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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Official Jet Podcast. We were Concentifi

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Speaker 1: Win back beating a tea sports but together win fat,

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Speaker 1: Eric Ellen and lej dousa bowl Duce. How was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: It was good? You know. They just played on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't have, you know, a show earlier the

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Speaker 1: week I actually did we we did not out a show.

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Speaker 1: But it's been good. You know. I was able to

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Speaker 1: go back home for the first time in three months

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Speaker 1: in Florida for just about you know, two days, just

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Speaker 1: to check on the house, make sure everything was good.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like I brought the cold

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Speaker 1: weather with me to Florida. Was in the sixties, and dudes,

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Speaker 1: you complaining about the sixties and Florida. Yes, I'm complaining

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Speaker 1: about the sixties because like I left the code to

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Speaker 1: get away from the colde not to enjoy more code

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Speaker 1: when I got to Florida. But oh no, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good little you know, reset button, A

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Speaker 1: nice little weekend to get away. Beautiful here this week

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Speaker 1: and I'll have to see what the forecast is for

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Speaker 1: the Jets bills one o'clock at MetLife Stadium. As we

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Speaker 1: sit here, it is Tuesday morning, about ten am. All

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Speaker 1: we know is both Mike White and Zack Wilson are

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Speaker 1: expected back at practice. Zack Wilson will only play once

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Speaker 1: he is a hundred percent Do you think Mike White

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Speaker 1: is in a line to make his third consecutive start. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems like it's trending for Mike White to get

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Speaker 1: his third consecutive start, and I agree with that. I

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Speaker 1: believe unless Zack Wilson is a hundred percent healthy, and

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Speaker 1: people tend to forget this was supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: two to four week injury. I think he's only in

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Speaker 1: week three right now, but hasn't practiced yet, So you

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Speaker 1: don't want to roll a guy out there coming off

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Speaker 1: for knee injury without only a few days of practice.

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Speaker 1: So unless he's a hundred percent healthy, I don't believe

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Speaker 1: you put Zack Wilson out there because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: evaluate somebody until they're a hundred percent healthy. So I

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Speaker 1: believe Mike White will start this week. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: you know Zach Ellen will dress or will it be

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is the backup or Josh Johnson, who showed

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Speaker 1: really well first to Coats in this past Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: But I believe Mike White deserves a chance to start,

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Speaker 1: and because Zack Wilson isn't a hundred percent healthy yet,

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't start until he is all right. The beauty

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Speaker 1: of this podcast and the reason you should subscribe Rate

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Speaker 1: in Review is we bridge the previous week to this

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Speaker 1: week and we get you ready for the upcoming ball game.

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Speaker 1: And of course that is the Jets and the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and last week was the Jets and the Colts. Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of Mike White going out early

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Speaker 1: in that ball game because he was so he looked

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Speaker 1: well on his way to an other big performance because

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Speaker 1: he had thrown for nearly close to that first quarter

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Speaker 1: and yeah, just in two drives almost those for a

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Speaker 1: hundred yards answers the score from the coast to get

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Speaker 1: it to seven to seven. And he just felt for

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Speaker 1: the kid. You saw his expression on TV on on

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Speaker 1: He kind of did like the home alone thing when

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Speaker 1: he put his hand over his head, like what is

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Speaker 1: been in that position right where you feel like this

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Speaker 1: is your time to sign it. It happened to me

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Speaker 1: told my pet so I was done for the year.

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Speaker 1: And it happened on the first third down of the

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Speaker 1: third preseason game. For people that don't know, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the dress rehearsal game for the season. So

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Speaker 1: I was sacking the quarterback and tore my pick, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, why me? So I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: fel felt for you know, Mike White at the time,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like he was all right by the

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Speaker 1: So he still has another opportunity to go out there

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Speaker 1: and put out good film. I'm not saying that Judge

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Speaker 1: would have beat the Colts, but how much, how much?

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Speaker 1: How much to change the rhythm of the game when

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Speaker 1: the guy who had taken first team rops all week,

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Speaker 1: who's obviously in a flow and plane so wild distributing

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Speaker 1: got it going, but it took him a little bite.

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Speaker 1: Well also, right, the team believes in him, so that's

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Speaker 1: another thing. So when like your leader at the time

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Speaker 1: And we see how we saw how Mike White united

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Speaker 1: two series, You're like, dang, like what next? How many

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Speaker 1: more injuries do we the Jets are gonna sustain throughout

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Speaker 1: the season. But you know, you're professional. You have to

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Speaker 1: bounce back and play well. And I thought, like you said,

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Speaker 1: that's big time football. When you know, he didn't get

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Speaker 1: a short week, so that's compounded with that right, you're

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Speaker 1: not only then getting the rest's a short shorter time

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Speaker 1: Griff is going to stop by the podcast here momentarily.

