1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Who do you who? This is George and I am 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: here to say that guess what. I Am taking my 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: stand up show on the road this summer, and I'm 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: going on a little tour in July and August, and 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: my first show will be in none other than Chicago 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: on July twelfth. You can find tickets in my Instagram 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: bio at linktree dot com slash George Severs. That is 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: link l I NK Tree, t r ee dot com 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: slash George Severs. And if you live in Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, DC, Seattle, Portland, 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: or San Francisco, all of those tickets will become available 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: very soon, so check back in at linktree dot com 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: slash George Severs in the coming days. But for now, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: if you live in Chicago, please buy tickets to my 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: show on July twelfth. It's going to be at the 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Den Theater, which is where we did our Stradio live show. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It is my first time ever headlining 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: in Chicago. I can't wait. Can't wait to see everyone, 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: So please please buy tickets and bring your friends. All right, 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: enjoy the episode. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Bye podcast starts now what is up everyone around the globe? 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: You are listening to the internationally beloved podcast Radio Lab 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Bump in that. 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I need to say something, Okay, go, I don't know 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: how I'm going to even articulate this. I something is 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: happening to my brain and something that is happening to 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: my spirit. I'm like the dumbest I've ever been. I 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: don't know the combination. 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: You tweet about this, I've seen you talk about this. 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: You're working out a lot, You're you're going meathead mode 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: even exclu yes, exactly, that's what it's like. I actually 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: think that there's this been this combination of Brad coming out, 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Biden performing poorly in the debate, which we can talk 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: about because there's gonna be un news since the since 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: this comes out, so that's the only thing I'll say. 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: There's sort of there's a sort of manic way I'm 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: like going back and forth between half reading the news 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: and listening to three six five igo I. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: During Pride weekend, I felt for the first time since 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: I was maybe twenty two, I really was like, Pride 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: is everything to me. This everyone in this subway car 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: is my family. I was out until six am, and 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: then after we got out of the club, I swear 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: to God in the middle of the street at six am. 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: We learned the Charlie Apple TikTok dance and filmed it 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: on the street. You George, So I did that with 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: Charlie Barney. Oh my god, I'm telling you something is 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: going on and I'm worried. I think, you know, at 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: my best, I'm like, you know what, this is what 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: happens to me in the summer. My brain goes out 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the window. 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: You know. 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: People talk about brain worms, and people talk about like 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: killing your brain cells. There's a way you can do that. Actually, 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: with your consent, you can. You can voluntarily euthanize your 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: brain cells. Yeah, just for a couple of months, and 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: then you're back back to school in September. And I'm 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: hoping that's what will happen to me. But I am worried. 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that is what summer is for, is for 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: being stupid, And I honestly think this is gonna be 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: people right now, a part of my French are getting 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: rock hard at hearing that you are. You know, the 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: formerly smart George Savers is now a stupid meathead. They're 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: gonna be They're gonna be dripping out of every orifice 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: when they hear that. 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, like, I can't even talk. 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: I was at I was literally like shirt off circuit 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: party until six am. I was in the backyard with 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: other I was in a group of other thirty something 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: gay men. Picture this, okay, all of us talking about how, 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, we feel so much better in our thirties 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and actually we feel we feel more confident now and 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: actually I've never felt hotter than I do now in 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: my thirties. And you know, in my twenties I was insecure, 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: but now I feel so much better. I was like, 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: if you zoom out and look at this, we all 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: deserve to be shot. No, I actually think that's a 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: genius and the only correct take. 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: I think if you I even think I'm I'm excited 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: for when I'm in my forties and I say the 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: exact same thing, totally. I'm excited to never remember that 81 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: I said that before. Yes, like, I'm excited to be like, 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: this is the best decade of my fucking life and 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: have that always be what I say and it never 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: means anything, but you still say it. Yeah. 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: I was, No, You're absolutely right, and I was thinking 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: that I don't know One of the great parts of 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: being gay really is that you can decide what age 88 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: you are at any given time. And I think I 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: decided when I was twenty five that I was forty, 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: and now that I'm turning thirty three, I've decided I'm 91 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: pretty much twenty seven. 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's so beautiful. 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Who knows what's gonna happen when I'm forty. God, I 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: wish I could really let alone fifty. 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm in the opposite right now. I'm like, yeah, I 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: was literally celebrating family values while you were celebrating pride 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: and partying all night. 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I I think a part of it 99 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: is that I am I'm starting a new job next 100 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: week and I'm getting married in the fall, and so 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I think those two very adult things are making me 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: be like, made this pride seem like, well, I'm only 103 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: in my twenties once. But wait, I want to hear more. 104 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I know you are in you ar like office job, husband, 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: two kids. 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to work. I'm well. 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: And so during Pride, I was visiting my parents okay 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: in Michigan. Wow, yeah, sorry, I just needed to let 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: that say again for a second. Well, because it was 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like, well, do we 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: even do pride anymore? And apparently the answer is yes. 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Apparently it's you know, euphoric and everyone can be twenty 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: seven again. I was told the last time I was 114 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: told we didn't celebrate pride anymore, and we actually went 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: to our parents' house in Michigan and sort of reflected. 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: I just want to say, the theme of this i'll 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: call it a season of the podcast is really, oh, 118 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: how the tables have turned? 119 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: The theme is really how the table? 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: It's actually crazy. We're switching roles. 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: It's actually crazy, and it's I don't know if I'm 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: comfortable with it. You know. Really I feel like, you know, 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the pressure of being the responsible one is too much 124 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: for me. It's not a place where I feel comfortable. 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll do my best, of course, we have to. 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I actually think we're doing a really good job. 127 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: Well thank you, Yeah, but I've also sort of We 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: recently had an episode where we talked about the trends 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: of summer. Yes, and one of my I said that 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: the weather of summer is partly cloudy. I said that 131 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: the sport of summer is track and field, and one 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: of our listeners responded, partly cloudy return to land. Are 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: you guys depressed? Yes? 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I believe that it was Mourra. 135 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 136 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: That is this prettiest Amura who always has the courage 137 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: and the and the fortitude to call it whenever she 138 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: doesn't like something we say, which is off, which is often, 139 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and I. 140 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: Will say that. When she said that, I was sort 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: of like, damn, maybe you have a point. 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I agree. 143 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: There's something about this this era where I've like really 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: put my expectations low, and I'm sort of like, you 145 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: know what, it's not going to be that fun for 146 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: the foreseeable future. And that's okay. Yeah, And I don't know. 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Our guest is looking at. 148 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Us with our guest is doing the kind of facial 149 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: reactions you can only get in, you know, the audition 150 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: room for Abbot Elementary. 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, and so yeah, so I've been feeling a little 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: bit like I need to check in with that, but 153 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: not yet. 154 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, shall we bring in our guests and then 155 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: she can help us decide how far gone we are? 156 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: Yes? But also I want to say one more thing. Okay, wait, 157 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: have I talked about running late yet? No? I was 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: running late this morning, and I wanted to talk about 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: one thing because of this podcast is you know, it 160 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: started out as a podcast about podcasting, then it turned 161 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: into a podcast about straight culture, and now it's a 162 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: podcast about the differences between New York and LA, of course. 163 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: And I want to say that one thing that I've 164 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: realized is running late in New York is so chic 165 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: and you get to really be like sprinting down the 166 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: street and you get to like be like sweating and 167 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, I'm crazy and you're like 168 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: splashing into a puddle and you're Carrie Bradshaw. When you're 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: late in LA, you're like, I guess I'm speeding, yeah. 170 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: Or or just like sitting in traffic and not moving 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: and just like being stressed. 172 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: It's so weird to be running late and in a car, 173 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: like it's one of the most insane things and you 174 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: just can't do anything about it and just be like, 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just like I'm I'm essentially like driving 176 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: a boat to school. It doesn't make any sense. And 177 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: that was what I was thinking about this morning, Okay, 178 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: And so I thought I would say it, Well, George, 179 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: you hate that. I mean, George, you can't engage that 180 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: at all. I don't know. 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna. I'm trying to use to engage 182 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: with it. No, I just I do think maybe car 183 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: is the default, and it's New York that's different. 184 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: Huh. I do think you're not You're not talking in 185 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: a lot of the globe that I depends on, hob 186 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: of transportation. 187 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's I think you're not. 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: I think you're forgetting about maybe your home land of 189 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: your uh huh, in which the train is extremely train 190 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: is so popular. I think you're forgetting about Tokyo. Okay. 191 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: What people can't see is Mo is actually directing Sam 192 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: and behind the scenes is sort of all right, this 193 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: is this can't be video oldie. All right, we need 194 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: to bring in Mo. 195 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Okay, without further ado, please want with the podcast, Mo 196 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Frey Pasek. 197 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 198 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: This is like the breath of air is so crazy. 199 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: It's like I've been underwater holding my breath and I'm here. 200 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Wait before we forget, we so many things. 201 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: I know we need to job of podcast. 202 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: I know, and this was a we sort of scheduled 203 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: this episode last minute, and so I don't have my 204 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: five page briefing document that I usually get from the aids. 205 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: I'm opening with, I'm promoting yeah literally, is that okay? 206 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: And then we're going to be normal about it. 207 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: And then but people, if people decide to like turn 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: this off, I want them to have first heard what 209 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: you're promoting, which. 210 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: They often do, especially Idea. 211 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: They get nine minutes and they're like, you know. 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: They're like, we're not panter for today, Like what the hell? 213 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So what I'm going down the barrel of 214 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: the camp what the viewers can go listen to is 215 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: on this very day, I found out this morning my 216 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: podcast trailer is dropping yes and it is a podcast 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: born of my play that I'm taking to the Fringe Festival, 218 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: and I will be interviewing fringe artists and friends and 219 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: comedians about the process about making the art that they make, 220 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: about the sort of minutia that I think when people 221 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: make a product and the art that they make. I think, one, 222 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: it's interesting why and two we tend to only talk 223 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: about the things that worked, and I like to talk 224 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: about the things that just got them there that maybe 225 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: seem superfluous or not, were a conversation, like a beautiful 226 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: evening you had with a partner that inspired you the 227 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: next day, like those sort of moments that are all 228 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: a part of the process. And so I'm going to 229 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: be talking with people about that on my podcast, So 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: please come. 231 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: When does it come out? 232 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: On July sixteenth is the day that podcast drops. I hope, 233 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: I think the trailer or the podcast drops, but whoa 234 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: And I'm very excited, and. 235 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Your show is also happening. 