1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: special guests I do. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: We just have to end up bleeping them out for sol. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: Do you believe about your social talk? 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: No? 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: Sorry, well I heard it. It messes with the algorithms. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's probably true. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: Maybe that's why we haven't. 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: show called Sex Cells, and she. 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Is an entrepreneur. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: She owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: I missing a market? 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would. 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: Be okay hopefully, Alana and I real know, okay, okay, 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: probably over a year ago, and literally like, I just 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes. 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: your broke dish today? 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese because I 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: don't like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap, and 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: the meal is cheap, But like when broke, I was like, 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: I need to feel full fast, and I always thought 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: So I just tried to dress it up what I had. 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I saw these extra ingredients, and I didn't know which 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: direction your meal was going. So for our listeners, can 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: you say what is in. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: The gourmet mecha cheese? 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: very expensive when your rope like this is what eight 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: dollars for this? Maybe ten? 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: Probably? 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would use criscal but virgin olive oil. Lorry, 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how to say his name, but Tony Shiericus, 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole. So we 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: have the mixing bowls. I don't know why. 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: cheese water. 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: have a what's it called. I would take the top, 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 3: pour it out. 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way, 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: this is just a fruit strainer. 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: But go on, what's the ingredients? 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 3: my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's, 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: We've got the cutting board of the knife so that 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: you can slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter, and milk. 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: Awesome. 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before. 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and cheese. Okay, but I am excited because there's so much. 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: Don't go together. So I think it's the loster mac 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: and cheese and that's it. 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know there. 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 5: You know. 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: But but no, I'm excited because this is my first 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: time ever in the history of living on this earth 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: having gourmet mac and cheese. 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: And it's really cool. 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: You know what I actually put in myra? 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: Look you getting all hyped into it? What what? 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I make Gromet 72 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: mac and cheese for overall, I put like five different 73 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: type of cheeses in it, and I put a little 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't remember where 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: I learned about the beer from. But it's something about 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: the yeast and the beer. Oh my god, you can 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money, so 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: I felt like I shouldn't added that. 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: No, no, but that's your But you now that you 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: make money, you actually. 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Do to a still a twist on gormet maca cheer. 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like, 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers, 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: which is classic big mac burn at the top, and 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: then mine is the bougie back. 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black? 87 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 3: My mom is black and my dad's is really okay, 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: maybe it should be Hebrew national. 89 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: You're hilarious. 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican. So 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: I have the same black and white mix because I 92 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: never ever meet it where the mom is black and 93 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: the dad is white. Whenever I see someone like that, 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, that's crazy, all right. 95 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: You always see the other people was like, you're like 96 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: black and Jewish, You're like Drake. 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: back in the day. People don't know nothing, You not 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: these young kids. But all right, weezy. So I am 100 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: dying to try this gourmet mac. 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: So come away. It's not gonna be good. Why you 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: say that, because think about the stuff we eat today. 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you eat shitty meals all the time. 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the point 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been because 106 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole. 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna get me caught up. But this it was. 108 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Literally it's tuna castrole and the pickled egg is the 109 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: worst dish for me on the on the shell. 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: If people said the worst pickled eg? Have you had 111 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: a pickled egg? 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: I thought castroles are for Caucasians. And this is the 113 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: Black Blact Network. It was. 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: It was two black sisters that owned a all black 115 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: owned store that carries all black owned and they made 116 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible. 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: because I like it to. 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Caramel lote, okay, okay, But. 120 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: Also I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese. 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: to get the flavor with the onions, and shit tastes 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: like extra. 124 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: I just learned the other day that some people seasoned 126 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: the onions. Are you one of those people? 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: No? 128 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Am I Karen? Now it was it was a black girl. Damn, 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect her 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 3: to be black. 131 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: You you said you're a carot. You want to know. 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: Something that's just too black? My mom, every time she 133 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: watches my dog, won't feed the dog dog food. It's 134 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom, why 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: is that chicken color different? Oh well, it has a 136 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: little garlic powder and just a little season on it. 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: She seas in the dog's foods there's too bland, no way. 138 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: And every time I got the dog be peen out 139 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: week for me. By the way, my parents, I moved 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: them to LA so they're flying tonight. 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: You moved them. 143 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA. 144 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's 145 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: got to be one back and forth, okay. So I 146 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: just wanted them closer to me, so that that to 147 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 3: me was like a big life goal that's summer Orlando. 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: First of all, that's a yeah, cause it would have 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: been cheaper to move from LA to Orlando. 150 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: You moved them to a more expensive market. 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: I want them to be closer to me. This is 152 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: where all my work is happening. And like, yeah, I mean, 153 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Orlando's where I'm from. So it was Honda Go on 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: my birthday this year. I went to suspend it with 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: my father. My dad, he's in a wheelchair, so it's 156 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: a lot more difficult for him to visit me like 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: my mom does. People probably see my mom all over 158 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish 159 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: I could watch TV with you all the time. I 160 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: wish we could have these moments together, Like I wish 161 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: I could be in LA with you and your mom. 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there, 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: and so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to 164 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: make this meal today. I actually walked by a T 165 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Mobile store, which was my last job, to walk by 166 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: a T Mobile store making the meal. I made it 167 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: when I was broken. I'm literally able to afford to 168 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: move my parents here, but who knows, maybe they gonna 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: spend so much money I'm gonna have to eat this 170 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: shit again. 171 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: No, no, but you're making like really big moves. 172 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: I was. 173 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because 174 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're 175 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: making like chess moves like effortlessly. So when I say like, 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm pulling out the pen like, I've been working for 177 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: myself for a long time, but I definitely don't make 178 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the type of money that I need to make. I'm 179 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: still in the Jamaican like two thousand here, five thousand here, 180 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: three thousand here equals twelve thousand. You know what I'm saying. 181 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: But I'm not at the point where I'm playing chess. 182 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: So I'm literally excited about this episode because we're all 183 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: about to get took to. 184 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: School, you, I hope. So yeah, So I hope. 185 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: I do the due deal with just tell us what 186 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: was going on when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese, 187 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: the original, So I'll. 188 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: Tell you this, coming from Brokeness was. 189 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Something that I thought you were gonna put the sorry. 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to do the smaller pan 191 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: for the hot dogs, and I had your pan for. 192 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: That want of them first. 193 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if they you're gonna boil him in 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: the mac and cheese. 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: This is the maca cheese potting. 196 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: No, it was the other because that pot small. I 197 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: love you. 198 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm making my own okay, I'm staying out of the kitchen. 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: Said you're gonna take. 200 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Just so you know, every time I get involved in 201 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to 202 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: stay in my life, okay, okay, mae, yeah, because I've 203 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: been burning stuff on people's own meals, all right, So 204 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: so tell me what was going on. 205 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: Sorry. 206 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: So I actually grew up with money and there was 207 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents 208 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: some money, and then my dad ended up having a 209 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: stroke that kept him out of work. And so after that, 210 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: I ended up dating a guy. It was just like 211 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: rich boyfriend that was paying for my school and then 212 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: he was very abusive. Broke up with him and then 213 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: that stopped. My parents couldn't really afford to college. I 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: had to help them out because my dad had this stroke. 215 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: So started working at the mall, White House black market 216 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: clothing stores like a hand tailor. 217 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: Bike yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class. 218 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: That's my first I did, did you steal anything from them? 219 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: Like a few things? Okay, good, good, But then I 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: realized once I had to stop, I wasn't like stealing 221 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: for real, for real, Okay, it was just a little shit. 222 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: And then one day I wore something to work and 223 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: she was like, I didn't know you got that dress, 224 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: and I was like, ah. The craziest thing was I 225 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: went to jail and ended up having it was for 226 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: my license. Everybody thinks it was something worse. It was 227 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: for my license, and I had a GPS monitor on 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: my foot, and so I had to always wear Maxi 229 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: dresses to work, or like super big boots. 