1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Matt Happy off season, Happy Valentine, Happy Valentin. How about 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: told my wife yet that? But it is the first 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: day of the off season, the officially, uh, the first 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: day of the off season. Um. It's also we're a 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: month out from the starter free agency. Yeah, it's right 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: around the corner. We're basically two and a half weeks 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: out from the start of the NFL scouting combine. How 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: about that? I mean stuff that the NFL does not 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: stand still. It's like a shark. It's just constantly moving 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: dyes of it stops swimming and feeding, yeah, and putting 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: blood in the water. And even you know here rumblings 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: now too. I mean, obviously the Super Bowl was the 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: huge story, of course, but you know, you're hearing things 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: like is Brady really retired? What's going on with Kyler 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Murray in Arizona. You know, I'm watching that broadcast last 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: night and nonchalantly one of the announcers is like, yeah, 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald might retire if this is if they 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: win to the like did the hit rewind that was 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: that was Rodney Harrison. If Rodney Harrison in the pregames 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: that they go to hidden first pick, he goes in, 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: you know. By the way, I was talking with Aaron 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Donald and he said, you know, if they win the 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he might he might retire, Like yeah, good, 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: what works gonna hang it up? And I'm sure, and 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about McVeigh might go to the booth and 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: like all these rumors they're just rumors, of course, but again, 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the the NFL was like a shark. Yeah, well, some 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: of those aren't rumors. I mean some of those are. 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: You know. Whitworth said that this is probably his last game, 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: and the Aaron Donald said that he's considering hanging it up. Now, 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: whether those you know, whether that's a negotiating ploy or 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Um, you never know the room. 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: Here's what people need to understand. There's a difference between 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: a rumor and a report. I get I get this 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot on on d K Pittsburgh sports dot com. 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Well there's a report that's such as such as this 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: iem like, no, that's a rumor. Somebody made it up. 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Somebody's somebody is suggesting that as something like I did, 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I did you know a list of free agents that 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I would look at for the Steelers a month out 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: now that the seasons is over, um, and I listened 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: some you know, some offensive and defensive lineman obviously linebacker, 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: and what the other running backs? Those are the those 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: are the four positions that I think that they'll probably 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: look at largely in free agency. Those would then be 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: that's not a report that the Steelers are interested in 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: those guys. That is Kevin Colvin. Kevin Colbert did and 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: tell you these are the guys are interested. Yes, I 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: did not write you know the Steelers are are interested 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: in signing these guys. I wrote that these are guys 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: that if I were the Steelers I would be interesting signing. 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: But oftentimes what happens then is that in this the 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: age of all these all these websites out there have aggregators, 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: and aggregators are people who take what somebody else said 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and then write something up off of it, and then 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: oftentimes stuff gets lost in translation. It's almost like the 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: secret game, where I tell you a secret, you go 61 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: tell your wife something the same thing your wife tells 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: somebody else and then they come back to my wife 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: and it's something completely different than what we initially said. 64 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Was that like the telephone game or yeah, yeah, that's 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: what happens in today's internet world. Yes, message continues to 66 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: get watered down on as it goes down the line, 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: and suddenly something that was was just hey, I think 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers should do this, and now all of a sudden, 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers are. The Steelers are going to do this. 70 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. That's that's not reality. Like 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: you said, like that the Aaron Donald report is is 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: a fact. That's not what's based in fact. Yes, thinking 73 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: about it, he's at least considering it, right, right, right, right. 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: But the point is the wheels keep turning, the seasons over. 75 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: We're not gonna see football for quite a while, you know, 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: real football. It's football is short season. Yeah yeah, and 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: I love the off season. I like it just as 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: much as a regular season. So we're not gonna be 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: slowing down. There's not gonna be a shortage of things 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: to talk about. You and I and Mike pursuit of 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: been putting together, you know, top five draft position lists 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: two for the Triple Takes series, which is coming out 83 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: soon so all kinds of stuff going on, and and 84 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: we have a Super Bowl champion. Congratulate the Rams. We do. 