236 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: So it is my show. It is inspired by my play. 237 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: It is the themes of my play that the podcasts 238 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: are covering, sort of, And the play is about, I guess, 239 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: the way sometimes when we want to connect with people deeply, 240 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: we can only really be seen by transactional moments or 241 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: passer buyers, because the people closest to us we can 242 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: push away by even trauma dumping, by giving too much, 243 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: by not wanting to be seen. And so these sort 244 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: of sliding door moments that save our lives with people 245 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: that we might not even have a relationship beyond a 246 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: single hello passing in the street. And so it's about 247 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: a woman sort of understanding that about herself as she's 248 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: trying to obsessively heal and find all the ways to 249 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: be better, get better, and turns out maybe just being 250 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: really present for a moment is more healing than one 251 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: hundred hours of therapy. 252 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: With a good time footage not found in our case 253 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: being present. 254 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be at Edinburgh Fringe. 255 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: It's gonna be at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and I'm 256 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: excited to go to Scotland. 257 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 258 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: God, I hope Crazy Lady doesn't stalk you like in 259 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Baby Reindeer. 260 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be so sadly, that would be. 261 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: So sad if that happened to you. 262 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm actually obsessed with how Baby Reindeer has become a 263 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: shorthand term. I feel like a lot of people I've 264 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: heard be like they're gonna like baby Reindeer. 265 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Me like, yeah, that's so funny. 266 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: I am like, oh we needed that word. 267 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well because we needed something fun to be for stalking. 268 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 269 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: I sort of appreciate. I feel fine about Baby Reindeer. 270 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't hate it. I don't think it's 271 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: a masterpiece. I've watched it. Whatever. I do like that. 272 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: It's sort of put doing a solo show on the map. 273 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: This is call the people of you. I can tell 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: him to pull the plog out George right now. 275 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: I do actually think we needed representation of what it 276 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: is to go to fringe. 277 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: You know what I think Baby Rainder did is like 278 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: weird guy, weird guy solo performer. 279 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we need more of that. 280 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: I've never seen one. I've seen a lot of weird 281 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: guys in my life. I've seen, but I'm always. 282 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: Like, it's a type of weird guy that has never 283 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: been represented. 284 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, I'm always like, can you guys, 285 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: can you stop? Like I'm like, can you cut it out? 286 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: Because the weird guys are usually very self indulgent, and 287 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: this person in this series isn't self indulgent. 288 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like weird guy and there's something behind it, 289 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: and so I'm like, okay, cool. 290 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: I do want to push back on him not being 291 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: self indulgent. 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously all of us are, but this person 293 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 3: at least shows the like To me, a lot of 294 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: the stories are like, look how hard this ship was, 295 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: and he shows the complexity of like I was also 296 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 3: complicit but also my trauma being because also I'm responsible 297 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: for taking care of my It. 298 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Was like I felt I like he yes, yes, I 299 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: liked it too. I thought it was pretty brave of him. 300 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: No, keep going. 301 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: No, it was just we're laughing at like the way 302 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: it feels like we're maybe yeah, no. 303 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: No, I love. 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: You. 305 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: I did like it. I thought it was brave of 306 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: him to show how fully he bombed every time he 307 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: got on stage. 308 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Ye. 309 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Fun, that was fun, very fun. 310 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: I was confused, though, can I say when I was 311 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: speaking about other people with other people about it, when 312 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, it's clearly like he's traumatized, 313 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: like he's like engaging with this woman, or like I 314 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: felt like we all understand, like at the very least 315 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: daddy issues, you know what I mean, Like where it's 316 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: like someone might engage with weird people and need a 317 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: validate because they're fucked up. But so many people I 318 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: talked to were like, I had no idea. I thought 319 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: it was just so weird tell her to go. 320 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Away, totally. Yeah, it's interesting the layers that people recognize 321 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: versus ignore. 322 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: But say that though, because why because why. 323 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: Continue? 324 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: It seemed like you were shaking your ice drink as 325 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: a way to clap, like ause though you were like 326 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: snapping at a spoken word. 327 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: Wait on the bottom. 328 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I just want to say we are pioneering this. Right now, 329 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: when you're at a show and you want to clap 330 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and you're holding an ice drink, just clink your eyes, mo. 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: I want to take it back a few steps because 332 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: we instantly forced you to promote. 333 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: And that was my fault and I'm sorry, I can't 334 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: I tell you, yes, I'm relieved. I don't have to 335 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: think about it ever. 336 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: And now, and by the way, what is the podcast 337 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: in the play called? 338 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: The play is called Worse than You and is directed 339 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: by the beautiful Sudie Green if we're aware, past guest 340 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: in the community, past guest, funniest personal life, and the 341 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: Sudi is not able to come to Scotland because she's 342 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: you know, booked and bit blessed. So Sudi will co 343 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: host from Afar. But the podcast is Worse than You 344 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: with Mofry Passik produced and Mandeu perfect Erica. 345 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Gooda okay, And now we're no longer mentioning either of 346 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: those things, Sam go okay. 347 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: Now I want to take it back and say, would 348 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: you like to engage with the thing that George would 349 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: not at all about? The running late? Yeah? 350 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was because George. 351 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Would not engage at all, and I refuse well. 352 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: To let this just I actually this might be the 353 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: whole brunt of the whole podcast. 354 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: I say this with love, but what I'm refusing to 355 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: engage with is the idea that it is crazy to 356 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: be in a car running late. Is that correct? 357 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: It's not crazy, it's just less glamorous. 358 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: Wait, so are you refusing? I thought you were refusing 359 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: to engage because we had to sort of teased that 360 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: I was going to enter, and you were like, don't 361 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: introduce a whole new thing. And you're saying because it's 362 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: actual basis, you didn't like. 363 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: He's actually like I don't like this. No, I knew 364 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: that because George is actually not very time aware and 365 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: he does not care about that. 366 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: George, what do you mean I'm not time aware? 367 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: Like I run latere angry, I can't wait? 368 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Wait, Sam, say more about me not being time aware? 369 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: George, you don't know you're not time aware? 370 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: Messy sense? 371 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Am I not time aware? 372 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Do it? 373 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: Bitch? Say it? 374 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: Say it? Do you feel like I'm always running late? 375 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: No, it's more like when we're on stage, like I'm 376 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: the one that has to be like, okay, we got 377 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: to wrap this up. 378 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that is crazy because I'm the one that always 379 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: is looking at my watch, and you forced me, in fact, 380 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: to be the one to keep time. So then I 381 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: seem like I'm bored on stage because I'm the one 382 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: wearing a watch. 383 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: Respond to that, Sam, George, really good point. 384 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: I just feel like so often you're like, let's keep going, 385 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, we actually. 386 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Do have to go. Okay, but this goes back to you. 387 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this goes back to you being a 388 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: rule follower and you know, winding a gold star from 389 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: the teacher, whereas I'm punk rock. I'm sort of baby 390 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: Reindeer going to fringe bombing, but still going up every 391 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: night and putting in my hours. Whether or not a 392 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: crazy woman is talking me. 393 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's following the rules. I think 394 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: it's respecting the audience. I think it's respecting the. 395 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Guest time, the audience that's there to see us. 396 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 397 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: One thing that George and I differ on is I 398 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: have radical empathy for. 399 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: Our I understand that, and George, by the way my 400 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: face sometimes George is like, you paid to be here. 401 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: Your mind that's not well, okay, but but you have 402 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: to you have to sort of like take a risk. 403 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll try to. I'll start doing crowd work and 404 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll turn to Sam and he will look as though 405 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: an animal is being slaughtered. 406 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: Wait what kind of crowd? 407 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: Oh? I see you're eating a pretzel? 408 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: Is it good? 409 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: Up? 410 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I did say that to me. 411 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: That's so funny that to me, that's the versive. It's you. 412 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if we're performing at City Winery where 413 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: everyone is getting a giant pretzel, I'm not allowed to comment. 414 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: On that, Like it's this is I think you're allowed 415 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: to comment on a in a general sense. I just 416 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: don't like pointing at one specific person in the front. 417 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: Okay, the way your mouth's moving around that bread. 418 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Yes, here's what I think is Like I I'm to me, 419 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: that's it's going to be awkward at first. Are growing pains, 420 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: and I want to get to a point where then 421 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I have a rapport with an audience. But you have 422 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: to first get through. You have to first get through 423 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: that initial awkwardness because of course, no one wants to 424 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: be talked to like you know, so at first it's awkward, 425 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: and then you slowly start to build a rapport. 426 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: There's, like they say in Moneyball, the first person through 427 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: a glass wall, go and get a little bloody. 428 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: And Moneyball is what I base my comedic sensibility on. 429 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, I think the Jonah Hill character specially is 430 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: one of my biggest comedy influences other than the woman 431 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: from Baby Reindeer. Notice I didn't say the man. I 432 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: said the woman that's stalking him. She is my biggest 433 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: comedic influence after Jonah Hill and Moneyball. I'm incredible, She's iconic. 434 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: Wow, I feel that was cathartic. That was complicated. 435 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: See, I'm obsessed with this because you know what feels 436 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: better than depression? Anger? 437 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: Wait, anger feels better than depression. 438 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have something to fight for, You have 439 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: a sense of stability and right and entitlement to your feelings. 440 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's so interesting to me. I'm like, I felt 441 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: no anger whatsoever. And I was like, thank god, we 442 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: are engaging in play. 443 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: No, we're all really pissed here. Yeah, No, I'm doing 444 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: a bit. Nobody's angry. We're having life. We're having the 445 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: time arrived. 446 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: I genuinely am having the time of my life. I 447 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: wish I could, I wish I could reach across the 448 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: screen and give you both a hug. I feel like 449 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm back at the circuit party where on. 450 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: Saturday, I feel like I giggle, gig go giggle with 451 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: my friends. 452 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: I wish we could confess more things about each other. 