1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: My next guests are Twins, Hustlers, Media, Maven's Balls, Ladies, 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: and as All Magazine called them, Power Twins. One is 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, innovative marketer, and revenue producing executive who has 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: spent the last two decades at the intersection of marketing, branding, tech, media, 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and entertainment. Her sister is a two time Emmy Award 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: winning television producer. As am I a two time Emmy 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Award winning television producer. But what I am not is 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: the VP of Branded Entertainment and Media Innovation at CBS 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Television Network. That is her. They're on the show to 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: day to talk about their new book, which I've read 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: so fast the very first time. I went back and 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: read it twice. It's called Double Down Media Mavens Bostil Ladies, 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Power Twins. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Trisha and 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Antoinette Clark with a need Welcome, Ladies, hid We love 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: your energy. We're viving already. Come on, you gotta make 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: it happen. You got to make it happen. The beauty 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: of this book is that, first of all, I have 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: a twenty two your daughter, she's in college that I 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: can't say that because you know what, she's in college. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: My wife will kill me. Why did you say that? 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Now ne' gonna find where your daughter is going to go? 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: And they bother her. But but this book I got 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: a letter read because it's it felt so um so 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: because you because I'm hearing about two success stories in 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: one book and how differently they were achieved and they 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: will achieve because of the I like to say that 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: the ladies in your life were mentors, and not only 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: from the standpoint if they were relatives, but they were 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: mentoring you and sometimes they didn't always say to you 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: what you wanted to hear. Correct. Yeah, absolutely, um And 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: to your point, you know, for your saying that you 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: want your daughter to read this book, that's why we 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: wrote this book. It was to democratize success for people 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: that look like Acus. And for so long we've been 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: looked at as anomalies as we continue to kind of 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: rise up in our career, and we were like, wait 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: a minute, we should be the norm. People of color 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: should be the norm. It shouldn't be well, how did 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: they do it? It should be like how can we 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: all do it? And we think double down. At least 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: that's the groundwork for us to be able to scale 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of the mentorship that we have been giving to 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: two um young girls, young men for the past few years. 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: And yes, we didn't always hear amazing things from from 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: our family. We called them our tribe, kind of the matriarchy, 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: but they definitely instilled a level of passion and determination 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: to succeed. We think a lot of that came from 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: their immigrant mentality. They came here, you know, from they 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: came to the States from Jamaica, and they wanted to 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: achieve the American dream. And their version of the American 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: dream was exactly what the status quo tells us, and 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: that you have to be a doctor, a lawyer, or 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: an engineer to kind of make it. So that's the 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: that's the vision and the directive they gave to us, 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: and we said, hold on a minute, we don't want 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: to be those things, but we think we can still 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: achieve a love a love love success, but doing it 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: our way. And right after college, we tricked them. We 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: told them that we would go to grad school after 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: working for two years. All they have to do is 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: give us two years to work, get to get some experience, 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: then we would go to grad school. So Anthonon and 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: I took it upon ourselves that within those two years 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: we had to figure out a game plan of what 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: success could look like and what our north star is 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and what the plan should be to help get us to, 67 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, the levels that we wanted to achieve. And 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: we were able to at least lay the road map 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: out within those two years, so that the matriarchy kind 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: of gave us some room to breathe and um, do 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: it our way wonderful. Now, the book we're talking about 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: is called Double Down, and it's reading. The book is 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: divided into two parts. Part one, you're focusing on how 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: to double down on yourself, which is very important. I 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: like this because they're talking about getting yourself right. Before 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: we get to part two. You really have to look 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: in yourself because a lot of people always dream I 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: want to do this, uh, and then they make up 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: situations which stopped them from wanting to do this that 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: they keep talking about every time. And let's talk about 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: focusing on the loan game, always keeping your eyes on 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: the horizon or the prize while moving forward with purpose 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: and a plan of action. That's what I talked about 84 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: all all the time on this show. What is your plan. 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: You gotta dream, you set a goal, what is the plan? 86 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: And then part two helps you look outside of yourself 87 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: that is where you your crew looks like. It really 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: interesting because because uh, I talked about this when I 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: was managing Steve Harvey and then when I stopped managing, 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: I was just by myself, and so I was just 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: trying to do a lot of things by myself. And 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: then I had to take I have to take a 93 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: step back, and I realized I had a crew. When 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: I was managing Steve Harker. I had people around me 95 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: that I could can you help me with this? And 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: they wanted to help me with And I like what 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: you talk about. You have to ride or die people 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: in your crew. That's what I forgot And that's what 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about in new book. Correct. Oh yeah, Like 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: and we break it down you have to it has 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: to come from within and you have to build your 102 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: tribe from the inside out. So first you have your 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: inner circle and those are that those are your aces, 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: your rider dies that ride with you no matter what, 105 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: and you can always turn to them and they're they're 106 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: a constant. So like you might talk to them at 107 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: night before you go to bed and then the next 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: morning you're texting with them. Then you have your inner circle. 