230 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: To cover you got one of those ankle monitors. 231 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: Yes, no way, all working at my house like market. 232 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: It was terrible. So then I think I was helping 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: a woman that worked at a T mobile store and 234 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: I was selling her mad shit. She's like, you're really 235 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: good at sales. How much she's making here. I don't 236 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: remember what it was, fucking ten dollars an hour, but 237 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: my commission would be good, so it'd be up to 238 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: twenty or thirty. And she was like, I can make 239 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: you double a tea mobile with the way you saw. 240 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: Oh now, I knew nothing about cel phone. She's like, 241 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: you don't have to just have to be cute. It's 242 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: funny because I went on a date the other day, 243 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: this nigga said, you look like a bitch. She used 244 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: to work its emobile. I used to tie my little 245 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: shirt up like this and be like, what kind of 246 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: on y'all want? I was gonna sell it to all 247 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: the top niggas, the prepaid lines in the box because 248 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: you weren't supposed to legally sell them a new number 249 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: every month. Oh, so niggas would come in. I just 250 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: fucking keeps wiping the shit whatever. So ended up being 251 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: so good at T mobile selling shit. I think my 252 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: first year working there, I was like twenty two twenty three. 253 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: I made like ninety thousand dollars. Get the heck out crazy. 254 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: They don't pay it over that way no more. Yeah, 255 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: but like I was selling selling something. The iPhone was 256 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: hot back then, and it just came out and literally 257 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: was fucking flying to Europe, just like experiencing life. Living 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: life still had a shitty car with windows, didn't go down, 259 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: But I just spent all my money and experiences, and 260 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: what I realized from those experiences, like, oh, I got 261 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: to get more and more and more. Every time you 262 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: taste a little bit of luxury, now you need more 263 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: and more and more, you know. So from there, ended 264 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: up training T Mobile staff in Florida. Then I ended 265 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: up managing a store, and then they moved me to 266 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: New York to work in corporate. And now not saying 267 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't have made it to New York alone, but 268 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: I did have a sugar daddy then. 269 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, And so he was like a legit sugar daddy, 270 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: like what you envisioned in the movies, Like he wasn't 271 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: that hot, and he had paper. 272 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: Oh he paper, Oh yeah, like some bitches have a 273 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: sugar daddy. I I he had a. 274 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Plane, he had he had a plane. 275 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh he was like legit okay, Oh my god. 276 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: He was so rich. And I met him working in 277 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: mother fucking T Mobile. He came in, he had like 278 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: three hundred lines for his company and he was like, 279 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm with Rise and Da Da Da, but his daughter 280 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: wanted something that was only a T mobile. I was like, 281 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: why don't you move your lines over? And he's like, honey, 282 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: I don't do T Mobile Like this is that's very 283 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 3: so I think I saved him like twenty five grand 284 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: a month, and he said he was gonna give me 285 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: a gift and I told him. He's like, what are 286 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: you doing this week? I was like, I'm gonna go 287 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: see Beyonce Miami. He was the Formation tour. 288 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: Okay. 289 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: He's like, how are you gonna get there? I'm like 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: gonna drive my friends. She's like, take my jet, and 291 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: I remember my friend's like, oh I got you gotta 292 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: suck that owd man. We got on that jet and 293 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: it was like, bitch'll suck a thick cot And so 294 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: that was like my first entry into whole ho ho 295 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: sheit okay, okay, got me this insane apartment in New York. 296 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: It was like, wait, he was doing that too. 297 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Oh you're saying. When he knew I was gonna leave Orlando, 298 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: He's like, sweetie, I can't have you leave me. I 299 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: was thinking about getting a place in New York. Anyway. 300 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: He's like, where were you gonna move? I was like Manhattan. 301 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: He goes that means Harlem, which was true. So I 302 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: was Midtown fifty fourth and eighth. And it's so funny 303 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: because my mom came to visit me and the address 304 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: was two sixty West fifty fourth or two sixty spy. 305 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: My mom got to my apartment, she goes, oh my god, 306 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: it's Tudio fifty four is right there. She's like, that's 307 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: where I was going, That's where I was meeting these 308 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: rich guys. You're turning into me. She was so proud 309 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: of me, And I think, what's funny is my mom 310 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: always wanted me to. 311 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: Be such a good personality. Couldn't wear your personality? 312 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a 313 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: always wanted me to be taken care of. And like, 314 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: it's so crazy because now I'm the rich guy, you know, 315 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: And I don't think she expected it, but it's just amazing. 316 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: Like I never thought i'd get here. I always kind 317 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: of thought and she would say to me, you're gonna 318 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: get married, You're gonna have a big house, and you're 319 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: gonna move me and your dad in the guest house. 320 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna be so great. And like literally I'm moving 321 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: them into a place down the street from me. 322 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, without an e. 323 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: But how does it not that I also say that 324 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: now you're the rich guy, Like when you do you 325 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: this obviously is in the first time you said it 326 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: is it when did you have the epiphany that you. 327 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Were the rich guy? I damn, that's a good feeling. 328 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait to have that feeling. 329 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: It was, It wasn't the first time I felt that was. 330 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: I was in Paris with my mom and I took 331 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: her for a birthday and I wanted to fly her 332 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: first class, but I use like an upgrade to getting 333 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: points then, you know, because like first class, I'd be 334 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: like ten fifteen thousand for them. Lay down. And when 335 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: we got there, we get to the hotel and it 336 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: was really nice, and she's like, oh, what's our room? Like, oh, 337 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: are we have two separate rooms? And every little thing 338 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: my mom was starting to count in her head, like 339 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: how much was my daughter making? 340 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, we. 341 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: Got our own rooms. Okay. Then we go to the store. 342 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, you want something, I'll just get a lipstick. 343 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, Mom, you can get more. You can 344 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: get a bag. 345 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: Your mom was like, what the break is happening? 346 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of 347 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: the protest store and there's a hotel very famous called 348 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: the Plaza A. My mom was telling me how princes 349 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: would take her to dinner there. When she was young 350 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: and she would meet all these guys when she was 351 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: traveling in Europe and this was like the place to go. 352 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, do you want to have dinner there? 353 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: And that was when like it hit my mom. She 354 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: got really emotional and she's like, I cannot fucking believe 355 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm doing this with you. My mom is seventy seventieth 356 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: birthday at the time. 357 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh, you said stay out the lane, so I'm staying. 358 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm watching it. 359 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: I get cooked for. 360 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Her now, Yo. You ain't been in the kitchen in 361 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: a while. 362 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: I cooked this morning. 363 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Yo, I'm sorry you told me that. You told me 364 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: to stay out the kitchen, and. 365 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: We almost about to burn down the whole even know 366 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: if you don't on there to be on the wood part. 367 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: No, I can't. I was looking for another conterract. Okay, 368 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: I'll move it to this one the ale I tried to. 369 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: I love it, No, but it was. 370 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: It was beautiful because my mom really was just so 371 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: excited for me, so proud of me. I do remember, 372 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: you know, we still niggas at the end of the day, 373 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: Like we sitting here with these fucking Louis bags and 374 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: all these expensive shopping bags and literally, my mom orders 375 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: a drink. She looks at me and she said, oh shit, 376 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: that was forty three dollars. She was let me sip slow. 377 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: But it's really great because for me, like I don't 378 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: have kids yet, so like spoiling my parents just it's 379 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: like dream come true. Shit for me. 380 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: I can only imagine. 381 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: I really really have wanted this for myself my life, 382 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: and like I love doing it for my mom. My 383 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: mom thinks I'm Beyonce. Like if we walk into a 384 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: place and can't get in, like you don't know how 385 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: my daughter is called Charlemagne. It's just my mom is 386 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: like my daughter's on TV and they're like, really, what anfuse? 387 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I feel really proud to do that. 388 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big 389 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: freaking deal. 390 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: She's gonna get her nerves well. 391 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: And luckily you moved it right down the street. 392 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: I did. 393 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 5: So. 394 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: My mom wanted to get rid of her car. She 395 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: was like, I think I'm getting old. She had a 396 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: little moment. We were looking for her apartment and she 397 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: saw me parallel park. She started crying. I'm like, what's 398 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: wrong with you? She's like, I'm older than I thought. 399 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can do this shit. I 400 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: got to get rid of my car, like I'm an 401 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: old lady. What if I hit somebody? Thought? And so 402 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: we sold her car. And I'm a little nervous because 403 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: you know, parents don't want to give up too much 404 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: of their autonomy. They need to be able to do 405 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: shit for themselves. So you know, I hope she can't 406 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 3: moved her in a walkable neighborhood. She'll figure it out. 407 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's 408 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: when does your dad comes? 409 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: So my dad comes in tonight. He's just like as 410 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: a hospital visit, and it's a little more extensive when 411 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: someone's like fully in a wheelchair. So I wanted my 412 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: mom to have a few days to herself. I'll take 413 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: care of my dad and then you know, okay, she's 414 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: moved and a lot of shit they've lived. 415 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: There forever, Okay, Okay, So yeah, it's a big deal. 416 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay, 417 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: because I want to know how this elevation because it 418 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: seems like somewhere around your elevation that was like a 419 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: speed track. 