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk real quickly about that game. The MS 86 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: beat the Bengals. It kind of played out like I 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: thought it would. I thought the Bengals would have real 88 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: issues blocking that Rams defensive front. They did a good 89 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: job in the first half of kind of managing that. Yeah, 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: they did that. Yeah, getting the ball out of burrows 91 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: hands real quickly and not allowing the pass rush to 92 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: affect him. And then the Rams adjusted and I think 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: they started pressing a little bit more and scheming things 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: up a little bit more. The bank was obviously We're not. 95 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: They were intent on not allowing Aaron Donald to completely 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: destroy the game. In the end, he ended up destroying 97 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the game, because that's what the players do. Yeah, but 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: I think it was what six sacks in the second 99 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: half on Burrow seven totals there were six and the 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: second half second, I mean the really to me, there 101 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: was two turn Really basically the same thing was after 102 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: the te Hagen's long touchdown that should have been a 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: face asking wasn't. As we all know, the Bengals did 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: very very little and some of that, I would blame 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: on Burrows got hurt after that point too, and I'm 106 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: sure him and Stafford both were dealing with an injury. 107 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think either one of them was 108 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: healthy after the the shots they took and the way 109 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: they were twisted up with their knees and lower body. Um. 110 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: But I also thought that's when the game started to 111 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: look like I expected at that they started. They started 112 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: hitting him a lot and affect him. It affected his 113 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: play even he even started them missing the ones that 114 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: they did block up for him. I remember there was 115 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: a third down throw and he had to throw to 116 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: the outside. It was open, and he underthrew it like 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: he just And I wonder if I knee had something 118 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: to do that too, I mean, and I also didn't 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: think the Bengals coaching staff did a great job of 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: adjusting to the adjustments and all those things. I don't 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: think either coaching staff handled the clock and time management 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: particularly well either. Yeah, you know I did. I did 123 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a live file last night during the game met on 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: on d K Pittsburgh Sports, and a lot of the 125 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: comments early in the game where well this just shows you, 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins, so far behind these guys and blah blah blah, 127 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, is the game went on? I'm like, okay, 128 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: So the genius Zach Taylor goes for it, goes for 129 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: it three times on fourth and short, none of which 130 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: he has Joe Mixon on the field for. He hands 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: it off to Soma j p Ryan instead because you 132 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: gotta trick him. Uh, you gotta trick look really good 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, he was running all well, you 134 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: would't want to give it to him on third and 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: one or fourth and one. That would make too much say, 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, they would know that's coming. Um. There was 137 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: another one where where McVeigh had that that silly Uh. 138 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: It was third and five early in the second half, 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: and he tries to pass with Cooper Cup. Yeah, as 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to to trying to throw it to your 141 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: quarterback trying to show everybody how smart you are. This 142 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: is this is part of the problem I often see 143 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: with and I don't show me how smart you are 144 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: win the damn game, especially these younger coaches. To be 145 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: honest with you, I mean, uh, neither one of these guys. 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: As an older guy, I think it's the youngest coaching 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: matchup combined age in NFL history, for the Super Bowl 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: and and in general. Yeah, I mean I often cite 149 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: analytics and all these things, but the fact that you 150 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: go for it a lot on fourth down isn't a 151 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: determining factor if you're a good head coach or not. 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely not. Nor as I saw I saw 153 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: this one too. That look, both of those coaches stand 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: on the sideline and they have play sheets in front 155 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: that they that they look at and they reference to 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: play sheets ald them. Well, yeah, they're offensive coaches. They're 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: calling the plays. How many defensive How many defensive play 158 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: callers do you see? Do you see? Who are head 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: coaches stander on the sidelines with their with their defensive 160 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: play calls. There's only so many that you got. You know, 161 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: you're you're not reinventing the wheel there defensively. Offensively, they're 162 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: there are way more offensive plays. This is our red 163 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: zone area of the menu. This is our third and short, 164 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: just as our you know, bread and butters. However everyone 165 