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California from the 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: California Office of Traffic Safety and Caltrans. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: Hey, Daniel, do you ever wish you could be in 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: one place at one moment and then be in a 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: totally different place the next moment? 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, since I live in southern California, I'm definitely often 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: stuck in traffic and want to get somewhere faster. But 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: are you talking about getting like a Lamborghini uber? 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like an instant uber insta uber. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, be myself across town instead of having to sit 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: on the four or five. That would be wonderful. 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I imagine a lot of the people 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: listening to this podcast are listening to it in their cars, 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: maybe subway, or while walking to work or walking to class. 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: All those intermediate times right, otherwise wasted if you weren't 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: listening to such an awesome podcast. 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, we were helping you not waste time. 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great if could just pop over from 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: one place and the other. 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: That would be wonderful. Do you think that's even possible? 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. You're the physicist. Tell me is do 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: you think something like that is possible or do you 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: think there ever will be possible? 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Listen to this episode and you'll find out. Hi. I'm 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Jorhem and I'm Daniel. 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: And this is Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe, where. 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: We explain everything in the universe and outside of the. 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: Universe, the impossible and the possible. 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: The universe, the multiverse, the single Verse, the Nonaverse. 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: Every Verse, the uber Verse, the Lift Verse, the Verse Verse. 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Today we're talking about whether or not something is impossible. 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: It's technology that everybody wants. At least everybody who's out 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: there sitting in traffic or is wasted time in an 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: elevator or climbing upstairs, has wanted to get somewhere faster. 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: Is it possible to get somewhere instantaneously? 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Is teleportation actually possible? 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: So, as usual, before we dive into this question and 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: try to answer whether or not this incredible idea from 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: science fiction could actually be science one day we went 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: out we asked people on the street, do you think 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: teleportation is possible? 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: Here's what they had to say. 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: My gut says yes, there's a physical lot of prevents it, 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: so maybe no, sorry, all right. 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: No, that seems far fetched to me, even far in the. 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: Future, even now. I think people are already coming up 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: with ideas of it. But I just think that people 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: are keeping it hidden and maybe secretive and fear of 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: other countries or companies or other people just monetizing it 72 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: before they do or something. 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: So what do you think of people's answers? Hee? 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: So nobody seems to think that it's possible. 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, people seem to think like, wow, that's too far 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: for even science to get to. 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: I like the one that said that, I'm sure somebody's 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: working on it, but they don't want to tell anybody. 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I know that person has watched too many movies where 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: the scientists are really smart and also evil scientists. And 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: I've noticed this trend. By the way, excuse me for 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: a digression of a rant. Then in recent movies, scientists 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 1: are always evil. There's no good science characters. They're always 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: like out for the pursuit of knowledge, you know, regardless 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: of the consequences, and they just have to know this 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: is a great opportunity, and I really want to develop 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: this technology no matter what harm comes to humanity. And 88 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: that frustrates me because you know, as scientists, we're out 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: there trying to help people out, trying to improve the world. 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: We're not just here to make weapons. They certainly think 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: highly of themselves and their laptotes and classes. 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder where that stereotype came from, Daniel. 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. All the scientists I know are very humble. 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: We're all excellent at being humble. There's no hubres here. 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: All the awesome scientists and me and my friends are 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: We're all very humble. 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: But you know, there is a complex relationship between scientists 98 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: and science fiction or you know, the public in general, 99 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: or the public thinks things like oh I wish we 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: could have you know, transponders, or we could talk into 101 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: a little thing, or flying cars or the internet, televisions 102 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: or the internet. Yeah, a lot of these things came 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: out of either popular imagination or science fiction, and then 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: scientists picked it up and said, well, let's see, maybe 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: that is possible. Let's try to make it work. Right. 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Have you seen those YouTube videos where somebody actually made 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: like a real working Ironman suit? Oh my god, have 108 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: you seen those? 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: No, that sounds terrifying. 