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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: show that makes the square. Sharper makes the wise guys

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Speaker 1: pay attention. I am Chadmoman. I am joined by my bff,

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Speaker 1: my companion, my compadre, my co host, Professional Better, Simon

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Speaker 2: Simon Chad. How we doing, brother, my brother?

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Speaker 1: As you know, on Tuesday, I was recording the show

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Speaker 1: from my hotel in the city of Brotherly Love. Today

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Speaker 1: on during this book. This is our Thursday, Week twelve episode.

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Speaker 1: We're going to narrow down the options on our quest

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Speaker 1: to find our five favorite picks. We're inching our way closer. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: after Jamar Chase spit in Jalen Ramsey's face, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell, I'd have no message of someone spits in

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, producer, Matt Mitchell here, I'm sorry to jump in.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to call out this episode might sound

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Speaker 3: apparently in some flophouse outside of Pittsburgh, and there were

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Speaker 3: Definitely getting paid by the hour in the interest of

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Speaker 3: cleaning up that episode, so it didn't sound like you

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Speaker 3: So thank you for joining us and for bearing with us.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this thing. Every week, we

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Speaker 1: give out our picks. Every week, Simon's fellow program Gambler's

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Speaker 1: to summarize those opinions for us. Right now, it's time

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Speaker 1: Somebody say it maybe what to do?

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Speaker 4: I love Houston tonight, So I know we're not really

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Speaker 4: We got another game they're against me the Giants. Shockingly.

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Speaker 4: We just don't take big spreads like this because you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of crazy that I was not

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Speaker 2: So Joe Flacco is a point better than Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: It only moved the most books of seven and a

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Speaker 4: I just can't get over the fact that this Patriots team,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea it was gonna be Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: So I like this number. But again it's hard for

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Speaker 1: So we should be clear. Joe Burrow practice on Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: Again, everything I've read is he is it's Joe Brow's team.

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Speaker 2: No one saw oh and five coming this season.

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Speaker 4: That is again just like the ten and one was

439
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 4: way too far one way, the five is too far

440
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: the other ways. So you should start winning and stealing

441
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 4: these one score games. Like we just said, hard Rocks

442
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 4: are sharp book, they're at three. Every other book I'm

443
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Speaker 4: looking at right now is three and a half. So

444
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 4: we don't care if Mahomes went to one score game.

445
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Speaker 4: We're gonna be in that number most of the time

446
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 4: with a three and a half with a Colts that

447
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 4: it's fair to say they're just the better team. They're

448
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 4: playing like a better team right now. And I mean

449
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 4: with game we just moves all the Bears. You're doing

450
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: exactly what the Chiefs team can't do. They're closing out

451
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 4: games and stealing them at the end. Whatever it is.

452
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: The Chiefs just have not been able to do it

453
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Speaker 4: this year, and either in situationally just Mahomes.

454
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Speaker 2: Like you feel what I feel.

455
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: Anytime you see him get the ball back with time

456
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 4: on that clock, you expect them to drive the field

457
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Speaker 4: and score, and this year it's just not happened that way.

458
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: He just either goes threes an hour, they punt, or you.

459
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 4: Know, they don't get the whistles at a lot of

460
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 4: their games. It feels like they've been carried by the

461
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: whistle and the reugh right like they've had drives. They're

462
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 4: deader than dead. The reps give them a little bit

463
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 4: of life and then then Mahomes kicks it up at

464
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Speaker 4: a gear and they drive the field and get touchdown,

465
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Speaker 4: So you know that's another part of it. I just

466
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: think they've been in consistent. So you know, I read

467
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 4: some trends. There's somethings that really favorite this Colts team here,

468
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Speaker 4: especially at that three and a half number.

469
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a unique spot, right, it's a Chiefs team.

470
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Speaker 4: I think I have an amazing stat about this chief team.

471
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 4: Basically a team that's below or at five hundred favored

472
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Speaker 4: against a team like the Colts who's you know, above

473
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Speaker 4: a seventy percent win percentage. This unique spot for the Chiefs. Historically,

474
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: this team in the spot is twelve to zero against

475
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Speaker 4: the spread. So I know there are guys who'd like

476
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs here. They're saying the books are telling you something.

