WEBVTT - Shanola Hampton of Shameless/Found

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Di Dario, I have the biggest ball of beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>energy on my show today. I'm literally still smiling from

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. The brilliant actress Shanola Hampton joins me today,

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<v Speaker 1>who became a household name through playing Veronica akav and

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<v Speaker 1>the smash hit series Shameless. She played V for eleven seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean, it's just unheard of in today's TV landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>From the moment she graced our screens as V, she

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<v Speaker 1>showed the world that we all need a little Shanola

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives, and now she is playing a total

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<v Speaker 1>badass in the NBC series Found Shanola starts as Gabby.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a public relation specialist who shines a light

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<v Speaker 1>on missing persons cases. So you throw in a little kidnapping,

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<v Speaker 1>some shocking twists, some dark secrets, and of course rescuing

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<v Speaker 1>those missing people, and you have one recipe for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a thrilling show. But the recipe I also want is

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<v Speaker 1>Shanola's recipe for life, because she has a spirit that

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<v Speaker 1>can make even the grumpiest person in the world's crack

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<v Speaker 1>and smile. That is her gift. So let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>today we can get Shanola to say something that she

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<v Speaker 1>has never said before. Shanola, I love you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just said I'm leaving my husband for you. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how we're starting the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. How long have you been married?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine years this month?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Makes a ten? And then you and I have a life.

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<v Speaker 1>We have fun together. We'd have some fun together. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cute together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we could you imagine our kids? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, the eyes. See I don't know if everyone

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<v Speaker 2>understands what it's like to sit across from those Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>stop it. You do this thing where you act like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really looking at you, but I am, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know what my eyes are doing. I got fine, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but really I'm just so nonchalantly looking at you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you questions and you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>open up about everything to me. Yeah, I'm in for it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, I feel like we're best friends

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen your face all over billboards for like

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<v Speaker 1>months and months and months. Now does that ever feel normal.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't feel normal, but it feels really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also feels like I knew. It doesn't feel strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense. It doesn't feel normal, but it

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<v Speaker 2>also doesn't feel like it's out of pocket or out

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<v Speaker 2>of the realm of what was supposed to happen in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. And not in like a cocky way, but

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<v Speaker 2>in a very I used to pretend when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little girl. You just met my sister. We would

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<v Speaker 2>go into restaurants and I used to pretend like the

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<v Speaker 2>paparazzi was following me, and I was like, ten yea,

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<v Speaker 2>and no, not right now, please, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat with my family. And I'm just in South Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>pretending my family's like, oh, I got how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Relaxed, that's not happening. Yeah, I know that's happening for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Of course, Shanolo is a lot and so imagine

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<v Speaker 2>this energy at that age. So everything was Shanola, please,

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<v Speaker 2>Shanola please, oh, Shanola please. So it was very much that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at those billboards, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve that I put in the time. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is my time now.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say this. I never I was not found

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<v Speaker 2>in a coffee shop. No one walked by me on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalk and said, you girl, that you're the one

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<v Speaker 2>for this role. I absolutely feel like not only did

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<v Speaker 2>I put my time in in the business, but educating myself,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that I had the resources dealing with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of blows in order to be able to accept

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<v Speaker 2>this time in a way that doesn't feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an impostor, right, So it makes me feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I've earned this position. I think it's so wonderful if

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<v Speaker 2>people have success that is quote unquote overnight when you

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<v Speaker 2>see it in and they don't. But there is something

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<v Speaker 2>about that earn It makes you mentally ready, which is

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<v Speaker 2>really the biggest thing is getting your mind wrapped around

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in your life. And I feel I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>complete at home. I've been married for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on to the college, sweetheart, I have two kids,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's sort of my career is not on the

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<v Speaker 2>back burner, but it's just an additive to my already

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<v Speaker 2>full life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is nice, and it's amazing because the world

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with you from shameless Yes eleven seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, I don't even tell you that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>almost unheard of nowadays to be on a show for

