WEBVTT - WEEZY WTF - Gourmet Mac N Cheese 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.320 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.040 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:13.480 very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.200 special guests I do. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.120 We just have to end up bleeping them out for sol. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:18.639 Do you believe about your social talk? 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:19.200 No? 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.240 Sorry, well I heard it. It messes with the algorithms. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:23.680 Oh that's probably true. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:43.879 Maybe that's why we haven't. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.920 Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.000 show called Sex Cells, and she. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:57.000 Is an entrepreneur. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.480 She owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:01.400 I missing a market? 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.360 Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:09.440 Be okay hopefully, Alana and I real know, okay, okay, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.240 but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.640 probably over a year ago, and literally like, I just 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.200 I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.319 Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:24.520 your broke dish today? 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.759 Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.080 I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese because I 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.440 don't like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap, and 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.720 the meal is cheap, But like when broke, I was like, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.200 I need to feel full fast, and I always thought 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.319 that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.280 dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.680 though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.200 So I just tried to dress it up what I had. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:52.000 Yeah, I saw that. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.240 I saw these extra ingredients, and I didn't know which 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.080 direction your meal was going. So for our listeners, can 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.200 you say what is in. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.800 The gourmet mecha cheese? 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.760 So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.400 very expensive when your rope like this is what eight 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.280 dollars for this? Maybe ten? 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:08.919 Probably? 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:14.200 Yeah, So I would use criscal but virgin olive oil. Lorry, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.560 I don't know how to say his name, but Tony Shiericus, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.360 I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole. So we 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.680 have the mixing bowls. I don't know why. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.840 Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:27.720 cheese water. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.320 Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.079 have a what's it called. I would take the top, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:34.679 pour it out. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.160 Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:38.960 this is just a fruit strainer. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.680 But go on, what's the ingredients? 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.519 I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.399 my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.160 We've got the cutting board of the knife so that 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.600 you can slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter, and milk. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:54.679 Awesome. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.760 Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.919 In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:08.880 and cheese. Okay, but I am excited because there's so much. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.440 Don't go together. So I think it's the loster mac 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.520 and cheese and that's it. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.440 Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know there. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:16.079 You know. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.440 But but no, I'm excited because this is my first 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.120 time ever in the history of living on this earth 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.919 having gourmet mac and cheese. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:26.679 And it's really cool. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.280 You know what I actually put in myra? 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.080 Look you getting all hyped into it? What what? 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.519 Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I make Gromet 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.600 mac and cheese for overall, I put like five different 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.200 type of cheeses in it, and I put a little 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.400 bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't remember where 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.320 I learned about the beer from. But it's something about 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.120 the yeast and the beer. Oh my god, you can 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.000 taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money, so 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.320 I felt like I shouldn't added that. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.840 No, no, but that's your But you now that you 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.560 make money, you actually. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.040 Do to a still a twist on gormet maca cheer. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.400 Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.040 this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.440 which is classic big mac burn at the top, and 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:10.760 then mine is the bougie back. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.360 And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black? 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.559 My mom is black and my dad's is really okay, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.240 maybe it should be Hebrew national. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:19.760 You're hilarious. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.640 My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican. So 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.599 I have the same black and white mix because I 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.800 never ever meet it where the mom is black and 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.120 the dad is white. Whenever I see someone like that, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.560 I'm like, hey, that's crazy, all right. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.160 You always see the other people was like, you're like 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:36.599 black and Jewish, You're like Drake. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.120 Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.200 back in the day. People don't know nothing, You not 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.279 these young kids. But all right, weezy. So I am 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.360 dying to try this gourmet mac. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.159 So come away. It's not gonna be good. Why you 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.000 say that, because think about the stuff we eat today. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.080 I mean, you eat shitty meals all the time. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.680 Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the point 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.000 where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been because 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.760 I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.160 It's gonna get me caught up. But this it was. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:15.080 Literally it's tuna castrole and the pickled egg is the 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.800 worst dish for me on the on the shell. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.400 If people said the worst pickled eg? Have you had 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.039 a pickled egg? 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.359 I thought castroles are for Caucasians. And this is the 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.760 Black Blact Network. It was. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.640 It was two black sisters that owned a all black 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.000 owned store that carries all black owned and they made 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.919 a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.480 Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.320 because I like it to. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.240 Caramel lote, okay, okay, But. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.440 Also I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.880 And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.880 to get the flavor with the onions, and shit tastes 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:55.800 like extra. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:56.400 Yeah. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.080 I just learned the other day that some people seasoned 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.000 the onions. Are you one of those people? 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:01.960 No? 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:08.360 Am I Karen? Now it was it was a black girl. Damn, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.279 I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect her 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:11.799 to be black. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:17.320 You you said you're a carot. You want to know. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.880 Something that's just too black? My mom, every time she 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.560 watches my dog, won't feed the dog dog food. It's 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.159 only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom, why 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.159 is that chicken color different? Oh well, it has a 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.680 little garlic powder and just a little season on it. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.040 She seas in the dog's foods there's too bland, no way. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.680 And every time I got the dog be peen out 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.479 of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.600 week for me. By the way, my parents, I moved 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.520 them to LA so they're flying tonight. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.279 You moved them. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.760 They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.400 And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.440 got to be one back and forth, okay. So I 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.279 just wanted them closer to me, so that that to 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.239 me was like a big life goal that's summer Orlando. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.919 First of all, that's a yeah, cause it would have 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.279 been cheaper to move from LA to Orlando. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.520 You moved them to a more expensive market. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.160 I want them to be closer to me. This is 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.040 where all my work is happening. And like, yeah, I mean, 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:21.480 Orlando's where I'm from. So it was Honda Go on 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.760 my birthday this year. I went to suspend it with 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.440 my father. My dad, he's in a wheelchair, so it's 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.120 a lot more difficult for him to visit me like 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.000 my mom does. People probably see my mom all over 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.840 my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.280 I could watch TV with you all the time. I 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.360 wish we could have these moments together, Like I wish 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.200 I could be in LA with you and your mom. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.320 And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.280 and so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.480 make this meal today. I actually walked by a T 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.240 Mobile store, which was my last job, to walk by 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:51.760 a T Mobile store making the meal. I made it 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.720 when I was broken. I'm literally able to afford to 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.800 move my parents here, but who knows, maybe they gonna 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.040 spend so much money I'm gonna have to eat this 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:57.480 shit again. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.480 No, no, but you're making like really big moves. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:02.320 I was. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.680 I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.920 knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:16.000 making like chess moves like effortlessly. So when I say like, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.280 I'm pulling out the pen like, I've been working for 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.800 myself for a long time, but I definitely don't make 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.480 the type of money that I need to make. I'm 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.200 still in the Jamaican like two thousand here, five thousand here, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.960 three thousand here equals twelve thousand. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.520 But I'm not at the point where I'm playing chess. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.400 So I'm literally excited about this episode because we're all 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.400 about to get took to. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.319 School, you, I hope. So yeah, So I hope. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.600 I do the due deal with just tell us what 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.640 was going on when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.480 the original, So I'll. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.200 Tell you this, coming from Brokeness was. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.040 Something that I thought you were gonna put the sorry. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.880 I thought you were going to do the smaller pan 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.880 for the hot dogs, and I had your pan for. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.400 That want of them first. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:01.800 I don't know if they you're gonna boil him in 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.440 the mac and cheese. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.960 This is the maca cheese potting. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.760 No, it was the other because that pot small. I 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:09.120 love you. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.560 I'm making my own okay, I'm staying out of the kitchen. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:13.320 Said you're gonna take. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.120 Just so you know, every time I get involved in 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.880 the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.240 stay in my life, okay, okay, mae, yeah, because I've 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.600 been burning stuff on people's own meals, all right, So 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.000 so tell me what was going on. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:29.640 Sorry. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.800 So I actually grew up with money and there was 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.640 a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.080 some money, and then my dad ended up having a 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:43.560 stroke that kept him out of work. And so after that, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.880 I ended up dating a guy. It was just like 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.760 rich boyfriend that was paying for my school and then 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.600 he was very abusive. Broke up with him and then 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.640 that stopped. My parents couldn't really afford to college. I 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.319 had to help them out because my dad had this stroke. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.560 So started working at the mall, White House black market 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.319 clothing stores like a hand tailor. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.880 Bike yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.679 That's my first I did, did you steal anything from them? 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.800 Like a few things? Okay, good, good, But then I 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.760 realized once I had to stop, I wasn't like stealing 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.920 for real, for real, Okay, it was just a little shit. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.080 And then one day I wore something to work and 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.680 she was like, I didn't know you got that dress, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.439 and I was like, ah. The craziest thing was I 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.760 went to jail and ended up having it was for 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.920 my license. Everybody thinks it was something worse. It was 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.000 for my license, and I had a GPS monitor on 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.200 my foot, and so I had to always wear Maxi 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.920 dresses to work, or like super big boots. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.840 To cover you got one of those ankle monitors. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.240 Yes, no way, all working at my house like market. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.240 It was terrible. So then I think I was helping 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.320 a woman that worked at a T mobile store and 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.160 I was selling her mad shit. She's like, you're really 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.240 good at sales. How much she's making here. I don't 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.920 remember what it was, fucking ten dollars an hour, but 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.319 my commission would be good, so it'd be up to 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.360 twenty or thirty. And she was like, I can make 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.880 you double a tea mobile with the way you saw. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.000 Oh now, I knew nothing about cel phone. She's like, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.439 you don't have to just have to be cute. It's 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.000 funny because I went on a date the other day, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.880 this nigga said, you look like a bitch. She used 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.400 to work its emobile. I used to tie my little 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:12.960 shirt up like this and be like, what kind of 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.480 on y'all want? I was gonna sell it to all 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.240 the top niggas, the prepaid lines in the box because 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.120 you weren't supposed to legally sell them a new number 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.960 every month. Oh, so niggas would come in. I just 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.480 fucking keeps wiping the shit whatever. So ended up being 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.040 so good at T mobile selling shit. I think my 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.000 first year working there, I was like twenty two twenty three. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.559 I made like ninety thousand dollars. Get the heck out crazy. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.320 They don't pay it over that way no more. Yeah, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.480 but like I was selling selling something. The iPhone was 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.400 hot back then, and it just came out and literally 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.400 was fucking flying to Europe, just like experiencing life. Living 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.679 life still had a shitty car with windows, didn't go down, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.439 But I just spent all my money and experiences, and 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.839 what I realized from those experiences, like, oh, I got 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.640 to get more and more and more. Every time you 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.640 taste a little bit of luxury, now you need more 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.920 and more and more, you know. So from there, ended 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.319 up training T Mobile staff in Florida. Then I ended 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.200 up managing a store, and then they moved me to 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.000 New York to work in corporate. And now not saying 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.360 I couldn't have made it to New York alone, but 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.880 I did have a sugar daddy then. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.520 Okay, And so he was like a legit sugar daddy, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.120 like what you envisioned in the movies, Like he wasn't 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.800 that hot, and he had paper. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.959 Oh he paper, Oh yeah, like some bitches have a 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:27.960 sugar daddy. I I he had a. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.000 Plane, he had he had a plane. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.800 Yes, Oh he was like legit okay, Oh my god. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.199 He was so rich. And I met him working in 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.920 mother fucking T Mobile. He came in, he had like 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.480 three hundred lines for his company and he was like, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.200 I'm with Rise and Da Da Da, but his daughter 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.120 wanted something that was only a T mobile. I was like, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.480 why don't you move your lines over? And he's like, honey, 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.600 I don't do T Mobile Like this is that's very 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.200 so I think I saved him like twenty five grand 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.319 a month, and he said he was gonna give me 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.560 a gift and I told him. He's like, what are 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:55.959 you doing this week? I was like, I'm gonna go 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.040 see Beyonce Miami. He was the Formation tour. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:58.439 Okay. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.520 He's like, how are you gonna get there? I'm like 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.000 gonna drive my friends. She's like, take my jet, and 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.640 I remember my friend's like, oh I got you gotta 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.240 suck that owd man. We got on that jet and 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.640 it was like, bitch'll suck a thick cot And so 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.320 that was like my first entry into whole ho ho 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.240 sheit okay, okay, got me this insane apartment in New York. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.000 It was like, wait, he was doing that too. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.800 Oh you're saying. When he knew I was gonna leave Orlando, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.280 He's like, sweetie, I can't have you leave me. I 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.120 was thinking about getting a place in New York. Anyway. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.320 He's like, where were you gonna move? I was like Manhattan. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.560 He goes that means Harlem, which was true. So I 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.079 was Midtown fifty fourth and eighth. And it's so funny 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.840 because my mom came to visit me and the address 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.079 was two sixty West fifty fourth or two sixty spy. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.520 My mom got to my apartment, she goes, oh my god, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.240 it's Tudio fifty four is right there. She's like, that's 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.320 where I was going, That's where I was meeting these 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.320 rich guys. You're turning into me. She was so proud 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.880 of me, And I think, what's funny is my mom 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:54.920 always wanted me to. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.080 Be such a good personality. Couldn't wear your personality? 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.880 Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.160 always wanted me to be taken care of. And like, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.520 it's so crazy because now I'm the rich guy, you know, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.360 And I don't think she expected it, but it's just amazing. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.320 Like I never thought i'd get here. I always kind 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.080 of thought and she would say to me, you're gonna 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.920 get married, You're gonna have a big house, and you're 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.440 gonna move me and your dad in the guest house. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.920 It's gonna be so great. And like literally I'm moving 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.520 them into a place down the street from me. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.640 Yeah, without an e. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.760 But how does it not that I also say that 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.600 now you're the rich guy, Like when you do you 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.560 this obviously is in the first time you said it 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.680 is it when did you have the epiphany that you. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.200 Were the rich guy? I damn, that's a good feeling. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.560 I can't wait to have that feeling. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.680 It was, It wasn't the first time I felt that was. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.520 I was in Paris with my mom and I took 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.960 her for a birthday and I wanted to fly her 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.360 first class, but I use like an upgrade to getting 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.920 points then, you know, because like first class, I'd be 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.720 like ten fifteen thousand for them. Lay down. And when 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.960 we got there, we get to the hotel and it 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.400 was really nice, and she's like, oh, what's our room? Like, oh, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.520 are we have two separate rooms? And every little thing 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.080 my mom was starting to count in her head, like 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.240 how much was my daughter making? 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:06.160 Yeah, she said, we. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.480 Got our own rooms. Okay. Then we go to the store. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.160 I'm like, you want something, I'll just get a lipstick. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.680 I'm like, no, Mom, you can get more. You can 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:13.240 get a bag. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.200 Your mom was like, what the break is happening? 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.840 She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.160 the protest store and there's a hotel very famous called 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.400 the Plaza A. My mom was telling me how princes 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.240 would take her to dinner there. When she was young 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.000 and she would meet all these guys when she was 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.720 traveling in Europe and this was like the place to go. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:31.400 I was like, oh, do you want to have dinner there? 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.600 And that was when like it hit my mom. She 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.280 got really emotional and she's like, I cannot fucking believe 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.320 I'm doing this with you. My mom is seventy seventieth 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:40.200 birthday at the time. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.600 Oh, you said stay out the lane, so I'm staying. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.160 I'm watching it. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:47.640 I get cooked for. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.440 Her now, Yo. You ain't been in the kitchen in 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:51.920 a while. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:53.240 I cooked this morning. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.120 Yo, I'm sorry you told me that. You told me 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.760 to stay out the kitchen, and. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.280 We almost about to burn down the whole even know 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.680 if you don't on there to be on the wood part. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.600 No, I can't. I was looking for another conterract. Okay, 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.520 I'll move it to this one the ale I tried to. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.040 I love it, No, but it was. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.400 It was beautiful because my mom really was just so 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.960 excited for me, so proud of me. I do remember, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.080 you know, we still niggas at the end of the day, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.080 Like we sitting here with these fucking Louis bags and 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.280 all these expensive shopping bags and literally, my mom orders 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.240 a drink. She looks at me and she said, oh shit, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.320 that was forty three dollars. She was let me sip slow. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.520 But it's really great because for me, like I don't 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.160 have kids yet, so like spoiling my parents just it's 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.440 like dream come true. Shit for me. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.320 I can only imagine. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.360 I really really have wanted this for myself my life, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.040 and like I love doing it for my mom. My 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.760 mom thinks I'm Beyonce. Like if we walk into a 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.720 place and can't get in, like you don't know how 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:54.840 my daughter is called Charlemagne. It's just my mom is 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.240 like my daughter's on TV and they're like, really, what anfuse? 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.920 But yeah, I mean I feel really proud to do that. 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.320 Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:07.200 freaking deal. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.480 She's gonna get her nerves well. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.399 And luckily you moved it right down the street. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:11.920 I did. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:12.239 So. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.919 My mom wanted to get rid of her car. She 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.320 was like, I think I'm getting old. She had a 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.080 little moment. We were looking for her apartment and she 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.400 saw me parallel park. She started crying. I'm like, what's 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.280 wrong with you? She's like, I'm older than I thought. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:25.720 I don't know if I can do this shit. I 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.320 got to get rid of my car, like I'm an 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.960 old lady. What if I hit somebody? Thought? And so 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.720 we sold her car. And I'm a little nervous because 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.199 you know, parents don't want to give up too much 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.280 of their autonomy. They need to be able to do 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.200 shit for themselves. So you know, I hope she can't 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.160 moved her in a walkable neighborhood. She'll figure it out. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.640 Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.320 when does your dad comes? 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.760 So my dad comes in tonight. He's just like as 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.360 a hospital visit, and it's a little more extensive when 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.439 someone's like fully in a wheelchair. So I wanted my 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.000 mom to have a few days to herself. I'll take 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.800 care of my dad and then you know, okay, she's 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:00.960 moved and a lot of shit they've lived. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.720 There forever, Okay, Okay, So yeah, it's a big deal. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.359 So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay, 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.800 because I want to know how this elevation because it 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.040 seems like somewhere around your elevation that was like a 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:13.920 speed track. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.920 So the broke miss the brokest I think i'd been 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.359 was when I left the abusive X, right, he only 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.080 let me keep barely the clothes that I had that 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.760 I had when I like got with him. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.080 Are we talking like emotional or physical abuse? 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.640 Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.399 know how dark you can get on the show. But like, 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.080 I didn't even know it was bad because I just 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.400 kind of thought when a man is paying for things 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.320 for you, like you deal with a little bit of something, right, Yeah, 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.560 And so to me, if you never close your fist, 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.080 I thought that was fine. I never realized how the 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.240 steps of you know, physical violence can be. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:54.879 Yeah. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.520 So when I left him, he didn't give me anything. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.440 It was really tough. I mean, mind you, I went 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.160 from when I was a kid having a driver drive 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.679 me to school that's how my parents were, to like 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.680 literally figuring out what I was gonna do with the 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.240 last pot holes, right, So it was really tough. And 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.040 I couldn't ask my parents for anything, didn't want to 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.280 tell them how bad it was. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.919 Yeah, you know, so when I moved, he didn't want 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.760 to tell them because they were already struggling. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.280 Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.919 She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.439 having this rich boyfriend? Yeah, oh yeah, you know. So 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.120 ended up finding a place I think it was seven 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.320 hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls, a 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.080 two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart, thank god, 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.000 because that's where I was buying all the fucking hot dogs, 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.000 the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my number one broke 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.119 thing I would do. So I used to hang with 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:47.120 all the trap news because hello, that was my jam okay, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.560 and I'm from Florida, right, so like southern culture, big 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.080 car shows, HBC's like it was just fun and basically 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.720 what I would do if they were going to like 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.119 buy a bottle or a table in the club, I 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.159 would see if I had like maybe thirty dollars to 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.440 my account so that it would overdraft, I'd have them 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.600 give me the cash. And that was like my payday 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:05.400 loan to myself. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.280 Oh wow, hold that You are like really in deep 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.879 when you think of that strategy. 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.360 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.000 My roommate and I at the time. I remember we 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.560 both got paid on different weeks. So there was a 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.080 Thursday and we both got paid that or I got 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.000 paid that Friday. I was like, damn, we don't have 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.520 detergent left, but we want to go to the club. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.359 We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay, we 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.159 get vodka or detergent, and we got vodka. Okay, we 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.120 use some body washing like clean shit. In the same 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.239 we were like, we got to go out and meet 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.960 niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that, like 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.680 that was what I thought being able to have success. 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.000 Look like I got to meet a rich guy, I 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.520 got a date a basketball player, this fi or that guy. Yeah, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.720 which a lot of women still think they need to 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:46.639 do today. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.119 I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.600 want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.640 do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless? Let 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.240 me help you. I can graduate you to the next week. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.040 Oh no, trust me, you don't want to get in 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:04.600 that game. You know what the problem is because they'll 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.480 turn around to look at you and be like, I 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:07.720 know I'm homeless, but. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.800 Oh no, my life, I think I'm better than you. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.199 The problem is, like I think now, a lot of 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.680 the dudes are in my industry right, so like the 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.480 people that I'm working amongst, I can't be out here 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.720 like trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.200 I used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.880 want Toby, but like for real, like you know, it's 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.200 like they'll know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.080 so I don't want to be a bird. Then I 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.200 just end up, you know, a bird with these niggas. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.159 But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.640 and I am done. So you know, if you ever 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.000 find a rich one, you can always slide on. Heyko, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.399 I'm like, yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:50.280 a rich dude. 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.560 My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.199 like I just really want to be able to like 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.840 out my you know, home parents, And it was true. 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:01.280 I was like, so, I'm just like working really hard 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:02.919 and I can't ut work college. But just like I'm 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.119 really smart. I read a lot. I was always like 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.200 doing a fucking sob story, which I'll tell you what, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.760 my sugar daddy. A lot of the things that I 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.200 think helped me now are the stock tips and investment 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:17.480 tips I got for my sugar daddy. 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.600 But didn't didn't you say, were your parents in stock markets? 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.240 Too though it crash okay, So you didn't want to 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.439 take tips from them, were you? 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.000 Like No? 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:32.119 But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.000 remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning, 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:35.760 five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.920 watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.280 x right, things like that, and it never made me 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.679 want his money. I always wanted to be him. I 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.600 always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this, 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.120 this and that to me that was so attractive about him. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:52.960 People used to always ask me how I could fuck 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:54.440 him and shit like that, and I was like, bro, 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.520 you don't know how rich the person is. You don't 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.080 know how how much that drives me. The ambition that 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.080 made him sexier and sexier. So one day I eventually 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.720 just asked him like, hey, I really want to learn 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.800 the stock market, but like, you know, what, can I 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.400 put like five hundred dollars in? And he's like, that's 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.160 not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars if 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.760 you can make it grow. I forgot the timeframe. He said, 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.359 I'll reward you with another ten and he did wow, 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.400 And I kept growing it and growing it. I think 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:21.680 at the time I even put the money in T 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.240 Mobile think it opened, became a publicly traded company when 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:30.560 I worked there, became publicly traded and then it was 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.400 six dollars and then they went up to like thirty 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:33.120 and I probably get. 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:44.440 A lot of money. 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.840 So when you were doing the podcast, and this is 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:54.400 before I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct, 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.080 seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.639 the New wave or were you guys early in. 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.000 We were very early, and like people were very really 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:06.359 doing video, I think for popular podcasts, just for scale. 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.200 I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:11.640 you're not getting burns. 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.399 I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.680 a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:19.240 Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.560 Okay, gourmet continue. 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.840 I don't want to derail you. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.720 This is fucking me up. This is hard. I can't 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:29.640 even listen to music when I cook one. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.720 You would be surprised how many people will at the 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.399 after each interview, they'll be like yo, cooking and talking 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:35.160 at the same time. 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:36.919 Really really difficult because. 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.080 You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:40.800 what's making it. 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.359 And you have to like tell your story the entire time. 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.080 I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies. 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:52.399 No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe, 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.439 sugar daddy, so that would make you the sugar baby, right, 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.560 sugar baby. Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby. 0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.320 I'm going to get a shirt Baisy Bros. 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.800 Every time I was out with him, I would take 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.320 him to like fucking any and this when I just 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.679 moved to New York. Catch just just came out at 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.240 the time, and SGK was super popular. I remember all 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:10.439 them niggas if you be looking at me with him, 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.399 and I'd be like, come on, babe. Also just turned 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.520 on knowing that he had to fuck me for money, 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.919 uh huh, which is terrible, but I was okay, it 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.800 was sexy to me, like especially when I remember he 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.040 would be like, you want to get some clothes and 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.600 I would always want to get a little Nike askict 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.600 to ship you know many all the niggas of you 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:33.040 in Yeah, he's my daddy, but so anyway, start horrible decisions. 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:37.359 But I like how you were actually inspired by his 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.119 moves versus well, I don't want to say I like, 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.120 but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.600 successful to be even more successful, and you you took 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.160 the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.240 what you're doing and do it on my own, which 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:52.680 was great. 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.520 It's like I always wanted this sex in the city 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.119 life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.719 them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.520 I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.600 an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.040 doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.040 to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.720 had also experienced my first relationship a man with money 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.439 and abuse, so I was like, I have to have 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.879 it on my own. I can't be down again. And 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.199 you know, I hate to say it like this, but 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.720 my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.640 happened to my parents with losing their I mean their 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.119 house got four clothes on right, the home that I 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.600 SETI grew up in. It's like it was tough to 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.199 watch them go through that. And I think about two 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.680 incomes or just diversifying shit what that would have meant. 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.840 So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.000 for my mom to hear that. 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.040 Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations? 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.720 Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy. Like my mom 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.679 is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like, oh 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.199 my god, I never taught you to go out there 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:53.919 and do it alone. 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:55.000 But look at you. 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.320 In a way, you're you know, well I made money 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:00.159 off of person. 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.639 Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.199 That's really it. I mean the personality. I mean, in 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:12.520 my opinion, the personality is just like the cherry on 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:12.840 the cake. 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.119 But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.240 my father that's what he did growing up. He owned 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.280 like camera stores and like you know the little row 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.439 like stores back in the day they'd have where they 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.119 were selling electronic these shops. That was my dad's like 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:32.080 line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up, 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:33.800 I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:41.200 T mobile by then then, like literally everything about it 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.159 felt like selling to me. You know, Like it's interesting 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.040 the way Mandy and I have kind of done our business. 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:50.399 I always felt like she has really helped us so 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.040 much when it comes in terms of our finances. 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:52.199 Right. 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.600 She had a financial background, and even though I came 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.640 from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.479 the first person when we're on a call that's like 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.560 I want to do it for this much, this or that. 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.360 And like I loved that. We've been able to play 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.639 up both of our corporate roles in that. Yeah, and 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.240 I've got a lot of seller blood in me. My 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.680 partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios. Anytime we have 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.520 a big deal or he sees someone's budget, he's like, oh, 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.439 you have to sell them on the phone. You have 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.440 to tell them why. And I really enjoy it. It makes 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:21.880 me feel like I still got it a little bit. 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.080 I I always say this that I think I used 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.520 to always say. When I have a child, I want 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.320 to teach her how to read, I want to teach 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.640 her financial literacy, I want to teach her about God. 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.119 But the number one skill that she has to have 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.680 before she graduates high school is the ability to sell. 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.360 Because I think it is the most underrated skill. 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:43.840 And if you're going to go work for yourself, the 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.760 number one thing you're gonna have to do is sell 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.640 a product, sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep. 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.440 And I remember when I had my first company. I 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.280 remember going to home deep or office depot and buying 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.000 those little sale books and you know how well out 0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.600 the hair pulled back and all. 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:00.760 This and whatever. 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.280 But I knew right away that sales is the one skill. 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.720 And I would listen to all these audio tapes too 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.560 about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:10.920 into it. 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.280 Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.600 I had a conversation about this, Like, so I never 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.280 finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.960 I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.080 want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:27.320 normally do it like this. But Mandy at the time 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.920 coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm, 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.080 and she was working more hours and not making as 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.160 much as me in accounting at that time. I understand 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.160 it was junior level. Yeah, but I think about that 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.600 a lot, and I think about the money you can 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.040 make from selling all the time, and I think about 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.680 that instance of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me. 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.080 But why isn't she making it up? And it's because 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.360 that particular skill really can't be taught real you can't. 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.200 Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice 0:29:58.240 --> 0:29:59.200 it and practice it. 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.120 I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than what was 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.520 I going to say, you know, the job that she had, 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.280 and that's why she's making way more and doing way 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.920 more things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing. 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:10.560 Yeah. 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.240 So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.520 decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.080 juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions, 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.600 I quit. But it was mainly because I was like, 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.280 you know what, if I ever wanted to come back 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.480 to this shit, I will, like I've been making jokes recently, 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.239 I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.480 probably gonna be a real estate agent. 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.640 So why did you quit? Two years? 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.719 In the trajectory of horrible was faster than the trajectory 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.520 of corporate America. For example, how long do we work 0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.800 a corporate job? Right, so you want to get promoted? 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.600 I worked for Teambile six years. I got to be 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.640 a manager after year three and a half four, if 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.720 there's a spot for you. So to me, I kind 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.840 of just felt like this is moving faster than my 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:00.000 rate in the corporate world. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.360 Yeah, but you said you quit horrible. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.480 Oh sorry, quit my corporate. 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.240 Oh okay, okay, Oh because you were like two years 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.640 in I quit horrible. 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.960 No, you quit your corporate okay, okay. 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.280 Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.920 legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me. 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.520 But I have to ask before, how much were you making? 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.520 It horrible to say, okay, not as you make it. Oh, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.080 you weren't making as much as T Mobile. 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.120 So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.960 me when is the right time to quit a job, 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.240 and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile, 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.920 I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay, which. 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.680 Is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on. 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.840 It was like I was selling to companies that needed 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.680 like Ethernet I gradual disaster recovery, like I graduated from phones. 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.840 But basically this is what happens. So horrible decisions at 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.960 that time that I quit may have been making me 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.880 one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.600 not even Patreon ad money, and. 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.120 That's two years in. Yeah, geez, all right, go on. 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.440 And I think the tour money because Mandy and I 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.480 were buying out theaters. We brought out Carolines on Broadway. 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.760 And you guys were physically doing it yourself. 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.880 Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit. 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:21.600 But what I realized was like, oh, took me six 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.840 years to make ninety to one to seventy year, took 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.240 me two years from zero to one hundred. So next 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.000 year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.280 make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:33.920 have more time on my hands. I could probably do 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.360 more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit. 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:42.240 I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.800 anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.080 like a blazer and a skirt, but Mandy and I 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.200 had to like make an excuse to leave our jobs 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.360 that day to go shoot with charl Mane and Andrew. 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.280 So I think that it really will show you, like 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.200 when you have to start saying no to things. Oh 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.520 oh yeah, when you have to start saying no to 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.800 things because of your day job. Yes, maybe that's when 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.320 it's time, like when you're really getting booked like that, 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.360 like TV appearances even like I remember we did Vice 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.000 Live and I couldn't be there early for the rehearsal 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.600 because of my job, And I was like, damn man, 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:18.360 and anyone who's watching this who might be semi getting entertainment, 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.040 whether you've got a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.080 want to do a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.040 or even eating while robe. Who the fuck is gonna 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.080 do this shit at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right, 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.360 who's gonna do what? Like to have a guest? Yeah, entrepreneurs, 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.800 Like all this shit gets filmed during the day. Yeah, 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.080 So it's really tough to have a nine to five 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.320 and pursue those entertainment dreams. And like that was why 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.280 I was like, I got to figure the shit out. 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:48.240 I think my biggest success in this industry came during 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:53.320 the pandemic while pivoting. So made the TV show Sex Sells. 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.400 It's about the business of sex, having money, making money 0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.920 from sex without having it. And I came up with 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.200 that because that's how I make money, right, I just 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.120 basically talk about sex covered all these adult industries and 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.080 I'm not a TV star, and it ended up popping 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:09.319 on cues and that's why I'm one. 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.799 How did you did you package that yourself and then 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.040 start selling it? Or did you package it and then 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.920 started calling Charlemagne or different people you have relationship with 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.120 and like, I have something that I need. 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.120 That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.880 a co sign for that. Okay, I believe Horrible Decisions 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.200 had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.080 lot of people watch in the beginning. I do believe 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.560 Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:39.360 it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.240 like I just had so much time during the pandemic 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.280 to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.080 in money m hm, and so I was like, oh 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.279 my god, I should make the show. I want to 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.080 humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.799 sex lives on it, and a lot of people have 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.480 said like, oh, it's like horrible Decisions on TV, but 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:56.359 it's even. 