420 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: So the broke miss the brokest I think i'd been 421 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: was when I left the abusive X, right, he only 422 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: let me keep barely the clothes that I had that 423 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: I had when I like got with him. 424 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: Are we talking like emotional or physical abuse? 425 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't 426 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: know how dark you can get on the show. But like, 427 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was bad because I just 428 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: kind of thought when a man is paying for things 429 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: for you, like you deal with a little bit of something, right, Yeah, 430 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: And so to me, if you never close your fist, 431 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: I thought that was fine. I never realized how the 432 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: steps of you know, physical violence can be. 433 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: So when I left him, he didn't give me anything. 435 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: It was really tough. I mean, mind you, I went 436 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: from when I was a kid having a driver drive 437 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: me to school that's how my parents were, to like 438 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: literally figuring out what I was gonna do with the 439 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: last pot holes, right, So it was really tough. And 440 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't ask my parents for anything, didn't want to 441 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: tell them how bad it was. 442 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so when I moved, he didn't want 443 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: to tell them because they were already struggling. 444 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel. 445 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you 446 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 3: having this rich boyfriend? Yeah, oh yeah, you know. So 447 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: ended up finding a place I think it was seven 448 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls, a 449 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart, thank god, 450 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: because that's where I was buying all the fucking hot dogs, 451 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my number one broke 452 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: thing I would do. So I used to hang with 453 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 3: all the trap news because hello, that was my jam okay, 454 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: and I'm from Florida, right, so like southern culture, big 455 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: car shows, HBC's like it was just fun and basically 456 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: what I would do if they were going to like 457 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: buy a bottle or a table in the club, I 458 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: would see if I had like maybe thirty dollars to 459 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: my account so that it would overdraft, I'd have them 460 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: give me the cash. And that was like my payday 461 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: loan to myself. 462 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, hold that You are like really in deep 463 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: when you think of that strategy. 464 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 465 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: My roommate and I at the time. I remember we 466 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: both got paid on different weeks. So there was a 467 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: Thursday and we both got paid that or I got 468 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: paid that Friday. I was like, damn, we don't have 469 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: detergent left, but we want to go to the club. 470 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay, we 471 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: get vodka or detergent, and we got vodka. Okay, we 472 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: use some body washing like clean shit. In the same 473 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 3: we were like, we got to go out and meet 474 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that, like 475 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: that was what I thought being able to have success. 476 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: Look like I got to meet a rich guy, I 477 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: got a date a basketball player, this fi or that guy. Yeah, 478 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: which a lot of women still think they need to 479 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: do today. 480 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I 481 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I 482 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless? Let 483 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: me help you. I can graduate you to the next week. 484 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, trust me, you don't want to get in 485 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: that game. You know what the problem is because they'll 486 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: turn around to look at you and be like, I 487 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: know I'm homeless, but. 488 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, my life, I think I'm better than you. 489 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: The problem is, like I think now, a lot of 490 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: the dudes are in my industry right, so like the 491 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: people that I'm working amongst, I can't be out here 492 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: like trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like 493 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: I used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still 494 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: want Toby, but like for real, like you know, it's 495 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: like they'll know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something, 496 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: so I don't want to be a bird. Then I 497 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: just end up, you know, a bird with these niggas. 498 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning 499 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: and I am done. So you know, if you ever 500 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: find a rich one, you can always slide on. Heyko, 501 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated 502 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: a rich dude. 503 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just 504 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: like I just really want to be able to like 505 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: out my you know, home parents, And it was true. 506 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: I was like, so, I'm just like working really hard 507 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: and I can't ut work college. But just like I'm 508 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: really smart. I read a lot. I was always like 509 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: doing a fucking sob story, which I'll tell you what, 510 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: my sugar daddy. A lot of the things that I 511 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: think helped me now are the stock tips and investment 512 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: tips I got for my sugar daddy. 513 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: But didn't didn't you say, were your parents in stock markets? 514 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Too though it crash okay, So you didn't want to 515 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: take tips from them, were you? 516 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Like No? 517 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I 518 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning, 519 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to 520 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 3: watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four 521 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: x right, things like that, and it never made me 522 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: want his money. I always wanted to be him. I 523 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this, 524 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: this and that to me that was so attractive about him. 525 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: People used to always ask me how I could fuck 526 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: him and shit like that, and I was like, bro, 527 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: you don't know how rich the person is. You don't 528 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: know how how much that drives me. The ambition that 529 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: made him sexier and sexier. So one day I eventually 530 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: just asked him like, hey, I really want to learn 531 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: the stock market, but like, you know, what, can I 532 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: put like five hundred dollars in? And he's like, that's 533 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars if 534 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: you can make it grow. I forgot the timeframe. He said, 535 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: I'll reward you with another ten and he did wow, 536 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: And I kept growing it and growing it. I think 537 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: at the time I even put the money in T 538 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Mobile think it opened, became a publicly traded company when 539 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: I worked there, became publicly traded and then it was 540 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: six dollars and then they went up to like thirty 541 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: and I probably get. 542 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 5: A lot of money. 543 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: So when you were doing the podcast, and this is 544 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: before I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct, 545 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before 546 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: the New wave or were you guys early in. 547 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: We were very early, and like people were very really 548 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: doing video, I think for popular podcasts, just for scale. 549 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and 550 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: you're not getting burns. 551 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have 552 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate. 553 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. 554 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: Okay, gourmet continue. 555 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to derail you. 556 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: This is fucking me up. This is hard. I can't 557 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: even listen to music when I cook one. 558 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: You would be surprised how many people will at the 559 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: after each interview, they'll be like yo, cooking and talking 560 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: at the same time. 561 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: Really really difficult because. 562 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's 563 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: what's making it. 564 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: And you have to like tell your story the entire time. 565 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies. 566 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe, 567 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: sugar daddy, so that would make you the sugar baby, right, 568 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: sugar baby. Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby. 569 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a shirt Baisy Bros. 570 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: Every time I was out with him, I would take 571 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: him to like fucking any and this when I just 572 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: moved to New York. Catch just just came out at 573 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: the time, and SGK was super popular. I remember all 574 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: them niggas if you be looking at me with him, 575 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: and I'd be like, come on, babe. Also just turned 576 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: on knowing that he had to fuck me for money, 577 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: uh huh, which is terrible, but I was okay, it 578 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: was sexy to me, like especially when I remember he 579 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: would be like, you want to get some clothes and 580 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: I would always want to get a little Nike askict 581 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: to ship you know many all the niggas of you 582 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: in Yeah, he's my daddy, but so anyway, start horrible decisions. 583 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: But I like how you were actually inspired by his 584 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: moves versus well, I don't want to say I like, 585 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being 586 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: successful to be even more successful, and you you took 587 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn 588 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: what you're doing and do it on my own, which 589 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: was great. 590 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: It's like I always wanted this sex in the city 591 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of 592 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 3: them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so 593 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing 594 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and 595 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied 596 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I 597 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: had also experienced my first relationship a man with money 598 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: and abuse, so I was like, I have to have 599 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: it on my own. I can't be down again. And 600 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 3: you know, I hate to say it like this, but 601 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what 602 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: happened to my parents with losing their I mean their 603 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: house got four clothes on right, the home that I 604 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: SETI grew up in. It's like it was tough to 605 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 3: watch them go through that. And I think about two 606 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: incomes or just diversifying shit what that would have meant. 607 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough 608 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: for my mom to hear that. 609 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations? 610 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy. Like my mom 611 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like, oh 612 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: my god, I never taught you to go out there 613 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: and do it alone. 614 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: But look at you. 615 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: In a way, you're you know, well I made money 616 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: off of person. 617 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. 618 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: That's really it. I mean the personality. I mean, in 619 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, the personality is just like the cherry on 620 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: the cake. 621 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And 622 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: my father that's what he did growing up. He owned 623 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: like camera stores and like you know the little row 624 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: like stores back in the day they'd have where they 625 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: were selling electronic these shops. That was my dad's like 626 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up, 627 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes 628 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: T mobile by then then, like literally everything about it 629 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: felt like selling to me. You know, Like it's interesting 630 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: the way Mandy and I have kind of done our business. 