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Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky.

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Speaker 2: Listener Discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: August seventeenth, eighteen eighty five, The Leroy Times draws a

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Speaker 1: sad picture of the Genesee County Almshouse. It says, sixty

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Speaker 1: two paupers are huddled together on the third floor, which

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Speaker 1: is only high enough directly in the center for a

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Speaker 1: man to stand erect.

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Speaker 2: There is little.

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Speaker 1: Ventilation, and the air is foul and sickening, reminding one

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Speaker 1: of the Black Hole of Calcutta. April fifteenth, eighteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: Albert Henson, the tramp whose pitiable condition was told in

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Speaker 1: yesterday's Times, is now at the Genesee County Almshouse. His

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Speaker 1: socks were removed for the first time since his feet

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Speaker 1: were frozen. Large portions of both feet came off today.

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Speaker 1: Remaining portions will be amputated. December fourth, eighteen ninety six,

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Speaker 1: James Driscoll, an inmate of the Genesee County Almshouse at Bethany,

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Speaker 1: cut his throat with a pocket knife and died in

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Speaker 1: a few hours. He was ninety seven years old and

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Speaker 1: was despondent because of failing eyesight. March thirty first, nineteen fifteen,

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Speaker 1: dead man's hand clutched fast to whiskey bottle. John Oshman

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Speaker 1: fell into a ditch and froze to death on his

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Speaker 1: way to the Genesee County Almshouse. It was evident from

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Speaker 1: the condition of the man's body that he had frozen

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Speaker 1: to death during the night. In one of his hands,

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Speaker 1: he had a quart bottle about half filled with whiskey.

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Speaker 1: Oashman left the county home Monday afternoon without permission. It

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Speaker 1: took me all of thirty minutes of research to find

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Speaker 1: these articles referencing the dark history at this location, a

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Speaker 1: location now known as Rolling Hill's Asylum, a place I

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Speaker 1: have yet to visit, so let's discover it and all

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Speaker 1: of its hauntings together. I'm Amy Bruney, and this is

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Speaker 1: Haunted Road. In East Bethany, New York, an ominous two

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Speaker 1: and a half story building looms over Bethany Center Road.

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Speaker 1: It's a wide shaped structure, meaning its entrance is set

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Speaker 1: further back from the street than its two wings. This

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Speaker 1: gives it an appearance like it's reaching forward to grab

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Speaker 1: passers by and pull them into its depths. The building

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Speaker 1: is made of red brick, and it's in a state

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Speaker 1: of disrepair. Many of the windows that form a grid

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Speaker 1: across its front side are broken. The inside isn't much better.

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Speaker 1: The long sterile halls are underlit, the walls are bare

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Speaker 1: other than their peeling paint. Abandoned objects sits scattered around,

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Speaker 1: everything from old dolls, crates, and boxes to embalming tables, sinks,

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Speaker 1: and two large refrigerators in the morgue. Not too far off,

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Speaker 1: the kitchen has its own pair of equally large meat freezers.

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Speaker 1: This feels like exactly the sort of place you might

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Speaker 1: picture when you hear the words haunted building, and sure enough,

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Speaker 1: an eerie sign stands just outside the facility. It reads,

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Speaker 1: this asylum is a nationally known center of supernatural activity.

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Speaker 1: Spirits believed to still roam grounds, crossing between this world

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Speaker 1: and next. This place is called the Rolling Hills Asylum,

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Speaker 1: and it was built in eighteen twenty six to provide

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Speaker 1: housing for the poor. At that time, the community of

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Speaker 1: East Bethan in New York was growing rapidly and new

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Speaker 1: residents came pouring in looking for work. Sadly, there wasn't

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Speaker 1: much affordable housing for these people, nor could they access

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Speaker 1: many financial safety nets. At that time, it was common

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Speaker 1: for government officials to run poor houses for low or

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Speaker 1: no income people, and when the Rolling Hills Asylum opened

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Speaker 1: its door in December twenty first, eighteen twenty seven, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what it was meant to be.

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Speaker 2: A poorhouse.

