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Speaker 1: It's me. It's other fucking Lala Kent. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Give Them Lalla Podcast. I have my two best

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Speaker 1: friends since birth. Really yep, Danielle say hello?

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Speaker 2: Why do you say Danielle?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm from Utah. It's about Utah accents and Madison

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Speaker 1: aka the hot girl from grown Up who is.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome for bending over in front of the whole

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Speaker 2: world at.

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Speaker 1: The rifled age of sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I was nineteen and you.

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Speaker 1: Did you have your boob job yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh wow, have my boob's done it? Seventeen? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right. She got them done super early.

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Speaker 1: I remember she called me and said I look different.

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Speaker 1: And the next time you see me and I go,

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Speaker 1: you got a boob job because you have to have

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Speaker 1: sexy get pregnant, which you weren't doing then. No, so

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Speaker 1: it had to been a boob job. She could have

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Speaker 1: got her butt done.

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Speaker 2: Madison never, I'm not a I mean she was pretty

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Speaker 2: flat too, so, but she didn't tell me. You know that,

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Speaker 2: I didn't tell anybody because I wasn't even planning on

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Speaker 2: doing it. I just went in for a consultation. He

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Speaker 2: was like, I have a cancelation on Thursday and I

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Speaker 2: was like, great, I'll get them done. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: this is how I made big wife decisions back then.

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Speaker 2: I did not even think twice, Wow, did you did.

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Speaker 3: It regret that decision?

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Speaker 1: Or were you happy with.

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Speaker 3: My boo amazing?

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Speaker 2: They're great there and they're perfect size. I've had them

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Speaker 2: like they're daily.

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Speaker 1: They look natural.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not fue natural, they're perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. But my friends, they've been with you

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know what though, I kind of feel that same

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Speaker 1: way about my boob job. This like woman promised me

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Speaker 1: I was going to be like a Victoria's Secret model

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Speaker 1: if I got my boobs done. Spoiler alert, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: The first time.

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Speaker 1: The first time. So Madison and Danielle we go way

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Speaker 1: way back from not Danielle, But.

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Speaker 2: We actually didn't even have a choice whether we wanted

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Speaker 2: to be friends or not. We were kind of just

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Speaker 2: thrown into life, thrown into life as r and family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because our mom's got to be best friends in

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Speaker 1: middle school. And my mom always says that your mom

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Speaker 1: was always very deep because in high school, when my

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Speaker 1: mom was like picking out a new shirt, your mom

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Speaker 1: was hauling out furniture.

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Speaker 2: She's always really she did like.

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Speaker 1: She did very mature things. So no, we didn't have

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Speaker 1: a choice. But I feel like I would pick you

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Speaker 1: guys as my friends regardless. Do you feel that way?

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Speaker 1: Of course you do.

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Speaker 2: She's like I do. But it's beautiful because we are

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Speaker 2: so similar in so many ways, but then we also

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Speaker 2: a balanced friendship.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, on all levels. And it feels

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Speaker 1: non judgmental, like family.

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Speaker 2: Unconditional, that's the words.

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Speaker 1: Unconditional.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: So you guys know that Danielle, Danielle, dan Yell, Danny

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Speaker 1: gave Danny. Danny gave birth to the most perfect little

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Speaker 1: boy who's here right now. He's fresh off the tit

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Speaker 1: cooing with his dad.

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Speaker 2: He needs his diaper change, he needs.

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Speaker 1: But luckily his dad knows how to do that. Good

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Speaker 1: for you and I really just Danielle's birthing experience is

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Speaker 1: one that number one obviously I can laugh about now

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Speaker 1: because it's just you have to know Danielle, all right.

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Speaker 1: Danielle is like, I'm natural. Don't worry. The baby's not

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Speaker 1: just left crying. The baby's with its dad.

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Speaker 2: Just walks out. We just put it outside for a minute.

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Speaker 1: You had this whole plangged in yelle.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, you guys. I wanted like natural home birth,

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Speaker 2: birthing tub, like any all, all of it from the jump. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I worked with a midwife. I went into two OBI

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Speaker 2: Like this is a scary first Well, you're gonna my

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Speaker 4: Do you mind saying your age for a listener.

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty six, okay at all?

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Speaker 1: And you just gave birth in November. Yeah, okay, So

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Speaker 1: that was the first appointment. They did the ultrasound.

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Speaker 2: They did the first ultrasound, yes and everything, look prop

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Speaker 2: looked fine. My everything was normal. She said, well, we're

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Speaker 2: because of your high risk. And I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not coming into this office every week, Like fuck that.

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Speaker 2: Then I go, okay, well I don't want to see

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Speaker 2: her again. She really I didn't like it has to

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Speaker 2: Like not etiquette and sweetness even in a medical situation.

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Speaker 1: But I switched Obi's. I switched Obi's like six seven

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Speaker 2: Because you find one that feels like it.

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Speaker 1: Was maybe at like twenty I'm bad at months and weeks?

