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Speaker 1: Gregg Suspen here alongside the Closer, Chris Patch it Chris,
Speaker 1: what's up, guys? How you doing? It's your boy? The Closer,
Speaker 1: um ring the bell, Ring the bell, Josh Allegheny River
Speaker 1: there you go, four hundred and seventy ft bomb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a bomb. It was like a rocket,
Speaker 1: you know. It was on a line almost. Frank wants
Speaker 1: to go nuts by the way you were in the
Speaker 1: Rockies had But there's David Dala, Daniel Murphy thing bring
Speaker 1: that Rocky's hat over here. He's gonna stop on it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna stop. I need a new one anyway. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's the problem. And I know you're saying you have
Speaker 1: four Rockies on that one team too, that's rough. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, I see a six game week in
Speaker 1: Coors Field, I get excited about it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: no one's in the freaking lineup. Yeah, let's play Ian
Speaker 1: Desmond over David Dal Rymo Tapia is a lefty two.
Speaker 1: Why is he playing over David Dal and Dolls? It's
Speaker 1: not like Dolls hitting poorly's hitting over three hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we need Mark Reynolds in the lineup instead of
Speaker 1: Daniel Murphy. That's what we need. We need more Mark Reynolds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be in the lineup. I was asking Greg
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions throughout the break, who could I
Speaker 1: trade Daniel Murphy for? Because I'm trading these guys. I
Speaker 1: don't want them. Sean wants to trade I don't want them,
Speaker 1: showing up stair down says in the pit wants to
Speaker 1: trade Murphy as well. In the pit league Accho trade
Speaker 1: and yeah, are you still enjoy it when he doesn't
Speaker 1: play every day? You still believe great? That he's gonna
Speaker 1: be Okay, frustrating man. Okay, honestly, this is exactly what
Speaker 1: fantasy owner shouldn't do. Learn from my mistake. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: just freak out because the guy's not in the lineup
Speaker 1: and try and trade him. But I'm gonna make a
Speaker 1: trade today. I asked him, do you think I could
Speaker 1: get Victor Roebolist for David Dald? What do you think
Speaker 1: but David Doald? Yeah, I think you canna send it
Speaker 1: David for Victor Robos. I think it happened, all right, Cool,
Speaker 1: make it happen to have a few games that are
Speaker 1: about to start up. Sucks Troy, the Angels are rain
Speaker 1: let Boo said about that too. Yeah, I really wish
Speaker 1: that Zack Effler viny Vlaska as we're jaredikough because he
Speaker 1: has been fantastic and a couple of weeks ago when
Speaker 1: we talked about ranking the Phillies, believe I put I
Speaker 1: call first one that was I did not I think
Speaker 1: he was, No, not those outside it was. It was
Speaker 1: Efflyn and Velasquez, I cough and Vetta. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know that we included Povetta in the ranking. I think
Speaker 1: it was just I Cough, Eflyn and Vlaska's um and
Speaker 1: I think that's how I ranked it. I might have
Speaker 1: had Alaska as ahead of e Flynn, but after this
Speaker 1: week's funeral, I mean, yeah, he's Vince Vlaska's dead to
Speaker 1: us from a fantasy perspective. But Jaredikough, you guys been awesome.
Speaker 1: I look, he's not gonna continue to be this awesome.
Speaker 1: But last night, yes, pretty damn good lineup. St. Louis
Speaker 1: Cardinals goes in St. Louis. That's two nights in a row.
Speaker 1: Get Aaron Nolans right, and then you get Jaredis. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean he shut out innings for jaredia Cooss. There's
Speaker 1: a chance that the Cardinals maybe they're just going through
Speaker 1: a cold spell right now, but man'll take that from Jaredis.
Speaker 1: Three hits, three walks, four strikeouts on the day for Jaredikons,
Speaker 1: I can't see it lasting long though, what I've seen
Speaker 1: this before with him, why not? I don't trust him.
Speaker 1: I just don't trust him. He did have a season
Speaker 1: back in twenty six team where he was good three
Speaker 1: six R right over hundred ninety seven innings and then
Speaker 1: was horribly after pretty good. Yeah, No, I mean he's
Speaker 1: he's been pretty bad in the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: but it's not completely insane that he can have fantasy
Speaker 1: value because we've we've seen him do it over an
Speaker 1: entire season, almost two pits. Has he changed, I know
Speaker 1: you like to see guys. Guys change something. Has he
Speaker 1: changed something you would know more than so, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: actually has. He's using a cutter more this year. Um.
Speaker 1: He threw it last year about ten percent of the time.
Speaker 1: This here, he's throwing it thirty percent of the time.
Speaker 1: So that seems to be something that's in the mix
Speaker 1: for him. This year he's using this cutter more. Seems
Speaker 1: to be helping him again in addition by subtraction, just
Speaker 1: not using his fastball as much using this this cutter more. Um,
Speaker 1: it mixes in a curveball, so he he uses the
Speaker 1: fourth scene that time a little bit straighter used the
Speaker 1: cutter throw people off, and it also uses a curveball.
Speaker 1: The swinging strike rate twelve point one percent pretty good,
Speaker 1: I thantly average. His first pitch strike percentage very good. Uh,
Speaker 1: the chase rate not all that great. And again he
Speaker 1: has a one point five zero ear A. His X
Speaker 1: fit is four point zero nine that's because he hasn't
Speaker 1: given up a home run yet and he pitches in
Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park, so there's gonna be some games where
Speaker 1: he gives up some homer's and he comes back a
Speaker 1: little bit. But even if he pitches too high three
Speaker 1: z r A as a picture that you picked up
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire, that's that's perfectly fine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that high three z r A with it.
Speaker 1: With a good run support behind you in the Phillies,
Speaker 1: he's gonna win some games to venture. How much would
Speaker 1: you recommend spending, see like I wouldn't spend Yeah, something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, again, there's gonna there's gonna be some regression.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna pitch to a sub two year race.
Speaker 1: So that's overall. I do like him. He's doing something different.
Speaker 1: The swinging strikes are there. He's averaging over a strikeout
Speaker 1: for any right now. The strikeouts weren't necessarily there last night.
Speaker 1: He only had four over eight innings, so you want
Speaker 1: to see that be a little bit better. But I
Speaker 1: guess a good lineup in the Cardinals. You know who
Speaker 1: was not good on the other side, Jack Flaherty five innings,
Speaker 1: four hits, four rhy Man. I'm buying low. If someone's
Speaker 1: freaking out, I'm trying to get him on my team.
Speaker 1: The guys have stud Look, it didn't happen yesterday. I
Speaker 1: actually benched him in the league that we talked about
Speaker 1: earlier on UH this week, Greg, I benched him for you, Darvis,
Speaker 1: who's going today against the Marlins. We'll see how that
Speaker 1: works out. But right now I feel pretty good about
Speaker 1: the decision because Jack Flaherty did not pitch well UH
Speaker 1: and didn't have the strikeouts last night either. Well that
Speaker 1: was actually day game, but only had two strikeouts in
Speaker 1: five innings. Just the overall didn't have it yesterday trip.
Speaker 1: But if someone's freaking out in your league, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to buy Jack Flaherty right now. Obviously we know you
Speaker 1: know Flaherty has got great stuff, and he's still young.