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Speaker 1: It was also known as either the Genesee County Poorhouse

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Speaker 1: or the Genesee County Almshouse. It stood in the center

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Speaker 1: chance for poor and unemployed people, as well as those

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Speaker 1: with substance abuse disorders, mental health conditions, and physical disabilities. Residents,

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Speaker 1: all of whom were dubbed inmates, moved there not only

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Speaker 1: The poorhouse was also a farm, with inmates raising livestock,

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Speaker 1: harvesting crops, or preparing food in the on site cannery

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Speaker 1: and bakery. The facility also offered schooling to the resident's children.

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Speaker 1: Sadly we see this so often. The government officials who

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Speaker 1: The story described how eighteen residents shared a single poorly

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Speaker 1: a mental health related state agency determined that the facility

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Speaker 1: board of directors passed a new policy, saying that moving forward,

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Speaker 1: they'd only house low income residents and those who were

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Speaker 1: unemployed due to substance abuse. The inmates who needed mental

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Speaker 1: health treatment were transferred to other facilities that were better

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Speaker 1: I'll also note that the Residents changed its name around

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Speaker 1: as the Rolling Hills Asylum for the rest of this episode. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: only a few decades later, Rolling Hills was once again

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Speaker 1: dangerously overcrowded. In nineteen thirty six, a deadly typhoid outbreak

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Speaker 1: spread among the inmates, killing nine. It was almost impossible

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Speaker 1: every square inch of space was already in use. But

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Speaker 1: even after the deadly disease swept through the facility, numerous

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Speaker 1: inmates chose to remain at the Rolling Hills Asylum. For

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Speaker 1: many of them, it was the only home they'd ever known.

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Speaker 1: Take the story of Roy Kraus. Reportedly, he stood it

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Speaker 1: over seven feet tall. It said this was because he

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Speaker 1: had a form of gigantism, but I have not been

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Speaker 1: able to verify that claim. I also haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to corroborate the rumors that Roy's family considered his large

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Speaker 1: age fifty two. Roy loved reading books and listening to

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Speaker 1: classical music and opera. Inmates and employees alike found him

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Speaker 1: to be kind and gentle, and they soon got used

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Speaker 1: to seeing his bulky frame hunched over the books in

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Speaker 1: the asylum's library, voraciously reading. All to say. For all

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Speaker 1: the asylum's flaws, it was a safe space for many.

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Speaker 1: In the fifties and sixties, it expanded with new wings

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Speaker 1: its focus. Instead of functioning as a poorhouse for low

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Speaker 1: But the expansions and new additions weren't enough to bring

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Speaker 1: the old, crumbling building up to code. The board poured

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Speaker 1: money into renovations and reconstructions, but a review suggested that

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Speaker 1: updates to keep the facility running. Adjusted for inflation, that

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Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of eight million dollars today. Rather

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Speaker 1: than spend the money, In nineteen seventy four, it closed

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Speaker 1: last time it functioned as a housing facility. In the

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Speaker 1: nineties and two thousands, the building reopened, now as a

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Speaker 1: craft shop and antique mall. Interestingly enough, many of the

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Speaker 1: abandoned objects that visitors can find in Rolling Hills today,

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Speaker 1: the toys, the dolls, and the boxes, date to its

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Speaker 1: time as a shopping plaza, rather than its time as

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Speaker 1: and around that time it went through another rebranding. From

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Speaker 1: then until this day, Rolling Hills Asylum has marketed itself

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Speaker 1: as a haunted tour destination. It's been featured on Destination Fear,

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Speaker 1: Ghost Adventures, BuzzFeed Unsolved, and Ghost Hunters. This comes as

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Speaker 1: no surprise. The asylum is a hot spot for spectral activity,

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Speaker 1: so much so that in twenty twenty three, HGTV named

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Speaker 1: it the creepiest place in the whole state of New York.

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Speaker 1: Roy's massive spirit is said to roam the asylum's halls.