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: organizes it's probably ten to one or something in in 166 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, because you may, okay, if we see cover 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: two here, a cover two show we've got twenty, you know, 168 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: twenty or ten or twenty cover two beaters on our 169 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: on our list, you know, as as opposed to Yeah, 170 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: so we practiced all week. Yeah, I mean, it just 171 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: aren't that many defensive play calls that you you look 172 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: at and go, okay, um, they're in, they're into you know, 173 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: they got eleven personnel in the field here with this 174 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: running back in the field. So we've got to we've 175 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: got a defensive play call just for that, just for that. 176 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't happen like that, that's just not realistic. Um, so 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: we drew in the dirt on Wednesday. Yeah, right, right, 178 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: right right, that's not the way it worse. I didn't 179 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: think they manage the clock particularly well either, or the 180 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: end of the games or Endo Havelves or you know. Yeah, 181 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: but it was an okay game. I mean I was 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: like the ending was better than the rest of the game. 183 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: I thought the last I don't know, six minutes of 184 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the game or whatever. I thought. I thought the rams. 185 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I thought Stafford, Um, it was funny. I made note 186 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: of this. I tweeted this out that Cooper Cup on 187 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: that last drive Stafford and Cooper Cup. That was very 188 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: much Ben Roethlisberger, Santonio Holmes in the in the Super 189 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: Bowl against Arizona, where every play on that last drive, 190 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: every big play was going to that one guy, and 191 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: you couldn't stop it. You couldn't stop it, and everyone 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: the stadium knew it was coming. That being said, the 193 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: touchdown to Cop, can't you at least put some kind 194 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: of help over there? I mean you would think, yeah, 195 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean because with all respect the cop who was 196 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the m v P, and frankly I would voted for Donald, 197 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: would have it's a three way time. Yeah, I thought Donald, 198 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Stafford and Cop all had pretty close to equal, you know, 199 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: arguments for it. Again, I would draft I would have 200 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: picked Donald. Elso had a couple of bucks on Donald 201 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: and guys. Maybe that influenced me slightly, but still, with 202 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: all respect, the coup after O'Dell got hurt, which I 203 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: do think hurt, the rams signified Yeah, yeah, I mean 204 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: they were looking they're throwing too. I really I really 205 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: thought Van Jefferson would step up in a bigger way, 206 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: and that just didn't happen. He was a little disappointing, right, 207 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, no, hagbe uh. Their second tight end was injured. 208 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Two was under recorded story like, but there was a 209 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: good stretch there a time post Odell injury, where Cooper 210 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Cup was nowhere to be found. I mean, I'm sure 211 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: if you watch the All twenty two that he was 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: getting as much attention to his dying. Yeah. And then finally, finally, 213 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Stafford just said, you know what, I don't care. I 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: got he's my guy. I get it's again. It was 215 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: it was like Roethlisberger with Antonio Brown. It didn't matter 216 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: if he's double covered. You trust your guy. Yeah, exactly. 217 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And so again, I don't have a ton more to 218 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: takeaways from the game. I think that both these teams 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: are in really interesting situations going forward. I'm sure we'll 220 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: talk some Bengals there. The fanboy and me kind of 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: like that. Guys like von Miller, especially Donald especially Whit 222 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: were through one Walter Payton Man the Year this weekend 223 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: as well, I guess McVeigh as well, even von Miller, 224 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: you know, solidified their legacy a little bit more. And 225 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think of watching the Bengals and 226 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: borrow about watching Marino lose the Montana way back when, 227 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: and the whole world was, hell, he'll be back. Well 228 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: it's not so easy. It's not so easy, you know, 229 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: because you know now again they're picking thirty one right 230 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: supposed to picking fifth like they did last year. They're 231 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: not going to get the blue chip sure fire. Okay, 232 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: plug this guy in if you don't, if you don't 233 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: screw up the pick like the Browns always do, and 234 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: just plug this guy in and he's an automatic starter 235 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: for you. It doesn't happen like yet when you're picking 236 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: thirty feet. It's not Oh, do I want jamarch Ace 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: or do I want Penny Seul? Do I want the 238 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: nicest range Rover they're making or the Lamborghini? You know, like, no, 239 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep your fingers crossed that Zion Johnson gets 240 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: to you, you know, like world And even then, I 241 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: don't know that one offensive lineman fixes that line. I've 242 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: said it a million times, like if I need like four, 243 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: I will be critical