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Speaker 1: So as we look ahead, Zack Wilson his number one

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Speaker 1: receiver all along with Corey Davis. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: say Wilson would get locked in on Corey Davis a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much. Isn't it interesting how everything has

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Speaker 1: changed now because you've seen different quarterbacks in the ball

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Speaker 1: distribution is going all over the place, and Corey Davis

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Speaker 1: is gonna add to this offense. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 1: but it's very ironic that the offense took off without

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Speaker 1: It's because both quarterbacks that have come in have executed

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Speaker 1: it's all about the quarterback being efficient with the ball,

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Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks are not locking into anybody. They're just

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Speaker 1: the REGOs, that's where they throw the football. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: And we saw a lot of this Thursday night versus

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Speaker 1: he has to make an aggressive cutback right away. And

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Speaker 1: Like the end has to set the edge. The front

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Speaker 1: is a big guy ranging and Youmtchine Milan on his athleticism.

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Speaker 1: What do they do to put pressure on you in

433
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Speaker 1: those third and long situations because it seems like if

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Speaker 1: you're in third along against U third six plus, you're

435
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Speaker 1: not gonna convert. What do they do there? Well, like

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Speaker 1: I said a lot of times that they'll they'll show

437
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Speaker 1: five or six guys at the line of scrimmage, like

438
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Speaker 1: as if they're blitzing, and sometimes they'll back up out

439
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: of that, so like you'll think you're having man coverage,

440
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Speaker 1: but then you actually get a free dropper like Tremaine

441
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Speaker 1: Edmunds or Matt Milano that shows that void in the

442
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Speaker 1: middle of field, so where you think you got a

443
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Speaker 1: quick slant for five or six yards, it's not there.

444
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 1: Or or in two men, they'll drop one of their

445
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: safeties over the slot receiver and it happens at the snap,

446
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 1: so you're thinking, man, it's too high safety. But then

447
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 1: it essentially becomes cover one with a free dropper, So

448
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: you just have to be cognizant that. And then with

449
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: their rotation on the line, they've been able to get

450
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Speaker 1: after the quarterback down. They don't have crazy gutty sack numbers,

451
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Speaker 1: but they have fresh guys throughout the whole game. Literally,

452
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Speaker 1: guys take three or four reps and they're coming out

453
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: and the next guy's coming in. They literally wrote it.

454
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything like it before. They literally legitimately

455
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: rotate nine guys on the line throughout the game. The

456
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: Jets are moving to football, uh, doing a lot of

457
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Speaker 1: good things offensively. Michael Fleur has moved upstairs and what

458
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: is he seeing differently? Obviously needed more place now the

459
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 1: Jets are getting more plays, but he just seems like

460
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: he's in a very much in a rhythm, in a groove,

461
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Speaker 1: and he talks about the players playing freely. Yeah, I

462
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: think it's one right, they've had more plays. It's hard

463
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Speaker 1: to really get into your and we've talked about this before,

464
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Speaker 1: get into your scripted first fifteen when you're three and out,

465
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Speaker 1: three and out and now you're down fourteen, nothing like

466
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Speaker 1: you kind of throw that that script of fifteen out

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Speaker 1: the window. But when you're you know, driving the ball,

468
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Speaker 1: and you essentially get through your first fifth team in

469
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: the first drive or second drive, then you feel more

470
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: in tune to the game, getting the rhythm, you know,

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00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: where the throw I mean that call. I believe it

472
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: was third and fifteen. What was the throwback screen when

473
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson came in the game for them to get

474
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: the first Like that was an amazing play call. Like

475
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Speaker 1: Michael Laflour was in a rhythm when he called that,

476
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Speaker 1: Like this dude has been in the rhythm the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and it's possibly because he can see the

478
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Speaker 1: whole field now now that he's up in the box

479
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: see what teams are doing. When you're downstairs, you have

480
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Speaker 1: to kind of rely on somebody else to give you

481
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Speaker 1: that information. But now when you're the play caller and

482
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Speaker 1: you can see how the rhythm of the defensive cordina

483
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: and how he's calling the game, you can kind of

484
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Speaker 1: combat that because you see what personnel he's putting out

485
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: there compared to what you're putting out there, and you

486
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: know what type of coverages he likes in certain downs

487
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Speaker 1: in certain situations. So I think that has a lot

488
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Speaker 1: to do with it, Michael Lafleur being upstairs, being able

489
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Speaker 1: to see the whole field, and then just him being

490
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Speaker 1: in the rhythm because they've actually had the plays where

491
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: he's gotten into rhythm instead of just going three and out.

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Speaker 1: They've had even last week, I believe they got what

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Speaker 1: two first downs and had to plant it and then

494
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Speaker 1: the next you know, time to office him. Now they

495
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: drove the ball down the fielding So you're talking about

496
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Speaker 1: the first trouteam already gone. So like now I'm in

497
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: the rhythm. I feel what the defense is doing to me.

