year, but

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Speaker 1: he's he's been brilliant. Put it this way, He's he's

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Speaker 1: postseason guy. I don't think he's ever missed the postseason

511
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Speaker 1: field goal and he hasn't, which they kept trying to

512
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Speaker 1: jink him with in the whole that whole broadcast scenario.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you guys, you guys have to leave the

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Speaker 1: club now unless you're boosted. Are you guys boosted? Yes, Okay,

515
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Speaker 1: get loose in the club. It gets crazy in here,

516
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Speaker 1: like you would be stunt. It's like when the when

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Speaker 1: you hear about like the kids at m I t

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Speaker 1: um all the math kids, the whiz kids all end

519
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Speaker 1: up in the same place and it's it's basically just

520
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Speaker 1: like Caligula behind the scenes. That's the right. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I mean I'm saying, it's something that's

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Speaker 1: kept under the radar a little bit. People think, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the math nerds, they don't know how to get down,

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Speaker 1: they go nuts. But when everyone around you was a

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Speaker 1: math nerd, like, there are no nerds and suddenly you're

526
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: all extremely smart, powerful, have shared values, and you just like,

527
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: let's explore other parts of our experience and being. I

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Speaker 1: would ask you this, damn like, what is um like

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Speaker 1: or is it just kickers in the club and us

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Speaker 1: are there? Is there a tangible weight staff of high value.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're asking. I know exactly what you're asking.

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Speaker 1: And we've already had the Princess lay discussion today. We

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Speaker 1: don't need to get in any further. But just playing

534
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Speaker 1: beer and drinks or does someone do it for me?

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Speaker 1: Is that not a fair question about a place that

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Speaker 1: serves a club? What do you want? I would want

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Speaker 1: I would want a like a robust um uh wait

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Speaker 1: stuff to be you know, helping the experience along. He

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Speaker 1: wants a lot of young men dressed as Harrison Ford

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Speaker 1: serving him drinks. Well, we've got you, Greg, so that

541
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Speaker 1: they might confuse you for them. But it's fine, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break and then welcome in Tim Graham.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. As promised, it's time to talk Bills, Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the game of the week, and we're bringing in the

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Speaker 1: big guns here, uh from the athletic It is the

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Speaker 1: great Tim Graham who covers the Bills and Tim, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast. And I am sure

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Speaker 1: you are quite excited as well as someone who covers

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Speaker 1: the sport. You're at the center of the football universe

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Speaker 1: this week. The big guns, he says, I forgot I

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Speaker 1: forgot my ammo. So we'll see what happens here. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. That was a hell of an introduction and uh,

553
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: quite absurd, but well we do. We do our best.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like setting the table, and

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00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't want to build the expectations.

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Speaker 1: And now you even making me feel like it might

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Speaker 1: be a letdown. But we're just gonna power through it

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Speaker 1: and see what happens. You know, you need a big

559
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Speaker 1: clock around your neck because you're like a hype man

560
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Speaker 1: to go here. All right, I'm ready to deliver some

561
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Speaker 1: some knowledge and and takes. All right, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Let's start this way because, um, obviously, last year, when

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Speaker 1: the Bills kind of rose and and became this superpower,

564
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: sometimes it seemed easy for this team. This year there

565
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: was more winding the road to get where they are now.

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Speaker 1: And then, of course the masterpiece that was last Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: How surprised were you that that version of the Bills

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Speaker 1: showed up because I know during the tail end of

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Speaker 1: the regular season and you started to see the offense

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Speaker 1: especially really coming out of its shell. But to see

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Speaker 1: the dominance at that level, how much did it surprise you? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you're surprised anytime you see perfection, especially against

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Speaker 1: the Bill Belichick coach team. This is the playoffs. This

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Speaker 1: isn't the Jets in the regular season finale or the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons the week before that. So too, take an

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Speaker 1: opponent's best punch, um, whatever Bill Belichick had at his

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Speaker 1: disposal he was using in that game, and the Bills

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Speaker 1: didn't blink. It was, as you mentioned, all the great

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Speaker 1: stats and historical and never been done before in the

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Speaker 1: in the NFL regular season or playoffs for them to

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Speaker 1: have those seven drive, seven touchdowns, no punts, no kicks,

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Speaker 1: no turnovers, the whole thing. Josh Allen's stat line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a surprise, but to see the Bills command the

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Speaker 1: Patriots in general was not a surprise. They've just done

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Speaker 1: it a few weeks or earlier. Uh. They're now on

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Speaker 1: a five game win streak, with two of those victories

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Speaker 1: over the Patriots, one in Foxboro. Then of course just

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Speaker 1: last week. But you mentioned that that winding road, and

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Speaker 1: you have to go back to October ten when they

590
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Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs for the well, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say the first time because that's that's me indicating that

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it a second time, and

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Speaker 1: we can get to that. But um, when they beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the regular season at Darrowhead Stadium, that

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Speaker 1: was the last time the Bills had beaten a meaningful

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Speaker 1: opponent until the second game against the Patriots. They were

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Speaker 1: in against Uh, a series of backup quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence beat him. Uh. They couldn't win consecutive games. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there was a stretch there in November and into December,

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Speaker 1: even when you couldn't really envisioned the Bills winning the

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Speaker 1: four games necessary to hoist that Lombardi Trophy because it

602
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Speaker 1: was clear they weren't going to get the first round

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Speaker 1: by and you were just wondering if they could win

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Speaker 1: two in a row during the regular season, and they've

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Speaker 1: They've flipped the switch at the right time. And that's

606
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Speaker 1: not to say that they looked perfect in beating teams

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Speaker 1: like Carolina, the Jets, and the Falcons, you know, heading

608
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Speaker 1: into the playoffs, they didn't. They even had some some

609
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Speaker 1: struggles there. Matt Ryan looked really good against the Bills

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Speaker 1: and bad weather um in the second to last game.

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Speaker 1: But then to do what they did against the Patriots again,

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Speaker 1: like I said, that's a surprise and it really makes

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Speaker 1: you think that this is the This looks like the

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Speaker 1: Bills team that we did see in Arrowhead Stadium in October.

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Speaker 1: Do you you know one one thing that's happened for

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is the offensive line really in the last you know,

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Speaker 1: over these couple of months have jailed so well. I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering how that's happened in your in your opinion, I know,

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Speaker 1: I saw Dion Dawkins had a I thought a great quote.

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Speaker 1: He basically said, the world dropped us, the world dropped

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Speaker 1: us on our head, and it was only us that

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Speaker 1: could pick us up, no disrespect, but f everybody. I

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Speaker 1: mean I I get a little bit of edge. I

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of like, maybe they're annoyed how

625
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: they were perceived. I mean, what's happened on that phone?

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Speaker 1: Because the run game is taking off too. They have

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Speaker 1: balanced and I think that's such a big turning point

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Speaker 1: for them because that was a weakness a couple of

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Speaker 1: months ago they had and I wish I had it

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Speaker 1: here handy, but the line that they currently have that

631
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Speaker 1: they've gone with for the past few games zero sacks

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Speaker 1: allowed by the way, four straight games. But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: that long ago that it has was changing on a

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00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: weekly or other weekly basis because of COVID, because of injuries. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And this iteration of the offensive line I think is

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Speaker 1: the nine or maybe might be the eleventh. Actually I've

637
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: lost track, but the you know that old football adage

638
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: about chemistry on the offensive line and you need continuity

639
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: and all those things. And granted, these guys were together

640
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: all season, and they were the same unit pretty much

641
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: last season in terms of the group of players. I'm

642
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: not talking about necessarily where they were starting along that

643
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: offensive line, but these guys have been together practicing and

644
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: in meeting rooms together for for a couple of years.