453 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: Wait, that'll be the whole thing. Okay, yes, all right, 454 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: well let's begin. I'll start. I'll start with several things. Well, 455 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: first of all, I'm loving this sort of like identity 456 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: shift the two of you are having because it's also 457 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: like I can see it actually killing Sam. 458 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 459 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: It's also like it's like, here's the thing. It's the 460 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: flaw here is that there should be a shift because 461 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: it's actually George is being super hot and like shuret 462 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: off and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've seen the 463 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: close friends. I'm like, oh, like you look incredible and like, 464 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: so I'm going great work and Sam that Sam's like 465 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: core being you know what I mean, And so it's like, no, 466 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: we just need like it's like the episode where in 467 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: the sitcom where it's like I did your job, to 468 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: do your job's hard. It's like then the end they're like, hey, 469 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: how don't we each take a little together. 470 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. Yes, yeah, yeah, 471 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Well I think the only way we can work it 472 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: out in the remix, so to speak, sure sure is 473 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: for us to like do something together, maybe like go 474 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: on vacation together, and then push it in either direction, 475 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: have like one day where we are a little too professional, 476 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: one day where we go a little too hard. Oh yeah, 477 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: and then we both come out sort of in the 478 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: middle at the end. 479 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: For me, I do think there's something about like I 480 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: need to maybe lean in to if George is going Sam, 481 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: I need to lean more towards George. 482 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: I need because yeah, George isn't family values. No, George 483 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: is intellectualism, and you need to lean towards. 484 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: That because I think you are. 485 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm reading that's what I was actually English major, 486 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: English major. 487 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: Yes, I think I gotta start posting damn playbills. And 488 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: then we're talking, Yes, you gotta post playbills. 489 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: That's very true. 490 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: That's the final frontier of being me. 491 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: Georgia. No Greek, no nothing, just post a playbill. 492 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna start pretending to be greedy. You're 493 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: not gonna download d. 494 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: To be Greek. 495 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Terry Coop starts walking in, Sam starts something, rowing chest 496 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: hair and having a cross. 497 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: God I would give anything that. 498 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: Would be incredible experience. 499 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I did want to be There was 500 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: like a full year where I was like, maybe I 501 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: can pretend to be Italian, but. 502 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: Cool, Well there are I mean execute that. 503 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if you could pull up being Italian. 504 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's tough. I think. I think you so 505 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: perfectly are what you are in a way that I've 506 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: always been and say what he is. I don't want 507 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: to say I've been envious of it, but it's more 508 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: like there's something comforting in the brand, the fact that 509 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: your brand is strong, sure, sure, sure, And maybe what 510 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: you're struggling with is that it is expanding in a 511 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: way in ways that are both exciting but also scary 512 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: because there are new unknowns that you are experiencing. 513 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: That's true, George, That's really smart. 514 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: Even you saying that is like delivered in the soft 515 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: sort of like circuit party shirt off way that I'm loving. 516 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: That was so tender. 517 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, well, what are you gonna do? By the way, 518 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm on gi. 519 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: See my experience is there right now? Isn't like is 520 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: like he walked in, It was like he's like nice 521 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: darkwash hymn jeans on a terry clock and then I said, 522 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: incredible sunglasses handsome to me, I get what are that? 523 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: He doesn't even say it as I'm reading m Marnie, 524 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh Mo. 525 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: If you think we haven't spent an entire episode talking 526 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: about Sam's car and. 527 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: It's well, the experience is real, and you didn't you 528 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: said that. 529 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: By the way, you saying they were on sale is 530 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: so me. Me showing up with designer sung classes and 531 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: then without anyone asking me, doing a whole song and 532 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: dance about how they were on sale is like my 533 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: entire pieces. 534 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: Why you're suity? 535 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm very yeah, God, this is like destabilizing. 536 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: Huh more things about each other, though, Well, should we. 537 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: Say something about Mo? 538 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: I think we should say something about Mo. 539 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: Better be fucking good, you know. 540 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: I want to say there's something there's a new side 541 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: of you that has come out during the promotion and 542 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: conception of this play that I feel like is kind 543 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: of a new chapter. 544 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: I love that go on. 545 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's the sense that you have 546 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: this ex expansive energy that goes in so many different directions, 547 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: and you have chosen to focus at all on one thing, 548 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: and there's something so powerful in. 549 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: That that is very sweet. I appreciate that, and it 550 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: is true I felt the impact of that. I maybe 551 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: didn't realize because I do just enjoy doing a bunch 552 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: of things, and then once it has been concentrated into something, 553 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, like I feel that energy. 554 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: You know what the secret to life is concentrating it 555 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: literally is it's focused. It's actually something that I've learned 556 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: way too late in my life. 557 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: It's something i've learned weight. It's simple focus because it's like, 558 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: what's meditation focused, what's you know, what's presence focus? 559 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: And you actually it's easy to think that actually the 560 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: the the right way to live is to do a 561 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of different things and sort of you know, spread 562 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: your gifts as much as you can. 563 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: And here's the hard part. But it's not bad because 564 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: I used I used to back of people who are like, 565 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: do one thing, I'm like, well, that's capitalism talking like 566 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm an artist, I have many mediums. 567 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: Sure it isn't doing many things capitalism because you're posting 568 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Instagram reels and doing a sub stack and. 569 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: Not always not if it's like exploring, like I think 570 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: I see what you're saying where it's like, if you 571 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: want to do like, you know, a serious play and 572 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: do stand up, yes, that should be allowed because you're 573 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: not worried about branding. 574 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: As like yes media, because many of people have been like, well, 575 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: you're diluting your brand if you have a substruct businesses, 576 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't want to be brand driven. 577 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I guess that's fair. Doing one thing is 578 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: more brand driven. Doing many things is more. You know, 579 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm a complete person with many sides of my personality. 580 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: This is interesting because it goes back to we had 581 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: a big debate with Theta Hammel about whether being whether 582 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: small is actually big and big is actually small? 583 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: It's context. 584 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so now I'm like, is one thing is 585 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: one thing more expansive than many things? Or are many 586 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: things more focused. 587 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: Than We're getting into Schrodinger's cat there, you know we're gonna. 588 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Schrodinger's brand. 589 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: Firing on all cylinders or are. 590 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: We firing on one? 591 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love my friends so far. 592 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: That was literally me at Pride just I love my friends. 593 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: I love my friends. 594 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes I do when you're talking about being stupid, like 595 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: I feel dumb, Like like you guys will say something 596 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 3: funny STUDI will say something fun I'm like, oh my god, 597 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: my friends are so freaking funny. Yeah, I'm like, I'm 598 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: like the big dum idiot. 599 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: That is not true. 600 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: I know it's not true. I'm very funny, but it 601 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: feels like. 602 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you mean. I feel that way 603 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: too sometimes, And I've always liked that role. Like it's 604 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: not even where I it's not where I actually am, 605 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: but in my mind sometimes I'm like, I am the 606 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: one that it gets to be with all these funny people, 607 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: and that's so exciting. 608 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: How great. But it's also it goes back to, you 609 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: know how like you'd never want to be the funniest 610 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: or the smartest person in a room, because then it's 611 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: like where do you go from? 612 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: My parents say, you never want to be the biggest 613 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: house in the neighborhood. 614 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think I actually would 615 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: want to be the biggest. No, because then you got 616 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: a target on your back that neighborhood, that neighborhood Manhattan, 617 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: that was me. 618 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: Wait I have something, Okay, wait, I have something. I 619 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: want to go into a tail Okay, go go go, 620 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: and I want your guys take on it. 621 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: I love that. 622 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Wait, Sam, one question? Should we do our first segment 623 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: before you go into the tail? 624 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: No? 625 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: Oh, maybe you're right to do it really quickly. 626 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Let's do it really quick? 627 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 628 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, who's a time queen? 629 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Now? 630 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: How the tables keep turning? 631 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: Bit? 632 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: How the time tables have turned? 633 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: I damn? But okay. Our first segment was called straight Shooters, 634 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: and in this time we're going to ask you. Here's 635 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: a rapidfied questions basically this thing or this other thing 636 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: to get you're familiar to you with and complicity and 637 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: straight culture. The only rule is you can't ask any 638 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: follow up questions or will scream at you and give 639 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: you something you mad at us about. 640 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mo, here we go, Han fried shrimp or Mo 641 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: fry passic? 642 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: That was so cool? Is that the first question? But 643 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm just asking I was that the first personalized one 644 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: because it's gonna be You're okay. 645 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: You almost you almost got away with asking a question there. 646 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good question for conscience. 647 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Mo, it's a song saying right now when people 648 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: are listening. 649 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, Mo. Built for tough or two 650 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: for suffs? 651 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Mmmm? 652 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Two for suffs? 653 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Okay, mo three six five party girl or three six 654 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: nine damn you fine, hoping she can suck it to 655 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: me one more time? 656 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't know those were the exact words 657 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: for the second one, so you. 658 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: Know, I actually thought it was three six nine damn 659 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: good time? Am I crazy for sink for things? 660 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 661 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was too, but I looked it up 662 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's damn you fine. 663 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: Well, you guys haven't had your and plaster to a 664 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: floor where your ass is rubbing on a hard little 665 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: dicky at a dance floor when you're in the sixth grade. 666 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know that song? 667 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: You know our experience? 668 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do not know. 669 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: You do not know my life, and you do not 670 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: know what I did. 671 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: George is right, there's a sixth grade or plastered on 672 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: the wall. They're just grinding. Okay. I only remember the 673 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: number three six five, so I'm okay, great, Okay. 674 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: The bling ring or the sting who sings. 675 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: This singer sings every day is a winding road, or 676 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: every gay is in grinding mode. 677 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: Oh that one was really good, George. 678 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And can I tell you something that's the one 679 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: I thought of last minute. I started recording and this 680 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: is why we need to push ourselves. 681 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: Because Sam pushed you a little bit. 682 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: And Sam pushed me. We were about to start recording. 