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<v Speaker 1>eleven seasons. We did it, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We did it. It was. It's so funny. When we

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<v Speaker 2>met the first time we played Guitar Hero, we did

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<v Speaker 2>miniature golf together. Because John Wells, who is the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>showrunner of all time and creator of Material, knew Material,

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<v Speaker 2>knew that he wanted to create a synergy. It had

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<v Speaker 2>to be exactly right with these people, and he got

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<v Speaker 2>it right. The kids on our show were nine and

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<v Speaker 2>ten when we started the show. When we got done,

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<v Speaker 2>they were nineteen and twenty, so so much life happened

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to live it with them, and Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>was eighteen and Cameron was sixteen. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a moment in life that I can't describe to

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<v Speaker 2>people how special that experience was. Because we were a

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<v Speaker 2>family on and off screen and still are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not always the case, No, that's usually not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're putting different people together, you hope

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<v Speaker 1>it all works out, and you hope that you become

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<v Speaker 1>a family and friends, but quite often you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and sometimes you become family and friends, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just for that season and then it doesn't carry over

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<v Speaker 2>when the show is over. That is not the case

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<v Speaker 2>with us. As soon as I landed in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy's on my phone. You know, tell me and Steve

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<v Speaker 2>how we talk? Not just once a week, multiple times

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<v Speaker 2>a week. We're in each other's lives in a very real,

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<v Speaker 2>real way and not five minutes. Hey, how are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing conversations? Real life stuff like true friend true friendships,

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<v Speaker 2>true family. Ethan's out here right now doing a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just we're very and also, I'm mama bear, so

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<v Speaker 2>try to get rid of me if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what you're doing? Where are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did I have to find out about this on

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<v Speaker 2>social media? What are we doing? Yeah? That's that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like you. What's your sign?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a geminia?

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't?

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<v Speaker 2>But can you see it completely?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we compatible? I don't know. Someone looked that up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to need to look that up. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>we are. I hope we are. Baby. Let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you the show. I believe next year mark's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years since it premiered.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane. Yeah, that is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that's a perfect time for a

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<v Speaker 1>reunion of some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be such a dream and a pleasure at

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<v Speaker 2>whatever point that that happens, to do a reunion, to

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<v Speaker 2>reunite with not only our family, but to also see

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<v Speaker 2>where the characters people fell in. The crazy fandom that

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<v Speaker 2>is Shameless is unlike any other. Everyone wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened next. I want to know what where? Did

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<v Speaker 2>did Veronica and keV really move?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Will Frank come back as a ghost? Did he even

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<v Speaker 2>really die? I mean they did burn him up, so

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<v Speaker 2>probably Yeah, I'm gonna go with you. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to come back somehow because we got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it with Bill Masie. He's the best, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a dream. Now, listen, Jeremy has probably

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<v Speaker 2>booked and busy. I hope he hears me say this,

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<v Speaker 2>so he'll I you know, he might be too good

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<v Speaker 2>for us now, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mama Bear is the one that has to wrangle

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<v Speaker 1>everyone together, so it's on you to make this all happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, and he knows that I will uh huh

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<v Speaker 2>when I say we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You the is so beloved, right, what part of your

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<v Speaker 1>personality rubbed off on V or what part of these

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<v Speaker 1>personality rubbed off on you over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Her energy, Yeah, and my energy I thing rubbed up

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<v Speaker 2>on V. She's a little more street than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>But they both have this, we both haven't they We

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<v Speaker 2>both have this sense of loyalty about family and there was,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about shameless, V was a moral compass

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<v Speaker 2>in this crazy world. Even when Fiona would be doing

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<v Speaker 2>some of her shenanigans, she would try to bring her

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<v Speaker 2>back to some sort of morality about it. Now, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that she's not gonna rab the milkman from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from the truck and set that up, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was some sort of moral compass that she has,

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<v Speaker 2>and she and keV were the only relationship that was

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<v Speaker 2>sustainable the entire season series. They stayed together. They had

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<v Speaker 2>that patch where they messed up and it wasn't but

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a cheating patch, you know. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>true love that you got to watch go through all

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<v Speaker 2>of the things for eleven seasons. So I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>You and keV, V, you and CAV. Let's have fun

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. If you guys were to have a

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<v Speaker 1>spin off, yes, where would you be right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be.