645
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was again we're talking I'll use the

646
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: word surprise on that because it looked like they were

647
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: falling apart. And this goes back to a time when

648
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: the Bills were struggling the times I was just mentioning

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: when this line was being slapped together and it looked

650
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: like one more brick crumbling from a really promising team

651
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: that was favored to win the Super Bowl at one

652
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: point during the season, and now all of a sudden

653
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: was trying to find its way behind a group of

654
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: guys who were sustaining serious injuries or not available. And

655
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates, uh, the guard who was you know, he's

656
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: he's also the backup at center really wasn't used throughout

657
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: the season. And we haven't gotten a really good reason

658
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: why that is because he's played really well since coming in.

659
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Um and uh and that's just been here in the

660
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: last month or so. But Dion Dawkins, of course, UH

661
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle who has been playing really well. UM.

662
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris, the veteran center. It's you know, it's been

663
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: really impressive to watch, uh, this offensive line come together

664
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: and kind of out of nowhere. You could not have

665
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: seen that coming. Uh, with all the different versions of

666
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: this starting lineup that we're that we're being assembled, and

667
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they just had one and

668
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: it worked, and here we are, all right. It's like

669
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Doc Dawkins lost all that weight with COVID and so

670
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: it took him a while to get back into form.

671
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: But you mentioned the interior line that's so huge this

672
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: week because that's how the Chief's defense. To me, roles

673
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: is Chris Jones and Jarren Read and if they can,

674
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: if they can do their job against those two guys,

675
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine the Chiefs getting a lot of stuffs.

676
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, though, as someone who's been

677
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: covering this Buffalo sports scene for a long time, I

678
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: feel like you were there at least twenty years ago.

679
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I am I wrong about that. I moved to Buffalo

680
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: in January of two thousand. My first day at the

681
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo News was the Monday after the Music City Miracle.

682
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: Everyone was in a fine mood, and then I went

683
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: seventeen years without covering a playoff game, although I did

684
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: get to cover the National Hockey League for seven of

685
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: those years, and the Sabers had some good runs, so

686
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: at least I I didn't get to experience some joy

687
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, you were on that list of like

688
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: the good beat writers to to track on the RSS

689
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: feeds for Rhoda World back in two thousand three, two

690
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: thousand and four. So yeah, I mean it's big time

691
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: to get there. It's like, hey, these are the good ones. Uh.

692
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, to someone who's been there that long and

693
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: like knows this sports culture, I guess I'm curious you've

694
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: seen this team up close what it means to the city,

695
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: and especially this version of of the team, the one

696
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: season Buffalo Bills, Like how do you how do you

697
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: think they're ready for this moment? Because I have a

698
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: hard time picking this game And one of the dumbest

699
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: reasons possible is what's convincing me that the Bills could

700
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: do this, which is just that it like feels it's

701
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: their time, like they've been together for a while there

702
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: they seem extremely confident they got back to this point.

703
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: What is your feel uh? And what is the feeling

704
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: also of the city? Uh? Leading into this rematch with

705
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: the and as a follow up to that, Who's better

706
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Dominic kashak Alright, okay, so I'll get

707
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: a little philosophical with my answer, uh in that I

708
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: won't make any proclamations about the Bill's greatness right now.

709
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: But in fact, and I've used this adage before, this

710
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: anecdote before, with her permission, because we were having a

711
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: conversation shortly after Brandon being the general manager was hired,

712
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: and also uh with uh with Sean McDermott's father right

713
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: after he was hired. So Brandon Bean's mother asked me

714
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: after I got done interviewing her for a profile about

715
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: her son, She said, do you think he do you

716
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: think he'll be successful? And you know, what do you

717
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: say to mom? Right? Um, But I'm trying to be

718
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, she's gonna be following the coverage of her son.

719
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess I'll go ahead and make it known. What

720
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: what type of practical thinker I am? I said, I

721
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: told Mrs Bean, I don't know, but when you look

722
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: back on this, at some point, the Bills are going

723
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: to become winners law of average, whether even if it's

724
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: a hundred years from now, some at some point, the Bills,

725
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: maybe like the Chicago Cubs, will win something. Um, but

726
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: whenever that time is, we will have looked back on

727
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: it and said, this is what it's supposed to look like.

728
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: This is what it was supposed to look like. That

729
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: a coach in general manager came in at the same

730
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: time with the same vision. It wasn't somebody's leftover coaching candidate.

731
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't some lame duck general manager. Similar to what

732
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: we're seeing with the New York Giants and what they've

733
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: keep continue to go through or in Chicago. Uh this,

734
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: I said, this is what it will look like. I

735
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: think that when you look at a window being open,

736
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say a dynasty, but a window

737
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: being open for a team's success a few years ago,

738
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: we will look back on it and say, well, it

739
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: was pretty obvious what we saw there. What the what

740
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: the Bills were doing to the Patriots at that time.

741
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that Tom Brady left the division. The

742
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Bills were on an ascendancy, and here they are. It

743
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: does feel like it is their time. Um, but the

744
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: fans are are more cynical than that. They've been sneaked

745
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: bit a bunch of times. And I'll use this, uh,

746
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: this example for you. I need to double check so.

747
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Heading into the it was the Saints game on Thanksgiving.

748
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: UM I do some work for the local CBS affiliate

749
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, and they do for their weekly pregame

750
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: show a pole and the poll heading into that game

751
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: was what do you think is ahead for the Bills?

752
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: There were four options. Number one was first round by

753
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Number two was when the a f

754
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: C East without the first round by. Number three was

755
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: wild card team. Number four was the playoffs. The most

756
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: votes at or so was missed the playoffs. Number that

757
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: job I'm bringing you this up, but when you hit

758
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: me in the mentions, Josh Allen's too low. Number Number

759
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: two was wild card. So a majority of the fans

760
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: were saying we were not winning the division, and most

761
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: of those people said we're not gonna make the playoffs

762
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: at all. Well, that's that's that's that's what's built into

763
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: the d n A here, that's what's in this fan base.

764
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: They had, They had hit a rough patch. Josh Allen

765
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: wasn't playing particularly well or when he was winning games,

766
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: they weren't complete sixty minute games. Uh, And the fans

767
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: were just like, well, there it goes. Patriots are good again.

768
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do. There's nothing we can do

769
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: here come the Patriots. Um, we don't deserve nice things. Uh.

770
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: That being said, and I know I'm on a long

771
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: winded response here, I do want to say that just

772
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: because you went seventeen or eighteen years without the playoffs,

773
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: so how many years that you've been underneath the thumb

774
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, that suffering does not

775
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: mean you've earned your window or that it's And I

776
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: think that there is a segment of the Bills fans

777
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: that think, Okay, now is our time. We deserve this. No,

778
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: you don't deserve anything. Um, this could be a clawed

779
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: out division for some time. And in the Patriots shown

780
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: they have some fight. There are a double digit win

781
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: team and you know who knows what happens with all

782
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the Jets in But anyways, Uh, you aren't owed anything

783
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But this team is damn good. And

784
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I think that you do look back on times like

785
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: this and say this is what it's this is what

786
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. That's a great response there.

787
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: And this is a podcast that has a Jet span

788
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: on it and a Browns fan, and I think there

789
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: is scar tissue with certain fan bases. So I can

790
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: give you there you go. You get the scar tissue

791
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: that comes with years and decades of failure here. And

792
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I think Bills fans, and as someone who took Sam

793
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Donald before Josh Allen came off the board, you kind

794
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: of say, but that's the guy, just like the fans

795
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati who might be a little different. Which is funny.

