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Evan, how could it be? 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Gents? 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: How is Ashton Genty gonna make dudes missing the backfield. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: Run and run right behind Morgan? Moses? 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: Okay, and so the backside is just gonna have no 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: factor on the play. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: Like you build that wall behind you know how to 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: do it? Mean tweets, I would. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 5: Call them mean. 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 6: That's so. 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Maybe some of them are, but I call them more angry. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Delete this and fire whoever Mike is. Mike is an idiot, 21 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: just straight to the point. You know, I will commit 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: seppooko at the lighthouse if that happens. Never associate with 23 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Mike again. Mike, who This is worse than drafting Sony 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: Michelle in the first round. Best mak I've ever seen. 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: Well done, Genty is the only choice at the first thing. 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 7: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals, buy a Toyota 28 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 7: dot com Filtered. 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: It is Thursday here at jo Lett Stadium and we're 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: talking still free agency. I want to talk about this 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: Mark Daniels report, a little bit that came out. Did 32 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: you hear about this? No, just want to discuss it. 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: I think it was Mark. It's one of Evans guys. Well, 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. I want to talk about that. 35 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the most recent signings. Uh, 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: the linebacker lead and Bradbury the center. 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: What's that kind of burrying the lead here a little bit? 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: What's that There's somebody visiting here today that's a pretty 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: big name. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Von Diggs. We'll talk about that as well. So as 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: we said, you know, we're far from a completed roster 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: and he won't even be there and we'll be in 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: August and still talking about some transactions. But things are 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: still moving. So I guess we could start with reaction 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: to the report about Stefan Diggs deuce. 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great player. A lot of action 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: on Twitter For me last night, I felt like it 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: might be deuce against the world. But I'm gonna say, Look, 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say too much because they haven't signed him. 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: He's visiting, but I'm just curious what they're interested in him. 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: Is he's coming off an ACL injury. Does he want 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: to sign up here for a couple of years? Is 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: is Stefan Diggs, you know, want to come to New England. 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: It seems a little bit of a I guess a 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: stretch to me, just that you know, he was looking 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: for a title, going from you know, good team to 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: good team. Right now, Patriots in are a different place. 58 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: I don't think a one year deal with Stefan Diggs 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: makes sense. Probably gonna start on the pup list. 60 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: So he's only he's four and a half months away 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: from his injury. 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, not I mean from his surgery. 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So it's gonna be. 64 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: A little while. But look, I I won't overreact, and 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: I know I have, you know, establish feelings on him. 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: But he's he's an outstanding player. He's a number one. 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: He runs routes like nobody's business. Was on track to 68 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: a great year last year. So we'll see if they 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: sign him. And you know, I have my other thoughts 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: about So. 71 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: The first thing most of the tweets that I saw were, oh, 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: I thought they were interested in culture, is like, but 73 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: you talked to his teammates, and his teammates really liked him. 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Buffalo obviously had a tough falling out there and 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: with Josh Allen and Buffalo, But we talked about a 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: little bit. I want to say last week, when it 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: wasn't Chris Godwin, wasn't DK Metcalf and one of these 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: aging star receivers, whether it was Stefan Diggs, Cooper Cup, 79 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: Mariy Cooper, you know, one of these types of guys, 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: I felt like they just had to take a chance 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: on one of these players and hope that they find 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: a fout in the youth and and they can still 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: play and play at a high level. Just the ceiling 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: of adding Stefan Diggs and if he's the guy he 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: was last year in Houston, when he comes back from 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: the injury for a team like the Patriot, that's a 87 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: worthwhile flyer to take. That's a worthwhile risk to take 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: that he's going to bounce back from the injury. So 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: given their cap situation, given the need at the position, 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: like I just don't know how you could be against it, Like, yeah, 91 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: they're risks, you know, involved Absolutely, I'm not so worried 92 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 4: about the locker room, but in terms of the injury 93 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: in the age, that's a risk. But they're kind of 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: in the position where they need to take a risk 95 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: like that. 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: At this position, I agree, they have money, you know, 97 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: and that's the thing that probably intrigues Stefon Diggs. May 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: he perhaps more than anything. 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Else, you know, how much of it do you want 100 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: to give to him? 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's a question. And I mean i'd 102 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: love to if he did sign here. Hear his pitch 103 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: to why he was interested, and certainly I think we 104 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: could all be buttered up by I'm really interested to 105 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: play with Drake. I think he's got some great talent. 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: I want to help him, you know, get to the 107 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: next level like I did with Josh. I think those 108 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: things are all as. 109 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: Long as it doesn't prohibit them from doing something else anywhere, 110 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: whether it's tackle or another what they're not whatever, you know, 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: take a shot. 112 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's at this point they got more 113 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: like and I think the NFL's kind of like this 114 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: right now, Like it feels like they have more money 115 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: than they can spend, like, they have more cap space 116 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: than they realistically can a lot to the players that 117 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: are available and the players that are on their team 118 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: that might need extensions at this point. 119 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: So it's, well, that's where I'm coming out from. It's like, 120 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: what's the worst case scenario? The worst case scenario is 121 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: that he can't play anymore, right, he doesn't bounce back 122 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: from the knee, he can't play anymore, and then you 123 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: cut ties and you move on after twenty twenty five. 124 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: And for a team that has a lot of cap 125 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: space that the projection numbers right now are all kind 126 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: of weary because we don't have all the details of 127 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: contracts and things like that, but they have plenty of 128 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: cap space. So that's your worst case scenario is that 129 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: you took a chance and it didn't work out, and 130 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: so then you move on. I mean, that's the chance 131 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: you have to take, and you're in this position. I 132 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 4: think the only thing that I hesitate with it on 133 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: is like, does that now make them say, well, we 134 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: don't need to draft a receiver because we have Stefan 135 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: Diggs and you know, Matt Collins, and like we have 136 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: our receiver additions like I would still hope that they 137 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: were going to take another swing receiver in the draft, 138 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: at least. 139 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: I think this prit says they won't, right, that would 140 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: be the only reason why, and especially with the injury. 141 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he's going to be 142 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: ready in September. 143 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they you know right now. I mean Kendrick Bourne 144 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: tore his acl right around the same time two years 145 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 4: ago as Diggs did this past year. And Bourne played 146 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: twelve games for the Patriots last year, So you're talking 147 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: about missing the first month of the season, right mostly. 148 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: So I again, if this as long as this doesn't 149 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: prohibit them from doing anything else, then why not now. 150 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Tommy Current, I don't know if he was specifically talking 151 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: about Diggs, but a few days ago on his podcast, 152 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: he was talking about the Patriots are worried about bringing 153 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: a receiver onto the team that's going to demand the 154 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: ball and what effect that's going to have on Drake May. 155 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where he's getting that from. I don't 156 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: know if it's something that he just heard or someone 157 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: actually from the team told him that. I find that 158 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: a little bit. 159 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: Well, they were supposed to believe, yeah, they we supposed 160 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: to in on DK Metcalf too. Yeah, you know. So 161 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: so I don't. 162 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: Know the credibility of like who told him that or 163 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: if it's just something someone's thinking, if it's a true concern. 164 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: But if it's true, I don't like it. But I 165 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: have a hard time believing that Elliott Wolf or Mike 166 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: Vrabel or Josh McDaniel. That's a fear, you know, because like, okay, again, 167 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: if you've got to if you've got if you've got 168 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: the guy, he can handle. 169 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 8: That, you know. 170 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: And also do you have the volume to give to 171 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: a receiver like you have the targets to give to 172 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: the guy. So I don't imagine once he gets healthy, 173 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: as Stefan Diggs is going to be starving for targets 174 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: in this offense, Like he's going to be the guy. 175 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: He's going to get force fed the ball if anything. 176 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: But we were talking on catch twenty two about uh 177 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Luther Burden who is falling out of the first round 178 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: and a lot of mock drafts, and most people assume 179 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: that it has to do with what went on at 180 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: Miszoo last year for him, where he had some of 181 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: these sideline antics, you know, Odell Beckham type blow ups 182 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and that is maybe turn some 183 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: people off. But my take on it was just if 184 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: I was Mike Rabel, like you're a culture guy, Like, 185 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: don't you just trust in yourself and trust in the 186 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: program that you're going to be able to bring a 187 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: guy like that along and keep that a guy like 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: that on the rails, Like I would almost rather him 189 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: take that approach and that say no, I'll take care 190 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: of it, you know, like maybe. 191 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 9: He's been humbled in the last year. You know, you 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 9: have an injury like that. Clearly there's not like a 193 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 9: crazy market to sign him, like not to say he's 194 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 9: damaged goods right now, but I don't know, Like life 195 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 9: has a way of humbling you sometimes, and if you 196 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 9: come into a new culture with a new mindset, it's 197 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 9: kind of hard to rule out and say he's just 198 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 9: going to come in and be a diva. 199 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: That's a great point. I mean he's out there, no 200 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: one signed him yet, so maybe he has, you know, 201 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: come down a little bit. And I think, like you 202 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: said with Rabel, you set that expectation that they want, Hey, 203 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: we want you here, but you know, our main you 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: have to is to win football games, not get Stefan 205 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: Diggs his numbers. As long as you're up, you know, 206 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: we believe that getting you balls is going to help 207 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: us win. But there might be some games where it's 208 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: run first. 209 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard to believe. 210 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: You set that expectation up front. 211 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 9: It's hard to believe Raebel would let a player like 212 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 9: walk all over him like that. You like, it's just 213 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 9: not hard to believe, it's inconceivable. 214 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 215 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: I like that the infrastructure they've added, and I think 216 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: you know, all four of those guys that we met 217 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: last week and the press conferences just came off as 218 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: outstanding members of the team. And I am very interested 219 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: in what Alice said. I I am a little skeptical 220 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: that he tours ACL and now he's humbled. But maybe 221 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: the interest on the market has humbled him a little bit, 222 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: and that's why he's That's what I'm But I think 223 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: if he was healthy, there's no question he's a number one. 224 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: He's the best available wide receiver. 225 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 9: And there's a whole narrative out about him now, like 226 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 9: the way it ended in Buffalo. So it's like, is 227 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 9: that a reputation he wants and he thinks is fair? 228 00:09:59,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: Me? 229 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 10: He wants to do everything he can to overcome that reputation, 230 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 10: you know. 231 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he wants the narrative to be look 232 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: what I did when I came to Buffalo for josh Allah. 233 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean that is the narrative for a 234 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: lot of people. And maybe he looks at Drake May 235 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: and says, I'll do the same thing. Right, I'm a 236 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 4: little older, but I'll come in and you know, we'll 237 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: get Drake Mada where we got josh Allen, you know, right, 238 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: Josh Allen twenty nineteen was his second year, had a 239 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: really good year. They went ten and six. They get 240 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: Stefon Diggs there and the AFC Championship Game the next year, 241 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: right like that, and he was the best receiver in 242 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: football in his first year in Buffalo. I'm not saying 243 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: he's gonna put up fifteen hundred yards with the Patriots, 244 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: but you look at what he did for Alan and 245 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: there's no doubt that it was a big part of that. 246 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's on the table. And then I mentioned, 247 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: now I could be wrong. I thought it was Mark 248 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: Daniels had a report about at least a handful of 249 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: tackles that the Patriots took swings at in Kenya short 250 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: well so far in the offseason, and of course the 251 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: outrage followed. You know, what are they doing? Why can't 252 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: they know? Why are they cheaping out on these people? 253 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know the details of each one and 254 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: exactly why it flew under the radar, you know, because 255 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: at the time, obviously when they were showing interest and 256 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: negotiating with these people and their agents, we didn't hear 257 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: about it. So this is all after the fact stuff. 258 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: But what do you think. I just I don't know 259 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: much more. 260 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: You can ask for them, like they are in on 261 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: everybody that they should be in on, going back to 262 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: last year with the receivers that they were in on. 263 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: They're not going to get everybody. They're a bad team 264 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: the last two years. They need to get the momentum 265 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: going again. Not everyone's going to want to come here, 266 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: even if they're going to get a big pay bump. 267 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: But the fact that they're you know, showing interest in 268 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I know all these reports you can probably 269 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: say some of them maybe are true. I don't know 270 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: exactly what the true scenario is are they in on? 271 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: But it sure sounds like any receiver, any tackle anybody 272 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: who hits the market, they're at least reaching out. 273 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: It's not like they're signing on their hands and define interest, 274 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: because interest could simply be talking to the agents. You know, 275 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: here's here's kind of where we go. You know, what 276 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: are you asking for this type of thing. There's varying 277 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: degrees of interest. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's the interest 278 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: that you show in uh, you know some of the 279 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: guys that you know, we brought in last week. And 280 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: then there's you know, casual interest just hey, we're doing 281 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: our due diligence. So I don't know the level of 282 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: interest that they had. But if it did come down 283 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: to money, if the reason why they missed on any 284 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: one of these guys was purely money, how do you 285 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: feel about that? 286 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 4: Well, it depends on the player. Like you know, I 287 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: wrote something today about the offensive line and Dan Moore Junior, 288 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: in my mind, got the worst contract in free agency. 289 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: The Titans are paying him twenty million dollars a year 290 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: to play left tackle. He gave up the most sacks 291 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: in the league last year in Pittsburgh, So that to 292 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: me was a horrible contract by Tennessee. But that doesn't 293 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: mean you know that the Patriots were in I don't 294 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: know that was the reporting. I think from Mark and 295 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: other people that they showed us some interest in Dan 296 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: Moore Junior. But I have no problem what's ever with 297 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: them tapping out on that one and saying, we're not 298 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: going to pay this guy twenty million dollars a year. 299 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 3: You know. 300 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: Jalen Moore is the other big one that went from 301 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: San Francisco to the Chiefs, and he's been a spot 302 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: starter for San Francisco and Trent Williams is in and 303 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: out of the lineup. He has been starting at left tackle, 304 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: so over four years in San Francisco, he has twelve 305 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: starts under his belt, so he is definitely not a 306 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: short things. Has some really good tape, but it's not 307 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: you know, there's not a lot of volume there with him. 308 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: So those are the two top left tackles that have 309 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: moved so far, and both those guys have real question 310 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: marks at the position. So I don't know if the 311 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: Patriots were in a position to pay a guy starter 312 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: money that's only started twelve games in his career over 313 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: four years, like they the Chiefs can take that chance. 314 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: You know, they have a little bit of that built 315 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: up equity, but I don't know if the Patriots do. 316 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: I think the one that you second guess a little 317 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: bit is Cam Robinson. And there's conflicting reports about whether 318 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: or not they were in on Cam Robinson. Some people 319 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: say yes, some people say no. But he signed a 320 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: one year, twelve and a half million dollar deal with 321 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: the Texans. There wasn't a great market for him. Some 322 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: people thought he was going to cash in. He did not. 323 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: The Patriots as a stopgap, as a bridge to a 324 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: rookie made a lot of sense for them, but he 325 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: picked to go to Houston. 326 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: Got a wonder with Doug Maron being here that I 327 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: just think he's a great example of a lot of 328 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: what we deal with in free agency. When a guy 329 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: has a name, no matter how good he was or 330 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: wasn't last season. You know his name, maybe he was 331 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: a former first round pick. People are just make it happen. 332 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: Make it happen. He must be good because he has 333 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: I know his name, right, but you don't know. I mean, 334 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: speak left it in the content speaking of someone whose 335 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: name we know. 336 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: I would sign Tyron Smith, not necessarily to be a starter, 337 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: to be the left tackle on Day one, but to 338 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: be a guy on your depth chart who can play 339 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: left or right side as tackle, has a lot of 340 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: veteran experience. Guys are gonna get hurt, you know, Morgan 341 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Moses might miss a few games. Whoever where you bring 342 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: in at left tackle might miss. And having Tyron Smith 343 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: and I think the money wouldn't be crazy having me 344 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: having an on your team gives me a level of 345 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: security to have that type of experience on my on 346 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: my bench. I think it's worth doing. He's out there. 