631 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: I always felt like she has really helped us so 632 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: much when it comes in terms of our finances. 633 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: Right. 634 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: She had a financial background, and even though I came 635 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm 636 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 3: the first person when we're on a call that's like 637 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: I want to do it for this much, this or that. 638 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 3: And like I loved that. We've been able to play 639 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: up both of our corporate roles in that. Yeah, and 640 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: I've got a lot of seller blood in me. My 641 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios. Anytime we have 642 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: a big deal or he sees someone's budget, he's like, oh, 643 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: you have to sell them on the phone. You have 644 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: to tell them why. And I really enjoy it. It makes 645 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: me feel like I still got it a little bit. 646 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I I always say this that I think I used 647 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: to always say. When I have a child, I want 648 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: to teach her how to read, I want to teach 649 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: her financial literacy, I want to teach her about God. 650 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: But the number one skill that she has to have 651 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: before she graduates high school is the ability to sell. 652 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: Because I think it is the most underrated skill. 653 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: And if you're going to go work for yourself, the 654 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: number one thing you're gonna have to do is sell 655 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: a product, sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep. 656 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: And I remember when I had my first company. I 657 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: remember going to home deep or office depot and buying 658 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: those little sale books and you know how well out 659 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: the hair pulled back and all. 660 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: This and whatever. 661 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: But I knew right away that sales is the one skill. 662 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: And I would listen to all these audio tapes too 663 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting 664 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: into it. 665 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and 666 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: I had a conversation about this, Like, so I never 667 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because 668 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't 669 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't 670 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: normally do it like this. But Mandy at the time 671 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm, 672 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: and she was working more hours and not making as 673 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: much as me in accounting at that time. I understand 674 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: it was junior level. Yeah, but I think about that 675 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: a lot, and I think about the money you can 676 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: make from selling all the time, and I think about 677 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: that instance of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me. 678 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: But why isn't she making it up? And it's because 679 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: that particular skill really can't be taught real you can't. 680 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice 681 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: it and practice it. 682 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than what was 683 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: I going to say, you know, the job that she had, 684 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: and that's why she's making way more and doing way 685 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: more things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing. 686 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 687 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible 688 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to 689 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions, 690 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: I quit. But it was mainly because I was like, 691 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: you know what, if I ever wanted to come back 692 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: to this shit, I will, like I've been making jokes recently, 693 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm 694 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: probably gonna be a real estate agent. 695 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: So why did you quit? Two years? 696 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 3: In the trajectory of horrible was faster than the trajectory 697 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: of corporate America. For example, how long do we work 698 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: a corporate job? Right, so you want to get promoted? 699 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: I worked for Teambile six years. I got to be 700 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: a manager after year three and a half four, if 701 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: there's a spot for you. So to me, I kind 702 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: of just felt like this is moving faster than my 703 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: rate in the corporate world. 704 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you said you quit horrible. 705 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, quit my corporate. 706 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Oh because you were like two years 707 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: in I quit horrible. 708 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: No, you quit your corporate okay, okay. 709 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I 710 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me. 711 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: But I have to ask before, how much were you making? 712 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: It horrible to say, okay, not as you make it. Oh, 713 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: you weren't making as much as T Mobile. 714 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask 715 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 3: me when is the right time to quit a job, 716 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile, 717 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay, which. 718 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: Is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on. 719 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: It was like I was selling to companies that needed 720 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: like Ethernet I gradual disaster recovery, like I graduated from phones. 721 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: But basically this is what happens. So horrible decisions at 722 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: that time that I quit may have been making me 723 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly 724 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: not even Patreon ad money, and. 725 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: That's two years in. Yeah, geez, all right, go on. 726 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: And I think the tour money because Mandy and I 727 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 3: were buying out theaters. We brought out Carolines on Broadway. 728 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: And you guys were physically doing it yourself. 729 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit. 730 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: But what I realized was like, oh, took me six 731 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: years to make ninety to one to seventy year, took 732 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: me two years from zero to one hundred. So next 733 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I 734 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I 735 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: have more time on my hands. I could probably do 736 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit. 737 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If 738 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit 739 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: like a blazer and a skirt, but Mandy and I 740 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: had to like make an excuse to leave our jobs 741 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: that day to go shoot with charl Mane and Andrew. 742 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: So I think that it really will show you, like 743 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: when you have to start saying no to things. Oh 744 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: oh yeah, when you have to start saying no to 745 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: things because of your day job. Yes, maybe that's when 746 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: it's time, like when you're really getting booked like that, 747 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: like TV appearances even like I remember we did Vice 748 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: Live and I couldn't be there early for the rehearsal 749 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: because of my job, And I was like, damn man, 750 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: and anyone who's watching this who might be semi getting entertainment, 751 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: whether you've got a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you 752 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: want to do a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get 753 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: or even eating while robe. Who the fuck is gonna 754 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: do this shit at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right, 755 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: who's gonna do what? Like to have a guest? Yeah, entrepreneurs, 756 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: Like all this shit gets filmed during the day. Yeah, 757 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: So it's really tough to have a nine to five 758 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: and pursue those entertainment dreams. And like that was why 759 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: I was like, I got to figure the shit out. 760 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: I think my biggest success in this industry came during 761 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: the pandemic while pivoting. So made the TV show Sex Sells. 762 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: It's about the business of sex, having money, making money 763 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: from sex without having it. And I came up with 764 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: that because that's how I make money, right, I just 765 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: basically talk about sex covered all these adult industries and 766 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm not a TV star, and it ended up popping 767 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: on cues and that's why I'm one. 768 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: How did you did you package that yourself and then 769 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: start selling it? Or did you package it and then 770 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: started calling Charlemagne or different people you have relationship with 771 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: and like, I have something that I need. 772 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need 773 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: a co sign for that. Okay, I believe Horrible Decisions 774 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a 775 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: lot of people watch in the beginning. I do believe 776 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because 777 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was 778 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: like I just had so much time during the pandemic 779 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking 780 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: in money m hm, and so I was like, oh 781 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: my god, I should make the show. I want to 782 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their 783 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: sex lives on it, and a lot of people have 784 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: said like, oh, it's like horrible Decisions on TV, but 785 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: it's even. 786 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like it. It sounds completely different because 787 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about this set, right. 788 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm an interview a lot of the guests we had 789 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: so that I can, you know, show them some love 790 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: and they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's 791 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: totally different and I love doing it. It makes me. 792 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: It really brought me into the world of seeing how 793 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 3: production works, the larger skill budgets and money. 794 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: So, but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying, 795 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: Like you went out there or did you have a 796 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: manager that helped you? 797 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: So it started slow. I didn't have a manager, never 798 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: had an agent ever. 799 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: Basically, oh still to this date. 800 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: No, not personally, Damn, you're a gangster. I have a 801 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: person that gives I give them a cut of my 802 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: money if they do pr stuff for me, but if 803 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically, there 804 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: was a guy that reached out to me months back 805 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want to 806 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: do this type of show? I was like, no pandemic 807 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: hits and I was like, you know what, I wonder 808 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making TV? 809 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: Is TV being made? And we started talking about what 810 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 3: it would look like if we worked together and came 811 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS at 812 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: the time. Help me package it, oh, help me make 813 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: a bible. And we did it that way. But what 814 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: I will tell anyone that has a good TV idea 815 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: is people that work in development needs shows all the time. 816 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 3: I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, okay, 817 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that. 818 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna 819 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and 820 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having 821 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good, 822 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 3: not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not 823 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you 824 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to 825 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 3: show them? So real? You know what I mean. 826 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take it. 827 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: Notes, goge you did, But like here it is, here's 828 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: my spread, and this is what I do with this 829 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 3: type of budget. Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand 830 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: an episode, I could be doing it on the load. 831 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: I could be coming to their homes. I could be 832 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: X y Z. Like, there's so many different ways for 833 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: the things that we're making right now to make them 834 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: next level. Yeah, and so I think that we just 835 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: kind of have to use our network. Like my biggest 836 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: thing with playing chess is making sure that I'm rubbing 837 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: elbows with those that can one day need to use 838 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: me for something I need. 839 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 2: To use you. That's awesome, Yeah. 840 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 3: Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this 841 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: about someone they were like. He was like, that person 842 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: is such an opportunist, And I was like, I wonder 843 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask 844 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: I let every single person know what the fuck I do. 845 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: I just had a dinner where I sat down next 846 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 3: to one of the most famous comedians in the world. 847 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't even know if this person can travel on 848 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right. Wow. 849 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: When they asked me what I do, didn't even say 850 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: a podcast thing. I was like, I own a production 851 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: studio in New York and La Black owned. We shoot 852 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: podcasts mainly, but we also have a mobile team Boom. 853 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: Now it's in your brain. Now you know what you 854 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: can use me for, Like that's the job I felt 855 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: like I needed to sell to that person at the time. 856 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: When I talk to TV show, TV networks or people 857 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 3: that work in Netflix or different things like that I host, 858 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 3: I do this, I do that right, Like I want 859 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've 860 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: rebed elros with. 861 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I 862 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: always say, like, sales is more about paying attention to 863 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 1: what the customer wants, listening to them, and. 864 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: Then catering to their needs. 865 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: That's just trying to sell someone something that they don't 866 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: want to buy. So even the way you're talking is 867 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah, because 868 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're supposed 869 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: to you know, if someone walks up to me right now, 870 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about, you know, what it is they're 871 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna need or want from me. 872 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I 873 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: didn't even think about me selling myself in that way, 874 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: but like, damn it is. 875 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: It is. 876 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: But now opportunists is different, because opportunists are I always 877 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: say I want to be a business person, not a hustler, 878 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: because I feel like a hustler is like, I'm gonna 879 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: take advantage, someone's gonna get a short end of a stick. 880 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: But a business person is like, we're all gonna win. 881 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 1: You're gonna walk away with your piece of the pie. 882 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: She's gonna walk away with her piece of pie, and 883 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away with my piece, and no one 884 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: feels to agreed. 885 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: You can never make someone feel like they're doing you 886 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 3: a favor. 887 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like at all. 888 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Charlotte Mine was lucky and lucky enough to 889 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I 890 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I 891 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 3: literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mane 892 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 3: is Charlot Mane, But horrible decisions was still good enough 893 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: to where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need 894 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: those numbers, but we sell to add people like I 895 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: don't want to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel like, 896 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: and I'm not talking about that instance, but just anyone like, 897 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: thank you so much for giving this to you. Yeah yeah, 898 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: when you know your value, Yeah yeah, we have to 899 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way. 900 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: But I mean shit. You know, I love fuse to death, 901 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: but I also know my show brings number then and 902 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: I know that's why they treat me well. They love 903 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 3: me too, like we're definitely doing what we need to 904 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be 905 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: on a network that you know I can be their 906 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an 907 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of 908 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 3: go under the radar. 909 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe, I honestly don't think so. 910 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, I don't think so. I'm not even trying 911 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: to be not Well, what was your hardest hurdle? 912 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: I think it just to come to day because I 913 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: feel like you have a lot of great pivots. But like, 914 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: where was there a point where you were like I 915 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: don't know, hmm, that you seriously like had that conversation off. 916 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, And it could have been my studio. 917 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: Okay, my studio, which is the best thing I've ever done. Actually, 918 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: my studio gave me the seal of approval to be 919 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 3: bigger than just a podcaster, Like that was really when 920 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 3: I became a businesswoman. No matter how hard Mandy and 921 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: I have worked, I never felt like that and it's 922 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 3: no shade to her. I don't know if it's because 923 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: with women. I don't know if it's because we talk 924 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 3: about sex, but like I had to do something else 925 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 3: for myself to feel like I could be respected. And 926 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 3: it really shows something about brick and mortar spaces to 927 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: make people feel very like, oh, they're really doing something, 928 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: which is weird. But it's also because I started getting 929 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 3: other people money, Like. 930 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: Thought, what was the hesitancy, Like where was that hesitancy at? 931 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 3: Like where was that pain that investment? Right, my partner 932 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: Alex shout out to him. We spent an insane amount 933 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: of money on fucking equipment, which is why we have 934 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: one of the best studios right, Like literally, I was like, 935 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 3: how can we be charging people this little but like 936 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: our equipment is so fucking expensive, like it doesn't add 937 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, that's 938 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: why everybody's gonna come with us, to know that the 939 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: podcasters like us can be there and then the Charlottamanees 940 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: of the world or whoever they may be. David Letterman wasn't. 941 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: Our shit, Oh shit, right, Okay. 942 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: He's like to know these people and okay, you can 943 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: sit amongst them like we're gonna be for all of them, 944 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: and that's really been our brand. I believe that's why 945 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 3: we're growing. I mean, we get resumes like fucking crazy 946 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 3: every day. 947 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: So how long did it take when you so you 948 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking 949 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: like we are in a rich restaurant. 950 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 2: Because the point look at all the food. 951 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: She made, and it's like, I feel like I'm about 952 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: to eat an appetizer. 953 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: Gormet. 954 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: You try to make it look clean and minimally. 955 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in 956 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: with a fork and just eat everything direct. 957 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: I know it. 958 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave me like an appetizer. 959 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 3: It's fucking hot dogs. 960 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: Girl. 961 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: I want to see you sit down next to this 962 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: mic and spend quality time with me. 963 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but. 964 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 5: Not bad. 965 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 3: You look, there's the onions. 966 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together. 967 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: Funny enough, my co host talks about Haitian spaghetti and 968 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 3: it's hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot 969 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 3: dogs a pasta. But this is kind of good. 970 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: This ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on 971 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: one for it. 972 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: I'll put it together on I don't want to touch 973 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 3: on the plate. 974 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 2: For all y'all listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack. 975 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel 976 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had 977 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: a hot dog in a while. But the freaking grilled 978 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: onions and mac and cheese cheese is genius. Bro I 979 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: don't know why I've never thought of seasoning up my 980 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. 981 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 2: But the grilled onions, it's crunchy, it's amazing. 982 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 3: I am so happy. 983 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 2: I am very impressible. The only thing is. 984 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: I would maybe add and I don't even know, but 985 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: do you agree? Would you add more salt to the 986 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: mac and cheese? 987 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 3: Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't 988 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: want to do that to people. 989 00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's what. 990 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: The lorries for you. You know, sodium is a bitch nowadays. 991 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 3: M Plus, there's a lot of salt in that Tony 992 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: Sharia whatever name is. 993 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 994 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: So for a girl that came from money, went broke, 995 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: had sugar daddies, and it's self made to the point 996 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: of flying your family in from Orlando to La still 997 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: in the early early I don't even want to say 998 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: how early thirties she is because all of us are listening. 999 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 2: Can you believe that much you've accomplished. It's amazing. 1000 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: You know. Sometimes I get scared like I'll lose it, 1001 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: But then I realize the hunger that I have to 1002 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 3: help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense 1003 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: that I don't think it could happen. 1004 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: Now do you deal with well? 1005 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: You said you have multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It 1006 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: sounds to me like you're spread pretty thin. I'm so 1007 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: happy you shared that because I always think that maybe 1008 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing something wrong if I have so many hustles 1009 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: going at the same time. 1010 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 3: You know, there is something to be said about a 1011 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 3: master of none, But I will say this much what's 1012 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 3: worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea. I really 1013 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 3: ride my own wave. I made a studio not because 1014 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 3: there's other podcast studios, because there were no black owned 1015 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 3: ones that were gonna have podcasters run it. I'd never 1016 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 3: been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster. I 1017 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do a 1018 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic, 1019 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 3: and there were no black shows about sex that were 1020 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like 1021 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 3: porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far 1022 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say. But like, 1023 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I 1024 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: think it's worked. So when you do too many different 1025 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 3: trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different. 