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Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to the Week thirteen Action Network Podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by FanDuel. I am your host, Chris Raybond, and today

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Speaker 1: we've got our NFL player projections for Week thirteen. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna run through our top five skilled position, discuss the

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Speaker 1: players we're especially high and low on this week in

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Speaker 1: our projections, and we'll throw out a player prop for

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Speaker 1: each position as well. Helping me do it as always

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Speaker 1: one of the top fantasy rancors in the game, Sean Kerner, Sean,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Hopefully you had a happy Thanksgiving and a

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Speaker 2: nice Week twelve. I had a bit of a mixed

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Speaker 2: bag you Juay Gripe on the things that went wrong,

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Speaker 2: but I'm going to focus on the positive went three

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Speaker 2: and Ozero unconvinced me, which you know, we're technically my

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Speaker 2: three favorite bets of the week. So that was fun.

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Speaker 2: But how was week twelve for you?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty I think I went one in two

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Speaker 1: and convinced me. But six and two overall, so so

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Speaker 1: or six and you know, six, two and one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had a good week. You know, still still still hot,

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Speaker 1: so I can't go play keep it up. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we got a lot to talk about for

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Speaker 1: this week because it was a it was an interesting

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Speaker 1: week twelve. So Week thirteen, I'm sure the player projections

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Speaker 1: here and the props will be quite interesting. So let's

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Speaker 1: jump right into it with a quarterback. Who are your

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Speaker 1: top five TVs for Week thirteen?

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Speaker 2: See, I got Patrick Maholmes number one, then Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, and Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I have Mahomes, Allen Hurts, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Jamar Chase is going to be back,

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Speaker 1: Josh Lamar Jackson going against that. It's not the same

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Speaker 1: that Baltimore offense is just I don't know, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's weird, like if he doesn't complete that long past

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Speaker 1: the Deshaun Jackson, his his stat lines looking really weird

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Speaker 1: last week. So yeah, he's down in my top five

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Speaker 1: for now. But who are you high on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I am high on oh Kenny Pickett. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's my QB fifteen against the Falcons. I think his

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Speaker 2: ECR is like QB twenty, and he's been he's been

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Speaker 2: tap dating into his rushing upside a lot more lately.

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Speaker 2: You know, he has thirty more rushing yards and three

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Speaker 2: of the past four games, but he's been a bit

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Speaker 2: I think it was Deontay who dropped not one, but

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Speaker 2: and you know he's going to have that high floor

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Speaker 2: due to his rushing upside. I know you've been kind

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Speaker 2: he just has too much talent around him, with you know,

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Speaker 2: So he's my QB fifth team to begin of the week.

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Speaker 2: Like I think sometimes he holds himself back a bit,

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of Trevor Lawrence last year. Once agot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's that time of year when you know

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Speaker 1: high on Trevor Lawrence him. I have him at QB

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Speaker 1: Who are you low on?

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Speaker 2: So I am low on Tua this week. He's my

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Speaker 2: I'm downgrading him to QB fourteen. I would still start him,

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Speaker 2: you just have to lower expectations. Tyrak Hill got banged

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting matchup because you know, for the Dolphin receivers,

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Speaker 1: I am low on Pirk Cousins this week, have him

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I know that that makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: But realistically he could just throw it up to Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: I guess anybody will be fine. Plus, you know the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I have Kirk closer to like QB thirteen, QB fourteen,

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be quite a week for like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is my RB one. I'm sticking to it.

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Speaker 2: But I've been begging the table for him for weeks

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Speaker 2: around on seventy percent of Bryce Perkins dropbacks. Unfortunately, a

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing is JK might return this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're I am high on Kiren as well. Love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love that. I thought I was high

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Speaker 1: It's just all volume, you know, it's all volume. But

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Speaker 2: So I'm low on Jeffrey Wilson. He's my RB twenty

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Speaker 2: the worst defense in football. So again, this is a

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00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: tougher matchup against four niner's low team total. So I

432
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: don't know how we should be ranking him, you know,

433
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: as a high end RB two, So he's all the

434
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: way down to RB twenty six for me. If Moser

435
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: is held out again this week, he might creep back

436
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: up into that mid range RB two, but you know,

437
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm tempering my expectations this week for him. And then

438
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: cam Akers RB forty one. This is you know, tied

439
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: to me being high on Tyron Williams. It's always bizarre

440
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: just seeing people thinking that cam Akers is gonna be

441
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: a thing at some point in the season. It's not

442
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: stop it. It's never gonna happen. You know, he requires

443
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: a positive game script to have value. So you know,

444
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: again he started the game last week, but they've heavily

445
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: got behind Big that's going to be the Rams the

446
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: rest of the season. So this you know, he's not

447
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: going to really have a positive game script to go

448
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: on the rest of the season. So you know, I

449
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: don't know what we're getting out of him right now.

450
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: So if you have him, please do not start him.

451
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: It's going to require you know, Stafford coming back and

452
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: Kyron to get injured at this point for Acres to

453
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: become you know, top thirty backs. So again, I am

454
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: super low on Acres as always, and pretty high in

455
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: caring Williams. So this is kind of how I'm viewing

456
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: the Rams backfield going forward.

457
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the issue with Acres is that, you know,

458
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: I think some people look at the carries or maybe

459
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: the overall touches, but he's only running a route, you know,

460
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: between eight and thirty and nineteen percent of the time.