796
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: The way you're there doesn't seem to be that same

797
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: level of cynicism with Joe Burrow. They're all in. But

798
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe it changes this year for Bills fans when they

799
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: see what this guy does. Maybe he drops a bomb

800
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs this weekend. We shall see.

801
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: I thought, listen, Tim, I thought the set up maybe

802
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: a little grandiose, but then you delivered on multiple levels

803
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: and including that philosophical closer. So that's what is that

804
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: an emmy in your background? I mean that's a I

805
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: think that's like a it's a lifetime achievement award. This

806
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: is my hat holder. It's a fantasy football trophy. It

807
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: is about about I don't know if you're here. This

808
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: is steel that looks nice. That's something. No, it is

809
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: set that it is there because it takes up a

810
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: good bit of space. For when I do things like this,

811
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: it seems like I have something impressive back there. It

812
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: almost looks like something like a humanitarian award. So I

813
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: would say fantasy, just like, oh yeah, that was when

814
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: I work with Mother Teresa and the alums in the

815
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: hands of you know whatever, greater good I don't know, alright,

816
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, people know that. Thank you Tim Graham. He

817
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: has Dominic ash it by a lot. Josh Allen's going

818
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: to have to do what he's been doing for seven

819
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: or eight more years before Dominic conversation with Dominic Ashing. Mark,

820
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: that's a goaltender in the NHL. Let's say thank you.

821
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I would also I would I'd say I appreciate that

822
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that information. I would also note that if you're not

823
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: following um Tim Graham on Twitter, he is a very

824
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: enjoyable follower because I understand that some of these bills

825
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: fans and beyond are annoying. He is not afraid to

826
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: drop a nuclear bomb on their concepts and ideas at

827
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: any time of the day. It's quite a read. He

828
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: suffers no fools. People ask me why I do it?

829
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: They say, why do you waste your time, and I say,

830
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: because I enjoy it very good. All Right, there you go,

831
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Kim Grant, thank you, buddy. Best of the luck, rest

832
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: of the way. Maybe we'll see at the super Bowl.

833
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: All right. So that's the Bill side of this story.

834
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: And it's interesting before we kind of transition to the

835
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Chief side of this game. Uh, and thank you to

836
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: Tim Graham, he was excellent. Uh, is that there's so

837
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: much talk about the Bengals and we're guilty of this

838
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, as well as

839
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: this like fun story about this underdog franchise that here

840
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: are the Bills in that same spot and they have

841
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: a chance now to do something special. Uh. If you're

842
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: old enough, you remember when they went to four straight

843
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and lost them all in the early nineties

844
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: and it's been pretty much a desert since. So this

845
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen situation now and the rising of this great

846
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: team building and something we've definitely hit on on this

847
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: podcast a lot, the importance of having that functional front

848
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: office coach combo and just getting on the same page

849
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 1: together on the ground floor all that stuff. Now here

850
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: come the Chief Chives and Mark. The Chiefs are an

851
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: interesting team obviously because as much as we pumped up

852
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: and right rightfully so that brilliant effort offensively by Buffalo

853
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: when they went seven for seven against Bill Belichick with

854
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. The Chiefs scored six consecutive touchdowns a day

855
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: later against the Steelers, which are you know, not not

856
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: a great defense, but a pretty good defense with some

857
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: big players. So it's a great matchup of two offensively

858
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: gifted teams. Yeah, I mean, this is why this round

859
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: of play of the playoffs tickles the loins, because it's

860
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: just like, this is an insane There had to be

861
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: a better way to put that. Well, there probably was.

862
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: This is an insane matchup where it's just like I

863
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: just want to sit down and like let it unfold

864
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: over me because you know, you are looking at the

865
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: heights and we spent you know, the Chiefs were frustrating

866
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: if the Bills were the Chiefs have been a frustrating

867
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: team to discuss all year because the question, I mean,

868
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: on our television show on Friday week after we get

869
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: seem to be do we believe in his team? Will

870
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: they ever break out of their funk? Who are they are?

871
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Have they hit the end of the road? Is it

872
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: just not their year. And then suddenly, now like the Bills,

873
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: they look extremely explosive. And a whole huge thing was

874
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: the turnovers with Mahomes. It was like, is this guy

875
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: has he been figured out? Have the Chiefs figured out? Well,

876
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: it's all seems like a little bit like nonsense to me.

877
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: He did have twenty two turnover worthy plays. That said

878
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: they have eight turnovers since Week nine. That narrative, now

879
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: they had two of those came against Pittsburgh, so I

880
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: get that. But they found a way out of that

881
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: darkness real quick and real fast. Pittsburgh just did it

882
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: was their last gasp. Everything we said had to happen.

883
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: T J. Watt gets a touchdown, it happened. That was

884
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: real nice for all of us analysts. But then the

885
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs dropped a massive, I mean just a dark cloud

886
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: over Pittsburgh. They ended them, And I know that's a

887
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: lesser opponent, but I suddenly deeply trust and I really

888
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: love the emergence of Jerick McKinnon, who you know, out

889
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: of football for so long, came back and looked explosive

890
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: last week. There was a twenty yard uh screen to

891
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: him early on in that game that I thought he

892
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: got on my radar right away. They used the screen

893
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: game really well against Pittsburgh, and I wonder how they'll

894
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: attack this defense. There is no Aus White. I think

895
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: this could be the game where that cost Buffalo quite

896
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: a bit. We'll even better without him, which is very

897
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: strange because White is one of the best corners in

898
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: the league. But and that's a credit to the Bill's

899
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: defense that things not missed a beat. But things are

900
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: different now with Tyree Cole, so I you know, for me,

901
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: it's just like, let's just hang on and see what

902
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: happens here, right. I don't trust either defense to get

903
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: a ton of stops. I think the game will be

904
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: in the thirties. If it's not, I think it'll just

905
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: be because the possessions take too long. You know, when

906
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: we think about the Chiefs being more patient this year,

907
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: and they they're really diverse. Both offenses are diverse now.

908
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: They both can run. I think the Chiefs can run

909
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: block really well, and you saw that with Derrick McKinnon.

910
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Will probably see Edwards a layer back. I think the

911
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Bills have gotten better that way too. Uh. It's been

912
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: to combat these defenses which are typified I Buffalo, that

913
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: are just trying to prevent big plays. They have those

914
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: two safeties back there. That's why they've survived without White,

915
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, Hide and Poyer. I think they're they're starting

916
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: to get kind of their national shine now. I think

917
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Payer got all Pro. And those are the guys that

918
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: are gonna try to prevent Tyreek Hill from getting over

919
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: the top. Hill look totally healthy, he's back, he's fine.

920
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Or prevent Travis Kelsey from getting all those yards after

921
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: the catch. They did a pretty good job of that

922
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: in the first matchup. I know a lot of things

923
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: have changed, but they did a good job about preventing

924
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: big plays for the most part. And uh, it's just

925
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: like they've they are built in some ways to play

926
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: this Chiefs team. You know this, this this matchup is

927
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: not surprising. It's just a week early. I kind of

928
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: think the winner of this game wins the Super Bowl

929
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: in general, or at least is my favorite to win

930
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Well, I think would be the best pick.

931
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: And and and it's almost like they wrote it too much.