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Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, I switched Obi's as well because I

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Speaker 1: googling all of these big words and they literally when

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Speaker 2: to send you information and not explain it is horrible, right.

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Speaker 1: So well, I was like, I'm moving on. And doctor Rothbart,

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Speaker 2: So yeah. So then I got referred to another one

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Speaker 2: you have digestinal diabetes. Yeah, say that right, And so

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Speaker 2: I told him. I was like, I'm not interested in

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Speaker 2: I know it was very it was rough, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: So both both experiences, I was like, I don't like

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Speaker 2: And it just rubbed me the wrong way. Both times.

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Speaker 2: She pricked my finger, tested my blood. Then I got

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Speaker 2: Everything that I did throughout my whole pregnancy was nothing

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Speaker 2: got sick. All my levels were normal. And I'm vegetarian,

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Speaker 1: No, you did have an easy pregnancy. Ye. At what

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Speaker 1: Had you always wanted a home birth, how old were

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Speaker 2: No drugs, honestly, looking back, because I've always wanted a baby,

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Speaker 2: so I think subconsciously I was like, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I mean forever, I've always probably subconsciously wanted a home birth, and.

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Speaker 1: That is the most savage thing ever.

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Speaker 2: You can really romantic some well it's like just naturally, like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and there's nothing about that that sounds fun safe.

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Speaker 1: My birth was awesome. Yeah, My birth was like I

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Speaker 2: You had no fear going into your birth, You didn't

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Speaker 2: Really beautiful home birth. Yeah, it's not always like you

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Speaker 1: I love that part. Yes, my thing is number one

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Speaker 2: So like that was the extemp. I didn't have this

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I cared that much about character.

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Speaker 2: The more I got involved with acting, the less I

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why I started doing really on TV.

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Speaker 1: No, you're gonna you have a camera in my face,

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Speaker 1: Which is so weird because I remember, even back in

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Speaker 2: We I'm like, I booked it. It's not like I

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Speaker 1: You put work into it. And at this time, we

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Speaker 2: And I would rarely, I like it, would procrastinate on

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Speaker 2: But it's not like it worked out well. Like I

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Speaker 4: Was there someone Madison, someone we might know who you constantly?

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Speaker 4: Because if I understand correctly, actors get callbacks and there's

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Laura. I used to audition with Jennifer Lawrence. I

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Speaker 2: And then like her career shoot up, like Oscar winning actress. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: And then later in life, she went on Watch Rabins

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Speaker 3: Did she apologize?

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Speaker 2: I forgot she did.

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Speaker 1: Because I went on to Twitter in a drunken stupor

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Speaker 4: See I have so many questions about you guys when

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry her birthing story. It's just now I my

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Speaker 4: I'm so because up to the point, I just want

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Speaker 4: there's a way to combine them, combine your experience and

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Speaker 2: But in certain states like no, no, you could do,

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Speaker 2: but it's easier. In California, it's a litt harder. They said.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, I think it's less about the hospital.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more about your obie. Like there were

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Speaker 2: Them probably Oh god, She's like, no, they're mine. Oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: But my OBI, like the hospital is really like it's

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Speaker 2: But that's the perfect thing. You have your midwife and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, do you know how long I went

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Speaker 2: Right? Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But where did was there any point because I know

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Speaker 3: What how did this guy?

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Speaker 2: I was I was committed. Listen. I didn't even pack

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Speaker 1: I mentally you thought you'd be I can do this.

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Speaker 2: I can do this. I I just visualizing. I felt

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Madison. So I get the call that

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Speaker 1: Danielle is in labor right, bathtub's blown up, waters in

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Speaker 2: Because I'm kind of her doula.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Madie, I hires.

440
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Her psychological She told me, She's like, I need you

441
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 2: no matter how bad the pain gets, I need you

442
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 2: to be there to like me, do not let me cave.

443
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: She was like, do not. I need you to be there, mom,

444
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: and are gonna try and get me to go to

445
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: the hospital. I need you to be there to tell

446
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: me to stick through it. And I was like, okay, Right.

447
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: So Nasim is Danny's husband, and that's actually a great question.

448
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 3: He was what side was he on?

449
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: He wanted her in the hospital, he wanted Yeah, he

450
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 2: was nervous from the get go of just just like

451
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: you've brought up like what if something happens. My midwife

452
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 2: actually made him feel really comfortable that if if I

453
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: was high risk, or if there was anything that was

454
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 2: abnormal in any of my checkups, she would send me

455
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: to her doctor if you know. She said that during labor,

456
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: if something wasn't right, she would know before it ever

457
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: got to the point of being dangerous. Okay, she would

458
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: send me. Okay, So, I mean they're they're super smart,

459
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: super I don't doubt that at all. And so she's like,

460
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: there's never been she's never had anything happen go wrong. Yeah,

461
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, she's had to resuscitate babies because they come

462
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: out black and blue, but they're trained to do that, right,

463
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: So I felt I felt very safe with her.