347 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been. 348 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: And if he has to start day one, he can 349 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: start day one. 350 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he can still start. I mean he 351 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: was a starter, ving starter caliber player for the Jets 352 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: last year at left tackle. Uh, he's still a good player. 353 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: I mean I would say he's probably at this point 354 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: like a serviceable starter, not like a Hall of Fame 355 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: starter like he was a couple of years ago in Dallas, 356 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: but as a bridge to a highly drafted rookie. And 357 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: there's nobody better to learn how to play left tackle 358 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: from than Tyron Smith. So if you if you draft 359 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: Will Campbell, or you draft you know somebody maybe even 360 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: a little bit later like connorly Ursery or something like that, 361 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: and you hand him to Tyron Smith and say, you know, Yoda, 362 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: teach him right. 363 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: The thing is, he's not good Will Campbell or very 364 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: few people are gonna be able to do what Tyron 365 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Smith did. I mean, I think he's a Hall of Famer. Uh. 366 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: And his measurables are perfect, like they're they're they're the 367 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: prototypical left tackle measurables. 368 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just think there's something to be said 369 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: for even just watching a guy like that practice and 370 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: watching it and watching him go about his business exactly. 371 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: They could surgically remove an inch from each of his 372 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: arms and give it to Will Campbell and he still 373 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: would still. 374 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: Have above the threshold arm. Now he's not going to 375 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: practice every day. I mean, you're gonna have to manage 376 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: a guy like Tyron's. I think it's worth it. I do. 377 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: What are the other options, right, just to have him 378 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: on the team, you know, again, if you have to, 379 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: if you haven't solved left tackle on day one, he 380 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: starts on day one. If it's Will Campbell, I want 381 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: Will Campbell starting on day one. But like I said, 382 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: injuries are gonna happen, you know, and you have this 383 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: guy on your bench ready to go, you know, when 384 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: you need him. 385 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: The contractor Jets signed him to last year is really 386 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: appealing to me. It was a one year incentive laiden deal. 387 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: If he plays, he makes franchise tackle money. If he 388 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 4: doesn't play, he doesn't get paid. And in that contract 389 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 4: it was you know, that's exactly what I would look 390 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: forward with the Patriots to do. Is one year. You 391 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: can probably max out at eighteen twenty million dollars a 392 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: year if you have a really, really good, you know, 393 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl level season. But if not, then you know, 394 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: they can put him on the bench. But if the 395 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 4: rookie beats him out or whatever the case may be, 396 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: but you're gonna have to throw a lot of money 397 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: at him. I think you think you think so well 398 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: at thirty four, like, I would imagine that his incentive 399 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 4: of playing right now is money in rings, right Like, 400 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: I can't really think of any other reason for him 401 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 4: to be playing. So if you're going to get him 402 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: to come to a place like this, it's going to 403 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: have to be money. 404 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean I I just remember, I didn't 405 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: think that the deal that the Jets signed with him 406 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: broke the bank last year. 407 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: It was it was very incentive based, so it. You know, 408 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: it always gets reported about the max value of these contracts. 409 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: So I think that for Tyrontsant to come here, like 410 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: you're probably talking about sixteen to eighteen million dollars. 411 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: Let me get on the phone with him. And that 412 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: that leads me to the next point. You know, when 413 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: it comes to the Patriots showing interest in these guys 414 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, not getting it done. My question is, 415 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: who's the closer here. Who's the guy who makes the 416 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: closing pitch? 417 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 4: Is it Rabel? 418 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Is it Elliott Wolf? I don't know. 419 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: I mean I like Rabel in that role. Yeah, I 420 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: mean that seems like he's the kind of guy that 421 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: can cut through the bs and be like, look, this 422 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: is what this team's going to be, this is how 423 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: I want you to play. I'm going to be a 424 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: straight shooter with you. I think that's you know, that's. 425 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 10: The command's respect. 426 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think as we've seen from 427 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: all these guys, they have such respect for him. Yeah, 428 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: having done it in the league, and that to me 429 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: seems like the perfect you know, let Elliott work out 430 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: the deals. The parameters. 431 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: Part of the media, maybe you know, in the next 432 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: press conference, that'd be a question I would ask, Forrabel, 433 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: who's your closer? Is it you? Like, who's that guy 434 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: that closes the. 435 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not the linemen that had been floated out 436 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: for them though, Like none of those guys were guys 437 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: that I would have breaked the bank for, Like if 438 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: Ronnie Stanley had hit free agency, I'm backing up the 439 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 4: Brinks truck, Like, whatever it takes to get that player here, 440 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: you know what they tried to do. It sounds like 441 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: with Chris Godwin right, like you're offering him five ten 442 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: million dollars over market value to try to get him here. 443 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: But the fact that they didn't do that for Dan 444 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: Moore Junior or Patrick McCarry or like any of those 445 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: other guys, Like, I'm not gonna get all up in 446 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: arms about that, you know. I think Morgan Moses was 447 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: a really solid signing. I like Garrett Bradbury more than 448 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: a lot of other people, but I think that's a 449 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: really solid move for them at center. So like I'm 450 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: okay with those moves, Like they obviously still have a 451 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: left tackle hole, but. 452 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean Minnesota has a young guy now who's on 453 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: a rookie contract or what's the second year. 454 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: Well, they signed Ryan Kelly. Yeah for the time being. 455 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's on a shorter, you know, a smaller contract, 456 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: and they think he's a little bit better than Bradbury. 457 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: So they felt that Bradbury's expendable. That doesn't mean Bradbury 458 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: is not a good player anymore. 459 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: No, It's also just every year in free agency you 460 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: want to plug all your holes. And it doesn't necessarily 461 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: mean that like he has to be the starter and 462 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: that's it and we're set for the future. It's get 463 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: solid NFL players and he's a starting caliber center and 464 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: then try to if you get a chance to upgrade 465 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: in the draft, and you know you don't have to 466 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: reach for needs. I still just look at left tackle 467 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: and you know, if they're able to find a number 468 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: one type wide receiver, those are the two glaring holes 469 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: to me on the roster. Otherwise, I think that they 470 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: have a pretty solid baseline to go into the draft 471 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: and start to stack real talent, which is what we'll 472 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: take this team and. 473 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: Ryan Wrights in. With the Patriots having more money than 474 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: they can realistically spend, I'd love to see them over 475 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: pay for Digs for two years, Tyron Smith for one year. 476 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: What's the downside, even if they draft to tackle at four, 477 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: let him sit behind Smith for a little while. That's 478 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: what the Jets did last year. As much as I 479 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: hate doing anything, the Jets thought was smart. 480 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: Just stealing both their tackles from last year. 481 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I like adding the second 482 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: year to Diggs's contract because if he does bow back 483 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: and he has a big year, then you have him 484 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: under team control for twenty six, which I think would 485 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: be appealing. But at this point, you offer those types 486 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: of contracts and you have the cap space to absorb it. 487 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 4: Just one year two year deals, like, don't overextend in 488 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: terms of term, but I think you can get those 489 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: guys at this point free agency. 490 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: What other topics do we need to put on the table. 491 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, they signed the linebacker yesterday, Jack Gibbons, who was 492 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: with Rabel down to Tennessee. You know, kind of similar 493 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: play style to Spalline. I would say they're just both 494 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: too off the ball linebackers who play fast and you know, 495 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: really rally to the ball. Saw the report today that 496 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: Jawan Bentley has dropped some weight from Mike Gardi these 497 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: down in the two thirties. I think all these things 498 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: are signaling what we kind of know that this is 499 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: going to be an up the field, attacking, fly to 500 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: the ball kind of defense, not a two gaping you know, 501 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: build the wall, hold guys up. It's going to be 502 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: a lot different. 503 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: I think what's on the schedule this year that's more 504 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: of a power team that you know, if you are 505 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: a smaller fan, aster team might be a little bit 506 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: of a matchup challenge. 507 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: It's a good question. I haven't looked that far. 508 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you're playing the AFC North, so those are 509 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 3: obviously a lot of tough teams. You know, maybe Miami, 510 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: I mean, you can maybe convince me Miami, you know 511 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: that's the kind of team you want to you know, 512 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: our first speech speed, Well, just be able. 513 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: To know I'm talking about like a team that we 514 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: would if we are speed you know. 515 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well the Ravens, the AFC North teams tend to, 516 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, play that style of football. But you know, 517 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: I just I think it's there's more than one way 518 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: to skin a cat, and I think all defenses. It's 519 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: just if they play together and everybody buys in, uh, 520 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: then you know it can be good. It doesn't matter 521 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: what what you want to play. Three four you want 522 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: to you know, four to three, all that stuff, like 523 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: just play hard and get everybody together. But I'm really 524 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: curious with that signing with him. Where does where does 525 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: Bentley fit in? And where does you know Jilani Tavai 526 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: fit in in this defense? You know, I just I 527 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: think they're setting up for competition, and you know, it 528 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: seems like the message has been sent to Bentley like 529 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna ask a little different of you this year, 530 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: and it seems like he's trying to do his best 531 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: to fit into their plans. 532 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Raiders reportedly signed Christian Ellis to an 533 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 4: offer sheet, and then the Patriots reacted to that by 534 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: signing Jack Gibbons, which tells me that they're probably not 535 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: going to match Christian Ellis's off for sheet. They're very 536 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: similar players, you know, kind of depth inside linebacker, course, 537 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 4: special teamer types, you know, athletic guys, tackle guys, you 538 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: know that kind of thing. I think that they're probably 539 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 4: redundant to each other, so that might be what that 540 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: move was all about. But I would like to see 541 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: them play Bentley and Splain together. I think, you know, 542 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: there's still a big role for that sledgehammer like Bentley 543 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: in the middle. I think they missed him last year 544 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: on their run. Yeah, let's fly around exactly, keep him clean, 545 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: let him fly around and you know, chase the football 546 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: that Bentley do his thing in the trenches and you 547 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: have a nice little one two punch there. But you know, 548 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: to buy it's an interesting one, Like you know, if 549 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: those two guys are going to be your starting inside linebackers, 550 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: Like where is that leave to bue? 551 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: I just wonder. I mean, it's probably more Jennings, a 552 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: strong side outside linebacker standing up when you're in base. 553 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's where he is. Maybe he's a little 554 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: more athletic than than Jennings is on the edge. I mean, 555 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: that's kind of where I'm shoehorning him in. But it's 556 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: it's hard to see. I mean, the way splane runs, 557 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be hard to take him off the field. 558 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, John and Derby England says, just quick question, who, 559 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: in your opinion is the best O lineman in Patriots history. 560 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: Surely it's John Hannah, I would agree. Surely you m 561 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Canton Patriots Hall of Fame coincidentally taken 562 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: at number four in his draft class. Surely Will Campbell 563 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: is a no brainer, as he can slot into Hannah's 564 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: position if he struggles to tackle, and let's be honest, 565 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: if he is half the player Hannah was, then this 566 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: will be a home run all day long. We can 567 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: trade back into the later first round for a decent receiver, 568 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: but for me, it has to be Campbell at four. 569 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: You know, I think we spent so much time. 570 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: I saw a mod draft today that had us trading 571 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: down to I think eight and still being able to 572 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: take Campbell. 573 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 574 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't seem crazy, but I think I spent 575 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: so much time in the last couple of weeks talking 576 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: about Campbell's length. Like maybe on the positive side, it's 577 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: like this guy runs like the wind and I forget 578 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: what the number was exactly, but with like the tracking 579 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: something crazy, like he's hitting like eighteen miles an hour 580 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: out there getting down the field. So I just don't 581 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: want to spend too much time on Will Campbell, just 582 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: relentlessly talking about his arm link when like the guy 583 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: is a super athlete, like crazy good athlete. I don't 584 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: know if it'll all translate to tackle, but I still 585 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: I've never closed the door on Will Campbell. I think 586 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: he's a great player. I mean, when I see him talk, 587 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: it just reminds me of a vable kind of guy, 588 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: and that to me is a good indication that hey, 589 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: maybe it doesn't work out at left tackle, but we 590 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: all know they just they need to build the line 591 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: up and having a guy in the middle who's really 592 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: good that's going to be a benefit for Drake Maye too. 593 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean my first reaction to the arm line 594 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: thing was obviously to roll it out, just because I 595 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: don't think that there's a great path for him being 596 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: a high level tackle with his measurables. But at the 597 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: same time, now we get closer to it, it's like 598 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 4: such a frable guy like is intangibles are just off 599 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: the charts. You know, he's one of those guys that 600 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: is going to be a captain in his second year 601 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 4: and just like lead the room for a decade. Like 602 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 4: whether he's a guard, whether he's a tackle, he's going 603 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: to do those types of things. I love the story 604 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: about him wearing number seven as a patch on his 605 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: jersey because he wasn't eligible to wear number seven in 606 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: the games, and number seven is LSU's best player on 607 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: the roster. Period on either side of the ball, they 608 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: give the number seven out to that player. So he 609 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 4: wore the number seven as a little patch on his 610 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: jersey last year at LSU. So that just tells you, 611 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: like what they thought of him, like as a as 612 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: a player and as a human being. So I just 613 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 4: when you hear all that stuff and then you put 614 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 4: it together with the need on the offensive line that 615 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: the Patriots have, it's like, I mean, how can you 616 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: really talk yourself out of it? At that point? 617 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 9: He choosers element to his sense for me at least personally, like, 618 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 9: I mean, you guys have given a lot of credence 619 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 9: to the arm length here and there, but for me personally, 620 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 9: it's like it seems like such a I know it's significant, 621 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 9: but it's like, how can you just turn away? 622 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm really warming talking about Campbell. Yeah, I'm warming up 623 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: to him at four. I just think he's going to 624 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: be a good football player. 625 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, and unless Carter are still there, which just feels 626 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 9: more unrealistic every day. 627 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: It's like, haven't lost when you get to that next 628 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 4: group too, Like they're all imperfect prospects. So like now 629 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 4: we're just talking about who's the best for the Patriots, 630 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 4: and like Ted McMillan is a slow receiver, Like do 631 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: you want to draft a guy that ran a four 632 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: four five at his pro day at four overall? You know, 633 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: Mason Graham is a smaller interior defensive tackle like that 634 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: that is not as much of a I would say 635 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: outlier as Will Campbell's arm length, but it's still not ideal. 636 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: So all these guys, you know, gents are running back 637 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: like so like you're you're talking about, there's no really 638 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: consensus answer. Like last year we could all get our 639 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: heads around Drake May like that was a consensus slam 640 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 4: dunk pick. This year, if Hunter and Carter aren't there, 641 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: there isn't one, So you can talk yourself into anything. 642 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, some people are saying, if Travis Hunter is 643 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: there and you should you should trade down. That was 644 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: the mock I saw today. The team that moved up 645 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: into the Patriots slot took Hunter, No was it Hunter 646 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: or Carter? One of the two took them, and we 647 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: moved down and ended up still being able to take 648 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: Will Campbell. 649 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: That'd be disappointing to me. 650 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: I don't think you can do that. 651 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: I think if Carter Hunter there, those those guys are special. 652 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: You would really well, your gun would have to be right. 653 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: But the one thing I didn't see, and I didn't 654 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: click on the Bitley link or whatever, But I don't 655 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: know what the Patriots got in return. 656 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: Right, No, I think I saw the one you're saying, 657 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: and it wasn't another first round pick the round. Yeah, 658 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: but they traded down to like eleven or something. 659 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they must have gotten quite a bit 660 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: in return. So like, if you can get another two 661 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: win of three this year, I mean, and now you 662 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: have stuff to package to move up back into the 663 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: first round at the bottom, or extra picks in the 664 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: second round to pick tackles and wide receiver, you know, 665 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean. 666 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Would you pass on Cutter Hunter for a next year one? 667 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not passing on either of those guys, 668 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: and I don't think they will either. Like I don't 669 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: know as much about Abdul Carter, but I cannot get 670 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: the conversation that we had with Elliott Wolf at the 671 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: Combine out of my head when we started talking about 672 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, Like, so you're telling me that that that 673 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: guy is going to pass on that player? No chance. 