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Speaker 1: Yeah, rap Ate Up podcast, Elliott Wilson. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: We are back? They gave us a season two. That's

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Speaker 2: a tough negotiation. But how you feel?

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Speaker 1: I feeling great, man, I'm happy to be back. They

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Speaker 1: said we can only come back the rap rate. Our

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Speaker 1: boys going to come back if they get these A

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Speaker 1: listers up up to date. Man, get these get this

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Speaker 1: talent right right.

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Speaker 3: I think the first one is a good one. Tyler

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Speaker 3: the creative man be that.

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Speaker 1: Only took me ten years to interview this guy again.

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Speaker 2: Man, this is my first time interviewing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I credit you, man, because you know what I saw, man.

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Speaker 1: You guys became bessies at the Rock Nation Brunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, the Rock Nation Brunch with Dreams Come True. It's

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Speaker 3: so cool because I saw him we talked about in

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Speaker 3: an interview, but you know, I saw him in the

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Speaker 3: cut just hiding from people, Like what the fuck is.

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Speaker 2: This gonna hiding?

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even introduce myself. I didn't, you know,

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Speaker 3: I say hey, my name's Beat. I just say, yo,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: He's like I'm hiding from everybody?

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Speaker 3: Like okay, And then we had a really cool conversation

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Speaker 3: after that.

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Speaker 2: He respects your waves. You respect the waves.

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Speaker 3: And I also respect his encyclopedic knowledge of music because

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Speaker 3: we got into a conversation about the hej was playing

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Speaker 3: Heartbreaker from Mariah carry jay Z and we were debating

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Speaker 2: I said ninety seven. He was like, no, it's ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: I'll put my house on it. I say, for real.

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Speaker 2: Then we googled it and he was right. He was right.

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Speaker 2: He's serious about that.

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Speaker 1: He'd be like, I love the Brandy album track nine. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: he's And I think that that record was might have

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Speaker 1: the first number one record. They didn't have a number

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Speaker 1: know that Heartbreaker was number on record.

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Speaker 2: Everybody remembers doing the.

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Speaker 1: Scarface right, yeah, the tub and all that. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it was just a great vibe. Man like to be

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Speaker 1: able to finally kick it with Tyler, like he dropped

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Speaker 1: the deluxe version call Me If You Get Lost, If

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Speaker 1: You Get Lost, so much good material on there, and

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Speaker 1: it was like he chose us as the outlet to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. He has not done any other interviews.

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Speaker 1: It's what we call the old school beat out. Remember

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Speaker 1: the magazine Game An exclusive exclusives that possible twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Today it is, Yes, it's possible today.

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Speaker 2: Man. So we can't take him enough.

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Speaker 1: Shout to Chris Clancy, shout to his amazing team, that

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clancy the wife. Yeah, man, I just it just

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Speaker 1: was so cool to kick it with. And they wouldn't leave, right,

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Speaker 1: He try to kick with us all day.

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Speaker 2: Man, it won't be our friend. After we finally spoke

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Tyler's also a great guest because

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Speaker 3: he has a lot of conversation and he's just just

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Speaker 3: a great guest. He's talkative. That's what you also want

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Speaker 1: And you feel like with you know, beat Out, we

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Speaker 1: know these beat Out lists, we know hard you are

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Speaker 1: on these mcs. But his growth is I mean you've

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Speaker 3: I think it's only right. I mean, also, when you

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Speaker 3: think about La artists. I don't think he gets the credit.

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Speaker 3: Evid comes up, doesn't make everybody like yo. So I

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Speaker 3: think it's a good conversation to be had. I don't

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Speaker 1: And then maybe we'll get in by to his little festival.

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Speaker 1: I heard that's popping this ship. He's coming back Straw

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Speaker 1: with his little, little, big festival. Now that went from

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Speaker 1: like the Arking lot to Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we asked him about that too. He was

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Speaker 3: kind of dodging it. But you know, no pun intended.

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Speaker 2: No pun intended. Man. But we're excited. Man, what a

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Speaker 2: way to kickoff season two.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Let's get into a guy, get into a

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Speaker 1: man tality, creative man, the one and only podcasts. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: rap right up podcasts. Elliott Wilson spat out, beat out,

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Speaker 2: A good This is special man. Y'all dos y'all niggas

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Speaker 2: they just said, Hi, that was crazy high talent the creator.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir? I'm awesome. I can't believe you're here, man,

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Speaker 2: long time coming. It's not that shocking. I respect you

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Speaker 2: only does he have really pretty waves, like because this

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Speaker 2: doing the top of me too. We had the chest out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was look he looked great though.

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Speaker 3: So what made you.

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Speaker 1: Re visit this album and then add these elements to it?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the first. Usually I make albums is

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Speaker 2: see by Total Throw. I gotta throw some DSE versions

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Speaker 3: Right, most rappers would be on the fifth project by now, right,

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Speaker 3: But why do you think this album has had such

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Speaker 2: One, I'm good, but two I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: But I put the State sell out and there's people

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Speaker 2: I actually really like it now and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: And it also made history being the first and only

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Speaker 2: That's super cool? But none of that. I I got

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Speaker 2: one really listens to your songs. When I put dog

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Speaker 2: rap Twitter. Like I hate rap Twitter. Some fucking twenty

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Speaker 2: And then he does that. So people just argue in it.

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Speaker 2: They're not actually talking about the song. They like the lyric,

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Speaker 2: Then they start arguing. Then they start bringing up numbers, right,

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Speaker 2: the main conversation on Twitter about numbers views, a Spotify

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Speaker 2: some nineteen year old who's making music now, who's now

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, it affects the art. Yeah, it affects

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Speaker 2: And people will be like, bro, I saw comming. Someone's

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't exist without come on, like q Tip is

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Speaker 2: That's his true lifestyle that he lives. That might not

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Speaker 2: if you get lost. That mirror the way that I

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Speaker 1: Because at least always say like Rick Ross does like

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Speaker 1: What you get criticism for that someone something like you said,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, the fuck you crying for you? Weird though

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Speaker 2: Like so it's really interesting. And that's why I said.

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Speaker 2: say it's inspiring. The duality tiring, that's what that means.

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Speaker 1: Like what made you go there with it? Like what

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Speaker 2: It was idea I had twenty twenty one when I

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Speaker 2: always busy, and that's what I'm like, I'm sorry I

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Speaker 2: I'll spend an hour with her and it feels like

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Speaker 2: fuck that. I just want to kick it with my

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing, but I'm like, damn, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: We're not as close as the idea of what some

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Speaker 2: that's what that is. It's me just like, hey, that's life, nigga.

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Speaker 1: Some of it's like some of its genuine apology and

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Speaker 1: some of its sarcasm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like some of us like eat my whole pussy.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk about the treatment of that video, because

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I dude, I had that video idea in

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00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: twin on me one. When I first made the rough

433
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: draft of the song, I was like, oh, this will

434
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: be super sick and it's one of those things where

435
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm like with Tara and Punch, those are that's my

436
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: DP and video producer who we've I've been with since Yonkers,

437
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: and every like three months I'm like, yo, I'm a

438
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: regret not doing this, and they're like, come on, let's

439
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: fucking do it, and it's shit happing it as I

440
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: And finally it was like, yo, we can't not do

441
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: this video. I do not want to be forty three

442
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: with a fucking seven year old running around like fuck,

443
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: I should have did the video. So we got it

444
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: done and literally the day before we shot it almost candid,

445
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: almost candid literally because I was like, it's a hair

446
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: away from being creative and corny is like sometimes right here,

447
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's a hair away from being

448
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: a little cornball. But I changed something last minute. It

449
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: ended up being like one of my best videos. Fuck

450
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: video is one of my best offerings as an artist

451
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 2: or whatever to date, and I'm so happy we fucking

452
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: went through with that, and that was our longest shoot.

453
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: That was our longest fucking She ain't leave that bitch

454
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: to like two am right, ponk. She was crazy and.

455
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: Your mom's in the video too. She makes a little quicker.

456
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: Nigga, that's not mama. I cast a nigga that I

457
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: was like, oh that was mom. Duke's no, no, no,

458
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't. I try to keep family as private as possible.

459
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: Did not put her in the video. So niggas, you

460
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: can lead a comment like, oh my god, I thought

461
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: that was Tyler Mama. I don't know that lady.

462
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: But at the end of the video, Tyler Bowler got

463
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: beat to a buddy bloody pope, right, like, who was

464
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: that PERSONA?

465
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: That's just me. That's just just me, the nigga that

466
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: wakes up in the morning like, oh damn, I got

467
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: a piss.

468
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: It's me bear, So call we got lost. We get

469
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: introduced to this guy, Tyler bowl Like, who's this guy?

470
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: Who's this origin story? Like where's he come from?

471
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: A lot of folks think that the name boud Layer

472
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 2: comes from the poet nigga. I don't know shit about that, nigga.

473
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: It's this show called Limity, Snigkets and Unfortunate Events. It's

474
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: this book I used to read when I was in

475
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: eighth grade and Jim Carrey did the movie See eighth

476
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: Grade two thousand and four. I think the movie came

477
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: out two thousand and five with Jim Carrey. Sorry, I'm

478
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: gonna have to google that. That's correct.

479
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: That's what we you do. Want to wrap Raid Up podcast.

480
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: We fact checked journalism. Gotta make sure it's right. A

481
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: lot of people said online that they thought it was

482
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: like The Poet or something.

483
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that I came out December seventeen, two

484
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: thousand and four, but I've seen it in two thousand

485
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: and five. Yeah, I and the kids are called their

486
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: last name, they're called the Bode Layers, and I really

487
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: really love their dynamic because they're like orphans, but like

488
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: they still get shit done. And the dynamic is you

489
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: have one who is the idea person who knows they're

490
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: the idea person. They don't try to build shit, they

491
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: don't try like they're the idea person. And you have

492
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: the brother who's like, Okay, I'm gonna figure out all

493
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: the information to get it done like a producer like

494
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: and I love that he stays in his pocket. And

495
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 2: then the baby is the builder and go the fuck

496
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: by the idea. They just execute it. And I really

497
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: love that dynamic. And I love that show a lot.

498
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: And I always thought they had this regal sense to them,

499
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: even though niggas have no parents, but they travel and

500
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: have all this information. And I was so enamored with

501
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: it that I just put Tyler Boda lair just I

502
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: think in like an Instagram bio one day, just for fun,

503
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: and I realized, like, oh, that's me when I'm flying

504
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: the Monaco to watch convention or so and so to

505
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: go swimming, Like I don't know, that's what it felt like.

506
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: So that's what I ran with.

507
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I know you did igor in Italy. Where

508
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: did you record this album at.