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Speaker 1: Witnesses have often spotted his unusually large handprints on doors,

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Speaker 1: windows and tables, and a few visitors have captured a

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Speaker 1: hulking seven foot tall figure on camera. He sometimes speaks

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Speaker 1: to spiritual investigators via EVPs. Just as Roy was known

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Speaker 1: to be kind and gentle in life, he's also a

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Speaker 1: Sharon Coyle, has even claimed that Roy helps her keep

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Speaker 1: scene was Sharon apparently saw this as a sign that

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Speaker 1: This was his way of handling pest control. Presumably, another

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Speaker 1: spirit named Hattie seems to dwell in her former bedroom

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Speaker 1: Rolling Hills Asylum wasn't functioning as a poorhouse in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Whatever her history may be, Hattie seems to be friendly.

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Speaker 1: Dale Kasmarak of the Ghost Research Society wrote that George

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Speaker 1: five in nineteen forty one. Before he passed, George reportedly

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Speaker 1: That's likely why these days his ghost doesn't talk. It

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Speaker 1: He only means to greet them. Other specters are just

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Speaker 1: One such spirit is known as either Nurse Emma or

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Speaker 1: no Nurse Emmy. Supposedly she used to work at the asylum,

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Speaker 1: Wherever she came from, Nurse Emmy might still dabble in

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Speaker 1: and Chronicle, on at least one occasion, Emmy's old coven

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Speaker 1: inside to find pentagrams drawn on the floor. Apparently the

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Speaker 1: spellcasters also left candlewax and piles of rocks behind.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: The ghost known as Nurse Emmy is also known to

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Speaker 1: Now you're you know, you're in New York. So how

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Speaker 2: Really, I can only imagine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, you know, it's one of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I am supposed to be here. It's just

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I often daydream about owning a location

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Speaker 1: But then I meet people like you who are always

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Speaker 3: So the beauty of you, though, is that you have

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Speaker 1: But myself fine, I will buy the asylum sharing Fine,

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Speaker 1: I will.

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Speaker 3: So. I mean so that you know, it's just a

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Speaker 3: a three year old car with eleven thousand miles on

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00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: it because I don't go anywhere. I'm here. No, I

430
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: feel that all the time, you know. Yeah, and people

431
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: people come in and they go, oh, you know, must

432
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: been making good money.

433
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: I got news for you, and none of us are.

434
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: It's funny, I mean, and I'm not. And again I'm

435
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: not complaining. Please, I don't want anyone out there to

436
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: say she's bitching. I'm not. No, you know, I'm just

437
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: being real with people because people have a misconception of

438
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: what property owners are doing and what the hell they're living.

439
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: And maybe others are living high in the hog, but

440
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: also we are not.

441
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: I think it's honestly like a very valuable message for

442
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: a lot of folks out there, you know, because I

443
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: do think a lot of people think about that or

444
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: they think of it as a money making opportunity, and

445
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that they always realize everything that goes

446
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: into it. And so I actually think I'm very glad

447
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: we went down this road today. What we were chatting

448
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: is so before we get into the ghosts and things.

449
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: So I think, like I said, I think it's a

450
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: very valuable message and I would love to get it

451
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: out there. So I'm glad you brought it up. But

452
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: along those lines, you bought it because you love ghosts

453
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: and I know this about you again and huntings and spirits.

454
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: So you obviously went there and you investigated with an

455
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: event and whatnot, But like, what was it from a

456
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: supernatural standpoint that that called you to Rolling Hills? Like

457
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: did something happen? Did you see something? Like what was it?

458
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: Well? It was really crazy. I mean, like I said,

459
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: I was here June twelfth, thirteen Friday the thirteenth, and fourteen,

460
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, and I got so many full

461
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: body apparitions on foot, like clear crazy stuff you know,

462
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: class aavps, a bunch of stuff that even after I

463
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: went back to California, I kept going back and looking

464
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 3: at this evidence. It was like on the back of

465
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 3: my mind constantly, which is really strange because you know,

466
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: we had the Queen Mary and the US's Hornet Wolf

467
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: Manor and all this place I used to go to

468
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, But this place just hooked me,

469
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: and I really swear that they had to have picked me.