674 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit. And again I haven't really delve 675 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: into tape. But whenever somebody puts a melt together of 676 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: Hunter highlights at receiver, they're always the same four or 677 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: five clips. 678 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: I mean he had he had sixteen touchdowns and like. 679 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 11: A lot of them. 680 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a lot of red zone touchdowns. Some 681 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: of that I think is more about the offense than anything, 682 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: Like they couldn't protect the quarterback so you know, getting 683 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: him down the field was. 684 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: He didn't have any well you know, and I shouldn't 685 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: hold this against him, but he didn't have one touchdown 686 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: over sixty yards, which you know, Yeah, I mean I 687 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: think he had a lot of that is a circumstance. 688 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: I think he had one that was like fifty one. 689 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 690 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: His uh, he is a natural receiver, but he's not 691 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: a refined receiver. Like he's got natural instincts for the position. 692 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: But if he's going to play a receiver full time, 693 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: then he's gonna have to get in the lab and 694 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: work on some of the details of the position. 695 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: Now. But where I do see the natural ability and 696 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: its apparent it is that cornerback, Like it's just his makeup, speed, 697 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: his instincts, his hands, his ability to just be in 698 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: the pocket with the receiver, you know, and even when 699 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: he's not, like I said, the makeup speed, knowing when 700 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: to break on the ball. I think he's right away, 701 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: he's he's a pro bowl cornerback right out of the gate. 702 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting how the rosters lining up now, like 703 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: how we would fit in and how they might work that. 704 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you love, you know, having Calton Davis on 705 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: the outside. Now you feel like outside is kind of 706 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: taken care of. I still think slot's a big question, 707 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: and I don't I mean that might be where he is, 708 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, like you wait, put him out there on 709 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: third downs and you know, put him, move him around 710 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: and he can kind of well, you know, he doesn't 711 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: have to play. 712 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love him in the slot, and I 713 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: don't think he's not He's not I don't think overly 714 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: sticky in that sense, like if you're going to have 715 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: him cover like little slot receivers and stuff like that, 716 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that's necessarily his strength. His strength 717 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: is his his length, his ball skills, his ballhowking ability 718 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: like all those types of things. So I don't know 719 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: if the slot would necessarily be the best spot for 720 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: him at corner. But I mean you can't go wrong 721 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: with him on either side of the ball. And I 722 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: just think at receiver and I thought Andrew Berry the 723 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 4: Browns GM put it perfectly like a receiver, he's going 724 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: to touch the ball five to ten times a game 725 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: at corner, maybe he touches it once, right, So, like, 726 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: if you have a guy with this kind of game 727 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: breaking ability in terms of play speed and all that 728 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: kind of stuff, like, wouldn't you want him to play 729 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: the position where he's going to impact the game the most. 730 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: And that's clearly going to be at wide receivers. 731 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: I mean you could get asked in gents about thirty 732 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: touches a game out of if you're interested. No, I 733 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: mean I look at Stefan Diggs and his skill as 734 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: a route runner, and if you could give that to 735 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and MRT, I mean you would really be 736 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: cooking with something with that guy. 737 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: Floyd and Redford Michigan says, please stop this intangible talk 738 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: with Will Campbell and to hear Alex bring up beggars 739 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: not being choosers. Please tell me the last time a 740 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: desperate person made a good decision. 741 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's tough. 742 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 10: Well, it's either make it, like what's the alternative. 743 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, I just whether you like it or not, they 744 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: care about the intangible stuff, so like caout it, whether 745 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: we care about it, whether the listeners care about it, 746 00:32:59,560 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: you know. 747 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: And so the intangibles he's talking about is just his attitude, leadership, leadership, 748 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: and yeah, listen, I think it matters. I think it 749 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: does matter. 750 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: It matters to me one hundred percent. And I mean 751 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: I wish Paul was here because he probably, you know, 752 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: make fun of me for still believing in Santa Claus. 753 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: But nothing's going to shake me from building a team, 754 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: you know, building a team finding the right guys. And 755 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: that's what incited me last week is these are the 756 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: kind of guys that you build the locker room around 757 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: and you know, can change the culture. 758 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 10: And these guys don't grow on trees. 759 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it's and it seems like they did their 760 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: homework with These were verbels kind of guys, and that 761 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: has colored how I look at a lot of these 762 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: draft prospects. So do I think that, you know, if 763 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs got here and started to, you know, get 764 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: a little gripy about things like I trust that Josh 765 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: McDaniels and Mike Vrabel, you know have the skill to 766 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: handle that, and I also feel like they're rebuilding the 767 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: infrastructure that they need. But to me, a good football 768 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: team and I just this is my personal experience. The 769 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: best teams I were on were the teams where we 770 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: weren't necessarily the most talented, but we were always the 771 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: team that was all pulling together and everybody got what 772 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: we were trying to do. And we had more talented 773 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: teams with guys who are painting the ass and you know, 774 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: we're over in the side of the locker room trying 775 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: to stir discension about the coach, and those teams always 776 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: had huge disappointments, So I know you're kind of chasing 777 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: a moving target with this kind of thing. You're never 778 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: going to have a team full of boy scouts, but 779 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 3: it means the NFL especially, you know, it's really hard 780 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: to have that. But it's important to me, and it's 781 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: certainly something that I look at when I'm considering all 782 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: these guys. 783 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: Especially in your one of a program, Like if we 784 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: were three years into Mike Rabel, then it might be 785 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: a little bit different, but they're trying to establish something here, 786 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 4: like they're trying to lay a foundation and when we 787 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: were at the Senior Bowl. I asked Ryan Cowden, like, 788 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: what's a Verabel player? And he said, I know it 789 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 4: sounds cliche, but effort and finish. Like we are going 790 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: to be about effort and finish and everybody that we 791 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: are going to invest in is going to play that way. 792 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 4: And when you look at the free agent signings, they're 793 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: all those types of guys. You know, we talk about 794 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 4: that with Robert Splain especially, but it's it's pretty much 795 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: everybody across the board plays with a really good motor 796 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: and a really good you know, effort and finish and 797 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: their professionals and like all that kind of stuff, and 798 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: that's like a baseline half to have. 799 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: Well, I think on defense, certainly, you know, defense you 800 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 2: can make up for, you know, a lack of talent 801 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: to a certain degree with your effort and how you finish. 802 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: On offense, you know, on the line you can still 803 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: but you need some talent. We need to get some 804 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: talent onto this team. We need an infusion of talent. 805 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: We need to weaponize the offense. 806 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 4: I didn't use that one this year. 807 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: Uh, Nate's in Connecticut, He's on the hot line. What's up, Nate? 808 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 6: Hi guys, can you guys hear me? I had a 809 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 6: couple of questions and thoughts in regards to a linebacker position. 810 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: I know, we just signed Jack Gibbons and we had 811 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 6: Robert Bulane come in, but like, what does this mean 812 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 6: for the future of Jawan Bentley? And like you, like 813 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 6: I know tav he regressed a lot on this year, 814 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: and of course Bentley was injured pretty much the entire year. 815 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 6: But does this mean that well, obviously it will, but 816 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 6: we're gonna have more competition at the linebacker spot. But 817 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 6: would you guys be surprised if you saw Jilani Tava 818 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 6: or Jowan Bentley's name on the cut down list for 819 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 6: fifty three man roster day. 820 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 12: But yeah, that's what I have for you, guys. 821 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: Think okay, thanks Nate. I think for me Bentley would 822 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: be a surprise to VI would not YEA. 823 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I would say, just you know, 824 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: in defensive Jolny Teva, I think he was put in horrible. 825 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 10: Position last year that yeah, he was wearing a lot 826 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 10: of hats. 827 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: He had to wear a lot of hats, He had 828 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: to do a lot of things that he's not necessarily 829 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: cut out for. I think you saw a couple of 830 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 3: years ago when he's able to kind of float around 831 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: with Bentley controlling things in the middle, calling the defense. 832 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: You know, he made some plays, So I agree with 833 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 3: Evans's point, though. I like thinking about Bentley and Spallaine 834 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: as the two backers. That's a good company. It's it's 835 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 3: you know, Bentley gets a little bit faster. I think 836 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: he'll fit, but I just I think to buy inherently 837 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: his body tight. It kind of fits the old defense 838 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 3: a little bit more. Now maybe he's doing the same 839 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: thing that Bentley's doing. Maybe he's you know, losing some 840 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 3: weight trying to pick up some speed. I do think 841 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: that he's still, you know, a pretty good player that 842 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 3: has some use. I just I just don't see how 843 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: he fits exactly at this point. That's one of the 844 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: things when we get out in O tas, you kind 845 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: of get a sense of, all, right, where are they 846 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: putting guys or they you know, they practice in full 847 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: time and just Nickel or three safety. You know, then 848 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 3: you get more of a sense of what packages they're 849 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: putting together, how they're going to line up and match 850 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: up against teams, And I think those things will start 851 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 3: to come to light a little bit. 852 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 4: I just think there's always you know, Bentley's we just 853 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 4: talked about culture and attitude and effort and finish like 854 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: that's Jewan Bentley. Yeah, you know, I just I really 855 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 4: feel like he's a got that varyable kind of glowed 856 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 4: to him definitely, And I like spoiling. I like the signing, 857 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 4: but I'll always be for a mic linebacker that can 858 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: blow up a guard, right, Like it's that simple, Like 859 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: does it any Like a guy that can come downhill 860 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage like that is always valuable 861 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: to me. I still don't think that that's really Spallaine's game, 862 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: you know, And so I think you have a guy 863 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 4: like Bentley that can still do that. Maybe his role 864 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: is reduced, you know, it's only really early downs, you 865 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: know and run situations and things like that, But I 866 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 4: still think there's a role on the team for that. 867 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 3: I think just real quick for I think interesting thing 868 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: is like Vrabel part of the defense here, Like they 869 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 3: just had such a diverse array of linebackers on the 870 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: second level where they had Roman Fighter who could run, 871 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: they had Teddy Johnson who was a big, you know, 872 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 3: thumper they you know, but I think that that was 873 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: more of the Belichick defense. Back then, it was really 874 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: mostly three four and so you always almost always had 875 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: four linebackers or three on the field at once. So 876 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: you needed that stable of different kind of types to 877 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: match up. I don't know if they need that anymore. 878 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: They're gonna they were running primarily three four back then. 879 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, you need three lineback today's NFL because you're gonna 880 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 4: be You're gonna have two on the field and Nickel 881 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: and then you you need one guy that can be 882 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: a serviceable backup right. 883 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: Drop down, like a Marty Mapu or something that's a 884 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 3: good guy too. Like to talk about Marty Mapoo. How 885 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 3: does he fit in? I mean he's a little bit 886 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: more in the mold of a faster, longer linebacker. I mean, 887 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: it'd say he's definitely bigger than Spallain is. It explains 888 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: like six to one's talk, there's like six', three you, 889 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 3: Know so where's he fit? IN i think that's a 890 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 3: good question. 891 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Too Boston cream writes in kudos To alex for the 892 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: clean girl esthetic match With Business floss attired one recommendation 893 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: slickstick hairwax with a high pony to complete the. 894 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 10: Look, okay watch. 895 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: Out she's gonna send her boots your way, there. 896 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 10: High ponytail. 897 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 2: One that pops. 898 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 4: Up, YEAH i mean it's interesting that he doesn't have 899 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: any critiques of our. 900 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: Outfit, question is it too risky to try and trade back. 901 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 10: Up into the twenties for a tackle. 902 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: If we GO bpa at four. 903 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: Trade backup for tackles in the twenties and, yeah, Yeah simmons, maybe, 904 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah Simmons Connorly. 905 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: Orsery last year it was reported that we tried couldn't 906 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: find a. Partner does that scare wolf this year to 907 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: try to do the. 908 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: Same, yeah it's it's not a great tackle, class especially 909 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: on the left, side and you, know just trying to 910 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 4: make my way through some of those you, know third, 911 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 4: round fourth round guys now and, uh there's a pretty 912 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: big drop off after The connorley's And urseries of The. 913 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 4: World's like once you get to pass, that you're Talking 914 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: Anthony belton And Charles grant From william And, mary who's 915 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 4: a small school. GUY i, think you, know guys Like 916 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: mylom And, Zabel like those guys are all gonna play 917 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 4: inside at the next, level so like they're Not i'm 918 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 4: not really even considering. Them you, Know Donovan jackson From Ohio. 919 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 4: STATE i think those guys are all. Guards so, uh 920 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 4: it's uh it thins out, quickly it drops off really. 921 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 4: Quickly so if there's a tackle run in the, twenties 922 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 4: you better get on the train because if you, don't 923 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 4: then you're not getting a starter this year out of 924 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: the draft and at left. 925 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: Tackle, Uh deshaun's In. Virginia, Hey DeShawn. 926 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 6: Them. 927 00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 2: Good. 928 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 13: Uh the first THING i wanted to touch on is 929 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 13: when it comes to the character and culture or, whatever 930 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 13: you get a lot of those things to get in 931 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 13: the way of trying to get players good, players Because 932 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 13: i'm pretty sure that if you believe that your culture 933 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 13: and stuff is so, Strong i'm appy sure you can 934 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 13: instill uh that mindset into guys lee or a, problematic a 935 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 13: problematic at first rooming to be who you want them to, 936 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 13: be especially with the way they seem is. FORMER i 937 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 13: think he can actually uh start accumulating some win if 938 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 13: they get some time on the office the. End, now 939 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 13: when it comes to the, DRAFT i don't believe That 940 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 13: Will campl's is the BEST i talk on the. DRAFT i, 941 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 13: MEAN i really prefer dude out Of Ohio. State, WELL 942 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 13: i PREFER i to do out Of. Oregon and also 943 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 13: we're gonna when it comes To trump's, HUNTS i don't 944 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 13: believe he's a uh you, know uh a time as the. 945 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 13: Receiver he's a good, cornerback but we got enough cornerbacks 946 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 13: from the roster right, Now SO i MEAN i want 947 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 13: to fear receiver at that that. Spot even people get 948 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 13: on people get me About tug, mcbellan But i'm just 949 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 13: saying he's a great comparison to the guys like By Mike, 950 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 13: evans you, know or Dre wonnon or. Whatever, like he 951 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 13: played a lot better on the field WHEN i watched 952 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 13: the teat so the, COMBAT i just watched how he 953 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 13: plays on the. Field that's ALL i really wanted to. 954 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: Say, okay, okay thanks thanks To. Shawn, YEAH i mean 955 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 2: out On Will campbell And Travis. 956 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: Hunter we we continue to do The Josh simmons. Dance 957 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: Like Josh simmons is. Hurt he tore his ptell attendant 958 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: in his knee In, november Late, october Early. November he's 959 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 4: gonna miss a year of, football so he's a red 960 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 4: shirt player for his rookie. Season and if you're The, 961 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 4: Patriots like you need somebody that can contribute this, Year, 962 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: like you can't be drafting guys in the top fifty 963 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 4: that aren't going to play as rookies on this. Team 964 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: so he's a great, player it went, healthy and it's 965 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 4: a great fit for teams that can take that. Chance 966 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 4: Like i've been thinking of him To Kansas city for 967 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: a while, now you, know just because of. That BUT 968 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 4: i just don't see how that lines up for The, 969 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 4: Patriots like if they take a guy like, that you 970 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 4: know at the end of the first, round that's not 971 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: gonna play his entire rookie. 972 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 2: Season like if you pick if you pick a guy 973 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: like that and he red shirts is for does his contract? 974 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: Told does it? 975 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: No it does, No so he'd, like you, know that's 976 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 4: another year of service time that's like off the. Contract you, 977 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 4: know he's a really talented player and there was a, 978 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 4: chance you, know he was tracking towards being the best 979 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 4: tackle in the class if he had stayed, healthy but he, 980 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: didn't so we can you, know that's is what that. 981 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 4: Is you, Know connorly is a really talented, guy but he's. 982 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 4: Raw you, know he's gonna it's gonna take him some 983 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 4: time he's, young he's a raw, player but really high. 984 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 4: Ceiling So i'm not out on him at, All BUT 985 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 4: i just think, that you, know those are two guys 986 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: That Will campbell's in a little bit more of a 987 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 4: proven commodity type. Category ryan's An. 988 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: Idaho Hey, ryan what do you? 989 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 12: Know, hey, guys thanks for taking my phone. Call, hey, 990 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 12: hey So i'm a voice idatus. Here, So, MIKE i 991 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 12: was really excited WHEN i obviously saw your monstraft passion 992 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 12: by far the best player that has ever played Your Boise, 993 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 12: state you, know runner. 