464
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: Well, I get the call that she's laboring, and but

465
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: then I wake I wake up because I'm checking my

466
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: phone and at it was like midnight my time, maybe

467
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: one in the morning, two of us because okay, so

468
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: it was midnight, and Madison said, we're going to the hospital.

469
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: But by the way, not looking back, just because I

470
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: know I knew Danielle's plan, and I just sometimes when

471
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: we all have this plan in place and it doesn't

472
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: go accordingly. I it goes back to like we just

473
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: all kind of have to roll with the punches, like

474
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: life just is gonna happen, and this is the game plan.

475
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: And the most important thing was getting roam out safe.

476
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: Right obviously that was the end goal. But so but

477
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: during before you decided to go to the hospital at

478
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: two in the morning.

479
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: I labeled hardcore. She tried. She really, I literally spent

480
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: ten hours of back to back contractions. They were what

481
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: like a minute apart, a minute apart.

482
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: Did you push?

483
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: No, I never, because she only at home. She was

484
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: only got dilated up over ten hours. And I'll keep

485
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: this is the worst part, and this is the only

486
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: thing I feel like. No, there was a couple other things,

487
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: but that was the hardest part was I kept throwing up,

488
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: like literally twenty times in that whole time. I threw

489
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: up contract I'd throw up contract, I'd throw up. And

490
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: I always had heard that that's a good thing because

491
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: that means you're close. So I was like, shit, we're going,

492
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: we're getting there, We're getting there. In the middle, I

493
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: was like, you're only you're not going anywhere, tested me,

494
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: and She's like, your only reality, said she texted you. No,

495
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: she tested me, oh tested tested. She texted me. Ye,

496
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: she was doing this aver zoom. I was delivering the baby. Yeah,

497
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: she text me.

498
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: I was a dol.

499
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So ten hours and I literally had nothing left

500
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: in my stomach. I mean white, I had no energy.

501
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: I could barely even talk. The bat in my eyes.

502
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: The tub wasn't helping. At that point, she'd been I'd

503
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: get out of the tub, I'd go in the tub.

504
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: Is the tub warm?

505
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah it was warm.

506
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: Still your midwife is like, no, we got this.

507
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 2: She just supported me, okay, And so there was never

508
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: a point where she was like we need to go.

509
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: It was it was finally my my callway. She's just like,

510
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore, because she was like, we can.

511
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: If you really want to do this, we can do this.

512
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you we might like I can't

513
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: give you a timetable. You're not progressing. This could go

514
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: on as it is for another five hours. Oh my god,

515
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like you just have to lay

516
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: out the reality. And then I was like, just like

517
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: to me, and she's like, I don't think I can.

518
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: And I think there was a moment where like I

519
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'm gonna just get back in the

520
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: tub and see if I can just get mentally there right,

521
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: to see if I could just keep going. And I

522
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: got the tub and I was like, I'm gonna throw

523
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: off again, and I literally threw up again, and.

524
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do this anymore. Did you

525
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: throw up in the tub?

526
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure you over that point and she had you

527
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: turned to the side to get in a different place, screamed,

528
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: and she yeah, it was horrible, but like the back

529
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: to back contractions, like where you don't get a break.

530
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: No, I can't even imagine. No, I mean, I know

531
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: how I am with period crams. I'm like, give me

532
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: an epidural.

533
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: It was the most excruciating pain I have ever been

534
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: in my entire life.

535
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: So you're like, I gotta go.

536
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: She's so she's she looks at me at one point

537
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't think I can do this,

538
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: and everyone's looking to Danny to make the decision, like

539
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: we can go to the hospital, and she's like, I

540
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 2: can't do this. I was like, let's get you the hospital,

541
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: and like, just let's go. No more back and forth

542
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: like something it's not something's not progressing for a reason, totally,

543
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: let's go, like this is unnecessary at this point. And

544
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: my midwife looks at my husband and goes go grab

545
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: the hospital back and we don't see looks at me.

546
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: He goes what pack and I'm like, oh, you don't

547
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: have one. Just get in the car. Go all rights

548
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: go two o'clock, two am. Our mom my mom whips

549
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: into mama bear gear and were just grabbing stuff and

550
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: I was just like grabbing the hospital. We'll get stuff later,

551
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: like let's just go. So car contractions are the worst. Really, yes,

552
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm like trying to rub her back or do something.

553
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: Don't touch me. I didn't want to touch. I just

554
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: was like trying to breathe through them. I probably had

555
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: like six in the car, and I was just like,

556
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: I was done.

557
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: Do you go to the er.

558
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm still labor labor drop into the When we first

559
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: went to the er and there was like a gunshot

560
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: before us, and they were like We're like, we have

561
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: a woman in labor, and they're like, we have a

562
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: guy that just got shot. Deal with your labor somewhere else, like.

563
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: Deliberate, there's like your apartment for you.

564
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: And so we were all playing the car again and

565
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: go to a different door.

566
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: So it's whatever doctor's working.

567
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I on that and not they had midwives on.