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: This guy is wrapped like little turbine engines to his back, 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: to his arms, to his legs, and he's like literally 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: flying around. 113 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Well in the movies, that totally changes the balance of 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: power in the world and has massive geopolitical consequences. 115 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: And also rescues Robert downind Junior's acting career. 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, but often when scientists come up with 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: this technology, it does have consequences, right, It does change 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: the way society functions, and it changes the way politics work, 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: and certainly when you develop a new kind of weapon, right, yeah, 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: and the ideas for those weapons can change the way 121 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: the world works. So it's it's fun to think about 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: how ideas come from the public and then end up 123 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: in science and then go back and change the way 124 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: society works. So sometimes people think of stuff and we 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: can actually make it happen. 126 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: Well, I would say probably teleportation is right up there 127 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: with flying. Like, if they could get one superpower, most 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: people would pick flying or teleportation. 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Laser eyes. Come on, man, it be laser eyes everybody wants. 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: Is that really practical? 131 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: Though? 132 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: Your looks could kill? 133 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, we're talking about superpowers, not about practical stuff here, Jorge. 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was walking to school the other 135 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: day with my son, and he's like he asked me, like, 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: which superpower would you like to have? And I was like, oh, 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: I would love to fly, and he's like, I want 138 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: to teleport. He said that, so I can be it's 139 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: cool right now? 140 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you offer him laser eyes? I mean, do 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you understand that's on the menu. I think we need 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: to go back and make sure he's fully informed. 143 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, time travel is probably another popular one, so 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: I could go back and ask him. 145 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: See, but there's a big difference between flying and teleportation. 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: The difference is that you can see other things flying. 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: It's obvious why flying is something you want to do. 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: You see birds fly all the time. It looks awesome, right, 149 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: But teleportation is a weird one because you've never seen 150 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: anything teleport. Nobody's ever seen anything teleport. Where does the 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: idea for it even come from? Right? Why is it 152 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: that we can imagine these things that could be impossible. 153 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: Because they did it in movies, right, movies and TV shows. 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: It's super easy to fake teleportation, you just cut right. 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: But that's the opposite, right, They portrayed it in TV 156 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: shows and in movies. After somebody had the idea maybe 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: this could be possible, right, that's the depiction of it. 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: But where does the idea come from? I always think 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: it's fascinating when as humans we think of a concept 160 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: which is impossible, Right, We think of an idea which 161 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: is it can only exist in the abstract, you know 162 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: that we've never actually seen. It's come from inside our 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: own heads. 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: My theory is that this idea of teleportation came directly 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: from laziness. So I'm pretty sure there was some you know, 166 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: cavemn or cave woman sitting around and they're like, man, 167 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 3: I'm really hungry. I need to go to that tree 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: to eat, but I'm really lazy. I wish I so 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: wish I could just be there without having to make 170 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: the effort to walk there, you know. 171 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I see. So teleportation is to laziness the way time 172 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: travel is to procrastination, right, Yeah, Like, oh, I wish 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I could go back in time and do this sooner 174 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: or something. 175 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I think it's very natural right to 176 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: imagine yourself just being there without having to expand effort 177 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: to get there. 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: It's totally unnatural. It doesn't exist in nature at all. 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: There's no natural example. I mean, maybe it's understandable, but 180 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: it's like them some weird extreme version of flying or something. Anyway, 181 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating. I actually did a bit of 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: reading to figure out, like, when did teleportation first appear 183 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: in science fiction or in literature this kind of stuff? 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: What did you find? 185 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Oh, it's ancient, you know, it's I don't know if 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: it goes all the way back to Caveman, but it appears, 187 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, in Greek mythology and all sorts of stuff, 188 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: people appearing here and disappearing there. And so it's an old, old, 189 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: old idea. It's basically magic, right, it's basically magic. He 190 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: snaps her finger and they're gone. That's right. So science 191 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: has had five thousand years to work on this idea. 192 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Where have we gotten. 