509
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: So comic to get lost? Mostly during COVID at my

510
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: house in my goddamn living room. Yeah, it was traveling nowhere.

511
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: Uh no, no, and it's fucked up. Like my personal

512
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty was fucking awesome, awesome, some of the best

513
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: times in my life because we had nothing. All you

514
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: had was like you couldn't fly nowhere, you couldn't really

515
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: buy shit, and we was just hanging out at the

516
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: bear core human shit, just biking and like going to

517
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: the park, going to the beach, just playing chess, listening

518
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: to music, joking. It was like some of the best

519
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: times in my life and it's so interesting that not

520
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: having everything was everything. It was the weirdest the ecotomy,

521
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: like I loved it. Twenty twenty was so good and

522
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: I was making this album at that same time.

523
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: What was the experience like to live out your dream

524
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: and make this cakes to grills and work with Drama, Like.

525
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Dude, Drama is so awesome. He's so funny. He's so funny.

526
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: This nigga ordered tortilla soup from Chick fil A and

527
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: that's so fucking crazy to me. I have video of it.

528
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: I meant to put it out and he says it

529
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: so cool, like, yeah, I ordered tortilla soup from Chick

530
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: fil A, And I'm like, you're crazy. And it's the

531
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: only nigga on earth that's still wearing his hat like this.

532
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: It's fucked well him and Punch actually, but it's truly remarkable.

533
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: But man, two thousand and six was such an important year,

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: at least in LA. I don't know how it was

535
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: for y'all. Wherever the fuck y'all was at. You was

536
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: probably on the stoops somewhere in New York. But that's

537
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: rapper racist br dude. Two thousand and six was so special,

538
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: like so with La ice Cream Team came out, and

539
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: what that shit did for sect or black kids that

540
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: didn't want to like gang bang or play sports. You

541
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: had these niggas really just like skateboard and just I

542
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: don't know, just kind of being weird niggas wearing orange

543
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: and pinks and greens and shit. And at the same

544
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: time ATL came out. So you have the Southern guys

545
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: like dro and Ti and stuff, wearing like colorful polos

546
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: with their chains and their big jean shorts and like

547
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: they hats like this, and they old schools were like

548
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: big rims and beating it. And you had some of

549
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: that in La. But at the same time, Ralph Florin

550
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: and Lacosse there's stuff from two thousand and five, thousand

551
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: and six, Poust seven was there, was making these colorful polos,

552
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: these bright colors for men, these blues, these lime greens,

553
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: these oranges, and then hot Thorn, where I grew up,

554
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: the uniform stores that would sell just like, oh, you're

555
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: going to a private school, you need the navy pantsa

556
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: da da They would sell the fake versions of these

557
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Lacosts in these rolth Florin polos. So instead of it

558
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: being like sixty five seventy five at Macy's. You go

559
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: to the little hood spot, you could get that same

560
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: one for like thirty two bucks. Right, So in the

561
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: where I grew up, you just had like these wild

562
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: like niggas that you know, be with the shits, but

563
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: in like pink and orange and like these colorful polos

564
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: riding around the like whatever TI or like the new

565
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Little Wayne mixtapes and shit, they little beat up in pilots,

566
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: but they save they little scrap up to put rims

567
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: on it. And where I grew up at like it's

568
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: low buildings, wide streets. Sun is always hitting. So it

569
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: was a super saturated, colorful era as I'm remembering. So

570
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: you got that, and then MTV is still playing music

571
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: and you know we still watch that, so we have Subterranean.

572
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: It's a TV show that play indie rock. So you

573
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: got like you're getting your silver some pickups, you're getting

574
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: your Fallout BOYD, You're getting your gym class heroes. You're

575
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: getting all of this mixed with what P and Ego

576
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: is doing, mixed with what like the Atlanta Southern shit

577
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: that's going on. So you got this hybrid of things

578
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: that's going on still it's La so you got the

579
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: crumping shit that's going on. It's such an interesting, robust,

580
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: colorful moment. And DJ drama was everywhere, you know. Of

581
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: course it wasn't Billboard. That's again why numbers don't matter.

582
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: The Pack I don't know if you know the Pack

583
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: pod be, but they had a song called Vans that

584
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: was a fucking number one smash, at least in Los

585
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Angeles because everyone had a fucking sidekick. So that was

586
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: going on, and you had shows like Your Mama and

587
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: TV and like, ah, it was such a special time.

588
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: And I've always wanted to do a gangster grill, so

589
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: finally when I got to do the gangster grills, I

590
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: think subconsciously the super pastelle or robust, saturated, colorful energy

591
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: from that I associate him with is what I put

592
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: into this album because that six and Los Angeles was

593
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: just so it felt like this room, right, So such

594
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: a good fucking time.

595
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was telling me that when you

596
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: first approached him, you had even like sketched out like

597
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: places of stuff he had said in the past and

598
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: different parts of songs before even.

599
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, before he came, I went, dude, I was

600
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: downloading the most random gangster grills I've ever, taking bits

601
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: of his voice from as much as I could find

602
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: and just placing it throughout my hour long version of

603
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: the album, just so I could hear his tone in

604
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: the shape of how I'm gonna put him everywhere. So

605
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: when I played it for him, he was confused. He's like,

606
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: where the fuck did you get that voice from? Or

607
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: what I needed to do that to make sure tonally

608
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: and sonically, I wanted you for sure here and it worked.

609
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: What's your favorite? Uh talk?

610
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Pointing like he just random just holiday season.

611
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Like that man is crazy. Like people don't know that

612
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: man is out of his goddamn mine, Like he don't

613
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: just wear his hat like this, he thinks like this.

614
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: So it's outtakes a ship that I ain't even put

615
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: on there that this nigga is saying some crazy shit.

616
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: He was like, we just woke up on the pj hah,

617
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: y'all should call me DJ putdram because because I'm in

618
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: my pajamas and I'm like, he's not like a comedian,

619
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: He's not joking. He meant like this man is a psychopath.

620
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: He's really like that. He's really like he's really like

621
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: that I can't believe I just said that in a

622
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: serious tone. But we on the boat toes out just

623
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Fami Friends, Vanilla ice Cream. But he's good at what

624
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: he does. He don't just go and say gr like,

625
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: he'll listen to the song and really find a pocket

626
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: and understand the shape, like he knows the tone of

627
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: his voice so well. And to have that sensibility isn't

628
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: shocking because he's a DJ. When you're a DJ, you

629
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: have to have a sensibility of the crowd and how

630
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: people react and move and things like that. So when

631
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: you really look take a step back, it's not that

632
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: shocking of why he's good at that because he knows

633
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: what works. He knows a transition, he knows the human ear.

634
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: It's it's an interesting thing and I think he deserves

635
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: more credit of how he approaches it because that takes years.

636
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: He's from Philly.

637
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: And then when we got with him, he played us

638
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: the album and the only song hadn't been done was

639
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: the intro that you were going to do, And he

640
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: was telling me he was gonna.

641
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Do the intro. Yeah, I do the intro and I

642
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: didn't finish, and I did it, and then I played

643
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of bas on it because it didn't

644
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: have much low end. And yeah, I originally he sent

645
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: the beat that Canon did, but it had drums on it,

646
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: and those drums are fucking terrible. I was like, take

647
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: these fucking drums out. He was like you sure. I'm like, yeah,

648
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: these drums are terrible, and he sent it back without

649
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: the drums, and I was like, if this is gonna be,

650
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: the intro has to feel and sound like an intro.

651
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: So we just left it there, and I felt for

652
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: myself obligated to just give a bit of history lesson.

653
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: That's what I said, Once upon a time two thousand

654
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: and six, if I had to guess, we baby was

655
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: prusing to us. He was the best. I was kick

656
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: pushing him. Diamond dollars right on my feet. Push came

657
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: out that year, and ice cream diamond dollar shoes came

658
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: out that year. And I saved up every dollar doing

659
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: odd jobs so I could buy it off of this

660
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: kid off of the hype Beast, formed for two hundred dollars.

661
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: I met him at Union off Labra. I was fucking fifteen,

662
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: and my mom was like, what the fuck are you doing?

663
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to tell her because she's gonna

664
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: be like you buying random shit off a random nigga,

665
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 2: off a random street mind and shoes in the store

666
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: just park on the side. And I go in there

667
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: and I'm like, are you Tony X three blah blah blah.

668
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, and I'm like, let me see the goods.

669
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: We're either a STUICI or Union showing shoes and I'm like,

670
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: all right, give me one shoe and I'll give you

671
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: one hundred. And I had him in Do Taco tell

672
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: you when he first met me, I was skating in

673
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: my ice cream shoes and he's like, are you crazy?

674
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: These are expense I'm like, if I'm gonna buy something,

675
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the true story, like you was skating around

676
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: La and these damn shoes in six at that time.

677
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: And again, it's such an important time in my life.

678
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: So I had no other option but to pay homage

679
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: to Wayne and Loupe and p and Drama within those

680
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: three bars, because I got the opportunity to do my

681
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: on a gangster girls project and you killed that intro. Man. Oh,

682
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: I went actually crazy and.

683
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: Even with the state sill and call me you said,

684
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: I think this is your best album. And I saw

685
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: he said on Twitter, like What a Day and Dog

686
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: Twoth are your best raps?

687
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Oh easy, yeah, easy, It's the most me. It's me,

688
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: It's honest, it is. I love eating pussy like truly

689
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: it's kind of but almost. I had to google if

690
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: I had an oral fixation because that shit starts at three,

691
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: like I went to a warm hoole and truly don't

692
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: want nothing to return. Neighbor house shit, Kelly Green, like

693
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: I like Doctor because it is a manifesto. It is

694
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: me in every line in there, aside from the daughter

695
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: thing is the true thing, and What a Day is

696
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: truly how I feel. I don't funk with parties. I

697
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: hate paparazzi. I've never driven a hell cat and you

698
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: will never catch me in a maserati. I've never needed

699
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: any anyone else for my own personal validation. And I

700
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: will not touch a female if she's stupid, like if

701
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: you do, if you are not curious or intelligent, I

702
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: don't care how bad you are. I cannot deal with it.

703
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: I've never posted on TikTok, I've never worn a marry,

704
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: I've never wanted to sibling, and I've never worn beats

705
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: by Dre Headphones forcefully to get a video made because

706
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: it just doesn't work like that over here. And that

707
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: whole song, I just was stating facts And I love

708
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: that because it is no it's my real life, Like

709
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I love what it days so much.

710
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: It's a good record. Madly produced it. Dude, That's one

711
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: of my favorite mad Lid beats ever.

712
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: He said, used to just skate around to. That's an

713
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: old bab.