1026 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: We've all seen a cooking show, but your concept is different, right, Yeah. Yeah, 1027 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 3: so it's like you have to have something different added 1028 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: to it, and I think that if you don't, you 1029 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: then become a master of none because you're just trying 1030 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 3: to do things that other people do. 1031 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. 1032 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: I have a fear of I don't even know where 1033 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: this fear came from, but when it comes to partnering 1034 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: with other people, I feel like my greatest asset is 1035 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: my relationships. And it's probably because I have so much integrity. 1036 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I won't hurt a full I really 1037 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: won't even hurt a fly because I want to treat 1038 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: people the way I would want to be treated. 1039 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 2: So my loyalty is there. 1040 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: But when I see like you and Mandy working together 1041 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: and you and Alex working together. I'm like, either the 1042 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: integrity on you has got to be super lit or 1043 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: how are you managing that partnership? Because I always get nervous, 1044 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: like what if the other partner doesn't hold up or 1045 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: there's a disagreement? 1046 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: So how do you? How do you navigate that? 1047 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy, right, 1048 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends, 1049 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again. 1050 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 3: But I think we are so hungry to make money 1051 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 3: that we look past that and we're able to think 1052 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 3: of the greater purpose. Like if I had a co 1053 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: host that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do 1054 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 3: the job, you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a 1055 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: self starter like I am too. 1056 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not tough. 1057 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 3: Like Mandy and I were on tour putting together the 1058 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 3: merch table or doing something with the merchan of the 1059 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: VIP things. And you know, if I see her doing something, 1060 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't want her to do it alone. 1061 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: Like yeah, because oh nice, okay. 1062 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 3: You know, And I think she feels the same for me, 1063 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 3: so we definitely try and trust me, I have a 1064 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 3: time where I didn't even realize how much work she 1065 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 3: was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets 1066 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 3: and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even 1067 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 3: understand that works. I would try to do it on 1068 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 3: the creative side. But like I think, for me, with partnerships, 1069 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 3: there's a skill set that someone has that I don't. 1070 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 3: You know, wtf is so about the tech which is 1071 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 3: all Alex and not me. But I do have to 1072 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 3: give myself credit on how we were able to get 1073 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 3: this shit going. I just don't know how much I 1074 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 3: rent is where the light deep come from. He don't 1075 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 3: know what the fuck going on, which is great, Yeah, 1076 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: figure out the other shit. Like I really learned how 1077 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: to use our skills and work together in that way, 1078 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 3: and it's definitely been touched. She's one of my tough 1079 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 3: he's one of my best friends, and it's like damn, 1080 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 3: now sometimes it's all work. So we really have to 1081 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: feed that friendship. You know, we have to have a 1082 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: night where we get drunk together and have fun and 1083 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 3: not talk about work. We have to really do that 1084 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 3: to enjoy each other and separate it because it's tough. 1085 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from 1086 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: the nick Cannon area. A lot of people don't know this. 1087 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 3: So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the president of 1088 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: Black Man, yeah. 1089 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 2: My stuff was an accident. It was legit. 1090 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: I was telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed 1091 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: money during the pandemic because I was I was hustling 1092 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: all different directions. But anyways, I was trying to build 1093 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: this show and I was like, Dolly, I think you 1094 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: should be a part of it. But you know, she 1095 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: had this other job offer and she's like should I 1096 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: take him? Like, as long as they don't tell you 1097 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: to go to work, girl, I'm all about taking all checks. 1098 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was the President of the Black 1099 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: Effect or whatever. They happened to need a cooking show 1100 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: and she pitched Eating while Broke and called me like, 1101 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna kill me? And I was like, why would 1102 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: I kill you? And we're actual friends, you know I 1103 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: told you. She's like, I told you know, iHeart and 1104 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: ICM and Charlemagne about Eating while Broke and they loved it. 1105 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so where do I kill you? 1106 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: She's like, well, they you know, we run a podcast network, 1107 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: and your show is you want to do a TV show. 1108 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dolly, the table was just built in my garage. 1109 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: My neighbors are driving past it. I actually don't even 1110 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: know where this table is gonna go, okay, And I 1111 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: think I had just found out I was pregnant or 1112 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: I was like borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit, 1113 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: you know I was doing. 1114 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 2: Illegal weed activity. 1115 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: I was hustling in all these different plings, but I 1116 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: had this idea that was literally sitting in my garage, 1117 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: Like they just finished putting the forks on the table, 1118 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dolly, I'm about to go broke. And 1119 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: I done pitched all my celebrity friends. But I don't 1120 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: even know if we're just taking this table to their 1121 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: house or how we're even doing it. So why would 1122 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: I kill you? Like? 1123 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 2: And she was like, yeah, well, they want. 1124 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: To send you an offer, like and I was like, 1125 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: She's like, can you send me all your decks and stuff? 1126 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, I had already had everything made. 1127 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: But it was really no reason to kill her. But 1128 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: even to this day, like sometimes as friends, I'll have 1129 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: to get on the phone with her and She'll be like, 1130 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends. 1131 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: So that's how we managed the friendship. It'd be like, 1132 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 1: Dolly ain't joining here nothing about work. 1133 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 3: That's tough. When someone's like cutting that's tough. 1134 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. 1135 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I heard an attitude from 1136 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 3: Dolly when I was asking for more money. 1137 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me 1138 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: no so fast. 1139 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, I separate. 1140 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 3: It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not, 1141 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 3: you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I 1142 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 3: remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like 1143 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,919 Speaker 3: I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why 1144 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 3: I go, fuck it? Where am I going to go? 1145 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 3: Like all this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where? 1146 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: Am I gonna go work for someone else? Fucking white dude? 1147 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 3: Like No, I'm gonna make this money with her and 1148 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 3: figure it the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership. 1149 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 3: I recently was at dinner with someone who asked me 1150 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: about books and money spending and things like that, and 1151 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 3: I was like, when you talked about integrity, I just 1152 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 3: thought about it. Whether I'm angry with Mandy or not. 1153 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 3: I've never thought she would like take money from the 1154 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 3: company or something. Right with d Alex and I were bestie, 1155 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 3: so we're not going to fuck each other over. And 1156 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 3: they were telling me about how someone been sneaking money 1157 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 3: out of the their partnership. And I never thought of 1158 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 3: the bad side of what could happen for partnerships, only 1159 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 3: the good. 1160 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 5: Yea. 1161 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: But it's really because I do find strength in numbers, 1162 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,720 Speaker 3: and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds 1163 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 3: your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of 1164 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 3: ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that, 1165 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: Like there's so many times Alex has called me and 1166 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 3: is like, yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David 1167 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 3: Lehiman coming in our studios us right, or maybe I'll 1168 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 3: hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down 1169 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: for a week. We got a deal from Amazon. Like 1170 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 3: it's always one or the other, and it really really helps, 1171 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 3: because when you're trying to get all that different money, 1172 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 3: you can't do all things. I don't believe in people 1173 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 3: that are trying to have too much control over everything, 1174 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 3: you know, That's that's when it gets really tough. That's 1175 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 3: when you get burnt out. You've got to be able 1176 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 3: to alleviate some of that. I'm real cheap and I 1177 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: don't even be wanting to give money up to an assistant, 1178 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 3: but I realize it helps make your life easier. 1179 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I 1180 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: have one as it has been helpful. 1181 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 3: Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the 1182 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 3: studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh 1183 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 3: she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my 1184 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 3: grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one. 1185 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 3: But my sisters like a real nigga, Like she's not 1186 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 3: like she's not, Oh she's so great. She'll call me 1187 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: like these mother, Like she helped me with the thing 1188 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she sent 1189 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: me a screenshot of an email she was like these 1190 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, and like it's so 1191 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 3: funny because like you kind of do have to work 1192 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 3: with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know, if 1193 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 3: she was too tidied up, I don't think I can 1194 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, But like I love partnering and working 1195 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: with people that make me feel like I'm at home. 1196 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because when we. 1197 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 3: Face the world, there's a different person across that, you 1198 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So knowing that we hire black 1199 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: and hire people that are a vibe like yeah, it's 1200 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 3: just it's so great, yeah. 1201 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: I think, but also finding someone that really is invested 1202 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: in your vision and your long term goals. I know 1203 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: with my crew, I love them, like if I feel 1204 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 1: something's de routing, I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together. 