193 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: We've got we've got handheld little powerful computers. We have 194 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: flying cars. 195 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, you have a flying car. 196 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: Where is the teleportation? Daniel, come on, and I come over. 197 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Where is this flying car? I want to hear about? Yeah, 198 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: so is teleportation actually possible? It depends a little bit 199 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: on what you mean by teleportation, right, So let's get 200 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: a little bit technical, Like if by teleportation you mean 201 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: take me my physical body and all the atoms that 202 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: make me up. Have we disappear and reappear somewhere else 203 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: that we can pretty clearly rule out. That breaks a 204 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: bunch of laws of physics, Like what do you mean, well, 205 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: if I'm going to disappear from here, then where are 206 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: my atoms going? Right? Like, the energy from those atoms 207 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: can't just disappear. There's no physical process that makes somebody disappear, 208 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: capture their energy and move it somewhere else. 209 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: But is it impossible or is it just very unlikely? 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: It's impossible. Yeah, you can't move energy or mass from 211 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: one place to another instantaneously, not even at the speed 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: of light. 213 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: But maybe you know, I was thinking, like, if you're 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: just one single particle, and there's a certain uncertainty about you, 215 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: isn't there Like you can be here one instant and 216 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: you can be somewhere else in another instant, Right, So 217 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: why couldn't that apply to a whole bunch of particles 218 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: all at the same time. One minute they're here and 219 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: then the next moment there's somewhere else. 220 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: That's true, and that can happen, But that's not really teleportation, right. 221 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Teleportition says you're here, and that's very definitive, and then 222 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: you're there, and that's very definitive. What you're talking about 223 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: is I don't really know where you are now, and 224 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: then I don't really know where you are later. That's 225 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: not exactly teleportition. That's like if you wanted to, you know, say, oh, 226 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I want to go across town, and you wanted to 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: use Heisenberg's and certainly principle, you'd be like, well, we're 228 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: not really sure where we're gonna get you. You're gonna 229 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: be somewhere near the four or five, but we can't 230 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: really tell you. And then you end up in traffic 231 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and you're dead, and then this lawsuits and it doesn't end. 232 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, I have another idea. Okay, what if because 233 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: quantum particles can just appear out of nothing, right. 234 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: Not just out of nothing, They can energy from the 235 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: vacuum can get turned into particles right of the mass. Yeah. 236 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the converse is true, like particles can just disappear. 237 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. 238 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: So isn't there in the infinity of probability the chance 239 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: that all of my molecules could suddenly disappear and all 240 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: of them could suddenly appear somewhere else in the same 241 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: exact order. 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Would they be the same molecules? We're talking about the 243 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: same physical particles that make you up disappearing and appearing 244 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: somewhere else, right, those same molecules. Actual teleportation of the 245 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: stuff that makes up poor Hey, Yeah, that I think 246 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: is impossible. But you raise an interesting question, which is, like, 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: what is teleportation? What if we could disassemble you and 248 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: they rebuild you somewhere else out of other particles that 249 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: were in that other location you want to go to 250 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Alpha Centauri. There are electrons over there, there are protons 251 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: over there, there are neutrons over there. We can make 252 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: you out of that stuff over there if we just 253 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: know what the recipe is for Jorge, Right. 254 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: Like, if my molecules are here now and they're in 255 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: powers the next moment, how do we know they're the 256 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: same molecule? Yeah, exactly, Like molecules don't have little IDs 257 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: on them, right. 258 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: They certainly don't. Right, All electrons are identical. You can't 259 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: tell one from another. 260 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: Wow. 261 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: And as you say, particles are disappearing and appearing all 262 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the time, So it's not even really well defined a 263 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: question to say, like what is the stuff that makes 264 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: up me? You know, these particles are me so in 265 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: that sense, teleportation is really just the transformation to the 266 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: arrangement of the particles. You know, you can think about 267 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: the thing that you about you is the arrangement of 268 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: the particles. I mean, I was thinking about this the 269 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: other day, like, you know, if you are out there, 270 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: you're the listener you weigh. I don't know seventy kilos, right. 271 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. I can't do the math. 272 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: It's a flattering number for us, yeah, it spelt right, Yeah, 273 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 5: our listeners are really good looking. Anyways, say this is 274 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: this seventy kilos of you? Okay, Now, what is the 275 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: recipe for making you? 276 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Well? It's protons, neutrons, and electrons, and the recipe is 277 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: actually pretty simple. It's one to one to one the 278 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: same number of protons and neutrons and electrons to make 279 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: up poorhe Now, what's the recipe for making up seventy 280 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: kilograms of ice cream? Well, it's still one to one 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: to one protons, neutrons, and electrons. It's just differently arranged. 