683 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: I said, Sam, I have three can we just do 684 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: like you do four? And I will do three? And 685 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: he said, just push yourself, just take. 686 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: A minute, just push yourself. 687 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: When you say it, when you recount like that, it 688 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: actually sounds like I'm insane. 689 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: Well not just that, So she is talking on like 690 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: you had no emotion behind it. 691 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: To my friend to be like, how about you push yourself? 692 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: That is literally what you said. And I was like, what, 693 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: you're right, Like, it's one more I can sit down 694 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: and I can do it. 695 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: All the listeners. 696 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: The tone was the context also, I mean, you're just 697 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: proving I'm sorry, but you're being so corporate, like you're being, 698 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: my god, digging yourself into this hole for me to 699 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: be like, can I do three? And for you to say, George, 700 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: this is a professional. We're in a. 701 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: Studio right just pushing right right now. 702 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: It's not corporate. It's just wanting us to be you know, 703 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: hold ourselves to a standard. 704 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is crazy. 705 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: Can you hear the splashing? Are you saying that? 706 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: Are you peeing right now. 707 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I was peeing. No, I was, I was filling my way. 708 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: Can I tell you? I literally thought George was like 709 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: got his phone out to like do a sting, to 710 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: be like up Ship Creek without a pod, like you 711 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I thought it was gonna 712 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: be like a bit. 713 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: I actually thought I actually almost did that for three 714 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: six nine. I was going to play the songs. 715 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: But okay, well every day is winding world because I 716 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: forgot what the second one was, but I would have said. 717 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: That it's every gay is in grinding mode. 718 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, mo. Information that's been classified or a face 719 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: that's been yassified. 720 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: That's good, honey. 721 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: What's the difference, absolutely, information that's been classified. 722 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: The Great Gatsby or the fate of chat GBT. Oh well, 723 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: the fate of chat GBT. Yes, let's hope it's not 724 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: a good one. Okay, okay, Sam, time for yours? 725 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: Oh wait, we have one more? 726 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Okay, you have one more? 727 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: Biden is old or I love gold. 728 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: All right, I'm wagging off. 729 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: It's gold member voice. 730 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Did you think you would forget when you wrote it? 731 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: Did you think about this moment? 732 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: I said, I said, Sam, push yourself. I said, I said, 733 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: you know you don't love to do a voice, and 734 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: you know it's going to be confusing, and George might 735 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: look at you with disdain. 736 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: I never look at you with this stain. I always 737 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: celebrate when you take a creative Faschuck, can I. 738 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: See your face? Can we play backpace? Can we play it? 739 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, And you know, tell me if you 740 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: don't feel this way. I feel like when I am 741 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: like often. You know, we of course push the limits 742 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: of stupid and the hope is that you We do 743 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: horseshoe theory, so something is so stupid and it becomes smart. 744 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes when Sam. 745 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be a circle, Okay, I guess we have. 746 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: A I guess we have a scientist in the building. 747 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Every day is a bit, every day is a winding 748 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: circle more like whoa. But I feel like I you 749 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: know when you do that often I will lovingly kind 750 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: of exaggerate an eye roll. So you know that that 751 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: comes from a place of love. 752 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 2: Of course. 753 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm obsessed with us blurring the lines here, and 754 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: I would. 755 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Never I feel disdained for very few people name three, 756 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Chuck Shumer, Oh, Katie Perry true. 757 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: Okay, well then that's pushing you back to the stand up. 758 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Huh well, and uh, I guess say it. 759 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: Don't flake on. 760 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: This, push yourself. 761 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: What'd you say, Shepherd? I think that's so smart for 762 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: you to say, because now you're involved in the podcast 763 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: dynamic and people are going back and forth, their audiences 764 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: are listening to you guys. 765 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would actually really start I would really 766 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: start a few with Deak Shepherd. 767 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 768 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Huff Post picking this up. 769 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: I heard Ariana herself, well, great American icon. 770 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: By the way, no one's talking about that. 771 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: You have an I haven't in yet. Well, if she's 772 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: on Sped dial, I said, yeah, sou okay, So Sam 773 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: tell you wait, hold on a scale of zero, you 774 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: haven't chosen chosen because. 775 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I just also need to comment on 776 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: it is not a question. Is it's like it's you're 777 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: using a quote from a character that is like not 778 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: his primary quote, you know what I mean. Like it's 779 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: like it's like doing a bat bastard quote and then 780 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: like yeah, he says, I love, but it's not like 781 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: it's not like a canonical I did. 782 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: Not recognize that. 783 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: I didn't either at all and I just watched Sam 784 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 3: look at me starting to cry laughing. 785 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: I genuinely was like, is this gollumn? Like he also 786 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: started laughing, Like before you were even done doing the bit, I. 787 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: Was like what is he? Like? What? What? 788 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: What is the It was exactly that meds were like. 789 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: And it was so fun because I realized before right 790 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: before you said gold member, and when you did, you 791 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: said it like we all know, right. 792 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: And it was like, No, what would you say is 793 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 2: gold members primary quote? 794 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't have master? Is who you quote? 795 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're gonna quote gold member, you're gonna say 796 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: I love gold. 797 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, don't really quote gold Man. I think the last thing, 798 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: that's why. 799 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: It's iconic because no one quotes gold Member. 800 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: He said, Okay, I think we are there's a crisis 801 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and it is that we are too 802 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: horseshoe pilled, where we always think the opposite is true. 803 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: So you saying that's why it's iconic because no one 804 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: quotes gold Member. So something that is something that is 805 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: inherently non iconic, something that no one quotes, everything becomes 806 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: iconic respective are you. 807 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: Looking at it? 808 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, honestly, the true iconic thing which I 809 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: just haven't seen it is to start quoting the Love Guru. 810 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: Well, I already, but Sam, I did that last week. 811 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Remember I do remember the way. 812 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that sentence that dag and forth is crazy. 813 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: You said, you said a real thing, which is the 814 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: way is to quote? Was it domest zone the love grow? 815 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: That's what it is. You're like the love gir And 816 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: George says, I did that last week. I said, Oh 817 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: my gosh, the Little World. 818 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: This is the best episode ever. 819 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: I'm having the time in my life. 820 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm scared. 821 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm going to choose obviously Sam's full eye contact, 822 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: long impression. 823 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: Of course. 824 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: I love that was good. 825 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 3: That was way good that we know. 826 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: I love go. Yeah, so no one knows Gold member, 827 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: I it's gold, It's gold. 828 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Beyonce one. It's the Beyonce one. 829 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: Do you an impression, George? 830 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, of Beyonce isn't her name? 831 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 2: And a whole woman? 832 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: I do remember that, So you could be a George. 833 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this will be tasteful. 834 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: Sam, tell your story please. 835 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh I can't believe we're going back to this. 836 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: We need to rank Mo from a scale of zero 837 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: to one hot or not, mo hot or not, I'm 838 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: hot hot. Actually wait, no, that is what we're doing. 839 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: I've decided for this episode instead of zero one, buts 840 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: and Doves are just doing hot or not and your 841 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: ranking is HoTT. 842 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: Thank you? 843 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, go okay. 844 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: I guess what I was gonna say, which feels so 845 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: out of context in random now, is that okay I 846 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: had While I was celebrating family values at my parents' house, 847 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 2: I ran into I went with my mom to a 848 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: sandwich place and we saw someone she's friends with. 849 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: I'm with her. 850 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: With her. 851 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: It's a sandwich shop and you know something about her? 852 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: Oh? There we go and we went to and my 853 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 2: mom was like, I want to introduce you to my friend. 854 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: And I was like okay, and I was like, we 855 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: actually had just finished recording our Patreon episode, and so 856 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: my mom was like, here's Sam. He was just recording 857 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: his podcast. 858 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: No terrible mistake, Strike one. 859 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: I immediately shut down. I'm like, because then. 860 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: You brought your body caves in on it truly, And I'm. 861 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 2: Like oh, And she's like, oh, what's your podcast about? 862 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh no, And then I was like, 863 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: it's called Stradio lab. 864 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: And it's like we do strike too. 865 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: It's like a comedy podcast about it. 866 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: Strike. You said you are, I'm like aboard mission. I'm 867 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: getting word from control. We need to airlift him out 868 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: of there. 869 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 2: Right now. 870 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: A boat is coming. It's on Lake Michigan and a helicopter. 871 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: The helicopter has your feet and the boat has your head. 872 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: They're like, get him out whatever way you can. 873 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: He's laid down to a board. 874 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: He's being lifted like that cow. 875 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 3: That gets from the science museums. 876 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: And then I tried to explain it, and then it 877 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 2: obviously went horribly wrong. They looked at me like I 878 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: was insane, Like sorry, talking about something else. And then 879 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: I slowly backed out, Like but you can't back out, 880 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: You're done, I literally slowly. 881 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: And then you were being Homer Simpson in the bush. 882 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: I was being Homer Simpson in the bush. And then 883 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 2: we walk outside of my ALM goes, you're so shy. 884 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: I have a question, Yes, this is a crazy experience. 885 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: How how should I have handled the situation? What do 886 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: you say to someone when there's no context? 887 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: What you call the a c l U? 888 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: Right, you call the a c l U and you 889 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: call a CLU, the DNC, Yes, and the Glad Awards 890 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: Committee Committee. And you say, we need a closed door 891 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: meeting with President Joe Biden right now. 892 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 3: Right now. 893 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not coming to you, You're 894 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: coming to me. I will see you on the shores 895 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: of Lake Michigan in twelve. 896 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: Hours because it's going to take everyone. 897 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to know my ernest answer how I 898 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: would answer that I do. I would say very simply. 899 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I'm a comedian in New 900 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: York and the podcast is like an interview podcast where 901 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: we interview other comedians. No one would ever ask a 902 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: follow up question. You would move on, and then your 903 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: mom can start, you know, giving her own updates about 904 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: work and life and the renovation. 905 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 3: Fuck, that's so smart, the renovation. 906 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: That's of course the number one choice. You know, if 907 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: I had it, my way would be for your dear 908 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: mom not to have mentioned the podcast at all. But 909 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: once she did, that is I think the only way forward. 910 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: I find this so complicated because whenever I go to 911 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: anyone that is not in our circles, I feel like 912 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm insane and I'm like, is it me? Like? Is 913 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: it am I being Tina fe going like remembering high school. 914 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 3: I know, Kelsey, how about your mom piel problem exactly? 