470
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: A couple of weird things that happened. When I came

471
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 3: back in May to look at the property with a

472
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: friend of mine. I was walking out the back door

473
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: with the owner at the time, and I stood in

474
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: the in the doorway and I and no one else

475
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: is in the building, just the three of us. So

476
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: it's my friend and they had previous owners out the door,

477
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: and it's just to have us standing in the doorway.

478
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: And I hollered and I said, look, I'm not going

479
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: to leave you guys alone. I'm going to do my

480
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: best to buy the property. You know, I don't want to,

481
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, think that this is going to get torn.

482
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: I'm going to do everything I can in my power.

483
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: And coming from wherever, some woman it sounded like she

484
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: was like three stories up leaning over a rail and

485
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: she goes bye like that. It was so loud. We

486
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: just all looked at each other. It was crazy. And

487
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: then the second time I came to look at it,

488
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: when I came to look at it with my husband

489
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: at the time, I got home and it was the

490
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: day of answering machines and I used to work from

491
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: home because I had a corporate job and I was

492
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: checking my messages and I got this one message. It

493
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: was on a Tuesday on the machine and there was

494
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: no incoming number and all it was, and I still

495
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: have the recording to this day it said I seen ghosts.

496
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: And then there was a hang up, and I was

497
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: so weird. So I called the phone company and I said, look,

498
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: I think someone is stocking me. Blah blah blah blah blah.

499
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: You know, I want to have this trace, and they go, well,

500
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: you can't really try to have to make a police report.

501
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: I said, okay, fine, can you tell me if there

502
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: were any incoming calls or outgoing calls on this number

503
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: on this date and you know this date, which was whatever,

504
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: that Tuesday was no incoming calls, no outgoing calls, just

505
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: this message from the nether world of saying I seen ghosts.

506
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: And I did. I saw ghosts, you know, so I

507
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: really do think they picked me whatever reason. And then

508
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: the day I bought the property, after I left the

509
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: courthouse and after the people called me and you know,

510
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: we went back and you know, talked about it and

511
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: I ended up being able to buy it. I came

512
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: in the property, and I was walking through with some

513
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: friends of mine, had a recorder going, and I stopped

514
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 3: in this one area and I'm just talking and just

515
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: get me go, oh look at this, look at that,

516
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: La la, la, la la. And then when I played

517
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: back the record, there's some spirit woman. She's going she's

518
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 3: the owner. So all I can think is that the

519
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: gaggle of spirits were following me through the building and

520
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, poking each other in the in the in

521
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: the ribs, saying who the hell is this woman? And

522
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: the one spirit goes, she's the owner. And I have

523
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: that recording to this to this day too, So it

524
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: was very crazy. It's crazy.

525
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: So they're very they're very aware of you.

526
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: And now do you feel like you obviously you've been

527
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: there now for fifteen years or so, do you feel

528
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: like that kind of familiarity that they have with you

529
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: has just gotten even more kind of intense?

530
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure. I mean, even like starting

531
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: in the beginning and then going forward a little bit,

532
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: but like in the first few years when I were

533
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: like I couldn't afford rom and you know, I'd be

534
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: like crying and and you know, what am I going

535
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: to do? And I can remember a couple of different times.

536
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: I'd go into the building after we've cleaned up a

537
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: certain area and I'd walk down this hallway that we

538
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: just cleaned the night of the night before, and it was,

539
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, very spotless, and you'd walk in and all

540
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: of a sudden, there'd be an envelope in the middle

541
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: of the floor with dimes and nickels in it, like

542
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: they were trying to give me money. One time I

543
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: walked in, I hadn't been in the building in two days,

544
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: last person out, first person in, doing a tour, and

545
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm headed towards the morgue with you know, twenty people

546
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: behind me, and I stopped dead because my light's shining

547
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: in the morgue and I see the more table and

548
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: there's five vintage silver dollars from eighteen twenties to the

549
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties sitting on the moor table, right in a row.

550
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: So they're like gathering up what they could for you.

551
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I mean people, it's hard for people to

552
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: actually fathom that are telling the truth. But I have them.