477
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 4: They're taking a stand with the books, the fact that

478
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Speaker 4: they are stupig favorite. And you know, Joe Public's gonna

479
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: look at this like I am looking at which like,

480
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 4: I just don't get this. The Culture are a much

481
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 4: better team. They've played better this season. Just throw out

482
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: the records, just on the field stuff. You think the

483
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 4: Culture are a better team. So I knew the Public

484
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 4: doll would be the Colts. It's nice to see it

485
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: has moved because that shows that professional money is coming

486
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Speaker 4: on this Colts team.

487
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Speaker 2: Like I told you, I.

488
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Speaker 4: Know plenty of professionals are staying with the books and they're

489
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Speaker 4: taking the Chiefs here. So like I've said, I just

490
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: think it's they're betting in line from the Chiefs of yesteryear,

491
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Speaker 4: not the Chiefs this year, which is a team that

492
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Speaker 4: just has not been great in one score games. I

493
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 4: still can't believe else that Broncos game, Like, I really

494
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 4: can't like it lined up so many ways you thought

495
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: they were gonna win and steal it and they just

496
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: can never get over that hump.

497
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Speaker 2: So yeah, the I get it.

498
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: Like the Chiefs, you want to bet their money line

499
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 4: because you just can't see them losing. That's safer to

500
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: me than take of them at the three or the

501
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: minus three and a half. So I just think we're

502
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Speaker 4: playing the number strictly three and a half. That's where

503
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: I got to be with this Colts team.

504
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Speaker 1: Chiefs on the money line is going to be part

505
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Speaker 1: of our money line parlay for sure. Cleveland at the

506
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. Look, I nearly made this Chad's choice

507
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday on Tuesday when it was Raiders at minus three.

508
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: It's now moved to three and a half. Should Door

509
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Speaker 1: Sanders is officially the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

510
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Speaker 1: You can give should or Sanders the benefit of the doubt,

511
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: if you want to be incredibly generous, right you can

512
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: say okay, you can say, okay, he's getting a full

513
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Speaker 1: week of practice, he's with the starters, all those opportunity unities.

514
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: But here's I think the problem with Shore Sanders, and

515
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: that isn't going to change because it was the same

516
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: thing in college. We saw the same thing in training camp.

517
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: We saw the same thing last week. The dude holds

518
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: the ball forever in the pocket, and he's not a

519
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: big scrambler, and they've got a lot of injuries on

520
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and on the other side is Max Crosby.

521
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Speaker 1: So I think there are just incredible advantages for this

522
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Speaker 1: Raiders team. Forget about the fact you're getting the Browns

523
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: on the road versus at home. I've gone through all

524
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Speaker 1: the numbers. They give up ten more points per game

525
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: on the road that they do at home. They give

526
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Speaker 1: up i think more rushing yards on the road than

527
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Speaker 1: they do at home. So it's not a great spot

528
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Speaker 1: for a Browns defense that just had a rock fight

529
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: of a game and didn't come out on top against

530
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Speaker 1: the Ravens Miles Garrett four sacks last week. But like

531
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Speaker 1: I know, we're afraid to bet on Gino, but we're betting.

532
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Speaker 1: Nothing in betting is perfect, right, you got to play

533
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: all of it, and I think that when you went,

534
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: when you stack up all the positives and all the negatives,

535
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: it's still a better game spot for the Raiders than

536
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: it is for the Browns.

537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just scared off by the number. It's just.

538
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: I'm betting in but it feels unnatural because it does

539
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: feel way too easy and as bad as you know is,

540
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Speaker 4: I just I still can't leave this open at two

541
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Speaker 4: and a half.

542
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Speaker 2: And like you said, we bet at two and a

543
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Speaker 2: half better at the three.

544
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Speaker 4: But I said them to the show, you have to

545
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Speaker 4: talk about it minus three and a half because that's

546
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Speaker 4: that's where it's going to be out for everybody. Yeah,

547
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: sure enough, that's I mean a little by the time

548
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: we post the show, that's where it was at. So

549
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I Vegas, Like you said, it's the

550
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: right side, We'll be on it, but I just see

551
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: a million different ways that we get burned by Gino.

552
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Speaker 4: But like you said, how does seniors move the ball

553
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Speaker 4: push it downfield? So like my way here would just

554
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 4: be what we see with Cleveland, right. They have a

555
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: really good run game that can mitigate bad quarterback play.