714
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Random mixtape some ship and you skate around to that

715
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: and that. Me and Rocky have a version of that

716
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: from like twenty eighteen. But one day I was like

717
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: feeling It was like a two week thing where I

718
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: was just feeling weird and I recorded that. That's why

719
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: that first verse is just so kind of honest and

720
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: like it's almost therapy for me. I love that song.

721
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Even on Dog Too, I was thinking about what you're saying,

722
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: how everything you say in isfaction. When we met, he

723
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, everyone keeps calling me king.

724
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm not your fucking king, bro, it's so weird, dude,

725
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't need the weird, Like, oh, I gotta get like, man,

726
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 2: you were a king. It's like Nigga, I know I'm awesome.

727
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't need the weird. It feels performative. I hate

728
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: performative shit. Just say hi and then niggas be like,

729
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: oh that's my brother. Like, Nigga, we met once. You

730
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: don't know my family, I don't know. I don't remember

731
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: your name. You know what. I hate? This happened at Coachella.

732
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: A lot you may have met once, maybe doing this,

733
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: Like they see you and they like, are you bro?

734
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: My god? Like I don't know you. Let's stop. I

735
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: don't like the performance, Like, just say what's up, like

736
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: my dude, Like, you're not my dude. We shook hands once.

737
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: We have a mutual friend. And I don't mean in

738
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: the mean way. You're a nice guy, cool, but don't

739
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: over act like you know me. Whether it's to force

740
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: the relationship to make you feel cool because you know me,

741
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: or three the people that may be watching the optics,

742
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: you want to make it seem like we have a

743
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: close relationship than we do. Nigga, I like and not

744
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: even being mean. I and I don't say this in

745
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: a bad way. I do not care about you, and

746
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: it's not in a bad way. I have my life,

747
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: I have my friends, my family, what shit going on?

748
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: The overhandshit you doing that. You're trying to make it

749
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: seem like, yo, man, I can't start my party until

750
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: so and so get here, Like nigga, you don't really

751
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 2: exist in my life. And it's not in a bad

752
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: meaning way, just dude, like, how's your family? You've never

753
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: met my mom? I don't know. It's performative and I

754
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: don't like it. And it's like you don't know grimmy

755
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: say you do not know anyone? Stop talking, and you

756
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: don't have a daughter. I do not have. But I

757
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: thought that line was funny because it's like I say

758
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: that line and niggas be like, wait, you got a

759
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: kid on the way, And it's like the fact you

760
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: have to answer that question prove my point. You're not

761
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: my bro, right, but you I'm such a pretentious bitch, dude,

762
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: Now you keep it real too.

763
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: Like one of the things I liked I saw recently

764
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: on the huge Hulu doc CAA. You're talking about how

765
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: you are a rapper, and I was like on tour, like,

766
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: this is the first time in the long time that

767
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: I heard a rapper say that they're a rapper and be.

768
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Proud of it and be proud of it, like I

769
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: may have had moments where I've even dialed into the

770
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: pocket of like, I'm not just a rapper, I'm an artist.

771
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: Because of it's a you get someone on like Fox

772
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: News or some writer, whether it's on a blog or

773
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: fucking New York Times or whatever, who will use the

774
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: word rapper in a way to be reductive or to

775
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: what's the word I'm looking forward to, not degrade, but

776
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: to like associate with you not being high level art

777
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: or anything like that. And I think sometimes rappers we

778
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: see that, whether we're conscious of it or not, and

779
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: we have pride and self worth and love what we

780
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: do as artists, so we might say things like I'm

781
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: not just a rapper, I'm more than this. And that's

782
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: not to put rap over here. I think it's actually

783
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: to say to the people who look at rap like

784
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: it's some low thing, like, no, I'm an artist. What

785
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: you're not saying I am? And I think that's what

786
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: it is. And I think I think Yachdy did an

787
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: interview where people were like, bro, what are you're saying?

788
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: But I was like, damn, Yatdy, you didn't articulate that correctly.

789
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: Now they just gonna take that headline and run with it.

790
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: But I think I know the frustration that he might

791
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: be having, and sometimes that's a hard thing to articulate.

792
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: But I love music so much and I love rap.

793
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: That's my shit. I get to change so many people's

794
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: lives around me with it. And I said at that

795
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: BT Award that I went on stage two years ago,

796
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: like this should changed so many folks lives. It's awesome,

797
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: and it's still young and we're still learning what all

798
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: this is. It's awesome. Yeah, it's beautiful. I remember speaking

799
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: of awards. So you got the Grammy for Ego. You

800
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: were there.

801
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: You you made it clear you didn't think necessarily it

802
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: should be used as a hip hop album per se,

803
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: because you didn't rap this last one you got. You

804
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't even go to the Grammy. It's like, what made

805
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: you decide to focus on tour? Not?

806
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I was on tour, Like I had a

807
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: like show that night or whatever. I was in Portland

808
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: and it was too much of a house to go

809
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: to Vegas and do the shit and then get back.

810
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: So I was just literally just riding my bike through

811
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: the like back of woods of fucking Portland, like literally

812
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: talking to cows and shit, and my barber hit me

813
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: like congrats, bitch. I'm like, m M what I do

814
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: and then calls start coming in. It's like, oh shit,

815
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: I want it and yeah it was awesome. It was

816
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: like and my ego was like, okay, y'all, y'all niggas mad.

817
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: I won this album for the rap one. Watch this.

818
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna double back. Now I'll show your rap album

819
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: and got it back and I was like, ah, now

820
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: you said, I mean you did rap has always say.

821
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: But I remember sitting in the first time we talked,

822
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: he was like, I got to order Grammy like you

823
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: was serious about it.

824
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: No, and again not that the Grammy is the say

825
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: all be all to say that your album or music

826
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: art has worth. For my personal thing. That was a

827
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: check mark that I personally wanted to do since a

828
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: young child, and I got two of them. Host I'm straight.

829
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: I was straight with one. If I never get another

830
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: one again, I'm okay awesome to continue to add to that.

831
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm I'm pretty ambivalent when it

832
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: comes to it. If I get another one, that would

833
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: be so fucking awesome and be so proud that'd beautiful,

834
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: but also I got one off my checklist. I'm good.

835
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't overindulge. We straight on to the next thing.

836
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: Right you checking off a lot of things on your

837
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: checklist right now?

838
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: Man?

839
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: Like you said, Heaven to me is one of your

840
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: highlight reels of life right now? Right like only thirty two?

841
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: Where do you think is like your best part of

842
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: your existence so far?

843
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not big on like, oh, I miss the

844
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: days like bro, I'm so turned right now, like Nigga,

845
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: I want to Bluestone Lane yesterday and sidecar and just

846
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: had a donut in a little latte and it was awesome.

847
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm so straight with life right now. Yeah, And

848
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm hyped for whatever forty two has for me. Probably

849
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: maybe have a kid running around or not going through

850
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: a denim phase, definitely all gold teeth, probably driving a

851
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: pickup truck. I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna

852
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: be into. But that's why I'm excited, because I know

853
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome at the time, and I'll be

854
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: able to look back at my life and say, yeah,

855
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: thirty two was great. I don't miss it, and then

856
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: fifty two is gonna be great and seventy. I'm gonna

857
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: be such an ill old man.

858
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Bro.

859
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: That second verse on Heaven to me is really dope.

860
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: It's like a very picturesque of a person in their

861
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: forties with the kids around, Like it's really dope, Like that's.

862
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Really what you want? Yeah, Like that's a vert. Like again,

863
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't really want to speak in absolutes, but a

864
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: version of where my forties could go could definitely be

865
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: my small house. We go to have the big yard

866
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: and it's on a lake and I have a boat

867
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: and my kids are running around chasing my wife for

868
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: I don't really fuck the marriage, but whoever, I decide

869
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: to have a life thing with uh just running around

870
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: and all right, we're going to an opera and make

871
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: my mom babysit the kids and I don't know, And

872
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: that's a version of it. Who knows, dude, I might

873
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: be fucking bald with a belly gut making heart at

874
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: that time. Who fucking knows. But that's a version that

875
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm super okay with that.

876
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: And that freestyle thing it was really dope too, was like, dude.

877
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: I fucked up. I fucked the flow up, fucking I

878
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: bring it back like that was received that yeah, because

879
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: I know how to freestyle, so I actually fucked up

880
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: there and we kept it because it was honest and

881
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: I like it. It felt good though, it felt awesome.

882
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: That last verse I love so much because just thinking

883
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: back at seventeen again, context like first verses where I'm at,

884
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: second is where I probably end up, and then the

885
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: third is like gave me contexts like oh, man, like

886
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: me and Jasper really was just like taking the bus

887
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: to random spots and that was just me and him

888
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: on a plane, like I don't know that.

889
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Shit's so cool to me or it was also cool

890
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 3: hearing young Boy on the album as well.

891
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: Man, he's so nice. He's such a sweetheart for real,

892
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: he's really a sweetheart like people think he's like like

893
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: he's sweet, Like, dude, we got ice cream, he wants

894
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: to go finished car shopping. So nice. He sent me

895
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: that verse within a day, I asked him like, yo,

896
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: I kind of got this idea. I want to do this.

897
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Not only did he deliver it for me and sounded great,

898
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: he asked me like, is this okay? Is it good?

899
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, and he stayed on topic. Get a

900
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: lot of these guys now who just punch in and

901
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: can't even stay on fucking topic of a song. And

902
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: he not only stayed on topic, he just sounded so great.

903
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: And when I made that, I just knew I wanted

904
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 2: that Louisiana draw tone, that that accent over over that loop.

905
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: He sounds great, Yeah he did.

906
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: I think that surprised a lot of people, having young

907
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: boy on the toddle of the creative albums like Worlds Collide.

908
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: It just kind of was unexpected. It's always funny to

909
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: me when people are super super surprised and people forget that,

910
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: like I am a producer, like so like when you're

911
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: a producer, you just kind of like know, like heygg

912
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: put that, do that, and it's with my musical knowledge

913
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: and how much I love it. Like if you take

914
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: a step back, it's not that shocking. But at surface level,

915
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: I guess people wouldn't expect someone like me to even

916
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: want to associate with a young boy. But I love

917
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: that shit, like he's so he's a sweetheart man.

918
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: Or like when you produce for Westside Gun people, we

919
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: weren't expecting that, bro, which.

920
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: Is crazy, Like Nigga, I am a rat, I am

921
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 2: a hip hop and right now that is the most

922
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: potent crack cocaine hip. But like that niggas from Buffalo,

923
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean that is rap music.

924
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Man, what about this artistic run, like you make it

925
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: clear like flower Boys a change right, Like you're hitting

926
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: your new plateau, a new zenith right and it's running

927
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: on with the last three albums, Like what do you

928
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: attribute it to? Like this run you're on right now?