109 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: That's your broader crew, and they're the ones that show 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: up when it means something right, so birthdays, holidays, big events, 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: but you pick up right where you left off no 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: matter what. Then you have your work squad, and those 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: are the folks that roll with you while you're at 114 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: work and then even after work and help you know, 115 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: lift you up when when things are going wrong, and 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: help you navigate while you're while you're at work. Then 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: you have your board of advisors, and that's your trusted 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: counsel and those those groups. That group of people can 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: basically be a mass from all the groups that we 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: just went through. But in the end, it's about surrounding 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: yourself with people that can be your elevation and your gravity. 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: In the book, we talk about passive accumulation versus deliberate 123 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: cultivations because we amass a lot of people in our 124 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: lives that don't really serve a purpose or that bring 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: us down. So it's about really being cognizant of who 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: you have around you and being diligent about making sure 127 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: that you surround yourself with amazing people that see the 128 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: power you and that you can help fuel the power 129 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: in them. That's right, double down, bet on yourself and 130 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: succeed on your own terms. Gabriel Union, are you should curry? 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Mr Copeland, that's the Vallet Star, Uh, Damon John. Just 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: a name a few people who recommend you should read 133 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: this book. I'm gonna include with Sean McDonald. I'm not 134 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: going to Sean McDonald said you should read this book 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: because absolutely the Power Twins now Here's this is something 136 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I found so relatable to you YouTube. I always felt 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: like they had lived my life little bit because it 138 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: was called status quo. I'm from the inner City, okay, 139 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: so um, six sisters, two brothers, my father, third grade education, 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: my mom, she's gradu from my high school. I was 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: one of those kids to say, hey, you know, he's 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: first probably gonna just be nothing. You know, he's just 143 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna be buried by the community. So I was doing 144 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: the status quot. I got out, went the University of Houston. 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I was a vice president of student body at at 146 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: a predominant white campus. I was Dean's List students, got 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: a degree in mathematics, went to work for IBM. That 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: status quo all I was doing right now, was looking 149 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: for a woman to man. That's what I was supposed 150 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: to do. But something hit me differently. It's called I 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: didn't like that. And that's what they're saying in this book. 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Just the status quot is not for everybody. Some people 153 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: won't just ride it out. They don't want to break 154 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: that ceiling. They don't want they look in the mirror. 155 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: They they want to just ride that train. I tell 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: people I need people like you. I need people, I 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: need banktellers. I need people who want to serve food 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: for me I do. That's other negative because guess what, 159 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: but there are some people who are serving food. They 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: don't want to be status quot. Please stop them. That's 161 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: what this book is about, is telling you you can 162 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: you can break that ceiling, you can break through that 163 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: wall that tells you this is what you're supposed to do. 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: That's what I took home from this book. That's when 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: anybody who reads this book will take home when they 166 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: read Double Down, I'm I'm a fan. I'm a fan, 167 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: you know. I just gotta tell you that, honestly, And uh, 168 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: just just a small portion of what we've taken away 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: from book. When the next break. I want to come 170 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: back and get into more detail about just a personal 171 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: successes each one of you have achieved separately, and also 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: the fact that their mom came over here seventeen years old. 173 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, I got pregnant, father walked out of 174 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: their lives. But look at them now. They did not 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: allow the status quo to stop them. We'll be back 176 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: with more money making conversations. Your host, Roshan McDonald. I'm 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: having such a good time. I feel like I got 178 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: a couple of sisters I picked up on this interview. 179 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: That's our entering that and uh, Tricia Clark, that's Clark 180 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: when they eat. They're the authors of the book are 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: double down, bet on yourself, and succeed on your terms. 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: Now you're twins and so but both of you guys 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: took different paths to success and and but before I 184 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: even get to that, I wanted to share this story 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I felt was relatable to me when they was in 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: college because they went to a college where they really 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: couldn't afford the lifestyle or barely afford the tuition, and 188 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: so they figured out a way about thoring parties. And 189 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: that's what I did in college. I too, I threw 190 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: parties in college to be able to pay for my tuition. 