556
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: But if we can somehow get a lead and forced

557
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: Shador to have to pass, I think that's where they

558
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: could steal this game. So I'm backing with you, which

559
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: is of all my bets this week, I'm more so

560
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: like I've said, I'm heavy on the money line for

561
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: this Raiders team. I just I'm very aware of this

562
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: number at mines three and a half. It's just I'm

563
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: glad to see it's gone up to four, which shows

564
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: a professional money and the public are still betting three

565
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: and a half. But yeah, if we get to Sunday

566
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Speaker 4: and it's just still stuck here and mines three and

567
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: a half, I don't know if I can let us

568
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: put it in one over five.

569
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm super excited about this game. I love it,

570
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: Love love the Raiders here. The other game that I

571
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Speaker 1: love Jacksonville at Arizona. This was Chad's choice. I was

572
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Speaker 1: really and I gave it out. Chad's choices two and

573
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Speaker 1: a half, but I said on the show, be patient,

574
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: it's going to get to three. It just hadn't gotten

575
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: there yet. It is now a three, thank god. So

576
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Speaker 1: hopefully people who are paying attention they saw the line

577
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: move at to three middle of the day yesterday. I'm

578
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: really glad that it did. Marvin Harrison Junior is missing

579
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Speaker 1: the game with Jacoby Brissett, who just threw for forty

580
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: seven completions and Mike Wilson had one hundred and eighty

581
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Speaker 1: five yards. I don't think Jacoby Brissett cares that much

582
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: if Marvin Harrison is not playing Marvin Harrison Junior in

583
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: the same way that Kyler Murray would need to have

584
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: someone like Marvin Harrison Junior playing. But the truth is,

585
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm just fading the Jags here, and I'm betting. That's

586
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: much more what I'm doing than betting on the cards.

587
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: I know you love it when I geek out on

588
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: the numbers, so I'm sure you're familiar with Pythagorean wins,

589
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: which essentially like the number of wins a team is

590
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: supposed to have based on all of their underlying advanced

591
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: metrics that shows the true performance. It kind of takes

592
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the luck out of the game. It

593
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: just shows you, all right, if everything was equal, this

594
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: is how this team would be. This is what this

595
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: team's record would be. And of course when I look

596
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: at this, the Jags should have about one fewer win

597
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals should have one more win. So instead

598
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: of being a team that is like, what are the

599
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: cards three and seven, they should probably be closer to

600
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Speaker 1: four and six or five and five, And the Jags,

601
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: instead of being six and four, should probably be closer

602
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: to five and five. That's not how this game is lined.

603
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: This game is lined is that the Jags are a

604
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: much much better team. I don't see it that way.

605
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Give me the Cards plus three.

606
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it did move a little bit

607
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: because of the injuries that this Cardinals team has had

608
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: this week, where like you just said, their number one

609
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: receiver is not going to miss.

610
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 2: This game, and you know, it's once again a rotation

611
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: at their running back.

612
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: They might begain trade Benson back, which doesn't sound like

613
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: a big deal, but I like him.

614
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: I think he's an upgrade to the running back position

615
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: for them.

616
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Speaker 4: So you know, this Cardinals team, our biggest rate in

617
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: the day is can their defense get some stop, because

618
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: that's what I talked about, that.

619
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Speaker 1: Their defense has been getting worse every single week.

620
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Every week. Yeah, it's just been brutal. So that's like

621
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: my only real fear here.

622
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Speaker 4: But offensively, I love this match of Arizona. I just

623
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: think the Jags defense as great as they looked against

624
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: that Chargers team. I think that was all, you know,

625
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: just basically based on Herbert not adjusting to his offensive

626
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: line love injuries.

627
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: He just holds on. In my opinion, Herbert holds all

628
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the ball too long.

629
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Speaker 4: So I think Brissette in this matchup Bill take advantage

630
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: of this bad secondary of this Jacks team because be

631
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: about to remember, you know, even if Brian Toomps juniors

632
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 4: would come back in this game, he's not one hundred rights.

633
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: He's been banged up and he's been fight through Injews

634
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: all season. He's just not been that good. Mitch Trevor

635
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: Lawrence relationship this year has just not been good. And

636
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: I joked last year he had agree relationship with Mac Jones.