553
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: I have the quints, I have pictures of everything. It

554
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: blows me away. It just blows me away. We do

555
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: a lot of role playing when we investigate out here,

556
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: and you know, I'll be sitting in one of the

557
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: wheelchairs and saying, I need help. I need a bedpan

558
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: of cold, can you help me? I need to find

559
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: my room, and a wary or seven a half foot

560
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: shadow man who is like my favorite guy in the world.

561
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: Here he'll come out and though people get pictures of

562
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: him standing over me with his headquirked because he's seven

563
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: and a half feet tall, with a hand on my

564
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: shoulder and a hand on my knee trying to help me,

565
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: it's just it's pretty phenomenal.

566
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: Do you think they know, like when you have tours

567
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: and investigations and events and whatnot, do you think that

568
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: the spirits know that those are like a revenue source

569
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: and are helping the location in a way.

570
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident that they are. And I'll tell you

571
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: a funny I think it's a funny little story, and

572
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: people can go on SoundCloud and listen to this particular thing.

573
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you. A few years ago, we

574
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: caught people vaping in the building. I don't know, smoking, vaping,

575
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: you know, And so I asked the people to leave.

576
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: Blah blah, blah. And one of the guys that was

577
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: helping me out on the tours, Andrew, was up by

578
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: Emma nurse Emma's room, and so he went back up

579
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: to check on her, because she's very serious, old world German,

580
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, she's very very strict on things. So he

581
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: goes into her room and goes, miss Emmer, are you okay?

582
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: And on the recorder she goes, no, they're smoking in here.

583
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: She was pissed, and you'll go on SoundCloud and hear it.

584
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: It's it's she was really irritated, Like.

585
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

586
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: You'll have to send me some of these and I

587
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: can add them to the to the broadcast because they're

588
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: to the podcast, because I feel like.

589
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: People would want to hear them.

590
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: So maybe friends, at the end of this, when we're done,

591
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: I'll have a little snippet and I'll play those for

592
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: you because I think that's fascinating.

593
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: And you know, so it.

594
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: Really it sounds like too you've you've assigned like names

595
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: and personalities and everything to all of these or to

596
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: many of these spirits. Have you been able to trace

597
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: them back historically to like living people at some point?

598
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely a lot of them. We have like narise Emma.

599
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: A lot of her relatives that live in the area

600
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: come here. They buy a ticket and they come here

601
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: and they visit her.

602
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

603
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: And then so I do have a lot of a

604
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: lot of the spirits that they do know for facts.

605
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 3: These are their names, this is what they told us.

606
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: We can track them who they are. There's a lot

607
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: of them I call my flybys where I don't necessarily

608
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: have a name, but they'll they'll interact and I'll know

609
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: them by certain ways. And some of them we only

610
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: know their first name because they only tell us a

611
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: little bit about themselves. So there's no way to track

612
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: who they are, of course, if you never have a

613
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: last name or date or something. But I would say

614
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: there's a good ten or fifteen of them that we

615
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: have historical solid information on.

616
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: And it sounds like a lot of the activity you

617
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: have is pretty well intelligent in nature, like I said,

618
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: but then also just very kind of in your face,

619
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: like we're talking apparitions and voices and shadow figures. Like

620
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: how prevalent is it? Is it pretty reliable or are

621
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: there do you have kind of like dry spells where

622
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: nothing happens, Well.

623
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Obviously, any location can ebb and flow.

624
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: In my experience and I'm sure in your experience too,

625
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: a lot of it really also depends on the people

626
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: investigating and their energy, their belief, their sensitivity. What they

627
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: put out into it is what they're going to get back.

628
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I get a lot of people that are newbies, you know,

629
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: that have never done it before, only you know, done

630
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: it casually once or twice, and or some of them

631
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: bring you know, loved ones that have been dragged here

632
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: because they're not really good to it for the girlfriend

633
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: wants to come, that kind of stuff. So you know,

634
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: they have different different perspectives like oh, you know, I

635
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: don't really believe or whatever, And so it can go

636
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: either way with the spirits. If you don't believe, they

637
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: can get in your face. You don't believe I'm gonna

638
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: make you believe, you know that, you're gonna really, you know,

639
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: go out of here shaking your head, or if you

640
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: know you're out there with a negative attitude, they're gonna

641
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I'm not gonna bother with you.