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<v Speaker 2>Called, Well, it would be called no keV without V.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it, s e k e V no Kev'll

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<v Speaker 2>be easier.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that for the audiences in their car. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We've thought about this because we're trying to pitch it

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I'm just kidding, we're not. But no, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it would be somewhere with us owning

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<v Speaker 2>a bar together, because I just think that that allows

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<v Speaker 2>for so many characters to come in and out with

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<v Speaker 2>our girls going through puberty, that's where they would be

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<v Speaker 2>right now and having a deal with that and being

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<v Speaker 2>a biracial uh girls going through puberty at school. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not in Chicago, but maybe we end up moving back

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<v Speaker 2>to Chicago. I mean, I can go on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on. You have ideas, I have ideas and still

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<v Speaker 2>having crazy sex. Can you say that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can. You can say anything off. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not daytime baby, this is my spot. That's right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's your magic though. Your chemistry with everyone you work

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<v Speaker 1>with is always so right on. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in this amazing show you're in now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Oh my god, just brilliant, but especially with keV.

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<v Speaker 1>With Steve Howie, Yeah, who's my best friend? You guys

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<v Speaker 1>were magic together. Yeah, that was magical together.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't realize that to have that kind of relationship

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<v Speaker 2>on screen that we have. I mean our first scene.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true because I can say anything on you. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into it. So our very first scene that

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<v Speaker 2>we shot together, I am riding him like a bull.

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<v Speaker 2>The first Hello, meet Sheanola Hampton, Sheanola, meet Steve. Are

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<v Speaker 2>we ready? This is the pilot episode. Go back and

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<v Speaker 2>watch it. Veronica has a strap on tne though. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Frank saying, these are our crazy neighbors, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>riding him. And he tells the story. But let's be

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<v Speaker 2>for real. He's just being dramatic that because I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>I have to pull his neck, that I really pulled

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<v Speaker 2>his neck and I pulled something not true. I will

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<v Speaker 2>not own that, but he says, and that's how so

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're either going to get it together with

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<v Speaker 2>one another or you're not. Right away, yeah, and we did.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a very uncomfortable situation. And you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go absolutely and he was the same way awkward

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was sort of this chemistry that we

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<v Speaker 2>had right away. And of course he's such a an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting personality when you first meet him, because he's so

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<v Speaker 2>big and he can be sarcastic and people don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to take him. But he is the warmest, most

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<v Speaker 2>loyal human being in the entire world. I mean, of

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<v Speaker 2>course I feel that way because he's my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also told him about male hygiene. Sir, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna need you to man escape.

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<v Speaker 1>What was he shown up to set not doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, here's the thing, girl, even though you are pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to go down on someone, I'm still seeing something I've got.

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't want to see is your pigs coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of your underwear. So what you're gonna do is

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<v Speaker 2>going and shape that out. He'll tell you that, right

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<v Speaker 2>you met me like no, But but we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to do a going down scene. It was after that

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<v Speaker 2>first one, and I told him, before you get even

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<v Speaker 2>think about doing a sex scene with me, get your

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<v Speaker 2>butt in the shower. Sweaty balls, sweaty balls, don calm

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<v Speaker 2>near me.

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<v Speaker 3>Boo, not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he'll tell, he'll tell, he will admit to it

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<v Speaker 2>that I taught him all the things he needed to

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<v Speaker 2>know about male escaping.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a Shanola in our lives. In our lives, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's so true when you're working with someone so intimately,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got to be honest and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you want to smell good, look good, feel good,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. And when you're that close, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>better be ready for anything that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And your partner wants the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, amen, Amen?