637
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he really shined with it. So it's not

638
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: it's not great with them. And we already know Travis

639
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: Hunters out for this one, so everything. If I get

640
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: Jacks took advantage of in that Chargers game, doesn't feel

641
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: like they'll be able to in this game. And we've

642
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: seen time and time again this Jags team on the

643
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: road as favorites, they've struggled this season. So you know,

644
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: like you said, yeah, we're playing the number here, there's

645
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: probably closer to a pick. We're taking the Cardinals at

646
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: a good number at plus three. But in this match

647
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: of it really is about fading Trevor Lawrence against this

648
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: Cardinals defense.

649
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: It feels like it's a better matchup for them.

650
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: They've had the last two weeks against really good, high

651
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: powered offenses.

652
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: You and I one hundred percent aligned on the Arizona Cardinals.

653
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: It always works out when we love a game this much,

654
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Speaker 1: Inevitably we get burned. So I can't wait to see

655
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Speaker 1: how he gets screwed on Sunday. And I know it's

656
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Speaker 1: going to be the game that we're waiting for it

657
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: to end before we go on the air, And I'm

658
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: going to take that long, dark, cold walk up to

659
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: my third floor and I'm just gonna have to answer

660
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: for this, and I'm already miserable about it, but I

661
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. I'm ready.

662
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: I love the.

663
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals this week, all right, it's a little tricky

664
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta at New Orleans. The New Orleans Saints or one

665
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites right now. Simon took us

666
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: a minute, but our brass ball got to do a

667
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: quasim in a hotel. Brass Balls Bet of the Week

668
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: presented by Hard Rock Bet. It's gonna be the New

669
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints minus one and a half.

670
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: You know what it takes. It takes brass balls.

671
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: Here's how I finally came to it. No Drake London,

672
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: he's kind of their entire offense. No Michael Pennix, who

673
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: heartbreaking that he's got a torn acl and needs to

674
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: have that repaired. Kirk Cousins like this game is ugly.

675
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: It's not because we all of a sudden are going

676
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: back to our Oh the Saints are competitive. It's not

677
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: because we think Tyler Shock is all of a sudden

678
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: the good quarterback. It's not of any of those things.

679
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: To me.

680
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: It's only a bet against Kirk Cousins, a bet against

681
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: the fact they don't have Drake London, and I think

682
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: it's going to be really hard for them to move

683
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the ball.

684
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and hopefully people can get this before it moves

685
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: to too A hard rock in Jersey here just moves

686
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: to to while we're doing this live, honestly, and a

687
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: lot of them, so two real public books out there

688
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: are still at the one and a half, which I

689
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: hope people can get.

690
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: But talk a little bit about it, like this is

691
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: a split game.

692
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: I know some pros who every time it touches too

693
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: they're going to take Atlanta, And on the flip side

694
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: of the Saints, every time it's at this number minus

695
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 4: one and a half, every probably know he's gonna take

696
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: the Saints. So it's been really fun where it's a

697
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: lot of back and forth and it's really about what

698
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: you just said. Atlanta, they're not that bad of a team,

699
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: Like if you go through all out of their games,

700
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean, they could have beat the Patriots, they could

701
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: have beat the Colts right like those are would have

702
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: had huge, massive wins that could have really flipped their season.

703
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: But they've struggled in those close one score games. And

704
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: I do put that on the coaching. So I don't

705
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: think Kirk is an upgrade the penix and he said

706
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: the number one weapon on that team is going to

707
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: be out as well.

708
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: Drake London, So I can't believe.

709
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: We talked a little bit on Tuesday about and I

710
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: gave out all this Kirk stats, how horrible he's been

711
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: once you really dive into it though, and the injuries

712
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: this this team has had, Atlanta, how do you not

713
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: love the Saints heres? So I'm glad to see it's

714
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: moving it to at least it shows me that real

715
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: money is coming in heavily finally on the Saints team,

716
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: which to me makes sense. So I hope, I hope

717
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: people can get the one and a half here when

718
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: they hear it, because we talked all the time about

719
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: key number two is this is also a game where

720
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: I might throw a little bit on the adjusted line.

721
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: Like again, Kirk Cousins might be done, done, done, and

722
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: this could be a really good match for them where

723
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: they just know all if you do is take away

724
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: the run and just put it all on the Kirk's

725
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: arm and see if you can beat you that way,

726
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: which again we've talked to Saints our veteran defense, they

727
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: have the guys that probably can do that in the

728
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: middle take away their run. So yeah, it's it's a

729
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: game that we tried to find a game we both

730
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: agreed on it. I feel like it's the one we

731
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: really agreed on together that we both love.