461
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: He hasn't hit twenty percent since we what four since

462
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: we full.

463
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: The thing is when he does run a route, they

464
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: don't even target him, right, Yeah, So which is another

465
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: recipe to get an actual reception.

466
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: And then you know he's playing on the Rams, so

467
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: the touchdown odds aren't aren't there, so you're not really

468
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 1: getting receptions you know, low touchdown probabilities. So yeah, I'm

469
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: right there with you. I'm exactly at RB forty one

470
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: for cam Akers as well. I am low on sae

471
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley again this week, you know, talked about it

472
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: last week, just he just doesn't look right. You know,

473
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: ever since that shoulder injury, he's just not the same

474
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: explosive back. And now he's going against his top five

475
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Washington run defense. So he's the consensus RB nine, So

476
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 1: they have lowered him, but I'm still lower I'm at

477
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: RB thirteen against Washington, and it's just I just project

478
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: him to be pretty inefficient, you know, not much more

479
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: than four yards per carry and just a low you know,

480
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: divisional game. Wait in the year, the totals forty and

481
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: a half, the Giants are underdogs, so you know, this

482
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: is just not a great matchup. And his receiving usage

483
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: has been ticking downward pretty much ever since that shoulder injury,

484
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: but especially since to buy just just about under sixty

485
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: percent route participation when for the season, you know, his

486
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: median's closer to seventy percent, so you know, he's not

487
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: getting the receiving usage that he was earlier in the year.

488
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Tough matchup, low team total, not not really loving Saquon

489
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: this week.

490
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great call on squads to fade

491
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: him obviously, or you know, have him low that I

492
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: was driving to Thanksgiving dinner and I was trying to

493
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: catch up on my phone and I saw like the

494
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: last ten plays from the Giants and it was Gary Brightwell. Yes,

495
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: I was like, did Saquad get hurt or something ell happened? Nope,

496
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: just wanted to get bright Wall involved. So that, I mean,

497
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: that's just goes to show he's he's had such a

498
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: massive workload this year that they are trying to get

499
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: these other guys involved. They've been trying to get Britain

500
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 2: involved all year. But once they're getting bright Well evolved,

501
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's not good because Barkley does need

502
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: that massive volume to have value. So I'm with I'm

503
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: with you on that. I'm starting to to lower his

504
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: not only his just volume, but his efficiency as well.

505
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: So you know, he's still you know, borderline RB one,

506
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: but not not like the beginning of the year we

507
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: were considering him as like a top three back. Things

508
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: have changed a ton since then.

509
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's it's it's ugly. It's for Sakon and I.

510
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because when they were given all

511
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: those touches to bright Well, Saquon was on the field

512
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: as a decoy. So I just feel like, yeah, so

513
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: what's going on is like defenses are really just stacking

514
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: up to take him away, and you know we've talked

515
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: about it. The Giants passing game is getting more and

516
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: more depleted as the year goes on. You know, no

517
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Wando Robinson. You know, they lost Shepherd earlier in the year,

518
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: so it's really just defense is just loading up on

519
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: Saquon and you know they're trying to find other ways

520
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: to manufacture offense. But yeah, it's it's been tough, all right. Uh,

521
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: let's see, what do we want to do for the prop?

522
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Is Mike Michael Carter's not officially ruled out right, No,

523
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: he's day to day.

524
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know what's going to happen

525
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: when he returned.

526
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: That is a sh show and a half Donovan night

527
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: really good.

528
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: I know, I know you better not throw out a

529
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: Jets prop though, but.

530
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah no I'm not because I didn't know.

531
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you handling that? Just in general right now?

532
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: I have Knight projected over Robinson because he was active

533
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: and Robinson wasn't, and he he looked much better than

534
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: Robinson's looked all year. So I'm projecting, you know, Carter,

535
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like eighty five percent to start

536
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: the week and then uh, Knight is the RB two

537
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: and Ty Johnson kind of mixing in for his twenty

538
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: or so snaps. But yeah, I expect Knight to continue

539
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: to play over Robinson, that's for sure.

540
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that that's must That must have been

541
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: the reason why Robinson was inactive. You know, the coaching

542
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: staff just liked what they've and seeing from Night and

543
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: it showed on the field. So when everyone's healthy, I

544
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: just consider Night is basically the James Robinson roll, which means,

545
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: you know, Michael Carter doesn't have the strongest job security.

546
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: It could be Night for the rest of the season

547
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: for all we know, But right now it's just a murky,

548
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, two to even four way committee. So you know,

549
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: if Carter's back, I don't really know how this is

550
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: going to shake out.

551
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's go with Karen Williams for the prop.

552
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: Let's go total scrimmage yards or tiring. I'm gonna set

553
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: the line at fifty five and a half.

554
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: Well, I headed at fifty four. Who do you have

555
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: starting quarterback this week? Is it full Perkins or.

556
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: Do you have I have Perkins for now? Yeah, okay,

557
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: but same. I mean, the yardage doesn't really differ too much.

558
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: We all go right, I'll go over.

559
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: I'll go over then, because I think if Wolfer is

560
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: under center, I mean that is way less scrambling and

561
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: way more.

562
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Just dump off to Kyraen, Right, So yeah, I guess

563
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: it would be good for yeah, another like ten fifteen

564
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: yards a couple of yeah, yeah, so that's I mean.