932
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: For like, these are the a f C teams that

933
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: just got rid of the old a f C powers

934
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: of yesteryear. It's like bye ben by Patriots, we just

935
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: dropped forty burgers. Let's make it as obvious as possible that,

936
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: like we are the fire Show, and yeah, I don't

937
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: care what happened like before December. Like Mahomes and Island

938
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: are playing their best right now, and that to me

939
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: is almost all that matters in the playoffs. Yeah, I

940
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: throw out the Week five results entirely because it doesn't

941
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: teach me anything, because I know as good as Kansas

942
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: City's defense has been in stretches this season, they're just

943
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: like many other defenses. You might even argue all defenses

944
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, where they can be figured

945
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: out and scored upon repeatedly. It was a Daniel Sorenson game.

946
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: He had a nightmare in that in that matchup, and

947
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: he's not being used much anyway right the So you

948
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: know the Bills, especially where they are they're at right now,

949
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: they can score thirty eight points on you. And now

950
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: you look at Kansas City, they were in that weird

951
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: funk period during that stretch of the season. It lasted

952
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: longer than any of us, any of us imagined. Uh

953
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: So I don't look at the game and be like,

954
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: well they figured out Patrick Mahomes and company. Once they

955
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: can do it again. No, I think the Bills are

956
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: gonna really struggle to contain Mahomes and all the weapons

957
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: he has. So it does feel like I feel like

958
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be cheated. Uh. Boys, if this game is

959
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: anything other than thirty five, this is this is the

960
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: I know what Tim said was great. Uh, you don't

961
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: deserve anything. Nothing is is given to you. But we

962
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: the fans, especially after all that malarkey we had to

963
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: watch last weekend, deserve fifty two to bring it. Give

964
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: us the juice, give us the points, Let's fly. And

965
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: I also love Hide and Poyer too. I remember that

966
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: press conference after the first Patriots game and they were

967
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: so annoyed with the media trying to frame a narrative

968
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: their season away and and the way they kind of

969
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: as a as a tandem helped to find that defense

970
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: and the attitude and the spirit of the Bills defense.

971
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I love this Bills team and like sometimes on Twitter,

972
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: people like, why are you like positive about the Bills

973
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: all the time. You're a Jets fan because Jets fans

974
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: and Bills fans have a kinship in that division. I'm

975
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: okay with the Bills rising here that that would be

976
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: a really nice story to see them get to l A.

977
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I look at this team and

978
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: when I when I say that it's like time, to me,

979
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not time like they've waited seventeen years

980
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: so they deserve anything. It's time that it's all coming

981
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: together perfectly right now. This is the third straight year

982
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. Alan's had his downs in the playoffs.

983
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: I think he's more mature now. It's fourth out of

984
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: five year from McDermott. They've had different defenses ups and

985
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: downs over the last couple of years. So how are

986
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: you combining the great Alan play with your great Bills defense?

987
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Right now? It's not great, but it's about as good

988
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: as we as we have in the NFL. It's one

989
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: of the better groups. It's certainly better than the group

990
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: that got uh crushed by the Chiefs a year ago.

991
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: And then you have Alan running the ball, and that

992
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: to me is like the X factor. He is number

993
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: one by far now in rushing value on the season.

994
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: According to QBR, he leads the league in yards per carry.

995
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: He almost led all quarterbacks in rushing yards, and that

996
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: was almost all after that Bucks game. Like design runs.

997
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: He's running scrambles against man coverage with the Chiefs off

998
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: and have and he took advantage in the first time

999
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: he's running. It's time and they've been knocking on this

1000
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: door for years. And that's why I'm locking up the

1001
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs on the road. Very very spicy wit, you're locking

1002
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: up the Chiefs on the road. Well, I've messed it up. No.

1003
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: I had the best set up the eighteen yard field

1004
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: goal to go to the Super Bowl, and then I

1005
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: kicked it into the pass of the center. Yeah, you

1006
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: have the Bills. Okay, well you you blew that and

1007
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: there's no coming back. Um, I believe I had. I

1008
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: had the Packers over the Chiefs in the Super Bowl

1009
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: back in September. So I can't turn back now. I

1010
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 1: can't now pick against the Chiefs so at home. God,

1011
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: their pedigree is so great. Um, this again, this is

1012
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: going to be a cop out, because it's gonna be

1013
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I even believe it, but I

1014
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: will say Chiefs forty one thirty eight Heartbreak City in Buffalo.

1015
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: But that is not there's no strong conviction there. This

1016
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: is absolutely a coin flip game. How about you, Mark?

1017
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: I I admire Gregg for locking either team because about

1018
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: how he closed that though, well I know that was

1019
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: that was a bit of a box job, but I

1020
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: like the heart and fire behind it. I get I've

1021
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: got this lock trophy here. I'm bringing it in game.

1022
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: You gotta try to bring it home. My reign is

1023
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: officially over. I'll bring it into the office this week.

1024
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: It can no longer, you know, be in my background

1025
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: about ten weeks ago, it's been city. It's waiting. I

1026
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: get concerned when I get it because part of me

1027
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: is just thinks the same thing thirty five, thirty two,

1028
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: thirty five. It's when when everyone is saying that it's

1029
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: gonna go totally south and it's not gonna be the case.

1030
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for that. I wanted to be that,

1031
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: but I keep seeing in my head although it's probably

1032
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: totally different than the pick I said on Tuesday to

1033
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: uh these other guys, but I'm going thirty eight Um

1034
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: to twenty Buffalo in a game where has a lot

1035
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: of problems, but you're not locking them up there. You

1036
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: have the winning by eighteen. I'm not pick a different team.

1037
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: You have a bigger score than an eighteen. You're picking

1038
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: this to be an eighteen point difference, and yet there

1039
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: might be another place on NFL media where you have

1040
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: the other team winning. No, No, I picked the Bills

1041
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: in that one too. Okay, well that's you're not locking

1042
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: it up. I'm not locking up because I'm not touching

1043
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: this game. This is not a I don't need. I'm

1044
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: still alive in the lock thing, and I don't like

1045
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: then your score just logically it would be closer than eight.

1046
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: That's a score of conviction. Greg, Can I do my

1047
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: own Am I allowed to make my own choice or

1048
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: much to critique every single thing that I do when

1049
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: it comes to locks? Who cares? You're like eight eight

1050
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: games behind you go? You go deal with your own luck.

1051
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. I'm telling you back to

1052
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: back trophies, you know. I just that this is not

1053
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: going to be close. This is not going to be closed.

1054
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: The Bills are gonna drop, They're gonna they're gonna do

1055
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: something to the Chiefs early on. The changes the tone

1056
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: of this game. There may be injuries. I don't know

1057
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: what it will be, but I don't think this will

1058
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: be close at all. I think it's gonna be a

1059
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: real rough ending of the season. Too for Kansas City

1060
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: for this game to get away from the Chiefs quickly.

1061
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: It's going to be another one of those killer turnovers.

1062
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: And then in in Marriage with the Bills picking up

1063
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: right where they left up. I get a little nervous

1064
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: if I'm a Bills fan that you were so perfect

1065
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: last week that following up something like that, are you

1066
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna still be? I mean, that's gonna be too many people.

1067
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: The Bills are kind of the trendy pick this week.

1068
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: The line has moved toward them. It's only one and

1069
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: a half. They're they're they're the pretty common pick out there.

1070
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: But that was true the forty Niners last week. Sometimes

1071
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: the public nails it. All right, let's uh take a

1072
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: break and then hit the NFC. All right, let's move

1073
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: to the NFC side of things, starting with Saturday night

1074
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: the Game five on Fox. I guess that means Troy

1075
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: Aikman gets this game, but who knows. It would be

1076
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of funny if Tony Romo got this game. You know,

1077
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: if somehow Troy Aikman gets banged again and it's we

1078
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: actually maybe they cut to a Troy cam and we

1079
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: see Trey Kman's head explode. I mean, I feel like

1080
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: that would be pretty good TV. People would like to

1081
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: be that game. The forty Niners, Oh Dog coming off

1082
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: that uh big win in the wild Card round over

1083
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, wasn't an upset. I don't think it was

1084
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: an upset. Maybe Vega said it was an upset, but

1085
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: they were the better team and they played like it.

