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Speaker 1: he listed all of his transgressions, not all of it.

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Speaker 1: He would have needed a lot more space on Twitter

429
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: to list him all, but he put all those things

430
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: out there he did, including throwing rocks at a delivery

431
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: guy which cost him money, and then having that quote

432
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: about the Beatles and Jesus. He's getting a lot of run,

433
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: as most of the stuff involving him does. But give me,

434
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: give me Josh Gordon over Antonio Brown any day of

435
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: the week. John McLean joining us. It's a Thursday night,

436
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: and that's why we have him on Thursday Night. Fun. Hey,

437
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross down in Miami. Obviously he's been in the

438
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: news a lot, and I guess now he's not going

439
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: to pass the team over to Bruce Beale like he

440
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: originally intended. Is there a mess brewing down there allow

441
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos as far as ownership and the handing

442
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: off of the franchise from one person to another. Well

443
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: that's a good thing because the other guy's been suspended

444
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: too from from doing some stuff. And then he's the

445
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: one that was really close with Brady. So I let

446
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Speaker 1: her read a long profile of Ross and all the

447
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: things he has done in his career to help minorities,

448
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: and underprivileged, and then it was all going great for

449
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: him till he hosted a fundraiser for Trump, and his

450
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: players spoke out and said, he's talking out of both

451
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: sides of his mouth. But he really did a lot

452
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: of good things and put in hundreds of millions of dollars.

453
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: And you know, an owner who gets spanked by the

454
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: commissioners not going to want that to be the last

455
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Speaker 1: thing people think about him. So I'm sure he'll do

456
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Speaker 1: his time. I think any like eighty two years old

457
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: something like that, he'll do his time and then come back.

458
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: And his team has made so many changes, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: even though he wanted Brady over too, he wanted Watson

460
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: over to. Now he wants Justin Herbert over to. And

461
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: but you know, he wants to see how this is

462
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: going to play out with a new coach. And I

463
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: think they're going to be a very interesting team. And

464
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: there's not make players under more pressure than to a

465
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: tongue Aboutloa. The tiring Hill is called the most accurate

466
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. After you know, to have watched

467
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: just games and games and games a tape of the

468
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Speaker 1: tongue about Aloha to make a claim like that all right.

469
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Speaker 1: So I've been super busy getting ready for the opener,

470
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: like we all have. I just saw a tweet and

471
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Speaker 1: I just now I lost it, but it was Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brady has been miserable at training camp. I mean,

473
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we believe this or not. And

474
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: he's taken a little like a few days off personal reasons.

475
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't want to speculate,

476
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: but you don't think that it could possibly be something like, oh,

477
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm just not feeling it let anymore. I don't know.

478
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I'm just asking at some point it's

479
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: going to happen, or maybe just retiring from training camp.

480
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Like the General retired from the Chronicle, he's doing everything else.

481
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: He just retired from the chronicle. Brady retiring from training

482
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: can sol Brady will do the games from the radio booth. No,

483
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: he won't, because he's gonna be on Fox eventually. Anyway,

484
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: go on General. The first thing I when I saw that,

485
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: I thought family problem. His mother's battle cancer. His parents

486
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: are in their seventies. You never know what's going on

487
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: with his kids and his wife. I don't think he'd

488
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: just take a vacation to go hang out on a

489
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: yacht in the middle of camp. Brady is a competitive guy.

490
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: He is all about perfection and it starts in practice.

491
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think people are speculating he wanted to

492
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Speaker 1: take a vacation, whether he had the whole off season

493
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: to take a vacation. And you have to be careful

494
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: about making jokes about it because you never know when

495
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: it could be serious. Now, Jason liked the GM said

496
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: they've known about this since Brady came back, and they

497
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: got a lot of other issues bigger than this, and

498
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: he'll be back now. Todd Bowles, the first year coach

499
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: who took over for Broce Arians, he was more cryptic,

500
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: saying they expecting back for the first game. So usually

501
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: something like this that you know everybody in the country

502
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: is going to be talking about, you would say what

503
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: it is. And that's why I wonder if it's some

504
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of health to show you hope it's not. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: All right, General, We appreciate the time as always, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to hearing you tomorrow afternoon with the guys,

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00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Ron and Clint. I'll be there and then I will

508
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: be on the pregame show Saturday night before the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much. All right, thank you General.