Speaker 1: He's still a guy who's you know, is going to
Speaker 1: go through some growing pains. You know, least ye had
Speaker 1: a phenomenal season, and I feel like he kind of
Speaker 1: took the league by surprise this year. They know about him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to make adjustments, and I think he's
Speaker 1: got the overall stuff control the mentality to do it,
Speaker 1: so I would definitely buy, and you're right, there might
Speaker 1: be people that are freaking out. I mean, the last
Speaker 1: three starts before that weren't so so bad. The k's
Speaker 1: were up at nine k's and ten k's against Milwaukee
Speaker 1: on the twenty two April, so like, he's shown these
Speaker 1: signs of breaking out, but he's still going through some
Speaker 1: bad starts here and there. And this wasn't a terrible started,
Speaker 1: which just wasn't a flaberty start, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: two k's not like him. If he had six ks
Speaker 1: as opposed to, we'd be looking at it right now, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he had a pretty decent start. If he had six
Speaker 1: innings quality startup, definitely right. I'd be willing to bet
Speaker 1: that he's had one of the toughest schedule will to
Speaker 1: start this Yeah, yeah, with all the starts against it.
Speaker 1: He's had three starts against the Brewers. You have to
Speaker 1: face the Phillies yesterday, which is an out of division game,
Speaker 1: and that's why you see the ear a little bit
Speaker 1: inflated at a four three two, but the X fit
Speaker 1: three point five four his home run, the fly ball
Speaker 1: ratio that's not gonna stand. The swinging strikes are still there.
Speaker 1: This guy throws throws mid nineties. He's gotta wipe out.
Speaker 1: Slider command is better. This year is walks per nine
Speaker 1: last year with three point five. This year's two point eight.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Exactly the crand is there, what's his
Speaker 1: strand rate? I bet that's uh, it's it's seventy seven
Speaker 1: point one percent, so it's actually pretty much it's an Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's fine. But he's just giving up too many
Speaker 1: home runs right now. That's the biggest issue for him.
Speaker 1: And he faced Milwaukee three times already. Exactly, I'm buying man,
Speaker 1: I'm buying Jack Flaerty Peace. Yeah, I'm I'm buying man.
Speaker 1: I'm in. You got me all right for sure. Hitting wise,
Speaker 1: Caesar Hernandez in his third whole run of the year,
Speaker 1: while Bryce Harvard did not, going over three with a
Speaker 1: striking out two more times. Bryce's average is at two
Speaker 1: thirty one. The Phillies fans are getting restless, gentlemen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna get a little bit more restless tonight
Speaker 1: after the after the seventies sixers loose, that series has
Speaker 1: just had so many momentum shifts. Greg I thought I
Speaker 1: felt like Philly was about to take over, and then
Speaker 1: it's flipped on a dime. Toronto is doing their thing.
Speaker 1: But anyway, back to Bryce harper Um still hitting the
Speaker 1: boat really hard this year. He's his bad it is
Speaker 1: actually so this is interesting. Greg his bad, his three
Speaker 1: oh three. He's a career three seventeen bad guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his batting averages to thirty one seems bad. So he's
Speaker 1: pulling the ball a lot. And then of the time
Speaker 1: he's pulling So I think he's just really really hitting
Speaker 1: right into the shift a ton of the time, and
Speaker 1: he I think he's getting killed a lot by that.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is part of the reason why all the
Speaker 1: other teams in baseball didn't want to give this guy
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars. He is a lefty who at
Speaker 1: times has ruggled a little bit against lefties. He's very
Speaker 1: pole happy in an arrow where teams are doing crazy
Speaker 1: things to try and get out. These extreme pole hitting
Speaker 1: lefties have these crazy shifts. They're playing before outfielders. Now,
Speaker 1: this might be part of the reason his poll rate
Speaker 1: is up this year. His infield fly ball rate is up,
Speaker 1: so it seems like he might be pressing a little bit.
Speaker 1: The strikeouts are up. He has the pressure of playing
Speaker 1: in Philly, new place to play, lots of expectations. So
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried, are you, yeah, looking looking at these,
Speaker 1: looking at the strikeouts and strike r and the infield flyballs.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get better. He's not a two thirty one hitter.
Speaker 1: We know that we saw in the second half what
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing. He hit close to three hundred
Speaker 1: or maybe even over three hundred in the second half
Speaker 1: last year. But I do have some concerns over him
Speaker 1: right now. He might he might be pressing a little
Speaker 1: bit too hard. I'm not too concerned because of I mean,
Speaker 1: the walk rates great. It's always great. It's always great.
Speaker 1: That's the thing you're getting with Harpers. You know that
Speaker 1: people are afraid to pitch this guy. The powers insane. Um,
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get hits. He's gonna get his
Speaker 1: even if he ends up bet into to fifty, right,
Speaker 1: which you don't want. You're looking for more like what
Speaker 1: to seventy maybe at the end of the year. You know,
Speaker 1: if you paid for him. Um, his range of outcomes
Speaker 1: is crazy, crazy because like we've seen him hit three
Speaker 1: thirty first season, and this year he's in two thirty,
Speaker 1: and last year he hit forty nine. So he was
Speaker 1: one of the hardest players for me to project Greg
Speaker 1: And I liked Bryce Harper a lot because he in
Speaker 1: that late first round range. He was one of those
Speaker 1: players that you say, I could take him in the
Speaker 1: late first round and he can be one of the
Speaker 1: top three players drafted the next season. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of players you can say that about, but he
Speaker 1: has that upside, puts everything together and hits over three
Speaker 1: hundred with stolen basis and forty home runs and all
Speaker 1: these RBIs and runs before. Because he plays in Citizens
Speaker 1: Bank and with that Phillies line up, he has one
Speaker 1: of the biggest upsides. So that's why I liked him
Speaker 1: a lot. But he's going through a funk right now
Speaker 1: venture but well, the I mean the bad shows, I
Speaker 1: think he'll obviously bring that average up. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna linger around two thirty for very long. Um Now,
Speaker 1: obviously in Miley got have in my drift in first round,
Speaker 1: but the case don't hurt me. So he's still averaging
Speaker 1: four Fantasy points a game in my league, which is
Speaker 1: elite even hitting two thirty, so you know he could
Speaker 1: do everything else. It's just the average you're worried about
Speaker 1: right now, in like Rhodo leagues and leagues that don't
Speaker 1: that count strikeouts and the strikeouts. Forty seven strikeouts is
Speaker 1: ridiculous right now. That's a ton. He's gonna cut that
Speaker 1: down a little bit as the season goes on. So
Speaker 1: you expect a little bit of positive aggression here, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, more to the to the mean,
Speaker 1: because two thirties not what he's gonna end up bad.
Speaker 1: You know who's pretty damn good. That's right behind him, Greg.
Speaker 1: You haven't really talked about Reese Hoskins so far. This
Speaker 1: I meant to do it yesterday. I just didn't need
Speaker 1: five batting average dingers thirty two ribbies. He's gonna score runs.
Speaker 1: He's got twenty five runs scored because he has a
Speaker 1: six percent walk. Great. Look, that's why I talk about
Speaker 1: pitching to the Phillies lineup. I don't like starting pitchers
Speaker 1: against the Phillies because they're all patient, they're all gonna walk,
Speaker 1: They're gonna wait for you to give them a pitch
Speaker 1: of hit. And then when they get a pitch of hit.