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<v Speaker 2>What twenty five years married, twenty five years married, but

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years together?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I think you bring this honesty probably to that

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<v Speaker 1>relationship too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's so funny to watch my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I together because he is I'm the ying to his yang,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would be in the room right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>act the same way. I could jump, give you a

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<v Speaker 2>lap dance, all the things, and he would just sit

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<v Speaker 2>shake his head in that chair and just that's my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my wife. I feel like you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>very similar. Like my husband he works on ABC, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a news anchor, and I'm entertainment baby. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what we do in entertainment is not all buttoned up

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<v Speaker 1>on the News. Right, you don't want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, especially not after we talked about sweaty Balls.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, I love you already. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you already. I just am in awe of everything

0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you've built in your career and of the person you are.

0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And you have this new, amazing show that you were

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<v Speaker 1>starring in. Okay, producer, yes, okay, producer. It's on NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>is called Found. How does doing this show fulfill you

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<v Speaker 1>differently than Shameless? For example?

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<v Speaker 2>What you've mentioned it just in that introduction of it

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<v Speaker 2>is I am an executive on it. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I was afforded after doing a show

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<v Speaker 2>for so long, eleven seasons unheard of, Right, It's very

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<v Speaker 2>rare that you have that was the ability to choose

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<v Speaker 2>my next project and decide how I wanted my career

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<v Speaker 2>to look. I knew a couple of things. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to just be an actor for hire anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make sure that my voice. I had so

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<v Speaker 2>much to offer on the back end and the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't see on the camera creatively, that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make sure that my voice wasn't just mute

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<v Speaker 2>it and I wanted to express myself as a director, producer,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things. I didn't know how that was

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<v Speaker 2>going to materialize. I really didn't, but I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to learn from the great John Wells while

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, so he is one of my mentors,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did the directing and I directed in the

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<v Speaker 2>last season of Shameless and now being number one. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think about Shameless, you have so many characters. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have Bill who's number one, you have Emmy who's

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<v Speaker 2>number two at the time. Then there's Jeremy because the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Gallagher family. It's their story. So by time

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the neighbors, you're at number sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>six seven ors. I mean whatever, however it pans out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go from that to number one, Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>a producer and it is it a great world where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like yes, but it also opens up a new

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<v Speaker 2>style of management that you have to do with people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know from having your own up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it comes with It's so great. I love my name

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<v Speaker 2>being on this super cute picture. I love my photo.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got to have the meetings and we have

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<v Speaker 2>to get into stuff and we you know, there so

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<v Speaker 2>it comes with pros and cons and that's truthfully, what

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<v Speaker 2>I think people need to understand is we live such

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<v Speaker 2>a life that looks like it's all glamour. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>the work that goes into I always say, for every

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<v Speaker 2>red carpet picture you see me on that looks happy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is and it's a joyful time, imagine about

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<v Speaker 2>eight times me crying in my closet for each one

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<v Speaker 2>time you see me on the red carpet. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the life that we've chosen to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so real, and not everybody sees that, right

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<v Speaker 1>They look at you and everything you have going on

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<v Speaker 1>and they think, oh my god, nothing could be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in her Life's like no, no, no, you have struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>You've have faced rejection, and you've gone through all of

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<v Speaker 1>it like we all have in our careers.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of it. Imagine being a darskin girl with this

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<v Speaker 2>deep voice, Hello everyone from South Carolina with a natural hair.