498
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: I can combat that and I know what to call.

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Speaker 1: And do you think this is a positive dynamic that Okay,

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00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: you got the rookie quarterback and now you have this

501
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Speaker 1: kid and Mike White, a former fifth round pick of

502
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys a couple of years ago, is coming.

503
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Speaker 1: He's played. Well, you're gonna have an opportunity again. You

504
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: never could have enough good car. But is your mind

505
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: starts to wander when you watch White? What do you

506
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: think he can be calm? We don't know. And the

507
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: thing is, because it's still so early in his career.

508
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Speaker 1: This is the first time he started. Could he potentially

509
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Speaker 1: be a Tony Romo? Could he be a Kurt Warner?

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know until until we see it.

511
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Speaker 1: But this is a good problem to have, not only

512
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Speaker 1: because you know, competition brings out the best in players,

513
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Speaker 1: or it should bring out the best and players, but

514
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Speaker 1: as far as like just you know, talking about the

515
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Speaker 1: GM and upstairs talking about having trade pieces potentially for

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Speaker 1: either one of these quarterbacks down the road, Like if

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Speaker 1: Mike White continues to play like this, trust me, the

518
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: league is a notice they're watching. So if somebody wants

519
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, potentially the Carolina Panthers in the future or

520
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: uh well, I was gonna say to dinner, Broncos. But

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00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, Teddy Bridgewater played really well Sunday versus Dallas. Guy,

522
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Speaker 1: Like that's a trade piece that you know, the Jets

523
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: always have in their back pocket where they could trade

524
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Speaker 1: one of those two quarterbacks and get helped back, especially

525
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Speaker 1: if they feel like they've locked into one of the

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Speaker 1: two guys being the guy for the future. If you're

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Speaker 1: Robert Saloon Joe Douglas, so you just playing this week

528
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Speaker 1: by week right now, quarterbacks, I mean I feel you

529
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Speaker 1: have to. But it's also a scary situation if you're

530
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Speaker 1: a gym and head coach, right because says Zach comes

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Speaker 1: out if they do play this week, which I holly doubt.

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Speaker 1: I believe Mike White will start and he doesn't play

533
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Speaker 1: well right away, and you know how the Jet crowd is,

534
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: you know how New York Is like, people are gonna

535
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Speaker 1: start screaming Mike White, and that's a lot for a

536
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback to deal with. So trust me, I believe

537
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: that Joe Douglas and Roberts All I have thought about

538
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: that situation and they know I wouldn't be surprised if

539
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: Zach got his first start on the road, just in

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Speaker 1: case something like that happens. I'm not saying they're gonna

541
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Speaker 1: hold him out because if he's a hundred percent healthy,

542
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: no matter if you're home or away, you have to

543
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Speaker 1: put Zack Wilson back in the game because this is

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Speaker 1: the guy you invested the number two of our pick,

545
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Speaker 1: not just uh first round pick, the number two overall

546
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Speaker 1: pick you invested in. So you have to evaluate this

547
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Speaker 1: guy's Yes, you have to evaluate everybody else on the roster,

548
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: but if this guy is supposed to be the franchise

549
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: of your team, then you have to get him out

550
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: there and evaluate him. You do. But if White comes

551
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Speaker 1: out this week, I know I'm dealing in the hypotheses.

552
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Speaker 1: There a chance we have to we have to speak

553
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Speaker 1: to the fans, but it's on the mind that if

554
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Speaker 1: he comes out and plays well this week and then

555
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: Wilson does get to that mark where he's ready, he's

556
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Speaker 1: ready to go. Because here's your next couple opponents. The

557
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Jets obviously got a big one against the Bills, and

558
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Speaker 1: you know the Jets of play while at home. We're

559
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Speaker 1: gonna get to that here in second. But then they

560
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Speaker 1: host Miami Dolphins and that team is one in seven

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Speaker 1: right now. And then you play the Houston Texans, who

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Speaker 1: arguably I think that two and seven right because they

563
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Speaker 1: just want something that's right, good point. But then you

564
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Speaker 1: have the Houston Texans, who are arguably one of the

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Speaker 1: worst teams right now. So the funny thing is, we

566
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Speaker 1: talked about this on the Robert Salis Show that the

567
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Jets seem to play better when the competition is better.

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Speaker 1: Like give us all the top division teams, like, yeah,

569
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Speaker 1: so we got one this week first the Buffalo Bills. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's always been a weird thing where like the Jets

571
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Speaker 1: when they're expected to win, that's when stuff kind of

572
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: fall because a lot of people actually picked the Jets

573
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Speaker 1: and win versus Colts on Thursday night. Um, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to take it a week by

575
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Speaker 1: week unless Za is healthy and only the training staff

576
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Speaker 1: and the head coach and Zack know that you don't

577
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Speaker 1: put him out there, like there's no reason to put

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Speaker 1: him out there until he's a healthy because you can't

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00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: properly evaluate him until he's a hundred percent healthy. So

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Speaker 1: I don't see anyway that Mike White doesn't start this week,

581
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Speaker 1: but we'll see going forward because both the GM and

582
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: the head coach have kind of said there's a premium

583
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Speaker 1: of winning and we're gonna take this week by week.