Speaker 1: They all have the capability to hit bombs. Even sees
Speaker 1: her and his hit a home run, Yester, So they
Speaker 1: all have good eyes at the plate and and and
Speaker 1: it seems like anyone in this lineup can hit a
Speaker 1: hit a bomb at any point. So he's doing some
Speaker 1: nice things this year. Reese Hoskins. You know, he's always
Speaker 1: gonna hit a lot of fly balls. He's been among
Speaker 1: the league leaders in flyball rate the past three years
Speaker 1: since he's joined the league. And his hard hit rate
Speaker 1: is back up. Last year was thirty four and a
Speaker 1: half percent the year before that when he was a rookie,
Speaker 1: when he came in and took the league by storm.
Speaker 1: Venture this year, and you know what, I attribute that
Speaker 1: to actually playing first base full time. I think the
Speaker 1: fact that he had to play the outfield was weighing
Speaker 1: on him as a hitter last year because he's he's
Speaker 1: not an outfielder. He was a terrible feeler, so that
Speaker 1: was probably messing with like his confidence. He would be
Speaker 1: thinking about it when he's at the plate. Now he
Speaker 1: just comes on. He shows up every day. He knows
Speaker 1: where he's batting in the lineup, he knows he's playing
Speaker 1: first base. Doesn't have to worry about anything, and you're
Speaker 1: seeing the results after Hoskins love it, Yeah, you absolutely
Speaker 1: love it. I mean you can't ask for much more.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the thing he's got in too five,
Speaker 1: which is way more than you expected. Right now, that's
Speaker 1: gonna come down a little bit, Yeah, that'll come down.
Speaker 1: He's probably a two right um, But even last year
Speaker 1: to forty six, he's still had a great season with
Speaker 1: all the other numbers. You know what I'm saying, Ribbies
Speaker 1: is serious exactly. And you know at that time you
Speaker 1: weren't paying so much for him in drafts, uh, you
Speaker 1: know before that season and even where you're paying for
Speaker 1: him now, the guy is just that good. It's almost
Speaker 1: like it's such a young guy to say he's like
Speaker 1: a lock as a player, as this type of player
Speaker 1: that he is, you know what I mean, Like that
Speaker 1: two seventy thirty five Homer a guy. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's like a lock for that, Like I'm not worry
Speaker 1: about it, you know, and he's still so young. He's
Speaker 1: like twenty six, it's only the third full season. Really,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. So I think that keepers leagues. He's a keeper. Everything.
Speaker 1: He's He's completely did everything you've asked for him more
Speaker 1: right now to nothing five average, twenty w BP. Know
Speaker 1: the combine made to him last year before the season started,
Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo walks a ton. I think he's Anthony Rizzle
Speaker 1: with more power. Yeah, I think he's a forty home
Speaker 1: running Yeah. I think any Rizzle you might trust a
Speaker 1: little bit more. For batting average like two seventy eight,
Speaker 1: I would expect Reees Hoskins more like a two six
Speaker 1: to seventy hitter, So a little bit lower there, but
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna give you a little bit more
Speaker 1: power to the plate. Discipline very similar to rizzin walks
Speaker 1: a ton so and now now a little bit more power.
Speaker 1: Now in a really good line up, he'll walk even more.
Speaker 1: You know, by the end of the season, I probably
Speaker 1: have more walks than even he's ever had. He had
Speaker 1: eighty seven last year. We'll probably break that. Before you
Speaker 1: hit the break is one of the game I wanted
Speaker 1: to hit on before we talked to dr A. That
Speaker 1: was a Brewers Nationals game from yesterday. I read a
Speaker 1: article this morning Ken Rose and All Things Dave Martinez
Speaker 1: a big, big trouble um. But the reason I wanted
Speaker 1: to fourtine. It's twenty two that was our pick to
Speaker 1: will win the National League East. Uh, when I wanted
Speaker 1: to get into though the defense is horrible injuries that
Speaker 1: his fault is that David more Teena's fault. No, but
Speaker 1: supposedly also hasn't done a good job. I guess it's
Speaker 1: not mostly his job. It's not mostly his fault, but
Speaker 1: there are expectations there is. But the reason I bring
Speaker 1: this up isn't Christian Yellow Choice talked about hitting the
Speaker 1: home run yesterday, also stealing base. Isn't Ryan Brown who
Speaker 1: is still his third base. Brandon Woodruff jem six innings,
Speaker 1: four hits, one run, he sug got nine. That makes
Speaker 1: three consecutive starts guys where he's allowed just exactly one
Speaker 1: run and the other two he only went five innings.
Speaker 1: I recognized that, but three consecutive starts with just one
Speaker 1: run allowed. I know at the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: I was kind of in on him as as people
Speaker 1: like Ronan's were drafted. Should I be knowing Brandon wouldrroff Um.
Speaker 1: He stunk for a couple of starts, But there's last
Speaker 1: three stars. I know twice against the Mets once he's
Speaker 1: the Nationals. It's tough to you, nor Frank, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to go out there and grab went Brandon wouldroff
Speaker 1: right now if he's available seventy one percent owning CBS
Speaker 1: Lea's he's got a two star week next week, Greg,
Speaker 1: that would be at Philly again, I don't love that,
Speaker 1: but at Atlanta not as daunting. Ray's lineup that has
Speaker 1: been inconsistant thus far this season. But the number is
Speaker 1: really good on Brandon woodroff Man the underlying numbers. He's
Speaker 1: got a four to five year, a three point three
Speaker 1: to x fit over eleven case per nine swinging strike
Speaker 1: erate is ridiculous. This is basically what you were hoping
Speaker 1: that you would get out of Cordon Burns, except Brandon
Speaker 1: woodroff is actually doing it to start next week. Frank
Speaker 1: him to you a moment ago where they are, but
Speaker 1: they are next week two starts him and Peacock top
Speaker 1: two pitcher ads today. What's your sunny own though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a CBS. I've seen him out there. ESPN. Dr
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Speaker 1: You know. We got dr Ay who who's a Hawks
Speaker 1: fan who also want the first pick on on Tuesday night, Doc,
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're gonna be able to chat
Speaker 1: next third day, in all honesty, if the Hawks first
Speaker 1: back the next don't. Yeah, it's very unlikely that that happens.
Speaker 1: But if that happens, that's great, you know for us anyway,
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Speaker 1: that's just not treys Zion and John Collins. You know,
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about that later on. All right,
Speaker 1: fair enough, Tom. We wanted to talk, of course, injuries
Speaker 1: with you, and I wanted to start with some one
Speaker 1: of the flex My team naturally, and that's and that's
Speaker 1: Jamison tie On and in Tian out of nowhere has
Speaker 1: major elbow soreness, which goes for him to visit James
Speaker 1: Andrews goes to visit Dr David Altchick. And now I'm
Speaker 1: just like this guy, this guy's are not gonna pitch
Speaker 1: again this year, isn't he? This This is what I'm
Speaker 1: fearful of when it comes to Jameson ty On. Well, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a chance of that because of his previous Chommy
Speaker 1: John surgery uh in two thousand fourteen. Um, there's only
Speaker 1: one thing worse than Tommy John surgery recovery is getting
Speaker 1: a re injury in the same elbow at in the
Speaker 1: same body part and the same ligament, uh, having to
Speaker 1: do a revision Tommy John surgery. So there is a
Speaker 1: lot of concerned around this. However, UM, you know right
Speaker 1: now we're listing it as a grade to elbow injury,
Speaker 1: UH flexor and elbow flex or strain. A lot of
Speaker 1: times having to do obviously from a curve all standpoint
Speaker 1: um breaking pitch. UH, the torque that's required, Uh, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a counterclockwise standpoint for a right
Speaker 1: handed picture, and so um that on our books at
Speaker 1: six weeks optimalcovery time for grade two. Of course, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he had an m r I. We don't know
Speaker 1: the results of that m R I. However, based on
Speaker 1: indirect information, we think it's a great two. We don't
Speaker 1: think it elevates to a grade three because that would
Speaker 1: indicate a partial tear of the owner colateral ligament or
Speaker 1: something else tend at adformality, and that would put him
Speaker 1: basically end the season for the most part. Maybe you know, uh,
Speaker 1: September October time frame, but right now it's six weeks. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're looking at June fifteenth, is what our data is showing.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, any time before that is a
Speaker 1: big no no. So right now June fifteenth until we
Speaker 1: see the result of the m r I. Um uh
Speaker 1: in that in that respect, yeah, I get fifteen that
Speaker 1: he thrilled. Fifteenth beyond thrill. The've already said he shut
Speaker 1: down for four weeks. He's not going to touch a
Speaker 1: ball for you know, until the end of May, basically
Speaker 1: the beginning of June, and then maybe after that. See
Speaker 1: how your response to some throwing get him on a
Speaker 1: rehab assignment. I'm sure they're not going to rush him back.