994 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 13: Up as A. 995 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 12: Heisman he had almost a you, know season record for 996 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 12: rushing yards and again was just like the biggest weapon 997 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 12: that we had on. Offense, Right and SO i felt 998 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 12: like On tuesday on the podcast AS i was driving, 999 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 12: home you, know it's kind of raising my blood pressure because, 1000 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 12: byfically you, Know, paul WHICH i know he's not there, 1001 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 12: today it seems to question the talent of the player, himself, 1002 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 12: RIGHT i mean when you look At gens compared to 1003 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 12: just the talent level of the players around, HIM i, mean, 1004 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 12: he in my, opinion is the third best player in this. 1005 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 12: Draft and so for The patriots who need just a 1006 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 12: desperate injection of talent right on their, offense a weapon 1007 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 12: Like gent who is better in the receiving game THAN 1008 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 12: i think he gets credit. FOR i, mean as a 1009 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 12: career receiver At Boise, state he had eighty, catches eight hundred, 1010 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 12: yards a few touchdowns. THERE i mean he's a. 1011 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 13: Weapon so is there value? 1012 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 12: GUYS i, mean and just taking a weapon in injecting 1013 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 12: that into our. 1014 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: Offense, YEAH i mean about. 1015 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 4: IT i mean that's the. 1016 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: Argument that's the. 1017 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 3: ARGUMENT i, MEAN i would just tie it to What 1018 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: evan's tied with With Will campbell that you, know it's 1019 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: The patriots need a lot and you just really want 1020 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 3: to make sure you don't miss on this, pick and 1021 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 3: you start to get into valuing positions and what's more 1022 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 3: Valuable Will campbell is a left guard Or Ashton genty 1023 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 3: is a running? Back you, know both. POSITIONS i think 1024 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 3: most people in THE nfl would look at as you'll 1025 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: figure it. Out BUT i think there's you, know AND i, 1026 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 3: Look i'm not like starting the parade For Ashton genty 1027 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 3: or ANY i, MEAN i JUST i think it's a 1028 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 3: worthwhile conversation because The patriots offense has been stagnant for too, 1029 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: long AND i think it might help you get out of. 1030 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: THAT i think he's a little bit better than you, 1031 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: know the rest of this very good running back. Class 1032 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: but you, know that just gets back to the point 1033 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 3: of when you have a good class at a, position 1034 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: do you want the best one or you, okay just 1035 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 3: getting one of the, Guys and you know there's pros 1036 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 3: and cons for both sides of. THAT i JUST i, 1037 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: mean ultimately the end of the, Day i'm probably not 1038 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 3: going to Take Ashton genty at fourth. Overall BUT i 1039 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 3: do think that it's a worthy. 1040 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 2: Conversation, YEAH i don't think it's it's ridiculous people probably. 1041 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 4: In a fun. Way, NO. 1042 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it. IS I i don't think it. 1043 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: IS i THINK i, mean A raider fan is gonna 1044 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 3: flame when he if you goes six to The raiders 1045 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 3: Or raider fans feel, like. 1046 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 2: Oh, god, yes. 1047 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely. YEAH i Mean i'm not, LIKE i don't want 1048 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 4: to speak For, paul but there's no deny Like ryan's, Right, 1049 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 4: like there's no denying his talent like. That no one's 1050 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 4: saying that he's not a talented. Player he's uberly talented running. 1051 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 4: Back but it just doesn't for me. Personally it's it's 1052 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 4: a positional, Thing like it's just purely a positional value 1053 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: thing and just HOW i value running backs in. General 1054 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 4: and there might be a gap between him and the 1055 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: rest of this running back, class but there's so many 1056 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 4: great running backs in this class that you can have 1057 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 4: On day two And day three of the draft that 1058 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 4: are still going to come in and make an impact that, 1059 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 4: like why would you waste the fourth over. 1060 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 2: Pick somehow end up With Will campbell And Ashton? Genty 1061 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: would you be happy with? 1062 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 4: THAT i mean you, can't but sure why Because Ashton 1063 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 4: genty's they're both going to go in the top. Ten, 1064 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 4: well what If i'm talking about trading back from thirty? 1065 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: Eight? Yeah, no from? Four, yeah still be able to 1066 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: At Will. Campbell then trading back up from thirty, Eight, 1067 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 2: WELL i, mean depending on what DID i get from my, 1068 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: TRADE i might have now the ammunition to do. 1069 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 4: That you get you're not going to have a higher 1070 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 4: pick than thirty. 1071 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: Eight but you go to The raiders at. Six The 1072 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 3: raiders give you their second round, pick so you package 1073 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: them the two, sects so you pick it that at, 1074 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: six you Take campbell Or, Genty then you package the 1075 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 3: two second rounders things to go up twenty. Spots maybe 1076 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: not quite. 1077 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 14: Twenty but that's the, thing you, know like every work 1078 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 14: with me, Here, Evan i'm trying to let the fact 1079 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 14: running back we you, know admittedly is a devalued. Position 1080 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 14: in the, end maybe he doesn't go in the top, TEN. 1081 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 4: I think he, will but if he, does like even. 1082 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: If he goes, ten some dumb teams like we're talking. 1083 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 4: About having to trade up twenty five spots to get. 1084 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 3: HIM i know that do sound extreme to, Me, yeah 1085 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 3: BUT i think they'll get a RUNNING i think they 1086 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: GOT i, MEAN i do think that they need to 1087 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: make running back a priority this. YEAR i think they 1088 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: have to get one of these guys that you're talking. About, 1089 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 3: yeah and there's plenty of opportunities to do that THAT 1090 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: i just, LOOK i mean to get away From ashton 1091 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 3: gentye of it, All, like how do we really feel 1092 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 3: right now About Rimondre stevenson And Antonio? Gibson how do 1093 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 3: you really Feel do you feel great about those two 1094 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: guys coming back this year that you, KNOW. 1095 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be like freaking out if we started the 1096 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: season and NOW i wouldn't be freaking out. 1097 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 3: Either BUT i also just wonder are we seeing the 1098 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 3: peak Of, vermondre or you know was two years, ago 1099 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 3: the peak Of. Vermondre can he get rid of these fumbling? 1100 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 3: ISSUES i Think Antonio gibson is a nice complimentary, piece 1101 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 3: but there's a certain appeal to me of looking at 1102 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: any of these a handful of running backs that are 1103 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: all very. Good Devin neil's one that keeps you, know, 1104 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i meaning. 1105 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 4: Up it's like ten to twelve. 1106 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 3: GUYS i, said it's a great ad to this room 1107 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 3: to have a young buck who's going to be pushing 1108 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: these two other veterans and to have some insurance against. 1109 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: Remonder so over on zero point, five The patriots have 1110 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: a running, back a new running back on the. 1111 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 4: Team i'd be disappointed if they didn't draft. 1112 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: EARLY i would bet the. OVER i MEAN i felt, 1113 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 3: SIMILARLY i don't know if it was last year the 1114 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: year before with the tight end class that was great 1115 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 3: and we just felt, like, well they gotta grab one 1116 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: right and they. Didn't that was. DISAPPOINTING i think they 1117 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 3: gotta they gotta tap that. Class they also got to 1118 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 3: to tap the front seven. CLASS i think they got 1119 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 3: to get an. Edge they've got to got some kind 1120 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 3: of that. Class tap that. CLASS i didn't. Know it's 1121 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 3: just a natural thing to. ME i just got these 1122 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 3: come out to. 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Hearts Rob, gronkowski. 1190 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 18: What an, introduction. GUYS i appreciate, that, Love thank. YOU 1191 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 18: i played for the number one organization of all times as, 1192 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 18: well so it was a great matchup to have the 1193 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 18: number one tight end ploying for the number one. Organization, 1194 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 18: baby that's what's. 1195 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 16: Up was that the best team that you played, On? 1196 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 16: Rob here with that that fourteen team that Beats seattle. 1197 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 3: In my career here here here In New? 1198 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 4: England was that the BEST i think he might think it. 1199 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 4: Was that's WHY i qualified. 1200 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 18: That that was that was a very special team game 1201 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 18: at the heck of a. Game it was one of 1202 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 18: the best Super, bowls haymake all, times no doubt about. 1203 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 18: That people are, like what was your favorite Super? Bowl 1204 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 18: NOT i always say the first, One but it wasn't 1205 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 18: because it was just the first, one because the first 1206 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 18: one is always the. Sweetest but it was also because 1207 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 18: it was one of the best games In Super bowl. 1208 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 18: History seattle was, up we came, back they went back, 1209 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 18: Up we took the, lead and you go they go 1210 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 18: back down with you, know final final minute on the, 1211 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 18: clock and Then Malcolm butler has that game ceiling, interception 1212 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 18: and then we're kneeling the ball And i'm Throwing haymakers 1213 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 18: out there Versus Michael. 1214 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: Bennett you, know while just. 1215 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 18: Kneeling the, ball there's a huge brawl in the end. 1216 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 18: Zone so there was just so much, too and it's 1217 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 18: just such a, great you, know perspective to fans too 1218 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 18: for a game to watch of what it's all about to, 1219 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 18: play you, know you, know to play the game of. 1220 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 18: Football just that game brought everything to the. Table and 1221 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 18: what was great it was such a team. Win julian 1222 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 18: had a, Touchdown Brandon LaFell had a, Touchdown amandola had a. 1223 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 18: TOUCHDOWN i had a, touchdown And Shane veren went for 1224 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 18: about eleven catches right around there for LIKE i don't, 1225 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 18: know one hundred something YARDS i, think but he had 1226 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 18: a big impact even though he didn't score a touchdown. 1227 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 18: Too so just an incredible game. Overall it was by, 1228 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 18: far you, know my favorite Super. Bowl but was that 1229 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 18: the best? Team, no you want to believe what the 1230 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 18: best team was? THAT i truly believe what was the 1231 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 18: best one was the year after. Fifteen, yeah, fifteen we went, 1232 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 18: Undefeated we went ten to zero and then we lost 1233 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,320 Speaker 18: a couple of. 1234 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 17: Games so, yeah the Fifteen, YEAH i, mean this is 1235 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 17: a year that really frustrates me a little bit as 1236 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 17: a as a, fanboy because there were so many. GAMES 1237 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 17: i thought that there was some questionable things down the. 1238 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 17: Stretch i'm not gonna Put jami on that. Spot you 1239 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 17: know the way you treated The miami game at the 1240 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 17: end with all the runs With Steven, jackson you, know 1241 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 17: kicking off in overtime against The. Jets all they needed 1242 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 17: was one. Win in THAT Afc championship game Against, denver 1243 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 17: was here instead of In. 1244 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 2: DENVER i do remember. 1245 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 18: That and going into That miami, game we said we're 1246 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,240 Speaker 18: gonna run the ball every single, PLAY i think until 1247 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 18: we get like five first downs in a row or 1248 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 18: like a touchdown or. Something and we just kept running 1249 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 18: the ball and running the, ball and we were going 1250 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 18: nowhere with. It it was like third and, ten run the, 1251 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 18: ball one more, yard punting on fourth and. Nine BUT 1252 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 18: i do remember that, game and we lost like three 1253 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 18: in a. Row we started off unbelievably. HOT i mean 1254 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 18: tend to, know everyone was on. FIRE i got hurt 1255 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 18: actually with a knee in That denver. 1256 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 2: Game game of that, game you went down. 1257 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 18: BAD i, did, man but that was just a bone. 1258 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 18: Bruise but let me tell, you the bone bruise hurt 1259 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 18: more than actually blowing out YOUR acl and MCL i was, 1260 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 18: LIKE i was on the field. SCREAMING i was, like 1261 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 18: my career is done done with. Again but good thing 1262 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 18: was just a bone. Bruise but also that, GAME i 1263 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 18: was in the locker. Room right after we won that, 1264 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 18: game they called a holding. Penalty I'm Patrick chung in 1265 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 18: the end. Zone Brock osweiler was their quarterback and he 1266 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 18: threw a pass to the end. Zone let me tell, 1267 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 18: YOU i was watching it from the locker. 1268 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 3: Room it was not a holding. 1269 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 18: Penalty and that call right, THERE i think it was 1270 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 18: fourth and ten or, something and it gave him the first, 1271 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 18: down and it gave him the first down right on 1272 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 18: their own one yard line to go and score on 1273 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 18: the next. Play but the game was over if that 1274 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 18: holing penalty was never. Called And i'm telling you his 1275 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 18: tea go bring up that. Play Patrick chong did not, 1276 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 18: Hold AND i remember that play clear as. Day so 1277 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 18: we would have been eleven and, zero still. Hot and 1278 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 18: then we lost to philadelphiacause you, know once you lose one, 1279 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 18: game you trick it trickles, down you lose. Another and 1280 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 18: we lost To philly that, year who was terrible as. 1281 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 3: WELL i was out that. 1282 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 18: Game then we lost a couple otters at the end field. 1283 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: Advantage, yeah four of the last. 1284 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 17: Six, yeah and SO i want to get to So, 1285 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 17: yeah that FIFTEEN Afc championship, game to me is one 1286 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 17: of the most ridiculous performances by you And, tom you, 1287 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 17: know just because of how good that defense, was and 1288 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 17: especially that. Day you, Know Von miller was the best 1289 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 17: defensive player on the planet that. Day he dominated up. 1290 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 17: Front but you guys just keep hanging around and hanging. 1291 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 17: Around it's fourth and ten and you, guys you know. 1292 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 17: Connect tom just, says go down the scene and make a. 1293 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 17: Play do you remember this catch That i'm talking? About 1294 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 17: because for, ME i know you made some circus catches 1295 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 17: that were, Incredible but to, ME i think it WAS 1296 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 17: Tj ward hanging on, you who you had a. 1297 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 4: Little history with as. Well just take me through that. 1298 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 4: Play that catch was. 1299 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: AMAZING i, remember that was. 1300 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 4: Awesome it was. 1301 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 18: Amazing it was fourth and ten and our season was 1302 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 18: on the. Line aftermber that play to the EXACT t 1303 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 18: and from WHAT i, recall actually what was calling the 1304 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 18: huddle was a screen pass to the, left And brady 1305 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 18: switched to play right away and he called all, goes 1306 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 18: AND i was, Like, yeah that's, right all. Goes i'm 1307 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 18: ready to, Go, Baby i'm on fire right. 1308 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 2: Now i'm not ending the season like. 1309 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 18: This we're gonna get this first down And i'm just 1310 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 18: gonna take. Off and When i'm taking, Off brady can read. 1311 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 18: That you, know this guy's got a mind of his, 1312 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 18: Own like he can tell if a player is rolling 1313 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 18: down the field or now he knows when a player 1314 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 18: is going full, speed and that's who he always goes. 1315 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 18: To like he can read the decisiveness of a wide 1316 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 18: receiver or a tight end or a running back to the. 1317 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 18: Tee and that's how he always knew what guy to go. 1318 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 18: To and he always knew who was on fire at 1319 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 18: the moment and who. Wasn't and he could tell in my. 1320 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 18: Eyes right when we broke that, HUD i was, like, 1321 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 18: oh you better just toss his ball. UP i was, 1322 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 18: LIKE i don't care who's in front of, Me and 1323 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 18: right when that thing was hike, BOOM i just took 1324 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 18: off and they had that Safety he was all. Pro, 1325 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 18: ACTUALLY i was double. COVERAGE i had a linebacker right 1326 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 18: to my actually safety to my, left and the other 1327 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 18: safety right to my, right AND i just split him 1328 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 18: and went right through, him right down the, middle right 1329 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 18: up to see, him And brady just launched that ball. 1330 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 18: UP i was, like, yeah that's, Right i'm gonna go 1331 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 18: grab this thing and we're going to continue this drive 1332 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 18: and our season is not ending right. 1333 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: Now AND i just went up. 1334 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 3: There brady put the ball right on the. 1335 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 18: MONEY i just put my hands, out brought it, in 1336 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 18: got hit right both ways on my, right in my 1337 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 18: left right at the same, time and brought it. 1338 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 3: In. 1339 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 18: Man and let me tell, YOU i was out of. 1340 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 2: BREATH i was, like. 1341 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 18: WHOA i knew our season wasn't gonna, end BUT i was, like, 1342 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 18: oh help me up BECAUSE i can't breathe right. Now 1343 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 18: and THEN i kind of took, off like the next three, 1344 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 18: plays LIKE i kind of just chipped the. Touchdown, WELL i, 1345 00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 18: WAS i was in on the, place BUT i kind 1346 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 18: of took. OFF i just kind of lasts of days 1347 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 18: ago through, it you, know just BECAUSE i was so 1348 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 18: winded from that play and being up you, know at 1349 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 18: the mile high and ALSO i was sick for that. 1350 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 18: GAME i SWEAR i had food, poisoning, MAN i. WAS 1351 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 18: i was basically throwing up on the. Sideline it was, 1352 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 18: brutal but, HEY i always come through in the, clutch 1353 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 18: and when the season's on the, line you always throw 1354 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 18: that ball up The robbie g. Baby and THEN i 1355 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 18: had that two point conversion as well THAT i was double, 1356 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 18: coverage double covered on AND i kind of jumped over 1357 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 18: the guys and, had you, know controlled my body to 1358 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 18: go and make the, catch And tom just threw it up. 1359 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 2: There. 1360 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 18: Again it was fourth and, two and, actually, no it 1361 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 18: was a two point. Conversion, no it was a. Touchdown 1362 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 18: it was a. Touchdown it was a, touchdown it was fourth, 1363 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 18: down it was fourth and. 1364 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 17: Goal, YEAH i wasn't gonna bring out two point conversion 1365 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 17: because they didn't throw. 1366 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 2: It, now we're not talking about the two point. CONVERSION 1367 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: i was open. 1368 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 4: Though a couple other. 1369 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 16: GAMES rob, fourteen The Jonas gray. Game oh, YOU i, 1370 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 16: mean you had an unbelievable touchdown where it seems like 1371 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 16: you literally ran through every member of The. Colts but 1372 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 16: we're talking about the play where you Threw. 1373 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Sergio you threw. 1374 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 2: Out of the. 1375 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 16: Club that's what everybody remembers about. 1376 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 3: That, Game yes they. 1377 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 18: DO i mean that's a tight, end, like, yeah that's 1378 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 18: a real. 1379 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 16: Title disrespect to some of these other guys with pass. 1380 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 16: Catchers but you're a blocking guy. 1381 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 3: TOO i am the. 1382 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 16: Dark you're going to block your ass, off, Yes and 1383 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 16: you blocked your ass off on that, play that's for. 1384 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 18: SURE i had a lot of a pride in my. Blocking. 