568
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: So there was but my midwife who came with me

569
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: and stuck with me the whole time, so she was

570
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: my advocate. And I was still like, listen at this point,

571
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: just give me the me the epidural epidel.

572
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: How quick did it kick in?

573
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 2: Well, so you get there and they have to make

574
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: sure your blood's okay. So that took an hour. No,

575
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: I had to wait like an hour to get it.

576
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: So that's why they gave me the laughing guests. They

577
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: were like, you look like you're gonna die. So here's

578
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: some gas.

579
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: And did it help a little bit?

580
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: It got me. It got me through that.

581
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: So they zip you into a room. There's an open room.

582
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: I guess. Okay, so there's an open room.

583
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: Yes, your family gets to come in, Yes, and then

584
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: just you meet your doctor.

585
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're dealing with it. You're dealing with like

586
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: most of the nurses. Nurses most of the time.

587
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Ok. Yes, the only time the doctor pops in when

588
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: the baby's coming, or she.

589
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: Comes in and introduces herself. I'm the doctor on call.

590
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: And then I really know what you're gonna get With nurses.

591
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: They can even be amazing and they're awesome and you're like, oh,

592
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: thank god, or they're.

593
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Just like rude because they see like a lot of baby,

594
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Like your birds is not robotic almost it's the most

595
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: special day of your entire life. And they've delivered like

596
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: fourteen before you're came.

597
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: So immediately you're like, epidural, epidural, and it was glorious.

598
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: How are you I know he's got the baby right now?

599
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: Relief?

600
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: Okay, he was happy to see her get some.

601
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: Like I was in tears at one point. Yeah, he

602
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: was crying. It was rough. It was really rough. I

603
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: was like this, you asked for this?

604
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: How quick did the baby come?

605
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: After? A quick quick? So I was still still determined

606
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: to have a vaginal Did they give you putocin?

607
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: To?

608
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: Like yes? So it gets even worse, so I mean

609
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: not horribly worse, but so they say, okay, we got

610
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: the epidural. They're like, your water still has not broken,

611
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: which I thought it broke because come to find out,

612
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I just kept peeing my pants when I wasn't in

613
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: the tub. I was like, and that's got to be

614
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: my water and I got to the hospital and they're like, no,

615
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: your water's still intact.

616
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, I've just been urinating all over myself.

617
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: All over myself. That's cool. At this point, I didn't care,

618
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: so it was fine. But so they're like, all right,

619
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: we can either break it now and try and get

620
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: things going, or we can let you sleep for a

621
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: little bit because you do look like you're going to die.

622
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: So I was like, let me sleep, like I need

623
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: to sleep. So I slept for a couple hours and

624
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: they'll be like, you'll be dilated by morning. Probably, it'll

625
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: probably can you're going to be ready to you're still

626
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: contracting all of that. So I slept for a few hours.

627
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: They came back in and they're like, your water's still

628
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: not breaking, so let's break it for you. So they

629
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: broke it. And did you feel it?

630
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: Because I heard that's painful?

631
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Is that not? She had?

632
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: She had the epidural.

633
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: It was glorious.

634
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: They do put like a hook up in there and

635
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: go and do it. Yeah, but you don't know what

636
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on. You're numb from the waisted.

637
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. You seem looked over at the

638
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: monitor and I was like do you feel that you're

639
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: having a contraction. I was like, no, I feel good.

640
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: This is fun.

641
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: So they break it and the baby shoots out no okay.

642
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: No I wish so then so like all right, so

643
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna let this see how this goes. And I

644
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: think it was like a few more hours later and

645
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: they're like, you're still not progressing anything, Like yeah, we

646
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: need to let's give you some potocin, which is the

647
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: uh fake.

648
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: It kick starts you into to contract it.

649
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: Did you get it? Okay?

650
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: And that's like one thing I did not want to

651
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: give me all of it? All right, when I give birth,

652
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: you give me all that shit. Do not do this. Yeah.

653
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: But I was like at this point again, like you

654
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: just have to surrender, And I was like, yep, just

655
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: go for it. So I started contracting more and more,

656
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: and every time i'd have a contraction, my baby's heart

657
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: rate would just drop and nurses would come running in

658
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: because it would get really really low, and me with

659
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: no energy because I still haven't eaten. They'd have like me,

660
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: flip over to my side or flip over to the other.

661
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Keep in mind her light, she's numb from the waist down,

662
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: and just with.

663
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: Chords, like I have to show you some pictures. They're crazy.

664
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: So then at one point they're like, we need you

665
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: to get on your hands and knees on.

666
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: All fours like a dog numb.

667
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: My heart is okay, And they'd have to like help

668
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: me pick my body up to turn to try and

669
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: get his heart rate to go back up because it

670
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: would get dangerously low. And at one point I had

671
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: like five nurses in there like trying to move my body.