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, mid to late June is
Speaker 1: probably the earliest at break probably regarding Jameson Town they
Speaker 1: have to be, you know, really passups when it comes
Speaker 1: to me, I don't I don't know. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of people have had a tougher road than Jameson Tyowne.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I give you guys some good news
Speaker 1: and then you can start, and then you you don't
Speaker 1: take the good news and you just kind of, you know, said,
Speaker 1: now he's gonna it's over. It's over. So you know,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that that using more breaking pitches might have
Speaker 1: contributed to this. He's actually throwing his slider thirty two
Speaker 1: percent of the time this year, Greg Um, and and
Speaker 1: he only threw eighteen percent of the time last year.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's part of what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: Using that increased usage of a breaking pitch might be
Speaker 1: what is actually affecting Jameson Tyne. Talking about you mentioned
Speaker 1: also Um the possibility of a torn U c L.
Speaker 1: Someone who has actually had a slightly torn UCL is
Speaker 1: David Price, who is now dealing with left elbow tendonitis. Now,
Speaker 1: doc Um, are these two things in conjunction with each other?
Speaker 1: Is he actually still dealing with some of some of
Speaker 1: the remnants of this partially torn U c L. Or
Speaker 1: is just tendonitis have nothing to do with it? How
Speaker 1: does this work with David Price? Yeah, so tendonitis is
Speaker 1: something different. Um, The U c L is a ligament,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, so there's a bunch of ligaments
Speaker 1: intrinsic within the elbow joint. The oln coladial ligament is
Speaker 1: the most important one from a stability standpoint. Tendons, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of tendons that stabilized the elbow as well.
Speaker 1: So this is a grade one elbow tendonitis. And so
Speaker 1: this is just a mile tendonitis, which is good for him,
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, as you know, you know David
Speaker 1: Price's history and his age and all of the multiple
Speaker 1: lengthy absences he had in seventeen due to the same
Speaker 1: elbow and elbow inflammation, all related to pitching, obviously a
Speaker 1: throwing elbow. And so good news is is that it's
Speaker 1: a grade one. It's not two three, which would definitely
Speaker 1: be a serious concern. The bad news is his his
Speaker 1: age and the amount of load that he's had on
Speaker 1: that arm and that elbow. That right now we're giving it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of the normal two week recovery time,
Speaker 1: we're going to attack on another week. It's really three
Speaker 1: weeks May twenty seven and possibly four weeks and going
Speaker 1: into early June. Right now, Oh, Greg, David Price strikes
Speaker 1: me as a guy who, once he returns, if he
Speaker 1: puts together a few starts, I'm shopping. Yeah, he's pitched
Speaker 1: really well this year. But based on what I just
Speaker 1: heard from Dr And I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean he's had a lot of wear
Speaker 1: and tear. He's obviously dealing with the Parsley torn U
Speaker 1: c L as well. So comes comes back put together
Speaker 1: a few good performances. I'm probably looking at shop David Price.
Speaker 1: David Price somebody that may not come back all that soon.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, even if he does, it's going
Speaker 1: to Frankie you want to get rid of them. Talking
Speaker 1: to Dr A from Inside Injuries Yankees, as Frank likes
Speaker 1: to say, whenever they get guy back, somebody has to
Speaker 1: be sacrificed. This weekend they got Fraser back and James
Speaker 1: Paxton was sacrificed. He has a knee issue. He's going
Speaker 1: to be throwing under today if there tomorrow and everybody cluing.
Speaker 1: Paxson says, listen, this is not a big deal. My
Speaker 1: my knee is a little bit inflamed. They blamed the
Speaker 1: mound at Yankee Stadium. Um, he says, he's fine. All
Speaker 1: seems well, it's not his arm, it's not his elbow
Speaker 1: and on his shoulder. They're all cautiously optimistic when it
Speaker 1: comes to James Paxton. Should fantasy owners be um? So
Speaker 1: he tweaked as m C like he's feeling like he's
Speaker 1: tweaking his MCL. The only way to do that is
Speaker 1: is is you know, sort of the forces on the
Speaker 1: knee when he puts that planned foot down is um,
Speaker 1: you know, not direct, and it's causing a little bit
Speaker 1: of an abnormal force on that m c L. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what he's saying, you know. So here's a list
Speaker 1: of his past injuries. Back stiffness, strained left pretoral, left
Speaker 1: forearm strain, left elbow contusion, and a strain left middle finger. Okay,
Speaker 1: and so that that's sort of a quick history of
Speaker 1: his injuries. This thing is a Grade one left knee.
Speaker 1: UM can be managed with pain management, so that's good.
Speaker 1: And then he's going to get a quarter's own injection
Speaker 1: and that's good. Um. Uh. You know obviously went under
Speaker 1: under one an m r I and the faery fact
Speaker 1: that they're only thinking that he's gonna miss one or
Speaker 1: two starts tells me and tells the data algorithm that, uh,
Speaker 1: this is probably not a tear of any sort and
Speaker 1: it's probably just some mild inflammation. Uh, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's probably listing it as grade one. UM. So right
Speaker 1: now we're looking at May the seventeenth for him to
Speaker 1: come back, which is not bad in that regard given
Speaker 1: all this previous injuries. UM. But guys, I want you
Speaker 1: to be cautious here because for pictetors, when they feel
Speaker 1: like something is not comfortable and it's causing a body
Speaker 1: part to hurt that is unexpected for them, there could
Speaker 1: be a compensatory effort to try to avoid doing something
Speaker 1: the way that you've been doing it for a long
Speaker 1: period of time. And don't be surprised if something like
Speaker 1: his back flares up again, or you know, there's another
Speaker 1: strain of the right hip let's say, you know, when
Speaker 1: he's pitching, So that's that's the that's why his injury
Speaker 1: risk is high still even when he comes back after
Speaker 1: two weeks um, you know, May seventeen. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: pictures can be very very you know, uh, sort of
Speaker 1: squarely that way, and they'll have these compensatory injuries that
Speaker 1: will sideline them for another two or four weeks here
Speaker 1: and there. And this isn't anything that we're not used
Speaker 1: to when it comes to James Packs. The Yankees knew
Speaker 1: what they were getting in him, a guy that hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to put together a full season because he's
Speaker 1: dealt with so many injuries. Fantasy owners knew what they
Speaker 1: were getting with Packs, and when he's on the field,
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the ten twelve best pitchers in fantasy.