1385 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 18: MAN i love. BLOCKING i truly believe. That you, know 1386 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 18: it helped, me you, know in the passing game as. 1387 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 18: Well it helped me get open in the play, action 1388 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 18: and it just you, KNOW i TRULY i just always 1389 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 18: felt and believed in as a tight, end just WHEN 1390 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 18: i WHEN i started playing the position that you had 1391 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 18: to do. Both, man that's what it's all, about you, 1392 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 18: know doing the dirty work and then also going out 1393 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 18: there and making plays as well in the passing. 1394 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 3: Game But i'm that. 1395 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 2: PLAY i. 1396 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Mean Sergio brown came in with. 1397 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 18: Me here with The New England. Pagers he was a 1398 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 18: free agent that year out Of Notre dame and he 1399 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 18: was a great. Player he was a safety, Here uh he. 1400 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 18: Was he was a great special. Teamer and then he 1401 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 18: went over to The colts and, uh you know he 1402 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 18: did great things for us while he was here with the. 1403 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 18: Pages but that, game, man he just went and stopped. Talking, 1404 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 18: man he just want to, stop you, know you, know 1405 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 18: trying to get under my. Skin and let me tell, 1406 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 18: you he eventually got under my. Skin and when you 1407 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 18: get under my skin talking, garbage you know it's not 1408 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 18: gonna be good for you on that defensive side of the. 1409 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 18: Ball and that's what. Happened and FINALLY i just ticked. 1410 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 18: IT i was like a ticking time bomb the whole. 1411 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 18: Game he just kept going off and, off talking, garbage 1412 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 18: and then. 1413 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: Finally he just he hit. 1414 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 18: It he hit that, switch and THEN i SAW i 1415 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 18: noticed that play, like all, right one on one right, 1416 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 18: Here i'm just gonna. Drive i'm gonna drive your butt 1417 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 18: all the way UNTIL i can't drive you, anymore until 1418 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 18: you get planned you. 1419 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Know into the. 1420 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 18: Ground and that's basically what. 1421 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Happened. 1422 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 18: Man that's why after the, GAME i was sitting there 1423 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 18: With Chris, COLLINSWORTH i was, like, Hey Chris, conway he 1424 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 18: was just yapping too. 1425 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 2: MUCH i had to throw him out of the. 1426 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 19: Club and now great moments in. History i'd rather Be 1427 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 19: Damien harris Than Jake. 1428 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 8: Bailey Damien harrison fairly dressed for. 1429 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 4: Games i'd rather Be. 1430 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 17: Hay he's a, player he's a football, player. 1431 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 2: But he doesn't. 1432 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 4: PLAY i don't. 1433 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 8: Care i'm not a. 1434 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 17: Punter i'm not the you, know everybody's. 1435 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 4: Ring but he asked me which one i'd rather. BE 1436 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 4: i would take you. 1437 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 17: One IF i, had you, know to choose between What 1438 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 17: i'm doing now with, you, Moron. 1439 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 4: I'd be the punter to choose between being a real 1440 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 4: player and a. 1441 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Specialist plus being the running back for even just ten 1442 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: plays hurts a lot. 1443 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 4: More oh, yeah what do you what do you? 1444 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 8: Want what do You? 1445 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 11: No? 1446 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 20: Sacrifice no? 1447 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 4: Pain oh, yeah you're just Playing. 1448 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Paul's rockney over here with the. 1449 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 19: Sacrifice that's another great moment from. 1450 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 2: All right back here and A Patriot's UNFILTERED a five 1451 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Five pats five hundred is the hotline podcast At patriots dot. 1452 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Com is the email address if you want us sign 1453 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 2: up for the, newsletter go To patriots dot com slash pu. 1454 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Newsletter it's a great. Newsletter it's all funny stuff That 1455 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 2: alex puts together over the course of every, week polls 1456 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 2: and stuff about. Listeners so you definitely if you listen 1457 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 2: to the, show you want to sign up for that, 1458 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 2: newsletter go To patriots dot com slash Pu. Newsletter any 1459 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 2: any tidbits for this what's? 1460 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 9: Brewing, well there's a little off air situation we had. 1461 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 9: YESTERDAY i don't know If i'm gonna include it, yet 1462 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 9: but it was really. 1463 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 10: Funny well then included was it off? 1464 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: Color? No, no, okay it's just can't be any worse 1465 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 2: than tap that. 1466 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 9: Class, well that might no, spoilers BUT i was, like, 1467 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 9: okay that might be the unfiltered out of contest quote 1468 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 9: of the week for. 1469 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 3: SURE i have tol you do that a little. BIT 1470 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 3: i don't know If i'm doing it on purpose or not. 1471 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 3: Anymore it's just kind of. Happens and THEN i always 1472 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,919 Speaker 3: just look For, paul who like. You half the things 1473 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 3: he says is under his that's my, thing that's my. 1474 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Thing that's What i'm known. For. Uh jack and And abba 1475 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 2: writes in about, intangibles he says they're very. Important The 1476 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 2: michigan coaches recruit what they call. Makeup football is a 1477 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 2: very hard. Game success in football requires not only physical, 1478 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 2: ability but also the, commitment, discipline, determination and, yes courage 1479 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 2: to train hard and rise to the. Occasion in difficult 1480 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 2: game situations such as goal, line short, yardage and third. 1481 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 2: DOWN i could give you multiple specific examples Of michigan 1482 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 2: players who were under recruited nationally but who succeeded At 1483 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 2: michigan in part because of their. Intangibles the most obvious 1484 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: recent example Is Mike, Sandys Cristril Sanristril everett Mass in 1485 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 2: tangibles matter know. 1486 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 3: His parents a little. Bit we shared a flight back 1487 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 3: from the last Year. 1488 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 4: DALLAS i don't know what was more peak Deuced Jake bobo. 1489 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 3: In the, combine which we get to the airport and 1490 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: we're watching and we had a couple of drinks and 1491 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 3: so we're feeling good combines, over you, know getting on 1492 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 3: the plane back And i'm, like. 1493 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: Hey is the same ast family in front of. Them 1494 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 2: you guys just won the National. 1495 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Chimmians, jim he's gonna get draft. Flying if. 1496 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 3: They, were they were wonderful. People they were really, sweet 1497 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i think they WERE i don't know 1498 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 3: where they were, from somewhere in like the you, know The, 1499 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 3: caribbean and they had like that that, said oh we 1500 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 3: were so, excited you, know it was. Cool it was. 1501 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 2: Cool. 1502 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah he went To Evert high shout Out paul and 1503 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 4: uh had a really good year for The washington and the 1504 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 4: rookie season for The. Commanders so good, player great, which. 1505 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 3: By the, way just real quick like talking about needs 1506 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 3: like slot. CORNER i know we're gonna we're actually we're 1507 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 3: talking corners and and h d backs coming up for 1508 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 3: The Draft countdown, show which if you haven't checked it, 1509 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 3: out that's coming out soon first episode here from the. 1510 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 3: Studio but slot corner is an interesting kind of just 1511 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 3: position to. 1512 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 2: Consider Marcus jones is going to have a. Breakout he's a. 1513 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Good, piece LIKE i just BUT i just, wondered is 1514 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 3: he like you, know we talk about the high volty 1515 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 3: slot on the offensive side of the, ball is there 1516 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 3: we need a high Volumes like is there gonna be 1517 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 3: a three safety nickel or is it gonna be a 1518 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 3: three corner nickel that they? Run what's the package Of 1519 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: Terrell williams once. 1520 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 4: To, yeah there's there's some good nickel corners in this. 1521 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 4: Class Jihati baron From texas is the number one guy, 1522 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 4: THOUGH i mean He's Brian branch two point, zero just 1523 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 4: really good. Player but he's gonna go in the first round, 1524 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 4: Probably but it does seem like that position is picking 1525 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 4: up a little bit steam from a value standpoint for 1526 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 4: teams just because of how many teams play three receivers 1527 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 4: all the, time so like you have to have three 1528 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 4: good corners and you have to play have somebody that 1529 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 4: can play in the. Slot but some teams it's more 1530 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 4: of like a safety, slot and some teams it's a. 1531 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Corner it's a true corner that plays. Inside so it 1532 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 4: depends manner zone, usually like if you're a man, defense 1533 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 4: you'll play like a corner body type. There if you're 1534 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 4: a zone, defense you play a. 1535 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 2: Safety i'd be remiss IF i didn't. CONGRATULATE i guess 1536 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 2: one of our local, teams The. Celtics it looks like 1537 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 2: they got a new owner enough for. Congratulating alex is 1538 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 2: our number One celtics fan on the on the, Table 1539 01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: so what do you. 1540 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 9: Think we've had this conversation on the show, before where 1541 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 9: like it really seems like we're going to be in 1542 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 9: a place where private equity is running every single money 1543 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 9: is which is really. Alarming But i'm a little relieved 1544 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 9: to see that this guy's From, georgetown mass seems to 1545 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 9: be like a real diehard, Fan so a little bit 1546 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 9: of my concern has been alleviated as if it were 1547 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 9: like just like a true hedge fund or private car coming, 1548 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 9: in you, Know BUT i, mean like talk about a 1549 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 9: return on investment over twenty. 1550 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 10: Years that's. 1551 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 4: Insane six point one billion that's what sold. 1552 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 3: For, yeah they bought. 1553 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 9: For three hundred something three thirty million in two thousand and, 1554 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 9: two so your. 1555 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 10: Goodness six times return on. 1556 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 9: Investment and they don't own the Arena like a lot 1557 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 9: of times you sell a team and like at least 1558 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 9: a billion is just looped in with the arena, itself, right. 1559 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 2: So get the? 1560 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 10: Arena just absurd. MONEY i hope they make. 1561 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 2: Us did You reapaglioca's? Post it sounds like they're a 1562 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 2: little bent out of. 1563 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 4: Shait, yeah he's a little salty about. It sounds like 1564 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 4: sounds like his money wasn't necessarily tied up in hedge 1565 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 4: funds and stuff like. That it was real liquid cash 1566 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 4: that they were offering for the. Team SO i don't, 1567 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 4: know BUT i think that this guy does make you 1568 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 4: feel better that he's apparently a Lifelong celtics. FAN i 1569 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 4: grew up in The North, shore went To, dartmouth so 1570 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 4: he's A celtics. Guy but he also runs a very 1571 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 4: large private equity. 1572 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 2: Firm so so why do you think that they didn't 1573 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Take paglioca's groups. Offer you, know he was already involved 1574 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 2: in the, ownership you, know is it maybe he didn't 1575 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,799 Speaker 2: really have a good relationship with grouse Back. 1576 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 4: Well so it sounds like they have an agreement For 1577 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 4: grousebeck to stay on as governor of The celtics until 1578 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty, eight and that was something that 1579 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 4: the new guy Built chisholm wanted him to. Do So 1580 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 4: i'm wondering if maybe that put it over the top 1581 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 4: for absolutely that he was still going to be able 1582 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 4: to be, involved because you know when they sold The 1583 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 4: mavericks that everyone Said Mark cuban was going to be 1584 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 4: involved still and then very very quickly the new owners 1585 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 4: muscled him out and now he's just basically a fanboy 1586 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 4: on the sideline like everybody. Else but it does sound 1587 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 4: like this is more of like an actual agreement That 1588 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 4: grossbeck is still going to be the acting governor of the. 1589 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 2: TEAM i think if that's, true then that definitely had 1590 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 2: a big part in. 1591 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 4: It, yeah BECAUSE i think he loves operating the. Team 1592 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 4: he just doesn't have pockets for. 1593 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 9: It and the tech, bros do you. KNOW i, mean 1594 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 9: just look at what all those guys In Silicon valley 1595 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 9: have done with The. Warriors you, know like there are 1596 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 9: scenarios where it can end well for a. 1597 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 2: Team, well the problem with those tech bros is that 1598 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 2: they've got all this money and nothing to. Do, yeah 1599 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 2: they're not really running a company like you know some 1600 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 2: other you, know. 1601 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 10: Billionaires and it seems to be like that's kind of. 1602 01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 9: This this firm's specialty is making these acquisitions and scaling. 1603 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 2: Them. 1604 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah so, Wonderful goodbye you. HOLIDAY i hope. 1605 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 3: Not we need to make. 1606 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 2: Money, yeah all, right let's go back to the. Phones 1607 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 2: tyler's In. Nevada, Hey, Tyler hey with. 1608 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 20: Guys, Hey, okay SO i have some things to touch 1609 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 20: up on on that aston gen. Conversation h he is 1610 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,759 Speaker 20: you're in twenty twenty. Three he was the leading running 1611 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 20: back and receiving art that, year AND i do think 1612 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 20: he is the number three player in this. Draft If 1613 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 20: carter And hunster are gone And i'm The, Patriots i'm 1614 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 20: taking Gen. 1615 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 10: Z there you, Go justice, Reduce, Okay. 1616 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 4: TYLER i just think we're like losing the plot a 1617 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 4: little bit of the, take like what like this is 1618 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 4: nice challenging If genty is a good player or, Not 1619 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,640 Speaker 4: like he's a very. TALENTED i think he's the. 1620 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Number three player in the draft. 1621 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 4: If we're if we're taking positions out of. 1622 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 2: It, yeah, YES i thought we were taking best player. 1623 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 4: Available well that's a. 1624 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: Myth SO i don't, Think oh so you don't believe in. 1625 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: THAT i don't for The patriots for. 1626 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 4: ANYBODY i think that that's like a nice little like 1627 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 4: general managers speak that they throw at people that, well 1628 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 4: we took the best player, Available, Okay LIKE i think 1629 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 4: the best player available for the football, Team like you're 1630 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 4: not going to take like The patriots aren going to 1631 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,640 Speaker 4: take a. Quarterback if they said that Cam ward was 1632 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 4: the best player available on the, board should they take Cam? Ward, 1633 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah like it's the same it's the same thing at. 1634 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 2: All the other best player available has to be also 1635 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 2: better than who you. 1636 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 4: Have or just in, general LIKE i just think that 1637 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 4: you have to have a role for the player on the, 1638 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 4: Team like you have to have a vision for how 1639 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 4: this guy is going to make. 1640 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 2: A role for you, know the number three player in the. 1641 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 3: Draft, yeah just give them ball thirty times a game. 1642 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 4: And prosper, okay three and a half yards of. Carry 1643 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 4: ken's In. 1644 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 2: Louisiana Hey, Ken, Ken, Yes, hey it's didn't we get by? 1645 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: You? 1646 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 5: NO i. Don't maybe so with. 1647 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: What's? 1648 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Up? 1649 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:11,759 Speaker 2: Ken? 1650 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 5: OKAY i WAS i was looking At evans column this, 1651 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,719 Speaker 5: morning and AND i noticed that he was, taken uh 1652 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 5: of the. Line he had the draft, pick a draft 1653 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,799 Speaker 5: pick for left, Tackle and So i'm, thinking maybe answers 1654 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 5: for left tackle of getting really. Short i've been, looking you, 1655 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 5: KNOW i listened to the draft every, year and, uh 1656 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,560 Speaker 5: which IS i don't have a lot to do on the, 1657 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 5: weekends but, uh but you, KNOW i was looking to 1658 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 5: see you, know you, Know i've always been very frustrated 1659 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,560 Speaker 5: that we haven't you, know gotten this left tackle thing straightened. 1660 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 5: Out AND i was, wondering at what point do we 1661 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 5: know that the team is? Urgent you, know is at 1662 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 5: an urgent? Point you know they of you, know at 1663 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 5: what point in this process you know they do you 1664 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,560 Speaker 5: know that there are no answers and they're going to 1665 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 5: have to start throwing you, know this year's draft, picks 1666 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 5: next year's draft picks or. Whatever you, know we're in 1667 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 5: the in the. Process can you tell that there is 1668 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 5: you know that they're gonna that they're really desperate for 1669 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 5: the left. 1670 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 2: TACKLE i, THINK i think may. 1671 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 4: WELL i don't know if desperate is the right word 1672 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 4: the dioect, is but like the options in terms of 1673 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 4: like veterans that they could sign in free agency that 1674 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 4: could actually have a chance to start on this team next, 1675 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 4: year we're basically down To Tyron smith and that's it 1676 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 4: right like. THERE i, Mean jedrick will is still out, 1677 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 4: there but he's battled injuries over the last couple of, 1678 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 4: years AND i don't know if that's necessarily a. Fit 1679 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Tyron smith is the only guy left and free, agency 1680 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 4: and regardless of if they Signed Tyron smith or, not 1681 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 4: they're still going to have to draft a left tackle 1682 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 4: with the high draft. Pick and SO i think you're 1683 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 4: just already there in a lot of. 1684 01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 6: Ways oh. 1685 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah David bethlehem wants to know what went wrong with 1686 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 2: The patriots wide receiverble evaluations and past. Drafts have The 1687 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 2: patriots really learned from their, mistakes what traits were wrongly, 1688 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 2: exaggerated which should be. 1689 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,839 Speaker 21: EMPHASIZED i gotta be, Honest i've thought a lot about 1690 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 21: that and try to find common threads from pick to, 1691 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 21: pick right and there just really Isn't Like Nikhil harry 1692 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 21: And Taekwon thornton are two polar opposite. 