642
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: Why would I waste my energy trying to communicate with

643
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: you when you think it's bullshit? And oh sorry, if anyways,

644
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: sorry about that, but you know, so it can really

645
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: ebb and flow. Honestly, though, there were really well known

646
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: for EVPs, especially class A vps, especially intelligent responses, a

647
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: lot of you know, full body apparitions, a lot of

648
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: shadow people, doors opening and closing. There's just so much here.

649
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: It's and I've been around, like I mean, not as

650
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: much as you have. And that sounds really bad, but

651
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I haven't been.

652
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: You haven't been around as much as me shares.

653
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 3: But and of course now over the last fifteen years,

654
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: I can't get the hell out of here, but I've

655
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: investigated a lot of other places. But honestly, I would

656
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 3: not have given up living a mile from the beach

657
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 3: in Huntington, be California to live in the NUKA, the north,

658
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: you know, and take on this property if it wasn't

659
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: that phenomenal. It really truly was that phenomenal.

660
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: Right, No, And I think that says a lot like you,

661
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, like like you said, you grew up

662
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, which is where I am sitting currently,

663
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's snowing.

664
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: There's feet of snow around me.

665
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: And then so then you got that taste of like

666
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: the you know, the warmth and the beach and like

667
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: so cal and and like you said, there's a lot

668
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: of haunts there and everything. So I I feel like

669
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: to get someone out of that, especially by yourself. You know,

670
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, it has to be something special,

671
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: it has to be your calling. And so I completely

672
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: understand that, you know, as someone who left California as

673
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: well for Spooky New England, I totally get. So when

674
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: you have people come in to investigate, I'm sure you

675
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: kind of give them some protocols and whatnot, Like what

676
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: do you tell people when they come in, like if

677
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: they want to have activity or or like do you

678
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: have like some ground rules that you've set for them

679
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: or how does that work?

680
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean, there's always rules to the establishment, which you know,

681
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: we don't need to go into the boring stuff of that.

682
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: But as far as how to investigate and everything, you know,

683
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: the biggest thing I always tell people is a be upbeat,

684
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, have a good attitude and be patient because

685
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: you know, obviously the shows have been very good to

686
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: both of us, but they also give a lot of

687
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 3: people a false sense of how things are done because

688
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: they're edited down to fifty four minutes, and they think

689
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: all this stuff will happen and like no time in

690
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: a blank of an eye. And if they walk in

691
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: a room and spend two and a half minutes and

692
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: walk out and do that to the hundred plus rooms

693
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: and say, well nothing's happened, Well, you just walked in

694
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: and out in a minute and a half. Of course

695
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: nothing's gonna happen. They don't even know. If they like you,

696
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: if they want to talk to you, they can be

697
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: in the room down the hall patients patients. Patients, record

698
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: a lot of audio, take a pluthor of pictures, ask

699
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: good questions, don't be disrespectful, and you know, the more

700
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: you put out there, the more you're gonna get.

701
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that makes complete sense.

702
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: In all of the years you've been there, now, has

703
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: there ever been a point where either like a you

704
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: were like fearful, like you thought that something there could

705
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: potentially harm you, or be you were just ready to

706
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: just give it all up and just leave and just

707
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: call it and like this is it. I can't do

708
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: this anymore.

709
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: As far as I'm giving it up and walking away.

710
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: I never felt that point where I really wanted to

711
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: give it up. I might want to give up a

712
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: lot of other things that are being on at the

713
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: time in my life that I'm really fed up with.

714
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: But this building and the spirits really keep me going.

715
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't for them, honestly, yeah, if

716
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't for them, yeah, I wouldn't be here because

717
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: it's a ridiculous lifestyle. Really, it's a ridiculous lifestyle. But

718
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: they really do keep me going. As far as being scared,

719
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been one or two incidences where you

720
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: felt the energy is really off and I don't want

721
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: to be here. But in their defense and in my perspective,

722
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: I have so many thousands of people that come here

723
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: every year that you don't know who's being who's got

724
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: an attachment, who's bringing other spirits with them, And so

725
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: usually if any of those times have happened where it's

726
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: been something's not right, it's usually because there's somebody else

727
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: that's in the building that has not doesn't really belong

728
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: in the building.