732
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Speaker 1: Yep, totally. Uh, Philadelphia Dallas. Dallas is now a three

733
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: point dog. It was four and a half early in

734
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: the week. You were hammering it at foreign and a half.

735
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: By Tuesday it was down to three. There are places

736
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: where it moved back up to three and a half,

737
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: and I wondered how you felt about that, because when

738
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Tuesday, you were anxious that

739
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: it was going to keep moving and then all of

740
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: a sudden you'd have to be betting on the Eagles

741
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: at under three. It's gone back up. I think there's

742
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: a lot of sentiment out there that whatever is plaguing

743
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles offense is going to be a challenge for them.

744
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: And even if they think the Eagles are going to win,

745
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: and we'll probably end up having the Eagles in our

746
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: moneyline parlay, it's going to be hard for them to

747
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: cover a big number against this Dallas offense.

748
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: I think we might have to skip it. No Monylam

749
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: parlay chat. It's really Yeah. The Cowboys approached the end

750
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: zone like a team.

751
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: Attending a buffet supper sampling a wide range of delights

752
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: before finishing the media.

753
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: I told you for the show, a group I really respect,

754
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: it's really respected in the industry, has put north of

755
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: seven figures into this Cowboys team at the three and

756
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: a half and at the four at the four and

757
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: a half. So, like you just said, there's tons of

758
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: three and a half's out there if you want to

759
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: join a really smart group. And you know, I thought

760
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: I was gonna be on Dallas. It was like, Okay,

761
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: I'll bet Dallas this week. It's a good number, divisional

762
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: matchup home dog. We talked, you know, game one of

763
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: the year, the biggest strength of the Dallas team was

764
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: going to be the number two receiver and pickings against

765
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: a bad corner on the Eagles. Little do we know,

766
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: pickens are gonna be like what the number one receiver

767
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: this year, a number two stat wise behind the guy

768
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: up in Seattle. So you know, I can't get over

769
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: this matchup as an Eagles fan. I just don't get

770
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: what they're Seenior. I can't believe as an Eagles fan

771
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: they're saying We're gonna lose this game to the Cowboys.

772
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I really can't.

773
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: So I have zero dollars invest in this Egles money line.

774
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: I've taken a position on the Cowboys money line here,

775
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: and just I guess I'll trust the number. And these

776
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: really smart professionals here, they're telling me this is an

777
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: incredible spot for this Cowboys team. And you know, again,

778
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 4: Kevin petulu O see of this Eagles team. I still

779
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: a report that he's getting looks at being a head

780
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: coach candidate next year, and it makes me want to

781
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: rip my head out. It's like, what am I missing here?

782
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: I just everything feels so dysfunctional, these Egos offense. This

783
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 4: is where I feel like this Cowboys team can maybe

784
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: taking advantage of the fact that their offense is clicking.

785
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: On the flip side, this Eagles offense just seems so congested.

786
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: And you know, we've seen the upgrades THATX Cowboys made

787
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: to their defense between trading and getting guys back healthy.

788
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: You know, obviously this is not the Raiders offense, but

789
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: it feels like they can stop a the functional Eagles

790
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: team right now, which I think the Eagles need.

791
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: They need it. They it feels like they need.

792
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: To lose a game to correct some of their woes

793
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 4: right now, because as likely it's been to keep winning,

794
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: and as much hate as I want to give this

795
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: guy Kevin, his offense doesn't turn the bull over and

796
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: they keep winning.

797
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's a weird spot where I just it.

798
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: Feels like the public and the professionals are aligning on

799
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: this Cowboys team because of all the outside noise, and

800
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: it's like, is this not moved too much?

801
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: So, like I said, if it gets a two and

802
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: a half.

803
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: On the Eagles, I'm not going to take it now

804
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: because I respect this group so much, but I feel

805
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: like this is such an overreaction.

806
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: This numbers move so much.

807
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: So once again, get to three and a half the three,

808
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell people to take the Cowboys here,

809
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 4: but at three and a half, I do think that's

810
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 4: a really strong number where really swarm money's back.

811
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: In that number.