if they don't add three through 244 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: the draft in free agency because they do have the money, 245 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: but they also have to keep the Jesse Baits of 246 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: the world, and they have a couple of guys that 247 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: are kind of important. Best sex seventy times this year. 248 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: That was the third most, third most all time for 249 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: one player in a single season. Wow, that's amazing. Do 250 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: you realize that was the twenty first game for both 251 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: those teams, not including preseason. Yeah. I was talking about 252 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,359 Speaker 1: this in my podcast earlier, Like, think if you're the 253 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: fifth round pick, fourth round pick who's trying, you know, 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: is playing a ton of preseason snaps, does well and 255 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: gets the starting job, and you're the starter the rest 256 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: of the year, and you played twenty one plus three games, 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: that's like two college seasons more. You know, in your 258 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Lukie year. It's taxing and you probably started training for that, 259 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, right as soon as your college season was over, 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: so you had no time off. Um, you know, it's 261 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: it's taxing, and you know that's one of the things 262 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: that the you know, a franchise like the Bengals is 263 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: it used to dealing with. It's like we talked about, 264 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, now all of a sudden as well, how 265 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: many Monday night games are they getting next year? How 266 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: many Sunday night games are they getting? Thursday night games? 267 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, high profile games are they gonna be in 268 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: uh next season? Where you know, it's it's not easy 269 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: being the team that's now the hunted as opposed to 270 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: being the hunter. There were no expectations on the Bengals 271 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: this year, none, Well, now the expectations are gonna be 272 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: much higher, without question, I mean times a million. I 273 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: reference this to you off the air that I got 274 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: ahold of next year's Super Bowl ods and I'm planning 275 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: going down this right this minute. But last year, the 276 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Bengals at this time, right it's the day after the 277 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl were a hundred and fifty to one to 278 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, which is the lowest odds of 279 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: any team going into next year. They're right there with 280 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: like the Jags in Texas. I mean, is this just 281 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: a fluke? I mean, is it a the Football Outsiders 282 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: plexiglass theory, Like usually when you take a huge step forward, 283 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: the it's like you hit plexi glass and you bounce 284 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: back to you take three step forward and you take 285 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: one step back. Like history in the NFL as showed 286 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: us that that is a very very much a trend. 287 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: And it makes sense. I mean, it's just a short season. 288 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to take a massive step forward and maintain it. 289 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: And along those Linesdale, I mean, you and I cite 290 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: football ciders a lot, and I'm sure in the coming 291 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: weeks they will put out their injury report for the 292 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: year you know, the most injured teams in the league 293 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: and all those things. I guarantee you the Rams and 294 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: especially the Bengals will be two of the healthiest teams 295 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: in the whole league this year. Last year it was 296 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks who won the Super Bowl. Like, it's just 297 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: hard to have the same injury block. Yeah, there's no 298 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: doubt about that. And again, you know, if you think 299 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: about it, I mean, they're allowing their quarterback to continue 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to get hit like they did. I thought, you know 301 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter both those quarterbacks were injured. Yeah, 302 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean Burrow the way he went down and was 303 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: clutching that knee. Um, And I guess he's gonna get 304 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: tests on it when he gets back to to Cincinnati. 305 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if it's not so good, right, Yeah, 306 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean it may not be an a c L 307 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: S you know, terror or anything like that doesn't mean 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: it can't be like an m c L you know, 309 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: severely spring knee something along those lines. That that's you know, 310 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: that's as big a hole to fill for them as 311 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: it is for any team on any roster in the 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: NFC North. Their offensive line, and I know Steeler fans 313 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: don't want to hear this. Cincinnati's offensive line was the 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the Nancy North this year. Oh yeah, 315 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I mean I said that on a couple of the 316 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: local shows here, you know, when we'll be previewing Bengal games. 