729
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, I you know, like I and

730
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: also just living people in general, regardless of if they

731
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: have a ghost with them, they're scarier.

732
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: That's probably say you know, people say you're ever afraid

733
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, only want to open up the front door

734
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: to let you guys.

735
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: In exactly, Like who's coming in now?

736
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a spirit does never lie to be

737
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: cheated on me, broken, my heart is stole from me.

738
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's very true. I'm going to adopt that. You

739
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: please do.

740
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: Now, what is your like, what is your in your

741
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: perfect world? What do you see the asylum becoming? Or

742
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: what is your like endgame here?

743
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Well, you know, I would need to

744
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: win a lottery to have an endgame because it's just

745
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: too much work to be had. I mean it's sixty

746
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: thousand square feet and needs a lot of roof work still.

747
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: I mean I've been chipping away at it here and there,

748
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: but I mean, really it needs a lot of work.

749
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: The windows, all the windows. There's probably I'm going to

750
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: guess over one hundred and fifty windows maybe are you

751
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: know a lot of the windows, especially in the nineteen

752
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: thirty eight So I mean there's no installation. The building

753
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: was built is bricks and a black sand plaster cement,

754
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: so I mean there's no insallation in the building. I

755
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: mean it's just to really try to say, oh yeah,

756
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: I want to do this to it is really unrealistic.

757
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: I mean I would if I if someone wants to,

758
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: you know, be my benefactor, let's bring it back. Let's

759
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: make it look like I mean, trans Alagany has done

760
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: some phenomenal things to you know, one of their main buildings.

761
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: I would love it to look like that. Have their

762
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: museum that they have, you know, with all their plants,

763
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: you know, the different floor plans on the wall, and

764
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: all the different pockets of the different erarors and things.

765
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: I think what they've done is phenomenal. I don't have

766
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: the money nor the manpower to even open up one

767
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: one room museum room, which I wish I had. I

768
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: have stuff ready to go, but to set it up

769
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: and get everything going and get everything on the walls,

770
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: and I just don't have it. So I'm kind of

771
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: my hands are tired. I put off more than I

772
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: could chew. And that's the fact. And you know, but

773
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: I also thought I was going to have a husband

774
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: that was going to be working a full time job,

775
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: and instead, you know, this is it. And everything that

776
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: goes comes in goes right back out. So it's hard

777
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: to get ahead of the situation. I am working on

778
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: getting on the national Historical Register. I've been doing that

779
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: for about a year. By yeah, I'm working with the

780
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: Landmarks Society and they've been doing all the research that

781
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: needs to be submitted to the state. But that's a

782
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: thirteen thousand dollars research project that I'm paying for and

783
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: then you have to wait. By the time they submit

784
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: it to the state, it could be six months to

785
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: a year to get the designation. And all that really

786
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: does is give you a designation. I don't really get

787
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: tax credits. I thought I would, but at least in

788
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: New York for me to get tax credits, I would

789
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: have to put in the same amount of money the

790
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: property is valued in one year for repairs to get

791
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: tax Well, if I had the money, I do the work.

792
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: Now, man, exactly exactly.

793
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: But you know, at least you know it's good to

794
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: have that designation. And that's my next thing. I mean,

795
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: I've had two historical markers already honored, you know, bestowed

796
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: upon us. One for the opening of the Poorhouse and

797
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: one is also in congestion with the Folklore Society with

798
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: the William G. Palmery Foundation and validates the paranormal activity here.

799
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: So I already had two markers donated, So I'm trying

800
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: to just get the big one done. But you know,

801
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing what I can do, and you know, it

802
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: is what it is. I chip away every every day,

803
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: and I don't know.

804
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I bless you because I mean quite literally,

805
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, even though it's not doing, it's not done,

806
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: or it's not perfect, you know, the spirits and the

807
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: ghosts are literally keeping that place standing along with you, you know.