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Speaker 1: When you hear the General on the pregame show, it's

511
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Speaker 1: odd baby. Let's go seven o'clock Saturday night. Looking forward

512
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Speaker 1: Texans Radio to be able to take it to that

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525
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: studio at NRG with the team about the practice in

526
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the bowl. Do a little games of simulation stuff. Oh

527
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: wait a second, what does that mean that I get

528
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: to catch up with Lovey during halftime of practice. Oh

529
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Speaker 1: you don't. He doesn't want to practice that. He feels

530
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: like that's gonna go very smoothly no matter what. Cool

531
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: with that, all right, I know you'd like to, but

532
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: they're just in case they want to do a true

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Speaker 1: simulation a halftime. It would be true that way. By

534
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, they tested all the equipment today. The

535
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: radio gears working great. I know the whole audience was

536
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: hanging on the edge of their seats for that information.

537
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: An audience of one sitting over here, giants leading the Patriots.

538
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Three nothing Titans are playing the Ravens tonight. I don't

539
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: think they've kicked off yet. And here is little action

540
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: with the Patriots in the red zone. And Hoyer just

541
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: made a nice throw. He also made an iffy throw.

542
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: Let's play who's better? Johnny? You ready, I'm ready? Who's

543
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the better backup? Right now? Hoyer or Dalton? Dalton from Rhadhouse,

544
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: who we will see on Saturday night, Andy Dalton. However,

545
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: I will say this about Brian Hoyer. Undrafted. This is

546
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: year number fourteen in the league. Fourteen. Imagine collecting backup

547
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: money for fourteen years. Started you know here in twenty

548
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: fifteen started for the Browns in that year in twenty fourteen,

549
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: and was really kind of the Browns going in the

550
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: right directions till the Texas to Ryan Mall, it came

551
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: to town, and then it just went sideways from from

552
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: that situation. It was such a compelling afternoon. We had

553
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: to put them together the following year. Right work out

554
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: as well as planned, although you did go to the playoffs,

555
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: but you did it largely without them. Yeah, I think

556
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would be the would be the guy we'll

557
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: see Saturday night. I mean, Howyer's still slinging. I mean

558
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: he used to do a really nice deep ball to

559
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkinson, wide receiver for the Patriots. But Howyer's got

560
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: that power. Pat have always said that you always knew

561
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: when he was throwing the ball because right before he

562
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: threw it, he get that last tick. Oh yeah, Oh,

563
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: he totally does. But fourteen years in the league. But

564
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Andy Dalton, Okay, who's better? In terms

565
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: of the more surprising retirement, Andrew Luck third quarter of

566
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: the preseason game in twenty nineteen, the third preseason game,

567
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: so it was a second half of the third preseason game,

568
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: or if Brady decides to retire right now. He left

569
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Speaker 1: Bucks Camp personal reasons. Hope everything's okay health wise, of course,

570
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: but a lot of people are speculating. So I'm just

571
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. If it happens more surprising retirement,

572
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: what Luck did or what Brady might do. Luck totally

573
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: because because because Luck was coming off a year in

574
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen that he lit everybody up, and it really

575
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: started against us in that Week four game. He through

576
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: its sixty two times. Now they went back and they

577
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: balanced things out, and I think that's what helped him.

578
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: But he had his I think his best statistical year

579
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. And if you listen to the to

580
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: the Luck podcast Zach Keifer put together for the Athletic

581
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: it's very very good. But it was this caff injury.