929
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: Focus, I'm really good. I'm not afraid of change. And

930
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just dialed in and just trying to

931
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: make shit that I'm a fan of at the highest

932
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: execution that I possibly can. I think, I don't know.

933
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: I just I don't think people be trying to execute

934
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: things at the best that they can't because it's quick.

935
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Niggas hit niggas that So, like I was some interviews,

936
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 2: some dude was like, yeah, I go to the studio

937
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: and I knocked shit five six songs out of night

938
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, that's fucking weird. Like sometimes you

939
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: could be in the mode and just be knocking verses out.

940
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: But I'm like, dude, what it's some kid who thinks

941
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: like damn or someone I guess I'm saying, kid, it's

942
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: someone who sees that, like, damn, when I go to studio,

943
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: I need to be having a work ethic like that.

944
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, that same energy could go into

945
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: a three minute thing that's the greatest thing of all time.

946
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: So then people start thinking like damn, I gotta work

947
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: out of work, so they don't want to give shit

948
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: the time. But I'm like, no, give shit the time,

949
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: whether y're out Sniody Angelo, the Nigga Voodoo and Black

950
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: Messiah bro that was a decade like and Black Masiah

951
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: was great. Quin Tarantino take ten years to do things

952
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: like the idea that you got to put shit quick

953
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: because we see its fucking so stupid, and I think

954
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: everyone should work on their time. Fuck the fans, fuck

955
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: your mom, fuck your family, fuck your friends. To tell

956
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: your label to suck your dick. You gotta do your

957
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: shit for you, right.

958
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: You also said fuck the critics on Manifesto, man like

959
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: you fired back at them, like addressing social issues and

960
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

961
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: Do you feel like bruh niggas be active again? That's

962
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: why I like the Limited Snicketts show because and this

963
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: is just my personal opinion. I'm not saying this as

964
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: an absolute I'm not saying right or wrong. When tom

965
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: Ston's happening was doing the protests and shit and niggas

966
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: coming at certain people for not really being in the streets,

967
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: It's like, bruh, it's a team. Some people are there

968
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: to donate funds. Some people are there to make the

969
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: best signage. Some people are there to bring everyone together.

970
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: Some people are footstolds and they're supposed to be there

971
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: to in the presence and be marching. Some people are

972
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: there to be the one with the megaphone having the

973
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: speech in the microphone because they're articulate and know how

974
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: to get thoughts out. Not everyone is supposed to do

975
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: every job. And the limited snickets showed the three kids.

976
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: One's the idea person. One looks all the information on

977
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: how to actually execute it, and it's a person who

978
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: builds it and actually executes it. And that that's what

979
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: I went there, and niggas bringing up like old lyrics

980
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: and shit of mine, like trying to get me out

981
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: of here, like bitch I was for real, cancel Nigga.

982
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't I got kicked out of countries like sucking

983
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: old dick, Like couldn't Tory Nigga's talking to me about

984
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: and you know it's crazy y'all sitting here and we

985
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: all parading my success and accolades and Tyler, you've done

986
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: so great. Da da. What if I was a bitch

987
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: and I let the niggas get me out of here

988
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, we wouldn't be here now. We wouldn't

989
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: have a whole generation of people being themselves, We wouldn't

990
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: have so many things if I let these niggas get

991
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: me out of here in twenty twelve. So I say

992
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: that still to this day, like don't let flower boy

993
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: in a wig fool you y'all could all suck my dick.

994
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm still on that type of time, right.

995
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: I love that line on sorry not sorry, saying I'm sorry.

996
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: Tell my ancestors. I know it's supposed to fight, but

997
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: his eyes shining brighter than a black man's plate.

998
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it right. In the meantime, I'll get

999
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: some advice while these blood diamonds getting cleaned off. Nigga

1000
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: fuck the price, spend it there, And then again, I

1001
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: can't save niggas. I'm not Superman, but I could try.

1002
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: You get through this thing where like you gotta be

1003
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: a hero all the time and speak out and shit,

1004
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, nigga, I'm with my family, bro, I'm

1005
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: eating lasagna like I can't save it, Like I don't know,

1006
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: I just always find it. Where everyone thinks you gotta

1007
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: speak up and shit. It's like, nah, bro, some people

1008
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: are selfish and the only thing that they worrying about

1009
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: is their well being and the people around them well

1010
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: being and what they're gonna eat for dinner. And this

1011
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: shit will make you think like you gotta always care

1012
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: about everything and be a I don't give a fuck

1013
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: what the fuck is for dinner tonight. And I'm okay

1014
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: with that. I got too much shit to worry about.

1015
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: Niggas got flat tires and all types and shit, got

1016
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: family members. That's hurt niggas. We ain't got time to

1017
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: be worrying about the fuck trending and ship. I'm thinking

1018
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 2: my ass home. I'm going to sleep, waking up, making

1019
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: sure my mom are right. I got an interview later,

1020
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: y'all worry about that? What do you think of so

1021
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: and so? I don't give a fuck. Bitch. Well, you

1022
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: have evolved, though, Tyler. I mean you said you apologize

1023
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: the sleep of Gold Maz oh yeah, well again, I

1024
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: was trying to fuck her boyfriend at the time. But

1025
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: but we uh yeah, like I don't, I don't, I don't,

1026
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: like yeah, sorry, like I said sorry when I saw

1027
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: or whatever, like it's all good, right, yeah, but everything

1028
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: is all good. Then everything's all good. Okay. But it's

1029
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: interesting that you did kind of play up.

1030
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, do you look at like the old future

1031
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: era like you kind of played up and the sort

1032
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 1: of bad guy mystique a little bit.

1033
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, bro, because it's fucking everyone's fucking crazy, Like

1034
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: that's why I did el shit in the first place.

1035
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: You just get a reaction and just watch everyone be

1036
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: kind of ypo critical like this niggas out here shooting niggas,

1037
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: killing people, being weird with women for real, like selling drugs,

1038
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: doing drugs, like we're parading niggas. That's like, oh, I'm

1039
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: a drug addict. I'm off the shit. Like but as

1040
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: soon as you see an upside down cross, that's that, Like,

1041
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: are y'all fucking kidding me? Everyone is fucking crazy. Everyone

1042
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: is crazy, so hell yeah, let's lean into this shit.

1043
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: Let's fucking we're the devil. Or you just watch people

1044
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this is the last straw, Like your

1045
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: uncle rape somebody, Like, don't appreciated be seeing suck nine

1046
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: year old dicks? Like what ch'all niggas talking to me about?

1047
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: But niggas don't be one other. You put the outside

1048
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: down cross like you so cracked to your fucking daughter,

1049
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Like this shit is crazy. So when I was younger,

1050
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: like that's how I was doing it. I would watch

1051
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: my grandmother like give the deacon money, and I'm like,

1052
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: this nigga's just going to buy another Cadillac. What are we?

1053
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: This whole thing that y'all are fucking doing makes no sense.

1054
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm seventeen seeing all this shit and

1055
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, hell yeah, we're putting upside down crosses on everything.

1056
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: To watch this older generation of black folk that I

1057
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 2: grew up around freak out. And I'm like, oh, that's

1058
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: what y'all worried about. This shit that some some dudes

1059
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: from Europe putting our ancestors head and you following that

1060
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: for some nigga you never met. But the real issues

1061
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: you only want to talk about, y'all crazy. Hey, let's

1062
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: keep saying the craziest shit, right, Let's keep saying the

1063
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: most Outland is shit possible, right, That's why our future

1064
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 2: had that energy because we really just were like, suck

1065
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: all of our dicks. Man, But your crew is popping

1066
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: out here.

1067
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: You got Taco and Dave Jazz Movies, Frank Oceans doing

1068
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: this thing.

1069
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: Sit Like, how proud are you are your of crew? Dude?

1070
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: I said in fucking Heaven to me, all my niggas

1071
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: is up, like it's truly a maze, And I guess

1072
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: it's probably rare. Just people you grew up with all

1073
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: just doing their thing. It's so beautiful. I love it

1074
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: so much. I love it. My fucking my boy Artsy

1075
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: and Snowfall Linos right now fucking Chicago shooting like folks

1076
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: I truly care about, are just up. It's the most

1077
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: beautiful thing. It's really awesome.

1078
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: Was it was there a point though, where you feel

1079
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: like you because you led a whole movement, right that

1080
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: you feel like a certain point Was it a transition though,

1081
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: to kind of put more to focus on yourself at

1082
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: a certain point?

1083
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: Definitely?

1084
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: And what was that like for you?

1085
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, after you just become an adult. You just become

1086
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: an adult and whatever that means, it's all relative. But

1087
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I think being an adult is more so it's responsibilities

1088
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: and focusing on yourself. And that's what I did. That's

1089
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: what I did. We did that Big O F two

1090
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: were twenty twelve and it was awesome, great, so the

1091
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: best times of my life thus far. And then when

1092
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Wolf came. When I was working on Wolf, I was like,

1093
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, we should just it should just be me,

1094
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: Jasper and Travis, and we did that and it was

1095
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: just a different thing, which it should have been. It

1096
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: was my album with all that album. So and then

1097
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: you do that and shit just changes. You become a

1098
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: fucking adult for real. But you also have good people

1099
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: in your corner too. Oh no, It's it's so crazy.

1100
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: Like I always think all the times I should have

1101
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: got like beat the fuck up growing up, Like Nigga's like,

1102
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: where are you from? Nigga? And I'm like, bro, are

1103
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: you stupid? Dude? I look like I like, look at

1104
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: my skinny jeans, like all right, Like he should have

1105
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: beat my ass like shit like that. I'm like, man,

1106
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: I've always just had this luck or angels around me

1107
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: or something. I'm not even super religious. I'm just saying,

1108
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: mephor always had angels around me. And it's weird how

1109
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: I got so lucky with the people in my squad,

1110
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: where there's Kelly Clanty, Jenny Prestonville, Brad Ryan, Tara Punch, Darren.

1111
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting folks for sure, but I mean I Treot Wallace,

1112
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 2: fucking Joe vic Neil, I'm forgetting someone. But like, dude,

1113
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: the universe is like really on my side. And I've

1114
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: been with these folks forever, ever, ever since twenty eleven,

1115
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: the same folks, same guard saying that, like this dude,

1116
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: I met him at the Yonkers video shoot and like

1117
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: still this day, I'm hitt him, like yo, I was

1118
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: thinking of lighting like to this day, to the like,

1119
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: isn't that's man? Niggas be firing managers every week every month,

1120
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: they business dude stealing from them. They fucking security guard

1121
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: tried to eat they And I've got him. So lucky

1122
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: and blessed to have such an ill squad around me

1123
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: that not only trust my ideas, but truly have my

1124
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: best interest as a person, because fuck the bread, fuck

1125
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: the money, Like it's truly as just a person, and

1126
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: that are open enough to understand me and let me

1127
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: understand them, and fuckings, I'm so blessed, Like I'm blessed

1128
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: for real to have that on what a day?