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.719 It doesn't sound like it. It sounds completely different because 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.680 you're talking about this set, right. 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.680 I'm an interview a lot of the guests we had 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.000 so that I can, you know, show them some love 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.799 and they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.279 totally different and I love doing it. It makes me. 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.400 It really brought me into the world of seeing how 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.360 production works, the larger skill budgets and money. 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.760 So, but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying, 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.440 Like you went out there or did you have a 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:22.560 manager that helped you? 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.520 So it started slow. I didn't have a manager, never 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.640 had an agent ever. 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:30.839 Basically, oh still to this date. 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.440 No, not personally, Damn, you're a gangster. I have a 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.400 person that gives I give them a cut of my 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.680 money if they do pr stuff for me, but if 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.960 they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically, there 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.600 was a guy that reached out to me months back 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.120 before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want to 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.200 do this type of show? I was like, no pandemic 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.800 hits and I was like, you know what, I wonder 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.160 what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making TV? 0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.279 Is TV being made? And we started talking about what 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.879 it would look like if we worked together and came 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.000 up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS at 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.640 the time. Help me package it, oh, help me make 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.359 a bible. And we did it that way. But what 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.560 I will tell anyone that has a good TV idea 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.000 is people that work in development needs shows all the time. 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.799 I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, okay, 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.960 don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that. 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.560 But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.400 make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:35.160 if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.879 a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good, 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.359 not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.080 doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.600 hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.879 show them? So real? You know what I mean. 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.440 I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take it. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.680 Notes, goge you did, But like here it is, here's 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.400 my spread, and this is what I do with this 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.280 type of budget. Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.000 an episode, I could be doing it on the load. 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.080 I could be coming to their homes. I could be 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.160 X y Z. Like, there's so many different ways for 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.120 the things that we're making right now to make them 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.360 next level. Yeah, and so I think that we just 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.480 kind of have to use our network. Like my biggest 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.440 thing with playing chess is making sure that I'm rubbing 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:22.120 elbows with those that can one day need to use 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.560 me for something I need. 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.320 To use you. That's awesome, Yeah. 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.800 Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.200 about someone they were like. He was like, that person 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.800 is such an opportunist, And I was like, I wonder 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.760 if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.080 I let every single person know what the fuck I do. 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.160 I just had a dinner where I sat down next 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.919 to one of the most famous comedians in the world. 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.640 I don't even know if this person can travel on 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.200 a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right. Wow. 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.120 When they asked me what I do, didn't even say 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:54.560 a podcast thing. I was like, I own a production 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.600 studio in New York and La Black owned. We shoot 0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.080 podcasts mainly, but we also have a mobile team Boom. 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.200 Now it's in your brain. Now you know what you 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.120 can use me for, Like that's the job I felt 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.600 like I needed to sell to that person at the time. 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.040 When I talk to TV show, TV networks or people 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.799 that work in Netflix or different things like that I host, 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.879 I do this, I do that right, Like I want 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.560 to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:17.480 rebed elros with. 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.239 Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.200 always say, like, sales is more about paying attention to 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.479 what the customer wants, listening to them, and. 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.400 Then catering to their needs. 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.799 That's just trying to sell someone something that they don't 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.520 want to buy. So even the way you're talking is 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.120 like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah, because 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.240 that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're supposed 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.480 to you know, if someone walks up to me right now, 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.759 I'm gonna think about, you know, what it is they're 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:45.840 gonna need or want from me. 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.040 Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.279 didn't even think about me selling myself in that way, 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:51.239 but like, damn it is. 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:51.799 It is. 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.600 But now opportunists is different, because opportunists are I always 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.240 say I want to be a business person, not a hustler, 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.680 because I feel like a hustler is like, I'm gonna 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.240 take advantage, someone's gonna get a short end of a stick. 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.680 But a business person is like, we're all gonna win. 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.479 You're gonna walk away with your piece of the pie. 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.560 She's gonna walk away with her piece of pie, and 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.359 I'm gonna walk away with my piece, and no one 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:12.280 feels to agreed. 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.719 You can never make someone feel like they're doing you 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:15.200 a favor. 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.160 Yeah, like at all. 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.080 I mean, Charlotte Mine was lucky and lucky enough to 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.360 make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.719 know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.960 literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mane 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.160 is Charlot Mane, But horrible decisions was still good enough 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.600 to where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.000 those numbers, but we sell to add people like I 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.000 don't want to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel like, 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.200 and I'm not talking about that instance, but just anyone like, 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:43.920 thank you so much for giving this to you. Yeah yeah, 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:45.960 when you know your value, Yeah yeah, we have to 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.760 make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way. 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:52.000 But I mean shit. You know, I love fuse to death, 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.799 but I also know my show brings number then and 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.359 I know that's why they treat me well. They love 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.800 me too, like we're definitely doing what we need to 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.960 do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.879 on a network that you know I can be their 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.759 most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.640 HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:11.440 go under the radar. 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.799 I don't think so. Maybe, I honestly don't think so. 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:16.959 Thank you, I don't think so. I'm not even trying 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:33.840 to be not Well, what was your hardest hurdle? 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.120 I think it just to come to day because I 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.239 feel like you have a lot of great pivots. But like, 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.759 where was there a point where you were like I 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:47.239 don't know, hmm, that you seriously like had that conversation off. 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:48.720 I don't know, And it could have been my studio. 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.560 Okay, my studio, which is the best thing I've ever done. Actually, 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.279 my studio gave me the seal of approval to be 0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.239 bigger than just a podcaster, Like that was really when 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.400 I became a businesswoman. No matter how hard Mandy and 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.120 I have worked, I never felt like that and it's 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.879 no shade to her. I don't know if it's because 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.160 with women. I don't know if it's because we talk 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.439 about sex, but like I had to do something else 0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:14.680 for myself to feel like I could be respected. And 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.160 it really shows something about brick and mortar spaces to 0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.480 make people feel very like, oh, they're really doing something, 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.640 which is weird. But it's also because I started getting 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:24.919 other people money, Like. 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.799 Thought, what was the hesitancy, Like where was that hesitancy at? 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.520 Like where was that pain that investment? Right, my partner 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.920 Alex shout out to him. We spent an insane amount 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.279 of money on fucking equipment, which is why we have 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.960 one of the best studios right, Like literally, I was like, 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.680 how can we be charging people this little but like 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.640 our equipment is so fucking expensive, like it doesn't add 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.680 up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, that's 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.920 why everybody's gonna come with us, to know that the 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:56.000 podcasters like us can be there and then the Charlottamanees 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.480 of the world or whoever they may be. David Letterman wasn't. 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.839 Our shit, Oh shit, right, Okay. 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.160 He's like to know these people and okay, you can 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.120 sit amongst them like we're gonna be for all of them, 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.640 and that's really been our brand. I believe that's why 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.400 we're growing. I mean, we get resumes like fucking crazy 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:12.080 every day. 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.120 So how long did it take when you so you 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.040 made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.400 like we are in a rich restaurant. 0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.280 Because the point look at all the food. 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.879 She made, and it's like, I feel like I'm about 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:26.879 to eat an appetizer. 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:27.320 Gormet. 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.640 You try to make it look clean and minimally. 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.600 When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:35.920 with a fork and just eat everything direct. 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:36.799 I know it. 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.879 Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave me like an appetizer. 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.840 It's fucking hot dogs. 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:44.239 Girl. 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.080 I want to see you sit down next to this 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:47.560 mic and spend quality time with me. 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.120 Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but. 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:56.319 Not bad. 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.920 You look, there's the onions. 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.320 I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together. 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.080 Funny enough, my co host talks about Haitian spaghetti and 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.400 it's hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.399 dogs a pasta. But this is kind of good. 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.480 This ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on 0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:14.880 one for it. 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.040 I'll put it together on I don't want to touch 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:18.479 on the plate. 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.400 For all y'all listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.040 I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:26.880 like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.960 a hot dog in a while. But the freaking grilled 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:34.719 onions and mac and cheese cheese is genius. Bro I 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.360 don't know why I've never thought of seasoning up my 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:38.280 mac and cheese. 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.760 But the grilled onions, it's crunchy, it's amazing. 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.600 I am so happy. 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.959 I am very impressible. The only thing is. 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.080 I would maybe add and I don't even know, but 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.400 do you agree? Would you add more salt to the 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:56.160 mac and cheese? 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:57.839 Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't 0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:58.640 want to do that to people. 0:43:58.719 --> 0:43:59.680 Oh okay, that's what. 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.160 The lorries for you. You know, sodium is a bitch nowadays. 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.040 M Plus, there's a lot of salt in that Tony 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:06.520 Sharia whatever name is. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:07.800 Okay. 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.600 So for a girl that came from money, went broke, 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.600 had sugar daddies, and it's self made to the point 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:22.960 of flying your family in from Orlando to La still 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.399 in the early early I don't even want to say 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.000 how early thirties she is because all of us are listening. 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:34.800 Can you believe that much you've accomplished. It's amazing. 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.319 You know. Sometimes I get scared like I'll lose it, 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.040 But then I realize the hunger that I have to 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:45.280 help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:46.480 that I don't think it could happen. 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:47.920 Now do you deal with well? 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.640 You said you have multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.000 sounds to me like you're spread pretty thin. I'm so 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.319 happy you shared that because I always think that maybe 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.480 I'm doing something wrong if I have so many hustles 0:44:58.480 --> 0:44:59.399 going at the same time. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.880 You know, there is something to be said about a 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.439 master of none, But I will say this much what's 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:11.719 worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea. I really 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.319 ride my own wave. I made a studio not because 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.680 there's other podcast studios, because there were no black owned 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.719 ones that were gonna have podcasters run it. I'd never 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.360 been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster. I 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.600 made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do a 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.680 fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic, 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.719 and there were no black shows about sex that were 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.279 hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:38.200 porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.719 hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say. But like, 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:46.000 I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:50.440 think it's worked. So when you do too many different 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:54.200 trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different. 0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.120 We've all seen a cooking show, but your concept is different, right, Yeah. Yeah, 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.919 so it's like you have to have something different added 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.160 to it, and I think that if you don't, you 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.120 then become a master of none because you're just trying 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.319 to do things that other people do. 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.720 Yeah, that's tough. 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.799 I have a fear of I don't even know where 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.640 this fear came from, but when it comes to partnering 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.359 with other people, I feel like my greatest asset is 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.360 my relationships. And it's probably because I have so much integrity. 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.799 I'm like, dude, I won't hurt a full I really 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.040 won't even hurt a fly because I want to treat 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:26.560 people the way I would want to be treated. 