1205 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: Let's get to the table and find out what's going on. 1206 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: But we I genuinely like love my crew, Like. 1207 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: Everybody that works for me, I would want to have 1208 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 3: a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I don't 1209 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 3: want to hire anybody that makes me fe like getting 1210 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 3: my nerves and they're weird or like yeah, I want 1211 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: to know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck 1212 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 3: and maybe we don't share those hobbies, like yeah, there 1213 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: has to be some connection there or I won't maybe 1214 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 3: care as much. And I think my thing to being 1215 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 3: a good boss is giving a fuck yeah, you know, 1216 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 3: writing down everyone's birthdays, making sure I get them a gift, 1217 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: sending them text, telling them I appreciate them. I also 1218 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 3: don't say people work for me. Like, if I'm in 1219 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 3: front of someone, I feel like that's. 1220 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: Do you do you call them like your team? How 1221 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 2: do you reference them? 1222 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 3: I'd be like, I say we work together. If someone 1223 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 3: wants to know, oh, I like that. Even if they 1224 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: walk in the studio and they know on the owner, 1225 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 3: I'd be like, this is Danny, he works with us, 1226 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 3: or like that just makes me more comfortable. 1227 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1228 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 3: I find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind 1229 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 3: of just be like they work for me. 1230 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1231 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: I was at an event the other day and someone said, 1232 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm her boss, and I was like, yeah, 1233 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had to say that. I 1234 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: don't even know the point of saying it. But I 1235 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: think mainly in corporate and maybe not very small smaller. 1236 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to say an entrepreneurs. I don't know, 1237 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 2: but I do see. 1238 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: I guess if you're not at the higher level, you 1239 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: see that more because I don't even think the executives 1240 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: be like I'm the boss. 1241 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 3: No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah, 1242 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 3: he was hugging everybody and chilling. I'm like, what, I 1243 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 3: don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know that's the 1244 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 3: thing too. I feel like there's this middle of success 1245 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 3: when you try to prove yourself. I can only relate 1246 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 3: to this. When I was kind of getting some decent money, 1247 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to wear leubatons. I wanted to wear my 1248 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 3: fucking one Louis Biton bag everywhere. I needed to throw 1249 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 3: it in your face. 1250 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1251 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 3: Now I'm kind of like, you know what I mean, 1252 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 3: Like I don't know. 1253 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori school right now. 1254 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay. 1255 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars a month for my one year old 1256 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 2: to go to school. I should just have it as 1257 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 2: a billboard at this point. 1258 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: Oh bro, I feel like I'm luxury and that's really 1259 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: probably a regular person thing. 1260 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 2: But I'm like, now that's a lot. 1261 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 3: That's better than they care, you. 1262 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: Know, I literally, but I brag about it, like and 1263 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how 1264 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: when black people brag when they're rich, Asian people brag 1265 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: when they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich, 1266 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person 1267 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: that was like, I pay two games. 1268 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 3: I try to find ways in a point where I'm 1269 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 3: feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know 1270 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 3: they making my like it's I can't explain it. But 1271 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 3: there's moments where people will make you feel like you 1272 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 3: don't belong in the room there. 1273 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1274 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I might do a little bit of really. 1275 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm trying to think. The last time I 1276 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 3: haven't I had this story. I told him horrible. It's 1277 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 3: on our Patreon where I came back from Paris and 1278 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 3: I was hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. 1279 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 3: It was very small, like thirty people, and after that 1280 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 3: you couldn't tell me shit. It was me and alex 1281 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 3: I was like fuck you bitch, and Mionce with like, 1282 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 3: you know, in the air together. So I just kept 1283 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 3: finding ways to bring it up. So we went to 1284 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 3: like Spotify dinner that week and everybody's just like, oh, 1285 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 3: horrible decisions. Never heard of it. Yes, actually I've been 1286 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: to France, not that you asked, was there whatever, but 1287 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 3: like i'd be trying to figure out a way, but 1288 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, And I think that's kind of when 1289 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 3: you do have and I know that I came from something, 1290 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 3: so I just can't say it came from nothing, but 1291 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 3: like when you had that struggle, you want to know, 1292 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 3: you want people to know I belong here too, Yeah, 1293 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 3: because I have a lot of hell of privileged people 1294 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 3: that I know don't really. 1295 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 2: Have that that driver or the that that they're the backstory, 1296 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 2: they don't need to. 1297 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 3: Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when 1298 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 3: I'm in LA, like grew up rich. I think our 1299 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 3: family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really 1300 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 3: see her tell you anything about her life because she 1301 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 3: realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Yeah, 1302 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 3: like everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told 1303 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 3: her about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like, 1304 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: oh yeah. I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah, 1305 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 3: well I used to hang with the Rnall's when I 1306 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 3: was a kid who own LVMA. 1307 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: That's hilarious And I'm like, okay. 1308 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 3: It's to note the bitch, But like you know, so, 1309 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I wonder if it kind of shows 1310 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 3: that you don't really have much. But what I appreciate 1311 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 3: is like people that can enjoy with you. Like the 1312 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: first person I called after that Beyonce and jay z 1313 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 3: night was charlottmgne cover bed with his wife who was 1314 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 3: eleven thirty at night. Me and Alex are drunk in 1315 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 3: the street or something like, oh, I tell somebody And 1316 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 3: he was so excited and laughing and he's like, y'all 1317 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 3: in now, I'm like, brouh. The next time I see 1318 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 3: them one name, but they put it home the Bitch 1319 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 3: for Paris, and it's just this cool, exciting milestone. But 1320 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 3: maybe I will get to the place where it doesn't 1321 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 3: matter anymore. 1322 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, hope not, no, no, no no. So 1323 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: now that you've traveled the world, you owned companies, you're 1324 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: flying your family out, what advice would you give to someone. 1325 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: That would even just in my shoes? You know? 1326 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: What advice would you give to someone that's playing hasn't 1327 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: fully taken off the ground yet and they've been hovering 1328 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: for a long time. 1329 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 3: I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're 1330 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 3: thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot. 1331 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 3: Whether it be I don't know. This is just made 1332 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 3: me thinking right. Eating while Broke is currently a podcast. 1333 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 3: It seems like next up is TV show that seems 1334 00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 3: like what that is? Right? 1335 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 1: But I also want to do touring, which eighty five 1336 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: South has been like just do it, but Dolly's like 1337 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: hell no, and eighty five for South is like do 1338 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: that shit? 1339 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 3: Why does Dolly say now. 1340 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: She thinks I need to spend more time growing my 1341 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: audience like baby steps and then but I low key 1342 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: secretly want to do ice cube in LA. 1343 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 3: I would tell you for this piece of advice, then 1344 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 3: I would say, you do it in the middle. You 1345 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: do one show. You do one show in your hometown 1346 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 3: or where your largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right, 1347 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm assuming yeah. So it's like you do your LA show, 1348 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 3: you don't tour, you do your LA show. You practice, 1349 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 3: you get your biggest fan based there, you already have 1350 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 3: all your friends come. It's probably where all the talent 1351 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 3: you know is. So you do it right there in LA. 1352 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 3: After you do that, then you kind of get your 1353 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 3: feet wet or this space is semi big. Make a 1354 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 3: Patreon or invite your top fans, mit fifteen fans really 1355 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,959 Speaker 3: and write fifteen fans, have them sitting wide laugh with you. Uh, 1356 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: maybe put the ingredients out there and be like this 1357 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 3: is what I got, y'all gonna help me make this meal? 1358 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 3: Maybe they just shout at you and they share stories 1359 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 3: with you. 1360 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: When you, guys did your Patreon, what were you what 1361 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: was your first Like, did you even think you would 1362 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: make money when you first did the Patreon? 1363 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 3: No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I 1364 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 3: mean I'm sure like there you know, there's patreons bigger 1365 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: than me. But like we did it before. I think 1366 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 3: we were one of the first black popular podcasts that 1367 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 3: we know on there. Like we had our first year 1368 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 3: of year seven, I mean the first year of your seven, 1369 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 3: and we only did it to make more money for 1370 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 3: the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing 1371 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: too much. We ain't making no money. Friend of mine 1372 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 3: was like, have you heard of l Chrapo trap House 1373 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: something like that? It's like a white podcast. I was 1374 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 3: like no, and he's like, they make like ninety round Patreon. 1375 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: You should do You guys were like, dude, du what's 1376 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: that right? 1377 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do 1378 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: make twenty. 1379 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm, get the. 1380 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 3: But to be honest, though, our Patreon, like we started 1381 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 3: a high very early of people that really resonated with 1382 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Mandy and I because we were corporate girls talking about sex, 1383 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: and it was kind of the life that if you 1384 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 3: didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you 1385 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 3: could see yourself living it like host stories while like 1386 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 3: being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever. 1387 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 3: So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money 1388 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 3: for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect. 1389 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small. 