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Speaker 1: So I just said, it's just a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a fickle situation to being if you're a g M,

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Speaker 1: a head coach. If Mike White goes out and throws

587
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Speaker 1: for another three bills, win and then you put Zack

588
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Speaker 1: in the next week any struggles coming right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate, which he probably would because he would not

590
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: have played in three or four weeks. Um, the fans

591
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Speaker 1: an off air. How good did it feel to get

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine? Oh man, it felt it felt good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping it was gonna come in a win,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I'll take it right now. Just trying to

616
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Speaker 1: get more involved in the in the offense. And Josh

617
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: put a good ball on me, and you know, Luckily

618
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Speaker 1: we could convert that one, but still came out with

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Speaker 1: a loss. So looking forward to to building on the momentum. Yeah,

620
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Speaker 1: talking about Josh Johnson and Mike why whatever you've seen

621
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Speaker 1: from these two quarterbacks in the last two weeks, because

622
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Speaker 1: and then being able to move the ball up and

624
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Speaker 1: down the field. Yeah, I see two guys who are

625
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Speaker 1: confident in their in their coaching, what they've they've been

626
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: taught to to see on the field, and these guys

627
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: are going through their progressions and reads like veteran quarterbacks

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00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: like they are. Um, you know, just because Mike didn't

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Speaker 1: get any you know, game time per se, He's still

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Speaker 1: And I just have a whole lot of confidence in

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Speaker 1: both those guys to get the job done. Griff, that

633
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: was quite a rope from Josh, wasn't it. It seemed

634
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: to get on you in a hurry. Yeah. That thing

635
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: was steaming down the hash and those are the type

636
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: of throws you've gotta make too, down the red zone

637
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: with things that are compressed and defenders are on me

638
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot quicker than usual. In the in the open field. So,

639
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: like I said, Josh just going through his reads and

640
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: putting the ball where it should be going. And uh,

641
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, we were rolling there for a little bit. Yeah, Griff,

642
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: talking about the Bills coming up this week, what have

643
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: you seen on film against you know, the Buffalo Bills

644
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Speaker 1: who come in as a highly touted defense. One of

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Speaker 1: the things you think you guys need to do on

646
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: offense to continue to have the success that you've had

647
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I definitely gotta set up this

648
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: run game. We gotta get the run game going. Uh.

649
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, MC is doing a great job, you know,

650
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: hit in the whole. We just gotta stick with the

651
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: run a little bit more, get a little bit more

652
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: balanced attack oning and you know, like I said, just

653
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks just taking what's there, you know, and then

654
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: hopefully the big shots will open up later. But I

655
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of conferences offense moving forward, and uh,

656
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, you can definitely get this win against the Bills.

657
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: What's Mike White like behind the scenes. He seems like

658
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: such a cool customer, There's no doubt about that. And

659
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: he played so well in the first NFL start in

660
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: relief against the Patriots, and then we uh, dudes and

661
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: I were talking about what might have been if he

662
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: had stayed in that game against the Colts. Yeah, suh,

663
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: he's like you said, he's cool out there in the huddle. Man. Nothing,

664
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: he's very poise. Nothing can face him. Uh. And like

665
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: I said, just because it was his first, you know game,

666
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: he's been in preseason games. You know, he's been in

667
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: intense practices. H you know, he's made great throws under Durest.

668
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: So this guy's seeing it all and you know the

669
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: fans are the media might not see it because it's

670
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: not on Sundays. Uh. This guy has been through some

671
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: serious reps and he's ready, you know, and he's ready

672
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: to show you know, the world where he's got. Hey,

673
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: g if you talked about really establishing the run first

674
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, what part do you and the tight

675
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: ends play in that role? Because we know a lot

676
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: of times you guys like to roll out in twelve personnel,

677
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, run the zone, run the split zone. How

678
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: can you guys really help and making sure that you're

679
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: effective with the run game. Uh. I take a lot

680
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: of pride in in the tight end room being you know,

681
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. In terms of the run game, Uh,

682
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: coach la Flour does a great job moving us around,

683
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: getting us in different spots, especially with Trayvon uh kind

684
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: of being that fullback role. Uh. You know, we're outside,

685
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: we're in the backfields, we're in protection. We can do

686
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: it all, you know, in terms of running game, just uh,

687
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, hitting our landmarks and jumping off the ball

688
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: with these old lineen Uh. You know, it's a lot

689
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: of fun when we get rolling, to be honest, with

690
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: these backs, hitting the whole as hard as it can

691
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: with Tie and and my m C and uh, you know,

692
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get t cold back to We're

693
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be rolling. When you heard La

694
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Fleur was going back upstairs to the box, what was

695
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: your initial reaction. Yeah, I've seen people make a big

696
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: deal out of this, But you know how I'm on

697
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: the field, you know what I mean, I'm I'm trying

698
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: to perform the play that's called, whether he's on the

699
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: sideline or upstairs. Even when he was on the sideline,

700
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was in his ear. You know,

701
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my coach, Ron Middleton, So I don't

702
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: really get a whole lot of exposure with him. But

703
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for if you can see the

704
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: feel better than sure to stay upstairs and I'll see

705
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: you after the game. After the win. Let's talk about this.