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:27.759 So my loyalty is there. 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.160 But when I see like you and Mandy working together 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.040 and you and Alex working together. I'm like, either the 0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.000 integrity on you has got to be super lit or 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.560 how are you managing that partnership? Because I always get nervous, 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.400 like what if the other partner doesn't hold up or 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:44.400 there's a disagreement? 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.080 So how do you? How do you navigate that? 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.120 My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy, right, 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.040 and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends, 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.319 became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again. 0:46:55.360 --> 0:47:00.880 But I think we are so hungry to make money 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.080 that we look past that and we're able to think 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.799 of the greater purpose. Like if I had a co 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:09.279 host that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.400 the job, you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:12.560 self starter like I am too. 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.640 Yeah, so it's not tough. 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:19.239 Like Mandy and I were on tour putting together the 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.200 merch table or doing something with the merchan of the 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.480 VIP things. And you know, if I see her doing something, 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:25.840 I don't want her to do it alone. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.160 Like yeah, because oh nice, okay. 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:29.799 You know, And I think she feels the same for me, 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.000 so we definitely try and trust me, I have a 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.319 time where I didn't even realize how much work she 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.279 was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.000 and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.719 understand that works. I would try to do it on 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:47.800 the creative side. But like I think, for me, with partnerships, 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.319 there's a skill set that someone has that I don't. 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.840 You know, wtf is so about the tech which is 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.759 all Alex and not me. But I do have to 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.399 give myself credit on how we were able to get 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.040 this shit going. I just don't know how much I 0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.520 rent is where the light deep come from. He don't 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.239 know what the fuck going on, which is great, Yeah, 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.600 figure out the other shit. Like I really learned how 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.279 to use our skills and work together in that way, 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.319 and it's definitely been touched. She's one of my tough 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:14.439 he's one of my best friends, and it's like damn, 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.080 now sometimes it's all work. So we really have to 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:18.600 feed that friendship. You know, we have to have a 0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:20.120 night where we get drunk together and have fun and 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.520 not talk about work. We have to really do that 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.439 to enjoy each other and separate it because it's tough. 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:29.200 Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.400 the nick Cannon area. A lot of people don't know this. 0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.520 So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the president of 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:35.560 Black Man, yeah. 0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.480 My stuff was an accident. It was legit. 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.800 I was telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.000 money during the pandemic because I was I was hustling 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.240 all different directions. But anyways, I was trying to build 0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.719 this show and I was like, Dolly, I think you 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.160 should be a part of it. But you know, she 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.600 had this other job offer and she's like should I 0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:56.960 take him? Like, as long as they don't tell you 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.160 to go to work, girl, I'm all about taking all checks. 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:00.839 I didn't know it was the President of the Black 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.560 Effect or whatever. They happened to need a cooking show 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:07.840 and she pitched Eating while Broke and called me like, 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.359 you're gonna kill me? And I was like, why would 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.239 I kill you? And we're actual friends, you know I 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.600 told you. She's like, I told you know, iHeart and 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:20.279 ICM and Charlemagne about Eating while Broke and they loved it. 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.759 And I was like, okay, so where do I kill you? 0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:27.080 She's like, well, they you know, we run a podcast network, 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.360 and your show is you want to do a TV show. 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:33.360 I'm like, Dolly, the table was just built in my garage. 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.279 My neighbors are driving past it. I actually don't even 0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.839 know where this table is gonna go, okay, And I 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.360 think I had just found out I was pregnant or 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.560 I was like borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit, 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.360 you know I was doing. 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:49.799 Illegal weed activity. 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.799 I was hustling in all these different plings, but I 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.680 had this idea that was literally sitting in my garage, 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.840 Like they just finished putting the forks on the table, 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.120 and I'm like, Dolly, I'm about to go broke. And 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.239 I done pitched all my celebrity friends. But I don't 0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:02.960 even know if we're just taking this table to their 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.560 house or how we're even doing it. So why would 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:06.920 I kill you? Like? 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:08.400 And she was like, yeah, well, they want. 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.000 To send you an offer, like and I was like, 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:11.680 She's like, can you send me all your decks and stuff? 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.200 And I was like yeah, I had already had everything made. 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.160 But it was really no reason to kill her. But 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.400 even to this day, like sometimes as friends, I'll have 0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.160 to get on the phone with her and She'll be like, 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.600 I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends. 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.440 So that's how we managed the friendship. It'd be like, 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.439 Dolly ain't joining here nothing about work. 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.120 That's tough. When someone's like cutting that's tough. 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:31.240 Yeah, oh yeah. 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.319 I remember the first time I heard an attitude from 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:34.760 Dolly when I was asking for more money. 0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:36.680 I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me 0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:38.480 no so fast. 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.520 I don't know, but you know, I separate. 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.960 It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not, 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.400 you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.239 remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.919 I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:55.560 I go, fuck it? Where am I going to go? 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.279 Like all this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where? 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.920 Am I gonna go work for someone else? Fucking white dude? 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.040 Like No, I'm gonna make this money with her and 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.400 figure it the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership. 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.719 I recently was at dinner with someone who asked me 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.200 about books and money spending and things like that, and 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.600 I was like, when you talked about integrity, I just 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:20.040 thought about it. Whether I'm angry with Mandy or not. 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.239 I've never thought she would like take money from the 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.520 company or something. Right with d Alex and I were bestie, 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.640 so we're not going to fuck each other over. And 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.840 they were telling me about how someone been sneaking money 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:33.279 out of the their partnership. And I never thought of 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.839 the bad side of what could happen for partnerships, only 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:36.160 the good. 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:36.560 Yea. 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.040 But it's really because I do find strength in numbers, 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.720 and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.400 your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of 0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.560 ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that, 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.880 Like there's so many times Alex has called me and 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.759 is like, yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.680 Lehiman coming in our studios us right, or maybe I'll 0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.120 hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.080 for a week. We got a deal from Amazon. Like 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.960 it's always one or the other, and it really really helps, 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.560 because when you're trying to get all that different money, 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.759 you can't do all things. I don't believe in people 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.080 that are trying to have too much control over everything, 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.279 you know, That's that's when it gets really tough. That's 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.239 when you get burnt out. You've got to be able 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.800 to alleviate some of that. I'm real cheap and I 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.640 don't even be wanting to give money up to an assistant, 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.440 but I realize it helps make your life easier. 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.560 Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.080 have one as it has been helpful. 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.080 Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.920 studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.840 she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:39.800 grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one. 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.400 But my sisters like a real nigga, Like she's not 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.319 like she's not, Oh she's so great. She'll call me 0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:48.759 like these mother, Like she helped me with the thing 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.040 for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she sent 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:52.560 me a screenshot of an email she was like these 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.799 motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, and like it's so 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.040 funny because like you kind of do have to work 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.520 with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know, if 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.040 she was too tidied up, I don't think I can 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.120 do it. Yeah, But like I love partnering and working 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.520 with people that make me feel like I'm at home. 0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:08.799 Yeah. Yeah, because when we. 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.719 Face the world, there's a different person across that, you 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.080 know what I'm saying. So knowing that we hire black 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.560 and hire people that are a vibe like yeah, it's 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:18.240 just it's so great, yeah. 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:22.320 I think, but also finding someone that really is invested 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:24.400 in your vision and your long term goals. I know 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.960 with my crew, I love them, like if I feel 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:32.280 something's de routing, I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together. 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.319 Let's get to the table and find out what's going on. 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.879 But we I genuinely like love my crew, Like. 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:39.520 Everybody that works for me, I would want to have 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.560 a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I don't 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.799 want to hire anybody that makes me fe like getting 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:46.640 my nerves and they're weird or like yeah, I want 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.600 to know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.520 and maybe we don't share those hobbies, like yeah, there 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:53.200 has to be some connection there or I won't maybe 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.799 care as much. And I think my thing to being 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.200 a good boss is giving a fuck yeah, you know, 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.680 writing down everyone's birthdays, making sure I get them a gift, 0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.640 sending them text, telling them I appreciate them. I also 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.600 don't say people work for me. Like, if I'm in 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.160 front of someone, I feel like that's. 0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.040 Do you do you call them like your team? How 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:11.799 do you reference them? 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.879 I'd be like, I say we work together. If someone 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.319 wants to know, oh, I like that. Even if they 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:17.759 walk in the studio and they know on the owner, 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.440 I'd be like, this is Danny, he works with us, 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:21.920 or like that just makes me more comfortable. 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:22.319 Yeah. 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.319 I find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:27.520 of just be like they work for me. 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:28.279 Yeah. 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:30.400 I was at an event the other day and someone said, 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:34.680 just so you know, I'm her boss, and I was like, yeah, 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.080 I don't know if you had to say that. I 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.000 don't even know the point of saying it. But I 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:43.279 think mainly in corporate and maybe not very small smaller. 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.799 Well, I don't want to say an entrepreneurs. I don't know, 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:45.600 but I do see. 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.320 I guess if you're not at the higher level, you 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.839 see that more because I don't even think the executives 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:51.800 be like I'm the boss. 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.959 No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah, 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.160 he was hugging everybody and chilling. I'm like, what, I 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:00.680 don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know that's the 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.280 thing too. I feel like there's this middle of success 0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:04.879 when you try to prove yourself. I can only relate 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.760 to this. When I was kind of getting some decent money, 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:09.960 I wanted to wear leubatons. I wanted to wear my 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.160 fucking one Louis Biton bag everywhere. I needed to throw 0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:13.840 it in your face. 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:14.280 Yeah. 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:16.359 Now I'm kind of like, you know what I mean, 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:16.799 Like I don't know. 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.480 Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori school right now. 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.440 Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay. 0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:23.359 Two thousand dollars a month for my one year old 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.680 to go to school. I should just have it as 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:27.799 a billboard at this point. 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.920 Oh bro, I feel like I'm luxury and that's really 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:32.640 probably a regular person thing. 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:34.879 But I'm like, now that's a lot. 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:37.839 That's better than they care, you. 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.440 Know, I literally, but I brag about it, like and 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.839 I'm pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:46.600 when black people brag when they're rich, Asian people brag 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.560 when they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich, 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.040 and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:52.200 that was like, I pay two games. 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:56.120 I try to find ways in a point where I'm 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:59.920 feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know 0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.520 they making my like it's I can't explain it. But 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:04.319 there's moments where people will make you feel like you 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:05.399 don't belong in the room there. 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:05.680 Yeah. 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.400 Yeah, that's when I might do a little bit of really. 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:10.960 Oh yeah, I'm trying to think. The last time I 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:14.799 haven't I had this story. I told him horrible. It's 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.000 on our Patreon where I came back from Paris and 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:21.360 I was hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.480 It was very small, like thirty people, and after that 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.040 you couldn't tell me shit. It was me and alex 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.920 I was like fuck you bitch, and Mionce with like, 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.160 you know, in the air together. So I just kept 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.480 finding ways to bring it up. So we went to 0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.960 like Spotify dinner that week and everybody's just like, oh, 0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.120 horrible decisions. Never heard of it. Yes, actually I've been 0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:44.520 to France, not that you asked, was there whatever, but 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.040 like i'd be trying to figure out a way, but 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:47.640 I don't know, And I think that's kind of when 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:51.560 you do have and I know that I came from something, 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.040 so I just can't say it came from nothing, but 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.640 like when you had that struggle, you want to know, 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:56.719 you want people to know I belong here too, Yeah, 0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:59.320 because I have a lot of hell of privileged people 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.040 that I know don't really. 