1129
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: You said, Clancy gave me the best advice you heard

1130
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: in the sec What was that advice?

1131
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember? It was the plans and gave me

1132
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: the best he said, I need to call me, he said, nigga,

1133
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: get on a plane, go to the middle of nowhere

1134
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: and just be by yourself and just think. And by that,

1135
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: he's like, he know how busy I get, and I'm lokey,

1136
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: a workaholic, like truly, it's fucking ridiculous, but I like

1137
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: always working on shit. And he's like, bruh, you are

1138
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: bottling stressing because you're not a stressor, so you just

1139
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: push it away and let it sit. But after a while, bro,

1140
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: you will pass the fuck out. Get on a plane,

1141
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: go wherever the fuck you want, whether it is the

1142
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: desert or the damn mall, and just go be by

1143
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: yourself for a few days and take your chest, boarding

1144
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: your bike and don't talk to anyone for a while.

1145
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: And what that truly meant was it's like, yo, just pause.

1146
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: The next line I say in there is that I'm

1147
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: so scared of going back to Hawthorne. I'm so scared

1148
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: to living on those outskirts of Inglewood and the day again,

1149
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm so scared of taking the bus that I think

1150
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: I subconsciously like gotta always do shit so I never

1151
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: pour again. And that's what that is. That's why I

1152
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: say in that song.

1153
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: Even on Mass, you talk about this conversation out with

1154
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: Pharrell for three hours and it like shifted your perspective.

1155
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely was that, like like whatever was that? Like

1156
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: I was and flower Boy? Ever was that? And that

1157
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: was summer twenty sixteen. I think it was in Milan. Yeah,

1158
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: I talked about on the rough Caviart thing, but yeah,

1159
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: I think it changed my whole shit. Oh it was

1160
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: that conversation. Yeah, it was that conversation fucked me up

1161
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: the greatest and greatest shifted. I flew back home as

1162
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: a different man. When he told you like house music, Yeah,

1163
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, and that was just a piece of it.

1164
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: But that talk and then the next time I came

1165
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: out with flower Boy and then Igor and called me

1166
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: if you get lost, So like it's cool like I've

1167
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: had since day one, like Yay and p and Jay

1168
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: and these folks embraced me and liked me a lot.

1169
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: Coming to the house. It's not Da Da and that's

1170
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: because they truly saw a diamond in the rough. They

1171
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: saw he has something. But you know, you grow, and

1172
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: it took me a while to get to where I'm

1173
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: dusting all the dirt off, fucking clean all of that,

1174
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: and I'm here now. And like I talked to pe

1175
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: a week ago. Well he called me yesterday, but and

1176
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: I say that because I love that nigga and we're

1177
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: like truly friends now. But a week ago we was

1178
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: on a phone call and I thanked him for just

1179
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: being a silent cheerleader to allow me to really see

1180
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: the pom poms that I had. You know, I don't know,

1181
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: I fuck with that. I think those dudes a lot.

1182
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: Or the love is reciprocated, but there's also like heartbreak

1183
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: on this album, man, Like listening through it, I feel

1184
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: like corso, especially like the third verse, like is that

1185
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: based on a true story?

1186
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, February Yeah, February twentyth, twenty twenty one,

1187
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: I fucking met this girl. And then like that's all

1188
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: of that stuff, and yeah, it's crazy. Humans are crazy.

1189
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: Humans are actally crazy. We don't know anything. We think

1190
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: we know everything, but we're so complex and emotions and

1191
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: all that are so wild, and once you think you

1192
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: know something, you realize, oh, you don't know anything. I

1193
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: who was I with the other day. I was with

1194
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: someone at the office and I was like, oh, yeah,

1195
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting up there. I'm thirty two, and he was like, oh, no,

1196
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: you're a dumb baby. You're still a child. And this

1197
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: guy's like, I think a little under sixty. And when

1198
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: he said that, I just was like, no, you're right,

1199
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: because he probably had hit forty eight and was like,

1200
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I thought I knew everything. I don't know nothing.

1201
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: So he sees me and he's like, oh, you still

1202
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: have shit in your diaper. You are a baby. And

1203
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: just knowing that and being okay with it allows me

1204
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: to be like Nigga, when I'm forty two, I don't

1205
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: know what the fuck I will be on right, I'm

1206
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: with it.

1207
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: There's also an eight minute song is that the same girl?

1208
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeahs fired, Yeah, will Shure and like.

1209
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Sweet one take just thoughts, and again someone was like, man,

1210
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: I can't listen to that song because it's too long

1211
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: and you can't bump it, will you not every song?

1212
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: Every song is supposed to be a fucking drumm. It's art,

1213
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: it's expression, and that is me not doing it for y'all.

1214
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: I recorded that in the midst of those emotions and

1215
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: just recorded that for myself to just get it out

1216
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 2: and decided to yeah, that's going on the album. Man. Dude,

1217
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: was that fucking Dom Tolliver. He walked up to me

1218
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: like last week Coachelling. He's like, dude, that's my favorite song.

1219
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, a six foot two nigga just crying

1220
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes? Is your favorite song? He explained to

1221
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: me why, And I'm like, that's awesome that someone could

1222
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: hear that goopy ass fucking long song and like not

1223
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: even relate to the specific theme or subject, but it's

1224
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: a tone and emotional thing that they're like, nah, I

1225
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: feel that, yeah, And that's what music, movies, a painting

1226
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: or whatever it should do. It shouldn't always be like

1227
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: this shit go hard. I did the whip test it,

1228
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: banging the whip, like, how do you feel about it? Though?

1229
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: So I'm happy that it's people out there that could

1230
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: connect to it like that or how'd you get out

1231
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: that sadness? Well? Time? And like, look, I'm rich, all right,

1232
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna. I'm gonna, but no, like you,

1233
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: you're in it. You're in it. And then it's like, okay,

1234
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: what's the logic. M hmm, this is what it is. Okay,

1235
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: this will happen. Either this will happen or this will happen. Okay,

1236
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: let me move accordingly. Life's awesome. Although this sucks, can't

1237
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: control it. Time will pass and either A B or

1238
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: CE what happen, and you move on. I don't really

1239
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: dwell too much into like that stuff, Like yeah, and

1240
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: that stuff happened, and my life outside of that thing

1241
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: was so awesome. It's like, and I'm blessed. Then I

1242
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: get to eat and go hang out with my friends.

1243
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Still still sad about that. You don't put it away,

1244
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: but like you, yeah, and everyone's different. Some people will

1245
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: be fucking depressed for three years. Like, yeah, that was

1246
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 2: a good two weeks. I was like, fuck, this sucks

1247
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: and I did that, and I thought you wanted to

1248
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: dance in that two weeks, which is awesome, Like I

1249
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: thought you wanted to dance one of my illest songs,

1250
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: and like that wouldn't exist if I didn't have that

1251
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: life experience. And I'm in the middle of the life experience. Shit,

1252
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm just sad. I'm looking at telling me line of like, hey,

1253
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: but real talk, make it it's fire. He's like what

1254
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I get to feel feelings and emotions

1255
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: and like actually be human. So I kind of in

1256
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: a weird way, I like that shit.

1257
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: You also talk about it like keeping you've always kept

1258
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: your personal life in the shadows, keep people protected, Like

1259
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: do you look forward to the day where you will.

1260
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: Come out with Oh no, not at all. Niggas is weird.

1261
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: Those people are weirdose the internet is weirdos. I don't

1262
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: want I don't want you niggas. I don't want people

1263
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: know my family. Look like y'all need to know where

1264
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: I live. Y'all need to really know who I'm fucking

1265
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: everyone weird And you got to keep your peace and

1266
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: you got to protect yourself because people out here is

1267
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: fucking weirdos. And even because of it, like I hate this.

1268
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: I'll just be driving and a kid. It's like, oh

1269
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: my god, and just start filming, like niggas say hi first,

1270
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: Like like the privacy shit is a dub. So when

1271
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: niggas come up filming, I don't like that And I

1272
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: tell him politely, that's a dub. I tell paparazzi, like, yo,

1273
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. Like I don't play that, don't

1274
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: do that. You could like my songs, but that don't

1275
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: mean you gotta do all that. You like a lyric

1276
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: and a beat cool like the art that I put out,

1277
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: but when you get my personal space, like it's weird

1278
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: and you need your ass beat, And like, I kind

1279
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: of hope we get to a point where like these

1280
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: people who cross those lines, who feel like it's just

1281
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 2: five because they downloaded the album, really start like understanding

1282
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: consequences that comes with actions. Because where I grew up,

1283
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: you say the wrong thing, you get hitting your fucking mouth.

1284
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: But now shit is like different, so you can't do

1285
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: But it's like, nah, we off all of that. You're

1286
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: such a good man. I love you. I'll text you later.

1287
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a I don't do, not like or

1288
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: condone it, and I'm cool. You walk up to me,

1289
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: you say something, but I will talk. I'll talk to

1290
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: a tree man. It's like, I will talk. I'm a

1291
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 2: fool as hell. But once this pop out and that

1292
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: invasion of privacy and I'm just chilling some dude pulled

1293
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: up to me. Some niggle pulled up on me the

1294
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 2: other day. I'm driving. He goes on the side of me.

1295
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, Tyler or something.

1296
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1297
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: He's like, YO, nice car, dude. I'm like, oh, thank you, bro,

1298
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm selling one just like this. Are you interested? I'm like, no,

1299
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm I clearly have one. He's like, man, bro, yo,

1300
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: where are you headed right now? Higg I'm like what.

1301
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: He's like, where you headed right now? I want a photo?

1302
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, one that's on your business. But two, I'm

1303
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: not pulling over to give you a photo that doesn't

1304
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: logically make sense and that's not my ego, that does

1305
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: not make sense. And he's like, but bro, I'm a fan.

1306
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm so happy that you like the

1307
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: art I put out that you probably consume on the Internet.

1308
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I'm gonna pull over to stop my

1309
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: day for you to get your likes and comments on

1310
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: a photo for whatever you put it on. Because you

1311
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: like dog tooth, I have somewhere to be. He's like, oh, Bro,

1312
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: you don't gotta be a dick. And I'm like, it's

1313
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 2: crazy that you're associating me being an asshole with giving

1314
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: you an answer to a question you asked because it

1315
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,839
Speaker 2: doesn't mirror your ideal output. So I'm like, the entitlement,

1316
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping, I get it, but I'm not getting

1317
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: off the car. He's like, damn man, please, I'll get

1318
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: out right now. I'm like, look the car behind me.