706
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: This safety tandem for the Buffalo Bills is probably one

707
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: of the better safety tandems in the NFL. What what

708
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of issues do they present for an offense when

709
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: you talk about you know, Michael Hyde and Jordan Poy Yeah,

710
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: two young, uh really outstanding safeties who uh, you know,

711
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: have have seen a lot of ball as well. They've

712
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: seen all the route combinations and uh they're eager and

713
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: excited to fill in the wrong game as well. You

714
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: don't really get to see that very often, but these

715
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: two have played in the same system. It's got to

716
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: be going on three or four years now. You can

717
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: tell they're getting very comfortable. Uh. You know, they're doing

718
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: a great job getting at the ball as well, Uh,

719
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: trying to punch that ball out and high point in

720
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: it like receivers in the in the past game. So, uh,

721
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough matchup for us this week

722
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: as usual. You know, it's you can't get get a break,

723
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, in this league, but especially these two, uh

724
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: playing at a high level. What do you make of

725
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: your young team and how well they've played at home

726
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: so far too and one and and those wins have

727
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: come against good teams, the Tennessee Titans, perhaps the best

728
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: team in the NFC, and then Cincinnati Bengals, and then

729
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: you guys have struggling on the road, still looking for

730
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: that first victory away from home. Yeah, I think, uh,

731
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, we are a young team and uh so

732
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: guys are still trying to get comfortable. Um and I

733
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: think at home with our fans, and if we get

734
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: out to a hot start, these fans really make a difference,

735
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, coming into uh, you know, after halftime, especially

736
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee game, I could tell there's some communication errors,

737
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: you know with the Titans in the second half, and

738
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: that that's new to the fans. These fans, you know,

739
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: they missed out last year, and uh, I can tell

740
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: they're happy to be back and we're happy to have

741
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: them back. Yeah, talking about hot starts, how do you

742
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: guys continue to start fast as you've had the last

743
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: two weeks, you know, verse the Cincinnati Bengals and then

744
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: also you know this last Thursday game versus the Colts.

745
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: How do you guys continue to continue to start fast?

746
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: As we knew that was a struggle in the beginning

747
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: of the year, in the first couple of weeks. Yeah,

748
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, Uh, we're a young teams. So these

749
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: guys are getting the message. I think Coach Slid and

750
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Coach la Floora have really been trying to hammer that home.

751
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, we know what to expect the first drive,

752
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, just go out there and execute, you know.

753
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: And uh, while we are young, these guys are you know,

754
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: they're getting their stripes, they're getting their pelts pretty early

755
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: on here. So these guys making plays, and uh you

756
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: love to see you guys getting better week to week.

757
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's what we're doing. And hopefully

758
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: we can you know, taking it to this next week

759
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: at home against a you know, a divisual opponent. It's

760
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna be very important for us to get off to

761
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: a hard start. What's a solid lead meeting Like Ryan Ah,

762
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: he keeps it interesting. You know, some of the some

763
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: of these coaches I've had, you know, you kind of

764
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: know what to expect. But coach Salah, he can come

765
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: up with some film from practice the game, other games

766
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: we haven't been watched before. He's got the basketball hoop

767
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: in the team meeting room just in case, you know,

768
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: we got to decide something on to shoot out. You know,

769
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: there's some stories that might not even have to do

770
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: with football. Uh. Coach Slid, he's just he's got great energy. Um,

771
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: he's got great messaging and uh, you know, he's got

772
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: these young guys playing well. And uh, you know, I'm

773
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: so excited to be here and be a part of it.

774
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: Have you been involved in any of those shootouts? And

775
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: how have you done? No? No, no, no. Luckily he

776
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: kind of he keeps it to like rookies or coaches. Uh,

777
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: so I've avoided the embarrassment of putting up an airball,

778
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: unlike some of these other guys. They're trump shots, pretty broke.

779
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: You get to figure that out real quick. But now

780
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: it's fun just even watching this shoot out. It's like

781
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: a knockout style thirty seconds, try to hit as many

782
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: three pointers as you can. So it's it's a lot

783
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: of fun, a lot of laughs. Uh. But at the

784
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's competition too. You know, these

785
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: guys getting after each other in every facet of the game.