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:06.279 Have that that driver or the that that they're the backstory, 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:07.840 they don't need to. 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:12.480 Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.279 I'm in LA, like grew up rich. I think our 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:20.080 family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.200 see her tell you anything about her life because she 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.800 realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Yeah, 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:29.760 like everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.680 her about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like, 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.800 oh yeah. I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah, 0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:37.320 well I used to hang with the Rnall's when I 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:38.840 was a kid who own LVMA. 0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:43.720 That's hilarious And I'm like, okay. 0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:46.520 It's to note the bitch, But like you know, so, 0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:48.360 I'm like, oh, I wonder if it kind of shows 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.920 that you don't really have much. But what I appreciate 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:52.840 is like people that can enjoy with you. Like the 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.080 first person I called after that Beyonce and jay z 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.600 night was charlottmgne cover bed with his wife who was 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.560 eleven thirty at night. Me and Alex are drunk in 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.680 the street or something like, oh, I tell somebody And 0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.880 he was so excited and laughing and he's like, y'all 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.080 in now, I'm like, brouh. The next time I see 0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.000 them one name, but they put it home the Bitch 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.200 for Paris, and it's just this cool, exciting milestone. But 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:14.959 maybe I will get to the place where it doesn't 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.560 matter anymore. 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:20.280 I don't know, hope not, no, no, no no. So 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:24.760 now that you've traveled the world, you owned companies, you're 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:29.600 flying your family out, what advice would you give to someone. 0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.000 That would even just in my shoes? You know? 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:37.120 What advice would you give to someone that's playing hasn't 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:40.000 fully taken off the ground yet and they've been hovering 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:41.000 for a long time. 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.480 I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're 0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:49.200 thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot. 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.560 Whether it be I don't know. This is just made 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:56.000 me thinking right. Eating while Broke is currently a podcast. 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.160 It seems like next up is TV show that seems 0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.000 like what that is? Right? 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.439 But I also want to do touring, which eighty five 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:05.040 South has been like just do it, but Dolly's like 0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.320 hell no, and eighty five for South is like do 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:09.120 that shit? 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:10.760 Why does Dolly say now. 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.400 She thinks I need to spend more time growing my 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:19.040 audience like baby steps and then but I low key 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.600 secretly want to do ice cube in LA. 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.280 I would tell you for this piece of advice, then 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:26.800 I would say, you do it in the middle. You 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:30.400 do one show. You do one show in your hometown 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:32.600 or where your largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right, 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.280 I'm assuming yeah. So it's like you do your LA show, 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:37.720 you don't tour, you do your LA show. You practice, 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:39.680 you get your biggest fan based there, you already have 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:41.640 all your friends come. It's probably where all the talent 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.200 you know is. So you do it right there in LA. 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.440 After you do that, then you kind of get your 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:52.440 feet wet or this space is semi big. Make a 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:57.360 Patreon or invite your top fans, mit fifteen fans really 0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:01.959 and write fifteen fans, have them sitting wide laugh with you. Uh, 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:04.600 maybe put the ingredients out there and be like this 1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:06.760 is what I got, y'all gonna help me make this meal? 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:08.880 Maybe they just shout at you and they share stories 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:09.120 with you. 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.760 When you, guys did your Patreon, what were you what 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.080 was your first Like, did you even think you would 1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:16.680 make money when you first did the Patreon? 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:20.080 No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I 1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.840 mean I'm sure like there you know, there's patreons bigger 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:25.280 than me. But like we did it before. I think 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.320 we were one of the first black popular podcasts that 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:29.760 we know on there. Like we had our first year 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:33.360 of year seven, I mean the first year of your seven, 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:35.040 and we only did it to make more money for 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.080 the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.560 too much. We ain't making no money. Friend of mine 1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:41.720 was like, have you heard of l Chrapo trap House 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:43.760 something like that? It's like a white podcast. I was 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:45.760 like no, and he's like, they make like ninety round Patreon. 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.680 You should do You guys were like, dude, du what's 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:49.560 that right? 1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:51.480 I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:52.120 make twenty. 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:54.840 Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm, get the. 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.920 But to be honest, though, our Patreon, like we started 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:01.760 a high very early of people that really resonated with 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:04.920 Mandy and I because we were corporate girls talking about sex, 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:06.560 and it was kind of the life that if you 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:08.240 didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.960 could see yourself living it like host stories while like 1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:13.960 being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever. 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:16.480 So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:19.840 for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect. 1:01:20.000 --> 1:01:22.840 Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small. 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:28.280 Yeah, So when it got higher, Mandy and I just 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:31.800 started spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:34.240 it became like we were just talking to fans instead 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:37.240 of like doing a show. You know, like we have 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:40.160 so so many guests now that people that really fucked 1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:44.000 with Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:47.400 of people enjoy those episodes more. I love like a 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.960 better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.040 be on zoom. I'd be hungover shit. I think I 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:54.360 was still mollied out on one episode. I was like, 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.960 oh my god, you guys didn't sleave anyway, Like people 1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:00.360 like that shit when you're very raw, and so we 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:03.000 offer that so it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.400 write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now, 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.600 figure out where you talk to them the most, have 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:10.000 them come and watch. Well. 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:13.000 I think this season is the most I've seen fans 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.560 reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll 1:02:15.560 --> 1:02:18.439 get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit. 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:22.120 We love this sir. Yeah, or like I promise you're 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:23.680 asking the questions that we want. 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:25.960 You to hear, and I'll be like, thank you, because 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:28.880 I for sure had a shitty day today and I 1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:31.600 really want to jump off a bridge. But that message 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:36.360 just like literally, I know it's random, but you help them. Yeah, 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:39.080 I'm like, you taketed the right time, and I will 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:42.000 respond that like, Yo, the timing couldn't have been better, 1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:44.440 thank you for saving my life. 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:50.360 Fans too, like we look at other people's numbers and 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:52.640 comparison is a thief and joy. 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:53.720 Oh, I definitely do. 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:56.840 I'll be like, look at them, but you know now, 1:02:56.840 --> 1:02:59.440 I look at y'all and I'll be like, take notes. 1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:05.600 Change when we're in line to them, right, Like I 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:07.840 remember when call her Daddy made the sixty thousand dollars 1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:12.960 sixty million right, and I was like, oh my god. 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:14.720 I'll never get me. I was saying ship like that. 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:18.320 I don't have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much? 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:19.800 Like why am I talking like this? 1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:20.600 You know? 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:23.760 And we really have to pour into ourselves better because 1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:26.360 we always are looking at something else. I do it 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:30.360 with my body doing my hair. Shit, I was almost like, 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:31.880 oh my god, my hair is not brain different. The 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:34.560 got my hair like thinking about all this little ship 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.600 that doesn't fucking matter. And it's like we need to 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:40.680 really learn how to be happy with ourselves because like, 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:56.760 I think social media has bucked me up. I'm getting 1:03:56.760 --> 1:04:02.400 way better at it, but like body, hair, clothes and success, 1:04:02.720 --> 1:04:04.720 they're all the things I see on Instagram and think 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.960 I'm not doing well enough with h and this is 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:10.320 fucked up. But it did happen to me. I went 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.600 to solid Core, which is this like plate's ish cool 1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:17.480 thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York, Big Cities, Atlanta, 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:20.240 and there's a girl on Instagram I follow that. I 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:23.200 always thought she was like so fucking insanely hot. When 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:25.160 I was in the workout, she was right next to 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:28.320 me and I recognized her halfway through. She was really struggling. 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:30.560 And it's not like it's something to make fun of. 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.480 You're already working out. But I got in the car 1:04:32.520 --> 1:04:35.200 and I thought, oh my god, I have I'm stronger 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:37.200 than I thought. I was right. I'm looking at this 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:39.360 girl all the time on my timeline, thinking she's the 1:04:39.360 --> 1:04:41.560 baddest bitch in the world. And I had something like 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:43.120 she even said to me. I was like, damn bitch, 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.280 she was getting it right. We don't know each other, 1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:47.360 and I was like, wow, there's something we all have 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.200 that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking and you're 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:55.920 thinking that, it's not shit me. I want kids so bad. Really, yes, 1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:57.960 I would love to have kids, like I would love 1:04:58.000 --> 1:04:58.280 to have. 1:04:58.920 --> 1:04:59.920 Over to you for a weekend. 1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:01.960 Oh my mom would love to watch over. My mom 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:03.240 love taking somebody's baby. 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:04.720 Oh really, Oh she's in LA. 1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:06.800 That's perfect because I ain't got no family in I 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:08.240 pay every minute a well. 1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:10.120 Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:12.240 she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby, 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:14.560 Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this 1:05:14.640 --> 1:05:16.400 damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby proud anyway, 1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:20.640 I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:23.360 problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:24.360 I think about that. I think. 1:05:24.440 --> 1:05:24.560 Uh. 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:28.800 I was at a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:31.760 needs her, and I was like, like three people had 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:33.600 asked me for a picture when I was in the auditorium, 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:37.200 and I remember thinking, like, I wonder if they think 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:39.880 I'm like living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn, 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:41.760 you came from LA to be here. Someone said that 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:43.720 to me, and I was like, when I could like 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:45.640 die to be one of the parents in the front. 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:49.000 Oh wow, But you never know, right, Like there's always 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:51.520 something we all want. I think we all need that 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:53.480 little drama in our lives to keep going. 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:56.040 You think so oh, like the when you say drama, 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:57.560 like the need to want something more? 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:00.840 Yeah, how are we going to be autopilot if we 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:02.280 have all we want? Like what do you want? 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:02.960 Oh? 1:06:03.080 --> 1:06:04.040 I want this guy's limit. 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:06.040 It's funny though, because I used to always want like 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:08.000 the marriage and the baby, because I always felt like 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:10.600 I was good at business and then I just sucked 1:06:10.600 --> 1:06:13.760 at personal. But now that I experienced marriage and the baby, 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:16.720 I'm like, I think I'm gonna stay in my business 1:06:16.800 --> 1:06:18.760 life because I suck at it. It's just like yo, 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:20.640 you know what I have to chop it up to Like, 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:23.360 it's just not my forte. I don't know why I 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:25.280 can't master my personal but I could. 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:28.280 It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:29.040 can control. 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:32.400 Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it because I feel like in business, 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:34.520 like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working, 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:39.120 pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.320 be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:41.920 what to say. 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:45.479 Is tough. Yeah, money we can control, Like I feel 1:06:45.520 --> 1:06:47.080 like I can make a million dollars easier than I 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:49.120 can find a good person to date. I mean, it's 1:06:49.160 --> 1:06:51.880 fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that. 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:54.800 I feel like when it's things you can control, like 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.840 you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's 1:06:57.840 --> 1:06:59.640 people out there that are working hard as fucking or 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:02.800 not getting there, but like you could possibly take up 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:04.680 another hustle to find some more money. 1:07:04.720 --> 1:07:04.919 Yeah. 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:07.560 But I was taking pictures out of Oo pizzeria on 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:09.760 the side because they would give me one hundred dollars 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:12.240 a night, okay for five hours, and I would just 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:14.840 take pictures, pictures and I would flip them a little bit. 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:16.560 You know what I'm saying. The pictures of fifteen, but 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:20.640 i'd tell people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:22.760 that hustle. I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs. 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:26.080 That was a caddy girl one day, Like I told 1:07:26.160 --> 1:07:26.640 you that. 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:29.080 But that's what I'm saying. Like, do you think now 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:31.840 do you think entrepreneurs are like born out the womb 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:33.960 or do you think they could go to college and 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:35.320 then become an entrepreneur. 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:39.640 I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone. Yeah, because I 1:07:39.680 --> 1:07:45.720 think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:47.880 nine to five, I think the goal for me, before 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:50.920 realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.200 make two fifty at a. 1:07:53.120 --> 1:07:55.200 Corporate I'm still praying to hit that too fuch at 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:55.919 a corporate job. 1:07:56.040 --> 1:07:58.080 Oh, at a corporate That to me would have made 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:01.080 me not do anything else. Okay, because the one seventy 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:03.880 five was great. I was living a great apartment and traveling, 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:05.920 but my parents needed help and I was like, oh, 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:07.960 I need more money for my parents. If I had 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.160 two fifty, that's money I could have to help them. 1:08:10.200 --> 1:08:11.440 And if I want to have a kid, I can 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.439 live in this money, but mind you in New York. 