1319
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: If I put a thumbs up out my son, roof,

1320
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna be an awkward day for you because he

1321
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: knows I feel threatened. Now. Damn bro, hey, I appreciate that. Man,

1322
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: what do you appreciate this? He's like Later he drives off,

1323
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 2: and these are the interactions that I get, and I'm like,

1324
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going? Who raised these niggas?

1325
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: Bro?

1326
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: This nigga had a beard. Bro, when you got phaser,

1327
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: here's certain shit. You just can't be out here just

1328
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: doing this. Nigga had a beard? Well, you do bring

1329
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: people together? Can't flog? Now? Is that returning the shit?

1330
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you don't know. I don't know.

1331
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: I just want to ride my bike, dog, Okay, I

1332
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: just want to ride my bike. Man. I don't believe you,

1333
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: But I have a tone where I sound sarcastic a

1334
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: lot of the time. Huh. So even when I tell

1335
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: the truth or give a compliment, some people think I'm lying,

1336
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I'm dead ass. I just want to

1337
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: just go to the mall.

1338
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: Do you have in your mind with the next era

1339
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: of coll of the creative.

1340
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: Music is of course, No, there's another thing we gottatop doing.

1341
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: We gotta stop, Like man, just pop. When motherfucking uh

1342
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: Twoky Bunky in ninety seven or two thousand and four

1343
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: popped out with a new song and album announcement, nigga,

1344
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: you didn't know shit about it until that motherfucking album

1345
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: announcement or video came out. We got to get back

1346
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: to that. Motherfuckers with the sneak peak shit or like

1347
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: you got something coming up and then his story like

1348
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: how about this? How about you fucking wait and mind

1349
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: y'all goddamn business and go get your latte, And that's

1350
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: for everyone. That's for everyone. Niggas love prying we got.

1351
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: I fucking hated so much, dude, it's so fucking we

1352
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: So I'll be out of line if I ask if

1353
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a video for running up. Definitely too late.

1354
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: I had a crazy idea for that video. Had a

1355
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 2: fucking crazy video idea favorite, but I couldn't. I didn't

1356
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: have the fucking time to do. But I had such

1357
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: an ill video that actually felt like the energy of

1358
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: the area of that song when it wasn't what people expect.

1359
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: I had such an ill, fucking idea. I didn't do it.

1360
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: And again, that's one of probably sixty videos I regret

1361
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: not doing. You can still do it, though it's kind

1362
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: of too like it stays like it's we're done, We're done.

1363
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta know when to let go. Sometimes you

1364
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: gotta know when to take the clock off Flavor Flame

1365
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: and just move on it next. By the way, I

1366
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: don't say that in a bad way. I'm gonna tell

1367
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: you something. I met Flavor Flay once. Super nice, but

1368
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 2: everyone's nice, so that doesn't mean anything. Smelled amazing, like

1369
01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: smelled amazing. And that man plays the piano so well,

1370
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: so beautifully, Like if you google flavor Flight piano, it's

1371
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: this one video. I think he's at a comic con

1372
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: or a hotel lobby. Bro He's playing the piano so

1373
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: fucking well. I think that's it. It's like, truly, I mean,

1374
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: hitting chords that hit my fuckings and I'm like, so,

1375
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: whoever's watching this, if you get a chance, google this

1376
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: nigga Flavor Flave playing piano. He might be in a

1377
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: green hat with a do rag and some like dark

1378
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: Vader glasses. It is amazing. And I'm like, flavor Flave,

1379
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: fuck the clock. Let people know about this skill that

1380
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: you have right here. That's fuck the performative shit, where

1381
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: is that? Right? So good? At the brunch, you told

1382
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: me something that I don't know. Can I talk about this?

1383
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 3: You told me that you wanted to work with Jermain

1384
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: Duprix and you said you want him to teach you

1385
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: how to make songs or something like that. I don't

1386
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: I still don't understand what you mean by that, because

1387
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 3: you have.

1388
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: So much knowledge. Jermaine dupri is one of our greats, Yes,

1389
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: truly one of our greats. Like I was listening to

1390
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 2: Sweetheart by him and Mariah Carey off that night, fourteen

1391
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: seventy two album, and I'm listening to this and I'm like,

1392
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 2: they just don't know Jermaine DePree was writing me song,

1393
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 2: Like listen to my Way. People don't know he's writing

1394
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: me song. By the way, I didn't know Frell told me.

1395
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm like nigga. What He's like, Yeah, this nigga's writing

1396
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 2: me song. So I'm going back and I'm like listening

1397
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 2: to like the my Way records and like some of

1398
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: the Confession's records, and I'm like, oh, I understand him,

1399
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: and Brian's like vocal phrasing, oh he was writing me.

1400
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, well, why can't I find any

1401
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 2: demos at all of Jermaine Duprix's stuff. The only song

1402
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 2: where Jermaine Duprie's rough or vocal demos in is might

1403
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: be track seven on the Emancipation of Me Me album,

1404
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: Oh Damn the Club about the clothes.

1405
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: In a minute.

1406
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: That's his ref And I think he told me he wanted,

1407
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 2: like usher someone to do that. And I ran into

1408
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: him at the studio one day and I was like, yo, nigga,

1409
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 2: how much I gotta pay you for your demos? He

1410
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: told me as soon as the people recorded, he deletes them.

1411
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't want wow thing of it. And I thought

1412
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: that was so interesting as a person, because I'm like, well,

1413
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: I wonder how he is at his home with physical things.

1414
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: He can't be a hoarder, then he can't keep things

1415
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: for nostalgic value. If he deletes that, so he might

1416
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: have the most minimalistic house of all fucking time if

1417
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: that's his thought process. Years past and I'm again listening

1418
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: to random songs of you ro and I'm like, no,

1419
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: he has a he has a special way of writing songs.

1420
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: And this is when him and Diddy were like, we

1421
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna do the Virgin thing. Y'all can't fuck with me,

1422
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: and Nigga's like, did he got that? I'm like, y'all

1423
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: understand this, Nigga. Jermaine de Prix was not only producing

1424
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 2: and finding the talent, but it was like, ah, I

1425
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: know your turn of voice, give me twenty minutes and

1426
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: writing and seeing this shit. And I'm like, I want

1427
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 2: to soak up as much information from Jermaine de Prix

1428
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: one day as I can to make me better at

1429
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: my craft, because it's some ship that I could definitely

1430
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: learn from him that I can't even comprehend right now, Okay,

1431
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: you have to make that happen some way he's doing

1432
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: with currency. So yeah, he's Jermaine the pretty sick dude. Yeah,

1433
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 2: he's so sick. Money ain't the thing, It's so sick.

1434
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: Classic he did what's the song the other song from

1435
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: it with Keith Sweat and so what's that song where

1436
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: he got the Big bed from fourteen seventy two. It

1437
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: might have been the third or fourth single off that album.

1438
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: You Talk, you rolled on me. You called it at

1439
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: a party and you talk too much? But you going

1440
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: home with me? Yeah? And then the random dude at

1441
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: the end r C like the worst name ever. It's like,

1442
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: people really make bad decisions early on Gosh, Tyler the

1443
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: creative man, thank you, this was a great decision. Thank

1444
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: you for saying with us, that's it, we go on.

1445
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm I have thirty minutes left, let's go, and I

1446
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: have nothing to do. So I tried.

1447
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: I tried to bate. I tried to bate Tyler last

1448
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: night into the whole. You know, the big best rapper

1449
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: in the game, you know, the Big three. They talk

1450
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: about the Drake Kedger Coles.

1451
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: He wouldn't go for it, he says, he gives a

1452
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: fuck hey, And you know what. You know what annoys

1453
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: me when people are like this is my top top

1454
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: five and people argue it like you got seventeen year

1455
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 2: olds like yeah, like dude, fuck you ready to die

1456
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: and enter the wu tang is my top ten album

1457
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: em But I'm like, bro, you just got hair on

1458
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: your dick. Stop is performing it. It's like that's your

1459
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: And again some people might be right, but I'm right,

1460
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: that's you got young boys and babies out here, and

1461
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: that's your favorite. Like, I don't care about people's objective.

1462
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: Top nothing. Tell me what is your favorite shit? Because

1463
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: you learn so much from people, you get context. I

1464
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: want to know why you think Pooky Dookie's second album

1465
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: is your favorite? Oh, I have memories attached to it.

1466
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: My brother did this when I was youngerest and that

1467
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: track seven he talks about this found out I was

1468
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: going through it like I want to hear that. I

1469
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: don't care about no objective. Dude. The kids be doing

1470
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: it with me. They do a tier list of like

1471
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: ABC and D of the albums they like of me

1472
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: and then tell people ask people thoughts. You're asking people

1473
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: their thoughts on what you hold to your heart? What

1474
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: kind of stupid shit is that? That's why I fucking

1475
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: hate rap Twitter because everything's performative. Everyone is making these

1476
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 2: lists just to have people engage, Like, who gives a fuck?

1477
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: Who the top three is the Jamariqua is like my

1478
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: favorite band. I don't know no one that talks about them,

1479
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: and I don't give a fuck because I enjoy it

1480
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: in my house and in my car. So why the

1481
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: fuck are we sitting here arguing about, Oh, you don't

1482
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: got Tupac in your top five nigga? No, I was

1483
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: fucking born when that nigga was at his People like,

1484
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck? Tell me your personal top five

1485
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: because y'all gonna just go in circles.

1486
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: I think people just like reference points, and I think

1487
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 3: it always comes down to taste, right, So if you

1488
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: have a conversation with someone and they say Pharrell's whack,

1489
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: which is impossible, you will look at them.

1490
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: It's not impossible. They might be right. They're not wrong

1491
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: because they grew up different. I don't like the Beatles.