915 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: And I'm sort of like, should am I being like 916 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 2: they're never going to get it, so I'm not explaining 917 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: it to them, or but then whenever I to explain it, 918 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: I sound it insane so that I'm like, oh, yeah, 919 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have ever tried, and I feel like you. 920 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: Can try to explain it. 921 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 3: I think here's the thing that because I've run up 922 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: with this against the play a lot, because the play 923 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 3: is like, it's about trauma, but it's funny, but it's 924 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: about this, And then it's like people like, so it's 925 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: the one woman show. I'm like, well, my gender's very fluid. Well, 926 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 3: so it's it's the one person show. No, it's a play. Well, 927 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: and then you sit there and you're just like, well, 928 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 3: am I like, you know, shirking sort of categorization or 929 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 3: am I being obstinate? Should I just simplify this? And 930 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 3: I think the stuff we do right, it is hard 931 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: to feel like you're reducing it for an elevator pitch 932 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 3: for someone you know you're in conversation with. Here's where 933 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: you should trust your gut, right, yeah, you know that, 934 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: like you're not judging this woman, but you can feel 935 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: a vibe and be like, yeah, we're not gonna have 936 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 3: a conversation about gay culture or straight culture, right. But 937 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 3: then what we do is we internalize it and we're like, well, 938 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 3: I'm judging who or I'm not saying it with my chest, 939 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 3: and it's like it's neither of them. Trust your gun 940 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 3: in the situation, just like what you just saying, like 941 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 3: have a shorthand, and if they want to inquire further, 942 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: you can absolutely be like, well it's kind of you know, 943 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 3: it's silly but nuanced, but we do have bigger general conversations. 944 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: But the thing is, I think we doubt ourselves in 945 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 3: those moments and we're like, should I have done this? 946 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: Should I have done It's like you wanted to homer 947 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 3: system and not have that conversation and you didn't even 948 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: bring it up your mom, did you know? 949 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: Right? 950 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Right? 951 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: Right? I think however, you also have to think about like, 952 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: think about someone who works in private equity and you 953 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: meet them at a party. They are not going to 954 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: go into the weeds of the work that they do. 955 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: They're just going to say, I work in private equity. 956 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: But that's like what bothers me. I honestly am jealous 957 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: of them because if I had had this conversation and 958 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: my mom was like, Sandwich was working private equity, then 959 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: the woman would have just been like awesome like that 960 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: for you, Yeah, Like there wouldn't be a question. There 961 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: would just be like inherent respect, whereas like when you're 962 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: like he was doing this podcast, it's like, so what's 963 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: that all about? 964 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: But I think that has to do with our and 965 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: creativity is people are comfortable with gray area, with you know, 966 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 3: nuance with that, and so people need you to say 967 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm this or that to feel comfortable processing it or 968 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: being like I know that's good, I know that's bad. 969 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. Here's my other strategy. Okay, uh, 970 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: you're the instinct, of course, because you want to justify 971 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: your own work is to go into the creative side 972 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: of it. But actually it's much more safe and relatable 973 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: to talk about like the business and logistical side of it. So, 974 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: for example, she says, you know, what's your podcast, sort 975 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: of say something very quickly and then start being like, 976 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's been hard recently because my co host 977 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: and I are in different cities so the scheduling has been, 978 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, really hard to and then suddenly the conversation 979 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: becomes about how hard it is to plan a zoom 980 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 1: meeting and everyone can relate. I'm serious, No, that's actually 981 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: really smart. 982 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: It's just funny how simple it is. 983 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: It's I think it's a bummer, how simple it is. 984 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, because I'm it's it's confusing because I'm not 985 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: trying to be obstinate. Yeah, I'm trying to treat people 986 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 2: with respect and be like they yes, they can hear 987 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 2: this and make sense of it, Like we don't live 988 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 2: in some tower where we're like incredibly different than other people. 989 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: And then I but then I'm always like, but then 990 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: we also are different than other people. So it's confusing. 991 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, everyone's different. That's what makes America such an amazing 992 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: melting pot. 993 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: Mo. 994 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: I want to know what your straight topic is and 995 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: what you think is straight about it? 996 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: So fun? 997 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 3: This is so fun. Okay, Well, I feel like we 998 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 3: always dance with this because I always think about it. 999 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 3: I laugh because you guys do say like big small, 1000 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: big spot, and I think it's it is the perspective 1001 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: from what you're looking at it, right, Because anything can 1002 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 3: be anything in or out of context is what we 1003 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 3: keep talking about. 1004 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: Right, anything can be anything in or out of context. 1005 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 1: Is one of the great sentences that has been uttered 1006 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: on this. 1007 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 3: Podcast as is that it didn't realize And now I'm 1008 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 3: kind of. 1009 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: Like, wait that kind of I'm prod merge and I'm 1010 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: not joking, like anything anything in or out of context. 1011 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: And what's going to be brilliant is it can't be 1012 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 3: on like a big base, Like it can't be a hat. 1013 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: It has to be a big Exactly. 1014 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: Anything can be anything in or out of context. 1015 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: Don't you think like big Okay, I agree with you 1016 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: Mo for comedic value of course on a hat. But 1017 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: then I'm also thinking streetwear, big block letters. Yeah, just 1018 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: like big oversized T shirt. Anything can be anything in 1019 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: or out of context. 1020 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 3: I love that. How do we want to shake that? 1021 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: No? 1022 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 3: No, this is like now the welcome to the new segment. 1023 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: Anything you know, anything can be anything in or out 1024 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: of context. 1025 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: Wait this is I'm sorry but this I'm kind of 1026 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: like I can't move on from this because we don't 1027 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: have this to me is so the spirit of early 1028 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: episodes of the podcast. It's like we used to have 1029 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: we used to make merch. That said, it doesn't matter 1030 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: what your political beliefs are as long as you live 1031 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: out loud. I remember, yeah, and this feels very in 1032 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: conversation with that. 1033 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 3: Oh, I love being in conversation. Conversation when when like 1034 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: sentences are conversations. What it's crazy? 1035 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 2: Okay. I also love any can be anything intern out 1036 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: of context because it fully feels like you didn't know 1037 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 2: this part was coming, and you're like, let's riff. 1038 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so funny. That's so funny. Now 1039 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: I have a full list. 1040 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it is so funny to be So, what's 1041 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: your straight topic? And you're like, oh, fuck, well, anything 1042 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: can be anything in or out of context. 1043 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: I turned into the love gurrooms. 1044 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: I love context, old gold, I love my god. You 1045 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: guys know it. That's the only thing he says. 1046 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: Wait, don't you think anything can be anything in or 1047 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: out of context? Also sounds like a kamalaism? You know how? Absolutely? Yeah, 1048 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: it's very It. 1049 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 2: Exists all which came before you. 1050 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: Here's what's met about it. The phrase itself, we can 1051 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: make anything because I can go anything Como style, right, 1052 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 3: can't do it, shouldn't do impression? 1053 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: No, no, I see what you're saying. Though, depending on 1054 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: what you you can either stress the first anything the 1055 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: second anything you can stress in or out, or you 1056 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: can stress context context. Yes, and actually, depending on what 1057 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: you stress meaning changes, you literally meaning changes, and you 1058 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: have a completely different, like political outlook of a completely 1059 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: different subjectivity. 1060 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, this should be an acting exercise. You should show 1061 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: up your acting class. Yeah, and today's lesson is anything 1062 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: can be anything in or out of context, and you 1063 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: have to say it over and over and over and 1064 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: you have to perform it in different ways. 1065 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: Until finally ready. It's like an hour and I really 1066 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 3: break and you feel it. 1067 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 2: You're crying. 1068 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 3: You know, anything can be anything in a out of 1069 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: context chills, incredible books. 1070 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: The teacher fucked, That is what WA want now? 1071 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 3: Fucked the cutest guy. 1072 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 2: The professor. No, No, not in LA. 1073 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: Maybe in New York, but in LA there's so much 1074 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: New York there done that. 1075 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 2: In LA it's so corporate. You can't even fun the professor. 1076 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 2: That's true, that's so, that's true. 1077 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, serious, a professor in LA. 1078 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 4: Professor of what smoothies please who, Professor of grain bowls, Professor, 1079 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 4: Professor of the reboot of Melrose place. 1080 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. It's all. 1081 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, well we have approximately forty five seconds left. 1082 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 2: What is your time guru. 1083 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 3: Guru, I'm having time of my life. It's almost eleven eleven? 1084 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: Wait, what's time Guru? 1085 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 2: Is that just a that's a new. 1086 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: Time guru? 1087 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 2: Was time. 1088 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: Time gu someone who someone who has like a natural, 1089 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: effortless relationship to time, which, as we have established, I 1090 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: used to not have, but now I don't. 1091 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: I feel like any artist is neurodivergent and does not 1092 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 3: no time. 1093 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: Well, I actually feel George, to be completely honest, I 1094 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 2: feel like I've been trying to pay less attention to 1095 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: the time because I feel like in the first you know, 1096 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: half of our podcast run, I was very aware of time, 1097 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: and now I'm trying to be more like. 1098 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: You know what, stay do artist. 1099 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 3: We can clean it up in the edit. 1100 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And would you say I'm going in the 1101 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 1: opposite direction once again? 1102 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 2: We are I think it's possible. I mean in this episode, 1103 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: I do think, yes, but I do think in general. 1104 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 3: In general, no, in general, you were up till six am. 1105 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. In general, none of us is the time guru, 1106 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 2: but in this episode you are the time guru. 1107 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: None of us are real create it like, I'm sorry 1108 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 3: if like, if you're on Mike, you're not time guru 1109 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 3: in real life, you know what I mean? Like like 1110 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 3: we wouldn't know how to make anything. 1111 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: No, God, no, no. 1112 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 3: So okay is awesome shit? 1113 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 2: Yes? 1114 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it is eleven eleven party rock Okay, whoa Okay. 1115 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: So I was getting a lot of bullshit an annoying 1116 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 3: text in my phone, and I was having to a 1117 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 3: lot of ship. So I said, I want to look 1118 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 3: at my phone and enjoy myself. So I put tom 1119 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 3: Selleck in a tiny little hot yeah. 1120 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: Because it flashed, and I was like, that's so hot. 1121 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: Way, tom Selle is your phone background. 1122 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 3: I all of a sudden got thrown on my Explore 1123 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 3: page into like magnum p. I like him like TikTok, 1124 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 3: not TikTok, but like Explore. And all of a sudden, 1125 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 3: I was like this giant hairy man in big tiny 1126 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 3: short shorts. I was like, oh, and it's so hot, 1127 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 3: and so I made in my background. 1128 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: Oh he is the have you seen him in and out? 1129 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 2: So in and out? 1130 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Climb plays. 1131 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 2: George. I'm sorry the moment you said that, mom and 1132 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: I sort of connected as if we were about to 1133 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 2: revolt against you. And I will tell you that movie 1134 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: didn't exist, Like yeah it was. We both don't haven't 1135 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: seen it. 1136 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not real, you know what, there's no time. 1137 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: The point is we were, we were convinced we were. 1138 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: There was a moment where we connected with it. 1139 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: We had tilted and then up, and then it was ready. 