565
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm one yard lower than you, but I'm just factoring

566
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: in the chances of Wolford being under center this week.

567
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: So I like the upside on this prop.

568
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I have actually having a little bit

569
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: higher than that too. I lowered it.

570
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: How many passing yards you have, Perkins? For that would

571
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: have been a fun propit quarterback, I know.

572
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: Or I thought you were gonna go Watson for sure.

573
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: No, I have that. That's for my wide receiver prop. Okay, well, preview.

574
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins, I got I met four right now.

575
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: Holy I'm about forty yards lower than you.

576
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's earlier in the week. I might

577
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: have to knock him down, but yeah, he's.

578
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Fucking Allen Robinson being out raised your passing projector yeah.

579
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, we'll jump to wide receiver top five.

580
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: So I got okay, I got Davante Adams, Yeah, Davante Adams,

581
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, c d Lamb, Stefan Diggs, and amon Ra

582
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Saint Brown.

583
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, love me some mom Ra in the top five. Yeah,

584
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: I got Adams, Hill, Jefferson, Digs, same Brown. I think

585
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: so it same top five right?

586
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh see, No, no, I have Hill number six right now.

587
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Oh wait, because I really like I need to figure

588
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: out what's going on with this injury. I just have

589
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: a slight injury adjustment right now. But if I unlock that,

590
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: he will absolutely be in my top five. And it's

591
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: it's a tougher matchup, I don't I don't think you

592
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: know it's anything he can't overcome, but a lot of

593
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: different factors why he's just barely below a Monra right now.

594
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: But I am not going to argue with you having

595
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: him in your top three, that's for sure. I see,

596
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything on his injury yet.

597
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't. I mean, yeah, I know

598
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: Wilson and most of are the guys that I'm I

599
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: haven't heard. I didn't have anything for Hill.

600
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: He again, he left the game due to the injury,

601
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: but that was mainly due to the blowout as I'm assuming.

602
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Just again, if you have Terry Hill at you're starting

603
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: him no matter what, so it doesn't matter.

604
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, who, I know.

605
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: So I am high on Zay Jones. You know, it

606
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: seems like I'm always higher than consensus on him. But

607
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: right now I have him wide receiver twenty six to

608
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: begin the week against the Lions.

609
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: Thirty nine in consensus to yeah seven thirty seven.

610
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Can you explain that to me? I really don't get it.

611
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: I don't know because I have him. I have him

612
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty So I don't think I'm higher than you.

613
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: But tell me, people, Tell the people still my thunder Wow,

614
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: tell the people. I need to bump it up. Yeah.

615
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: So he's seen a ninety seven percent route participation in

616
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: the past six games, and he has a twenty one

617
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: point two target per run rate this season, which is

618
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: actually higher than Christian kirk Uh if you could believe it.

619
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: So he's technically operating as their number one receiver. So

620
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: this is a good matchup against the lines, like I said,

621
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: and I'm projecting him for five receptions and that that

622
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: is really hard to do. So his his underlying usage

623
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: has been phenomenal, and again He's just so under the

624
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: radar right now. I just consider him, you know, a

625
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: solid high end wide receiver free and he's been there

626
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: for you know a few weeks now and again this

627
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: is a great matchup, should be a shootout. You mentioned

628
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: this is the second highest total of the week. So

629
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 2: what's not to love about Zay Jones? People start him

630
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: and for people in the Fancy Girls contest, move him

631
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: up your rankings? Why is he thirty six or thirty nine?

632
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: I just don't get it.

633
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: And then he's addings this year, so five actually might

634
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: be low, you know, That's what I'm saying, Like, I

635
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: haven't five six, to be honest with you, not even

636
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: gonna lie.

637
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean he deserves that. It's a very

638
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, uh high target like that. It's it runs

639
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: through Christian Kirk and Jay Jones. Yeah, you know, Marvin

640
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Jones doesn't really affactor her as much. Evan Ingram surprisingly

641
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: just hasn't been seeing targets lately, and with ETN banged up,

642
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, just just a massive amount of targets going

643
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: to both Jones and Christian Kirk. So yeah, what's not

644
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: to love about him? But the other receiver I'm high

645
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: on finally this year actually because I love this guy.

646
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: It's it's Michael Gallup and I have him as my

647
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty eight against the Colts. But he's he's

648
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: coming off his best game of the season. He posted

649
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: a solid, you know, five catches for sixty three yard game,

650
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: but he actually looked closer to one hundred percent. You know,

651
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: he's making some great catches look great out there. Saw

652
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: a ninety four percent routes run rate, which is the

653
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: highest of the season. So you know, he could provide

654
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: solid wide receiver three value until the Cowboys potentially bring

655
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: in Odell Beckham. So you know, just Gallop just this

656
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: matchup could be more of a pass funnel. I know

657
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: they've been leaning on Zeke and Paular in the past

658
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: few weeks, and you know, why wouldn't you, But this

659
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: could be a matchup where they aired out just a

660
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: little bit more. So I see Gallop as more of

661
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: a mid range wide receiver three this week. This is

662
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: kind of the Gallop we we saw it last year

663
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: when he was playing well. I think he's finally healthy,

664
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: so he's he's moving way up my rankings this week.

665
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Wait, we need yeah, we need to talk about gallup

666
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: because I have him. He's still sitting here a wide

667
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: receiver forty six for me. So yeah, I'm trying to

668
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: figure out how how we're getting here.