808
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: And and I think that's that's a valuable kind of

809
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: historical lesson for us paranormal peeps, is that sometimes what

810
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: we do is all as all a place has, and

811
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: so I do really I or what you're doing now,

812
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: if people want to help, or people want to come visit,

813
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: or people want to tour or ghost time, what do

814
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: they need to do?

815
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: They can just go to the website Rolling Hills Asylum

816
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: dot com. You on the front page, there's usually some

817
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: special events listed. You can click on the calendar, which

818
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: is not up to date right now because it is winter.

819
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: So I'm adding more stuff. I have stuff up through

820
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: March or April, I guess through April, and I'll be

821
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: adding more the summer stuff over the next couple of

822
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: weeks as we have more special events in the regular

823
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: calendar up. There's a go fund me link on there

824
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: for our roofs. I would really love it if you

825
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: can spare the cost of a Starbucks, that would be fabulous.

826
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: I work with a great roof for actually at a

827
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 3: Whister mask.

828
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh nice.

829
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: We're trying to fix a big section that is on

830
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: the east wing. It covers the kitchen and the old

831
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: staff and inmates dining room, which those two areas. The

832
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: kitchen still open, but the inmate dining room and the

833
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: staff dining room have been closed since I bought the place.

834
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: People may remember them from Ghost Adventures as being the

835
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: old Christmas Tree room. But that whole section of the

836
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: roof is not doing well and so I really need

837
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: to get that done asap. But it's you know, it

838
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: is a huge undertaking.

839
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: It is truly a labor of love. So I commend you.

840
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: I can't believe I haven't visited, to be honest, so

841
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: I love for you to come.

842
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: I ad time open door policy.

843
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely need to get out there so well.

844
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: It was lovely catching up. I wish you the best

845
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: of luck with everything. I love what you're doing. I

846
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: love how haunted that place is, and I know that

847
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason, and so I think it's

848
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: going to all come around in some magical way. And

849
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: I really do commend you for sticking with it for

850
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: so long.

851
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it, and you know, it's really fun

852
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: for me, not only you know, to have these experiences

853
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: with the spirits, meeting everybody you know in the paranormal field.

854
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: But my biggest joy really is so many people that

855
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: just are curious about the history, are curious about the paranormal.

856
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: I haven't really dabbled in it. That's a big part

857
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: of my visitors are people that are just like, like

858
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: I say, newbies, and have them experience something for the

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Speaker 3: first time is so cool. You know, it really opens

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Speaker 3: up their mind to really what is happening on the

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Speaker 3: other side. And you know, when we pass on, none

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Speaker 3: of us really know. We're not going to know till

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Speaker 3: we get there. But it really it's just that is

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Speaker 3: the biggest joy is dealing with the new people. I

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Speaker 3: really really love it when I can, you know, share

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Speaker 3: a little bit what I experience with other people.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, it's a special place and I really do

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Sharon. Hopefully we'll connect soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Amy, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Since eighteen twenty seven, Rolling Hill's Asylum has represented a contradiction.

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Speaker 1: On paper, it was supposed to give employment in housing

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Speaker 1: opportunities to people who didn't have many other options. In practice,

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Speaker 1: it was overcrowded and unhygienic. Today it still houses those

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Speaker 1: with nowhere else to go, but now it's only residents

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Speaker 1: are the restless spirits of the dead. It's unclear why

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Speaker 1: these ghosts remain in Rolling Hills, but it has been

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Speaker 1: speculated that they're lingering in the only home they've ever known.

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Speaker 1: Others believe they're unable to move past their traumatic experiences

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Speaker 1: from their time in the asylum. Whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 1: I only hope that time will bring them peace. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy brune and this was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm and Miles from Air

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Speaker 1: and Minky. Haunted Road is hosted and written by me

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Speaker 1: Amy Bruney, with additional research by Cassandra de Alba. This

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Speaker 1: show is edited and produced by supervising producer Rima el Kali,

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Speaker 1: with executive producers Aaron Menke Trevor Young, and Matt Frederick.

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Speaker 1: Learn more about this show over at Grimandmild dot com,

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