317 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, the Steelers lines better than this. There's no way, Matt, 318 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: come on. I'm like, oh yeah, this bad. This group 319 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: is bad. I mean, the right tackle and right guard 320 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: situation that they trotted out there, especially at the end 321 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: of the year was as bad as any any line 322 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: in the league. Really, you know, Yeah, that's where they're at. 323 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: And you know, the great quarterbacks masks some of that 324 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: great running back mass. Some of that's the same conversation 325 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: that we had last year. Uh, you know, and going 326 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: into the off season where he said, okay, when we 327 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: were talking about the you know, the selection of Naji 328 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: Harris Um. A great running back covers up some of 329 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: those flaws, and the mobile quarterback covers up some of 330 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: those flaws. The Steelers didn't have the mobile quarterback part 331 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: of that equation, but it covers you know, when you 332 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: have that kind of a quarterback who can marry ability 333 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: plus ability to run behind an offensive line like that, 334 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: it covers some of that. Joe mixing covers some of 335 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: that up. Uh, it's a bad line. Unfortunately for the Bengals. 336 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that covers up their bad 337 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: protection is burrows toughness and willingness to take hits and 338 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: hold the football. Well, he's already had a serious injury, 339 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: got hurt in the biggest game of his career. Like, 340 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: you gotta protect them, you know, like this is your 341 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: biggest asset, folks. I mean, if you have Trevor Lawrence 342 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: or Zach Wilson or anybody, you know, job number one 343 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: is making them comfortable. And Burrow has been comfortable on 344 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: his own, but not because of what the Bengals have 345 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: provided it. Yeah, so you know, I think that's not 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: an easy fiction. I know they have uh, you know, 347 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the most money available in free agency in the a 348 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: f C North this year, but that doesn't mean that's it. 349 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: I still think they're going to have to slightly overpay 350 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: guys to want to go to Cincinnati. I don't think 351 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: you're wrong about that. I simply based on the facilities 352 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: that they have there and things of that. Yes, maybe 353 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: people people might want to go play with Joe Burrow. 354 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: With that question, I mean, that's appealing, But you're gonna 355 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: look at you're gonna go in for that free agent visit. 356 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna Okay, where's the practice field at Oh, it's 357 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: across the highway over there undernath underneath the overpass, right, 358 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: all right? What about the indoor facility or we don't 359 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: have one, but we don't have them. Where's the weight 360 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: room that's down in the in the down the hall 361 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: in the closet. Um is the locker room is good? 362 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Is the medical facilities is good? You know? I mean 363 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: just there's a history of losing there. And frankly, is 364 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: the the ownership going to pay the big buck to 365 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: get the guy who knows they have spent somebody in 366 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: the last two off seasons and that's paid off for them. 367 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: But um, we'll see. I mean again, I think the 368 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: Bengals are have a chance to really put something together 369 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: for the long term. But most organizations I would trust 370 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: to get it right more than I do them. Yeah, 371 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's it becomes a matter of trust. 372 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: That's the one thing. You know. People that like to 373 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: throw out the well. Mike Tomlin has only won three 374 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: playoff games in the last eleven years, and and the 375 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Bengals now have as many playoff wins as as Tomlin 376 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: has uh in the last eleven years. Well, the Bengals 377 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: now have three playoff wins in the last thirty years. 378 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: So let's not let's not pretend that they've got this 379 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: thing figured out because they made one run in the playoffs. 380 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: Let's not. Let's not pretend the Browns have things figured 381 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: out because they have one playoff win in the last 382 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: thirty years. I also think, and I don't think this 383 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: is too crazy. You have a thought that Mike Tomlin 384 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: could do pretty well with Joe Burrow. I would think so, yeah, 385 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: I think he'd be okay with that. I think that 386 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: he would have some success with that. Yes, I have 387 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: some faith in that. Yes, you know. I so the 388 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: whole the whole play you can you can pick and 389 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: choose whatever numbers that you want starting from this year on. 390 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean we all yeah, idea. I mean the people 391 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: say three playoff wins in two thousand and eleven, Well, 392 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: those three playoff wins are actually since two thousands sixteen, 393 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: so it's three playoff wins in the last five years. Different. 