669
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: So what do you have?

670
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I have his route that ninety What do you have?

671
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Good? That's very good. That that's about where I have him,

672
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: I think.

673
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Because because they're not they're they're playing a lot more

674
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: too wide with the two tight ends now. So I've

675
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: got him up and Noah Brown down.

676
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: I have him at eighty eight.

677
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, so right there. So how many past years

678
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: you have Dak sixty? Ah, that's why I have ye,

679
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm at like forty. Yeah, I guess it. Oh you

680
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: know why? Because they are eleven point faise So it

681
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: takes like a big chunk out of his Like it

682
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: makes the Cowboys a lot more run heavy in my model.

683
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: So I might have to do some adjustments. I think

684
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I might still have some of the Cooper rush. Oh yeah,

685
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: you know pass run splits going on here.

686
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean they were, you know, full control

687
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: of their past two games, and he's still cleared this number.

688
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: So I'm factoring that as well. You know, they're still

689
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: going to be able to run the shell the ball here,

690
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: and you know, after last night, I don't think the

691
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Colts keep it close, but they've been He's been able

692
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: to top to sixty in the past couple of games

693
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: even with you know, very favorable game script or you know,

694
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: a positive one. So I'm still there around to sixty.

695
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: So that's that's really where the difference is.

696
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I need to Yeah, I guess the

697
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: Colts defense has been pretty good too against quarterbacks and just.

698
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: No, Brown is a complete goat in this offense now,

699
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: just not doing shit. So he's sort of the DeMarcus

700
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Robinson role in this offense. We say that, like DeMarcus Robinson, Sorry,

701
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: not the Baltimore Ravens version.

702
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean he disappeared to ask games, so everything's back

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: to normal.

704
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone else there, No, just those two guys.

705
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

706
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: For me, it is.

707
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. I mean, like he's finally free of Zach

708
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Wilson and I am loving it. I have Garrett Wilson

709
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver nine this week. He's wide receiver twenty one

710
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: CONSENSUSNY one oh man. Yeah, So, I mean, yeah, I

711
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: don't know why he's that low, but he's run a

712
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: route on at least ninety percent of the dropbacks in

713
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: each of the past four games.

714
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

715
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: You know, even with Corey Davis back, even in the rain,

716
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: still is in on ninety percent of the dropbacks with

717
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Mike White at quarterback. And I actually haven't projected at

718
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: eighty nine percent, so a little bit conservatively, And yeah,

719
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: he's still popping his My wide receiver nine Minnesota is

720
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a bottom five team in terms of DVOA against number

721
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: one wide receivers. They're twenty ninth a quartering the Football Outsiders,

722
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: So great matchup for Garrett Wilson. He's got the speed,

723
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: he gets open, he's being targeted in the red zone.

724
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: We've seen him produce big games with Mike White, Flacco

725
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: and UH and Zach Wilson, so he seems to be

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: quarterback proofs. And I think they said it on UH.

727
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: I think it was Joe Davis. I forget who was

728
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: calling that game. Whoever it was, I liked him on

729
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: the Bears on that Bears telecast, but he called Wilson

730
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: a budding superstar, and I think that's exactly what he is.

731
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: So this is the time of year where I don't

732
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: want to be low on rookies. That I think are

733
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna are gonna pop off. Soh Garrett Wilson inside my

734
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: top ten this week against Minnesota and Love Loved is

735
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: a Jones call, as I mentioned, So yeah those are

736
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: my those are my two guys. But yeah, lovingson Garrett

737
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: Wilson this week.

738
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I was actually bracing myself

739
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: for you to have him in your top five. It's

740
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: a little disappoint in that, but you know, top ten

741
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: is pretty good. I thought I was pretty high at

742
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver fifteen. I think that could only go up.

743
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's sort of like Elijah Moore from last year. Yeah,

744
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: just going off with all these different quarterbacks, but you know,

745
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson is the real deal. And just yeah, as

746
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: long as Mike White center center, he is definitely pushing

747
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: top ten value. So yeah, right there with you on Um.

748
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: How funny was it to see Elijah Moore pop off

749
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: the minute Jack Wilson gets out of the line, Like

750
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: it was like quackwork and he's really with.

751
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: Like less than fifty percent. Yeah, love to see it though.

752
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just man, I mean, yo, that jets. If Mike

753
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: White can just be serviceable, and I know you know

754
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times these quarterbly third string quarterbacks, you know,

755
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: they start well, but then they kind of trend down.

756
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: But you know, if he could be serviceable, people are

757
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: not going to want to face that Jets team as

758
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: like wild card man. They're just too explosive. The defenses.

759
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: They can create turnovers like it's gonna be.

760
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: All right.

761
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Who are you low and at wide receiver?

762
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm low on scary Terry. I have Terry mccorn as

763
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: the wide receiver twenty three to up in the week

764
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: against the Giants. Consensus is wide receiver thirteen. And you know,

765
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: if you go off talent, certainly that makes a ton

766
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: of sense. But the Commanders, I don't know if people

767
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: know this. They have become an extreme run heavy team.

768
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking like Bears Falcons type of run heavy offense.

769
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: They've averaged forty two rush attempts the past three games.