1693 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 4: Players LIKE i don't see a common thread between those 1694 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 4: two guys that would say they missed because of, this, 1695 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 4: Right so like when you look at those two, guys 1696 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 4: they missed for different. Reasons so it's just across the. 1697 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 4: Board they just haven't had good luck with. 1698 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 2: It but maybe you could do a dotted. Line So Nikhil, 1699 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 2: harry they overthought it because, oh you, know he can also. 1700 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 2: Block he's a bigger, Guy he's not gonna get the, 1701 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 2: separation but he's all these other traits that we need 1702 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 2: our wide receiver to. Do then they, realized oh that 1703 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 2: was a. Mistake well if we need just draft a fast, 1704 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,799 Speaker 2: guy and they underthought it and they and they Picked Taekwon. Thornton, 1705 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 2: YEAH i think that's that's. 1706 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 3: GOOD i, MEAN i JUST i think the draft is 1707 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 3: hard no matter, what and there's not a lot of. 1708 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 3: CONTINUITY i, mean there are some threads of guys that 1709 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 3: were picking these, players but that's a good way to 1710 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 3: lay it out for. IT i like, That like it 1711 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 3: does seem like they really wanted to Kill harry to 1712 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 3: be this blocking big, presence AND i MEAN i always 1713 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 3: connected that to felt Like bill felt Like bill felt 1714 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 3: that the league was going smaller on defense and he 1715 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 3: wanted to get more, physical focus on the run, game 1716 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 3: focus on big, receivers and try to you, know bully, 1717 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 3: teams AND i JUST i don't think. IT i don't 1718 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 3: think it. 1719 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 4: Worked, YEAH i mean then they kind of went back 1720 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 4: With Jalen polk is not quite an Kill, harry BUT 1721 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 4: i would say he's more in that mold In, taekwon, 1722 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 4: Right so you kind of went back again to like 1723 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 4: another type of. ARCHETYPE i think the number one thing 1724 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 4: that you look at, though is just play speed in. 1725 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 4: Separation LIKE i don't think that they put enough value 1726 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 4: in separation in. General and it's one thing to be 1727 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 4: fast in a straight, line but can you run around 1728 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 4: out and get open at the top of the route 1729 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 4: and create that. Separation AND i had those concerns right 1730 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 4: off the jump With Jalen polk that he was going 1731 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 4: to have that, ability had those concerns With Nick Hil harry. 1732 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 4: Obviously SO i would just love to see them really 1733 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 4: invest in that kind of, player a true technician that 1734 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 4: creates separation Like lad mcconkey's, right you, know like that 1735 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 4: type of. 1736 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 2: Player, yeah see if you can figure out What joe's 1737 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 2: trying to say, HERE i think there might be something, 1738 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 2: here BUT i think it needs some. Translation he, SAYS 1739 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 2: i don't think The patriots are in a different place As. 1740 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:37,440 Speaker 2: Digs you have quarterback teams aka possible champions and non quarterback. 1741 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Teams they have a. Quarterback the rest just. Happens the 1742 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 2: wrong time to sign players is when you have no. 1743 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 2: Quarterback please stop overrating left. Tackles, okay, okay tackles will 1744 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 2: win most of the. Time can anyone even name three 1745 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 2: of the last ten to win A Super? 1746 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 4: Bowl, yes But i'm a, nerd so that's probably not 1747 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 4: the best person to. 1748 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 2: What he's saying IS i have the, quarterback so you 1749 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,839 Speaker 2: don't have to worry. 1750 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 3: ABOUT i got a Channel paul, here As paul would, 1751 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:10,720 Speaker 3: go do? 1752 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 2: They? 1753 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,680 Speaker 3: YEAH i, MEAN i want to believe That Drake may 1754 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 3: is the, guy BUT i think that there's still some 1755 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 3: unknowns of. Him and that's WHERE i feel like the 1756 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 3: question is Does Stefan diggs feel Like Drake may is that? 1757 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 3: Guy AND i certainly think That Drake may probably needs 1758 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 3: a guy Like Stefan diggs to get him to the next. 1759 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 3: Level BUT i don't think it's a slam dunk yet 1760 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 3: that everyone around the league. IS i know there's a 1761 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 3: lot of really positive buzz About, drake but he's got 1762 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 3: a lot to. 1763 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 2: Prove he's got to limit the. 1764 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 3: MISTAKES i was talking to somebody yesterday AND i just, 1765 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 3: said you, know my sneaky fear about all of this 1766 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 3: is That drake can't solve the turnover, Problem like is 1767 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 3: he going to be an error? Repeater is he going 1768 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 3: to be the may? Sprays are those? Things can he 1769 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 3: can he? Eliminate Can josh help him eliminate? 1770 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Them so here's the, Thing, so Now josh is. Here 1771 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 2: we saw With Mac jones how they Treated Mac, jones 1772 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 2: and they did limit the mistakes almost like too much to your, point, 1773 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 2: RIGHT i hope they don't go too far the other 1774 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 2: side On BUT i. AGREE i Think josh will he 1775 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 2: knows what to tell a quarterback and how to coach 1776 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,640 Speaker 2: a quarterback to limit those, mistakes what to look, for 1777 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 2: what to. Avoid BUT i hope they don't go too. 1778 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 2: FAR i forget exactly, way because this guy is a 1779 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 2: lot different Than Mac. 1780 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 3: Jones, YEAH i forget exactly What josh said in the 1781 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 3: video that we did, here BUT i know turnovers was 1782 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 3: like the key part of, it like that to, him 1783 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,560 Speaker 3: it's like all security. 1784 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 2: That got pounded into his head From. Bill you, know 1785 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 2: you lose the game by turning the ball, Over like 1786 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,799 Speaker 2: whether you're a running back or you, know wide receiver 1787 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 2: fumbling or a quarterback throwing. Picks, nothing nothing got Under 1788 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 2: bill's skin more than turning the ball. 1789 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 3: OVER i don't know how many times did you guys 1790 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 3: watch a rookie or somebody fumble the ball and ain't 1791 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 3: seeing him no. 1792 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 4: MORE i would just say we're learning a little bit 1793 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 4: more about turnover variants and like how important turnovers really, 1794 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 4: Are and what a lot of the data would say 1795 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 4: is just that it's all about the timeliness of the 1796 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 4: turnover and especially with a field position of the turn 1797 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 4: but like it just there we. Go What i'm saying 1798 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 4: to you is is THAT i don't think that there's 1799 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 4: like as much of an emphasis nowadays on like all 1800 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,640 Speaker 4: turnovers are not created equal and all turnovers are not 1801 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 4: necessarily the worst thing that can. Happen like how you, 1802 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 4: know Maybe bill would and like the old school football 1803 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 4: people might look at. It so you, know like if 1804 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 4: you have a high variance, quarterback you know who's throwing 1805 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 4: forty touchdown passes a, year but he might have fifteen 1806 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 4: picks every single. Season like that is we're going more 1807 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 4: towards that type of, PLAYER i guess is What i'm 1808 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 4: getting at. Now the, great the great, ones you, know 1809 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 4: the Mahomes is and those guys won't turn it over. 1810 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 4: Either BUT i think that there's a place For drake 1811 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 4: to be successful where he is a gunslinger and he 1812 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 4: Is Josh, allen. 1813 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,880 Speaker 2: Would you say a good rule of thumb as your 1814 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 2: touchdown your variants should be three times so whatever your, 1815 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 2: turnovers you better have three times as many. 1816 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 4: Touchdowns, Sure AND i think that the question always, is, 1817 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 4: well you, know to your point about Mac, jones if 1818 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,719 Speaker 4: we pull him back so much that he's not turning 1819 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 4: the ball, over well now we're not getting the high 1820 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 4: end production, Right so like you have to do that 1821 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 4: balancing act of like you can't you can't treat him 1822 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 4: with kid glove What i'm, saying and turn and take 1823 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 4: the gunslinger out of the, gunslinger because now you're not 1824 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 4: going to get the benefits of his. Talent SO i 1825 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 4: just look At drake may and he might be more 1826 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 4: turnover prone than some other quarterbacks for a, while but 1827 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 4: if he's making up for it in other, ways and 1828 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 4: that that's like where The Josh allen comps. Coming Josh 1829 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 4: allen lied the league in interceptions a couple of years, 1830 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,759 Speaker 4: ago but he threw forty. 1831 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 3: Touchdowns so so that's the Other my other big question 1832 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 3: this year Is drake a? Killer like that's the line for? 1833 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 3: Me Is drake a? Killer is? 1834 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:52,360 Speaker 2: It? 1835 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 3: No He maybe he does turn the ball over in 1836 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,799 Speaker 3: some not quite so critical, times but when it is critical, 1837 01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,720 Speaker 3: times can he turn it? 1838 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,679 Speaker 2: On H and what happened in crunch? Time tony writes 1839 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: IN i keep hearing about the wide receiver and tackle 1840 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 2: position not being very strong in this year's. DRAFT i 1841 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,360 Speaker 2: keep hearing the media and fans worry About campbell's arm 1842 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 2: length and ability to stick a tackle in THE nfl 1843 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 2: and McMillan's. Speed why not go with the unquestioned top 1844 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,759 Speaker 2: tight end in the. Draft look at the impact Brock 1845 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:26,599 Speaker 2: bowers had without a quality quarterback throwing to. Him look 1846 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 2: at the Impact, Gronk kelsey And kittles have with their. 1847 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,759 Speaker 2: Offenses warren can be used in so many, ways, catching, blocking, 1848 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 2: rushing and even. Passing josh would have a field day 1849 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 2: devising plays for this. Guy i've come around to trading 1850 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 2: down a couple spots with The. RAIDERS i think The 1851 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 2: jets May Covet warren and The raiders would want to 1852 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 2: guarantee Landing sanders a. Gentee you can acquire another top 1853 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 2: draft pick and draft a bona fide weapon For drake May. 1854 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 2: Ps As irony would have, it you played an interview 1855 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 2: With gronkowski during your lunch. Break it's a. 1856 01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 3: SIGN i don't hate. IT i, MEAN i don't hate. 1857 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,840 Speaker 3: IT i put it in the same kind of bucket As. 1858 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 3: Genty does it make total? Sense maybe, Not but he's 1859 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,240 Speaker 3: a great. Player he would help the. TEAM i really like. 1860 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 3: HIM i think he has a presence about. 1861 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 10: Him and has two great bets to learn, from. 1862 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 3: Two Great but you, know work behind those guys doesn't 1863 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 3: have to necessarily be thrown in the. FIRE i, MEAN 1864 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 3: i do think that's also somewhat of a little bit 1865 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,600 Speaker 3: of we got these two, guys you, know not just 1866 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 3: yet with, That BUT i would say it's you, KNOW 1867 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 3: i don't people say that the wide receiver class, thinks 1868 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 3: BUT i think that's just more about the top. End 1869 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 3: and again every year they're a guys second third round 1870 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 3: that are appealing and THAT i think have, speed and 1871 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,839 Speaker 3: you know you have to develop. Them they're not perfect, 1872 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 3: products but the classes get divined by their high. End 1873 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 3: BUT i still think that this Is. 1874 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 2: So if he ended up Taking Tyler warren at six 1875 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 2: and you got another second round, pick would you be 1876 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,720 Speaker 2: happy with? 1877 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 7: That? 1878 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,640 Speaker 4: YEAH i think my hesitation With Tyler warren just to 1879 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,439 Speaker 4: Play devil's, ADVOCATE i guess is he just laid out 1880 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 4: all the good things that he. Does is he a 1881 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 4: jack of all trades and a master of No because With, 1882 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,760 Speaker 4: warren WHEN i watch him, PLAY i don't know if 1883 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 4: he's a dynamic. RECEIVER i think he's a good receiver 1884 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 4: and he can definitely use his size down the field 1885 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 4: and do that sort of. Thing he's gonna be a 1886 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 4: really good red zone weapon as well for the team 1887 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 4: that drafts. Him but he mentions Brock bowers like Brock 1888 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 4: bowers moves at a different speed than everybody else on the, 1889 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 4: field AND i don't necessarily see that With Tyler. Warren 1890 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 4: so my fear With Tyler warren IF i were to 1891 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 4: try to talk myself into it is, Like, okay, yeah 1892 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,759 Speaker 4: he can do all these, things but that's his, Value 1893 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 4: like his value is in his. Versatility it's not necessarily In, 1894 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 4: okay we're gonna be able to run the offense through this. 1895 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 4: Player so you, know is He Brock bowers or is HE. Tj? 1896 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 4: Howkinson BECAUSE. Tj hawkinson also went in the top ten 1897 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 4: because he could do everything. Well he could, block he 1898 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,559 Speaker 4: could catch the. Ball you, know he was a versatile. 1899 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 4: Guy and he's been a SOLID nfl tight, end but 1900 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 4: he's never been like an all pro caliber tight. 1901 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 2: End does it make you salivate, Thinking, okay you Got 1902 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry warren on the. Field at the same, time 1903 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 2: we're back to that too tight end. 1904 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 4: OFFENSE i just think you're still, Slow LIKE i think 1905 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,439 Speaker 4: that would be my concern is that you're still slow on, 1906 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 4: Offense like who's who's taking the top off the? Defense 1907 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 4: like who's Throwing we've already, Signed, OKAY i mean not 1908 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 4: you're selling me more if that's the, case but like 1909 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 4: it just that would be my one concern With Tyler, 1910 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 4: Warren like high ranking the total, opposite right we. 1911 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,639 Speaker 3: GO i REALLY i really like what you're saying about. 1912 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 3: Him AND i would just piggyback on that and say 1913 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to BULLY nfl players like 1914 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 3: he bullied college, kids like you, know he was just 1915 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 3: a beast down the field WHERE i was, like get 1916 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,280 Speaker 3: out of my. Way you, know he's not gonna be 1917 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 3: able to do. That BUT i Think evan makes great 1918 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 3: points about About. Warren it's it's that's exactly WHAT i 1919 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,560 Speaker 3: would see, too mitching. 1920 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 2: All that he writes in. It just wanted to write 1921 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: in and share my opinion on the backwards. Hat as 1922 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 2: a twenty four year, old IF i ever put my 1923 01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 2: hat on, BACKWARDS i immediately feel like an a. Hole 1924 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 2: SO i completely understand Where fred's coming. From, however AND 1925 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 2: i know you will all find this. Contradictory as an 1926 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 2: assistant football, coach my go to headwear for practice will 1927 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 2: always be the upside down and backwards visor upside down and. 1928 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,799 Speaker 3: BACKWARDS i know it's. 1929 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Ugly and not practical at, all but you can't beat, 1930 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 2: that look you. GOTTA i can Feel fred oozing with 1931 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 2: disgust as he reads. This if you're in the bottom 1932 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 2: of the ninth and you need a, RALLY i could, 1933 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 2: see but, like why is it inside. Out, yeah what's 1934 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 2: the purpose of the upside down? Backwards a? 1935 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 3: Visor could we Get andy to rule on. This he's 1936 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:34,800 Speaker 3: a big visor. 1937 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 4: Guy he's a big. 1938 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 3: Vibe he would have he would have some takes on. 1939 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 10: THIS i need to see it like you, have like 1940 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 10: a whole little shelf in the. 1941 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,640 Speaker 3: Back you can keep stuff, in keeping his flow up 1942 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,799 Speaker 3: out of. It, plus it's not protecting. 1943 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 10: It if you like, IT i love. 1944 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 4: IT i like it to. 1945 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 3: You you gotta have a good. Coaching, look everybody knows. 1946 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 3: ME i keep databases on those. Things if you want 1947 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 3: me to do database on, you just. 1948 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 2: So another one that just came. IN i don't know 1949 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,000 Speaker 2: if these people are in, cahoots But pick From connecticut 1950 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 2: writes In my wife was listening last week on the 1951 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 2: backwards hat, discussion and she agreed With. Alex she said 1952 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 2: the outfit she most finds attractive on me is, hoodie 1953 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 2: gray sweatpants and a backwards. Hat we're both thirty clich 1954 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,719 Speaker 2: she Said. Alex she Said alex is one hundred percent, 1955 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: correct and That fred is. OLD i did mention That 1956 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 2: alex watches live sports with subtitles which an old, person 1957 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,760 Speaker 2: which is an old person. Move so her opinion can't 1958 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 2: fully be. TRUSTED i don't. 1959 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 9: Watch it live sports with, subtitles, SPECIFICALLY i WATCH tv 1960 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 9: and movies in general with, subtitles AND i am not foreign. 1961 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 4: Films, no, no, NO i watch it with subtitles. Too, 1962 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,679 Speaker 4: yea it helps you follow the dialogue. 1963 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 10: Better, yeah there's studies about this. 1964 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 2: Literature but, well certainly it helps. You but it's a 1965 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a, distraction, RIGHT. 1966 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 10: I THINK i understand the show better and you pick 1967 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 10: up on a lot. 1968 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 2: More, okay but there's other parts to a movie or a, 1969 01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 2: show cinematography of the interaction between. 1970 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 4: THE i think it like depends on the. Show Like 1971 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 4: i'm not you, know if we're watching Like. 1972 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 10: Peaky, blinders cannot watch without. 1973 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 9: Subtitles, ye thicker than. GRAEVY i don't know what they're, Saying, 1974 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 9: okay fair. 1975 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 4: Enough like A game Of thrones type, show definitely helps 1976 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 4: if you watch the. Subtitles are like severance like, that 1977 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 4: definitely like when you when you watch with the, SUBTITLES 1978 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 4: i feel like it. Helps if you're watching like REALITY, 1979 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 4: tv you obviously don't need the. 1980 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 9: Subtitle, yeah, no you're just killing more brain cells if the. Subtitles, 1981 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 9: yeah but like live, sports, NO i totally admit it's. 1982 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,639 Speaker 9: Unpractical oftentimes the subtitles cover like the Score bug and random. 1983 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:31,360 Speaker 10: Things it's just it's. 1984 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 9: LAZINESS i Just i'd have to take the clicker and 1985 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 9: switch it all, Right i'm not going to do. 1986 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 2: That, Lastly i'm so happy that so many people are 1987 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 2: coming to my side of the street On christian FROM. 1988 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 2: La ever SINCE i wrote that email a month or two, 1989 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 2: ago calling him a, buffoon more and more people write in. 1990 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 2: AGREEING i feel. VINDICATED i can't listen to some stupid 1991 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 2: script to take followed up by would you take a 1992 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 2: seventh FOR Cd? Lamb if The cowboys pay his entire, 1993 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 2: Contract i'll take it off the. Air he's a fraud 1994 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and should be banned from. Calling. ALWAYS i love the, 1995 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 2: Show thanks for all the. Entertainment. Wow, wow nobody. 