1140 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 3: We felt ourselves ready to turn to you on the 1141 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 3: screen to go wrong. 1142 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: That is crazy. 1143 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Tom Selleck plays the gay love interest. Young Tom 1144 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: Selleck mustache very hot. That's all I wanted to say, Sam, 1145 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 1: you would actually absolutely wait, this would really do it? Yeah, Sam, Actually, 1146 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: you know, I think Sam, this might be what you 1147 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: need to snap back into your old self is to 1148 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: watch horny Tom Selleck in the movie In and Out. 1149 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 2: And it's this sounds great. 1150 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about I can't even get into it. It's 1151 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: with Kevin Klein and Joan Cusack. I believe was nominated 1152 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: for an Oscar for it. It's like, whoah, yeah, it's 1153 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: a great. Yeah, you just made it so legitimate. I 1154 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: got scared because, like move it's. 1155 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 3: Like if you know what you know, I can Buffy 1156 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 3: where it's like Don all of a sudden's like dropped 1157 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 3: in season four and she's always existed. I guess I 1158 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 3: feel like it's like Sam and I are dropped into 1159 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 3: the reality where this movie's always existed, and it's like beloved. Yeah, 1160 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 3: like what? 1161 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, Also, when whenever someone's saying, oh, have you ever 1162 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 2: like met someone like or someone's been talking about someone 1163 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 2: and you're like you might know them, they like do commed. 1164 00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 3: Six hundred friends in common with everybody you know? 1165 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: And you're like, yes, you know, I don't know them, 1166 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: and then you looked them up and they're like best 1167 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 2: friends with everyone you know. 1168 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and they're like, we've been hanging out every weekend 1169 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 3: and you're like, no, you haven't. 1170 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, what are your straight topics? Do you think 1171 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: we'll ever Maybe we don't get to it. 1172 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 3: No, we have to, we have I can do it. Okay, 1173 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: Well I had a few things. Okay, So now the 1174 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 3: whole bit is just they're gonna be funny to say, 1175 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 3: so okay. 1176 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 2: Which is valid, like like saying I love gold. 1177 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 3: Two new seconds for you guys? Anything inter out? Okay, 1178 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 3: my new thing? Oh okay, that is a journal entry? Okay, 1179 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 3: So okay, morality. I think it's very straight, needing a 1180 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: code of black and white ethics to guide yourself by, 1181 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 3: because otherwise you'll cause harm. 1182 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: Exactly like it doesn't come from with it. It's like 1183 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: a tank commandment, the idea that before every choice, like fuck, wait, 1184 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: let me check if it violates the tank. 1185 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like babe, okay, and then I'll keep it. 1186 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonn to read it the ends, justifying 1187 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,240 Speaker 3: the means the ends by any means necessary force, however 1188 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 3: you identify that doubt? Comma, are you sure? Shame? 1189 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 1190 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 3: Verbal communication at all? Wait? 1191 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: Explain that one? 1192 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 3: A little more verbal communication? Oh my gosh. To me, 1193 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 3: it's like so like, say what you mean and the 1194 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 3: way that I understand it where it's like you and 1195 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 3: I turn to each other. We've communicated so much. 1196 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: We understand the foe with just one look. 1197 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 3: With one look body language, we can read a room, 1198 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 3: we can see someone's uncomfortable. And it's very straight and 1199 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: patriarchal and capitalists to. 1200 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: Be like you need to have that in writing or 1201 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: to say this right, this right, don't just say that? 1202 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: Why didn't you just say it? 1203 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm making an executive decision that is our topic. 1204 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 3: I think because you guys don't want to know which 1205 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: friend you are. 1206 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, you can keep going, you can keep going. 1207 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: But I think verbal communication is the one. Okay, I 1208 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: think it is. 1209 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 3: But the last one was personality test, Comma, which friend 1210 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 3: are you? 1211 00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 2: Totally? 1212 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean it goes back to that to honestly goes 1213 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: back to the Ten commandments. 1214 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna say the same thing you're kind of 1215 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 2: working with. 1216 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 3: Everything is everything in? 1217 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: Anything? Is everything? 1218 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 3: Anything? Is everything? 1219 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: Anything? Is that you know? 1220 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes? Anything is anything in or out of context? Is 1221 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 2: that what it was? 1222 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: You can't trust me to know anything is anything in 1223 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 1: or out of anything can be anything in or out. 1224 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 3: Of cot Oh okay, So verbal communication eduication. 1225 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: Well, I love the idea. I mean it is truly 1226 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: genius to be like, you know, in an ideal world, 1227 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: everyone should be able to communicate with vibe. I sorry 1228 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: to use this cliche word, but with vibes like it's 1229 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: like you know, a look, a gesture, body language, energy, energy. 1230 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's called being in sync with your environment. 1231 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: It's called being one with nature, one with your surroundings, 1232 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: one with your fellow humans. And as soon as you 1233 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: start speaking or writing things down it is a down 1234 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 1: hill path. 1235 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:56,399 Speaker 3: Yes. 1236 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. It also is like the way that I've been 1237 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: realizing this recently in this thing kind of before where 1238 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: it's like are we unique or are we not? Where 1239 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there are people that can't read people. 1240 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 3: And they didn't know this. 1241 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: No. 1242 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 3: The play is really like illuminated a lot of the 1243 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 3: way I mentally process and like I assumed everyone was 1244 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 3: kind of doing things the same way in their heads. 1245 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 3: And it's like no, no, because then and then I 1246 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 3: had the opportunity because study's close to be like she'd 1247 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: be like, you know, do it more powerfully? And I 1248 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: do what I perceived the word power to be. Yeah, 1249 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 3: but I but then I would not get it and 1250 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 3: she'd be like, that's not it. I'd be like, what 1251 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 3: does power mean? 1252 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: Do you? 1253 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: Can you give me some references of what? And it 1254 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: was something completely different because these words to us mean 1255 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 3: one thing. So then it's like we're not talking about 1256 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 3: the essence or the feeling of something. We're just assuming 1257 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 3: everyone else knows what that word or experience means to you. 1258 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: And this is the false promise of language, is that 1259 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: its goal is to make things more specific, but in 1260 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: fact it only causes more confusion because it makes everyone 1261 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: conform to one meaning that is defined by the hegemony, 1262 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: like that the word power can mean different things to 1263 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: different people, but everyone has to fall in line as 1264 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: soon as the president decides what it means. 1265 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 3: Wait, actually, no, it's genius. 1266 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: It is that. I also think the way that verbal 1267 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: communication is also like in the moment makes sense, like 1268 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm verbally communicated because I have to, and 1269 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 2: you get it, you get what I'm saying. But then 1270 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: when people try to make it use it as proof. 1271 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 2: I do think people try to take verbal communication out 1272 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 2: of context because it proofs that they believe this or 1273 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 2: they and it's like no, no, no, no, no, you 1274 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 2: don't be like that. 1275 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 3: It's so easily manipulated. Like I mean, I want to 1276 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 3: use an example, but I don't know the world enough 1277 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 3: to know if this is like causing a stir. But 1278 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 3: I watched the vander Pump reunion and after that I 1279 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: saw the Tom thing on the news. I didn't watch 1280 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 3: any of it, but it was so funny because someone 1281 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 3: was like he compared himself. 1282 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: To the war and UK totally totally. 1283 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, you guys are manipulating words so bad. 1284 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: You're making this shitty guy look awesome. Because he was like, no, 1285 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: I just said there was like large movements and my 1286 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 3: name was next to them in the news. 1287 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: He literally was saying, like my name it actually made 1288 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: complete sense what he was saying. It made complete He 1289 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: was saying, like, isn't it crazy that I Tom Sandoval, 1290 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: one of the most truly murpy murp people that has 1291 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: ever lived, is in the pages of the New York Times, 1292 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: next to the stories about Ukraine. And by the way, 1293 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: guess who comes out looking bad in that story the 1294 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: New York Times, not Tom stand Ukraine. And then the 1295 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: headline became he like thinks he's as important as Ukraine? Yes, 1296 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: are you people listening to yourself? 1297 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: But that's the word, right. It's like it's like we 1298 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 3: can use it for our needs and we can intentionally 1299 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 3: or unintentionally misunderstand. And that's an intentional misunderstanding. 1300 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but verbal communications. There's so much there. 1301 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 3: Well, okay, here's the theory I have. Now I'm going biblical. 1302 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because it's like we like to pretend like 1303 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 3: we all weren't all forced into like some sort of religion, 1304 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 3: you know, And so Noah basic of these stories. But honey, 1305 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 3: it was everywhere. If you're in America, it was awful. Sorry, George, 1306 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 3: but you were. 1307 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: It was really amazing where I was, and I have 1308 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: no trauma from it. You're like, there's no dogmatics, and 1309 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: this is really progressive. So what so? 1310 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 3: So I think the Tower of Babbel is this story 1311 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 3: in the Old Testament, and it is perfect. 1312 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm so glad you brought this up. I mean, 1313 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: talk about language. 1314 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 3: Okay, you sparked it, yes, when you were saying the 1315 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 3: idea that it's to bring us together. Because this idea 1316 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 3: is all these people in this town wanted to build 1317 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 3: a tower to heaven, to each God. And so what 1318 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 3: God did in the story was made all of them 1319 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 3: speak different languages, so they can never connect and work 1320 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 3: together to build the tower to heaven. But I hear that, 1321 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 3: and I go from a queer perspective, I go, oh 1322 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 3: my gosh, what a concentration of communication, What an opportunity, 1323 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 3: because I don't have words to come together, beyond words 1324 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 3: to connect. So we realized that quote unquote God Heaven 1325 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: is actually the connection, the communication. It is nothing to 1326 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 3: do with this. 1327 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Guess what verbal communication is a punishment from God. 1328 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was getting at. Okay, with your 1329 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 3: hands clawing the armchair, I need that found bite of 1330 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 3: verbal communication is a punishment from God. You pour the 1331 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 3: water all Georgia. 1332 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you to be there for that moment, 1333 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 2: because honestly, I whenever I start hearing about church, my 1334 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 2: mind is like, what is up with me? Now? 1335 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 3: Is it trauma? 1336 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's what do you mean? 1337 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: It's like it's like more like habit. Like it's like 1338 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 2: when someone starts talking about anything church, I go, I'm out. 1339 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Like you don't oh, you just like are not interested. 1340 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 2: I can't engage with it at all. Like even when 1341 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: people are like it's actually really interesting, like it's not 1342 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 2: actually like a soap oprap, I'm always like okay. 1343 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: But I'm I've always I have always noticed that about you. 1344 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Like I remember there was I had this phase where 1345 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I was like, really you might remember this very desperate 1346 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: for places of congregation that are not commerce based, and 1347 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I was like, maybe the solution is for all of 1348 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: us to go back to church. And I just remember 1349 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: you would look at me completely blankly. You'd just be like, no, there's. 1350 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Something I just like cannot do any part of it. 1351 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 2: And even like the story, I understand that they're like 1352 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 2: the stories from the Bible have like you know, are 1353 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 2: just social things that people. 