1492
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: I don't like the beat But do you think somethings

1493
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 2: are absolute? Some things I guess could be objective, But again,

1494
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: even objective is subjective the way that you grew up. Again,

1495
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: some kids be here, call me if you get lost

1496
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: and be like, this shit is terrible. He's only rapping

1497
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: about card. We grew up with gangster girls, we grew

1498
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: up with rap music. We we knew what it was

1499
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: like when fifty cent had that fucking spin and chain

1500
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: and like, oh my god, we was there when Pete

1501
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: had the first colored jewelry. We know what ghosts faced

1502
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: fucking ego looks like. So when I'm saying certain shit,

1503
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: we know those talking about some kids whose parents grew

1504
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: up only listening to the Beatles or fucking Atlantis Morrisset

1505
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: or some shit who found wrapped through Reddit might not

1506
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: understand why DJ Drama is there. We think he's cool

1507
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: sounded on the records. They might think it's terrible. So

1508
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: it's all context. So if a nigga's like Yo, Pharrell's

1509
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: beats are terrible, maybe he didn't grow up with the

1510
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: ear to understand a Stevie wonder Bridge or Michael Jackson

1511
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: Bridge or fucking what Donnie Hathaway was doing vocally. He

1512
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: might not be on that type of time. So you

1513
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 2: can't really. I guess I can't fought folks for just

1514
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: not liking certain things. The thing is, I don't like

1515
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: when people are engaging for arguing and things like that,

1516
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: for shit that they hold here and not even trying

1517
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: to give contact, Like it's such a weird thing. Bro

1518
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: and niggas just be one of the funniest shit on Twitter,

1519
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: and it's changing a conversation of music. It's where I

1520
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: see people really dive in and talk about I don't

1521
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: know the concept or their favorite line, what it means,

1522
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: or like, yo, I love this beat. It reminds me

1523
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: of this because the player did this like conversation no matter.

1524
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: Kids don't even look at credits no more. They don't

1525
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: give a fuck who played, like, I don't know. I

1526
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: guess I hold this shit so close to my heart

1527
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: and I love music and these things so much that

1528
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: when it gets reduced to the top, plays on fucking

1529
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: Spotify or some kid from so and so saying so

1530
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: and so is greater than this thoughts, I'm like, this

1531
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: isn't a conversation, this has nothing. This is stupid. I

1532
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: fucking hate it. But you love Front and by Us.

1533
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: That's the greatest. That's my That's my favorite piece of art.

1534
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: It turns twenty this year. I think I'm a throw

1535
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: a party or a celebration. I've never and I've never

1536
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: made anything better than Front and in my personal taste,

1537
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: and I never will because everything I do is like

1538
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: that song, like I love that so I was on

1539
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: the clones The Clones number five, August nineteenth, two thousand

1540
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: and three. You can fact check that. And the short

1541
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 2: verse like the short I love, Dude, I love. I

1542
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: grew up on R and B rap shit, so like

1543
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: an eight bar verse. Biggie starts. Can't you see what

1544
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: an a? I think an eight bar verse like we

1545
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: got a bar fucking ushers nice and slow I think

1546
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: has an eight bar random verse like I could be

1547
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: wrong with the timing, but like, dude, I love a

1548
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: bar versus. When I do warf talking, I'm like, Rocky,

1549
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: I need an eight bar verse because I was seven

1550
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: years old sponging and downloading the structure of all of

1551
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: these rap, R and B songs in my brain. Like,

1552
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: and some kids that are sixteen are like, why is

1553
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: his verse so short? I'm like, it's not short, That's

1554
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: all that was needed. But again, they never grew up

1555
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: in the same time as me, so they don't have context.

1556
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: So you got some kids saying wharf talk is whack.

1557
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: Can't say he's wrong, he has no context, like little

1558
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 2: zan on one twelve, a fucking one twelve. Anyway, he

1559
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: wrote that, By the way, dude, long tell you like

1560
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: classic slim Bro Slim's voice is great and third verses

1561
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: bring back the dird verses. Yeah, bitch, I love third verses.

1562
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: I grew up on third versus niggaird versus species.

1563
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: People are like saying, like, I don't like the song

1564
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: because it's too long. You don't like how the song

1565
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: said because of the length. Like the conversation of music

1566
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: now is just fucking ridiculous. Like I truly think it's crazy. Yeah,

1567
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I will fuck with that song, but

1568
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: it's too long. But you didn't say if you like

1569
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 2: how it sounds like. You see why I be so

1570
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 2: fucking out. It's fucking crazy.

1571
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: Is it hard to live in the world where people

1572
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: don't love or understand music as much as YouTube?

1573
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: It kind of I just try to. I don't know, man,

1574
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: You just got to find people in real life who

1575
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: love these things and who could talk and articulate and

1576
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: have a passion for it. Sometimes you do a think

1577
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: piece or write about it, no one's reading it. You

1578
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: can call pretentious niggas be like, I ain't reading all that,

1579
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: and it's like, bro, why can't we You would think

1580
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: because of the Internet you would get closer to people

1581
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: and music lovers. That's why I like YouTube, don't. I

1582
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: don't really use any stream services. I'm a YouTube head

1583
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: because man, you'll find a random song and in a comment,

1584
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: it's a sixty eight year old man. He leaves a

1585
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: little paragraph about the first time he heard it and

1586
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: what he meant to it, and I'm just like, oh

1587
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: my god, that is awesome in it under it someone

1588
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: it's like, that's interesting you say that. And they're talking

1589
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: about the music and how it makes them feel, and oh, yes,

1590
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,520
Speaker 2: Stuart left Stewart did the best work on the Jamaricas

1591
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 2: second album because of it. Like that's the talk they

1592
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 2: not talking about. Well, so and so state this, this

1593
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: is so and so flop era, he's so, this gives

1594
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: a fuck? What about the music? Bro? I love it?

1595
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: And you do like Cherry Bomb.

1596
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: I've never I've always liked Cherry Bomb. And it's my

1597
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: people think because I say that era of me as

1598
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: a person was gross and I had to change, they

1599
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: associate that with thinking that I hate the Cherrybomb album.

1600
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: I've never stated that I put the Cherrybomb instrumentals out

1601
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: because I think that's like some of my greatest work.

1602
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: It's things on that Cherrybomb album instrumentals that I can't

1603
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 2: do today. I'm technically a better producer, but the mindset

1604
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: I was in, the creative freedom that I was in,

1605
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: I can't even do that, like to mash up all

1606
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: that shit is fucking crazy to me. That end part

1607
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: of Cherrybomb, although that song is like just static in

1608
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: part with the fucking kids choir singing like, I can't

1609
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: even do that anymore. That shit's awesome, and that putting

1610
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: those instrumentals out have people appreciate it in a different way.

1611
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: You put Wolf instrumentals out recently too, Yeah, people love

1612
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: those Wolf instrumentals and some shit I was really on

1613
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: my like you could hear what I was hearing when

1614
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: I was four and five on that album. If anyone

1615
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: understands what that means, you could hear rusty or Beamer

1616
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: or awkward or slater and really be like, Oh, he

1617
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: likes Jay's first album. He likes cut Close first album.

1618
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: How do you look at Goblin? I think Goblin Sith

1619
01:26:58,720 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: anniversary is coming up.

1620
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: Bro is fucking terrible, but I still love it. It's

1621
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: it's an energy and an aura that it has and

1622
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: hearing my wonky sense and gross drums and me not

1623
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: realizing I'm yelling on every song and saying the most

1624
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 2: wild shit is what got people there. It's not about

1625
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: the music, it was a if you were there. That

1626
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: energy and that aura and that air just cutting through

1627
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: what everyone else was doing is so important. And there's

1628
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: still some ones on there. I still think Youanker is awesome.

1629
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: She is awesome. The first two versions of Nightmares ill Trunk.

1630
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: Hat's still awesome. Analog still cool, Like it's still a

1631
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 2: few things on there, but people don't know like those.

1632
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 2: A lot of the songs on that album were just

1633
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: like random songs I recorded after Goblin that we kind

1634
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: of just yeah, hear yeah, I got these songs when

1635
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: it comes to songs. So I noticed you.

1636
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: You work well with others, but you seem to be

1637
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 3: really selective with features, Like do you turn down a

1638
01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: lot of offers.

1639
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: That oh yeah, dude, but I ain't gonna say they name.

1640
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Remember that group in like twenty sixteen they offered like

1641
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: a bag for a feature, and like, dude, you could

1642
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: not pay me enough if they said, hey, not only

1643
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: are they going to pay you a lot? They got

1644
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: God on the line and he said he'll DeepThroat you

1645
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: if you do this, it wouldn't happen because it's just

1646
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: and it's not. Man. Probably nice guys, but I just

1647
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: don't want to work with you artistically, and the song sucks.

1648
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: And you are a nice person. It's nothing against you.

1649
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: You just don't got to say yes to everything. They're

1650
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: not very I'm very selective. And sometimes it's just liking people. Man,

1651
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 2: you are cool, you are nice. Let's see what we do.

1652
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: Worse come to worst. It doesn't come out right, but yeah,

1653
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: so you have to know the person kind of like,

1654
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: not even all the way. I'm just saying. Sometimes it's

1655
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: not even because because you like the music of the song,

1656
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: you can meet people and be like, man, we're here,

1657
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: let's see what we could make. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes

1658
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: it's not. But it's okay to say no. It doesn't

1659
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: mean you hate the person or I just don't want

1660
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 2: to do it. That happens. But you're a genuine guy.

1661
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you.

1662
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm decent, You're genuine. I love you, man, kiss me

1663
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, Okay, I thought we were leaning. How Flex?

1664
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I love Flex. He's so sweet, He's so He's one

1665
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 2: of the other eight niggas on Earth. That's still I

1666
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: love flex man. He could be full Forwartive. Tell are

1667
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: we going to no more tours? Are we touring for

1668
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: this project or dates? I'm not touring at all. But

1669
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 2: when it has come out, whatever you want, I might

1670
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: do one special thing. Okay, who knows? This doesn't leave

1671
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: this room? I heard nobody, but yeah, but this will

1672
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: be out by then. So but I'm definitely not torn, bitch,

1673
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm tired. I just want to ride a bike and

1674
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: get a little fat. You're not gonna get fat. Yeah,

1675
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: I think I'll be blessed, but you never know. Oh,

1676
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 2: if I do Nigga, I'm gonna become vegan start. I

1677
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 2: don't know. It's weird. Shit, I don't know. I'm cute.

1678
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: I look cute as hell, very attracted, Like what like

1679
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: where anything? Oh? You know what? I do want to say.

1680
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 2: I've seen fans saying on the laves versus stunt man.

1681
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 2: People was like, oh, he's talking about Kanye, and I'm like,

1682
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: you guys are fucking stupid and have terrible comprehension skills.

1683
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: I would never.

1684
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Like.

1685
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: No, I love that nigga, and that is not about him.

1686
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: It's actually about the rest of the world. When I say,

1687
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: I say, wipe your feet on that door mat before

1688
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 2: you speak again. People just being hypocrites. And I say,

1689
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 2: how you tell us that you real, but you stay

1690
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: off the meds. By stay off the meds, I mean

1691
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: people be out here on every drug in the world

1692
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 2: talking about they are real nigga and they one hundred.

