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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, I am here with three of probably probably

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Speaker 2: the three most popular epic goldens we've ever had. Kathy, Susan,

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Speaker 2: and Joan. Welcome to the podcast. So fun. You guys

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Speaker 2: all look younger than ever right now, professional professional makeup.

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Speaker 3: With each other.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I was gonna say, Kathy, do you have a day?

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Speaker 2: Because I know Ben was working on that.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Ben failed?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: We still have a little time.

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Speaker 5: It's still going to bemen.

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Speaker 2: Women women, Susan, Kathy. When we were last together in September,

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Speaker 2: we were going to see the Jonas Brothers. Unfortunately, there's

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Speaker 2: nobody as hot performing at jingle Ball tonight. Would you agree?

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Speaker 2: Not even close?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know half the bad name jon gets it?

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Speaker 2: She said, there's no one close, So you agree they're

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Speaker 2: super not even close?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I feel so like old right now.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know. I think I only knew two.

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Speaker 5: I think I only knew who to the performers are.

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Speaker 2: The rest of them, I don't know who they are.

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Speaker 3: I'm living to my grandchildren.

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Speaker 1: They all love k pop, so I cannot yeah.

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Speaker 5: And kid Leroy, but other than I don't know anybody.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to make you feel younger at thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyone.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, good and you're young.

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Speaker 3: Imagine how you're.

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Speaker 2: We're a testament to the lineup. This is a testament

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Speaker 2: to the fact that, like when you're thirty plus, you

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Speaker 2: like check out.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, we are all thirty plus, all together

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Speaker 6: in the same boat.

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Speaker 2: Relating to the fact that I heard that there's like

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Speaker 2: this stuff that you kind of stop discovering new music

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Speaker 2: around thirty Okay, that happens, you don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: mean like new songs to me, I've like cut off

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Speaker 2: my artists. It's kind of like I know that the

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Speaker 2: music that I like, and I know who I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go to when they come out with a new album.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna, like.

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Speaker 6: You understand, for us, we would not know who Taylor

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Speaker 6: Swift is that.

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Speaker 2: You can.

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Speaker 5: There's you can't ignore, like Taylor Swift, But then there's

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Speaker 5: all those auxiliary ones you don't have to embrace anymore.

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Speaker 1: I use the Shazam app when I like a song

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Speaker 1: and I discover a new artist.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jazam, that's basically where I get all of my

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Speaker 2: new music from.

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Speaker 4: I get it from my thirty eight year old daughter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Joan, do you have any plans with

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Speaker 2: Chalk this Christmas season?

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you're asking me that because I've gotten so

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Speaker 5: much crap on social media because I talked about Thanksgiving

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Speaker 5: and I was like thankful for my family, my friends

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Speaker 5: or whatever, and like, I consider him family, so I

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Speaker 5: didn't like say Chalk individually because he's my family, and

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Speaker 5: I got so much crap. Everybody's like they broke up.

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Speaker 4: They broke up.

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Speaker 5: I didn't mention his name. Sorry, I didn't think I

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Speaker 5: had to. I think it's like assumed. So thank you

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Speaker 5: for asking, because the rumors were all untrue. First of all,

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Speaker 5: I didn't die because apparently there was rumors that I

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Speaker 5: was in a tragic accident. So I didn't die, and

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Speaker 5: I also didn't break up. They were one all over

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Speaker 5: social media. Yea, yep, So I'm alive and I'm still

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Speaker 5: a Chalk. We didn't break up, and we do have

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Speaker 5: plans for the holidays. We got an AIRBNBA New York

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Speaker 5: for the whole month of well, most of the month

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Speaker 5: of December and into January, so we're gonna be taking

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Speaker 5: together a lot. Yeah, and then he'll meet my house

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Speaker 5: with my family for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: That's such a treat. How do you split up amongst

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Speaker 2: your family who has Thanksgiving? Who has Christmas?