582
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: It was like this weird caff injury. Nobody could really

583
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: kind of get a handle on it. And he just

584
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: was like, I've had enough. I got to you know

585
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: what beat out of me for years. I'm tired of rehabbing.

586
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm done. But because he was coming off such a

587
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: great year, now Brady would have been coming off a

588
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: great year in twenty twenty one, statistically he was outstanding.

589
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: It was like, statistically he was great fan test and

590
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: once he decided to come back, he figured, all right,

591
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: this is it. But he had retired kinda so when

592
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Speaker 1: he came back. I've always been out of a mindset

593
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Speaker 1: that if you if you quit once, it makes it

594
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Speaker 1: easier to quit again. And I should say you used

595
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: to work quit but interesting, I always think it's easier

596
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Speaker 1: to do that. And I'm not saying that he's doing that,

597
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: but Gizelle has been after him for years years six

598
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Speaker 1: she landed him, Oh you meant something else? Yeah, no, Yeah,

599
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: she's been after him to stop playing from okay, So

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Speaker 1: who knows what what impact she has, what whether And

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00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: that was the first thing I thought of, was wondering

602
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: whether Brady's mom was okay. That was the first thing.

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00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I thought, she's because she had been dealing with cancer.

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: She was she had cancer to twenty sixteen season. I

605
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: believe it was well, I hope she's okay, right exactly,

606
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: And that was that was my That was my thought.

607
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: But Brady strikes me and has always struck me as

608
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: come hell or high water, he is there with his

609
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: guys in training, camp, in practice, whatever you name it.

610
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: The only reason that he didn't go apparently the offseason

611
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: to the Patriots the last couple of years he was

612
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: there was he's trying to make that thing all work

613
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: out financially all that. Now he gets the Tampa Bay.

614
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he's at thoughts of, well, maybe

615
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: I should have done this, I got the forty five.

616
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he's feeling it. Who knows, who knows what he's

617
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: going through right now. But more surprising still would be

618
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Okay, who's better? Harder place to play? Foxborough

619
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Speaker 1: or Arrowhead? And I'm gonna go Foxborough five years ago,

620
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: not now Foxboro. I mean, Arrowhead is crazy loud, but

621
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Speaker 1: there's just there's so just something weird about that place.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've gone to Arrowhead and played well, I

623
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Speaker 1: mean twenty nineteen the regular season game we went and

624
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Speaker 1: then I mean for six quarters of the twenty nineteen

625
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Speaker 1: season seven no, no, I should say five quarters in

626
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Speaker 1: four minutes. We dominated those fools. Yeah, we dominated them,

627
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: but it was over the last you know, two quarter,

628
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: two and three quarters to score more than one more touchdown. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: Foxboro has just never worked out. They just never worked

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: run the Chiefs went on. It was fifty one to seven. Yeah, okay,

631
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Speaker 1: I'll stop him there. But yeah, but regular season game,

632
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: they possessed the ball. The Texans possessed the ball for

633
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: over thirty nine minutes. It feels like going to Arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: Going to Arrowhead, I've always felt confident and going to Arrowhead,

635
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and we've been there in the regular season. For me,

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Speaker 1: I've only been there in regular season nineteen the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But I just felt like there was not quite that

638
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: aura of going to Arrowhead as there was going to Foxborough.

639
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Like it's the haunted house on the hill Man when

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Speaker 1: you pull up to that place, especially for a prime timer,

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Speaker 1: and the fog missed and screaming action an accent, it's

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: awful that forget it. Okay, Foxborough? All right, that's that's

643
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: a good answer. I mean, now Head is very tough,

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Speaker 1: but I'll take it. Johnny, all right, how did the

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: Patriots get their touchdown? By the way, Hoyer through two?

646
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: This is why we need h McLane. He threw to

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Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton, the speedy rookie from out of Baylor. He

648
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: tried to Yer trying to plane was pooh pooing the

649
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: free season. No Hoyer tried to hit Thornton on a

650
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: deep ball and as I'm watching and watching the corner,

651
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: just hang on for dear life against Thornton because he

652
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: ran four two, three or four to one at the combine.