1996 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 3: Should be banned from. CALLING i mean that's you know. 1997 01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:10,040 Speaker 3: NOW i appreciate everyone calling. In but and Color crime is. 1998 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 2: Funny. Yep tyler In New York city wants to know 1999 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 2: About josh. McDaniels is the offense going to be as 2000 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,440 Speaker 2: Precise the Old josh McDaniels offense largely relied on. Precision 2001 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback dissecting the defense pre snap and throwing to 2002 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 2: the exact right spot at the exact right, moment and 2003 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 2: the receivers reading the defense and choosing the correct route 2004 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 2: on every. Play this complexity is often cited as the 2005 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,080 Speaker 2: reason why The patriots tended to churn through receivers and 2006 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 2: why only a handful of receivers could ever. Stick do 2007 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 2: we expect that the new offense will require this kind of? Structure, 2008 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Again Drake may's strength is playing outside of, structure and 2009 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,280 Speaker 2: when the play breaks. Down i'd hate to see the 2010 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 2: new regimes Stifle may's talents while simultaneously limiting the kind 2011 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,720 Speaker 2: of receiver that might succeed. HERE i, mean, yes but 2012 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 2: it was All. 2013 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 4: Brady, YEAH i don't. Know we're here talking to McDaniels 2014 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 4: for the first time In, april, right a couple of 2015 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,840 Speaker 4: weeks from. Now, Yeah so, Well i'm sure he'll get 2016 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,840 Speaker 4: asked questions like, that And i'm sure he'll want to 2017 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 4: keep it pretty close to the vest in terms of 2018 01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 4: what he's got. Planned BUT i would imagine that they're 2019 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 4: going to be a little bit more spread oriented and 2020 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 4: keep draking the gun and let, him you, know kind 2021 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,800 Speaker 4: of do his. Thing i'm not too worried about about 2022 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 4: all THAT i. 2023 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 3: DID i didn't go and Study josh's offense with The, raiders, 2024 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 3: really BUT i wonder What bill's influence was On josh 2025 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,800 Speaker 3: and the, offense and What rabel's influence will, be you, 2026 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,360 Speaker 3: know Very i'm sure the head coach is staying to 2027 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,840 Speaker 3: the offensive. Coordinator this is HOW i want to. Play 2028 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 3: this is you, KNOW i want TO i mean a 2029 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 3: lot of what we to hear From. RABEL i want 2030 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,720 Speaker 3: to play, fast you, Know AND i think that's you, 2031 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 3: Know josh's, system like the email or pointed out sometimes 2032 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 3: known as, cerebral you, know having to you, know route 2033 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 3: conversions and you, know being able to adjust on the, 2034 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,480 Speaker 3: fly those kind of things needing guys who are. SMART 2035 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 3: i don't know if that necessarily lends itself to playing 2036 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 3: as fast as you, know especially with some guy like 2037 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 3: we get back to the wide receiver. Conversation you know 2038 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 3: it Was Nikhil harry ever able to truly not have 2039 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,680 Speaker 3: to think while he was, playing or was he one 2040 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,840 Speaker 3: of those guys that was so in his own head 2041 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,599 Speaker 3: that year of there's just a volume that keeps piling 2042 01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 3: up each. 2043 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,599 Speaker 2: Week it's kind of what they said, asked you know 2044 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 2: What Elliott wolf intimated About polk last, year that they 2045 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 2: put too much on his. Play i'm not sure HOW 2046 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 2: i MUCH i buy into, that but certainly a guy 2047 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 2: Like polk would not have made it in that old. Offense, 2048 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 2: yeah as a, rookie there's no. 2049 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,040 Speaker 4: WAY i think some of this stuff is. Overblown like 2050 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,719 Speaker 4: IF i showed you a play sheet of Like sean mcvay's, 2051 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,080 Speaker 4: offense AND i showed you a play sheet A josh mcdaniels's, 2052 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,640 Speaker 4: offense the receivers all have conversions and sightedjustin things like 2053 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 4: that in both. Offenses like it's not, like you, know there's, 2054 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 4: differences major, differences like they might call something something and 2055 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 4: that McDaniels would call it something, else just in terminology, 2056 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,440 Speaker 4: wise but you know all those coaches still. 2057 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 2: But coupled also With brady changing things at the. 2058 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,679 Speaker 4: Line, YEAH i don't, Know but ALL i know is 2059 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,800 Speaker 4: is like if you see a post safety in In 2060 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 4: sean McVay, offense and you see a post safety in 2061 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,840 Speaker 4: A josh McDaniel's, offense there's gonna be a reaction to 2062 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,920 Speaker 4: that player sitting in the middle of the. Field nobody 2063 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 4: is telling you to just run right into the. Defender. 2064 01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,839 Speaker 4: Right so like all these teams, have you, know different 2065 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 4: conversions or adjustments in all, Offense every offense has choice 2066 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 4: or option. Routes like those things are all existing at 2067 01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 4: this level across the. BOARD i think that it's just 2068 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 4: a difference of how you communicate it to players that 2069 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 4: might be a little bit. 2070 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 2: Different, Yep ryan In ocean, Side, california you. 2071 01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 3: Know, well, yeah, sure, yeah, sure beautiful act is that? 2072 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 2: Right it's on the. Side just Besides ocean is it 2073 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 2: a high tax? Bracket i'm sure it is IN. 2074 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 3: La they're all high out. 2075 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 2: There can someone explain to me why not? Exactly Brad 2076 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 2: berry brings to the table That David andrews couldn't if 2077 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 2: we're going with a bridge guy to hold down the 2078 01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,479 Speaker 2: four for a year or, SO i don't see Why 2079 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 2: andrews had to be released just to replace him with 2080 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:11,679 Speaker 2: a similar. 2081 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 22: GUY i, mean here And andrews speak for. Himself it 2082 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 22: was still questionable he was going to be able to even. 2083 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 22: GO i, mean he thought he wanted to give it a. 2084 01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,200 Speaker 22: TRY i don't think they wanted to give him let 2085 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 22: him give it a. TRY i think they needed some 2086 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 22: kind of stability there and like we said, earlier maybe a, 2087 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,640 Speaker 22: placeholder but that's what you do at this time of. 2088 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,400 Speaker 22: Year you just go and you find free agents to 2089 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,840 Speaker 22: put placeholders, in and then you don't have to you 2090 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 22: don't have to go into the draft being, Like, okay 2091 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 22: we really need a starting. 2092 01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 3: Center but one more THING i will say about the. 2093 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 3: Center it's AND i said it before they Signed Brad 2094 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,599 Speaker 3: burry a couple of days. Ago you, know the no 2095 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,600 Speaker 3: no belief or No Ben, Brown Cole, Strange. JAKE i, 2096 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 3: MEAN i know those guys haven't done, much they haven't 2097 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 3: started at. Center BUT i think in a perfect, WORLD 2098 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 3: i would have hoped that they, said we really think 2099 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 3: Col strange can be our, center or you, know we 2100 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 3: really Think Ben. Brown you, know he struggled last year 2101 01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,800 Speaker 3: a little, bit but you, know we jump right. In 2102 01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,640 Speaker 3: we put a lot on his. Plate we think with 2103 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 3: the year to develop that he can be the. Guy 2104 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 3: AND i would have liked that better maybe to feel that, 2105 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 3: way but they. 2106 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:06,200 Speaker 14: Won't. 2107 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 4: Bradberry so, yeah maybe it's just the the the eighty 2108 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 4: eight career starts in the fact that he's a little 2109 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,880 Speaker 4: bit more of a proven. Commodity that makes me feel 2110 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:20,679 Speaker 4: that he's considerably better than those. Guys BUT i Think 2111 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,280 Speaker 4: Brad burry is already getting a little bit of a bad, 2112 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,480 Speaker 4: Rap like instantly a second that that move was. ANNOUNCED 2113 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 4: i feel like every this guy staying, second you know. 2114 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,720 Speaker 4: Whatever AND i just pushed back a little bit on, That, 2115 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 4: LIKE i don't think that, he's you, know a high end. 2116 01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 4: Center he's not an elite. CENTER i think he's AN 2117 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,719 Speaker 4: nfl center, Though LIKE i think he's a starting caliber 2118 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 4: center in the. League he's a, really really good run. 2119 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,719 Speaker 4: Blocker he's really athletic at the. Position he's got plenty 2120 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 4: of experience playing that, spot you, know pass protection at. 2121 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 4: Center you, know he said it yesterday on catch twenty. 2122 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 4: TWO i just don't feel like that's the most important 2123 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:56,640 Speaker 4: thing with center. 2124 01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 2: Running genty behind on when you And moses to the, 2125 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 2: right the, right you, Know bradbury comes and heat creates 2126 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,320 Speaker 2: that wall With Cole strange And campbell. 2127 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 4: Boom exactly Prosper, yeah let's See louis In switzerland Says 2128 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,839 Speaker 4: paul pissed me off On tuesday, show. 2129 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,360 Speaker 2: And he says his opinions didn't make any sense to. Me, 2130 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 2: first THE iyu trade. Proposal according to the trade value, 2131 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 2: chart it takes something like a late, third early fourth 2132 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,679 Speaker 2: on top of the forty nine ers second to trade 2133 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,599 Speaker 2: up from eleven to. FOUR i agree That ayuk might 2134 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 2: be worth a little bit more than, that but it 2135 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,000 Speaker 2: seems Like paul is forgetting that we talked about a 2136 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 2: Second fry juke last, season and that was before he 2137 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 2: got paid and. Injured, also he wasn't really that great 2138 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 2: before his injury either last. SEASON i don't think it's 2139 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 2: crazy to Value ayuk as an early third round pick 2140 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 2: considering all. That so to, CONCLUDE i agree that the 2141 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,160 Speaker 2: trade proposal favors The, patriots but it's not as crazy 2142 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,680 Speaker 2: As paul thought it. Was and Then fred moves on 2143 01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,360 Speaker 2: to THE nba thing with that head to head should 2144 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,639 Speaker 2: matter for playoff home field. Advantage WHILE i Think fred's 2145 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 2: idea isn't all that great and should definitely not be, 2146 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 2: Implemented paul And evan seemed to completely Miss fred's. Point 2147 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 2: if The celtics And calves had another matchup left with 2148 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,599 Speaker 2: the season series being tied right, now both teams would 2149 01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,920 Speaker 2: absolutely bring it all to win that series and get home. Field, Surprisingly, 2150 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 2: deuced who doesn't know jack about, basketball completely got What 2151 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:26,000 Speaker 2: fred was talking. 2152 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,320 Speaker 4: About, yeah and that one off scenario that could be. 2153 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 4: True but why why didn't you just try to have 2154 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 4: the better record throughout the course of. 2155 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 2: Eight well you want. Both one doesn't preclude the, Other. 2156 01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 23: Okay but but you made but you made a good 2157 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,920 Speaker 23: point that you, know home field isn't as important as 2158 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,680 Speaker 23: it used to, be so maybe it's you, know you 2159 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:50,880 Speaker 23: get an extra. 2160 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,840 Speaker 4: GAME i felt that way for a. While and this 2161 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:59,640 Speaker 4: is in my total disclosure is complete, cope because The 2162 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 4: brew a couple of years ago had the best record 2163 01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 4: of all time in THE nhl playoffs and lost in 2164 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 4: the first. Round AND i just felt, like as a, 2165 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 4: FAN i was, like how does that season like it 2166 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,880 Speaker 4: ended like that where they had No, like, Okay game 2167 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,240 Speaker 4: seven was In, Boston like it's a coin. Flip like 2168 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,640 Speaker 4: it's a coin flip either. Way SO i just have, 2169 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 4: like if you're gonna play the regular, season then, like 2170 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,720 Speaker 4: have it mean something like have it like really be? 2171 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 4: Incentivized at? 2172 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,160 Speaker 2: Me this makes it mean even more like each series 2173 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 2: could be something that has an, effect especially in the 2174 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,760 Speaker 2: first half of the season when you don't know necessarily 2175 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 2: you know who the playoff teams could, be especially in 2176 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,360 Speaker 2: the lower. Rung the last thing you want is to 2177 01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 2: have that great, record and for whatever, reason you lost 2178 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 2: the season series with The, knicks and so now all 2179 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 2: of a sudden they've got the home field. Advantage. 2180 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,120 Speaker 4: YEAH i just have always thought that it's not enough 2181 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 4: of an. 2182 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 2: Advantage, yeah and that's, fair AND i might BE i 2183 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 2: might be overvaluing home. 2184 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah But i'm like with you though that 2185 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,720 Speaker 4: it's like they have to do something to make the 2186 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 4: regular season, count, right you, know like whether it's. 2187 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 2: That or less. Games BUT i don't think they'll ever 2188 01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:11,240 Speaker 2: do less. Games. 2189 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah how many times do you play an opponent in THE? Nba, 2190 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,160 Speaker 3: like because if you play if they're in your conference or, 2191 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,439 Speaker 3: yeah so you, know like let's just say they played 2192 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,880 Speaker 3: a team seven, Times, like all, right they these team 2193 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,839 Speaker 3: won the matchups In, October, november we're here In December. 2194 01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 3: January the school you, know the season scores is two 2195 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 3: to one or you, know three to, One like you 2196 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 3: start to build up the what's the season record of the. 2197 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,880 Speaker 4: Series, yeah it's like formula like THE nfl with THE nba, 2198 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,599 Speaker 4: schedule but it's it depends on if they're in your 2199 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,960 Speaker 4: conference or. Not AND i think division could be an. 2200 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,920 Speaker 3: Odd because that would be for The fred. Series it 2201 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:42,519 Speaker 3: can't be an even. 2202 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,840 Speaker 4: Number, YEAH i think it's for The west. 2203 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 2: Teams is it an even? 2204 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 4: NUMBER i think it's just one in one One. YEAH 2205 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 4: i think like you, know, like, okay see play once In, 2206 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 4: okay see play one In. Boston but, uh what was 2207 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,240 Speaker 4: the first part of the? EMAIL i felt LIKE i had. 2208 01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 4: You oh, Yeah SO i looked this up BECAUSE i 2209 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,640 Speaker 4: was also curious so on the new trade charts that 2210 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,599 Speaker 4: are adjusted for recent trades a little bit more than 2211 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 4: like The Jimmy johnson, chart which is from the. 2212 01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,400 Speaker 2: Chart, available Because i'm sure people would want. 2213 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,799 Speaker 4: To, yeah you can just google it and their draft 2214 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 4: tech has it. Chill, YEAH pff has like a fancy 2215 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,080 Speaker 4: one that if you want to input the, picks it 2216 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,759 Speaker 4: like spits out like you know what it it should. 2217 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,679 Speaker 4: Be but that basically values I uk as a fourth round. 2218 01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 4: Pick the trade proposal That paul brought to the show 2219 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,720 Speaker 4: the other, DAY i would Value Brandon ayuk as a 2220 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 4: fourth round. Pick SO i think he's probably worth a 2221 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 4: little bit more than a fourth round, pick even. Injured 2222 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,160 Speaker 4: but that's that's what the trade proposal will. 2223 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 2: Be jake wants to know If i've received my Our 2224 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 2: lads guide Yet, NO i think they're going into print next. 2225 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 3: Week or mid Mid. 2226 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 2: April, YEAH i got a notice from them just that 2227 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,400 Speaker 2: they're going into print pretty. SOON i, mean you know 2228 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:51,720 Speaker 2: you have to, wait you have to get all the. 2229 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:52,920 Speaker 2: Information well that's what you. 2230 01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 3: Print when we talked To Dane, brugler it, was you, 2231 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 3: know that comes out so late that you feel almost 2232 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,439 Speaker 3: like at this point feel kind of close to know 2233 01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:00,880 Speaker 3: him WHAT i. 2234 01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,320 Speaker 2: Know and but the good thing About brugler AND i 2235 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,439 Speaker 2: guess our lads, too but you, know the day it comes, 2236 01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,439 Speaker 2: out you print it, out you, know like you don't 2237 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:08,880 Speaker 2: have to wait for. 2238 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 3: It you, Know fred st in front of the printer 2239 01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 3: for like. 2240 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 2: Color or, not you, know, like but, Yeah i'm printing 2241 01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 2: out every. 2242 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,320 Speaker 3: Page THEN i got the big bull clip who used 2243 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,760 Speaker 3: the in cartridge Like Our lives came? Again like, okay. 2244 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:25,120 Speaker 6: Let's. 2245 01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:30,600 Speaker 2: See uh this Is becker Or backer From, Uvalde. Texas longtime, 2246 01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:35,759 Speaker 2: listener third time. Emailer has anyone discussed the fourth overall 2247 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 2: pick taking either The rams Or eagles scouting? Department all jokes, 2248 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 2: aside you Say Hunter ricardo off the board when we're, 2249 01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 2: PICKING i, think, Well campbell is the safe to safest. 2250 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 2: Pick if he overcomes the short arms, argument then we 2251 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 2: potentially have the franchise left tackle of the. Future if 2252 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't overcome the arm leg but he plays left 2253 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,839 Speaker 2: at an exceptional, level could that Improve low or anyone 2254 01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 2: else we plug in it left, tackle even if it's 2255 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 2: just for a. Year, also despite his, words could that 2256 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,240 Speaker 2: Entice scar to come out of? Retirement maybe not your 2257 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 2: full time line, coach but maybe as an offensive Line Ernie, ADAMS. 2258 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,640 Speaker 3: I think The scar's doing woodwork, Now, YEAH i. 2259 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,800 Speaker 4: Just, like can you give me two weeks in the, 2260 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,800 Speaker 4: offseason like where he just puts the rookie lineman through 2261 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 4: a boot? Camp, yeah, like just give me two, Weeks 2262 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 4: like you, know no no, pads, no, no we're just 2263 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,920 Speaker 4: going against. Air but like just work on footwork and 2264 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 4: technique and hand placement and all that good. 2265 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 3: Stuff watching him like hold like a, weight you, know 2266 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 3: like a plate From, lego and, like you, know the 2267 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 3: linemen are like doing their punches like it's like a 2268 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,880 Speaker 3: forty five pound weight and they're just holding the. THING i, 2269 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 3: mean every TIME i saw out In Dante's, inferno it 2270 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,320 Speaker 3: just looked like absolute hell what he was putting those guys, 2271 01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:51,880 Speaker 3: through but it. 2272 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:56,439 Speaker 2: Worked bronson wants suggest if we end up Signing, DIGS 2273 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 2: i still think we go and Sign Amari cooper At 2274 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 2: wells bringing In Tyron. Smith that will completely free up 2275 01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,320 Speaker 2: your needs going into the. Draft If carter Or hunter are, 2276 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 2: there you take. Them if, not you try to trade 2277 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 2: back a few spots and Take Campbell warren and let 2278 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 2: them develop into their true. 2279 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,679 Speaker 21: Roles what's up with A Mariy COOPER i mean, washed, Washed, 2280 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,280 Speaker 21: Yeah AND i know everybody's like probably rolls their eyes 2281 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 21: WHEN i bring up the numbers at wide. 2282 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 4: Receiver but if you're bringing In, DIGS i mean you're 2283 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,200 Speaker 4: you have seven receivers that that you're thinking might have 2284 01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 4: a chance to make the roster. Already so now if 2285 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 4: you bring In cooper on now you have. Eight at 2286 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,479 Speaker 4: some point there's just not another room for people on the. 2287 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 4: Roster so like If diggs has, Signed diggs is obviously 2288 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,439 Speaker 4: making the. Team Mac collins is obviously making the. Team, 2289 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 4: uh you know you Have, Douglas Booty, Polk, Baker Kendrick, 2290 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,200 Speaker 4: bourne like you got a lot Of there's a lot 2291 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 4: of numbers, There so assigning A Mariy cooper like it's 2292 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 4: gonna have to be. SOMEBODY i feel like that that's 2293 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,439 Speaker 4: a little bit, uh you, know moves the needle a 2294 01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,760 Speaker 4: little bit more than that to free up another. 2295 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:07,519 Speaker 2: Uh Jordan hudson writing In, OKAY i don't Follow. DAN 2296 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 2: i didn't follow last year's draft as. Closely from What i've, 2297 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,920 Speaker 2: heard people weren't thrilled about The Caden wallace. Pick The 2298 01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,320 Speaker 2: Morgan moses move clearly indicates we have no intention of starting. 