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.920
<v Speaker 2>What jobs am I getting? Boom? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So really, when you just look at it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>also for me was never a doubt that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to sit here across from you looking at these

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<v Speaker 2>piercing blue eyes. You know, having this conversation, conversation that's

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful because I felt like it was already ordained for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and also, that's the beauty of the show is

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about things on TV that aren't really being

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<v Speaker 1>talked about. Yeah, you know, and I'm sure for you

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<v Speaker 1>that holds a lot of weight.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. But you know what's interesting when people say

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<v Speaker 2>we are and we are talking about things on the

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<v Speaker 2>show that aren't really talked about. But in our community,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about the fact that there is such a

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<v Speaker 2>large gap between who gets the media attention and who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't when they go missing. And our show is just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>listen everyone, We're not saying anything specific about any other group,

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<v Speaker 2>but every single person deserves to be found. Every single

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.200
<v Speaker 2>person deserves the same media attention. And that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to bring light to, is to make these headlines human. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we've been successful in doing that because

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<v Speaker 2>we've also set it up in a way that it's palatable. Right,

0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you can watch a thriller and you can watch a

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<v Speaker 2>man be in the basement and us to this cat

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<v Speaker 2>and mouse game, and the man is some people say

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<v Speaker 2>good looking, I mean that's fine if y'all into the

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<v Speaker 2>Marball love it all, Zach and all that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're looking at it from a way that is

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<v Speaker 2>still has the thriller aspect, and I think that's what's worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well well right. It's not trying to prove a point

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<v Speaker 1>or doesn't come off as preachy, feel like or it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson. It's just it is what it is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's telling a story that needs to be told. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, so it's I mean, this show keeps

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<v Speaker 1>us on the edge of our seats and you your character, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, heels running in. Do you see that running in?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, But she's also not a perfect character flaw and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that with a character. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>see another perfect person on TV board. Give me something

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<v Speaker 1>juicy and.

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<v Speaker 2>You play that, thank you. It is the best. I

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<v Speaker 2>always call her this beautifully flawed character because in many ways,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've seen the show, those who haven't, just know

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<v Speaker 2>that a man kidnapped my character, and then my character

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<v Speaker 2>re kidnapped the man when she got older. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know. The man was in the basement

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<v Speaker 2>helping solving cases. Yep, it's that good. Go watch it

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<v Speaker 2>all right, get into it. But what I love about

0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 2>her and the human nature is we're not just one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all have a dark side. Now it's how

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<v Speaker 2>much we're able to control leaning into that dark side

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<v Speaker 2>and what those triggers might be to lean in even deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if somebody comes from my kids, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you right now, I don't know what I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to m hm. You come from my husband, I might

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.160
<v Speaker 2>let you just lie a little bit, but my kidnams

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 2>getting it. It bends on but but so you just

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know until you're in it. And to be able

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 2>to have her dealing with trauma and healing and all

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 2>of the characters really dealing with some sort of trauma

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and having to heal from that, I think it makes

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it more human than us just seeing these number ones,

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing the oh I'm the hero all the time,

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 2>because in many ways, is she just as bad as sir? Yeah, yeah,

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:30.119
<v Speaker 2>that's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, And it makes for a really interesting watch

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>because you never know where it's all gonna go, That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, like will you turn really dark eventually?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I could maybe maybe the next season. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you see by the end of this season, you

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:46.679
<v Speaker 2>know the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm mm the finale's coming up. Yes, anything you can tease.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say that I read the finale and I

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't expecting what I read to be the finale because

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 2>it made me. You wonder, Okay, how are we coming back? Okay,

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, you're dying up in here or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, let's not get crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I did the number one number one that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just go you have to tie with your eyes open,

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.479
<v Speaker 2>in heels in heels, the heels would be up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, So anyway, No, I can tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>it is what Gabby does is unexpected and it was

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<v Speaker 2>for me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm putting your hand. Just drop that on and

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<v Speaker 1>just drop it wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop it like as hoigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, moving move that way. You're the star.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking the head.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so interesting. We can't wait for that finale. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the season three announcement? Girl? What are we waiting for?

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing? Uh?