672
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: So then they were like, hey, we need to give

673
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: you a drug to stop this potocin because he's not

674
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: liking it. So they give me this drug, and all

675
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I was like, I don't feel good,

676
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: and then I started throwing up. So this drug like

677
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: literally made me sick. I don't even remember what it

678
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: was called, but it stopped my contractions but made me

679
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: super sick, so again I started throwing it.

680
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: Are you furious at this point because you didn't want

681
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: that medicine?

682
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: And then they made you take it?

683
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: And he surrendered at that.

684
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what's going on at this point, Okay,

685
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be pleasant with myself and right

686
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: trying to and then the nurses are it's just like

687
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: a waiting game. It's like a time thing, you know,

688
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: and it's like okay, And that's when it was kind

689
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: of Then they checked me and they were like, hey,

690
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: you're you're at like a seven or an eight. You're

691
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: still not ready to push, so we're going to just

692
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: like right the out happen. So we're gonna let it

693
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 2: ride for a little bit longer. Finally they come back

694
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: in a few more hours later and they're like, we're

695
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: going to give me another hit of tosin see if

696
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: we can get this baby out. And I was like, okay,

697
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: let's do it again and again. Anytime he would he

698
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: would contract like meaning tried to come down.

699
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Because the contraction is the baby working his way to

700
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: the birth.

701
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Trying to get I didn't know that, but that's good

702
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: to know. Yeah, the body is an incredible He would

703
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: drop again every contraction, so again another cycle of the

704
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: drug that stopped the contractions that made me sick.

705
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: I started king up.

706
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm like the two rounds of that and I was

707
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 2: just like handling it like a champion. She's just what

708
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: are you doing there? There's so many nurses and then

709
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: you also we would have to alternate because they didn't

710
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: want too many people. So then it was like, I

711
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: don't even remember we'd have to alternate coming in and out,

712
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: and you're updating Lalla. I'm updating Lalla, okay, kind of

713
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: updating everybody in our family, and she's just looking like

714
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and she's like no. I was like, I'm gonna have

715
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: enough energy to push like I didn't. I didn't. So

716
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: the nurse or the after like six nurses were in

717
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: my room. They finally are like, we're gonna call the doctor.

718
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: So she comes in and she's like, here's the thing.

719
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: We really do feel like he's got something going like

720
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: in his way from coming down, which is why he's

721
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: having He's becoming stressed anytime he tries to get down.

722
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: He's trying just so hard to come into the world,

723
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: and he just couldn't he just get hitting something. So

724
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: my doctor was like, we can keep doing this, but

725
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: you're not accelerating anymore, and it's getting kind of close

726
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: to the point of like we need to get him out.

727
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: He's stressed in there.

728
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: So so it was again my choice because the beautiful

730
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: hospital I went to, she had an emotional moment when

731
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 2: they just they selected the woman. They don't like rush

732
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: you into a c section because they want to. They

733
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: really gave me the opportunity to, like, I want to

734
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: keep going or I was just like, fuck it, let's

735
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: just get this baby out. And I had to surrender

736
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: to that because that was like my worst case scenario

737
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: was the section.

738
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: Did your midwife have an opinion?

739
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: She was kind of like something, the midwife, there's no

740
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: reason why he shouldn't be something something, something's going on.

741
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: And it was the umbilical cord was wrapped around his

742
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: knead and his head had and his foot around and

743
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: round like this way.

744
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this chord around the top of his head was

745
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: in the way of the servant or right at the cervix,

746
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: so anytime he tried, it would pull him back up.

747
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I think if I would have waited, it would have

748
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: turned into an emergency. I think it would have too.

749
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: And this is why, like, looking at it now, because

750
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: we know he's here and healthy, we can laugh because

751
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: it's like we make plans and God laughs. But it

752
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: was like, in that point in time, you just want

753
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: the kid.

754
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: You just have to surrender.

755
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, the mom too, right, because there's a lot of

756
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: moms who you know, it starts affecting their health. And

757
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: that was just like it was.

758
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: It was crazy and I don't like look back and

759
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: like poor me, like I'm upset about the way things

760
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: turned out, Like I have the perfect baby and my

761
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: delivery was exactly the way it was. Both. The doctor

762
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: was so chic. She came in and she put everybody

763
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: at peace. She was like it was like, yes, she

764
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: gets to do whatever it is going to go down.

765
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: That's beautiful because you didn't want this experience that you

766
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 4: could have had an asshole doctor.

767
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: They exist, but you had.

768
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: A beautiful she is really I don't.

769
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: So what see section do they like Russian? And then

770
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: there's like tools.

771
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it was emergency at that point.

772
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Okay, it was calm. Pieces soon got to go in

773
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: the room with me. I didn't feel a single thing.

774
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: It's very quick and it's very like you just feel pressure.

775
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: You don't film cutting you open, but you feel like

776
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: them like pushing the baby out. Right, they'll like push

777
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: it at the top of your stomach. I think, to

778
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: push him out and you have like a tarp, right,

779
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: so like while they're cutting you open, nobody like to

780
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: see him. Who's sitting next to me. He can't see him,

781
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: he can't see over there, like them actually cutting me open.