1354 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean fre I mean they're like they're like 1355 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: the gold Member of their time. 1356 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 3: They love gold I mean the Pharisee. I wish I 1357 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 3: had a reference for that. 1358 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Dammit. I understand that there's a direct line from the 1359 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Bible to gold Member. Sure, I still am, like, you 1360 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 2: know what, I'll just take gold Member. Thanks. You know, 1361 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't need to know what is based on do you. 1362 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Here's a question for you, all right, do you think 1363 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: this has to do with the Bible and religion or 1364 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: do you think it has to do with a general 1365 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: disinterest in like super old things. I think it is 1366 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: specifically the Bible, you think, so, okay, so you would 1367 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: be more interested in, like, you know, let's say, Greek 1368 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: mythology or things that are old. 1369 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Greek mythology is juicy, you know. I find Shakespeare interesting, Okay, 1370 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I just don't the Bible. As soon as people start 1371 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: talking about like when I hear the word the Bible, 1372 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: like in the Bible, my brain shut off. 1373 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm listinating but I can see that from you specifically, 1374 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: because I think you have a sensitivity as an artist 1375 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 3: to like theme and like you're like, I can get 1376 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 3: this theme a better way. It could be more fun. 1377 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 1378 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, I know what it is. Sam. 1379 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: It's like, it's your complete and I think this is 1380 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: one of the best things about you, your complete allergic 1381 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: reaction to anything like hack. And I think that the Bible. 1382 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: I think the Bible is so basic, it's so groundwork 1383 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: that you're like, yeah, we've heard it all, like a 1384 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: subversion in the story, give me something new. 1385 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice way of putting it. I hope 1386 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: that's true. That would be an awesome compliment. 1387 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 3: I want the end. I want the end of this 1388 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 3: next actually the next forty five minutes of me and 1389 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 3: Groid to be pitching what we think it might be 1390 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: and to end and SAand being like, Okay, so here's 1391 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 3: this bad thing that hops. 1392 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 2: No, it's nothing. I don't even have that much church trauma. Like, 1393 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: we didn't go to church that much as as as 1394 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I was growing up, so I don't really know what 1395 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 2: it is. It's but I love that theory. 1396 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it's because you didn't go 1397 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: that much that you think you don't know as much 1398 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: about it as you're supposed to do, so then you 1399 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 1: feel embarrassed about that or something chang hit change. 1400 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I maybe there's something about like I don't 1401 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 2: feel like I have ownership over it, like I can't comment. 1402 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 2: I do feel uneducated in it. So I'm like, let's 1403 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: just not talk about it. But I also feel like 1404 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 2: it's so weighted that even playfully talking about it, I 1405 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: feel like I'll step in something that I didn't understand. 1406 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: You don't know it well enough to satirize it with 1407 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: a with an eye towards specificity. 1408 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was well said, thank you, and so it was, And. 1409 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: There's so much talk around it that what are you 1410 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: going to do weigh in and say something not iconic 1411 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: plastic That would be insane, that would. 1412 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 3: Be so, that would be so stupid if you didn't 1413 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 3: say anything, could be anything in or out of contest, 1414 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 3: be stupid if you were to be insane. But I 1415 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 3: also think I understand that completely too though, because I 1416 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 3: have I am obsessed with spirituality. I love my like 1417 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 3: sort of relationship with the unknown, and you do when 1418 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 3: you speak about that have to be like God, spirit, universe, 1419 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 3: whatever you call it. If you have trauma, you have 1420 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 3: to like spend forty five minutes being like, can you 1421 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 3: receive this in a way that isn't through the lens 1422 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 3: of everything bad you've experienced? 1423 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1424 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you through the lens of everything that came 1425 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: before you? And everything? What is the kamal to the 1426 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: lens all that you live in? 1427 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 2: Damn God? Everything is anything, Anything can be anything in 1428 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 2: or out of context. Okay, all right, well okay, so 1429 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: verbal communication I also the way that okay, in the 1430 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 2: similar thing to like the look like there's so many 1431 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 2: ways to communicate via like this kind of goes back 1432 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 2: to my story. I feel where there's like you can 1433 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 2: communicate through like you know, music or like. 1434 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 3: Dance, fashion, save your chest. 1435 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,919 Speaker 2: There's a lot of different ways. 1436 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 3: Say it dead serious, you know, I can't, Sam, Sam, don't. 1437 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't hide behind this semi ironic then near say, 1438 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: with your chest, okay, communicate through fashion and painting? 1439 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 2: You literally can? You literally can? And I know that 1440 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 2: this sounds so insane and. 1441 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 3: Here's some sorry go ahead, mo, No, I'm just all 1442 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 3: of us are like self aware enough to know that 1443 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: like a person having this real conversation with someone is boring, 1444 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 3: so it is fun to get go and be like, 1445 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 3: this is insane, but my fashion tells you who I am. 1446 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: But I actually like yes, but I also all right, 1447 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: hear me out here. 1448 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1449 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: The issue with verbal communication is thinking that it is 1450 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: a more direct communication. That's actually what I mean, Like, 1451 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to give up on words, because in fact, 1452 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: I love I actually think if you just look at 1453 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: writing and speaking as an art form akin to painting 1454 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: or fashion, then it's like then it opens up so much. 1455 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I would never this is not I think. 1456 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Saying verbal communication is straight is not an anti reading 1457 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: stance or an anti talking stance. It's it's merely. 1458 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Anti words supremacy, exactly. 1459 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. It's anti words supremacy. 1460 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,439 Speaker 3: In my brain, I did because I think of words. 1461 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 3: I said A U N T I E. Anti words. 1462 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 3: Please welcome to the stage. 1463 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Because can you imagine if in the way that words 1464 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: have been adopted by a sort of straight coded like 1465 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: reason pilled man masculine sensibility. Okay, imagine if that happened 1466 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 1: with painting, and if there were just like really like 1467 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: muscular conservative men that were just like angrily painting and 1468 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: being like, this is why taxes should be higher or lower. 1469 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 2: You're creating all this is kind of the premise of 1470 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 2: like illegally Blonde, where it's like fashion knowledge should hold 1471 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 2: up in a court of law. 1472 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's intuition. It's intuition, insuition, and we invalidate 1473 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 3: it because that's a very feminine way of communicating. Quoe 1474 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 3: unquote not associated with gender. But yeah, yeah, yeah, oh 1475 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with in this world. Imagine if on the floor, 1476 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 3: what is that turtle guy's name, Mitch McConnell, Imagine if 1477 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 3: he had to go a point to something he painted, 1478 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 3: I could have saycing a word. 1479 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1480 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1481 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: That's that's my challenge for Mitch McConnell say something without 1482 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: saying something. For once. 1483 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 3: I am floored. 1484 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 1: I am floored painting in a court of law, pat 1485 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell has to paint. 1486 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: Wow, that's actually punitive. I mean I was I dated 1487 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 3: this guy briefly who like was artistic and sensitive, but 1488 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 3: like I think had squashed it down for so many 1489 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 3: years that he said this one time. He was like, yeah, 1490 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm working on this, like script where it's about a 1491 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 3: detective who like had a very specific disability that made 1492 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 3: him able to be good at stuff. I go, oh, 1493 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 3: are you that? Why would you ask that? I don't know, 1494 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 3: because your art's about it. I like, you're like, how 1495 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 3: would you know to ask that? I was like, huh. 1496 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 3: And I feel like that as a conversation with so 1497 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 3: many people these days, with the like how did you 1498 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 3: perceive anything about me before I said a word? And 1499 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 3: you're like, I don't know because you're wearing a shirt 1500 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 3: that says like, you know, I love this band. Like, 1501 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 3: so I'm going to ask if you love this band? 1502 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 2: What? Yeah? That is really funny. 1503 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry to say this, but I think we 1504 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: might have to do our last segment. 1505 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're being time guru. 1506 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,679 Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off. 1507 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I just we are you have somewhere to 1508 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: beat well, but not only that, we're holding hostage people 1509 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: in two different studios. 1510 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: No, you have somewhere to be today. Don't lie. 1511 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: Don't excuse me. I'm being professional and respectful of people. 1512 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Okay, George, can I tell you one? I have a confession? 1513 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Okay, what is it? Oh my god, you're both in sunglasses. 1514 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, you can't get them on. 1515 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's humiliating. 1516 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:51,799 Speaker 1: Okay, George, George, this is the most sketch comedy bullshit 1517 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. 1518 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, Okay, I have to tell you something. 1519 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,759 Speaker 2: The reason I'm sensed to be about the time Guru status. 1520 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 2: Someone on Okay, this is insane. Ready, No, someone on 1521 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 2: Spotify left a review comment thing that was like this 1522 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 2: really called me out and was like, Sam is always 1523 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,879 Speaker 2: in a rush. Sam is always in a rush. 1524 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 3: And they're begetting to wrap it up, they're projecting. 1525 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 2: And he does he even want to be there anymore? 1526 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck? And it actually 1527 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 2: pissed me off, and I've been unable to shake it. 1528 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 2: That is easy, And I also don't think it's true. 1529 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,719 Speaker 1: No, it's not true. 1530 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 2: But that's why I'm sensitive to Time Guru. You cannot 1531 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 2: read Spotify reviews. 1532 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 3: I love that vulnerability, thank you. And it's giving Big Daddy, 1533 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 3: like you put the sunglasses on to be able to. 1534 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Say you put on the sunglasses of truth. 1535 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving Big Daddy unbelievable. 1536 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 3: I think that version was projecting because they also probably 1537 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 3: want to spend time with you or maybe identify as 1538 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 3: you know George and are protective of George. 1539 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: And sure, I've never felt that you're in a rush. 1540 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I understand that we now are in this 1541 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: like are in this mythology where we each have clearly 1542 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,560 Speaker 1: defined roles when it comes to being time guru. But 1543 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: I've always felt pretty like that it's been pretty naturally 1544 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: back and forth. 1545 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 2: No, I agree. 1546 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 3: I like the idea that if this podcast stops recording, 1547 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 3: like we create sort of a myth around you guys 1548 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 3: where it's like at a party, like both of you 1549 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 3: are like none of these identities. Like at a party, 1550 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 3: if I'm speaking to either of you, it's. 1551 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: Like like like, wait, that's really smart, but it is true. 1552 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 1: Also, I was like, one thing I was thinking during 1553 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 1: my incredible Pride weekend was I was sort of like 1554 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 1: I am not in any in all these conversations I'm having. 1555 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not being especially funny or interesting, but it sort 1556 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: of doesn't matter because I'm just in this sea of identical. 1557 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 3: Gay man that's so funny. You're being taken care of 1558 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 3: by anonymity. 1559 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Like my role is just to like we're literally just 1560 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: all doing the wave, and my role is when it's 1561 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: my turn to just put my hands up sort of 1562 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: half farheartedly. 1563 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 2: I love that, and maybe that's what I liked. 