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.160
<v Speaker 2>And b C. Yeah, I better announce it soon. Okay,

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 2>she's in high demand. I'm I'm playing on this mud show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, by the time this airs, hopefully an announcement would

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 1>have come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you have to do that thing where

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.719
<v Speaker 2>you said since the taping of this show, you know

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>how they do it on Blura has gotten a season

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>three twenty two episode thick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll come back for that. You'll come back for

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 3>coming back to Your energy is infectious And I love

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 3>what you said earlier. You alluded to always knowing that

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.400
<v Speaker 3>you would be doing this and that this was meant

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 3>for you. And at five you had a dream, right

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and you didn't let anything dissuade you from being right

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.640
<v Speaker 3>here in this room with me talking about being number

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 3>one on the call sheet in a primetime show, which

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 3>is just amazing. So a lot of people listening have

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 3>their own dreams, and it's hard to sometimes keep them

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 3>around because life happens. So what would you say for

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 3>anyone who has any sort of dream, whatever it may be.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that the biggest thing that I've always said,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>because I could asked this question, and it's really how

0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 2>do you block out the noise? That's the hardest thing

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>to do. It's generally one or two things. It's other

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 2>people around you giving you a look or even a

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 2>sentence that makes you second guess yourself or it's your

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>own demons that you're battling in your head. And what

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I would say is it's the intimate moments when you're

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>about to go to sleep, that where your heart and

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>your head are connected and no one else is around,

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 2>that you have to talk to yourself and say no, no, no,

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 2>no no no, no, no no no. This would not

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<v Speaker 2>be put in my heart if it wasn't meant to manifest.

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 2>And you have to keep saying it until your body

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:41.719
<v Speaker 2>starts to accept and believe it. Because the science of

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the mind is really what you have control of. You

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 2>can't control how other people view you, you can't control

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the nose and the rejection, but what you can control

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 2>is how you think about it and how you come

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.199
<v Speaker 2>into the next day. And that doesn't mean I'm not

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean I am kind of try hockey, But I

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 2>don't mean that in the oh that sounds so good.

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean in the actual conditioning of one's mind to

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<v Speaker 2>accept that this was placed on your heart because it

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 2>was meant to manifest and believe And until you can

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>condition yourself to believe it and feel it, just keep

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 2>telling yourself.

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It there was never a point you wanted to give up.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't a point that I wanted to give up,

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 2>but there was definitely many points where I needed confirmation

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that I was on the right path.

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>How did you get that?

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you I was bartending. Most people know. I mean,

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, can you imagine me with my

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>people's okay? And I had like I did a Martine shake.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>She made money. I don't drink. I do not like

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the taste of alcohol, but I can make it. Oh,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>come on, skin, thank you, thank you. And so when

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I was bartending, I would change my clothes. I would

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 2>go to auditions, I come back. I bartend, you know,

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 2>And then I would not get the part. And then

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I would be crying in the car and I'd be like,

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>oh God, give me a sign. Oh I don't know.

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And I would book a commercial and sure it would

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>be like adopt a proper commercial where they just skimmed

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>over my face. But I booked a commercial and every

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 2>time it would be something like that, or I would

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>get one line on something or five lines on something.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's like these little wins in the process of

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>rejection that kept me knowing, Okay, I'm on the right path.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>And I always say, if you're open to looking for

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the signs, they're there. Absolutely, they're there. You just have

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to be to seeing them.

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and I and that goes for everyone. You don't

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>have to be spiritual I am, but you don't have

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>to be. You just got to be open and willing

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and also willing to accept your dream. You accept it. Yeah, yes,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 2>this is my dream. I dreamed it for a reason.

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Except yes, look at me.

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>What's your crazy eye?

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't put sunglasses on it? No, no, no, no, we're not.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>You're getting be flustered now and then.

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Look out cuture and then you got all red in

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 2>the cheeks. I wish everyone could wait. Are they going

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to go back and see this?

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Can we zoom into the whole video? We don't need

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a zoom.

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Zooming?

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>No zooming zoom. My god, you werelax all right.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>See if I was shooting you right now, I would

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>go right in.