1086
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: But now it jumps up a notch. The Green Bay

1087
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Packers thirteen and four, coming off thereby undefeated at home. Greg,

1088
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: it's been, uh, it's been talked about incessant because that's

1089
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: how it works when the team's on buys. Some of

1090
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: the storylines just stay where they are. That the Packers

1091
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: are getting a healthy especially along their offensive line. I'll

1092
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: start you off this way, Greggy, do you have any

1093
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: concerns like they went through the entire season, had a

1094
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: dominant regular season with the line they had, and now

1095
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna introduce all these pieces over make three fifths

1096
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: of the line, that they might have some hiccups offensively

1097
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: because the line hasn't played together and missed a lot

1098
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: of time. I'm not worried about that because Rogers manages

1099
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: his line so well. If Box is healthy enough to play,

1100
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: he's a huge upgrade. Josh Wells. You know we've seen

1101
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: him at center. He's been good. They did play about

1102
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: a half together in Week eighteen against the lines. I'm

1103
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: more concerned that they're playing a team in the forty

1104
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: Niners that have just one two playoff games, and we

1105
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: always get into disgusting this time of year, like is

1106
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: it better to be the team on the roll or

1107
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: or you have the rest. It's not so much that

1108
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: the Packers rested. It's that the last two weeks that

1109
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: the forty Niners pulled off in the way they did

1110
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: it in Los Angeles in Dallas, two playoff teams, two

1111
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: very good offensive lines that they just destroyed there their front.

1112
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: One those games and you can say, Okay, the Packers

1113
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: have this great resume, Well have they had two weeks

1114
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: as good as the forty Niners just had? Like to me,

1115
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: the resume is a little irrelevant because the Packers haven't

1116
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: played a real opponent since November. This is the Rams.

1117
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: The last meetingful game was three weeks ago against Seawan Mannion.

1118
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: They were trailing at halftime against the Lions. I don't

1119
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: want to get too carried away that, like the Bears, game,

1120
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: and the Browns game and the Lions game. We're all

1121
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: close or whatever, but this wasn't a dominant team. And yes,

1122
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: they're getting team, you know, they're getting pieces back. But

1123
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I think just when you look at the matchup in

1124
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: terms of being able to get pressure on Rogers and

1125
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: then a team that can run the ball against the

1126
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: thirty ranked rush defense according to E p A like,

1127
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: that's a tough matchup and it's about a toss up.

1128
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really surprised at the six point spread. Six

1129
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: point spread. When I look at the Niners, I feel

1130
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: like you can tell who they're going to be um

1131
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: early on. It doesn't always carry out, but they are

1132
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. Early drives,

1133
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: dominant long you know, ten plus minute drives, and it

1134
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of shows you how the game might go in situations.

1135
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: I think that was very true against the Rams. It

1136
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: fell off a little bit against Dallas obviously, but that's

1137
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: a Shanahan special and I really want to see how

1138
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: the run game operates. You really can't take much from

1139
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: the first time these two played on the run game

1140
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: scenario because there was no Elijah Mitchell. They had traced

1141
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: sermon in there. I think they ran for about sixty

1142
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: seven yards. And this Packers defense has been good against

1143
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: the run the last two weeks, but in general they

1144
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: have not been And it's not just the run game,

1145
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: but what you have to do to guard the run

1146
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: game and protect against it. Because I look at that

1147
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: Travis Benjamin catch early against Dallas, which essentially looked to

1148
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: the defense like an overt running situation that turned into

1149
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: a big game through the air, and that's where I

1150
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: think Jimmy G is at his best. He he can

1151
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: he can deal him out, and I love him in

1152
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: that situation. I think this is I hate that it's

1153
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: the same narrative as a week ago because it's just

1154
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: who Jimmy G is. But it's gonna be four degrees

1155
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I think if you get into a

1156
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: situation where Jimmy J creates the mistakes, that could be

1157
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: the end factor here. I mean that happened with Dallas

1158
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: last week. As much as you don't want it to

1159
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: play the script, they were in control and that Jimmy

1160
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: G interception absolutely killed him. He has twenty five turnover

1161
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: worthy plays this year. Uh, He's He's had his problems

1162
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: and it's just like I, I, do you trust him

1163
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: enough to carry this? And it's right, that's that's that's

1164
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: it's that's that's the game. I mean, that's that that

1165
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be oversimplified on some level. But one side

1166
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: is gonna have Aaron Rodgers playing out of his mind

1167
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: and the other side's gonna have Jimmy g Who. It's

1168
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: not like if he makes mistakes, he's going to he

1169
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: does it, and now you're gonna put him on the

1170
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: road and very uh probably adverse conditions and going against

1171
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: the offense that's not gonna be stopped. I mean, this

1172
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers last seven games, one thousand passing yards,

1173
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions. He is completely locked in right now.

1174
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: I think he's not a guy I worry about with rust.

1175
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: So we took a week off that if anything, that's

1176
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: good because of that toe injury, which he said in

1177
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: practice that whole stretch you're talking about practically because of

1178
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: the toe. But I guess I don't worry about it. Oh,

1179
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yes, and then Davante Adams,

1180
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: we know what he's all about. We know that he's

1181
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: going to show up in this game. But here's the

1182
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: other guy to keep an eye on. Alan Lazard has

1183
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: turned into a real number two receiver. If you look

1184
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: at the last six weeks of the season, Uh, Davante

1185
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: Adams has six touchdowns. That's best in football. Number two

1186
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard five touchdowns. So your MVS looks like he's

1187
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: not going to be in this game. But Rogers is

1188
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: going to have his pick of weapons. He's got the

1189
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: great backfield tandem behind him, He's got the improved sucking

1190
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: up front with back tr back. Are you kidding me?

1191
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, that's a huge upgrade. And yeah, I

1192
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: don't think six seems high. But I think this is

1193
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a win for the Packers and I'm gonna

1194
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: ride with them. I'm locking them up. Well, that forces me.

1195
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I think it's obviously a logical pick. It forces me

1196
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: because we're right at the end here, Like am I

1197
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: looking to tides in that has there's zero nobility in that.

1198
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to find out if I

1199
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: can win this thing. I'm gonna have to go reverse

1200
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: lock off with the Niners. I feel good about the

1201
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: team in general. Uh. To Greg's point, they've basically been

1202
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: in a postseason and they've delivered, and I think this

1203
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: is a real tough place for them. It could go

1204
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: real south. But I mean, they're not a team that

1205
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: just go gets goes gets blown out either. I mean,

1206
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna hang around and if something magical happens. Dan

1207
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: and Mark are one game apart. I love that. I

1208
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: feel I feel like confident, But at the same time,

1209
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. That said, if the if the Packers,

1210
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: after all this build up this year, went one and

1211
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: done and it's happened in the past, we all know

1212
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: that with the Packers, they're not Their playoff resume is

1213
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: spotty despite a lot of regular season dominance that would

1214
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: qualify as huge failure. I just I don't see it, Greg,

1215
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see this as a one and

1216
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: done team. I think especially Uh And I know you

1217
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: said that you think the winner of the Bills Chiefs

1218
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: team is the champion. I think until they're my favorite. Yeah,

1219
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: I think the Packers are my favorite to win this

1220
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: whole thing. Still, Um, I think it will be Packers

1221
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: against Chiefs or the Bills. Uh. First step is knocking

1222
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: off a very game UH San Francisco team, but a

1223
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: compromised one in the sense that Garoppolo was gonna make

1224
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: mistakes that Rogers won't. Yeah, Jimmy G is a tough

1225
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: thing to get over when you're thinking about this game.