Speaker 1: But it's just a matter of how much how much
Speaker 1: time is he going to miss throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the season, because it seems like he's always going to
Speaker 1: miss some time, kind of similarly to David Price. When
Speaker 1: he comes back, if he puts together with a few
Speaker 1: really good performances, maybe you try and flip him for
Speaker 1: a top ten fifteen starting pitcher who you know, it's
Speaker 1: more likely to be there later on in the season.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here with the Yankees. Doc, I
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be sacrificed next, but John
Speaker 1: Carlos Statin was someone that was sacrificed early on in
Speaker 1: the season. He was originally dealing with a bicep strain,
Speaker 1: and then when he was ready to come back, it
Speaker 1: turns out he's also dealing with some kind of shoulder
Speaker 1: thing that's going on. Now he gets a cortisone shot.
Speaker 1: But the Yankees and standing together have kind of been
Speaker 1: like a little like they just haven't really given us
Speaker 1: a ton of on this, Like they haven't given us
Speaker 1: a ton of updates. What is the algorithm saying on
Speaker 1: drunk Callo Stanton right now dealing uh with what he's
Speaker 1: dealing with and realistically when can we expect him back? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So this is this was a left shoulder strain grade
Speaker 1: two shoulder strain. Um, you know right now we had
Speaker 1: him coming back this week originally, but now we had
Speaker 1: to revise that because we feel like there's something else
Speaker 1: going on. Um. We got a little red flag in
Speaker 1: the algorithm today about Stanton and it was just you
Speaker 1: know where when we get something like that, um, we
Speaker 1: feel that there's something that the team is not yet revealed,
Speaker 1: uh you know to the public about Stanton. Um, And
Speaker 1: what we worry about is, uh that he's not ready
Speaker 1: and he requires a you know, uh you know sort
Speaker 1: of more rehab and more rest before he comes back.
Speaker 1: So what we normally expect when that happens that maybe
Speaker 1: the original injury was not a Grade two it was
Speaker 1: more of a Grade three in that instead of you
Speaker 1: know that being a um, you know, a six week
Speaker 1: sort of um, I'm sorry, at a two week or
Speaker 1: three week recovery time, it'll be more like a five
Speaker 1: to six week and sometimes seven week recovery time. So
Speaker 1: we're pretty concerned about Stanton at this point. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: right now he has his healthy to return was May seven,
Speaker 1: but now it's probably and looking like it's going to
Speaker 1: be more like June. Yeah, it's clearly it was, but
Speaker 1: it's no longer Bisons injury. When it comes to John
Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton, it's that shoulder that has given problems in
Speaker 1: the Would it surprise me based on what Doc just
Speaker 1: said to kind of put off like a light bulb
Speaker 1: in my head, he might be actually dealing with something
Speaker 1: even more serious than they're leading on because everything that
Speaker 1: like this shady. So it's shady. Shady is the word.
Speaker 1: Man Like they're not giving us updates and they're saying
Speaker 1: that he's gonna start hitting and then he's not. It's like,
Speaker 1: so it's a very weird situation going on with Stay
Speaker 1: and I think when we come back from break, Greg,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about and
Speaker 1: and what we should do with him right now if
Speaker 1: we're owners, because I do own him in two leagues,
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about that. No problems. Jean Carlos
Speaker 1: stan the Yankees has been very, very secretive and shady
Speaker 1: when it comes to this team when it comes to
Speaker 1: this injury, and that leaves some more questions and answers.
Speaker 1: At this point, let me complete the Yankee triffected doc
Speaker 1: when asking about Miguel and Door who's back? And I
Speaker 1: know you and Frank between back and forth, um a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago and and do ours mostly DH
Speaker 1: since coming back, he kind of play third base and error.
Speaker 1: But they said that those throws to first base weren't
Speaker 1: nearly as as hard as they have in the past.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was holding back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If the strength isn't all the way back, I don't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like he's tendative with his swing. You
Speaker 1: said and Hart needed to be out longer. Well he's back.
Speaker 1: How nervousoul Yankee fans and fantasy owners be the Miguel
Speaker 1: and do har won't regain his form anytime soon? Is
Speaker 1: this was in my opinion, from a data standpoint, this
Speaker 1: was a rush, like he shouldn't be on the field
Speaker 1: right now. There's zero reasons for him to be on
Speaker 1: the field right now because any slight tweak that can
Speaker 1: make that small label tear become a large label tear,
Speaker 1: and then a season's over and then the Yankees have
Speaker 1: uh sort of giving up that money that they're paying
Speaker 1: for him, and so um. The biggest thing here is
Speaker 1: that even though he's back, we strongly disagree. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that he should be back. I wish we could
Speaker 1: give them our data and then they could say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe we want this guy to really rest until May. Then,
Speaker 1: because that's when he should be back on the field,
Speaker 1: is May. It doesn't doesn't seem like a great situation
Speaker 1: going on from Miguel and hartn is only like two
Speaker 1: weeks away. Yeah, look, it's hard to tell that. Maybe
Speaker 1: all in all that needs you know, like if these
Speaker 1: label tears can heal pretty quickly, so if there's there,
Speaker 1: if there, if there's just two more weeks of rest um,
Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. Well, hopefully that you will
Speaker 1: then rest him. I guess yeah, I don't know. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens here. Doc. Let's let's move over to
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves here. Enough of this Yankee talk, Greg
Speaker 1: Max Freed was hit with a line drive the other
Speaker 1: day in his pitching hand says he's scheduled to make
Speaker 1: his next start. He he expects to do so, Um,
Speaker 1: X rays were negative. Is this something that can linger
Speaker 1: with him? What do you have going on with Max Freed? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Only psychologically. UM, you know, it's a great it's a
Speaker 1: it's a soft tissue hand conclusion, no fracture, um, nothing
Speaker 1: else is going on. So this optimal recovery time is
Speaker 1: really just one week, so he won't he shouldn't miss
Speaker 1: the start. For all intents and purposes, this particular injury
Speaker 1: won't really affect him on his next start. Some good news,
Speaker 1: Max Freed neot that to go awol to hear that
Speaker 1: go Max Freed saying the enemies it's gonna Stephen mats
Speaker 1: he has like a nerv issue. We read in his
Speaker 1: armors hands oho or something. What does that mean? Well,
Speaker 1: so foearm nerves issues. So the most common nerve issue
Speaker 1: in the forearm. Uh with baseball players and pictures, there's
Speaker 1: a syndrome called cubital tunnel syndrome. You guys can look
Speaker 1: it up. Uh it's um, you know, it's typically you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know, when you rest your elbow on the
Speaker 1: table for a while, you feel like you're you know,
Speaker 1: your fingers start to get numb sometimes if you're kind
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of resting your elbow in a
Speaker 1: certain way. I don't know, um uh, you know. So
Speaker 1: there's a nerve. There's the onner nerve that flows through
Speaker 1: this little tiny tunnel um through the elbow, and when
Speaker 1: you start to get spurring in that tunnel and that bone,
Speaker 1: it starts to compress that nerve and you start to
Speaker 1: get pain and numbness every timeime you you know, basically
Speaker 1: throw a baseball. So I don't know exactly, um, you
Speaker 1: know what the nerve issue is, but it's something like
Speaker 1: that where there's probably some impingement of a nerve that's
Speaker 1: causing you know, this issue, and really the only thing
Speaker 1: that will solve it is, you know, if it's not
Speaker 1: bad enough, I mean, if it's not that bad, then
Speaker 1: they'll inject the area, they will decrease the inflammation and
Speaker 1: some pain medication. You could probably play through. But if
Speaker 1: if the spurs are big enough, they will have to
Speaker 1: operate and do a clean up procedure and then he'll
Speaker 1: be out for another four to six weeks. In that regard,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if Matt's right, guys like he
Speaker 1: has been, you know, Tommy John surgery, flux or strain,
Speaker 1: season ending surgery, compressed nerve in the pitching elbow again. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, so we had this sort of in two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. So this looks like a the same problem
Speaker 1: just flaring up. He may need to actually have surgery
Speaker 1: again because remember they had to reposition a nerve in
Speaker 1: his pitching elbow in two thousand seventeen, so they may
Speaker 1: have to do it again. They may they may be
Speaker 1: scar tissue, they may be bone spurring, you know, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So if that happens, you won't see
Speaker 1: him for a while right now without the surgery. If
Speaker 1: you rest for two weeks, they can try him again
Speaker 1: with some pain medication and to see how he goes.