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.120 Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city might be 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:20.120 a million dollars. Yeah, my rent even then was twenty five. 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:23.479 It's crazy, bro Yeah. But I say all that to 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.720 say nine to fivers are making a lot more money 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.080 than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:31.599 out here really struggling. It's tough. But I think it's 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:33.639 because some people are chasing a dream that they think 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:35.240 they should do when really that's not it. 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:39.599 How would they identify the dream that is it though? 1:08:39.760 --> 1:08:41.280 And from the dream that isn't. 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:44.920 I think one if it feels like a passion, are 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:45.680 you happy doing it? 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:46.720 Like? 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:49.800 Are you doing it because you actually love this? Like 1:08:49.840 --> 1:08:51.360 why do you love making? Eating while broke? 1:08:52.160 --> 1:08:56.040 I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I 1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:58.000 have some rich friends and they always tell me they 1:08:58.000 --> 1:09:00.160 were like in jail somewhere or they were so on 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:03.400 the ask somewhere, and I'm like, wait, you and you 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:06.439 live in the seven thousand square Foo mansion in La Oh, 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:08.560 tell me more. And I just love it. Like I 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:12.240 would hang out and I just love the stories. I'd 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:13.519 be like, Okay, but you know. 1:09:13.760 --> 1:09:17.160 And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired. 1:09:17.280 --> 1:09:17.760 But I was. 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:20.519 Definitely lucky because I felt like the friends that I have, 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:23.400 like if I'm like, Damn, this bill was high, I'd 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:25.200 be like, you wouldn't understand it, be like try me. 1:09:25.240 --> 1:09:26.600 I'd be like a thousand bucks to be like, no, 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:27.440 that bill's. 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:31.160 High, you know. I'd really and they'd be like, no, 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:32.320 it's high, you know. 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:35.040 And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some 1:09:35.120 --> 1:09:38.320 friends that really like that. I felt like, damn, you're 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:40.040 hanging out with me, Like if you and I hung out, 1:09:40.400 --> 1:09:43.000 I would be lowkey geeked just because you have a 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.439 great personality, but I would also be lowkey geeked because 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:47.599 I'm like I look up to you, like I definitely 1:09:47.600 --> 1:09:48.439 admire you, you know. 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:50.720 I feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like, 1:09:51.840 --> 1:09:55.880 are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.040 like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours, 1:09:58.080 --> 1:09:59.760 you're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like it's 1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:01.080 still appears. 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:02.280 Well, you're more than just a pot. 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:06.400 Like in my eyes, well you and Mandy accomplished was great, 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:09.280 But you gotta think you're a beautiful attractive woman in 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:12.160 the entertainment industry. I have sidebar conversations all the time. 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:14.000 I'll leave a meeting, I'll be like, this person wants 1:10:14.000 --> 1:10:15.600 to fuck, and my friends will be like, how do 1:10:15.640 --> 1:10:17.360 you know, and be like, Bro, I've been in this 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:19.759 game way too long. I can tell by the questions 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:22.280 that the hints they want to fuck, and then I 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:25.519 gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman, Okay, then 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:28.599 you're an entertainment. Then you're an entrepreneurs, then you're handling 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:30.880 all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales, 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.080 nothing excites me, you know how you get when I 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:34.920 hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:37.679 is a it says, this is a real, real time, 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:41.559 you know. But so I look at someone like you 1:10:41.640 --> 1:10:43.639 and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:47.280 like you know, like you know geeks, and same with 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:49.559 my friends. Like I have my homie day Storm, I'll 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:51.720 hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:53.719 only hang out when we work out, which sucks because 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:59.120 his workouts are absolutely terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts. 1:10:59.800 --> 1:11:01.759 Like if I want to have a talk a day Storm, I'm. 1:11:01.640 --> 1:11:03.680 Like, I'll be at your house at four to work out, 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:06.040 and it'll be the worst workout of the century, you know, 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:09.880 But I still look up to him, and I'll still 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:12.240 be like geeked, Like yo, I could walk into your 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:15.200 house or borrow your house for the weekend. And but I, 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:17.240 even though we're friends, I still look up to you, 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:20.439 and you're vulnerable. But they're the real inspiration behind my show. 1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:24.080 They're realize stories and realize advice. 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:26.640 And honestly sharing that to the world and then you 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:30.280 receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:32.600 the passion that making you feel good learning in the 1:11:32.640 --> 1:11:35.759 middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going, 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:38.800 you know what I'm saying. But also I think the 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:42.759 largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:44.920 job or a steady gig, they leave it for the 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:48.960 passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that, 1:11:49.040 --> 1:11:51.719 Like I was working eighty hours a week doing horrible 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:54.719 and yeah, you know, literally coming in with my suitcase 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:56.040 to the office, like, oh, I went to go see 1:11:56.040 --> 1:11:58.439 my parents, but really I had a fucking four hundred 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:00.799 seat show that we fill down and like that. Today 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:03.519 is different now it's double right and it feels great, 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.759 but like, nah, I had to do both. I think 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:12.439 living in the entertainment industry today is interesting because it 1:12:12.479 --> 1:12:16.840 could be anybody, right, Like, influencers have really ruined fame? 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:18.240 You think so? 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.679 Yes, I guess I could see that. It's weird because 1:12:21.680 --> 1:12:23.960 I see, like I feel like they're self made and 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:25.680 they work very hard, like when you look at the 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:27.040 behind the scenes, they work hard. 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:30.200 But I definitely will say I don't know. I would 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:31.519 like to hear your perspective on it. 1:12:31.800 --> 1:12:39.560 I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless, 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:43.880 the content creation as a form of a talent. Like 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:47.639 if the Internet is gone, then where do you take 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:49.680 it and what do you do with it? You know, 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:51.640 I have a big influencer that reached out to me. 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:54.160 They're not going broke or anything like they're making like 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:58.040 maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:00.439 and we're like, I need you to have dinner with 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:01.880 me or some shit and influences me to do some 1:13:02.000 --> 1:13:05.000 other shit. Because I realized this is like just what 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:06.840 if Instagram doesn't want me to do ads anymore? What 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:10.320 if Instagram stops advertisments for influencers, what if the hashtag 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:12.639 goes away? Like she was terrified, and it was when 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:15.040 TikTok was about to get banned or something, and I 1:13:15.160 --> 1:13:17.640 was like, damn. I'm like, I don't know half of 1:13:17.680 --> 1:13:20.760 my nas year off of heigi ads. But she was right, 1:13:20.880 --> 1:13:23.559 like I didn't do anything else. I've just been learning 1:13:23.560 --> 1:13:26.200 this one skill and that shit is tough because like, 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:28.240 I don't know, I wouldn't want my kids to be 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:31.720 an influencer. I think it also inflates when I say 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:35.200 it ruined fame, like you have movie stars, actors, actresses, 1:13:35.200 --> 1:13:38.200 and even podcasters make fame to me, like it's not real. 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.439 Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:44.160 thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo, 1:13:44.200 --> 1:13:47.040 if your bank account still read zero, who gives a 1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:48.160 fuck about some likes? 1:13:48.240 --> 1:13:51.080 But the same shit is weird because the likes and 1:13:51.120 --> 1:13:53.080 all this stuff makes you think you're better than you 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:56.920 are when there's so many more of you, so you 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:58.919 really have to find a thing that makes you different. 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:02.080 Like honest, I follow so many girls that are just 1:14:02.160 --> 1:14:04.200 hot and kind of look the same because of their 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:06.320 clothes or their workouts. Or whatever. I don't think I 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:07.040 know their names. 1:14:07.920 --> 1:14:08.760 Really no. 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:11.759 I remember sitting at Lucy and it's my favorite restaurant 1:14:11.760 --> 1:14:13.400 New York. I always go there in the East Village 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:16.439 and I was looking at this girl and I tapped 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:18.240 her and I was like, do I know you? Do 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.759 we have a school together? Genuinely didn't know. I feel 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.000 like I know you, And she was like, oh, I'm 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:26.840 an influencer. I was like, maybe I follow you. What's 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:29.600 your name? Didn't ring a bell? Looked at it and 1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:31.479 I was like, damn, I've been following this bitter a minute. 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:32.040 But that's it. 1:14:32.080 --> 1:14:34.720 You're not even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:37.759 just grid post after grid post up or something something. 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:42.000 That's why people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty V. 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:45.519 They fucking stick out because we know what they're doing. 1:14:46.000 --> 1:14:49.559 Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know. Well, 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:51.719 I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt, 1:14:51.840 --> 1:14:53.120 she's she's also hard. 1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:54.639 She's like a hustler too. 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:58.640 I would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.920 an influencer. Know she started that way, you know you could. 1:15:02.400 --> 1:15:05.000 I feel the same with like b Simone, but something that. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:06.400 I have something that they do. 1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:09.519 But I will say I honestly say like and it 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:12.400 could be just me vibed, but I would say almost 1:15:12.520 --> 1:15:17.280 ninety percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:19.920 I'll be like after interview reps, I'll be like, Wow, 1:15:20.000 --> 1:15:24.000 I called bullshit, and I won't say who, but there 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:26.280 was a couple of episodes where my team I'll be like, damn, 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:29.120 that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than 1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:31.000 what they were. And then when I got in, I 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:33.000 was like, you don't know your shit, You're a fake. 1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:35.080 Maybe some people just get lucky. 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:38.000 They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey, 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:40.320 your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you. 1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:42.400 Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved. 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:45.879 Strange when people don't credit those that helped along the way. 1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:47.679 I think it's completely strange. 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:48.479 Do you know one of them? 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:50.680 By the way, if you're on my show and I 1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:53.439 catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests, 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:55.479 but I will go me even the show raps, I'll 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:58.639 be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because 1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:01.600 their story isn't adding up, And I will literally you 1:16:01.600 --> 1:16:02.439 could ask my crew. 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:04.040 I will be wait, it was. 1:16:04.040 --> 1:16:07.560 Mine, the sugar Daddy. 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:09.479 Your story was as real as they get. 1:16:09.520 --> 1:16:12.080 But you know, you know you could tell because they'll 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:14.280 be a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:16.240 part of the story where you'd be like that that 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:19.120 doesn't line up. There's something missing there. I can always 1:16:19.160 --> 1:16:21.280 tell because I like, well, you. 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:23.760 Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show, 1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:26.000 right the highlight reels that they need to show. 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:26.800 The struggle on this show. 1:16:27.160 --> 1:16:31.519 On this show, you gotta tell me to credit your wife. 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:33.639 If you're not giving other people their flower, it never 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:37.240 takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlottagne 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:39.160 makes me do that more than anyone like. It makes 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:41.960 me thank my team so much. Like I've never seen 1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:45.479 anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even when 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:48.240 I pay him a compliment, just no one else around 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:51.880 Damn you kill this shit man. That was some though. 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:56.719 I'm like, oh, okay, I've never really I've seen Charlomage 1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:58.840 one time, so I literally saw him, was like, thank 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:00.000 you so much for everything you do for me. 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:03.519 Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta. 1:17:03.600 --> 1:17:05.439 Yeah, that was it. And that's all I said was 1:17:05.520 --> 1:17:06.200 thank you. 1:17:06.240 --> 1:17:12.200 What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic. And 1:17:13.000 --> 1:17:15.439 I think I made a joke on a podcast and 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:17.760 I tested it once. I was like, man like, they 1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:21.280 were like, who do you think is someone that you've 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:23.759 met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different? 1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:26.320 I was like, Charlomanne answers the phone every time. I 1:17:26.320 --> 1:17:28.880 think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like, he's 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:31.240 literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast. I 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:35.280 was up, he's monnies me, Like, just really wants to 1:17:35.280 --> 1:17:37.800 make sure he's accessible to people that he cares about. 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:40.960 And I think that's what's inspired me to be a 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:45.160 really good leader and just all around good person when 1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:47.800 it comes to people that have paved the way, because like, 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:49.960 we don't see that, we see a lot of I 1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:51.840 I I, yeah, you know. 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:52.040 Well. 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:54.439 Also, I think the cool thing about him is that 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:57.719 he has like an all black woman team pretty much, 1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:00.800 and he treats all those women great. Because I've worked 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:03.200 for other people and with other people in the industry 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:05.719 and it ain't like that it's more of the boy's club. 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:08.960 I see the boys getting blessed and the woman getting dirty. 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:12.200 And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah, 1:18:12.280 --> 1:18:14.599 Like I heard him on a I had a call 1:18:14.640 --> 1:18:18.960 with him for something else, and the other person on 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:22.240 the other end of the call was very like, what's 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:25.080 the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of 1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:27.400 themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:31.360 was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think 1:18:31.800 --> 1:18:33.800 visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib, 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:35.719 but he was like on a chair on a porch, 1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:38.320 just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is 1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:40.360 suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for 1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:41.720 me to be on this call. Just I could tell 1:18:41.760 --> 1:18:44.120 you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of 1:18:44.200 --> 1:18:47.599 himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow, 1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:49.760 he didn't even feel the need to like do it 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:52.680 up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this. 1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:56.639 His brand is so raw, and I think we have 1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:59.920 to be that way. We can't try to be the 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:02.840 person that we think other people would like, because they'll 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:04.960 smell it just like you do. You know what I'm saying. 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:06.880 People smell that all day every day. You could be 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:09.120 a casual listener that's in that YouTube that's like this 1:19:09.160 --> 1:19:09.880 person's a liar. 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:11.479 Yeah, people clock it. Yeah. 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:13.679 And for you to know that as someone that's bringing 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:16.559 these people in, like I think that says a lot. 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:18.160 Yeah. 