282 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: Unless it's radioactive ice cream. 283 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: That's right, unless it's really far off the isotopic heavy 284 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: ice cream. But heavy ice cream But basically, the difference 285 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: between Jorge and a big pile of ice cream is 286 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: just the arrangement of those particles. 287 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: Right, So what you're saying is, like, what makes me 288 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: me is my arrangement of molecules, not the actual molecules. 289 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: It's sort of a philosophically bold thing to say, but yeah, 290 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: basically that's the only difference between you and ice scream 291 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: is a bit of tweaking. 292 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Oh so, when we're talking about teleportation, you're really people 293 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: are really wondering if it's possible to send my current arrangement, 294 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: have that arrangement a peer somewhere. 295 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: Else sort of? I mean, that'd be a bit of 296 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: a heart sell though. I mean, what if I told you, hey, 297 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: or hey, I'm going to chop you up in little 298 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: bits and remake you somewhere else, all right, You'd wonder, 299 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: h are you killing me and then creating me? And 300 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: is that really the same as teleporting me? Is that 301 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: really what you want or what you want to say? Smooth, 302 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: continuous experience. You want the experience of traveling somewhere with 303 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: minus the traveling, Right, you. 304 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: Mean, like my current arrangement in my brain of all 305 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: my neurons and all the thoughts process. You want that frozen, 306 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: and then you want that to peer somewhere else so 307 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: that your thoughts are sort of continuous. 308 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: That's right. I think you want a continuous conscious experience. Right. 309 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: You want to get in the teleportation box, press the button, 310 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and then get out of the teleportation box on Alpha Centauri, 311 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: or in the valley or in Saint Louis or whatever, 312 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: and be there. I don't think you want to get 313 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: and the telepretation box, press the button and die and 314 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: then be born somewhere else. 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Would that new reassembled Joge 379 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: version two think it's the same Joge? Would it know 380 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: that's been reassembled that. I don't think we know enough 381 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: about consciousness to know, But boy, that would that be 382 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: a fascinating experiment. 383 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: Right, So you're saying that physical teleportation is impossible, Like me, myself, 384 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: the exact molecules that make up me right now, making 385 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: them appear somewhere else is impossible. But you're saying, maybe 386 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: we can recreate the arrangement somewhere else, and then you 387 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: get into all these philosophical questions about whether that's really 388 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: mean or my consciousness is continued news. But that's one 389 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: way you see teleportation being possible is if you recreate 390 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: my arrangement somewhere else. 391 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: That's the only way I see it being possible. Yeah, okay, 392 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: because the physical teleportation of objects, as far as I understand, 393 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: is totally impossible. Even the person we interviewed on the 394 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: street who believes that somewhere there's a scientist who's figured 395 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: it out and is looking to make money off of it. Sorry, 396 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that part is actually impossible. But you know 397 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: the second bit, it's pretty good, right beaming the information 398 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: and recreating you. That could work. That could really accomplish 399 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: what we want. 400 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: Hmm, well let's think about that. So, like if you 401 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: were to tell me, hey, or I'm going to deconstruct you, 402 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: save you to a hard drive or a flask drive, 403 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: drive that using an UPS truck to the other side 404 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: of town, you know, insort the USB thing. 405 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, if we're going to put you 406 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: in traffic anyway, what was the point just climbing the 407 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: UPS track core? Hey? Seriously, Now the idea is decode 408 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: you into information, beam you across on a laser beam 409 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: or the internet least, right, so it's really fast, and 410 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: then rebuild you somewhere else. 411 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's one way till importation would be possible. 412 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: But then that's the crazy thing to reconstruct the exact 413 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: state of all of my atoms and molecules and neurons. 414 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: What sort of technology would you need. You need like 415 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: a crazy three D printer. 416 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you certainly would. But let's do the particle physics 417 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: approach to this. Let's say, let's figure out how to 418 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: do it first for one particle, and then for two particles, 419 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: and then try to generalize to however any particles make 420 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: up a person or a hamster, Because if it's not 421 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: possible for a single particle, then it definitely won't be 422 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: possible for a whole person. But if it is possible 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: for a single particle, then it's just sort of an 424 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: engineering question for how to do it for lots of particles. 