770
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: It's working for them. They've won what six of their

771
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: past seven games. Yep, They're on this three game winning streak,

772
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 2: So I don't see them getting away from that, especially

773
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: against the Giants this week. So I'm sure Terry will

774
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: do the most, make the most of his targets this week.

775
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: But you know he's not gonna see many and right

776
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: now he has a low floor. Like if he doesn't

777
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: cash in on his five or six targets, you know

778
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: he's he's screwed. So I just don't see how you

779
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: would get to him being in the wide receiver one,

780
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver two, cusp. I just view him as you know,

781
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: low end wide receiver two, just based on the rushing

782
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: attack right now. So I'm a low on him to

783
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: start the week. And then oh my god, Courtland Sutton

784
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver forty two for me too. Yeah, Like, did

785
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: you watch that Broncos game.

786
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I was telling you guys. I was like,

787
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Carolina is gonna be a game and a half got

788
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: a first place because they're the only team that's gonna win.

789
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: And it happened exactly like that said, deionce form is

790
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna go off. Nobody thinks he's gonna have a good game.

791
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Screw what do he?

792
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: I think he was the leading rusher at one point

793
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of the day. Like, yeah, yeah, definitely watched that game.

794
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, wow, yeah, I mean to to my

795
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: own horn. A little bit early in the season, I

796
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: was ranking Russell Wilson Q twenty. I was like, come on,

797
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: why is he QB eleven? This is ridiculous. I didn't

798
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: think he was gonna be this bad, but I mean,

799
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: whoof So his consent, his consensus right right now is

800
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty six. Where the hell do you have him?

801
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I have him thirty, So I'm lower.

802
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm just not.

803
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I still have him. You know, I have

804
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: him getting his you know, forty five catches, you know,

805
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty yards just.

806
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: Like no touchdown, you know, right, yeah, yeah, I think

807
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: we're we're probably similar. But right now I do have

808
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy returning, so that could be why I'm a

809
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: little bit lower. Plus, this is a tougher matchup. You know,

810
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: they're facing the Ravens, so you know, how is Russell

811
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: Wilson in a bounce back here? So just right now,

812
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: just all the Broncos across the board. You know, last

813
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: week had Greg Dolcich tight end five. Love the talent,

814
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: but that's it for me.

815
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Did you see the overturn touchdown? You gotta he got

816
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: a touchdown? Oh obviously, you know, yeah, yeah, and then

817
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: it went to Brandon Johnson, Brandon Jason obviously.

818
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: How long would that touchdown have been.

819
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Like twenty yards or something like that, ten ten, twenty yards.

820
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: It was in the red zone, I believe, or like

821
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: red zone. I think he would have had thirty yards

822
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: and he finished with eleven, so I think it was

823
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: a nineteen yard I want to say, Okay.

824
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I had the over on his prop. That

825
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't mattered either way.

826
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: But again, never never take over on a Denver Bronco

827
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: passing loud and clear.

828
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: Again that well, it worked the first dulcicch his debut,

829
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: it worked out.

830
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: That was like a busted cover. I think we talked,

831
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: remember we talked about that on the last week spot.

832
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm low on Dulsage because he's had

833
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: one touchdown and it came on a busted coverage and

834
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't even got a red zone target since. And

835
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: then he gets one and then they's freaking.

836
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: Over turned, like what kind of Yeah, don't talk about Dulsae.

837
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: This is purely out of uh, you know, Russell Wilson.

838
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: In spite of Russe Wilson. So anyways, I'm downgrading everybody

839
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: and Sutton especially, you know, down to wide receiver forty

840
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: two for me, if Judy is held out again. Sure

841
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: Sutton will be a wide receiver three for me again.

842
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: But again, you you just can't trust anybody in this

843
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: offense right now, I guess outside of Latavious Marine.

844
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean trust is you know, it's like

845
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: it's just straight up volume, like you trust the volume.

846
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: That's exactly exactly. Man.

847
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm went on Juju Smith Schuster just because I don't

848
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on with the usage in the

849
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City Receiving Corps. You know, he he came back

850
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: from the concussion, and concussions aren't the type of injury

851
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: where you really need any type of like easing in.

852
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: But he only ran around on forty six percent of

853
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: the dropbacks, and Justin Watson continued to be operated as

854
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: like an every down player, and you know, until we

855
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: see Juju like rebound. And I know again, I know

856
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: it was this first came back from injury. But like concussions,

857
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: we have a lot of data that shows that like

858
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: players usually just bounce back to their normal selves from concussion.

859
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what's going on with like

860
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it seems like it's going to be one

861
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: of those things where they're splitting it up, you know,

862
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: between everybody. Sky Moore is getting involved MVS. You know,

863
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: even with everyone kind of hurt, his routes participation has

864
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: been going down as well, and Tony might even be back.

865
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: So I just can't trust Juju right now. So I

866
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: have him as wide receiver forty two. I'm projecting him

867
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: a little bit below his you know, his for the season.

868
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: He's median route participation seventy seven percent, but I'm in

869
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: the sixties until we see him bounce back, you know,

870
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: into his normal range. So and again, even when if

871
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: he is running a full compliment of snap, just the

872
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: way Kansas City is kind of spreading the ball around,

873
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: like they really don't have a true number one receiver

874
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: like Juju had, you know, a couple of good games,

875
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: but a couple of games where he just disappeared. So

876
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: the consistency just not there for me with Juju so

877
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: low on him.