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:19.280 Yeah. 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:21.120 Eventually we'll get to the. 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:23.920 Space where there's like I can actually call bullshit on 1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:27.280 the mic. I'm not there yet, I know, but there 1:19:27.280 --> 1:19:31.240 have been a couple where I'm like, bull shit, what 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:31.680 about you? 1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:34.240 Being like, there's got to be a. 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:37.160 Oh I go in and you can tell because they 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:40.040 won't answer the question. And that's how I know it's bullshit. 1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:42.479 I'll be like, Okay, you're just boying. I'll ask seven 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:44.880 different ways. I'm like, Okay, I call bullshit, but I 1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:47.160 won't say it on the mic yet. I'm not there yet. 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:51.840 Plus I gotcha host, They're like, oh, like be there 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:52.360 for the moment. 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:53.040 Yeah. 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:57.040 And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you know 1:19:57.160 --> 1:19:59.519 with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability a 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:03.960 little bit deep, and I like to say to everybody 1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:06.040 it's a safe space. Like if I think there's something 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:07.920 that you're going to say on our show that I 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:09.920 think is going to ruin your career or cancel you 1:20:10.479 --> 1:20:12.439 do you don't even have to send your publicists or 1:20:12.439 --> 1:20:14.840 whoever over to like, oh my god, Colleen or beg me, 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:17.200 I'm going to remove it just on game. I'm just 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:18.559 you shared your story. 1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:22.519 I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:26.040 moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:28.120 want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:33.519 about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah, 1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:36.880 you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:39.920 in your space to like do that m h. And 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:42.479 she's just sticking out of my mind right now. I'm 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:45.400 not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's a 1:20:45.600 --> 1:20:50.800 it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe she's 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:52.840 on more streams than almost who knows, But like, I 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:53.960 don't know if I could do it. 1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:56.240 That's how I feel about honestly, like Jason Lee, to 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:57.840 be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd 1:20:57.880 --> 1:20:59.280 be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:01.599 this conversation with little brother all the time, and I'm 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:04.160 always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out, Like 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:06.280 because I look at such and such kind of like 1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:07.960 how you look at social media, be like, look at 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:11.679 this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't 1:21:11.680 --> 1:21:14.000 give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.680 they Jason Lee. 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:18.200 At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I 1:21:18.240 --> 1:21:19.479 think you know what you're getting when you go on 1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:24.000 the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like 1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:26.880 ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone 1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:27.639 keep going on there? 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:29.720 Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but. 1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:31.519 You don't know what she's the black girl that had 1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:33.639 the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:37.559 and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there. 1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:39.240 She was her famous one. 1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:40.960 But what was she ask them? 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.880 She would just ask them questions that would make them 1:21:43.880 --> 1:21:47.520 look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:49.120 and had them point out someone She was like, oh, 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:51.040 so you think that white people are superior type shit? 1:21:51.120 --> 1:21:52.920 Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of 1:21:52.920 --> 1:21:55.760 those and I think like people prepare themselves for those 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:57.639 funny Marco. I don't know how people. 1:21:57.479 --> 1:21:59.559 Say what that nes is that the one is where 1:21:59.600 --> 1:22:02.840 the guy just says like insulting things or something kind 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:05.479 of yeah, because I saw that show and I was like, look, 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:06.960 I just love that show period. 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:08.439 But like it's content. 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:10.320 Yeah, it's content is very good. 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.880 I think maybe it's just content that I can't make, 1:22:12.960 --> 1:22:15.160 but yeah, you know, it's hard for me to push 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:18.800 unless I think something's wrong, Like I do Man on 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:21.880 the Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this 1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:24.040 guy talked about how he had another girl to work 1:22:24.120 --> 1:22:26.320 or do something and I was like, he's black. Oh, 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:27.519 all kind of girls you day, and he's like, I 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:31.080 prefer white. And then I can see the camera crewisers 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:34.479 in the back, like oh, like really, he was like, yeah, 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:36.360 I just updated a black girl and they're really crazy. 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:38.400 I was like, okay, so have you ever met a Karen? 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.120 He was like, well, I don't think that type of way. Oh, 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:43.400 but there are crazy white women. 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:48.120 But basically right now, my future ex husband he loves 1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:51.640 white women. But his thing is that black women's standards 1:22:51.680 --> 1:22:55.920 are are higher or like they're not as easy as 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:58.679 a white girl, and so he lives for the white girls. 1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:00.519 He lives for that's. 1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.479 Literally only cheated, I mean the white women, to the 1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:05.400 point that I was like, you must, yeah, you must, 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.160 you're dating me, So your mom is happy. Yeah, and 1:23:08.160 --> 1:23:10.680 then I realized, oh, maybe I was just light skinning up. 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:14.479 Like, do you This is completely random, but I have 1:23:14.520 --> 1:23:16.719 a pet peeve about dating a guy that only dates 1:23:16.760 --> 1:23:17.439 mixed girls. 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:18.519 I can't do it. 1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:19.320 I haven't missed. 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:20.519 I feel like you haven't. 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.439 Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until. 1:23:23.240 --> 1:23:25.160 You don't know, but when you find I know. 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:27.080 For me, I just feel like there's a little bit 1:23:27.120 --> 1:23:29.720 of colorism issues there, Like dudes that are like I 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:33.360 only like light skin I'm like, all right, I don't know, 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:35.519 that's weird. But I started to think when my ex 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:41.200 husband my future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just 1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:43.400 likes white girls and he's just saying that as like 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:44.200 a cover up. 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:46.800 No, I think you're right. 1:23:47.120 --> 1:23:53.120 He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah, exactly, 1:23:53.200 --> 1:23:56.040 like on some real shit. I think it's kind of 1:23:56.080 --> 1:23:58.200 scary because you really have to clock them as light 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:00.200 skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like 1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:02.600 this shit is not cute for like a man that 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:05.000 you're dating to only date. I had a guy tell 1:24:05.080 --> 1:24:08.280 me once that I was acting dark skin He told 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.240 me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly. 1:24:11.320 --> 1:24:13.840 Like most mixed girls. Wow, And he was like, you 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.559 talk different. Wow. 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:20.639 Yeah I don't like that. Yeah I don't. I won't. 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:21.080 I won't. 1:24:21.160 --> 1:24:23.920 Well right now, thank god, I'm like one hundred percent 1:24:23.960 --> 1:24:25.960 focused on not dating, which is this is the longest 1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:26.799 I've ever been seeing. 1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:28.479 That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to 1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:30.040 act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.000 the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone. 1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:37.720 I like how you be positioned in it too. I 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:41.320 want to date so bad, man, but it's it's tough, 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:42.520 and honestly. 1:24:42.840 --> 1:24:46.000 How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly, 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:48.160 I'm terrible. If it wasn't for my high school friends 1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:50.920 scooping me off the floor behind closed doors. 1:24:51.240 --> 1:24:52.800 Girl, he's gonna. 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:55.480 Be okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, I have responsibilities, 1:24:55.560 --> 1:24:57.000 like hate to get more of it. But the only 1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:58.760 things that have kept me from killing myself is my 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:01.719 dog and my team. And it's not because they're encouraging 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:04.920 me to stay, you know, and it's like, hey, we 1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:06.519 need you to be alive so we can make money. 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:08.680 But like, literally I think about them and I'm like 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:10.679 one of the people that worked for me I recently 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:13.800 found out used to be homeless and thanks me all 1:25:13.840 --> 1:25:15.599 the time for being able to do things for their 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:19.839 mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:21.640 texts from a lot of our staff at two in 1:25:21.680 --> 1:25:23.200 the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:26.439 these niggas is wrong and it's such a good feeling. 1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:28.920 But I think about that. I think about that when 1:25:28.920 --> 1:25:31.240 I'm getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah, 1:25:31.360 --> 1:25:33.640 you know what I mean, Like, you are helping all 1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:35.519 of these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.160 the world. And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit. 1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:40.280 I was just being trauma queen one day. I was like, 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:41.800 I don't want to be here anymore. And I looked 1:25:41.800 --> 1:25:43.240 at her. I was like, who's gonna feed me up 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:47.559 with those little things? Like really got to bring you back. 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:50.240 But when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that 1:25:50.280 --> 1:25:53.280 are listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well, 1:25:53.280 --> 1:25:56.479 who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self? 1:25:56.960 --> 1:25:57.160 Yeah? 1:25:57.520 --> 1:26:03.320 Right? Everything is momentary. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:05.040 when you get in a big check, it might be momentary. 1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:05.640 Like everything is. 1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:07.639 Kind of momentary. It's just that feeling that will last 1:26:07.960 --> 1:26:10.160 for a little bit, as strong emotions only for a 1:26:10.200 --> 1:26:12.160 little bit, even when you're crazy in love. It just 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.519 kind of lasts for a period of time. And I 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:17.680 think that when we're down, we feel like it's the end. 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:19.880 But you've gotta have faith in your future self. 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:24.000 Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. 1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:28.040 No, now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo, 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:31.160 if you leave and you the number one gangst the 1:26:31.240 --> 1:26:34.479 soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze 1:26:34.600 --> 1:26:35.000 than you? 1:26:35.680 --> 1:26:37.160 Then then what's she gonna have? 1:26:37.479 --> 1:26:41.640 And I'm like, shit, I guess, I guess that's it. 1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:44.519 You know what I'm saying. But I do think too though. 1:26:44.560 --> 1:26:46.320 Sometimes when you are having a bad day and you 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:48.240 have all these responsibilities, I'll. 1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:49.720 Be like, well, how can I go? I got like 1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:52.519 sixteen things planned next week that I have to get done. 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:54.280 I can't even take the one day off. 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:58.040 This is why they said they all done. There say 1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.960 this thing about how you have to have something for 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:05.639 two week, month, No, I think next days, week or month. 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:07.920 I can't remember what it is, but it's basically so 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:10.040 that you don't get to where you feel like you 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.759 have nothing. There has to be something on the calendar, 1:27:12.800 --> 1:27:15.400 whether it be a workout, whether it be a nail, 1:27:15.760 --> 1:27:17.920 something you scheduled for yourself. Even if it's not a trip, 1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:20.479 it's dinner at a cool place. You gotta have something 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:23.320 because if you don't have that, then you feel hopeless, 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:25.759 like we need to have those things. My mother actually 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:28.240 gets like that. My mom's in her seventies. She gets 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:29.080 so bored. 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:31.120 I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom. 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:35.920 Oh my god, baby something to do bad. She does 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:38.479 it with random people in like restaurants, especially if they're 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:41.439 like black and cool. Shed just be looking at the baby. 1:27:42.320 --> 1:27:44.720 She won't talk either. She'll just start to do this 1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:47.679 while the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking 1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:47.840 to me. 1:27:47.840 --> 1:27:54.040 And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good 1:27:54.080 --> 1:27:55.200 time having you that. 1:27:55.360 --> 1:27:57.559 I hope that now that you're in LA, or when 1:27:57.600 --> 1:27:59.120 you pop in LA, you hit me up. 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:02.559 Please do and hopefully you know if you pass a 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:04.200 rich dude and you want to pull me to my 1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:08.320 first school, I want to. I want to experience I've 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:10.920 never done it girl arrangement. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:13.479 I will. I'm serious. 1:28:13.520 --> 1:28:14.799 I want to Chuggard at your website. 1:28:14.840 --> 1:28:15.280 I want to. 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:17.000 I'm gonna check it out and I'm gonna be texting 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:18.760 you girl. You would not believe it. 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:23.920 Financial domination, Financial domination. You got to make people feel 1:28:23.920 --> 1:28:26.200 like shiit online and they just send you money for 1:28:26.280 --> 1:28:26.639 doing it. 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:31.040 Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay picks, 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:35.519 pay picks, but thank you for taking time out of 1:28:35.560 --> 1:28:38.000 be a crazy schedule to come visit and cook for 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:42.040 me before we close out? Can you tell everybody all 1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:44.920 the different assets that you have and how to keep 1:28:45.000 --> 1:28:45.400 up with you. 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:48.160 Yeah, I'm on tour right now. Horrible Decisions. This is 1:28:48.160 --> 1:28:51.280 our final tours, the climax. We're not breaking up, we 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:53.880 just really are Like, touring is a lot of work. 1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:56.000 Can't do it. So check us out on her hive 1:28:56.040 --> 1:28:58.640 dot com and Horrible Decisions. Visit if you're an up 1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:01.559 and coming podcaster of a studio in New York and LA. 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:04.080 It's super affordable. You can literally record for sixty bucks 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.280 if you wanted to, or a thousand if you're rich. 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:09.920 And my TV show Sex, I was confused stream that 1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:14.160 motherfucker because that's the place that got the most mouthed 1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:15.040 to be so. 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:19.080 Really just literally sit in streaming not really help. No, 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:20.479 I want to watch it. 1:29:20.479 --> 1:29:21.200 It's really fun. 1:29:21.280 --> 1:29:22.720 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it. 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:25.639 It's a cute show. I go to a brothel this season. 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:28.200 It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really. 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:29.519 Oh yeah, I sat down with a client. 1:29:29.680 --> 1:29:31.599 Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy. 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:34.240 My favorite episode of all time on there was when 1:29:34.240 --> 1:29:37.240 my mom did phone sex. That was crazy. 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:39.759 I feel like I would be greatest phone sex. 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:41.599 By the way, maybe you would, it's I would. 1:29:41.760 --> 1:29:42.880 I would be phenomenal. 1:29:43.080 --> 1:29:45.080 Just so I covered the business that does it. She 1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:46.759 teaches women how to keep them on the phone. 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:49.200 And like, I was in a celibate relationship, so I 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:49.919 will say. 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:53.320 I just got out of a smular relationship. 1:29:53.479 --> 1:29:56.200 Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it. 1:29:56.320 --> 1:29:58.559 I have hundred and then I got with my husband, 1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:00.720 who was like the opposite, just a SuperH and I 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:01.080 was like. 1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:02.439 This is the best. 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:05.160 But it came out of a celibate relationship and ran 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:06.320 right to the opposite. 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:08.719 Oh no, yeah, you need to do it three times 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:08.960 a week. 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:10.800 Yeah. 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.920 But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode of 1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:14.960 Eating while Broke. 1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:19.519 I'm your girl. Colleen, and this is Wheezy Bye, y'all. 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:19.880 Bys. 1:30:40.600 --> 1:30:43.879 For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:47.599 visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:48.759 to your favorite shows.