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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: Just absolutely can smoke. Here's the thing. They have Max

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00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: thrown in the ball. I mean tonight's Toyer, but they

655
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: have Mac. Max's not known for the the strong arm.

656
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not his that's not his thing. But

657
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: that's a guy they'll be able to stretch fields with,

658
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: for sure. But quarterbacks have got to understand how to

659
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: throw that guy like it's a three step and you

660
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: let it go like there's no padding it, there's no

661
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: time you throw it, and you throw it to a

662
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: spot you don't think he can get to because that

663
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: guy can run and get it. He's explosively fast. So

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Speaker 1: he got a touch on the back of the end zone.

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00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Patriots up seven three. All right, So NFL network is

666
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: pumping this Rolling Stones documentary as if Charlie Watts is

667
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: still alive. He's not alive. It's on empics. Okay, anyway,

668
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: who's better last one here? This is a pure speculative situation.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to both stadiums this year, one of

670
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: the preseason one of the regular season. What's the better

671
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: stadium in your predictive mind, so Far or a Legion,

672
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: So the Rams home or the Raiders home, Which is

673
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Speaker 1: the better stadium? Do you think? I watched I'm gonna

674
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: call them documentaries, but I called I watched features on

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00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: the on how both of them were constructed, and I

676
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: just really into like what those stadiums are gonna be

677
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: and how they were gonna look and in all that

678
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I was in. So they're really neat things about both

679
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: of them. But I think so Far, if it's hot

680
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: in La, which it could be it's hot in LA,

681
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: it might be hot inside because I don't believe they

682
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: didn't build that thing where they see what it's like.

683
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: The mezzanine level is wide open, so the so the

684
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: breeze goes through. Yeah, I'm not joking. It's it's gonna

685
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: be when it's when it's rough weather. There's an opportunity

686
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: for so Far too. But I'm gonna say Allegiant because

687
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: it's the Raiders. Everything's silver and black. It's just it's

688
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: screams and NFL history. It's Vegas. But they've got the

689
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: torch um that I think is really cool because they

690
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: celebrate the history of Al Davis and the Raiders, and

691
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: that's just NFL history to me. I'm most excited to

692
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: go so Far, but it's not so much about so

693
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: Far as it is just Los Angeles. But I think

694
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Speaker 1: I'm more excited to see Allegiance because it's the Raiders. Okay,

695
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: high of eighty seven next Friday, low of sixty eight

696
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: should be. Okay, eighty seven in LA is kind of warm, though,

697
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's salty. They will be mad about that.

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00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Los angel Los Angeleans. All right, we'll see how it goes.

699
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Speaker 1: Another bit of speculative work you have to do next,

700
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Speaker 1: and that is imagining how a certain quarterback who could

701
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: be and should be and really is on the market

702
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: would do in a certain place if they need them.

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00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Was that vague enough? Yes, we'll set that up for

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten all day long, all night long, wherever

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Speaker 1: and all your ticket information that you need as well.

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Speaker 1: It's really something that should be surgically attached to your body,

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Speaker 1: not the app. I guess, just your phone, which is anyway,

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Speaker 1: and you just go into the app and you live

721
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: your life anyway. Johnny, So, there was a report that Cleveland,

722
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: if they needed to, would pursue Garoppolo. Maybe how about

723
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: that for me in vague? Would that be a good

724
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: idea for them? I just want to know how that

725
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: fit would be. So Jimmy g playing near Lake Erie,

726
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so not a Cleveland type guy you

727
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: would think, but he did go to Eastern Illinois. Did

728
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: he dealt with he dealt with elements while yeah there,

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Speaker 1: I think you would be fine Okay, I think Jimmy

730
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: would be fine in that offense. But I mean fine,

731
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Speaker 1: I mean he would be uh, he'd be a good

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00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: burger and fries, all right, the burger fries is good.