Speaker 1: But if he has another setback and he has pain
Speaker 1: and the same thing happens, don't be surprised to hear
Speaker 1: that they're gonna shut him down, uh for a long
Speaker 1: period of time and then he's going to consult to
Speaker 1: see if he get has to have surgery to reposition
Speaker 1: the nerve again. Dr right, we have about a minute
Speaker 1: left in You know, everyone on YouTube chat's kind of
Speaker 1: killing us. We have we have some names on here,
Speaker 1: um about long term guys were winning the response. But
Speaker 1: if you if you can, if you can't forget those guys,
Speaker 1: if you can, What did you see about Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: last night? Um, that's the big story obviously with with
Speaker 1: his injury. If if you didn't see it, all good.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you if you know anything
Speaker 1: about k d Well, it's a cap strain, right and
Speaker 1: basketball players, this is a very very classic you know
Speaker 1: these guys, these tall guys that can do point guard
Speaker 1: and be power forwards and shoot the three and do
Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff there. You know, when
Speaker 1: you're six ten, six eleven and trying to move all
Speaker 1: around the court, you're gonna have these strains. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's a grade one to grade two cap strain.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's the playoffs, so he's gonna try everything in
Speaker 1: his power to be back. But this is a highly
Speaker 1: recurrent injury and will hamper him in the next game
Speaker 1: because the optimum recovery time is a two week recovery
Speaker 1: time for this, so he will be playing banged up now.
Speaker 1: If he has enough pain medication and injections, he may
Speaker 1: be able to get through it. But the worst thing
Speaker 1: possible is for him to worsen this grade two to
Speaker 1: go to a grade three. So he's taking a big
Speaker 1: risk and it will impact him in the next game.
Speaker 1: And that's why our algorithm on the matchup on the
Speaker 1: spread is actually putting now um the Rockets to be
Speaker 1: favored in that matchup as opposed to not be right.
Speaker 1: So the Rockets heavy favorites at home in game six.
Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin Durant's injury. Durant should not be playing according
Speaker 1: to doctor a doc always well of information. We appreciate
Speaker 1: the time, good luck, and we'll talk to next week. Okay, guys,
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Speaker 1: we continue onting some stuff from last night. We wanted
Speaker 1: to still get into you wanted to mention something on
Speaker 1: Jean Carlos Stanton. Yes, I wanted to get your guys
Speaker 1: thoughts here because it seems like his season is kind
Speaker 1: of at a crossroads right now, and as a fantasy owner,
Speaker 1: you need to figure out what you and do with him.
Speaker 1: I realized that trading him now, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: back what were you drafted him If you drafted him
Speaker 1: in the second In my home league, I got him
Speaker 1: in the third round, So you're not gonna get back
Speaker 1: that saving value. But I will open this up to
Speaker 1: you guys. Do you think, based on what's going on
Speaker 1: and how shady, for lack of a better term, the
Speaker 1: Yankees have been with him, that this might just be
Speaker 1: a lost season for him? Do you trade him now
Speaker 1: while you can still get some value for him? Because
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I think it could go to two ways.
Speaker 1: He can either this could be something that lingers all
Speaker 1: season long, for him and he's just not the player
Speaker 1: we thought he was, or he comes back and he
Speaker 1: starts raking and he starts hitting home runs the way
Speaker 1: that we thought. But if it goes that route that
Speaker 1: I mentioned first the former, then you are going to
Speaker 1: want to trade him now while you can still get
Speaker 1: some value for him. So that's why the wheels started
Speaker 1: spinning in my head while I heard Doctor A talk
Speaker 1: about it. And I do think that the Yankees might
Speaker 1: be hiding something from everyone right now. Right do you
Speaker 1: try and trade Stanton now while he still has some value?
Speaker 1: This is tough. It is a tough situation. I have
Speaker 1: him in I have him in a home league where
Speaker 1: I could I could try and move him right now,
Speaker 1: and I think, what are you gonna get? So that's
Speaker 1: a good question. That's the can use pitching. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking if I could get a top twenty ish
Speaker 1: starter for Stanton right now, I think I would do it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what do you think, Craig? Who give your name?
Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty, Do you think you get Flowery for stating
Speaker 1: right now? Interesting? I don't think you get him. You
Speaker 1: do Walker Buller for him? I would take Walker Buller
Speaker 1: for him. Bueler guy, I think you'll have an easier
Speaker 1: time getting uh flowerty than Buller right now, though I
Speaker 1: think it's close. I mean yeah, like those are a
Speaker 1: fringe e like top twenty starting pitchers right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: this guy's more. He's like on the fringe like her
Speaker 1: Man Marquez. So don't forget about this. So in our
Speaker 1: in our pit league, the day of the Quark Luber injury,
Speaker 1: like that day earlier, Martino traded away, you're standing for Cluber.
Speaker 1: Or so we're traded away Cluber for Stanton standing in return, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it might just be a lost season for both,
Speaker 1: not be a wash, complete wash. And someone dropped close.
Speaker 1: I picked up you picked him up, which is very
Speaker 1: her Memorikiz, would you trade Stanting to get more kiss? No? Men?
Speaker 1: Tu would uh? Yeah? Your boy? Yeah? What about Beaver? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would trade him from Uber Atrick Corbyn, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like it's about Bump Garter No, no, no, Kershaw.
Speaker 1: I have to look at a Kershaw. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have been pretty good. Okay. I like that's that's the
Speaker 1: range that I might be looking at trying to trade
Speaker 1: Stanton right now, and it might turn out that we're
Speaker 1: we're wrong about this, but I don't know. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: for sure. It's a tough situation. That's why I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring it up. It's one that I'm currently battling
Speaker 1: myself as an owner. That's why there be other people
Speaker 1: that are thinking about it too. The problem with this
Speaker 1: is that one you paid a ton for him. You
Speaker 1: drafted him in either the first second round right second round,
Speaker 1: second round. Basically I might keep his leave. He was
Speaker 1: drifted in the first round, so it's a problem um.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is that he's had many
Speaker 1: injuries in the past that have affected him for you know,
Speaker 1: half the season longer. Sometimes he's had a case of injuries.