812
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm surprised to hear you say that that is new

813
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: news since the Tuesday show, so obviously you've gotten some

814
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: intel on this, this syndicate that's betting pig money on

815
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think if the Eagles off, it truly

816
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: pains me.

817
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're going to lose this game to

818
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. But that's what guys are telling me. They're like, dude,

819
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: this is a trap, a bad spot for this Eagles team.

820
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: They're walking right into it.

821
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Well, look, if the Eagles offensive Cornator is all of

822
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's news about him getting looks as head.

823
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Coach, I thinktrolling me.

824
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I swear that's just his agent who's really good planting, planting,

825
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: planting with some friendlies.

826
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: That's right, that's true.

827
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all that is. There's no one who's

828
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: really serious about that Tampa Bay at the Los Angeles Rams,

829
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: this one is moving towards seven. It's at six and

830
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: a half. I just can't not like the Bucks here.

831
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: And I know we're on opposite sides because I think

832
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Baker started scrambling. I think Sean Tucker has taken on

833
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: some of the responsibilities that came with Bucky Irving. So

834
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: it's taken the pressure and the load off of Rashad White.

835
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: If you look at Seattle, I said this earlier in

836
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: the show, they still almost won that game against the Rams,

837
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: even after four Sam Darnold interceptions. What does that tell

838
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: you about either the Rams' ability to be effective offensively,

839
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: What does it tell you about the play calling, what

840
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: does it tell you about their defense? And maybe there

841
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: are some holes that you can take advantage of, Like

842
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: the Bucks also nearly covered against the Bills. They were

843
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: five minutes away from winning that game until Josh Allen

844
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: went into superhuman mode. So I know we've been burned

845
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. I'm still having better. I'm waiting for

846
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: it to get to seven. I think it's going to

847
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: get there, and when it does, I'm gonna have to

848
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: bet the Bucks.

849
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: I know, I get what you're coming from. By just

850
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think this Bucks team is

851
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: good the public.

852
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: Like I went back and rewatched that game, and you're

853
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 4: you're honestly making a bet strictly on Baker having magic

854
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: and keeping this game close. But these injuries have caught

855
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: up to them offensively, like him not having all of

856
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: his guys.

857
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: It's a real issue. As great as a Mecca.

858
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 4: Buka has been, you've seen teams be able to adjust

859
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: to him because it's again a first year player. There's

860
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: only so many good things he's gonna be able to do.

861
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: He's very raw, right, So say he's incredible running these

862
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: They've literally just been dropping a linebacker every time under

863
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: coverage into his routes. So now he's had to really

864
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: go downfield more, which again Bakers in mind pushing the

865
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: ball downfield, but they're just gonna have a safety or

866
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: top of them the whole time. Like you just know

867
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: you have to double with Mecha, Buca, everyone else you're

868
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: gonna be able to do one on ones with. Right,

869
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: You're getting guys off the street here for this Bucks team,

870
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: which you know Baker can make magic. Like you said,

871
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: there is a world where he can make this the

872
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: game and cover this number, because we've seen that with Baker,

873
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: like he just never gives.

874
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: Up that Bills game. Like we said that three and out,

875
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: that's why you lost that cover at the end of

876
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: the game. If Baker doesn't go three and out there

877
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: and does what he had been doing, Drave if at

878
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: least gets you a field goal there, it's a totally

879
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: different situation. You probably do cover that number.

880
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: But three and out Josh Allen was on a mission,

881
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: gets the ball back, went right down the field scored again.

882
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: So looking here, Chad, I think the professionals view it

883
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: as why this number is going up to seven. It's

884
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: just that I don't think they're gonna get Bucky back.

885
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: To me, that's a big deal. This Rams team, as

886
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: bad as they looked last week. This this has to

887
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: be an exactly exactly get right spot for this Rams

888
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: offense against a bad Bucks defense. Right, Seattle's defense kind

889
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: of not put Stafford in his place. But we were saying,

890
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: I think he still is an MVP favorite, but he

891
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: did not play at MVP level there. We talked about

892
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: he had fifty completions. He totally burned us in a

893
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: game his team gets four picks. We should have covered

894
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: that number of a million different ways. He couldn't get

895
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: his team in field goal range. I mean, like you said,

896
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: they scored that fourteen in the first quarter with five

897
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: minutes to go. He only scored seven the rest of

898
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: the game. So for a Stafford, this offensive feels get

899
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: get right spot. And yeah, we're just on opposite side.