394 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: How many teams have three playoff wins in the last 395 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: five years. I mean, all of a sudden, that list 396 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: gets a little shorter. Yeah, let alone making it every 397 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: year or or or damn near every year. Um, you know, 398 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: it's just the reality of the situation. And our our friend, 399 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: the friend of the show, Dave Damnishek. I don't know 400 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: if you saw this. No, I didn't like Dao it was. 401 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: He's put it out a couple of times now. He's 402 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: tweeted this out about the playoff wins from UH quarterbacks 403 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: on their first contract. I don't know if uh, and 404 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: it's really pretty striking. Um if if you look at 405 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: those numbers, UH trying to Okay, so are they good 406 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: or bad? It's so in their first season in the NFL, 407 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: there there zero quarterbacks who have who have a Super 408 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Bowl appearance in their seconds. In their second season, there 409 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: now seven super Bowl homes did it recently. In their 410 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: third season, there are three players who had Super Bowl appearances. 411 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: That would be Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Jake Delholme. In their 412 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: fourth season, quarterbacks, UH six super Bowl appearances. That's Mahomes, 413 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: goff Eli Manning, Rex Grossman, It's Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, 414 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: UH fifth season, five super Bowl appearances. This will be 415 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: the last year that rookie contract. It's Cam Newton, that's 416 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Roethlisberger, Brady McNair um. Six seasons into the league, 417 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: there are four guys who have Super Bowl appearances. Jimmy Garoppolo, 418 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Donovan McNabb, Carry Collins. Season seven there are 419 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: three super Bowl appearances. Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, and Dilfer. How far 420 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: is he going back here? Because there's no like stars 421 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: or stars. Yeah, this is like, this is like in 422 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: the last I think years, maybe something in fifteen years, 423 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: something like that. Uh. In their eighth season, just two 424 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl appearances, Eli Manning and Tom Brady. Ninth season, 425 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: four super Bowl appearances, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, 426 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: Brad Johnson, HM. Quarterbacks in their ten season, there are 427 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: zero Super Bowl appearances. Quarterbacks in their eleventh season, there's 428 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: one super Bowl appearance. That would be Kurt Warner. Season twelve, 429 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: there or two that's Peyton, Manning and Tom Brady. You 430 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: take Peyton, you take Tom Brady out of the equation. 431 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: With the majority of the of the guys who get 432 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl or in those first five seasons. Actually, yeah, 433 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: and that that has up be in today's NFL, you know, 434 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: like you look at I mean to be. Russell Wilson 435 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: is the best example, which also will lead us to 436 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: what should the Steelers do? A quarterback conversation too is well, 437 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: you can build a nice roster when your quarterbacks on 438 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: his first contract, especially if he's not a first rounder. 439 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: But even at the first round costs. I mean, this 440 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: tweet by damnit check to me is an argument for 441 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: you use the first round pick on a quarterback if 442 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: you're pitt for yeah, that's actually looking here. That's since 443 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: since one of the forty six quarterback starters in the 444 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl have been on their rookie deal. Wow, not 445 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: the guys making thirty forty you know. Yeah, if you 446 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: if you remove Brady from the equation, it's eighteen of 447 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: thirty nine. Well so almost fifty the quarterbacks who make 448 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl are on the rookie contracts 449 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: because you could pay everybody else. Yeah you can. You can. 450 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you can building game that people give it credit for. Yeah, 451 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: you can build the next round him are their outliers, sure, 452 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: but most most of those outliers are great quarterbacks, Peyton Manning, 453 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, There's there's some there, some guys in there, 454 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: some some other guys who you look at and he's 455 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: not a star, Jimmy Garoppolo, Rad Johnson, Trent Dilford. If 456 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: you're not paying big money for Trent Dilford that they 457 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: don't cost, you're not paying a lot of money for Wreck, 458 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, Rex Grossman and guys of that nature. Those 459 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: those are mid level quarterbacks if you look at if 460 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: you look strictly at salary, as I say, that'd be 461 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: an interesting study of for their respective seasons. How many 462 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him high priced quarterbacks go to 463 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, you know, like and contracts are weird, 464 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: Like right now Mahomes isn't counting a ton, but it's coming. 465 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: He's a high price. It jumps from the jumps from 466 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: eight million this year to thirty five million next year, 467 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: right right, right, biggest, this is a significant jump people 468 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: that are in the top ten. I guess of quarterback 469 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: expensiveness or cost, what percentage of those guys go to 470 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl versus cheap dudes? Yeah? And I think 471 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: we know the answer from you know this this tweet absolutely, 472 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: but we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. 473 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here 474 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll take a look at the 475 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: NFL power rankings per ESPN coming out of the Super Bowl. 476 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Matt has the odds for the Super Bowl for next year. 477 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this