425 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So, and you're talking about beaming the information down 426 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: to the quantum state, right, that's important. It's not just 427 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: like I have an atom of carbon here in my hand. 428 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: Let's just make a carbon atom over there. You're talking 429 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: about the actual exact quantum state of that carbon atom. 430 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: That's right. We're talking about copying a person or a 431 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: cat or a hamster or whatever. We want to capture 432 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: everything about it. We want to get every atom, every 433 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: molecule exactly correct, because we don't know which bits are important. Right, 434 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Maybe the thing that makes you you is in some 435 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: particular arrangement of sodium atoms in your brain. And if 436 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: we say, ah, whatever, we'll just put some sodium in 437 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: there in the right mixture. We don't really care where 438 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: it is or what the quantum state is, then we 439 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: might get a different hte right, if one. 440 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Is funnier or grumpier, Yeah, saltier. 441 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: Exact, spicier exactly. And so we want to get it 442 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: exact right. We want to perfect copies. 443 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: Okay, is it possible to take the one particle with 444 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: all its quantum state copy that somewhere else? 445 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: So that is possible, and that has actually been done, right, 446 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: People have teleported information about particles across more than a 447 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: thousand kilometers. They've teleported it up into a satellite in 448 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: space and back. I'm going to say something which sounds 449 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: incorrect and then I'm gonna tell you what it means. 450 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: We can teleport single particles. 451 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: We can teleport the information about it exactly. 452 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: We can say I have an electron over here, let 453 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: me capture all the information about that electron that I 454 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: need to get another electron over there to be in 455 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: exactly the same quantum state as you say, which means 456 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: it's a perfect copy, right, because electrons are all the same. 457 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: There's no difference between electron number one and electron number two. 458 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: There's no difference between electrons. If I get an electron 459 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: over there to be an exactly the same quantum state 460 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: as it was over here, then I can say I've 461 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: teleported that electron. 462 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: You copied it, you created an identical copy somewhere else. 463 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: It's not a copy. I've teleported it. And the reason 464 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: it's not a copy is that you can't copy a 465 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: quantum state. In capturing the information you need to recreate it, 466 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: you destroy that state. So you can't copy. You can 467 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: only transfer. Oh what, Yeah, So if you want to 468 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: teleport an electron from here across your living room, you 469 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: have to give up that first electron. There's no backup copies. 470 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: And so if you're thinking, hey, teleportation is a great 471 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: way to make multiple copies of my life. You know, 472 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: I can get all so much work done because I 473 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: can make ten versions of me, and I can do 474 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: ten comic strips at a time. It doesn't work because 475 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: copying the information also destroys the original. 476 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: But it destroys it not like it disappears, it just 477 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: it collapses the quantum information. 478 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: It changes it. And exactly, if the definition of being 479 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: you is this arrangement of quantum states of all the 480 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: particles in your body, then it changes those states in 481 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: a way that's no longer you. Right, Oh, I see. 482 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: So when you hear the words quantum teleportation, it actually 483 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you teleport something using quantum technology. It 484 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: means that you teleport it the quantum information. 485 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Exactly. Information is sent using classical technology. You can get 486 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: it on a thumb drive, you can use a laser, 487 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: you can use a telegraph. But you're teleporting the information 488 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: about a quantum particle. Because we're all made to quantum particles. 489 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: So you want to teleport me, you better teleport all 490 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: my quantum particles with all their quantum information. 491 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: And quantum information is different than regular information like one 492 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: and zeros because it's just quantum weird stuff. 493 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Right, that's right. It follows totally different rules. Right, there's 494 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: uncertainty you can know this and not that it can 495 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: be yeah, and that uncertainty is maintained. 496 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: I feel like physicists pulled a fast one on the 497 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: public there. You know, they call it quantum teleportation. That's like, 498 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: that's like, that's like telling people, hey, we can do 499 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: teleportation if we use quantum stuff. But it's really just 500 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: teleportation of quantum. 501 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: Stuff, right, and everything is quantum, so it's really just te. 502 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: I think you're trying to pull a fast one on 503 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: us again. 504 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: But you know, let's make it concrete, like people thinking, oh, 505 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: what does this mean to be an electron? Like, instead 506 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: of an electron, think of like a little black bag 507 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: that has some marbles in it and you don't know 508 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: what the colors are, right, So, because there's always something 509 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: hidden about a quantum particle. So you know, say that 510 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: your electron is a bag of marbles and you don't 511 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: know how many blues and how many reds are in there. 