900
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: You like the Bucks, But I don't think he'll take

901
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: the Bucks here a minus six and a half, I

902
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: think you'll just or plus six and a half, you'll

903
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: just wait grab the seven where on the Rams. If

904
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: you're getting this now, I would take the six and

905
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: a half now, because I only think this goes up.

906
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: I just don't see it coming down, just because I

907
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: think Bucky will be out. We'll have God went out,

908
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: and we'll see who they get back to the offensive

909
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: line for this Bucks team.

910
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: But just so many injuries to this team. Baker go

911
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: only handles so much.

912
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Caroline plus seven at San Francisco. Why

913
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: aren't we betting Carolina here? You know, Bryce Young against

914
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: this defense. I know that everybody wants to say that

915
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: the Niners are back with Brock Purty. Seven just feels

916
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: like a huge, huge, huge, huge number us for a

917
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Panthers team that continues to find ways to not just

918
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: cover and win. They're doing the same things they did

919
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: last year. They're building momentum in the second half. They're

920
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: taking big chances. I know you hated the chances they

921
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: took on Sunday and Dave canalyis was your shame? Shame, shame,

922
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: But it just feels like this Panthers team is too

923
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: competitive and this number is too big, and everyone is

924
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: forgetting that this Niners defense is just not very good.

925
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: They're wide open and vulnerable to what Bryce Young likes

926
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: to do and how Dave Canalis likes to call plays.

927
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: I know, but like I keep saying, there has to

928
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: be something we are missing here because this line does

929
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 4: not make sense at all. No sense in the books

930
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: are telling us that Bryce Shung is going to lay

931
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: in the here, that's what they're saying to us. But

932
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: we have all this data that shows this Niners team

933
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 4: just they have letdown games after big wins, and they've

934
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: done so the last year and a half with whether

935
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 4: it's been Brock pretty Er, mac Jones, it doesn't matter

936
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: who the quarterback has been. That that's been consistent. They

937
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: are one in fourteen against the spread after or win.

938
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't get this line at all.

939
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: Like you've said, this Carolina team, they have the guys

940
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: that keep up with this offense. You know, we know

941
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 4: their defense is going to struggle in the forty nine

942
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: is going to get this, but we expect the Panthers

943
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: to keep up.

944
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: And this is seven and a half of two different

945
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: books here in Jersey Jet.

946
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

947
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: It's minus one twenty five and minus one twenty at

948
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: both of them. But I mean, I'm very tempted to

949
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: put a large wager on this Panthers team.

950
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

951
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be cautious here because there's just

952
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 4: something I'm missing. My model's totally off and I'm totally off.

953
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: I just do not get the number at all. So, yeah,

954
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: this every every book I've talked to has said the

955
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: majority of the money they've taken so far he has

956
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: been Panthers, which to me makes sense, Like the public

957
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: is with us.

958
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: They've seen Bryce Young what he's done.

959
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 4: And you know, Atlanta, like we just said they're potentially

960
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: a really bad team and we've overvalued them. And you know,

961
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: any defense that just gave up four hundred fifty yards

962
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: or Bryce Young, we can say is a bad defense.

963
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: But I don't know, like we said this for and

964
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 4: Ers team with their injuries, they're not that much better,

965
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: Like they really aren't.

966
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: So I don't get it. Chat, I just do not

967
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: get this line at all. And I'm with you. I

968
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: am all over this Panthers one.

969
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to be cautious because it feels way

970
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: too easy and I'm missing something Like again, it.

971
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: Feels a couple a couple of lines this week feel really.

972
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: Interesting where they've they've moved and this is one of

973
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: those games where this was six and a half, it's

974
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: gone to seven, and now it's trending towards seven and

975
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: a half, so be careful. We'll talk more about it Sunday,

976
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: where once I get more from because it is the

977
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: money night game.

978
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, as we say here right now, I really

979
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: really like the Panthers number.

980
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: I do too. The games that we know we'll be

981
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: talking about on Sunday either because of Liones, because games

982
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: we like now because of injury news. We're going to

983
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
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984
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: Steelers because we're waiting to find out about Aaron Rodgers.

985
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Seattle. We'll probably talk about Cincy. Yeah,

986
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: because of Joe Burrow. We're going to talk about the Raiders.

987
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Cardinals, the Saints, Geez Dallas.