782
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: No, there's like it.

783
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: But then they asked me, do you want to see

784
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: him when we pull him out? So yeah, so I

785
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I want to see it, like I

786
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: want as much experience during this as I can get.

787
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: So I literally like put my head up and watched

788
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: them like pull him out of me.

789
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so, it was.

790
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: It was really cool.

791
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: I didn't realize. I didn't realize.

792
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: I thought they pulled him out and they rushed them

793
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: on my phone to clean him up.

794
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: They do, they do. But they said, do you want

795
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: to see him first?

796
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, so he didn't go directly onto

797
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: your chest.

798
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: No, that's I don't think you can after a s second.

799
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: Not after a second.

800
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: They have there's some doctor, there's some hospitals now that

801
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: will do it. Yeah, but no, this was my first,

802
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: my first glance at him, and it's still like kind

803
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: of a she's hard. Memory was a little hormone. Yeah.

804
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: She showed me photos and she's like, I'm so, it's

805
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: still really hard to see the world. That's how I

806
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: can remember this. I saw him, But that's how I

807
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: first saw him.

808
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Wait, what's wrong plastic?

809
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: It's reallastic.

810
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: Okay, so she's showing a photo that is the baby

811
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: through the plastic.

812
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh so gorgeous.

813
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, but that was and I'm bawling. I'm just like,

814
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: of course here every.

815
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: Kids see, I think this is a beautiful photo. Really,

816
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I got Yes, yes.

817
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: I do because.

818
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: It's sad because of what I wanted. But again, I'm

819
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: learning to just let it go.

820
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: But here's the fun The funniest part about it all

821
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: is I asked her, would you ever do a home

822
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: birth and birth again? She was like, I will never

823
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: ever take me straight to a hospital to give birth.

824
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I will never ask my husband for a home birth

825
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: ever again in my entire life. I and I was

826
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: number one advocate for it. I know, and your experience everyone, Yeah,

827
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: it's it's there's so many.

828
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: Things, right, we all live our lives due to the

829
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: experiences that we have personally had through.

830
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah with everything.

831
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with that because I've been through this.

832
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: So it's hard when you're trying to tell people why

833
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: you pick to do certain things because you're constantly coming

834
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: from a place that you don't know. Because I've curienced it,

835
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: you know.

836
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: You wouldn't this this is the thing will realm right.

837
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: It's like our mom wanted her to just have a

838
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: nice birth in a hospital, right. Dane was a C section,

839
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: and then my mom had a baby every single way,

840
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: a natural one. She's like never and then epidural babies,

841
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: and she's like, just do it, just do it. But

842
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: Danielle was so no, my decision is to do it

843
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: this way. And so it's like and I would want

844
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: you just got to let people do what they want

845
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: to do. I would watch away YouTube homebirth videos and

846
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: stuff and they were just so beautiful and you're like,

847
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: I can do that, Yeah, do that. But it just

848
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: mind fucked right, But you know what it literally, I

849
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if like women's bodies hand labor,

850
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they do handle labor differently. There's so

851
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: many different factors, of course, and that's why like there

852
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: is a shout out to women that do it natural

853
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: because because it is beautiful.

854
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: But Danielle, I think you, I honestly think you could

855
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: have done it naturally, but there was something something was

856
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: keeping him inside. Yeah, but there was nothing that you

857
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: could have done.

858
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: And you have nothing to prove. No, but no again,

859
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: Like I don't ever want to go through that experience again,

860
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: so do you.

861
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, just feel like because my labor experience, I wish

862
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: that every single day I could do it again over

863
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and over again. Like if I could literally just do

864
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: that every single day like Groundhog's Day, Yeah, I would

865
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: do it.

866
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's like a really happy story.

867
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And that's why I feel badly because

868
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: everyone that's pregnant, I'm like, it was gonna be amazing.

869
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna feel anything. They just slip right out.

870
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: And again it's because ocean kind of like I rolled

871
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: into the hospital at eight a m. I was a

872
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: little hungry, so they were like, we're not going to

873
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: do anything then until you eat. So at eleven is

874
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: when they started like the laboring process and inducing me.

875
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

876
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: And then at like ten they broke my water and

877
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: they were like, we're gonna clean you up because the

878
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: bed is soaking wet. I was like, I don't even

879
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: feel it. I'm so tired, Yeah, so just leave it.

880
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: So I just like slept in water all night and

881
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: then at six am they come in stick the fingers

882
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: up and they were like in and out all night,

883
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: obviously checking, you know, finger banging me to check my cervix.

884
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: And at six they were like, oh, the head is

885
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: we're there, and they said give us a test. Push.

886
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: So I did one little and they go, stop, do

887
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: not do anything. I'm looking at the head. We got

888
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: to get the doctor in here, so I had to

889
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: wait for the doctor. The doctor's like, oh, yeah, that's

890
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: the head. Yeah, we're doing it.

891
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: Here we go.

892
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there pushing and I'm like, am I doing it?