512 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Teleporting the electron means creating another bag in another place 513 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: that has the same probabilities of red marbles and blue 514 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: marbles in it, inside of it, inside of it. Yeah, 515 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: so you want to capture the uncertainty of that quantum 516 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: particle and recreate that uncertainty. Somebody out there is thinking, oh, 517 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: but you can't measure everything about a particle and then 518 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: copy it. The quantum mechanics says you can't. You're right, 519 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: quantum mechanics says you can't. You can't measure the speed 520 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: and position of a particle and recreate it somewhere else. 521 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: That's impossible, and that's not what you want. What you 522 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: want to do is copy the uncertainty of the particle 523 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: and copy that uncertainty somewhere else. 524 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: So like a random electron that I have here and 525 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: a random electron you have over there, they have different uncertainties. 526 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Well okay. 527 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: So then the goal is, like, how do I make 528 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: my electron have the same uncertainty as your electron over there? 529 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: Because you can't just like, look at uncertainty. If I 530 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: look at the uncertainty, it's no longer uncertain that's right. 531 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: If you open Shirtinger's box, you find out if the 532 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: cat is dead or alive. That's not what you want. 533 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: If you have a box with a cat in it 534 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: that has a seventy percent chance of being alive, and 535 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: you want to teleport that box. What you want to 536 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: do is create another box somewhere else with the same 537 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: chance of being alive or dead. You don't want to 538 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: open the box and say, oh, it's dead, build a 539 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: dead cat over there, right, That's not what you want 540 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: to do. Want to transport the same unopened box with 541 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: the same uncertainties. 542 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, we're all sure that Inger's box. But 543 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: what makes me unique is the probability that the cat's 544 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: going to be alive than inside of my box. And 545 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: to cosy myself over there, it means I have to 546 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: create a box over there with the exact same probability 547 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: as my box. The Daniel box is different than the 548 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: Whohe box. 549 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: That's right, different dead cats inside Daniel. Right, that's the 550 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: way to sum up which you just say. There, And 551 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: so that's what quantum teleportation of a single particle means, right, 552 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: And how you do it is pretty tricky and counterintuitive. 553 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: You can't use classical ideas to do it because it's 554 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: not a classical thing, right, And I want to talk 555 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: about that some more, But first let's take a quick break. 556 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: When you pop a piece of cheese into your mouth 557 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: or enjoy a rich spoonful of Greek yogurt, you're probably 558 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: not thinking about the environmental impact of each and every bite, 559 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: But the people in the dairy industry are. 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Visit the Explorer Card 591 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 7: dot com to apply today. Cards issued by JP Morgan 592 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 7: Chase Bank NA Member FDIC subject to credit approval. Offer 593 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 7: subject to change apply. 594 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so describe the experiment. What's the one you said 595 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: they'd beam to space in back. 596 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the way you do it is you use 597 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: something called quantum entanglement. Right, And as we said before, 598 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: particles can have uncertainty, right to say, you know, electron 599 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: is a seventy percent chance of being this and a 600 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: thirty percent chance of being that. Right, And so what 601 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: you want to do is transfer that unf information, that 602 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: uncertainty somewhere else. And the way you do it is 603 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: by entangling two particles. Entangling means that the particles are related, right, 604 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: like that the probabilities for them to be one thing 605 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: or the other are connected to each other. Say, for example, 606 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: you only have one red marble and one blue marble, 607 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: and you don't look at them, but you put them 608 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: in different bags. Now, if you look in one bag 609 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: and you see it's red, you know instantaneously the other 610 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: one has to be blue. Right, Or if you looked 611 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: in your one bag and it was blue, the other 612 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: one has to be red. So these two bags are 613 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: entangled because you know there's only one red and one blue. 614 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: Because you created a process that ties them together, Like 615 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: you created a rule that says if this one's red, 616 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: then the one has to be blue. That's what you 617 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: mean by entanglement exactly. 