Speaker 1: I know some of them have been unlucky. I get
Speaker 1: hit in the face. But I think that if it's
Speaker 1: really that long, I think you should try to get
Speaker 1: something in return for him, because if he's out, you know,
Speaker 1: let's say for another two months. Doctor said it might
Speaker 1: be the middle of June, so that's about a month
Speaker 1: and a half. So let's say it's two months, right,
Speaker 1: expecting maybe the worst at that point. If your team's
Speaker 1: in trouble right now, if you're one in four, I
Speaker 1: think you gotta do something, because how is standing gonna
Speaker 1: help you within the next two months. You might be
Speaker 1: two and eight. If I lose this week, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be two and four and he's not helping me. He's
Speaker 1: not helping me on the on the bench. You know,
Speaker 1: this might be something that lingers all year for him.
Speaker 1: It might be something that even when he comes back.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who depends on power for his
Speaker 1: fantasy value, and now he's got a shoulder injury. Is
Speaker 1: he even gonna be the same when he comes back.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm posing this question. Now. There's a chance
Speaker 1: that he comes back and he's fine. It could go
Speaker 1: two different rounds. That's why I'm saying this. But if
Speaker 1: now is the time to act, if you want to
Speaker 1: try and trade him, because if something randomly comes out
Speaker 1: the next couple of days, all right, well he's gonna
Speaker 1: be shut down for another couple of weeks and his
Speaker 1: value drops even lower. So that's why it's a tough situations.
Speaker 1: I think I would try and sell him right now.
Speaker 1: I think it has to do with how your team
Speaker 1: is doing. No too, So if you're four and now,
Speaker 1: if you're playing road O and you're performing well, you
Speaker 1: can afford to wait on him. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of pressing a little bit because I'm about
Speaker 1: to be two and four and I need I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need to turn it around. I have freaking Daniel Murphy
Speaker 1: and David dal who don't play, and then I have
Speaker 1: Stanton who's not playing. Yeah, what am I doing? Everyone
Speaker 1: on my team? The riding the bench. We'll see. Maybe
Speaker 1: you end up three and three buys you a little
Speaker 1: more time, hopefully. Let's see what you Darvish does today.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's big. By the way, that the Boyd
Speaker 1: over Nola thing worked out, all right, they ended up
Speaker 1: basically with the same amount of points. Boyd, pretty good,
Speaker 1: boy did pretty well. What do you think, Craig, would
Speaker 1: you try and trade standing? So I so let's use
Speaker 1: GST asn example. We're standing in second league. Forget that
Speaker 1: example examples an example. It's a rotal league. We're in
Speaker 1: second place. We go back and forth in the first
Speaker 1: and second. Right now we have a good spot. We
Speaker 1: want to win. That's without Meadows too. Meadows also, I
Speaker 1: can't wait till he comes back Friday. I wouldn't trade
Speaker 1: standing there. If we could agree with that, we're all there.
Speaker 1: We are, and you get that. You essentially acquire a
Speaker 1: trade asset by getting standing back if he comes back. Now,
Speaker 1: am I nervous about being a lost season? Yes? I
Speaker 1: didn't see no signs like a surgery is coming or
Speaker 1: anything like that. We may have to wait shoulder. I
Speaker 1: mean like we're not getting any updates, Greg, not getting timelines.
Speaker 1: There's nothing. I know. The last thing I read and
Speaker 1: I'm just looking up you guys are talking, was you
Speaker 1: supposed to hit off a t earlier this week? Did
Speaker 1: you do that? No? So I saw yesterday that he
Speaker 1: was limited to soft toss. Yeah, like they were just
Speaker 1: tossing the balls and he was hidden. Is that worse
Speaker 1: than off the tap? You're better than off the tap? Well,
Speaker 1: the way the way that they phrase it was limited
Speaker 1: to soft toss, I took that as a negative connotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah it did. They did phrase it is limited to
Speaker 1: soft to us. Yeah, okay, then you got this what's
Speaker 1: going on the biceps. He's passed the bicep. Now he's
Speaker 1: got the shoulder. That's annoying. But I I overall, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it probably depends on where you stand. But
Speaker 1: if you're more of a pessimistic class half empty like me,
Speaker 1: and you worry about this might be a last season
Speaker 1: for Standing, then now might be the time to treat
Speaker 1: him before we get more news that he's dealing with
Speaker 1: something even major. If you're outtom of the league, team
Speaker 1: out there and you need you need something. Let's say
Speaker 1: you need some pitching, or maybe your outfield isn't shambles
Speaker 1: and Stanton's rotten on your i L trade him, trade Standing.
Speaker 1: You gotta make moves. If you're in bad shape in
Speaker 1: your league and you have a guy like that who
Speaker 1: might not be back for two months, you can't just
Speaker 1: expect it to turn around on its own. You gotta
Speaker 1: turn it around right right. You gotta make moves. But
Speaker 1: some people are in a luxurious position with the four
Speaker 1: and always something, and you know you could wait. You
Speaker 1: can afford to wait, I think in your case, or
Speaker 1: if you drafted like you know Greg Florial myself so well.
Speaker 1: So it looks like I just rather report that you
Speaker 1: read and he was limited to soft house and the
Speaker 1: tea he's both of them. Um, it looks like ain't come.
Speaker 1: I hate no, and Buster Posey just went on the
Speaker 1: I L with a concussion to Greg that's sad. If
Speaker 1: you listen to me, I told people not to draft. No,
Speaker 1: I know they don't want to him. Yeah you did obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone's dealing with something, Greg, and it's only May nine.
Speaker 1: We do we do? Indeed? All right, let's move on
Speaker 1: and to go back to some of the baseball from
Speaker 1: yesterday's guys. And I wanted to get into what Kyle
Speaker 1: Hendricks did against my Annie was joking with Ricky Sanders
Speaker 1: about him during a Van duel. And only did was
Speaker 1: go eight innings a lout of one. Roun struck out
Speaker 1: seven against the Marlins. But Marlins, and it comes with
Speaker 1: extras anyway, I believe, right, Yeah, I think Madden messed
Speaker 1: this one up. What would you mad? What pled them? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he pulled them. It was after eight innings.
Speaker 1: But um, he was doing fine, he was cruising, I mean,
Speaker 1: but the relief of blew It Ryan comes in blows it. Well.
Speaker 1: They said there's be a closer by a committee with
Speaker 1: the page of stroke now on the I l and
Speaker 1: Steve C. Shack Um. Well that basically you're right. Ryan
Speaker 1: Blewett came in and the final blow was was against
Speaker 1: Steve C. Shock Um. But Kyle Ryan obviously could not
Speaker 1: get the job done. In the nine eight. Hendricks already
Speaker 1: at nineties six pitches, who's in the ranio. Pitch actually
Speaker 1: very very well for Miami, going seven in five hitch.
Speaker 1: It's two runs, walking three, uh, striking out three. The
Speaker 1: Cubs came back to win it anyway, thanks for a
Speaker 1: Jason Heyward bomb in the eleventh. Kyle Hendricks last two stars.
Speaker 1: That would be seventeen endings pitch, zero earned runs, zero walks,
Speaker 1: only ten strikeouts. Standard Kyle Hendricks, I mean, I love it. Though,
Speaker 1: performs well against the Marlins is exactly what you're expecting.
Speaker 1: Didn't expect it against the Cardinals the last time out,
Speaker 1: where he goes a complete game shout out and he
Speaker 1: pitched like ninety pitches in a nine ending start, only
Speaker 1: allows four hits but only has three strikeouts. So you
Speaker 1: know what you're getting with Kyle Hendricks. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: some You're gonna get some really good performances like these
Speaker 1: past two. But then look at what he did against Arizona.