893
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: You're doing it.

894
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at her. It was like seven pushes and

895
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: she was out.

896
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: How that's beautiful.

897
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I feel so bad. I shouldn't

898
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: tell anyone about my birthing experience.

899
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: No, it's they all get here and they're all it's

900
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: it's beautiful.

901
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: I did this to Danielle. I projected, yeah, okay, he's beautiful,

902
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: he's perfect healthy.

903
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: Oh he was healthy right, there was healthy, nothing wrong,

904
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: So everything's.

905
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: Experience is different.

906
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: He had a scowl when he came out, because I

907
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: think he was the little you have a scowl.

908
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: He got my scowl, but well he was like, babes,

909
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: you're trying to make me give birth at home, and

910
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm all like I need to know by this umbilical

911
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: cord and shit.

912
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was traumatic. I look back and I'm like,

913
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: fucking birth is hard.

914
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: And I wasn't expecting that women are superheroes.

915
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: It's wild to think women used to do it at home. Yeah,

916
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: Like there was probably so many babies that had to

917
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 4: pass away because you didn't.

918
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 2: Have an option. Yeah, you didn't even have the option

919
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: to have a different you know. It was like it

920
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: is what it is, here we go and you had

921
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: no way to even know what it was going to

922
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: feel like be like all of it. You just had

923
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: to fight through it, which I thought I could do.

924
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: But is it weird, Madison, to be like, because you've

925
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: obviously known me since childhood, your sister, you've known your

926
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: whole life, is it weird to be like, Wow, these

927
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: people are like responsible for human being.

928
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, because you guys were such degenerates also

929
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: for so you know, but it's so beautiful to see

930
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: the growth and like the next chapter because some people

931
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: like seriously just continue that party and they just like

932
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: stay in that and it's like so to see it

933
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: go from like oh wild wild, free spirits, just pushing

934
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: the limits. We were wild, yes, and then now you

935
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: guys are like the most amazing mothers mail mill. We're

936
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: doing it, d we're doing it.

937
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean we were degenerates? I thought

938
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: we were fun.

939
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: Well, I mean people who get shit face and fun.

940
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: It's degenerate behavior. It's fun. But it's like you're not.

941
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: Like you actually had to have like a serious conversation

942
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: with them when you two would do your edibles, and

943
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: then she'd be like, Danny, we're not fun. You guys

944
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: aren't fun. Well, you would get angry, and then you

945
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: guys would be like writing. You'd be in the same realm,

946
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: and then no one else would be in that realm

947
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: with you, and then you just there was no consideration

948
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: for any organization or rules. Let's say like we had

949
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: to like take a car somewhere. It was like babysitting.

950
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: It was hell. Then you're trying to like have fun,

951
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: so we were you. Yeah, you guys had fun.

952
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: Why didn't you get on that realm?

953
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: You just chose.

954
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: In New York But I was having my own fun

955
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: in New Yorkers. Yeah, but I was, you know, I

956
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: was like that was a whole other chapter for me,

957
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: there was this one this.

958
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, because she wants to like places blame that.

959
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: We were like pure debauchery.

960
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: All the time.

961
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: It is my past going to come up right now.

962
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it isoat the sailboat. No, this is on the

963
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: rooftop at eplb.

964
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

965
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: We go to brunch. We get wasted. At brunch, we

966
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: meet this older couple. And when I say older, they're

967
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: in their seventies, old late sixties, early seventies, all right,

968
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: And we're like we're were. We become best friends with them.

969
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: We go to this rooftop, we continue drinking.

970
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: They come with us.

971
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: They come with us, the old couple.

972
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: They're like, we want to hang out with you guys.

973
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they come with us. We're like, come on, Madison

974
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: is wasted to the point where like she starts crawling

975
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: in the No, no, this is not how it went down.

976
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: How are you going to tell me how it went down?

977
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: Why did I start doing that?

978
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: All right? Why did you start crawling through this?

979
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Because my sister got nasty with me? Oh I did,

980
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: And yes, we gotten a little bit of a tiff

981
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: and you said something. I was like, fine, I'm just

982
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: gonna do what you guys do. I'm gonna do whatever

983
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: I want. I don't remember this, and so I started exactly.

984
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: So I started just doing whatever, and I was just

985
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was doing. Well back five,

986
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: I committed to proving that point.

987
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: It back is my point.

988
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: And the bouncer comes over to me. I'm like, what

989
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: do you need to do?

990
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Kick me out? He kicked all of us out.

991
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: I was like, fine, I'm ready to go home anyway.

992
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm tired.

993
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So we are elderly friends get kicked out as well.

994
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: They have to come with us, so they I don't know.

995
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: In the midst of my like edible and vodka fog,

996
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: the old couple comes up to me and they're like,

997
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: they're not letting us leave. So I go up to

998
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: the valet and I was like, you have to let

999
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: them leave. Give them their car, like they just want

1000
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: to go home, and he goes, they're not okay. I said,

1001
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: they're fine, they're like old people, and he goes, well,

1002
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: they just crash their Porsche into the cement wall. So

1003
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, they're not okay. I was like,

1004
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: oh bye, Bob, and man, see gotta run. That's the

1005
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: weirdest fucking nice.