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<v Speaker 1>The slow slow the cinematographer. Director.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you don't do your hands like this, you're

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>not a real director. Director.

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I see you, I see you. You will be directing,

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I know you're going to be doing it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a role that we would be surprised to

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>know you auditioned for and really wanted that didn't work.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Out there, I'm true blood. Truelo crushed me, really crushed me.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh when it was one of those roles that I knew,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I was, uh, Tara, I think, what's the name or

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>they're on the shut m. Yeah, it would have been

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the vampire and it was the friend and she's bartender.

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 2>And went to the person that it was absolutely yeah,

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that the redhead, but she had a friend, Okay, okay,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>was it Retina Wesley? That anyway, anyway, you'll see you'll

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>see even some similarities with us when I tell you

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that I'd psyched myself up so much that this was

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>my role and I went in and I bombed the audition.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I was devastated, because sure, you can get another opportunity,

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 2>but once you've made that impression, it's very hard to

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>come back. And I knew I could do it. I

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 2>knew I could and I lost it. But I was

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe six months to a year later that I booked Shameless.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>See that, see that and the wild adventure you went

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>on with that show. Never could have been.

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Never could have been Veronica in her boobs out and

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>up to the sky. You know, all of those things

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 2>would have not happened. And if I didn't take that

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 2>l for True Blood and even if you look at

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the British version of Shameless, Veronica is a blonde hair,

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>short hair. You know, girl looks nothing like me. Let's

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>just say, but that was the role I was meant

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to have and that's what my dream was manifesting. It

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>wasn't True bloods it was Shameless all along. But you

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>can't listen now, doesn't that sound beautiful? All that was

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>so flowery? Now when you're in it and you just bomb,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>you just embarrassed and crying and you know those tears

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 2>it usually happens when you suffer from a bad breakup

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're throwing up and you like made yourself so

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>sick and you're you know those kind of that was me,

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, making yourself sick in the toy those for real,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the hitting of the staring wheel. It sounds so dramatic

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>right now, but we've all done it where it's like no,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and then playing the song or repeat because I deserve

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>to just cry. You know, it's heartbreaking, it's so heartbreaking.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I pulled over on the side of the road. I

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>always remember this when I left that all edition and

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I just bawled and I called my manager, who's still

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I call her my Fraen Maager friend, family manager, still

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>my manager to this day. And I was like, I

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>just blew my career. That was my role.

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That was my role, Honey, look at where you are.

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's hard to imagine anyone else in that role.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what it really is for you? It was

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it really was just like this role, just like Found.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's such a fresh show. And I

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>think Primetime, you know, Primetime has a ferocious audience.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>It's so hard, it's so hard to get him to stick.

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I've not done network TV. This is a whole different

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>beast for me. I'm coming from the streaming you say,

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever world, you know what I mean, what did we say?

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I was Roden, Steve Howie put a dildel. That's the

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>world I came from. And now I'm on network TV

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>doing cold gay commercials. You know, so the audience you

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>have to retain it. And what I think has worked

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 2>for Found and what I appreciate about it is it

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>does what NBC does so well procedural, but it's I

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 2>called it, call it a heightened procedural because it gives

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>you the thriller to be able to get the audience

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to want to come back and want more, and not

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>just the standard procedural, but for those who love it,

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you get to solve a case every week. But then

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>there's this other element that feels like a whole other

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>show within a show. Yeah, and so I'm really proud

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>of us being able to find that balance and really

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>find an audience to appreciate that balance.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. That's why I'm we're waiting on the final

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the results of a new season because we want it.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So call the powers f and make it happen.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I went, Meg, can you make a call? There?

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>We go, bring it home, Meg, bring it home, bring

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it home. Well, we have covered dil Do's, Yeah, we have.

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>We've covered leaving our home because I've got.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>More on that topic.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you do.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Look at Meg mag Is.

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, I'm sure you have more on that, Like,

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>we are done. We are done. We've talked about leaving

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>our husbands, yes, we've talked about having kids together.