878
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they probably limited him just because

879
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't a close game. I know, the score ended

880
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: up being closer than I thought, but you know, just

881
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: the RAMS didn't say a chance, so I wonder if

882
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: it was just sort of limiting him based on the

883
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: game script, but it was weird to see only a

884
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: forty six yeah percent rate from him.

885
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: And I yeah, I know, I rewatched that game too

886
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: and like it, Like he made some catches in the

887
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: second half, so it wasn't like he was in early

888
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: and then they you know, took him out because they

889
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: were up. They were just kind of rotating everybody in

890
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: and you know, even sky Moore, who had a big game,

891
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: his route participation went down as well. And it's like

892
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: Watson is the only guy that's continuing to see a

893
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: lot of playing time. So it's just again and Andy Reid.

894
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: I always have to be kind of conservative, so like

895
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: in those kinds of situations, I just project everyone a

896
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: little bit closer, you know, to each other with the

897
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: usage until we you know, until we see some separation

898
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: because earlier in the year it was kind of like

899
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: MVS and Juju, like eighty other guys low. Right now

900
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: it's kind of everyone's converging another player. I'm low on out,

901
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's weird because I do, like I

902
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: want to be higher on him. But Chris o'lave, I'm

903
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: at wide receiver twenty six, He's in the top twenty

904
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: and consensus he's eighteenth, and you know he's just not

905
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: running a true number one wide receiver. You know, route

906
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: participation rate, he's been around eighty three eighty four percent,

907
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: and you know it's kind of been up and down.

908
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: He had one game at ninety seven percent, but you know,

909
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: last three games eighty seven, sixty three, eighty three, and

910
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: this kind of passing game where you know they're rotating

911
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Taysom Hilling and they're going up against a Bucks defense

912
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: that has some some pretty good corners. Uh, you know,

913
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I know he had the bigger I think he had

914
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: a big game against the Bucks the first time if

915
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. But I just think top twenty for

916
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: o Lave is too high based on what you know

917
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: his route participation is and in the matchup, so I

918
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: have him as more of a high end wide receiver three,

919
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: low and wide receiver two, whereas the consensus has him

920
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: it's more of a mid range to high end wide

921
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: receiver two.

922
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I'm wide receiver

924
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: twenty five and just whenever you apply logic and off

925
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: his underlying data, that's why he ends up. But he's

926
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: going to get a thirty yard touchdown, catch five balls,

927
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: and you know, put up eighty yards. So usually by

928
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: the end of the week, I just manually adjust him

929
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: up a little bit higher. And to be fair, I

930
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: mean he's super talented. Kind of going back what you

931
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: said earlier.

932
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be well on it.

933
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm just investing in rookies, so it's it's tough, but

934
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: I'm right there. When when it comes to underlying data,

935
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: it makes total sense for him to be in the

936
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: mid twenties. But there is just he is a special,

937
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: special wide receiver, so he usually does you know, end

938
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: up producing like a wide receiver too, so he's tricky

939
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: to project. But yeah, he's he's one of the better

940
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: rookies of this class for sure.

941
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be mad when I adjust him up

942
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: manually and then he runs to the roust and Rashid Shiheed.

943
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well like last week, right, yeah, two week

944
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: before I think it was.

945
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, exactly, all.

946
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: Right, wide receiver prop what you got?

947
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: Uh, So I'm going with Amari Cooper receiving yards. So

948
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: I hate him trying to figure out how such a

949
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: tough projection project him with Deshaun Watson under center now,

950
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: and I am going with I mean, a lot of

951
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: this does kind of go off of your Deshaun Watson projection,

952
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: but I'm going with sixty five and a half receiving yards.

953
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh, that is a good line. I will go under.

954
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: I have it at sixty three. I have Watson projected

955
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: pretty conservatively because I think Cleveland is going to want

956
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: to remain run heavy against this Houston defense. And you know,

957
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: just kind of what we saw limited time of Watson,

958
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: Like I think Watson to start is going to be

959
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot closer to like Jacobe Brissette than than we think.

960
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, so I actually Watson just around like two

961
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: thirty passing yards like nothing crazy, But you know, obviously

962
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: very effishent like eight yards in attempt. I don't have

963
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I have him throwing under thirty times and have him

964
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: scrambling a bunch. So he's still a top twelve quarterback

965
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: for me. But you know, some of it's coming on

966
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: his legs. I just you know, it's hot. We don't

967
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: have much data to where, you know, we could just say, Okay,

968
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna drop, He's gonna throw like thirty five, thirty

969
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: six passes like he did with that terrible Houston team.

970
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have him, I have him. What do

971
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: you have his passing?

972
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: I was just curious right there with you, like two

973
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: forty okay, but similar I think you know they're just

974
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: gonna lean out Nick Chubb here and did you watch

975
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: this preseason game?

976
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

977
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: I think you sick?

978
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Fuck you sick pho.

979
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: Other than that, he looked like shit. I mean he

980
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: looked really rusty, So I mean he could take a

981
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: couple of games plus just to get back to the

982
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: Watson you know people expect, but all that time off,

983
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean he looked he looked pretty off. So yeah,

984
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: like he could be shaky out of the gate. And

985
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: it's an easy matchup so they probably don't need to

986
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: throw that much. But either way, Cooper Cooper is always

987
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: a tough projection. Yeah, but just adding this and just

988
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: makes it tougher. So I had to throw this out there.