988
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: Caroline Like, it's going to be hard to narrow these

989
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,000
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990
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a fun week for sure.

991
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,200
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's all depend on the number.

1033
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: Like again, I'm pretty heavy on Detroit obviously, people know

1034
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 4: that minus ten and a half minus ten, I've really

1035
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 4: taken a big position on that one since I'm getting there, people,

1036
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,799
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1037
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Colts plus three and a half and you know, probably

1038
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: not that shock any people. Cowboys plus three and a half,

1039
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 4: I've taken a pretty big position. So I'm being patient

1040
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: on the Rams and the Panthers and see where that

1041
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: number goes. But those could end up being pretty big

1042
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: bets of mine as well.

1043
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: It worries me that my biggest bets so far this

1044
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: week are not on your list, the Raiders and the Cardinals.

1045
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 4: I'm invested heavily in the Raiders' money line, but yeah,

1046
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: I'm just I don't know.

1047
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: Something about that number just scares me a little bit.

1048
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: All right, Well, now I'm scared that you're not aligned

1049
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: with what I'm doing. Let's talk about some parlays here.

1050
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Let's choose three underdog parlay is because I know we've

1051
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: got probably five parlays that we really like for the

1052
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: favorites underdogs.

1053
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: My dog blocks your dog. Your dog blocks my dog.

1054
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: I could see Cincy, you know, if it's Joe Burrow, like,

1055
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't doesn't terribly scare.

1056
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: Me, all right, do Cincy? Dallas? Yeah, Pittsburgh plus one

1057
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: twenty five. Yeah, it's not terrible, dude. Cardinals, Cardinals, all right.

1058
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: I compan that they're they're plus one forty.

1059
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona, all right, the favorites. We're definitely gonna go

1060
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Oh yeah, we're gonna go with the Saints.

1061
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: What about Kansas City?

1062
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do it.

1063
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: Kansas City.

1064
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think them being five and

1065
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: six is very real.

1066
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Raiders Saints, Kansas City.

1067
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: I want to do se Yeah, well yeah, do some

1068
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: adjusted lines do uh, Seattle minus five and a half?

1069
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: Okay, Seattle minus five and a half.

1070
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: Let's do one. How can we not take Packers?

1071
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, take the Packers.

1072
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: I mean they if I get it's it's a divisional game,

1073
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: things do happen. But my god, they've they've lost so

1074
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: many bad games this yere. They can't drop another one

1075
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: at home in the spot.

1076
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: All right, sharp versus square, give me your thoughts here.

1077
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: You can go first. Since you were at Carolina last

1078
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: week and I did not.

1079
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean I would do Dallas plus three and a

1080
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: half Hard Rocks unfortunately three.

1081
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: I'll do uh Colts plus three and a half Cold

1082
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: plus three. Leaking confidence. As I said, you are a

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Speaker 2: leaking a little. I feel much shafe for doing Dallas

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Speaker 2: plus three and a half.

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Speaker 1: But I'll give you Dallas three and a half. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of been there all week.

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Speaker 2: And you can get Dallas. Yeah, it's had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of main books.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get Dallas three and a half pretty

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Speaker 1: much anywhere. I'm down to Sinci in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Do Vegas? You love it?

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Speaker 1: I do love Vegas. I'll take minus three trying to

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Speaker 1: get you off of it. You love it, I love

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Speaker 1: the I love the Raiders. I love it all right.

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Speaker 4: And then survivor just real quick, as people always ask,

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Speaker 4: you can't go wrong with these still with digitalgs people,

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Speaker 4: if you still have Seahawks, you still have lines, you

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Speaker 4: still have Ravens, just use them. If not, if you're

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Speaker 4: really stuck, if you still somehow still have Green Bay,

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Speaker 4: use them. If you still somehow have the Rams, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't waste them on the books. Your books are easily

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Speaker 4: win that game. So there's a bunch of options there.

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Speaker 4: I just wouldn't force in big favorites of the Rams

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Speaker 4: or or the forty nine ers. The four Niners could

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Speaker 4: lose that game as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, this has been Sharper Square, part of the

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Speaker 1: Volume podcast network. We will be back on Shrepper Square

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Speaker 1: Love you.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's time to take a step forward.

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Speaker 1: We gotta put something together. Back to back.

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Speaker 4: Let's go