Speaker 1: Shot was ten hits, seven earned runs, So I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a little bit of inconsistency. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna strike anyone out. He's a soft tosser.
Speaker 1: He doesn't walk anyone either, which makes things better. The
Speaker 1: past couple of years when when he really broke out,
Speaker 1: he was helped by a really low babbit because he
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal defense behind him. Now, the Cumes defenses,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. It's getting better. It's not as good
Speaker 1: as it has been in years past. You know Schwarber
Speaker 1: out there, and yeah, I don't know if David Bodie
Speaker 1: is a good feeler, to be honest, but he's been
Speaker 1: playing more. Um so it seems like the defense isn't
Speaker 1: gonna hold up his numbers as good as they have
Speaker 1: been in years past. I drafted Cole Dricks last year.
Speaker 1: I owned him in a points league. It seemed like
Speaker 1: he was really inconsistent, really maddening to watch. Um, he's
Speaker 1: gonna give you quality starts, but overall just not a
Speaker 1: fun picture to own. Man, do you really have that?
Speaker 1: I know he could get shelled because of how Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the great thing about him is that is
Speaker 1: this like these last two starts, he realistically could have
Speaker 1: went nine this game too. Would you have nine pitches? Yes?
Speaker 1: So he could have went nine, right, So nine innings,
Speaker 1: back to back games, complete game shutouts like that's what
Speaker 1: he could give you. And in a points league, you know,
Speaker 1: that's like forty points like that because the complete game
Speaker 1: you get extra points for you know, certain leagues. So
Speaker 1: because of how d P could go on games, because
Speaker 1: he pitches to contact and doesn't throw a lot of pitches,
Speaker 1: I think that adds value to him. Man, And I
Speaker 1: honestly maybe I overrate him, but I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the better, you know, better guys to have that
Speaker 1: doesn't usually k a ton of people. Uh but you know,
Speaker 1: to go that deep, not walk anybody. The whip is
Speaker 1: law everything, you know what I mean. The only thing
Speaker 1: you have to worry about is that he's just not
Speaker 1: kying a ton of people when once in a while
Speaker 1: he does. He does have a lot of caves. We
Speaker 1: had a Liven caves against someone I don't think the
Speaker 1: first So I I like that. I know that he's inconsistent.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he can can get blown up, but he's a
Speaker 1: valuable starter to have in your He's an SP three
Speaker 1: or four to me. Let's look at his game log.
Speaker 1: I mean that tells you everything you need to know
Speaker 1: about him eight innings, eight shutout endings last night nine innings,
Speaker 1: complete game, shutoutst time out against the Cardinals. The time
Speaker 1: before that against the Diamondbacks five innings, seven earned runs,
Speaker 1: the time before that seven eleven ks. Then it was
Speaker 1: only five innings three runs against the Angels or endings
Speaker 1: four earned runs against the Brewers first start of the season,
Speaker 1: or in the third innings seven runs, two earned. Look
Speaker 1: at his splits, because it looks like on the road
Speaker 1: he's a lot more. He's a lot worse on the road,
Speaker 1: a lot worse. Well, his bad starts on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that might be something, but that that just
Speaker 1: goes back to the inconsistency. It just again, just look
Speaker 1: at his game log. This is who he is. He's
Speaker 1: gonna give you some really good performances. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: other ones where he gets blown up. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I owned him last year. Really frustrating picture to own it,
Speaker 1: but those really good performances are beyond good too. Do
Speaker 1: you want any Kyle Hendricks is here, gregy f No,
Speaker 1: I not want to do that. You know what I
Speaker 1: argued with Florio before the season was I arguing for
Speaker 1: almost been pretty good yea, and he knows something we don't.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get Andrew bennin tendi at off yang.
Speaker 1: I don't seem, I don't seem. I mean Hendricks is
Speaker 1: having the better season right now. Don't say that. Well,
Speaker 1: come on, he just anyings again. Last night you mentioned
Speaker 1: that boyd venture. We went six in one run ball
Speaker 1: and walk anybody. He struck out six. He's obviously has
Speaker 1: been awesome, picked up another win. He's a steel and
Speaker 1: Tyler Scaggs not nearly as good. We trusted Tyler Scags
Speaker 1: till we didn't trust Tyler s Gags anymore, going four
Speaker 1: and two thirds eight hits, eight runs, seven earned. Surprised
Speaker 1: I didn't have him in my lineup game team with
Speaker 1: Bower and mcke Yeah. Yeah, what a great team. That
Speaker 1: would have been the only reason if we get this game.
Speaker 1: It's for two two players, one on each team. A man.
Speaker 1: Ronny Rodriguez continues to dominate Frank let's go man. Picked
Speaker 1: him up in y'ah who this guy has every eligibility
Speaker 1: except catcher. He's amazing. Can't jump on board with this
Speaker 1: first outfield. I picked him up in a head to
Speaker 1: head League head to head Daily lineups with that kind
Speaker 1: of versatility, Greg, He's gold three hits yesterday he was
Speaker 1: a home run short of the cycle. Or Ribby's he
Speaker 1: was batting fifth? Come on good? Or is he just
Speaker 1: getting lucky? He's hitting three? I know? But who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Dudez if it's a guy I've never heard
Speaker 1: of and not a prospect, top prospect that I know,
Speaker 1: come on up? Who is he? He's a top prospect
Speaker 1: now and I'm making him a top I get prospect,
Speaker 1: top player. How about this venture hard hit rate us interest.
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn good ball rate and at nine percent
Speaker 1: line drive rate. All right, I'll buy him fifteen teamers.
Speaker 1: Well you know what, I picked him up in a
Speaker 1: fourteen team head to head. Do we get him last week? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's up. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just punched my hands. Secondation.
Speaker 1: In the other game, we talked about him a wild back.
Speaker 1: The lineup now, Greg, today, you punch my hands. David
Speaker 1: Fletcher hatting over three for the Angels, three homers, three RB.
Speaker 1: I know it's limited, but interesting, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: we spoke about him either the last year, two weeks
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, Yeah, he said he was like a
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil light, good batting average, still doesn't do a
Speaker 1: ton It's crazy. It's like Jeff McNeil is like a
Speaker 1: Daniel Murphy light, and then David Fletcher is like Jeff
Speaker 1: McNeil light, which he's like pretty. He's like a really
Speaker 1: really homeless version of human. Two minutes to two minutes ago,
Speaker 1: just a couple of things left that I want to mention.
Speaker 1: I was watching the Yankee game and I saw the
Speaker 1: COUCHI like stuff on his hat cares like everyone does
Speaker 1: it you're at the bar game, but so inside so
Speaker 1: we had pints are inside inside his cat like a
Speaker 1: crack ton of it, and every and everyone makes fun
Speaker 1: of Michael Pinata on the Yankees. But why do you
Speaker 1: have to do It's so blatant though it wasn't his
Speaker 1: under his cap, I know, but you said it was
Speaker 1: a ton of it, like camera's called also Start also
Speaker 1: started by Kyli Gibson. Starts in six days in a
Speaker 1: run eleven strike gas Inter College Gibson. I want to
Speaker 1: thank Brad Ziegler for joining us. I want to thank
Speaker 1: Dry as well, and of course everybody downstairs for all
Speaker 1: their help. For Chris Ventcher, Frank Staffeld I am grank, Susan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching, listening, and the fantasy
Speaker 1: best friends Forever. We'll do it all again tomorrow, we hope.