1226
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: But I I I think when La Fleur saw this

1227
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: matchup that there are concerns. I mean that the run

1228
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: defense with Diebo Samuel in the background in the backfield rather,

1229
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: it's just so dynamic being able to tackle those guys

1230
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 1: in the open field the way they're lane. And then

1231
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: the boom box. Yeah, I don't know if you did

1232
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: you see the boom box highlights throughout the week of

1233
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: them walking out of the locker room with the boom

1234
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: box on the way in the field in Dallas. When

1235
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: I saw that boom box, I thought, oh, this team

1236
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: is going to Green Bay and the forecast may say

1237
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: it's twelve degrees maybe like feels like three at kickoff dry,

1238
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be raining there in Green Bay because

1239
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 1: there's no way they're not covering this six point much.

1240
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Sayahan runs the ball sixty of the time in

1241
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. With Jimmy G has this quarterback, this is

1242
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: the perfect day to go do that. Nick Bosa, he's

1243
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: out of that concussion protocol. I like their defensive front.

1244
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: I am worried that, you know, Rogers mitigates all that

1245
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: by you know, picking on the mismatches that Troy Aitman

1246
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: was talking about this week. Remember you know he he

1247
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of notice for saying, how come they're

1248
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: not just you know, Dak Prescott's gotta over come with

1249
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: the scheme, mask for it and just go to the mismatches.

1250
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Aaron Rodgers does better than anyone

1251
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: that's a concern with the secondary. But I at least

1252
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 1: think they cover those six points. And if you're gonna

1253
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: feel that good about covering and dropping some rein I

1254
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: picked them to win, just goes straight in there and

1255
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: blast them. Gregg picked, and I'm feeling good based on

1256
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: some certain standings this year. Well I'm not locking them up.

1257
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, my other my over my uh my picks

1258
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: against the spread have been great. I've been great. I mean,

1259
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe not great, but good, gonna be great? Good? Right,

1260
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Hey, speaking of um stuff going

1261
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: on at home, did you guys happen to see the

1262
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: new ad that hit Twitter of the Russell Wilson and Sira, Yeah?

1263
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, that's good. That's pretty I mean, I

1264
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: guess it's the only thing that's the pointing is that

1265
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: it didn't show up before Christmas, because that would have

1266
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: been a slam dunk gift for the s O. Yeah,

1267
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: well you could still. You know. The great thing about um,

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, Christmas ending, is that if you surprise her

1269
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: with that gift, now, it really says that you know,

1270
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: you're not just give me a gift at holiday type

1271
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: of guy. You're thinking about her all the time. What's

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01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: the name of the perfume, Ricky. I believe it's also

1273
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: like a candle. I think it's a candle on the

1274
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: shape is too. It's interwined bottles and you know, it

1275
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of passes other things. And then in the commercial

1276
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: it shows her hand and his hand pulling the bottles away.

1277
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: It would have been cool if they did it when

1278
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: his finger was all jacked up in October and he

1279
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: just had this nasty beat up like finger pointing in

1280
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. That would have been I mean, I

1281
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: would have liked it, but I but yeah, like, give

1282
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: give your significant other some perfume might be a candle,

1283
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: my look like a sex toy. And then just on

1284
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: re on repeat. Just play that Russell Wilson sultrarely looking

1285
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: at you know, why is Erica? Why am I asking

1286
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: too many questions? And you're answering me on Slack? Where

1287
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: are you not allowed to talk on mike anymore? What happened?

1288
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: Did Greg say something to you? Yeah? Actually I'm not

1289
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: allowed to No, No, I was looking. I was looking

1290
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: it up and wanted to get it to you as

1291
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: fast as I could. It's it's a fragrance duo's harmony

1292
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: and intense by Rand who's harmony and will probably Russell.

1293
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Then they called them apart. Yeah, it's it is. It's so,

1294
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: it's it's fragrance. You know, it's it's not a candle,

1295
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: but it is a product that looks like it can

1296
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: it can pass for other things. Yeah, definitely. I was

1297
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: confused at first watching what Hey, what we need to do, Ricky?

1298
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: We need to be all over this intense ad campaign.

1299
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: Uh the second it drops when they have the ponderous

1300
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: like Calvin Klein ad where Russ is intoning things in

1301
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: a grave manner and she's like crawling all over his

1302
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: nude body, or we need to be kind of all

1303
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: over this story. So just like keep an eye on

1304
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: the Okay, all r, let's take a break of beer

1305
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: right back, all right, before we get to the last game, Mark,

1306
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: I have some big news for you, your Giorgio Giorgio

1307
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: Gio Giorgi hit me. Does the name Jeff Franklin ring about? Uh?

1308
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Full House creator Jeff Franklin selling

1309
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills mansion for eight five million sight of the

1310
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: Sharon Tate murders. Well, okay, Um, I've walked up that

1311
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: street many times and I would just let you know that. Um,

1312
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: the last time it looked like that house. Um, the

1313
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: owner was Trent Resiner. That's that. That was the red

1314
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: sort of up on a hill right. Um it looks today.

1315
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Greek or just Mediterranean. Um,

1316
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: it is an eyesore. It looks so much to me, right,

1317
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: so you know it's place. They also have pictures all

1318
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: over the street. I'm saying. You know, if you see

1319
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: this man, call the authorities and it's a picture of Mark,

1320
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: you know it's little flyers everywhere. Well, tons of people

1321
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: walk up there. I wouldn't be alone. So twenty one

1322
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: thousand square feet, nine bedrooms, nineteen bathroom sits on three

1323
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: acres with a jet liner view of the city. Now, Mark,

1324
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: remember when, and that's not what it was then, it's

1325
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: what the place is now. It was nine is when

1326
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: it was raised and turned into this full house monstrosity.

1327
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: They actually had Bob Saggett from full House. The dad

1328
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: Danny Tanner passed away suddenly and they just had the

1329
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: uh post funeral gathering there. And now it's up for sale.

1330
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: And remember back in December where we gave each other

1331
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts, Mark, and I gave you the Baker Mayfield

1332
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: extension that had a lot of guaranteed money, and it

1333
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't the nicest gift, a lot of snark

1334
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: attached to it. I'm gonna take two. I'm buying this state.

1335
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: I'm raising this goodbye Gnarly mcmanchin from Hell. And then

1336
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to connect with all the greatest UH set

1337
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: designers in the business Los Angeles historians. I'm gonna restore

1338
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: it to the Sharon Tate Home with a Roman Plansky

1339
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: and then give it to you. How about that for

1340
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: a gift? Well, I like this more than the the

1341
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: previous gift. Um. I wonder about my own mental state

1342
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: where I had to uh suddenly start living inside a

1343
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: duplicate um of a Hollywood home that you know, where

1344
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,919
Speaker 1: one of the most grizzly events of human history occurred,

1345
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: and what and also while I was living there, what

1346
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: sort of copycat artists it might attract from you know,

1347
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: who knows where up in the canyons. I just a

1348
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: bit concerned. But I would take on the adventure and

1349
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: just say, let's go for but maybe not allow my

1350
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: children um to be on that ground. I don't know

1351
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: if that would, you know, just let's keep everyone safe.