786
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun and I'm happy coach

787
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Silo brought the best of a hoop into the team

788
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: meeting room. Well, I actually played for him in two

789
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: seventeen and something that he was notorious for was like

790
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: brain teasers. Do you guys do any of that in

791
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the team meeting room where you break up into groups

792
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: and it's like tight ends versus the O line and

793
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: tight ends versus the running backs. As far as like

794
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: a question on like a little riddle on the on

795
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: the screen or anything like that. Yeah, exactly, It's it's

796
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: more like riddles, right, So yeah, yeah, that's with some yeah,

797
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: some prayin teaser. Isn't like if this is true? This

798
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: was It's like I'm studying for the S A T

799
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: S again sometimes. But it's a whole lot of fun

800
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: and that again he keeps it fresh. You know, there's

801
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: something to be said. This season gets long, and especially

802
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: when you're you know you're losing, sometimes it's hard to

803
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: see the light. But uh, the energy has just been

804
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: great this whole season, and again, I can't wait to

805
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: get back out there and play at a high level again.

806
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: So Salo probably an a student logic that I assume.

807
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, he's got to constroke himself. I've

808
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: been involved in a couple of shootouts with him before

809
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: we take for our television segment, and he's a big

810
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: guy and that ball comes off his hands. Move. Yeah. Yeah,

811
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to see him in the post, that's

812
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: for sure. YEA. Yeah. Hey, let me ask you about

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: the development of rookie tight end Kenny Yoboa. Obviously coming

814
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: out of Mississippi, Elijah Moore's teammate. He had a big

815
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles. What's he been like

816
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: and how have you tried to help him because you've

817
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: been through this for a number of years. Yeah, Kenny's

818
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: been great. I'll just say he's he's gonna be a,

819
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, a great player in this league. You know,

820
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: he's learning the ropes right now. But uh, that might

821
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: come to an end here quickly with the t K out.

822
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with him. But in the meeting room,

823
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's he pays attention very well, asked

824
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: all the right questions, UM, and then when he gets

825
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: on the field, you can see exactly the potential that

826
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: he has. UM. Really excited for the future that he

827
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: has here with the Jets, and uh, I'm excited to

828
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: see him, you know on Sundays as well. Put put

829
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: all that potential out there and show the world's got

830
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: if you talked about, you know, trying and ready to

831
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: be back on the field, because you know, guys played

832
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: on the Thursday, so to be ten days since you play,

833
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: what is the energy like in the locker room. Is

834
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: everybody just you know, fighting out the bid to get

835
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: back on the field, especially coming off a loss in

836
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: it being the whole ten days before you played again. Yeah,

837
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: for sure, the guys are definitely getting healthy. So those

838
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: are these Thursday night games, Uh, to take a toll

839
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: on your body. And while we're young. I think I

840
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: saw a lot of guys in here this with this

841
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: past week and geting treatment and trying to get their

842
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: bodies back, you know for this big divisional game. We're

843
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: we're excited to get back out there. Like I said,

844
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, especially offensively, I felt like we just ran

845
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: out of time at the end there, but excited to

846
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: get back on the field. Even tomorrow. You know, we've

847
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: got a big practice tomorrow and take it day by day.

848
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: But I know the teams are gonna be ready to

849
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: go on Sunday. Lastly, we've asked you about Mike White.

850
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Zach Wilson. How do

851
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: you think he's handled all the pressure that comes with

852
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: being the number two overall selection unfortunately goes down with

853
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: the knee injury. Uh. It seems to have a lot

854
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: of positivity about him. Yeah, that's just who he is.

855
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a real positive guy. And uh, you know,

856
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,640
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858
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859
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600
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860
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,640
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861
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,520
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00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,680
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Speaker 1: We gotta ask you though, since you got in the

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00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,279
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904
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160
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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,239
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00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,799
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00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,320
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00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279
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00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,120
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910
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,400
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911
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719
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912
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,920
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914
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,240
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915
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,720
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916
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
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917
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: the other day. He's like, being a backup is harder

918
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
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00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,440
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920
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: but you know that's your job, unless you're in New

921
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
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00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,440
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923
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,719
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00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,480
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925
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,040
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926
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,120
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927
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to play at a high level when you get in

928
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: the game, no matter how many first team reps you

929
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: got that week. Like, so I understand why he put that,

930
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: and we've seen this year how some of these backups

931
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: have been prepared and ready, you know when when they've

932
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: been called upon and they've actually executed. So, you know,

933
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: kudos to the backup quarterbacks. Just want to give a

934
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: shout out to them. How about Dad from my old

935
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,960
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936
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,760
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937
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers still the team to beat? You

938
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: never know, each week it's different, man Like, So, like,

939
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: who's the best team in the NFC. I've seent Tennessee

940
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: for a while and I think even without Derrick Henry,

941
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: the way that defense is playing now, I think this

942
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: is what Mike Vrabel envisioned. I like the way the quarterback. Yeah,

943
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: so like they were like dead last and getting to

944
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback last year. So what does he do? It

945
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: gets the Nico Attrey, to me, is the most underrated

946
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: player in the NFL, not just you know, skill, just underrated.