618 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: That's right. So now say you have one red marble 619 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: one blue marble. You don't look at them, but you 620 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: put them in different bags. You take one to China, right, 621 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: and one you leave here in the US. You know 622 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: instantaneously something about the one in China, even if it's 623 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: really really far away. 624 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: So like you, you know before I know what's in 625 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: my bag. 626 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, and it doesn't matter how far away 627 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: I am. Right, instantly, I know you're thinking, all right, 628 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: but it was either red or blue the whole time, right, 629 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: it's just about what you know. That's true for the marbles. 630 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: But in the case of quantum particles, they exist in 631 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: these superposition of states, which means that they're either red 632 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: or blue, or they're red and blue. Whether they're actually 633 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: red or blue is not determined until you open the bag. 634 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: It's Schrodinger's cat, right, it's both live and dead with 635 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: some probability. And so in the quantum version of this, 636 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: when you open your bag and you see the quantum 637 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: blue ball, it was either red or blue until the 638 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: moment you opened the bag. And then it became blue. 639 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: The other bag, which is now in China, really really 640 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: far away, was also either red or blue. But then 641 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: when you opened the bag in the US and found 642 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: that it had a blue ball, the one in China 643 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: had to be red, and so it went from being 644 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe both to only being red. And so that's quantum entanglement. Right. 645 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: You have the probability of these things, and then they 646 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: collapse when you look at one of them, which also 647 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: collapses the other one, which is really really far away. 648 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: Essentially the way it works, without getting too technical a mathy. 649 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: Now that one thing you should know about quant mechanics 650 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: is it's always math because it doesn't make any sense. Okay, 651 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: it just doesn't make sense. Like you can't use logic, 652 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: you can't use your intuition, you can't use common sense 653 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: to think about quantum mechanics because it doesn't follow common sense. 654 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: It only follows the math. 655 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: You want to apport the worhe cat bogs to China, 656 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: you would take two cat boxes, entangle them, ship one 657 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: of them to China, and then then do something to them. 658 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Right, that's right. Whatever the thing is that you want 659 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: to teleport, you put that in the box with a 660 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: cat Okay, you have to entangle that with your set 661 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: of entangled part of us oh okay, yeah, and that 662 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: will cause some information to be transmitted to the other box. 663 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: So you learn something about the local cat box, and 664 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that tells you what you have to do to the 665 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: other cat box to create the state that you want. 666 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: Oh so I need like a courier cat box that 667 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: maybe talks to my catbox in a quantum way, and 668 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: then you send that to China, and then you interact 669 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: that one with the other cat box, and suddenly the 670 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: original cat boxes are the same quantum mechanically exactly. 671 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: And there's a critical step there, which is you have 672 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: to send the information to China because it's not instantaneous. Right, 673 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: These two objects, these quantum entangled objects are connected via entanglement, 674 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: and the entanglement does collapse instantaneously when you interact with one. 675 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: But in order to do the teleportation to recreate the 676 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: original state that you want in another place, you have 677 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: to send information about what happened with your entanglement over there, okay, right, 678 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: And so that sending of information can't happen it happened instantaneously. 679 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: You beam it with lasers or you send it via 680 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: pony express, you do something to get that information over there. 681 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: You're still limited to the speed of light. So even 682 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: though quantum teleportation is possible, I mean, you can transmit 683 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the information necessarily to recreate a quantum states somewhere else, 684 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: you can't do it faster than the speed of light, Okay, 685 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: which is disappointing. 686 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: So we'll never have instantaneous teleportation. It's still limited by 687 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: the speed of light. 688 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: Still limited by the speed of light. 689 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: Wow, even if we had teleportation, it would still be 690 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: the slow at speed. 691 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Of light, that's right, which is, you know, a lot 692 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: faster than LA traffic, but it would still take a 693 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: long time to get to a neighboring star system. Right, 694 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: So teleportation solves your traffic problem and your laziness problem, 695 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: but doesn't solve the problem of trying to get to 696 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: the stars faster. And then the question is like, what 697 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: is it like to be you? Why you are a 698 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: beamed information? Right? We talked about the experience of consciousness. Right, 699 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: So you get in the box, you press the button, 700 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: we decompose, you entangle you, et cetera, et cetera, and 701 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: get the information needed to send you to a faraway place, 702 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: but that still takes millennia, right, What is that like? 703 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: Are you do you experienced feel lightheaded? Do you still 704 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: make puns even though you're on board this ship? Maybe 705 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: you make quantum puns, which are sort of funny enough. 