989
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I want to be on his over,

990
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: but but I'll take it.

991
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: How uh, I mean, how about them Browns? Though I

992
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: know we were both on it, Amari Cooper, it looked

993
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: like almost like drop the game away with that drop

994
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: and then he comes in the over time he comes

995
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: back and just streaking down the side.

996
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. I just I've had so many

997
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: of my bets end up being brutal beats, but that

998
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: I definitely felt lucky on that for sure. That's down

999
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: that should Yeah that like one handed grab, Oh my god.

1000
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: But Cooper ended up making a big catch to make

1001
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: up for that drop. But yeah, that that was the

1002
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: luck box win for sure. But happy to see per

1003
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: set go with the win. That's what I thought that.

1004
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 2: You know, this team wanted to rally around him. Could

1005
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: be his last start as a Brown, so happy for

1006
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: him to you know, go with the win.

1007
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jacoby Brissett led Cleveland to the number

1008
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: four offense in DVO A number eight passing, number three rushing,

1009
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: a top eight pass offense with Burssett. No, yeah, he

1010
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: played Watson might not be better like he might it's crazy.

1011
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah's a likable guy. You can't say that about Watson.

1012
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: So I've been rooting for Broussett all year, So just

1013
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: happy for him to pull off a win for me

1014
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: on that.

1015
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, we should have we should have done

1016
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: a Watson prop Christian Watson TDS versus John Watson, td

1017
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: oh Man.

1018
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: I'll take Christian oh Man.

1019
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Just all he does is score touchdowns. All right, let's go.

1020
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: Let's close it out with tight end. Who's your top five?

1021
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: So I got Travis Kelce, Mark Andrews, t J. Hockinson,

1022
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: George Kittle, and Pat Friarmouth.

1023
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Kelsey, Andrews, Kittle, Hockinson, and I got

1024
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Schultz five and fire moves six. This week? Makes sense

1025
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: who you high on?

1026
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: So I'm high on Foster Morow. He's my tight end

1027
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: eight against the Chargers. Looks like he's tight end twelve

1028
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: in consensus, So yeah, he's he's a mid range tight

1029
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: end one. Right now, he went, you know, three catches

1030
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: for three three yards and a touchdown. But you know,

1031
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: his underlying usage just remains elite right now. He had

1032
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: a ninety route participation. You know, he's Derek Car's number

1033
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: two target right now. So especially if Josh Jacobs is

1034
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: actually limited this week or actually misses the game, you

1035
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: know that's just gonna be mean more targets for Morow.

1036
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: So he really hasn't had a ceiling game yet, but

1037
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: I think we could see, you know, a massive game

1038
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: for Morow, like a game we would expect from like

1039
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: a Darren Waller. He is seeing that kind of underlying usage.

1040
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: So against the charges week could turn in more of

1041
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: a pass heavy shootout. So I like Moro's floor end

1042
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: ceiling here again, He's like a mid range tight end

1043
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: one for me.

1044
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Right now, you said you have him tighten eight, tight

1045
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: end eight, Yeah, tight end as well. No, but I do, uh,

1046
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: I do love the usage because no one's playing like

1047
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: they're deactivating their third tight end Hollister, and Moros is

1048
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: playing every every single snap.

1049
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1050
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: I am high on I'm high on Schultz. First of all,

1051
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean I have him in the top five, uh

1052
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: one point seven yards per route against zone versus one

1053
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: yard perrout versus man. And we know the Coats love

1054
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: to play zone coverage. They're also bottom five in dv

1055
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: o A against tight ends. And I'm also finally, I

1056
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: know I've been down on him a bunch this year,

1057
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: but I'm high on Tyra Klonklin this week. Uh, he

1058
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: is my tight end nine, and he's the tight end seventeen.

1059
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: You know he's And it's just I have Mike White,

1060
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, is a big upgrade on on Zach Wilson

1061
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: and this Minnesota pass defense. You know, you know, we

1062
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: saw Mac Jones have a good game against him, you know,

1063
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Dak Prescot like, I don't really think this Minnesota defense

1064
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: is gonna provide too much, too much resistance here. So

1065
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's every week it's kind of ugly with

1066
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: these tight ends. So Conklin, who's been running a route

1067
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: in mid seventies each week, have him as a top

1068
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: ten tight end this week?

1069
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: Nice? Yeah, I think it was last week you were

1070
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: low on him and I said, how high will he

1071
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: move up? Your projections? Yeah, there we go if they

1072
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: replace Zach Wilson with either Joe Flack or Mike White,

1073
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: and you said it'd be more beneficial for Mike White,

1074
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: So there you go. Yeah, Conklin's my tight end ten.

1075
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: It's amazing how much better these Jets players are when

1076
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: they have a guy that can throw the ball to them. Yeah.

1077
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean he had three catches for fifty yards, but

1078
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: you know that's kind of scratching the surface. You know,

1079
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: if he can get a few more targets, which I

1080
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: do haven't project I think I haven't projected for it's see. Yeah,

1081
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: like about five and a half targets. Yeah, then you know,

1082
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's not much, but for tight ends, it's uh,

1083
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: he can do some damage.

1084
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: Week weeks one through three, I think it was the

1085
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: tight end four.

1086
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so's that upside. He'll sneak up on people.

1087
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, gotta grower guys like Dosach.