947
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Most underrated player in the NFL does not get enough

948
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: respect for what he does. I mean, he bawled in Oakland,

949
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: this is before they moved to Vegas. Then he bawled

950
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: with the Coats, and he bought the well the coast

951
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: of Tennessee was like, shoot, we gotta sign him from

952
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: the Coats and he's just playing at a elite level.

953
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: They you know, they got Jeffrey Simmons in the first

954
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: round and he's playing, you know, after he had the

955
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: knee injury coming out, but now you could tell that

956
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: he's finally healthy and he's playing like the Pro Bowl

957
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: caliber player that he is. Uh, you know, Budd the

958
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: pre is starting to come around from the a C

959
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: and Harold Andrew is gonna get a hundred and fifty

960
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: million dollars from I mean Jets. He's a free agent.

961
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't let him leave. They might franchise him,

962
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: but he's playing out of this world right now. So

963
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: when you're able to pressure the quarterback before, it just

964
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: makes it so much easier to kind of hide some

965
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: of the deficiencies in the secondary that they've had. Had

966
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: so many injuries in that secondary, but you would not

967
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: know it because that defensive line has literally taken over.

968
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: We're in the beginning of the year, they were struggle

969
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get to the quarterback. Now no officsive

970
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: line can stop them like that performance on Sunday Night

971
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Football was one for the ages for that defensive line

972
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: and we saw them also affect the coast the week before.

973
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: So I just think, to me, they they play with

974
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: a great physicality, take on the mindset of the coach

975
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: of the last few coaches that that coach old school,

976
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: and then they're like, toughness is gonna win you games,

977
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: like and I love that. I would love to play

978
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,920
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979
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Speaker 1: an ex players, so he's been there, so he knows

980
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: even though he came from the New England mantra, but

981
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,200
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982
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: still coaches with that grit, that fight, that hunger, and

983
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: the players have really taken on that mantra. And then

984
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, you have to say the Ravens,

985
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: which I said I was high on, would probably be

986
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: the next best team in the NFC, but literally changes

987
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: from week to week, like you never know, there might

988
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: be a team that gets into the playoffs in the

989
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: AFC at nine, nine and eight, Is that right? So

990
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to be a team even

991
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: eight nine could potentially get because every week it's like

992
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,040
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993
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: be close to once we start getting at the post exactly.

994
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: So now, like you look at the NFC and to me,

995
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996
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,320
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997
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: well the I mean the Bucks were on by but

998
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: three at the top five lost on Sunday, So like

999
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I literally had my number five team was the Tampa

1000
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Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. And yes, they had just come off the

1001
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1002
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. But I'm like, you still got time

1003
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: terrific and they proved last year they don't need home

1004
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: field advantage to win anywhere. That defense is gonna start

1005
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: getting a little bit healthier. The secondary members are starting

1006
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: to come back, so they'll be all right. And then

1007
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: at number four, I had the Arizona Cardinals and I

1008
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: was like, you know what happened to them last year,

1009
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: it seems like it's happening again this year. They were

1010
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: six and three. Then Kylin Murray started getting banged up

1011
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. They started having some injury bugs. They

1012
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: struggle stopping the run. But then with the backup quarterback

1013
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: they go to San Francisco, stopped to run, get after

1014
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback and run for like two hundred yards with

1015
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: James Carna because Edmunds, because Jase Edmonds gets hurt and

1016
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: it's't even in the game, and Connor just you know,

1017
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: it goes back into the time seeing it goes back

1018
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: to like his first year in Pittsburgh and it just

1019
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: went crazy. So I'm like, damn, are they're the best

1020
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: team now? And then at three I had Green Bay,

1021
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,080
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1022
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: They lost the game without Aaron Rodgers, so to me,

1023
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: they're still a top three or top two team in

1024
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: the NFC. Then I had the Dallas Cowboys and we

1025
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: saw what happened to them, like that deal show there

1026
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: was nowhere to be found in that offense was nowhere

1027
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: to be found. And then the number one team I

1028
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: was like, has to be the l A Rams with

1029
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: the acquisition of von Miller. Now he didn't play Sunday,

1030
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: and would that have made a big difference, you know,

1031
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe possibly, But the way the Tennessee won that game

1032
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: was their defense. It wasn't had nothing to do with

1033
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: von Miller. Like the defensive we had to pick six,

1034
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: another pick like Von Miller couldn't have changed that outcome.

1035
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: I think these teams have elite quarterbacks and sometimes they

1036
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: feel like, and we've talked about this, they gotta put

1037
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,640
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1038
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: I've never seen him playing like that. That that was baffling.