191 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: And so because they constantly saw opportunity. And that's what 192 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: this book they what they what that What I love 193 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: about when I read this book was like you know 194 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: when you when you read a book and almost this 195 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: is me. This is they are a female, younger female 196 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: version of Rashan McDonald, but it's just two of them. 197 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I got to deal with two of them in this book. 198 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I had six sisters, so I I picked up two 199 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: more they just same time, five minutes apart. So and 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: so with that being said and being they that kind 201 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: of like saw your your relationship as business partners, you know, 202 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: because you had the ultimate you know, somebody you can 203 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: lean on left and right. So but you decided to say, hey, 204 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm myself net and I myself Trish. How did that 205 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: come about? Well, I think it's started with our mom our. 206 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: Mom was very conscious about not comparing us, and with 207 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: twins that's pretty difficult. So when we would the report 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: cards or when one of us to have an accomplishment 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: and the other one wouldn't, she would never make the 210 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: other one feel less then or not as accomplished, even 211 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: when Trisia was getting married and I wasn't. My mom 212 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Poatricia's died and said, you know, this is the first 213 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: time I'm not celebrating to both of you together for less. 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Be conscious of how ned is going to be feeling, 215 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: considering she's not about to get married. So I think 216 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: our mom laid the brown work for that. And I 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: always tell people's Trisha wants more for me than I 218 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: even want for myself, and that pushes me to want 219 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: to reach hype that I've never been able to reach 220 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and to have the support of an ace, and we 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: call each other are built in, and anyone could have 222 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: a built in. For Sean, your wife is probably your 223 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: built in. You could be a best friend, it could 224 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: be a bob, it could be a cousin, anyone. But 225 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: it's about cultivating those relationships that help you rise and 226 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: help you elevate. And that's what Trisha and I are 227 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: to each other, and that's why we've both been able 228 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: to reach different types of success and we've taken different paths, 229 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: but we're both in a good place where we're both 230 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: happy and to be able to do this book together 231 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: was amazing. When we were trying to figure out what 232 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: we wanted the content to be in, what the focus 233 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: was going to be on. We kind of took stock 234 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: of our our track and where we've been in all 235 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: the different positions and what got us to where we 236 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: are today, and we both looked at each other. We 237 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: were like, we've been doubling down since we were kids, right, 238 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: and we've we built that muscle and we've never stopped. 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: And we want to be able to impart our eight 240 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: principles that are featured in the book so people can 241 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: get the tools, good tactics on the tips, so they 242 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: can learn that muscle or strengthen the muscle that they 243 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: already have, you know. So it's so interesting because you 244 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: guys were born in the eight seventy six. Correct, yes, 245 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: you've blown up our age were shot. He's in the books, 246 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: in the book. Now, it's in the book. Okay, don't 247 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: be messing with me. Now, I've read the book. Now, 248 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: although okay, by off the stands and see, okay, they 249 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: they don't they look hot, but they least seventy six um. 250 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Because it was the reason I bring it up, because 251 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: it's about your age. Age that I farted. I started 252 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: figuring out Rashaan At Donald, because up to that point 253 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: I was using terms like the right place, right time. Um, 254 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just blessed. I'm just happy to be there. 255 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for the moment. And what I love 256 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: about your book is that you preach confidence. You preach 257 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: the fact that don't don't don't assume that you shouldn't 258 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: be there, that you shouldn't have you have the right 259 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: to say that this is mine, go forward. And so 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: I say that because when I think back over my life, 261 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I think about all the success I had, especially when 262 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: I kids went into college. In college allowed me to 263 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: grow as a human being. That's why I always tell 264 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: everybody go to college. Just go to college, and they 265 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: allow college to to allow you to grow. Because when 266 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: you're in high school, high high school just dictates to 267 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: you go to class, go to class, you go. You 268 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: know if you if you do good or bad, what 269 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: you can get through high school college. You do bad, 270 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I think got something for you, go home, Okay. So 271 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: that means that you have to develop a competitiveness while 272 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: you in college. And that's what that's what college is 273 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing when I read about in your book, 274 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: because that's when the competitive wheels of life really started 275 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: for you too, and that's what plays out in this book. Correct, Yeah, 276 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: And I think it started in college. That's I think 277 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: what we were able to expand it even then. Four opportunities, right, 278 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: But I think it started when we were in high 279 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: school when we decided to sell guest slectshirts, Like there 280 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: was a store in Manhattan that had them ut price, 281 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: so we pulled all of our money together and bought 282 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: about thirtysothing flectshirts. We started rocking them any chance we 283 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: could at school and then um kids would be our 284 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: classmates were like, where'd you get those? And then we 285 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: would have them at our back packs and sell it 286 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: to them. So I think it's always been a part 287 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: of our d n A and and we just flex 288 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: those muscles in different ways based on the white space 289 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: that we're able to find. Right. And that's important to 290 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: say that now. And I and I stand corrected, because 291 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: college allowed you to expand on your entrepreneurship that you 292 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: created high school, because in high school I was selling 293 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: blow pops. In high school, I was I was selling blowpops. 