2299 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,479 Speaker 2: Him there must this indicate we are intent on Playing 2300 01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 2: wallace at left. Tackle do we think he would be 2301 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 2: an improvement Over Vederian. Lowe he only played a few 2302 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,040 Speaker 2: games last, year but he didn't seem to do terribly 2303 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,680 Speaker 2: considering he exclusively played right tackle in. 2304 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 4: College, yeah came against The, jets was, rough but that 2305 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:36,760 Speaker 4: was his first career start and he was playing on 2306 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 4: the left. Side So i'll give. Him i'll give him 2307 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 4: a lot of those. Caveats i'm sure he'll be like 2308 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 4: everybody else in that group and have a, chance just 2309 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,680 Speaker 4: Like Ladon robinson will have a. Chance and you know 2310 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,720 Speaker 4: City s And Cole. Strange you, know whether it's at 2311 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 4: guard or it's at. Tackle when they drafted, him some 2312 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 4: people thought he was going to be better off at 2313 01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:59,200 Speaker 4: guard in THE nfl, Anyways so maybe he tries out 2314 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 4: left guard a little bit as, well and they give 2315 01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,680 Speaker 4: him a chance to play that spot. Too SO i 2316 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 4: think he's gonna he's going to be in the. Competition you, 2317 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:09,120 Speaker 4: know he's going to be. 2318 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 3: In he's still interests me. THOUGH i, Mean I'M i 2319 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,800 Speaker 3: don't necessarily See Morgan moses signing as being oh, well 2320 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 3: we're done with. HIM i, Mean whiles didn't really get 2321 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 3: much of a chance last. YEAR i JUST i think 2322 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 3: they need to take the pressure off. Him he can't 2323 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,160 Speaker 3: be the starter going into, camp but you know he 2324 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,000 Speaker 3: starts out at the swing. Tackle, fred you brought up 2325 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 3: brilliant show guys get hurt all the. TIME i wouldn't 2326 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 3: give up on Kid. WALLACE i think he was miscast 2327 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,080 Speaker 3: last years like he's going to be our savior as 2328 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:34,240 Speaker 3: the left, tackle you, know after playing right. Tackle but 2329 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,880 Speaker 3: the fact was he was viewed as a very positively 2330 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 3: as a developmental right, tackle and you, know maybe that's 2331 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,519 Speaker 3: actually what he. Is and at some point maybe this 2332 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 3: season they need to call on him to step. 2333 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,599 Speaker 4: In and in a more power oriented player, too WHICH 2334 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 4: i think in this system with, McDaniels if they're going 2335 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 4: to be what we know Of josh of downhill gap 2336 01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 4: runs and things like, that he might be a little 2337 01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,639 Speaker 4: bit of a better fit than what they were trying 2338 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,040 Speaker 4: to do last. YEAR i thought both their lineman picks 2339 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,439 Speaker 4: As Caden wallace And Leiden robinson kind of felt like 2340 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 4: they were scouting for the old offense and drafted guys 2341 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,840 Speaker 4: that really fit that offense a little bit better than 2342 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,720 Speaker 4: the zone, offense WHICH i thought was. Interesting so now 2343 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 4: that they're going back to that, Style kane wall is 2344 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 4: a big. GUY i think he's like three, TWENTY i 2345 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 4: want to, say so he can move. 2346 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,320 Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, mean and Maybe Morgan moses takes him under 2347 01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,599 Speaker 3: his wing and you, know helps him blossom into being 2348 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 3: that right. TACKLE i Think morgan was a signed a 2349 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,800 Speaker 3: two year. DEAL i mean it's or it was three 2350 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 3: EVEN i. 2351 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:28,640 Speaker 8: Think it was. 2352 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,519 Speaker 4: Three but, like let's see how many real years. 2353 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,280 Speaker 2: Are let's, See, Yeah joe wants to. Know can we 2354 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 2: talk about How evans struggled to subtract ten from thirty? 2355 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,040 Speaker 2: Eight GET i get estimates if it's a seven or 2356 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,640 Speaker 2: a fourteen or, something but, guy it's. Ten your college educated. 2357 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,880 Speaker 4: You one hundred percent? Right i'm terrible at like simple 2358 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,080 Speaker 4: math on the fly like. That, yeah my brain's. Attraction 2359 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 4: my brain doesn't work like, that which is so funny 2360 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 4: because like. 2361 01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,040 Speaker 2: So you would not be the guy in the booth 2362 01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 2: helping the. 2363 01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 4: Head, no, no, No i'm not quick on my, feet 2364 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:00,080 Speaker 4: LIKE i. 2365 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,479 Speaker 3: Doesn't tell me like all, right haven't we just got 2366 01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,160 Speaker 3: a five year penalty with what's the down in? Distance 2367 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,439 Speaker 3: now hold, on let me get my. 2368 01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,720 Speaker 4: CALCULATOR i mean, no it's funny because my my grandfather 2369 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 4: was an accountant and was a human, calculator like he 2370 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,680 Speaker 4: could do like crazy multiplications off the top of his 2371 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 4: head AND i can't for the life of. Me good. 2372 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 10: Thing you're. 2373 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:25,720 Speaker 2: Right let's go back to the. Hotline we'll go To 2374 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 2: mark In. Connecticut what's? Up? Mark? 2375 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:28,599 Speaker 3: Oh Hi? 2376 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,200 Speaker 11: Mark, hey every one day's taking my. Home i'm excited 2377 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,479 Speaker 11: to call link BECAUSE i ain't Got Paul, barillo you, 2378 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 11: know funch my chop the whole lot of. Time but uh, 2379 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,840 Speaker 11: no WHAT i was calling about A. MIKE i was 2380 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,320 Speaker 11: really hoping that we would have breaking news from The 2381 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 11: New england pages that we signed that one. Pig that's 2382 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 11: WHAT i hope was was listening to the podcast. Today 2383 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:53,479 Speaker 11: BUT i guess that's not. 2384 01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,360 Speaker 3: Happening but we're on the podcast thirteen minutes. Ago, MARK 2385 01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,080 Speaker 3: i don't, know stay, tuned anything can. 2386 01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:04,559 Speaker 2: Happen, yep appreciate, guy that's. It, okay you just wanted 2387 01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:05,720 Speaker 2: to say. THAT i kind of thought so. 2388 01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,280 Speaker 3: TOO i was hoping like at some Moment Stacy james 2389 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 3: was just gonna, like you, know is That stacy's? Music you, 2390 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 3: know all of a, sudden like. 2391 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,560 Speaker 4: Where do they think they take him To? Davio's, like 2392 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:16,840 Speaker 4: where do you think they went last? 2393 01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 3: Night you, know Five? 2394 01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,519 Speaker 2: City When Rodney harrison was in, town they took him 2395 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:27,360 Speaker 2: to the ground. Round remember that famous story? Popcorn, now 2396 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:32,240 Speaker 2: where would You, okay so You're Elliott wolf Or Mike 2397 01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:37,000 Speaker 2: rabel and you, know big time free agent in. Town 2398 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:37,559 Speaker 2: where do you? Take? 2399 01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 4: Probably, guy do you Want North End? Italian do you want? 2400 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:48,800 Speaker 4: Steak you Know i'd probably, Ask but If i'm going, 2401 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:49,920 Speaker 4: Steak i'm an Abn louise. 2402 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 1: Guy you know? 2403 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:50,479 Speaker 6: That? 2404 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,760 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah i've told you that, before. 2405 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 2: But, solid solid. 2406 01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:59,040 Speaker 4: Choice, No, no that is. 2407 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:00,280 Speaker 3: Pretty Good Worth. 2408 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,759 Speaker 4: End we've been Into tresca, lately so you know that's 2409 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,639 Speaker 4: been our spot in The North. 2410 01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,600 Speaker 3: End but take them into pretty well, right like you 2411 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,640 Speaker 3: got to take them into the city and give them a. 2412 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,120 Speaker 2: Feel but do you want it like private or do 2413 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,000 Speaker 2: you want it in a public place where people can. 2414 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,439 Speaker 4: See, Well tresca has got a private room upstairs. 2415 01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 10: Ahead of. 2416 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,760 Speaker 3: Time, yeah you don't want to know what goes on up. 2417 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,680 Speaker 4: There there's a SPOT i can't remember the name of 2418 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,320 Speaker 4: it in The North end that BUT i think plays 2419 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 4: you ask him. 2420 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:33,560 Speaker 9: What tratorio would be a good move because it's just 2421 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 9: great Classic italian and you walk in there and it's 2422 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,160 Speaker 9: just like almost every athlete that's ever played In. 2423 01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:40,560 Speaker 10: Boston just photos of the. 2424 01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,080 Speaker 9: Spot i've been pitching going there for a content idea for, 2425 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,960 Speaker 9: years but it's just such a cool visual and just 2426 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:51,680 Speaker 9: the history of. It and and it's not Just patriots, 2427 01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,160 Speaker 9: players it's it's the. WHOLE i feel like that's one 2428 01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,160 Speaker 9: of the spots you go to even if you're an 2429 01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 9: away team coming. 2430 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,559 Speaker 2: In that's a good. Move you, know you is a 2431 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,479 Speaker 2: sports city coming into a city that really. Cares it's really. 2432 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,920 Speaker 9: Cool you walk up to the dining, room it's a 2433 01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 9: first for a walk, up and just the entire stairwells 2434 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,679 Speaker 9: plastered of black and white. Photos it's stuff On. Gilmour 2435 01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 9: it's It's, Chara it's it's. Everyone. 2436 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 4: YEAH i remember when The celtics won the, Championship Joe 2437 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:23,680 Speaker 4: mizula walked out of there with the. 2438 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,800 Speaker 10: Trophy, yeah they brought they brought it to are You? 2439 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah and he was walking down The Hanover street in 2440 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,680 Speaker 4: The North end with the trophy and there's just a 2441 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,800 Speaker 4: mob of people around, him like trying to take pictures and. 2442 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 9: Stuff, Also aritia caters like post meal for The celtics 2443 01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,000 Speaker 9: all the. TIME i follow the owner of the Restaurant 2444 01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,559 Speaker 9: instagram and he's always like Up, celtics this is what 2445 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,880 Speaker 9: they're eating tonight after the, game and it's pretty. 2446 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 2: Cool tony suggests the foxy. Lady, okay all, right get 2447 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,760 Speaker 2: a little, compromant. 2448 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:55,400 Speaker 3: Like my cousin used to work there on stage or off. 2449 01:49:55,400 --> 01:50:01,240 Speaker 3: Stage no, comment but, wow she was. There, okay your 2450 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 3: friends are, LIKE i THINK i saw your cousin legs and. 2451 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:09,920 Speaker 2: Eggs, wow and now put your hands together for a, Lady, 2452 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 2: DEUCE i kind of. Lady stop me in my tracks 2453 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:26,800 Speaker 2: there just Picturing deuce's cousin Every he's sneaky with these. 2454 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:31,880 Speaker 2: STORIES i know long. Life his grandfather Was Ted williams's best. 2455 01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,840 Speaker 4: Friend, yeah his grandfather and fishing. 2456 01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:34,439 Speaker 3: Buddies track. 2457 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:35,439 Speaker 4: Legend oh, yeah track. 2458 01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:42,280 Speaker 2: Legend and that was equally, lady your. Ancestor you were 2459 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:48,559 Speaker 2: telling me about the prolific Gentleman. Scoulish that's The Rhode. 2460 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 2: Island that's what. 2461 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 3: Island what. 2462 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 4: Island deuce's grandfather is literally The Bill belichick of. Track 2463 01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,400 Speaker 4: he was, like he is literally like the most historically 2464 01:50:58,479 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 4: famous track coach of all. 2465 01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,120 Speaker 3: Time that's, WELL i don't know about, that but, yeah but, 2466 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 3: no In boston he published the Book Running. Methods what's? Up, 2467 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 3: well there's there there's a he went down To florida 2468 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 3: one time in like the, fifties and there's like you, 2469 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,120 Speaker 3: know if you go into newspapers dot. Com, okay if 2470 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:14,920 Speaker 3: you go into newspapers dot, com you can search for 2471 01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,000 Speaker 3: your name and, stuff and THERE i found a headline 2472 01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,759 Speaker 3: that was, like, uh Red sox to run Like. Douseau 2473 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,720 Speaker 3: and he went down there to like teach them how 2474 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:23,960 Speaker 3: to how to. Run but you know a lot Of 2475 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 3: Phil bessel put. 2476 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:29,400 Speaker 2: Him But Phil bessel he's the, artist, right you, know 2477 01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,639 Speaker 2: he did Pat, patriot so he used to, draw. 2478 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,760 Speaker 3: Like there's so many in my grandfather's scrap books of 2479 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,400 Speaker 3: him being in the front page of The globe or The, 2480 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 3: herald and you, know doing his his character sure and. 2481 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 3: Stuff so now he's said more about your cousin a 2482 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:42,120 Speaker 3: long time. 2483 01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:46,720 Speaker 22: AGO i, like is this something like she did A 2484 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,840 Speaker 22: christmas you guys and she just took. 2485 01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:53,160 Speaker 3: It to the family family rumors and inn windows That you're, 2486 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:54,720 Speaker 3: like wait What and then you, know LIKE i, said 2487 01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:59,639 Speaker 3: you have. Friends everything is all. Fine now it's all settled. 2488 01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:04,920 Speaker 2: DOWN i think he's got a lot of stories that 2489 01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:05,320 Speaker 2: he's not. 2490 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:07,840 Speaker 3: TELLING i gotta let them drip out over the five. 2491 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:12,360 Speaker 4: Years They're they're like a drip out situation With. Duce 2492 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:13,920 Speaker 4: for all of a sudden he'll just say something like, 2493 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:15,200 Speaker 4: that and you're, like wait, What. 2494 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 3: I'm older THAN i, look, FOLKS i Have i've lived 2495 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 3: In how old is? 2496 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 2: She that's WHAT i want? Younger, okay all, righta all, 2497 01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:28,840 Speaker 2: Right claire, writes and you guys KNOW i love you 2498 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 2: and in the. Show But alex secured that just a 2499 01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,800 Speaker 2: little bit more today with the epic, quote don't let 2500 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 2: the facts get in the, Way, Evan and of, course 2501 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 2: deuces tap that, class never. Stop please continue to make life. 2502 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:42,519 Speaker 2: Awesome FOR Us patriots. 2503 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,760 Speaker 3: FANS i got to work that in the draft show this. 2504 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,719 Speaker 3: Year you, know remember that tap that. Class what class 2505 01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,639 Speaker 3: Are we're tapping that running back class and we're gonna 2506 01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 3: tap that front seven class big. 2507 01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,400 Speaker 4: Time tap those tight, ends you. 2508 01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,559 Speaker 2: Know but, SERIOUSLY i really want that's What claire wants to. 2509 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,640 Speaker 3: DO i really want a girl defense the end of 2510 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,160 Speaker 3: the future in this. DRAFT i really really want. That 2511 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,519 Speaker 3: want them to find a guy that can be that 2512 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,720 Speaker 3: third Piece, betwind the two vets that they brought, in 2513 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:13,240 Speaker 3: the developmental, guy the future three down. Guy that's THAT'S 2514 01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:14,760 Speaker 3: i would love to come out of this draft with. 2515 01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,880 Speaker 4: That that's that's your. Position like you like defensive ends 2516 01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 4: Like Richard, seymour you know it. 2517 01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:23,760 Speaker 3: Used to be a linebacker. GUY i MEAN i was, 2518 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,839 Speaker 3: like you, know The rabel. Guys but you, know the defensive. 2519 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,320 Speaker 3: Switch so changing, times you gotta adjust your your love, 2520 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,360 Speaker 3: say let's just. 2521 01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:29,600 Speaker 4: Call it a. 2522 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 8: Ht in L. 2523 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,760 Speaker 2: A curious what you all deem as a successful season this? 2524 01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:40,200 Speaker 2: Year eight and eight more less something? Else, also this 2525 01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,120 Speaker 2: draft has some good tight ends in. It what if 2526 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 2: wide receiver ended up not being a focus for whatever, 2527 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 2: reason is a wishbone offense and. Option, lastly with regard 2528 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,840 Speaker 2: to left, tackle if we don't have, one how do we? 2529 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 3: Protect may just give me six wins at. LEAST i 2530 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 3: just you got to get the, six like please with this. 2531 01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,720 Speaker 2: Schedule but would be a six in your, eyes it. 2532 01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,120 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be a. Failure how about? 2533 01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,240 Speaker 4: THAT i think that's the. Floor that's the. 2534 01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:06,960 Speaker 3: Floor LIKE i don't know what. THAT i don't, know 2535 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:07,639 Speaker 3: like BECAUSE. 2536 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 4: I don't mean that it gets into. 2537 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:15,160 Speaker 3: EXPECTATION I i don't THINK i can find a successful 2538 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,760 Speaker 3: season with five or less, wins BUT i think you 2539 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,920 Speaker 3: can find a successful season with six or more. Wins 2540 01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:22,760 Speaker 3: but Like paul always, says you got to see how 2541 01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,360 Speaker 3: it LOOKS i, mean what if they're in all these 2542 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,000 Speaker 3: games and they lose some heartbreakers and you know they 2543 01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 3: let's say they have an injury at a key position 2544 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,240 Speaker 3: and you know that they're under you, know so you 2545 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,960 Speaker 3: got to see what it looks. Like BUT i just, 2546 01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:34,240 Speaker 3: six got to get to. 2547 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:38,080 Speaker 4: Six it might be overrating rabel impact a little, bit 2548 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,840 Speaker 4: BUT i just feel like he's the type of coach 2549 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 4: that doesn't have like horrible losing, seasons you know WHAT i? 2550 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,440 Speaker 4: Mean like LIKE i feel like that's why like six 2551 01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:50,280 Speaker 4: or seven wins IS i can't fathom them losing more than, 2552 01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 4: that just BECAUSE i think they're going to have a 2553 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:53,200 Speaker 4: certain floor right. 2554 01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,920 Speaker 3: Right if they do What, rabel take advantage and take 2555 01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,360 Speaker 3: advantage of bad, football they do, THAT i think that's 2556 01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 3: that's worth six. 2557 01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:02,400 Speaker 2: Ones let's See nathan's In idaho playing catch up on. 2558 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,560 Speaker 2: Shows just heard the email read from last week that Smeared. 2559 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:10,000 Speaker 2: Eldred there are some prolific contributors To Patriots, unfildred including 2560 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,760 Speaker 2: some of the regular, Callers chris with A, T i a. 2561 01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 2: N Melvin, claire The denver lady with a killer mass, 2562 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,840 Speaker 2: accent and of Course. Eldred whenever the horn toots or 2563 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:23,440 Speaker 2: we get to hear that contagious, LAUGH i light right, 2564 01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,280 Speaker 2: up AND i Know i've arrived at one of the show's. Highlights. 2565 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,440 Speaker 2: Eldred if you find yourself trucking Through, idaho hit me. 2566 01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:31,640 Speaker 2: Up i've got a picture of beer in a basket 2567 01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 2: of wings for. You keep, calling AND i would guess 2568 01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,840 Speaker 2: this this, show AND i would guess this world in 2569 01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:42,960 Speaker 2: general is richer with you in. It. Wow as for the, 2570 01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 2: small Shallow wenkerton that sent in the worthless, email you 2571 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,960 Speaker 2: too have an open invite To. Idaho i'm ready to 2572 01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 2: square up and learn. You until, then keep your piscent 2573 01:55:54,720 --> 01:56:00,400 Speaker 2: thoughts to. Yourself wow, wow all, right now we're some backline. 2574 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,760 Speaker 3: We need call in about if THE digs thing were to. 2575 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,480 Speaker 3: HAPPEN i MEAN i think ELDER i think pretty, happy, 2576 01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 3: right it's not his. 2577 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,000 Speaker 4: Type, no we went over this with him, yesterday D 2578 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 4: K ted, McMillan Big Winton, johnston you know he, Like. 2579 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah the closer they are To Brandy, moss the, BETTER 2580 01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 2: i mean. 2581 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:30,120 Speaker 4: Exactly that's actually a fun like well scouting thing That 2582 01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,920 Speaker 4: Daniel jeremiah actually like talked about doing this AND i 2583 01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:36,120 Speaker 4: have tried to do it in the. Past like who 2584 01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:40,040 Speaker 4: is your you, know archetype at each position that it's 2585 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,640 Speaker 4: like that is the quintessential wide receiver Like Randy moss 2586 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,400 Speaker 4: would be My like that's like the, dream, right just 2587 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:49,520 Speaker 4: all the tools you know in each. Position BUT i 2588 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,040 Speaker 4: Think Randy moss is that a wide. 2589 01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,320 Speaker 3: RECEIVER i Think jamar chases that right now for, me 2590 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,120 Speaker 3: like just a guy that you can move anywhere and 2591 01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,400 Speaker 3: can do it. All that's he's a he's a. 2592 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,400 Speaker 2: STUD i don't know what some of you do with your. 2593 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 2: Emails that the text comes. In really see? That, yeah 2594 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,400 Speaker 2: it's like everyone's yellows like. 2595 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:07,760 Speaker 3: THAT i don't. 2596 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:11,600 Speaker 2: Know you gotta change your font. COLOR i can't. 2597 01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,080 Speaker 3: Read, it only write in pale. 2598 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:17,480 Speaker 2: Yellow all, Right i'm gonna wrap it. Up all, right that's. 2599 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,840 Speaker 2: It we'll let you guys leave early for the. Weekend 2600 01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,720 Speaker 2: we gotta record a thing after, that all. Right you 2601 01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 2: got to record, something so we're gonna get. Going thank 2602 01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,720 Speaker 2: you for listening this week To Patriots. Unfiltered we'll see 2603 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:33,240 Speaker 2: what happens with The Stefan diggs. Watch maybe they can 2604 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,480 Speaker 2: pull that. OUT i would Add Tyron smith onto that wish. 2605 01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 2: List let's get it going and we will see you Next. 2606 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:46,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday thank you for downloading this. Podcast subscribe On, apple Google, 2607 01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,880 Speaker 1: play and everywhere else you. Listen like the, Show please 2608 01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,200 Speaker 1: rate and review. Us listener comments and ratings help keep 2609 01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,280 Speaker 1: us high on the podcast rankings so new listeners can find. 2610 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:59,200 Speaker 1: Us be sure to Check patriots dot com for more 2611 01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:00,360 Speaker 1: news and more. 2612 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:07,320 Speaker 14: Podcasts the world's original podcast