1693
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's a lie. You're you're lenses, You're

1694
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: drugged up right now. You sound stupid. How you got

1695
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: no house keys but you show off protect And in

1696
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: the background, I say priorities, and I'm seeing a lot

1697
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: of folks like just not really having a place to

1698
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: live or a means of transportation, but like they iced

1699
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: out and I'm like, man, these priorities are crazy. And

1700
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: then I say, how you call that girl a whoe

1701
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 2: but got ten baby mamas. I hate the double standard

1702
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 2: that people have on grown women having sex and being

1703
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: a fucking adult. That shit is weird. And niggas be

1704
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 2: out here having kids that they don't even take care

1705
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: of and fucking everything, but have the nerve to call

1706
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: someone like niggas sounds stupid. And then I say, how

1707
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: you claim you free thing? It will be preaching a

1708
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Bible and it again. It's back to my original thought

1709
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: where it's like niggas be doing and this and that slanging,

1710
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: you're doing that, shooting people, but as soon as you

1711
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 2: put a upside down cross off, they want to be

1712
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 2: like and John Psalm's seven point three sid Moses and

1713
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you are hypocrite. And then that's I say,

1714
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: are you pushy ass? Niggas think you so damn hard

1715
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: because you got a big blower nigga, you ain't God.

1716
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 2: And niggas flashing the guns just really thinking they got

1717
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: and it's like, bro, we eat and breathe the same shit.

1718
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: And then I say, y'all, fuck, y'all got the same cars,

1719
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: y'all fuck the same girls, y'all got the same watch,

1720
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 2: y'all say the same threat, y'all take the same pictures y'all,

1721
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: the gay ones y'all doing to oppress those niggas. And

1722
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 2: you see these ever you see niggas getting to a

1723
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 2: certain girl and doing this and this and all this

1724
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 2: shit just so niggas could be like, damn he hard,

1725
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: he a real nigga, and like, but as soon as

1726
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: a nigga kiss the nigga, like oh this nigga gay

1727
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 2: like being all that, but it's like you're doing all

1728
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 2: this for the approval of other niggas you don't know.

1729
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 2: You're actually the gay one trying to impress these males

1730
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: and that hippop. Like it's all so crazy to me.

1731
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 2: And people read that and thought I was talking about Yay.

1732
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, are y'all fucking stupid? Look at everyone you're

1733
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 2: listening to. That's who I'm talking about. So I wanted

1734
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 2: to clear that up. I just wanted to because I

1735
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 2: have no I won't do another interview after this, so

1736
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: I really wanted to clear that up. So it's not

1737
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 2: no article thinking that I'm saying some shit about someone

1738
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,799
Speaker 2: who I dearly love and happy he cleared that heaven

1739
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 2: for me, like Yay cleared that heavenem me shit for me.

1740
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Like Also, if y'all I don't know, John Legend has

1741
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 2: a second album called once Again that is fire incredible

1742
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: and Kanye has a lot of production on there. And

1743
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean that pocket when Ye was doing that and

1744
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: be and all, that is super good. So to all

1745
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: you kids who only listen to Donda because motherfucking wrap caviar,

1746
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: hold on, let me let me tell y'all too. I

1747
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: like Carl Cherry a lot. I like Carl Cherry a lot,

1748
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: but before I met him, I wasn't fucking with him

1749
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 2: because it's rap caviar, biggest rap thing that you could do.

1750
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: And I invited him to my listening part of Comic

1751
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 2: If You Lost, because I wanted to tell him in person,

1752
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: how dare you have this playlist or whatever, it's rap

1753
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: caviar thing that all these kids, white, black, this, and

1754
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: that listen to go to because kids don't search sh

1755
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: it no more, so they go to that. How dare

1756
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 2: you have that and not have a tribe called quest song?

1757
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 2: How dare you have that and not have a Gucci

1758
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 2: man song showing where all these young guys are derivative from?

1759
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 2: How dare you not at least put one thing? How

1760
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 2: dare I'm gonna say, go guy's name, but how dare

1761
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 2: you only put this guy's stuff when he makes a

1762
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: trap adjacent song. What you're doing is kind of tricking

1763
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: people that were mona looked like rap is only one

1764
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: thing and it's kind of no difference to how when

1765
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: they're when the Fox News someone like, oh they're rappers,

1766
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: they do this. You're kind of putting a battery in

1767
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: that still for some fifteen year old white kids. So

1768
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: when someone whether it's me or fucking Kevin Abstract or

1769
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: someone else, they're like, oh, nobody listen to that. That

1770
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: shit ain't in the street. Do that, Like you're doing

1771
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 2: that by having the biggest rap platform. Rap turns fifty

1772
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 2: this year, and like it ain't no fucking why isn't

1773
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: you tip on there? Why isn't Missy on there? Like

1774
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 2: and I get it, like it's it's politics, but like

1775
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: you got a hundred songs and you're telling me in

1776
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 2: the top thirty you can't just sneak something old in there.

1777
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 2: So some kid could say, what is this question this?

1778
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 2: I've never heard a snare like this? Put something from

1779
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: oh seven in there, like Jesus fucking Christ. And I

1780
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 2: told Carl Cherry, like it's not fair and it's not

1781
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 2: fucking right, and it's detrimental to this thing that we

1782
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: love that changed so many lives because what you're doing

1783
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: is making it do this, especially with this algorithm. Shit,

1784
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: it's just fucking doing this. Don't fucking do that. Do

1785
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 2: not do that. It's not fair. I don't like And

1786
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: I told Carlcherry and we're cool now, but when I

1787
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: first met him, I was not fucking with him because

1788
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm like you just I love this shit too much

1789
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: for for someone to just be on common saying ooh

1790
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: this shit hard, but when it's something different, they're really

1791
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: there is just no respect for I don't fuck with that,

1792
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: and I let him know that shit. I let him

1793
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: know that because I don't fuck with that. So now

1794
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: we do a go on a play this. There is

1795
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 2: something from yesteryear there, Yeah, and it fucking better be

1796
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 2: better have a fucking Dayla soul song on their mother

1797
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: fucking uh whatever iced out bart by fucking Gucci or

1798
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 2: uh fuck, I don't know some Timblin and MISSI shit

1799
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: or fucking I don't even listen to fucking David Banner.

1800
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: But like like a pimp needs to just be on it,

1801
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: like well, knock if you. Bucket is so culturally important

1802
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: to rap music and it's so much ship dude, and

1803
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 2: it blows my mind. It's no corrupt, there's no quick

1804
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: on there, it's no fucking it's even drop it like

1805
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 2: it's hot on there, like what are we talking about?

1806
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: I fucking And that cosincides with the fucking conversational music

1807
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: that's on the internet because you go fucking Spotify and

1808
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 2: tell you how many plays a song? Guys, why does

1809
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that matter? Why doesn't matter with fucking how many plays

1810
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 2: it has, It's just irrelevant. Do you like the song

1811
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 2: or not? I don't know. Man. Ship is stupid. Ha

1812
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: sh I hope I got every point across. I think

1813
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 2: you know me. I'm going to hibernation. I think this.

1814
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 2: I think this is it. I think I have nothing. No,

1815
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: y'all got anything else? You got anything you want to

1816
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 2: get off your chest?

1817
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 3: You know?

1818
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 2: Elliott? Elliott? You sure I got your back? If getting

1819
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 2: smoked to you, I'm a little scared. The waves is

1820
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: looking crispy. Good, I'll be good. Nah, Yeah, Elliott, got

1821
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: something to say. We're good. I'm happy to see you, brother.

1822
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm glad we're back. I'm happy we did this. Felt it.

1823
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Yeah. I brought you off some perfume. If

1824
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 2: y'all don't like it, give it to your lady. I

1825
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: grew with all women, so like I truly am. I'm

1826
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: so used to a certain floral scent. I like that ship.

1827
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: Most guys are not into that and not get it.

1828
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 2: But it's spray on your clothes and then wear that

1829
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 2: sweater two days later and it sits it really well.

1830
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 2: You said there very well yourself. That's what I tried. Yeah,

1831
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: wrapping up podcast, Yeah, hold on, can we feel missed?

1832
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 2: Just camera real quick? It could be an out take

1833
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was part of the Rock Nation brunch.

1834
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 2: I went for three reasons. I always wanted to go,

1835
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: just just because I never went to. I was like

1836
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 2: curious what food they had there? And three, I wanted

1837
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 2: to see how many times I could be called king.

1838
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 2: I counted nine. And the elist part, J let me

1839
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: park my my BMW right in the front. Everyone else

1840
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 2: had to shuttle. He let me park it right in

1841
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: the front on the hills like aesthetically ill And I

1842
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 2: top probably top four moments I've ever felt cool, like

1843
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 2: the textbook cool. And I'm like, J, Nigga, thank you, bruh.

1844
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 2: My homie sent me two weeks ago, Christen Cohms Instagram.

1845
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 2: These motherfuckers had a photo shoot with my car in

1846
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 2: front of the goddamn My Nation. And I saw Christian

1847
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 2: last night and I should have told him, nigga, don't

1848
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 2: sit on my goddamn hood. Nigga. I like, Christian, I'm

1849
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 2: just saying nigga. I didn't know, but that was ill.

1850
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Like everyone walk up and they just like, who's the

1851
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: little yellow BMW is that? I'm like, mine will be

1852
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 2: back next year. I don't know. I don't, I can't.

1853
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't know fucking be doing that day. But it

1854
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: was nice. I had some pizza of some waffle. It

1855
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 2: was hot. Everyone was sweating, by the way, everyone was

1856
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 2: sweating like all the photos. I want everyone like the photos.

1857
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Everyone was dripping wet of sweat.

1858
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 3: He was in the bushes next to Dave Santan and

1859
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 3: we had a good conversation.

1860
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 2: I was like, Tyler, why the bushes? Everyone keeps calling

1861
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: me king. I hate that ship. I was fucking hi dude.

1862
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: Everyone was sweet. I've met a lot of people. It

1863
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: was sweet. I have nothing else to say.

1864
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 3: Goodbye.

1865
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1866
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 3: Rap Podcasts YEP, rap Radar is Interval presents original production

1867
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,839
Speaker 3: from hyper House, produced by Laura wasser Hope and producers

1868
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 3: Elliott Wilson and Brian b.

1869
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 2: Dot Miller.

1870
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 3: From Interval Presents executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg,

1871
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,719
Speaker 3: Executive producer Paul Rosenberg editing is Sound design by Dylan

1872
01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 3: Alexander Freeman, recording engineer Brian Curly. Special things to Charlotte Jenkins,

1873
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 3: Tammy Kim, and Jasmine Sanchez, Operations Lead Sarah Yu, Business

1874
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: Development Lead Cheffie Allen Swig, and Marketing Lead Samara Still.

1875
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: Make sure to follow a raparator or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1876
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,599
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