1039
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: But there's still you're not running the football like you

1040
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: used to the exactly well I mean. And the crazy

1041
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, Henderson has played really well, but

1042
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: for some reason, he was coming out and I didn't

1043
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: get this right. I get, I got you got, you

1044
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: got the franchise quarterback you always wanted. But you've won

1045
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,359
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1046
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like Henderson has been able to run the ball

1047
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: like running football. They can't out the game, ain't and

1048
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: we're going five wide like Tennessee's d line wasn't like that.

1049
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: They got welcome to the party real quick and they

1050
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: realized that, but it was too late. I got bunching

1051
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: them out mid season. Give me one. I had Colin Murray,

1052
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: but with the injury, and then also how they played

1053
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: on that Thursday night and lost to um what they

1054
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: lose to get on that it was a great lay

1055
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: package without their top three receivers, I would have to

1056
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Speaker 1: say it's lamartin nobody's like you're talking about value. There's

1057
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: nobody that's more valuable to their team than Lamar Jackson.

1058
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: Like every week, this guy finds a way even when

1059
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: the easies to play get his best. He finds a

1060
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: way to put the team on his best, struggle every

1061
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: week to win games, and he comes through every week.

1062
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: So like the disrespect has to be out the window

1063
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: now with Lamar to me, he is the front runner.

1064
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Speaker 1: He literally could win the m v P probably every

1065
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1066
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Speaker 1: for their team then Lamar Jackson and like to me,

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Speaker 1: they're probably them in Tennessee have to be the top

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Speaker 1: AFC teams And that could change in a week or so,

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Speaker 1: we don't know, but to me, and then it would

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Speaker 1: have to be probably Colin Murray after that, then a

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Speaker 1: a Ron and then Tom I love watching what from Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: But Lamar to me still Miles Garrett right now is

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Speaker 1: the front runner for Defensive Player of the Year. You

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Speaker 1: have to you have to put him as a front runner.

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Speaker 1: I mean the leaves the league in sax right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's just purely domining. Like the things he does

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Speaker 1: against the double team is ridiculous. He's not a human being,

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Speaker 1: all right, Lamar Jackson mid season MVP. You heard that

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Speaker 1: for months. We thank Ryan Griffin for joint us an

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Speaker 1: official Jets podcast. Before we get out of here, give

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Speaker 1: me an X factor on each side of the ball

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Speaker 1: for the Jets against the Bills. So against the I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go to on defense, right, it's it's got It's

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Speaker 1: a group of the defensive tackles like the Bills guards

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Speaker 1: have struggled this year, and and with Feliciano being out

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Speaker 1: with injury on I R you know, Cody Ford and

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Speaker 1: and sixty from the Bills have have really struggled. So

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at yeah, yeah, I'm looking at Quinny Williams,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sheldon Rankings and Folly. This this is your

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Speaker 1: game this week. Like, um, you guys struggled, you know

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Speaker 1: against you know, the Coats in the run game. But

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Speaker 1: this is a week where they're gonna drop back and

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Speaker 1: pass the ball. So it's it's your week to shine, like,

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Speaker 1: go get it. And then on offense, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to say it's I was going back and forth between

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Speaker 1: Corey Davis and we don't know if Tyler Croft will

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Speaker 1: be ready to go, and I know he got banged

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Speaker 1: up in the game. Yeah, I think he might be out.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not trying to lead the witness here.

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Speaker 1: But you just mentioned toe Ron Johnson possibly being hones

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Speaker 1: for the Bill. I was gonna say, Crowder or Elijah

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Speaker 1: More is gonna be big this game, being able to

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Speaker 1: attack him, but also in that cover too, just like

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Speaker 1: last week, being able to attack down the seam. So

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Speaker 1: I was maybe gonna throw Tyler crowfind But maybe it's

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Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin, who you know we just talked to, So

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Speaker 1: maybe that's I would say a combination between Crowder, More

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Speaker 1: and Griffin. I think it's gonna be fun. Though, do

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Speaker 1: you do you anticipate both teams to come out with

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Speaker 1: their hair on fire? I mean, the Bill has got

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Speaker 1: to be embarrassed they considering themselves an elite team. And

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Speaker 1: then you're looking at the Jets who had ten days

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Speaker 1: lickt their wounds after what happened in Indianapolis and their home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be hungry if you're to Jets like you've

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Speaker 1: had to steal in that loss for ten There's nothing

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Speaker 1: worse than stewing in a loss for ten days and

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Speaker 1: then realizing, man, I don't get to play football for

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Speaker 1: ten more days. I really have to eat this loss.

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Speaker 1: So they should come out with their hair on fire.

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Speaker 1: They'll be at home. The crowd of bi rockets. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like Mike White's gonna start, so

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonn be a fun atmosphere. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens on Sunday. All right, we'll have to see what

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Speaker 1: happens on Sundays. Do set. We'll see you next week

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Speaker 1: from