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just leaving our husband for one another I

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>mean it's got to be worth it.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, come on now, nobody just out in

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the streets, no kids together too. So we've covered it all.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But now I have a question for you.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>It's based off the title of my show, and the

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>show is obviously called I've Never said this before, And

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it was born because I cover a lot of red carpets.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I also work on a show called Extra, and I

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>do jun kets and on.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>A show called Extra that hasn't been around for like

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty years.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to presume just subtle flex

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I picked it up home.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>There you go, and I get such limited time with people,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's how the concept for this show was born

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is I often saw people wanting to say something a

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit more before getting cut off or not just

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>having the same sound bites of what is your project about,

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you excited for? You know, the usual? And

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought, let me create a space where we can

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>celebrate the work, but then have someone come on and

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>say whatever they want to say that they don't get

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the chance to say. So, what is one thing you've

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>never said before that you want to share today?

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, one thing I've never said before. But it can

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>be about just something. I just never hear.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You want whatever it means to you, you.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Know when Okay, you know what I've never ever said

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 2>in my life is I hate someone Like I've never

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>said that. I just hate just feels so strong now.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I have strongly despised, right.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I have people that could get it, you know what

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And I got a couple that just ran

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>through my head. But I've never ever said I hate

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that person, like behind their backs or to them. I've

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>just never I've never been hateful in that way.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever said I hate I don't think so,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>not about a person, maybe about like I hate that song, yeah,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah no, but.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Like to a part like a humans couldn't Yeah no.

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't like that word. I really don't like

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that word. I mean maybe when I was younger I

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>used it somehow, but I don't. I'm like you, I

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>think in the sense that I'm very energy driven and

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I think what you put out is what you get,

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like that around me. I don't like it.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Even like we have a friend right now that we're

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of going through a little thing with Yeah, And

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I just rather I rather not go to those dark places, sure,

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of cleanse Yeah, goodbye, because it's not

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>worth it because guess what, it affects you. Absolutely, it

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>affects you. You're putting that out, but it's actually coming

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>back to you.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I believe that. So I think that's one

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>thing I've never said. I also have never said that

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fifteen. I usually say ten.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you're a twenty. I think you're twenty fifteen.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So you had to catch that. You had to catch it.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Just kidding out, Uh, but yeah, I think that. Yeah.

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that you have this platform where you can

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>dig a little deeper and you're so good.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you?

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Am I allowed to say that on your show? Yeah,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we're not zooming in.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>We're not zooming in.

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>We are.

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Or not? But no, this is what I love. I

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>love having people like you on who are so accomplished

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and so good at what you do, and who create

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>art that really makes so many people feel seen and

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>can escape into this world that you create. With everything

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>else going on in our real lives. You create that

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>space for people, and I love having artists like you

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Wan where we can talk about those projects. But then

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<v Speaker 1>get to know you more and I think you're You're

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<v Speaker 1>someone who I predict will be around for decades and

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<v Speaker 1>decades and decades more.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I know you say that to all of

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<v Speaker 2>your I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Not play them all back, baby, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am an Italian from Jersey and I call it

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<v Speaker 1>as it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and that means a lot. It really means

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you well, thank you for hanging. Your show is

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<v Speaker 1>out now, this is dropping finale weeks, so do miss

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<v Speaker 1>the finale, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick up already happened. Thank you so much, NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it out there, put it out there, and please

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I really truly will. Okay, okay, oh no, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what the folks didn't see? Are we? Are we playing

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<v Speaker 2>the music out? He did a wink. That's not fair,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended it with a nod. I've never said this, befo,

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<v Speaker 2>I never said this before. What's y'all song? Y'all have

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<v Speaker 2>a song?

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<v Speaker 1>That's my song?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, I've never said this before. Is

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by Me Tommy Didario. This podcast is executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio and by me Tommy with

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<v Speaker 1>editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've never said this before. It

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