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Speaker 5: So we're kind of a working prop gris now that

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Speaker 5: you probably have the same thing, like you don't want

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Speaker 5: to leave your house at Christmas time. So I always

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Speaker 5: do Christmas. I've always done Christmas. I will keep that

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Speaker 5: So even though my kids are grown, I now get

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Speaker 5: And Thanksgiving kind of has gotten handed off to different

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Speaker 5: family members over the years. My daughter did it last year, John,

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Speaker 5: my late husband's cousin did it this year. She's a

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Speaker 5: made all the food and brought it over. So I

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Speaker 3: Cook two turkeys.

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving I just didn't have to get the house ready.

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Speaker 5: So Jo, when you refer to mother in law, is

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Speaker 5: it your john's you have my late husband's mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very barely mean.

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Speaker 5: She was part of my life for forty years. I

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Speaker 5: mean she never won't be part of my life.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you guys still have so so

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Speaker 2: so close to our holiday, a relationship that's so nice,

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Speaker 2: really close. And then, do you guys have any New

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Speaker 2: Year's plans? All of you? Kathleen Susan, I feel like

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Speaker 2: you would be hosting some New Year's we want.

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Speaker 6: We want to do New Year's Rock and Eve, but

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Speaker 6: we haven't been asked yet.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 5: I think Ryan Secrets has that monopoly on that one.

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Speaker 3: I'll be on a nice, beautiful island laying on the beach.

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Speaker 2: On New Year's You're perfect? How aout?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Counting down to midnight?

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to be New York. I love to

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Speaker 5: go to Times Square, but I don't want to have

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Speaker 5: to get there at six am and wear a diaper

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Speaker 5: just because there's no trash can I mean there's no bathroom.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how people do it. I used

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Speaker 2: to do it as like a teenager, just like my

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Speaker 2: sister and I would basically be like flirting with cops

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Speaker 2: and they let us into Times Square at like eleven pm.

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Speaker 5: I but I don't think florting is going to do

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Speaker 6: When that we had great New Years, we would my

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Speaker 6: husband would grill steaks and we'd have champagne and we'd

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Speaker 6: watch the ball drop.

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Speaker 4: I love that week.

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Speaker 6: We had really nice, quiet New Year's East together and.

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Speaker 5: When my kids were a little we used to go bowling.

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Speaker 5: It was so much fun with like a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: So fun. Do you have any other holiday traditions that

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Speaker 2: you would suggest that like I or any other young

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Speaker 2: family out there should take on or New Year's or

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Speaker 6: In my family, there are certain recipes that we make

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Speaker 6: every year, and different people will make them sometimes, but

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Speaker 6: it's we always when we talk about the holidays, it's always, oh, great,

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Speaker 6: we're going to have to get those mashed potatoes or

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Speaker 6: that bread or that cake. Like people remember my family.

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Speaker 6: Remember you have to start it with your young kids.

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Speaker 6: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: You start to a.

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Speaker 6: Tradition before your kids are old enough to understand that

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Speaker 6: you're starting a tradition, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So much of it is about the food, but

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Speaker 5: I think, like the memory is maybe a bigger thing,

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Speaker 5: or could be a bigger thing. And like I said,

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Speaker 5: you know, I think a lot of people struggle with

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Speaker 5: what to do on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 2: So it's probably one.

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Speaker 5: So we started incorporating our kids and we did the

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Speaker 5: bowling or we did a bingo night. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: there and and it's fun and if you have it

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Speaker 5: with other families, it's.

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Speaker 3: A lot for your children.

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Speaker 1: Take them out at eight o'clock, bang the pots and pans,

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Speaker 3: I did that for years till they caught on the other.

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Speaker 6: The other thing that I did with my kids, it

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Speaker 6: wasn't for New Year's but at Christmas, we always adopted

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Speaker 6: go shopping and we would buy the things. I would

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Speaker 6: help they would help me pick them out. And I

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Speaker 6: will say, this year, for the first time, it made

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Speaker 6: We've adopted a family because I remember you and Dad

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Speaker 6: we did it every year, and so now my daughter

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Speaker 4: So you're right.