706 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: At the same time it usually kills a cat. 707 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: Always kills the cat. And the other thing is, you 708 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: know you need something over there to receive it. So 709 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: you want to teleport things to Alpha Centauri, you have 710 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: to build a receiving station with quantum entangled particles over there, 711 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: and that. 712 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: You need a phone booth over there exactly. 713 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: So somebody's got to get there the old fashioned way 714 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: first and build like a teleportation receiving station before you 715 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: can go there. 716 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: So we'll never have a Star Trek beam like in 717 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: the movies. 718 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were. I was never really clear on that 719 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: because in Star Trek they need to be in the 720 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: train transportal room to get beamed, but they can get 721 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: beam too anywhere, yeah, right, or from anywhere. So why 722 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: can't they beam from one place to another place without 723 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: using the transporter room as an intermediate I never understood that. 724 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: Well, then Scotty would be out of the job, that's. 725 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: Right, probably because that would fix too many of them. 726 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So for our listeners sitting in traffic or in 727 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: the subway or board at work listening to this, unfortunately, 728 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: they might never teleport. 729 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's I think we should 730 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: summarize that it is possible. My summary of that is 731 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: it's possible for non faster than light teleportation of individual particles. 732 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: That's been done. It's been done over great distances and 733 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: over more and more complicated objects. The first thing they 734 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: did was a photon, and then an electron. Now they've 735 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: done like an entire atom. Really, so now the question is, yeah, 736 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: the question is how much can you do right to 737 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: do this kind of teleportation, To have the quantum state 738 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: of an object entangled with something else. That's possible for 739 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: tiny quantum objects like particles. It's harder to imagine how 740 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: it might work for you know, a hamster or a person. 741 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's impossible. There's no physical lossing you 742 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: can't do this, but it just sounds extraordinarily complicated and 743 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: would require massive amounts of energy. 744 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I usually told my son when 745 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 3: he tells me he would love to teleport, I always 746 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: tell him that teleportation is possible. It just kind of 747 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: depends on your state of mind. You know, like this morning, 748 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: I just teleported from Louisville, Kentucky. You know, technically, I 749 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 3: walked into this giant metal box, sat down, I did 750 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: what I usually did, which was sleep right on my 751 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: emails on my computer, watch some TV. And then the 752 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 3: next thing I knew, I was in Los Angeles. You know, 753 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: like if you just kind of shift your mental state, 754 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: teleportation is kind of possible. 755 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: You're saying, if you're not really aware of your surroundings, 756 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: then it feels a lot like teleportation. 757 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just kind of reorder the re ordered 758 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: the sequence of events in your head. 759 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: That sounds like a typical dad answer. Was he as 760 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: satisfied with that at all? 761 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 3: He's eight years old. 762 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: Nothing you say is as well. 763 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 3: But you know, in a way, it's sort of it 764 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: just kind of depends on your point of view. You know, 765 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: like if you were sitting in traffic while you were 766 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 3: listening to us, you know, you were engaging what we 767 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: were saying, and then suddenly you were in a different place. 768 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: So in a way, I feel like tellt protation at 769 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: least kind of mentally as possible. 770 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: That's maybe the lesson to you folks out there sitting 771 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: on the four or five, or you know, taking a 772 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: long walk. Maybe you can use this podcast to teleport 773 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: yourself from one place to the other, so you don't 774 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: notice the experience of your actual travel. You just get 775 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: in press play, listen to two hilarious dudes talking about science, 776 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're at your destination. 777 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not wasted time if you don't waste it. 778 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: That's right. Well, I'm going to go out and halt 779 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: my teleportation research program now because you've solved the problem. 780 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we saved a lot of cats. 781 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so until that day when teleportation becomes an 782 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: option for you to zip across the valley, I hope 783 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: you can just enjoy listening to our podcasts. 784 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you so much for listening to this. 785 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 3: I hope you get to your destination in a timely manner. 786 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: If you still have a question after listening to all 787 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: these explanations, please drop us a line. We'd love to 788 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: hear from you. 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