1088
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Who you know, God too soon?

1089
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: All right, who are you low on?

1090
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: Well, we're both on this guy, so let's just pile

1091
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: on Tyler Hegbee. He's my tight end twenty three to

1092
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: open the week, and you know where do I begin?

1093
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: So last week he had a thirty route participation in

1094
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: case you're not sure, that is terrible, and didn't see

1095
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: a target either, and he was questionable with that knee injury. Again,

1096
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: it looks like he just he's not very good at

1097
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: playing through injury. This is like the second or third

1098
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: time this year he played through a questionable tag and

1099
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: didn't even see a target, So that that's something we

1100
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: have to factor in going forward. But especially you know,

1101
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: even though Cooper cup is out, Alan Robinson is out,

1102
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: it almost doesn't matter if Bryce Perkins is under center

1103
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: again because they're just not going to throw the ball.

1104
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: So you know, his rank might go up if John

1105
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: Wolferd returns. But he's not going to be a tight

1106
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: end one the rest of the way, no matter what.

1107
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: So if you're hanging on to him, just cut bait now,

1108
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. But yeah, he has fallen fast.

1109
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: So he's all the way down to tight end twenty

1110
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: three for me to begin the week.

1111
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tight end twenty one for me, tight

1112
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: end eleven in consensus, which I really don't.

1113
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Get recycling last week's rankings.

1114
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, just can't can't trust him, you know, I mean,

1115
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: and listen, his routes could pop back up. Maybe he's

1116
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: off the injury report this week, but the fact that

1117
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't targeted and the fact that he's blocking more,

1118
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: which he is blocking more, He is blocking more this

1119
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think I mentioned that a few weeks ago,

1120
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: but with this Rams offensive line just in shambles, he's

1121
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: had to block more. And now that Kyron is here,

1122
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to block either the tight

1123
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: end or the running back, now with Kyron here, it's

1124
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot more likely to be the tight end because

1125
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, with anchors, we always talk about he never

1126
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: went out in the route and you know, Henderson saw

1127
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: some but you know it's just it's kind of a

1128
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: switching role for Higbee and looking like a lost season.

1129
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: So you know, until until we see something out of him,

1130
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: especially without Stafford, I think we have to continue to

1131
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: uh to be low on him. I'm also well on

1132
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox this week. He's a tight end. He's a

1133
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: top ten tight ending consensus. I have him closer to

1134
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: tight end thirteen. And you know this New England defense,

1135
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: I just you know, Knox has really been kind of

1136
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: an afterthought in this Bill's offense. He had the one

1137
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: kind of he kind of jumped, you know, what's the

1138
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: word looking. He popped up against Minnesota when they were

1139
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: coming from behind late in the game, and he kept

1140
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: catching some balls. But again, I just don't see the consistency,

1141
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: even though the routes are are up for Knox. And

1142
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: you know this Buffalo going against New England, it's gonna

1143
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: be one of the lowest team totals Buffalo is gonna

1144
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: have all year. So his when Knox doesn't have touch

1145
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: down probability high touchdown probability, he's really kind of useless.

1146
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: And he's only scored twice this year. So you know,

1147
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: I just I don't really see it for for Knox,

1148
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: and another guy you know, similar boat is Juan Johnson,

1149
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, finally didn't score a touchdown. He actually had

1150
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: one hit him in the face mask, so he could

1151
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: have scored a touchdown. But his route participation is trending

1152
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: downward and he's still being ranked in the top fifteen consensus,

1153
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: but his route participation went eighty three, sixty five, sixty

1154
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: nine fifty one over the last four weeks. And you know,

1155
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: so now he's not really you know, being a guy

1156
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: that we could trust in that you know, seventy eighty

1157
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: percent snap rate anymore. Because Troutman's healthier, Taysom Hill's getting

1158
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot more routes at the tight end position, so

1159
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: if he doesn't catch a touchdown, it's probably going to

1160
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: be like two catches for twenty five yards or something

1161
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: like that. So I have him tight in twenty two.

1162
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: He's tightened fifteen consensus.

1163
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we've both been saying the the

1164
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: bomb's going to fall out on Juwan Johnson. Sure enough,

1165
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: zero catch game, So we told.

1166
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: You so, all right, let's go for the tight end prop.

1167
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Let's see who do I want to go with.

1168
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: Here, Let's go with Dulca. Oh god, all right, I

1169
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: am going to set his line at Palllo.

1170
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Can you go? I have a number in mind. You're

1171
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: gonna be within two yards?

1172
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: I bet let's go. Let's go twenty nine and a half.

1173
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I had twenty six and a half written down,

1174
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: So I'm going under. Hate to do it. I love

1175
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 2: the player, hate the offense, but have to go under.

1176
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: I got to get some of these wins back. I

1177
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: got to catch up to you. So all business this week, dolcig.

1178
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I mean his media is actually a little bit.

1179
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: His median is thirty seven, so it's just it's the

1180
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: last three games eleven thirty eleven.

1181
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: So yeah. It probably also does depend on Judy returns.

1182
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: So if Judy does turn this week, that's definitely gonna

1183
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: help my underhitting. But definitely a good line to start

1184
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: the week. All right.

1185
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: That is gonna wrap it up for the week thirteen

1186
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,160
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1187
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,240
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1188
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,160
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1189
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1191
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1192
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