733
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's not gonna be It's not like steak. Yeah, yeah,

734
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Speaker 1: it's not a gourmet burger. He got me thinking about food. Oh,

735
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: I know, he's talking about all the food and the

736
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: brisket and the cooking Dad asking for steaks through the window.

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00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: That scene, I gotta say, I wanted to just stop

738
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the interview right there and say, listen, I gotta reflect

739
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: on this for a moment. Bob McNair calling out the window, Hey,

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Speaker 1: put out a couple of steaks. And you know, it

741
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: made me miss him, and a lot of things make

742
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: me miss him because he was so compelling and he

743
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: was wonderful that he always just brightened up a room

744
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and just made you feel great when you saw him

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00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: down the hallway. You know, there are two games anywhere.

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: We were talking about that the other day. In environments,

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00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, energy and we always think of the loud

748
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: and tents and all that kind of stuff. A couple

749
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: of games that we forget. Number one is the Monday

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Speaker 1: night game, the one that Lamar went ninety seven the

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00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: weekend after mister McNair had passed away. That night was

752
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: hugely emotional. It was it was a tough building to

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Speaker 1: be in, but the way the guys responded that night

754
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: and just celebrating his life and what he did for

755
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: the city of Houston was incredible. But the next year

756
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: on Founder's Day against the Falcons, we put up fifty

757
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: three and it was just it was really fun to

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00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: watch all day, just really going to at it and

759
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: of course celebrating his life at halftime was Those environments

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00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: were different because there was so much emotion involved in

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00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: that because of what mister McNair and obviously Missus McNair

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00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: brought to sit brought back to the city of Houston.

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00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: Obviously wood what the McNair family carries forward. But those

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00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: two nights were boy, wow, that Falcons came. I mean

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: both games there's pressure to win. You have so much

766
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: more pressure than usual to win. And with the Titans,

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: what was the deficit, Johnny was a ten nothing or

768
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: something like ten nothing. Taylor Luan was taunting the crowd

769
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: over by the Southwest Tunnel and then all of a sudden,

770
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: the Texans open a cannon you know what on him,

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00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: and that was it. And it was Lamar with the

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00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: ninety seven yard run just came out of nowhere. It

773
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: just a handoff from your three. That could be a

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00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: two yard game. And okay, all right, load up? Second down?

775
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: Was it second down or the first time whatever? First down?

776
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: It was the first down play. DT had a couple

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00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. And you want to talk about something that

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00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: I was not expecting. You don't expect anybody to go

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00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: ninety seven. But your call is the best though. Your

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00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: call is my favorite call. Over your call and I

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00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: and I feel bad. I never heard I never heard it.

782
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it. Originally I was celebra I was

783
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: running down to the other end because there was ninety

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00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: seven yards I could get down it for the extra

785
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: point and all that. I didn't hear it until I'm

786
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: putting a replay together the next day and I hear

787
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: the call, and I I got this lump in my throat,

788
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: like oh man, And I mean I had to stop

789
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: for two minutes because I'm just like holy smokes. Because

790
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: I knew how emotional that game was. And to Mary's Thomas,

791
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: that was his first game. There was a lot going

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00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: on at night. That was to Mary's Thomas's first game

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00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: for the Texans at home at home because we played

794
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: at Denver. That was his first one at home. That

795
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: was That was why I was. That was that was

796
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: a great winning street. Anyway, this year starts preseason. Why

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Speaker 1: Saturday night at seven. We'll have a show tomorrow so

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00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll have a little Lovey Smith for you Andre where visits.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun to get you

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Speaker 1: ready on Game Day eve as the Texans take on

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Speaker 1: the Saints Saturday night. Tickets at Houston Texans dot com

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Speaker 1: and the Texans App. Thank you very much Chris for producing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Cal mcnarrin for being on, John mcclaim

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Speaker 1: for being on. Thank you, Johnny. Have a great night

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