1564 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I liked about Pride. We also everyone 1565 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 1: looked exactly this. I can't describe to you how everyone 1566 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: was wearing a black tank top, like and normally I 1567 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: feel like maybe maybe a few years ago, when I 1568 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 1: was sort of like, so, you know, I'm not like 1569 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: other girls, I'd be like, god, I can't pilate if 1570 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: everyone's being the same. And now I'm like, thank god, 1571 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: everyone's being the same. 1572 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean talk about communication fashion literally. 1573 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 3: But it's also talking about having such a strong sultance 1574 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 3: of self that you find relief in the similarity. 1575 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I mean I yeah. When I went 1576 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 2: to Bears in Space three weeks ago, I was like, oh, 1577 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm wearing my outfit and I showed up in literally 1578 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 2: everyone's wearing the exact same. 1579 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 3: Outful can I and the mics remember everybody were a 1580 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 3: tank top to their like. 1581 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: Yeah that can? 1582 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 2: I say? 1583 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: This is a real stretch and I'm so sorry. This 1584 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: is very much me being Tom Sandoval comparing myself to Ukraine, 1585 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: but here we go. This is something I also feel 1586 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in the past. You know, i'd say six months if 1587 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm I've gone with you protest. I feel like my 1588 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 1: favorite part of being in a protest is not everyone's 1589 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 1: unique sign and unique perspective. It's being in a crowd 1590 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: of people where you almost like lose yourself and are 1591 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 1: like it feels good to be part of this big 1592 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 1: mass that is attempting to do. 1593 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Something completely, you know what I mean. I think that's 1594 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 3: a very acute understanding of what like grassports or recording 1595 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 3: organizing and like what movements are because a lot of 1596 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 3: people feel they individually need to be something and it's like, no, 1597 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 3: you matter when you are some of the party. 1598 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually don't like a witty sign like 1599 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 1: go like go post that on No, I agree with that. 1600 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that this is actually have some respect. 1601 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,679 Speaker 2: Well, it's also like social media culture versus like actual activism. 1602 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I am so it's so liberating to be like 1603 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: I am not a leader here, I am a follower 1604 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and I am proud of it. 1605 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, I was thinking that's our role, 1606 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, there's people whose lives 1607 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 3: are devoted to organizing, and we go to what six 1608 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 3: protests a year. 1609 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: It's like, exactly, there's. 1610 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 3: Many people who try and center themselves in those spaces, 1611 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 3: and it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, Sweet. 1612 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Tea, Okay, we have to do our final segment. 1613 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Okay, we have to do our final segment. 1614 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 2: More final segment. It's called shout outs, and then the 1615 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 2: segment we shout out uh in the style of two 1616 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 2: thousand and one TRL or radio shout out. Shout out 1617 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 2: to your squad back home about anything that you enjoy. George, 1618 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 2: do you have one? So that was actually really hard 1619 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 2: because Moe was making mouthing as if saying what I 1620 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: was saying at me. 1621 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 3: I did that straight. 1622 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 1: So shooters, damn yeah, I can do and I can 1623 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: do one real quick. Okay, okay, what's up theater goers 1624 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 1: play bill posters out there? I want to give a 1625 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 1: shout out to the actor Daniel Radcliffe. You know, I 1626 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: want to say, as a former Harry Potter tween, as 1627 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,679 Speaker 1: someone who has no has seen your face at this point, 1628 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: for you know, over half of my life, I am 1629 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 1: so proud of you for the man you have become. 1630 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: I just saw Daniel Radcliffe on Broadway last night in 1631 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Merrily We Roll Along. Such a great actor, did a 1632 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: very passable American accent, great singer, and incredible stage presence. 1633 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Despite you know, your short stature for being honest, I 1634 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 1: think has handled the jqrelling thing incredibly well and navigated 1635 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: it with poise and with class. I believe he is 1636 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: such a sweet man who has made interesting artistic choices. 1637 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,679 Speaker 1: I am so proud that the defining kind of middle 1638 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: brow childhood franchise of my generation has such a strong 1639 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 1: and talented leader at its helm, and I cannot wait 1640 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 1: for the rest of his career and for the things 1641 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 1: he will do in the spaces of the stage, the screen, 1642 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: and of course activism. I love that that was That 1643 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: was actually very earnest, That was really good, That. 1644 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 3: Was fully built, That was beautiful. 1645 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: I have one okay I had and I'm actually gonna 1646 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 2: change it based on George's okay, what's uh freaks, losers 1647 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 2: and perverts around the globe? I was gonna shout out 1648 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 2: the teens in my town in Michigan that have I 1649 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 2: feel the Internet has shifted them and gotten to them 1650 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,559 Speaker 2: in a way that I really do celebrate. Uh. When 1651 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 2: when we were teens there, it was bad, but when 1652 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 2: you guys are teens there, it seems kind of fun. Okay, 1653 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 2: But the thing I'm actually gonna shout out, based on 1654 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 2: George's shout out, is Emma Watson. I cut him out 1655 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 2: ring and I said, you know what, I like this performance. 1656 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I think she is. 1657 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,679 Speaker 2: I love the wig. I think Emma Watson is sure. 1658 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 2: She doesn't pomp on the screen in the same way, 1659 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 2: but I think she there's something there. And I am 1660 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 2: kind of like, you know what, it's hard to be 1661 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 2: Hermione Granger and move on, and not everyone can be 1662 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 2: Daniel Damn Radcliffe. Some people people are like, oh, she's 1663 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 2: kind of mean. I'm like, okay, that's good. She's allowed. 1664 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 2: She's her childhood was taken from her by Harry Potter, 1665 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 2: and not everyone is gonna be so tasteful. And I 1666 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 2: think she is sort of, you know, maybe what a 1667 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 2: normal person would be like if they were cast as 1668 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Hermione in one of the news franchises of all time. 1669 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 2: And Emma Watson, she's still out there. I think I 1670 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 2: liked her in Little Women. I like Little Women, I think, 1671 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 2: and I like the bling ring And I think everyone 1672 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 2: has been kind of mean to her, and sure there's 1673 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 2: some reasons why, but I think I celebrate her and 1674 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 2: give her a shout out, and so I don't regret 1675 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 2: this at all and I never will xoxo Sam. 1676 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: And to that, I want to say, in terms of 1677 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,880 Speaker 1: Emma Watson's acting abilities, anything can be anything in or 1678 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 1: out of context. 1679 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 3: That is so fucking true. That's crazy. I'm sorry, it's 1680 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 3: so funny. For every five seconds, we'd be like, I 1681 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 3: love our shop popmen screen, I love our short people, 1682 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 3: have the reason I love Oh my. 1683 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Sam, that was the most. 1684 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 1: That was the most like qualified, yeah. 1685 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,560 Speaker 3: Like am Maybe someone could send this to her and 1686 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,639 Speaker 3: be like, oh, there's still. 1687 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 2: No I think she was good. I liked her in 1688 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 2: the Bling Ring. I thought it was like an interesting 1689 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 2: It's hard to tell obviously, like what is like I 1690 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,519 Speaker 2: want to rob? I want to rob. 1691 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Here's the ring, of course. I think it's it's fun. 1692 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: I love the Bling Ring. Here's what makes me upset 1693 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: is imagine if it was Emma Roberts, how much better 1694 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that much better? 1695 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 2: I think the character is I think she was playing 1696 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 2: flop on purpose, like the character is supposed to be 1697 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,799 Speaker 2: kind of a loser who's like never gonna go anywhere, 1698 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 2: right right, right, right, Well, it's very like that really 1699 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 2: came through. 1700 01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I think it is a British person's like idea of 1701 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 1: what it did see Californian American is and in that sense, 1702 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of like a fascinating anthropological study. 1703 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 2: Not no, I think. 1704 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 3: I think what's hard for her though, is that, like 1705 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 3: the whole that was the first sort of iteration of 1706 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 3: quote unquote type cast for our generation where it's like, 1707 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 3: how are you going to break free from this? Like 1708 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 3: Dana Raka was naked on stage with the horse. 1709 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: It's like, yes, I think it was a good decision 1710 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 1: for her to do that. 1711 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's a high caliber. I mean, she's doing 1712 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 3: Sophia Coppola, you know, Like, so I think your damned. 1713 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 3: But also I always walk when someone's like she's actually 1714 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 3: a bitch, I'm like, did she just did say something? Directly? 1715 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,680 Speaker 2: I definitely think she's allowed to be. 1716 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 3: But I don't even think that's a bit. 1717 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like you know what I mean, Yeah, 1718 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 1: I always think of her in perks of being a 1719 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,759 Speaker 1: wallflower saying welcome to the island of misfit. 1720 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 2: Toys. 1721 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 3: I remember now when the end up back in the 1722 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 3: truck and the commercial. 1723 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: They said that, Okay, wait, I'm sorry to be time Guruba. 1724 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 3: I have to do I have to do my story. Sorry. Okay, well, 1725 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 3: I was trying to think and I like listen, I'm 1726 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 3: unfortunately like huge Harry Potter person one point had the 1727 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 3: second book memorized nor a different child. But I'm not 1728 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 3: going to do that. There's plenty of time for that. So, okay, 1729 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 3: is my music started. 1730 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 2: No night, Ye'll start whenever you know the vibe hate YouTube. Okay. 1731 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 3: So my thing is shout out to having friends who 1732 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 3: are very comfortable with me being obsessed with and shout 1733 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 3: out to Sam and your who I will constantly text 1734 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 3: and actually hold back a lot of times, and maybe 1735 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 3: not constantly text, but think about and being like that 1736 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 3: joke he did from twenty years ago was so good. 1737 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 3: And I think about George's Fidora Fidora Fedora about a 1738 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 3: Broadway actor. Google tweet all the time. I sometimes too 1739 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 3: many times text Sam about tweets he did in twenty 1740 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 3: fifteen about saying he was so hungover he could see time, 1741 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 3: and then all his Chow Bonnie tweets which were like, 1742 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,600 Speaker 3: chow Bonnie, lie over the ocean. Cho Bonnie, lie over 1743 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 3: the sea, Chow me the Bonnie, and just shout out 1744 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 3: to my friends, who like, since day one, are the 1745 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 3: funniest people I've ever met, and also like when I 1746 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 3: text them about Checkov's butt plug, they're like, they're not 1747 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 3: like chill mo, They're like, thank you, and you guys 1748 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 3: are the best that I love very much. 1749 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,559 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's so sweet too. 1750 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: You know our night on the along the Hollywood Walk 1751 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: of Fame? Do you remember this? 1752 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 3: Oh god, I have not since then laughed that hard. 1753 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: It's it's really difficult to describe. We were simply walking 1754 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 1: on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and every time we'd 1755 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 1: see a name, which is constantly, we would act as 1756 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 1: though we actually saw that. We would just be like 1757 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: we would scream the Beatles and we'd be like we 1758 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 1: love them. 1759 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 3: Like it was like, I'm sorry, I keep spiking this 1760 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 3: whole episode, but we would all three. It wasn't even 1761 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,839 Speaker 3: like are we going to do it again? It was everyone, 1762 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 3: we're doing well. 1763 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Actually, I think became a yeah, and I think when 1764 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 1: we released this episode, I'm going to publish the photos 1765 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,719 Speaker 1: of because i have photos of it, Watson. 1766 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, remember Georgia Greager, me and Sam would dot. 1767 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 3: I was in Daniel's hand and Sam was in Emma's 1768 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 3: hands at the theater, the Chinese theater. 1769 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 1: Literally anything can be an Okay, we have to I'm 1770 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 1: so late. I love you so much. Okay, sorry, George, 1771 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 1: relate that this was the greatest day of my life. 1772 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 1: All right, bye Moe, I love you, Love you, Bye 1773 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: bye podcast and now want more. Subscribe to our Patreon 1774 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: for two extra episodes a month, discord access and more 1775 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,799 Speaker 1: by heading to patreon dot com. Slash Stradio lab. 1776 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: And for all our visual learners, free full length video 1777 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 2: episodes are available on our YouTube. 1778 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,559 Speaker 1: Now get back to work.