294 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Goes down the store, get blow pops and I go 295 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to school. Hey, blow pops ain't just walking around the hallway. 296 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Region had them, okay. And then I was a photographer 297 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: in school, so I would take I would take a 298 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: couple of photos, a couple of photos, five hours take photos. 299 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, I had equipment access, had my little photo room. 300 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: By going in black and white, I do that. So 301 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I started that in high school. And so when they 302 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: got to college, you know, it was like a bigger 303 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: arena for me to just expand on. I can see 304 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: I can get five dollars from people, I can get 305 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: ten dollars from people. I started being able to convince 306 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: people to go, a group of people to go from 307 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: this place to this place that right there. See, I 308 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: wish I had a double down with me. She she had. 309 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: She she had to double down with her a twin. 310 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: See if I had Rushan McDonald had a twin, Oh boar, 311 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: because she can because whatever it's a rap, it's because 312 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: see whenever she questioned herself, the other twins or the girl, 313 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: let's go forward, really, let's let's go, let let's throw 314 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: this party, let's go to the school. You can do this. 315 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: So whenever a little doubt drops in, and that's something, 316 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: just tell you something is that everybody needs to get 317 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: them a twin, okay, a person who's a ride or die, 318 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: a person who you can throw back information to him 319 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and they give it back to you as real as possible. 320 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: That's what I took away from this book is that 321 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: you to be successful, you gotta have a partner in 322 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: some degree, whether there's a love interest, whether it's a 323 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: best friend, somebody that you can roll with. They were 324 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: born together, five minutes to part and they become business 325 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: partner's best friend. That was my takeaway from book. That 326 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: I missed that in this book when I was reading, 327 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: because that's why I took away, I need to give 328 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: me a Rushan McDonald twin. That's yeah, and that's a 329 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: big part of it. It's showing how you can use 330 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: take lessons of how what we've been able to develop 331 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: because we're twins, and how you can apply that in 332 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: your friendships with colleagues and with the rest of your tribes. 333 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: The tribes cool. So the positions that you guys achieve, Now, 334 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: what's what's the future. You write a book, you know 335 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: you're seeing compliments about your skill, about your skills. It's 336 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: not about your looks, it's about your skills. I think 337 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: that's very important. I think it's very that's what you 338 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: two wanted to achieve. You when people recognize you for 339 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: their talents and you want to share your talents to 340 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the young ladies to let them know that they can 341 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: be great, because so many times it is not men 342 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: but thrown to women how they look and how they 343 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: can be as successful based on their looks. And I 344 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: see that coming clear through the book. Through the pages 345 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: of this book as well, it's about what you can 346 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: do and don't let anybody's status quo is another one 347 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: of those things. Don't let people deny your success because 348 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: they said you got there based on your looks. That 349 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: brings in these pages as well. Correctly, Oh, it's about 350 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: what you bring to the table because and we're all 351 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: about achievement versus activity, right, So people can spend their 352 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: wheels and and try to you know, have these small 353 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: winds and get you know, blocked down by failures. But 354 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: we're always going to have our eye on the long 355 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: game because we know that we want to make an 356 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: impact and you won't want to be literary not temporary. Okay, 357 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: both say that's the first time they talked to another. 358 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Now you see I was rolling. I was rolling with 359 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: everybody going, who're you tuning this talk? And then said 360 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna talk together. The magic is broken, but it's 361 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing. I would be before we get off. 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody how they can get the 363 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: book or by the book, make sure we get that 364 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: out there. Plus I want banners so I can put 365 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: it on my social media. So I on my side 366 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: because like I said, I'm recommending this book, I'm gonna 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: show you how I'm gonna recommend. I'm gonna put it 368 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: in my on my verified social media handles. Okay, but 369 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: tell everybody how they can get the book. Thank you. 370 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: So the book drops yes September tent and it's available 371 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: everywhere books are sold, Amazon, Barnes, and Noble, you name it. 372 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: And you could even go to your local bookstore. And 373 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: if we're not on the shelf, you should ask them 374 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: why we're not on the shelf. So definitely search for 375 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: our books, but it should be everywhere. And if you 376 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: just want to learn a little bit more about us, 377 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: you can check out our website double down book dot 378 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: com um that has our social handles and then also 379 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: links to Bears retailers where you can get it. My friends. 380 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: This has been wonderful. This has been I gotta go 381 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: back into that voice. This has been amazing. I've had 382 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: the Clark Sisters, I've had the Pointer Sisters. I've had 383 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the Clark's Sisters the Gospels. Now I've had the Twins, 384 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the Power Twins. They're the stars of the book, the 385 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: writers of the book. Double down, bet on yourself, and 386 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: succeed on your terms. They're just a younger version of 387 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Rahan McDonald. Unfortunately there's only one Richie McDonald, but there 388 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: had two of them.