1352
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: Is that okay? Y take it to leave a situation

1353
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: got right now? It sounds like he's asking for two houses,

1354
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: like you need to send for the family. That's a

1355
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: little much, I know. But if I own that house,

1356
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: then I'm we're flying. So all right, let's get to

1357
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: so that could be yours. Though if I can't make

1358
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: it happen, maybe you Ken Mark, I don't know what

1359
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: we're your salaries out these days, but it's not there.

1360
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: It's not I couldn't. I probably couldn't buy um an

1361
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: eight ft a patch of the lawn at this point.

1362
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: So all right, let's get into the final uh NFC game.

1363
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: It involves the defending Super Bowl champions. So let's get

1364
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: into it. Uh. It is the Tampa Bay Bucks playing

1365
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: host to the Los Angeles Rams, and we were obviously

1366
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: if you listen to the show on Tuesday, you know

1367
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: we were at the game on Monday between the Rams

1368
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. And the Rams look great. They absolutely did.

1369
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: You could say they look better than the Bucks looked

1370
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. But it was almost like the Eagles

1371
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: cut both these teams in a way. If you really

1372
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: think about it, the Eagles and Cardinals were not playoff ready,

1373
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: so these two teams just took care of business against

1374
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: teams that were ready to go home. And now we

1375
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: see them against top flight competition. It feels like a

1376
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: Bucks game. But how do you guys see it? Greg

1377
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: will start with you, and this is the toughest game

1378
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: for me to separate the two. I think they're very similar.

1379
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: I think their defensive fronts are primed and ready to

1380
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: play their best that they've played all season, that they're

1381
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: peaking right now. Obviously, one side is Brady and the

1382
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: other as Stafford, and that's a mismatch. But if you

1383
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: just stack up pure talent, I think the Rams are

1384
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: are right there with them, and uh, for the Rams,

1385
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: it gotta feel like I'm not to get over the

1386
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: hill type of game because if you can win this,

1387
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: you get to the NFC Championship. You've got a long

1388
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: way to go. But there's been a lot building with

1389
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: this season and to have to come up against Tom Brady,

1390
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: who ripped your heart out with the best Rams team

1391
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: of all time in two thousand one, uh and who

1392
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: finished the job in ten in the Super Bowl, and

1393
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: now you get him again here as a member of

1394
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Uh. Not who you want to lose to,

1395
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: but a team that you should have some confidence that

1396
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: you've beaten twice. I think that matters. Uh. I know

1397
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: it was back in Week three and last season was

1398
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: back with Jared Goff, but the similarities in those two games, um,

1399
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: where that the Rams offense got the job done, the

1400
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: defense made made enough plays. It doesn't mean that they

1401
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game because of it, but it's

1402
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: a much better defense. And I hate to focus on

1403
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: what the last thing that happens. The easiest thing to

1404
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: talk about, but the tristan worst injuries like massive because

1405
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: because Tom Brady is gonna have to get rid of

1406
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: the ball quickly, and it's one thing to do it

1407
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and it's another thing to have to

1408
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: rely on Really just Mike Evans and Gronk. I think

1409
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: that's enough. But if you don't have a great offensive line,

1410
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: then maybe it's not enough. I'm with you. I mean,

1411
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: because it's Tom Brady. You know, fine, there's no way

1412
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: to count any team out. And the Bucks have just

1413
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: got it done week after week. But what version, even

1414
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: if he plays, what version of Tristan works? What version

1415
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: of Ryan Jensen? I mean kind of last week, by

1416
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 1: the way, watching that, it's like the Eagles crush Jensen.

1417
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: And really the interior line there all right. I mean

1418
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was under Durest, took four sacks, a lot

1419
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: of that, all of it happened after those guys were out.

1420
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're built around that offensive line, and I

1421
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: just wonder in that situation, if the line is having

1422
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: any issues, and let's say Jalen Ramsey uh reduces or

1423
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: takes away Mike Evans for large portions of the game,

1424
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: then you are looking at a Rams defense that to me,

1425
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Donald. You really could cause a lot

1426
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: of problems in this game. For the Bucks. I know

1427
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: that it's like you've got von Miller coming off one

1428
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: of his most impressive performances. Leonard Floyd, you know, a

1429
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: Sean Robinson. There is a lot to like about this

1430
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: Rams defense right now. I think they do match up

1431
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: pretty well, just because the Bucks are the one team

1432
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: in this remaining landscape where there are guys missing all

1433
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: over the place, and it's you know, they covered all

1434
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: covered that all over against the terrible Eagles team they

1435
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: just did not show up last week. But I don't

1436
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna be so easy against Stafford has

1437
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: also thrived really well against the Blitz. You guys make

1438
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: a good point, um, good points about this, Like there

1439
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: are ways to look at this game and see it

1440
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: as setting up very well for Los Angeles. Like Tristan Worse,

1441
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: for instance, as of Thursday was not practicing. Um, and

1442
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: you know that's not a good sign. I mean, we

1443
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: still have some time to go here. But even if

1444
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: he does return, I mean the fact that he tried

1445
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: to go back in the game on Sunday and how

1446
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: to exit. Uh, it's very likely or possible I should

1447
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: say that he will not be playing in this game. Uh.

1448
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: If the offensive line is compromised. That's playing right into

1449
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: the hands of the strength of Los Angeles would not

1450
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: only have Aaron Donald, the best defensive player in the league,

1451
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: but Von Miller, who has really come to life here

1452
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: uh in recent weeks. Here's the thing, though, and this

1453
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: is what I can't get past, and not even being

1454
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,480
Speaker 1: in person at that game on Monday night really changes

1455
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: for me the feeling that are the Rams hardcore? Are there?

1456
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: Are there? Are the Rams for real? Are in a

1457
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: big spot when the stakes are highest and the competition

1458
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: is big time? Do they have the guts to stand

1459
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: up and go win a game? I'm not there yet

1460
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: because I don't think the Cardinals were worthy to be

1461
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Uh quite frankly, how bad they were

1462
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: by the end of that season, and then the way

1463
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: they know showed so I didn't learn a lot about them.

1464
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: And then if you go back through the season as

1465
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: recently as Week eighteen, when they got up seventeen nothing

1466
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: and then laid down against the Niners and lose that game,

1467
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: and they didn't just start going through their schedule and

1468
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: any time they were supposed to win, for the most part,

1469
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: they won and took care of business. But anytime someone

1470
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: punched them in the mouth, they didn't know how to

1471
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: handle it, and that's where you'll find all their losses

1472
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: and speed bumps in the season. So the reason ultimately

1473
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: is it's Brady what he brings the things that the

1474
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: fact that the Bucks play so well at home, and

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: I just do I just see the Rams going on

1476
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: rust the country and becoming that team that they haven't

1477
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: been yet. I don't I think this is a ten

1478
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: point game. They did go up seventeen on the Forts,

1479
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: which is it's kind of maybe a silly way to

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: look at it, but they they've sort of been in

1481
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: playoff atmospheres, uh, back to back weeks, and I just

1482
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: think matching up against the Bucks offense, you have Jalen Ramsey,

1483
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: you figure he's gonna play a lot more man coverage

1484
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: this week on Mike Evans. You know, you give Gronk

1485
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: as much attention as you can. Tom Brady is gonna

1486
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: make those safeties that came in last week's Nick Scott

1487
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: played great and Eric Weddle was fine when when he

1488
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: was out there, but you would think he's gonna make

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01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: them look more vulnerable. I just look at both of

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: these defenses and I have. I am just as worried

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: about the Rams offense and think that they are primed

1492
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,839
Speaker 1: and playing really well, and that even though I'm always

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: an offense first guy, like I like the under in

1494
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: this game. I think it's gonna be tough for both

1495
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: of these teams to run the ball. I think it's

1496
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for both of these teams to get

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01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: consistent long drives. And I think it might be a

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01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: game that's more more suited to it to a Tom

1499
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: Brady gets a chance to go win the game with

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: with a touchdown at the end, but it's more like

1501
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: a twenty to seventeen type of game or twenty that

1502
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: it does feel like maybe a Brady finds a way

1503
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: type win where it's not necessarily gonna be pretty, but

1504
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day he makes enough plays.