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Speaker 6: Food is important, but teaching kids, especially this time of year,

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Speaker 3: Another secret.

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Speaker 1: Tell the kids because they all have plenty of toys

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Speaker 1: and you're about to add more. No, now, we got

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Speaker 3: Have to part with things. It was an ordeal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was hard for them. What don't you want to

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Speaker 2: That's actually a really good idea too, putting the donations

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Speaker 4: Get your kids to help you whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: If you have a tree, help get your kids involved

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Speaker 6: I have found with children, it's not the big thing.

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Speaker 6: It's not the gifts that remember. My kids don't remember

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Speaker 5: And they can be really simple. I remember we used

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Speaker 5: to on two days before Christmas, the eve of Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 5: we would stick the kids in the car in their pajamas.

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Speaker 5: And it was so simple, and it kind of got

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Speaker 5: drove around to neighborhoods and looked at Christmas lights, and

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Speaker 5: you didn't and you would not have hot chocolate in

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Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, anything you want.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, I realized we were kind of were unintentionally creating

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Speaker 2: like a Hallmark town tree lighting where they have carollers,

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Speaker 2: non intentionally. I go over into this little store where

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Speaker 3: Meeting the well, we have to do some suggestions, right.

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Speaker 2: For you and Hannah to have like a relaxing I said,

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Speaker 5: Sitting by the planet, like I'm not sure if I'm

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Speaker 4: I love all that bingo bingo.

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Speaker 5: I know I volunteered, Yeah, but I think I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Well, they might ask the same questions, they just didn't

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Speaker 1: we're just happy to mingle. There's lots of single men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of my fans, right, and her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple couple of single men in their sixties.

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Speaker 5: Good loss, I say zero, I say four thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Actually, So, why do I always think that you were

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Speaker 6: You know, I had high hopes for them. They were

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Speaker 6: They both have you know, they're both a little bit

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Speaker 4: It's sad.

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Speaker 4: You know what, it's whether you think it.

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Speaker 6: I'm a I'm the eternal optimist, Like I wanted them

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Speaker 4: They're all moving together. They all moved in together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alison and Alexander. They're talking about finances already and

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Speaker 5: They're sorting good they want Yeah, they all do. That

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Speaker 2: Just cross It really was because with her student loans and.

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Speaker 6: She talked to you guys, don't I don't know if

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Speaker 4: From Yeah, that was starting out there, but we had.

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Speaker 6: These interviews and I asked, I asked Alex what they

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Speaker 5: I was like, no, no, Bailey, reach out to me

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's crazy three couples.

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Speaker 5: They may have surprised me, and I'm happily surprised.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I love that she like she said that

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Speaker 5: It's such a like a responsible and mature decision to

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Speaker 2: What a great reward, perfect reward.

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Speaker 6: You know what I love about them? They both have

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Speaker 6: I just sat and watched them because they just were

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Speaker 5: They actually worried me. I kept thinking they are two

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Speaker 5: They weren't super affectionate. I mean, it's obvious now that

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Speaker 2: Because to me, it was Ashley and JP.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Ashley and Ja surprised.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we almost expect them usually. Now

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Speaker 4: Was like, really, but how much fun was the wedding?

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Speaker 2: So nice to me? I always tell her. She looked

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Speaker 2: You don't even know if I talked to you about

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's incredient.

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Speaker 6: That that's a what you know what? Gary and wish

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Speaker 2: Doing, Alice, it would have gotten them out of it.

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Speaker 3: But that wedding was at the top that we have

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Speaker 5: It was a phenomenal event to be invited to a

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Speaker 4: There were some great moments at that wedding. There were

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the fact that you guys can just take

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Speaker 6: But you know what, actually, look at this three two

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Speaker 6: That's the best thing about bachelors, the friendships.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you probably know that too. I mean obviously.

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Speaker 2: Certainly absolutely like a frat and sority in my life

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Speaker 2: All right, all, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time at jingle Ball tonight. Think you

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Speaker 2: know just you know, enjoyed the free food and drinks.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know the songs, I know this I

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