1006
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: But that's weird, degenerate, that's not like stand up behavior

1007
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: in a society. These are people.

1008
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: Fine, how old are you?

1009
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: You were just like last year?

1010
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: No, yeah, we were young. We were in our early twenties.

1011
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm dying because you've told I don't know if

1012
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 4: you've told the story on the podcast about when there

1013
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: was a guy and Danielle was yelling through the man.

1014
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: It was James Kennedy.

1015
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: You have to sell that on the podcast.

1016
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: But Danielle had rage. Danielle would when she would drink,

1017
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: we would call her Bianca because she turned into this

1018
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: like angry. She was dealing with heart like the men

1019
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and being heartbroken and then just drinking

1020
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: and taking it all all out on us.

1021
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would get mean.

1022
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at her now, look at the gross

1023
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: an angel.

1024
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: No, but unconditional love. There we go full circlove. No,

1025
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: there was a night that I was we were out

1026
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: and about Danielle was I got sent home early. I

1027
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: sent your ass home early.

1028
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: They I got sent home a couple of different times.

1029
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Tiffany put your ass in an uber

1030
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: and said.

1031
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: I was like I was like, crying at the club

1032
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: was a bit.

1033
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: We were on Sunset Boulevard.

1034
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: It's because of men. It was because of a man.

1035
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, crying at the club.

1036
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: She was the club and I was like, I'm not

1037
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: drawing to go home, so I would never do this.

1038
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: Now.

1039
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: Just put my friend wasted and so upset into an

1040
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: uber and be like get her home safe. But I did.

1041
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: I got home safe.

1042
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 1: You fell out of the window and smacked your head

1043
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: on the concrete.

1044
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: I'm okay, though, see pain tolerance, you guys. She's like,

1045
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: when I got hit by a car, I didn't even

1046
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: feel it.

1047
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: But before this.

1048
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: Happens, I invite James over and we're talking at the

1049
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: Olympic apartment and she storms out of her bedroom. Danielle does,

1050
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: I was already asleep. You were asleep, passed out, but

1051
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: she gets up and being loud.

1052
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: They were being loud and I was trying to sleep.

1053
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yells down the hall, shut the fuck up.

1054
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: And I look at James and I was like, all right, Danielle,

1055
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: go to bed, go to bed. And she storms towards

1056
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: me and I like kind of show her off and

1057
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: take James to my room. She puts her foot where

1058
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: the door is to stop it. I was like, get

1059
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the fuck out of my space. She proceeds, I lock

1060
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: the door, proceeds to go into her bedroom and we

1061
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: share a vent.

1062
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: Right, we share an event.

1063
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: While event is screaming through the vent, she's a whore?

1064
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Wat was a whore? James ask her who she had

1065
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: in her bed last night? Ask her horror, and then

1066
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: James and are looking at each other and I'm like,

1067
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: I'm not a whore. I'm just someone that's having fun.

1068
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm just actually free. I always use all.

1069
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: It's screaming through the vent, that is, I had to

1070
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 4: get the last word.

1071
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: That's so fucking funny. And you hearing the echo. No,

1072
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: I could hear it through the ventrickety like janky apartment.

1073
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: And then it's just like dead silent. I wake up

1074
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: the next morning, I go in her room and I

1075
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: stand over her with my hands on my hips, and

1076
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: she goes, good money. I go, do you know what

1077
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: you said to me last night? And I tell her

1078
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: she felt so bad that she bought me in Einstein's

1079
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: bagel you paid for my breakfast that morning.

1080
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: I feel really bad, Like it's funny, but it's not.

1081
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: That's not Okay, I thought it was hysteria. That's funny.

1082
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: That's a funny story. But I I've heard it like

1083
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: I don't feel six times.

1084
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: She later took one for the team with like that guy.

1085
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Remember when I put the guy in your bed? I

1086
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: put the guy I put I put saint in your

1087
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: bed because the guy that I just like moved into

1088
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: the apartment. Oh yeah, came home and I was like,

1089
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: I hid this guy in Danielle's room. We can't have

1090
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: sex tonight because I already had sex with him. Wow,

1091
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm nam but a hope. It's fine. It's fine.

1092
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Speaker 2: You only live once. Yeah, and you feel like you're ready.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to repent. Okay, my cookie needs to

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Speaker 1: do the ripetta because.

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Speaker 2: She won't what she won't all gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was so much what a tangent of a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean I giggled a lot. I feel I do

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Speaker 2: feel like I did some d MT.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, thank you so much for listening to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Give Them whil A Podcast. I love you all.

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Speaker 1: Happy hump Day, Throw it back a drink for me.

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Speaker 1: If you don't drink, have some perier on my behalf.

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Speaker 1: I love you catch you next week.