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: One other big injury update here, so Leonard ford Nette,

1506
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 1: who went on i R in December with a hamstring injury.

1507
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: He practiced on Thursday and he practiced on Wednesday, so

1508
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: he's trending toward a return. Ronald Jones heard his ankle

1509
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: in week seventeen. Doesn't look like he's playing, So for

1510
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: Nett is a big piece too, because I mean, he's

1511
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: playoff Lenny for a reason. He was a major reason

1512
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: why they won the Super Bowl last year, and he

1513
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: was having a great year this year before he went down.

1514
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: If he comes back and is functional and can stay healthy,

1515
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: that adds a much needed dimension to their offense. Yeah,

1516
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, flip side. I I'm encouraged by what cam

1517
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: Akers did again to Cardinals m paired with Sony Michelle.

1518
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: I know it's like you can't run against the Bucks,

1519
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean they're more balanced. I don't

1520
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: want to double the Jimmy g scenario, but I mean

1521
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: some of those games where the Rams were punched in

1522
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 1: the mouth, as you say, I mean, and they were

1523
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: on defense by the Niners especially, And you know they've

1524
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: had a couple of bad losses, but some of those

1525
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: tied of Matthew Stafford mistakes as well. I mean, ken

1526
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford be as clean as Tom Brady or is

1527
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: this one of those games where Tom Brady throws a

1528
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: couple of picks that's happened too. I mean, I think

1529
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: those mistakes will matter a lot, but I do think

1530
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: the Rams are a little more balanced. I would ask

1531
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: you this, which coach. Do you think, um, who do

1532
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: you trust more of these two coaches, Sean McVeigh or

1533
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. I guess I trust the Bucks coaching staff. Yes,

1534
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: staff I would say, you know, they're both a little

1535
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: wonky sometimes in game management. And McVeigh gets so considerative.

1536
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: We saw it and that came like no one loves

1537
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: to blow time outs with like eleven minutes left in

1538
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: the third quarter more than Sean McVeigh. And he's like

1539
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: in currently conservative and I get at Stafford's made made issues.

1540
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: So I like left which and more than anything, I

1541
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: like I like the idea of what Bowls could do

1542
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: in this game. Because the thing that worries me as

1543
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: as a rams uh father here, you know, a father

1544
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: of a rams fan, you know what I mean. What

1545
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: what worries me is what's gonna make my daughter unhappy

1546
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: is father, is his balls cooking this group up? Because

1547
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: last week when he put Jordan white Head out there

1548
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: and they're kind of playing three linebackers, but one of

1549
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: them is a safety, it's white Head and Lavante David's

1550
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: back and Devin white is just flying all over the place.

1551
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: In the secondary, which has been a problem all year

1552
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: is healthier than it's been all year. They weren't with it.

1553
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: They didn't have Murphy Bunting in that game, but he

1554
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: could be back this week too, and it it sort

1555
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: of looked like a veteran defensive group that it was

1556
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: almost waiting to get to this point. They all came back.

1557
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: They've all they're all super Bowl champions. They handled being

1558
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: defending champions as well as any you know team In

1559
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: all that, The twenties sixteen Patriots did a good job.

1560
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: They almost wanted again, you know, they went back, but

1561
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: they did a great job. And like now they're back

1562
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: and they're just what whatever the best is that you're

1563
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna get out of this veteran group. I think you're

1564
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna get it. They're healthy, and it worries me that

1565
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: they could they could create some just mistakes by Stafford.

1566
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: And to underline the rams point I made, these are

1567
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: the losses, just for the record. Week four Arizona thirty

1568
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: seven twenty when Arizona mattered, Week nine, Tennessee sixteen, loss

1569
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: Week ten, nine, Ers thirty one, ten loss Week twelve,

1570
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: Packers loss Week eighteen nine or four loss. Every time

1571
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: they've had that chance to say we're we're a real deal.

1572
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: They've how about weeks three against the Box, you know,

1573
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean they gotta give them a little credit for that.

1574
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: If you've got to go back, I'll give him that.

1575
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll give him that, but it doesn't change my feeling

1576
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: about this team overall. I think I don't see them

1577
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: stepping up here. Uh did you guys pick this game? Well, um,

1578
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I just I trust the Bucks to

1579
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: win it, like or something like that. I think it's

1580
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna be close. I really like what I saw. The

1581
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 1: Rams team against the Cardinals gave me super Bowl vibes.

1582
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: I understand the opponent, but um, I think they're gonna

1583
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: give Tampa Bay the test of their lives. Yeah, I

1584
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: took the Rams. It's partly because Ellis does watch game

1585
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: debut on Friday evenings and she's very disappointed. I don't

1586
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: pick them. But the only reason, you know, I did

1587
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: that for partly you're trying to make it as an

1588
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: analyst in this business. All right here, here's a news flash.

1589
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: None of us has any idea what's actually going to happen.

1590
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: So in a coin flip situation, nobody does you know.

1591
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you picked the Raiders. None of us knows

1592
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in the future. I think it's a

1593
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: coin flip game. I think this Rams team is so talented.

1594
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a top five team in the NFL.

1595
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: You have them well eighth in your power ringings. I

1596
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: would have these two teams four and five. I think

1597
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: I'd go like Bill's Chiefs Packer Box. Rams would be

1598
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: my top five, and so to me, it's a coin flip,

1599
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: so you might as well go with Go with your heart,

1600
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: although my heart also is rooting for Tom Brady, so

1601
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna be a mess. This guy

1602
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: has not lost the year's a great crazy staff for

1603
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He's won nine street divisional round games. That's

1604
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: for posterous. He's almost played an entire season's worth of

1605
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: football in conference championship games. That fourteen this would be.

1606
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: He's had a really nice career. Regga's issues. He's divided

1607
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: here on this game. I really, I really am. I'm

1608
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: not going to really be rude. I'll be happy for

1609
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: either team, you know, alright, that's it. That is the

1610
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: preview of the divisional playoffs. Man, The way we set

1611
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: it up every game is going to be decided by

1612
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: three points or less, it seems like, so hopefully we're right.

1613
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs game which you did it lock, Well that doesn't

1614
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: what what? So then the other three games that you

1615
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: did not lock are also invalid in terms of your prediction.

1616
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: The most come to make sense. I am locking. I

1617
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: had to lock against you for obvious reasons, so that

1618
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: you know it's true. Because you know, Dan was up

1619
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: up um three games and now it's too and so

1620
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: if the forty Niners have a lead late, it could

1621
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: be it could It's the right move. It's the right move.

1622
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Mark, Not really, I want that

1623
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: trophy right here, right here. Now you've got too much

1624
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: stuff over there. I'm gonna move all that stuff make

1625
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: room for it. All right, Thank you everybody for listening.

1626
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: You'll hear from us again on the podcast side Sunday night,

1627
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: wrapping up all these great games, and you can see

1628
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: us on NFL Network on Saturday morning. We'll we'll have

1629
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: we will have our special divisional around uh one hour

1630
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: around the NFL program, So check that out as well.

1631
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: All right, until then, remember what you gotta do. Always

1632
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: beat the call.