1390 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when it got higher, Mandy and I just 1391 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: started spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and 1392 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 3: it became like we were just talking to fans instead 1393 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 3: of like doing a show. You know, like we have 1394 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 3: so so many guests now that people that really fucked 1395 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 3: with Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot 1396 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 3: of people enjoy those episodes more. I love like a 1397 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 3: better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd 1398 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 3: be on zoom. I'd be hungover shit. I think I 1399 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: was still mollied out on one episode. I was like, 1400 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 3: oh my god, you guys didn't sleave anyway, Like people 1401 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 3: like that shit when you're very raw, and so we 1402 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 3: offer that so it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't 1403 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 3: write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now, 1404 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 3: figure out where you talk to them the most, have 1405 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 3: them come and watch. Well. 1406 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I think this season is the most I've seen fans 1407 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll 1408 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 1: get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit. 1409 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 2: We love this sir. Yeah, or like I promise you're 1410 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 2: asking the questions that we want. 1411 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: You to hear, and I'll be like, thank you, because 1412 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I for sure had a shitty day today and I 1413 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: really want to jump off a bridge. But that message 1414 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: just like literally, I know it's random, but you help them. Yeah, 1415 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, you taketed the right time, and I will 1416 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: respond that like, Yo, the timing couldn't have been better, 1417 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: thank you for saving my life. 1418 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 3: Fans too, like we look at other people's numbers and 1419 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 3: comparison is a thief and joy. 1420 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely do. 1421 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll be like, look at them, but you know now, 1422 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I look at y'all and I'll be like, take notes. 1423 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Change when we're in line to them, right, Like I 1424 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 3: remember when call her Daddy made the sixty thousand dollars 1425 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 3: sixty million right, and I was like, oh my god. 1426 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 3: I'll never get me. I was saying ship like that. 1427 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much? 1428 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 3: Like why am I talking like this? 1429 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: You know? 1430 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 3: And we really have to pour into ourselves better because 1431 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 3: we always are looking at something else. I do it 1432 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 3: with my body doing my hair. Shit, I was almost like, 1433 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 3: oh my god, my hair is not brain different. The 1434 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 3: got my hair like thinking about all this little ship 1435 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 3: that doesn't fucking matter. And it's like we need to 1436 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 3: really learn how to be happy with ourselves because like, 1437 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: I think social media has bucked me up. I'm getting 1438 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 3: way better at it, but like body, hair, clothes and success, 1439 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 3: they're all the things I see on Instagram and think 1440 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm not doing well enough with h and this is 1441 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 3: fucked up. But it did happen to me. I went 1442 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 3: to solid Core, which is this like plate's ish cool 1443 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 3: thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York, Big Cities, Atlanta, 1444 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 3: and there's a girl on Instagram I follow that. I 1445 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 3: always thought she was like so fucking insanely hot. When 1446 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 3: I was in the workout, she was right next to 1447 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: me and I recognized her halfway through. She was really struggling. 1448 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 3: And it's not like it's something to make fun of. 1449 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 3: You're already working out. But I got in the car 1450 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 3: and I thought, oh my god, I have I'm stronger 1451 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: than I thought. I was right. I'm looking at this 1452 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 3: girl all the time on my timeline, thinking she's the 1453 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 3: baddest bitch in the world. And I had something like 1454 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 3: she even said to me. I was like, damn bitch, 1455 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 3: she was getting it right. We don't know each other, 1456 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, there's something we all have 1457 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 3: that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking and you're 1458 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 3: thinking that, it's not shit me. I want kids so bad. Really, yes, 1459 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 3: I would love to have kids, like I would love 1460 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 3: to have. 1461 01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Over to you for a weekend. 1462 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Oh my mom would love to watch over. My mom 1463 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 3: love taking somebody's baby. 1464 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh she's in LA. 1465 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: That's perfect because I ain't got no family in I 1466 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: pay every minute a well. 1467 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 3: Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but 1468 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 3: she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby, 1469 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 3: Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this 1470 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 3: damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby proud anyway, 1471 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's 1472 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 3: problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but 1473 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 3: I think about that. I think. 1474 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 1475 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 3: I was at a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately 1476 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 3: needs her, and I was like, like three people had 1477 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 3: asked me for a picture when I was in the auditorium, 1478 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, like, I wonder if they think 1479 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm like living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn, 1480 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 3: you came from LA to be here. Someone said that 1481 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 3: to me, and I was like, when I could like 1482 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 3: die to be one of the parents in the front. 1483 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Oh wow, But you never know, right, Like there's always 1484 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 3: something we all want. I think we all need that 1485 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 3: little drama in our lives to keep going. 1486 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: You think so oh, like the when you say drama, 1487 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: like the need to want something more? 1488 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, how are we going to be autopilot if we 1489 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 3: have all we want? Like what do you want? 1490 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 5: Oh? 1491 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 2: I want this guy's limit. 1492 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: It's funny though, because I used to always want like 1493 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: the marriage and the baby, because I always felt like 1494 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I was good at business and then I just sucked 1495 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: at personal. But now that I experienced marriage and the baby, 1496 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I'm gonna stay in my business 1497 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: life because I suck at it. It's just like yo, 1498 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: you know what I have to chop it up to Like, 1499 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: it's just not my forte. I don't know why I 1500 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: can't master my personal but I could. 1501 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 3: It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you 1502 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 3: can control. 1503 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it because I feel like in business, 1504 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working, 1505 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd 1506 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know 1507 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 1: what to say. 1508 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,479 Speaker 3: Is tough. Yeah, money we can control, Like I feel 1509 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 3: like I can make a million dollars easier than I 1510 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 3: can find a good person to date. I mean, it's 1511 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 3: fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that. 1512 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 3: I feel like when it's things you can control, like 1513 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's 1514 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 3: people out there that are working hard as fucking or 1515 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 3: not getting there, but like you could possibly take up 1516 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 3: another hustle to find some more money. 1517 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:04,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1518 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 3: But I was taking pictures out of Oo pizzeria on 1519 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 3: the side because they would give me one hundred dollars 1520 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 3: a night, okay for five hours, and I would just 1521 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 3: take pictures, pictures and I would flip them a little bit. 1522 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The pictures of fifteen, but 1523 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 3: i'd tell people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding 1524 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 3: that hustle. I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs. 1525 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 3: That was a caddy girl one day, Like I told 1526 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 3: you that. 1527 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Like, do you think now 1528 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: do you think entrepreneurs are like born out the womb 1529 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 1: or do you think they could go to college and 1530 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: then become an entrepreneur. 1531 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 3: I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone. Yeah, because I 1532 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 3: think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a 1533 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 3: nine to five, I think the goal for me, before 1534 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 3: realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to 1535 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 3: make two fifty at a. 1536 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 2: Corporate I'm still praying to hit that too fuch at 1537 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:55,919 Speaker 2: a corporate job. 1538 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh, at a corporate That to me would have made 1539 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 3: me not do anything else. Okay, because the one seventy 1540 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 3: five was great. I was living a great apartment and traveling, 1541 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 3: but my parents needed help and I was like, oh, 1542 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 3: I need more money for my parents. If I had 1543 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: two fifty, that's money I could have to help them. 1544 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 3: And if I want to have a kid, I can 1545 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,439 Speaker 3: live in this money, but mind you in New York. 1546 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city might be 1547 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 3: a million dollars. Yeah, my rent even then was twenty five. 1548 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro Yeah. But I say all that to 1549 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 3: say nine to fivers are making a lot more money 1550 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are 1551 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 3: out here really struggling. It's tough. But I think it's 1552 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 3: because some people are chasing a dream that they think 1553 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 3: they should do when really that's not it. 1554 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: How would they identify the dream that is it though? 1555 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: And from the dream that isn't. 1556 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 3: I think one if it feels like a passion, are 1557 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 3: you happy doing it? 1558 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 5: Like? 1559 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Are you doing it because you actually love this? Like 1560 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 3: why do you love making? Eating while broke? 1561 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I 1562 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: have some rich friends and they always tell me they 1563 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: were like in jail somewhere or they were so on 1564 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the ask somewhere, and I'm like, wait, you and you 1565 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 1: live in the seven thousand square Foo mansion in La Oh, 1566 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,560 Speaker 1: tell me more. And I just love it. Like I 1567 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: would hang out and I just love the stories. I'd 1568 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, but you know. 1569 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 3: And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired. 1570 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 2: But I was. 1571 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 1: Definitely lucky because I felt like the friends that I have, 1572 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like if I'm like, Damn, this bill was high, I'd 1573 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: be like, you wouldn't understand it, be like try me. 1574 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I'd be like a thousand bucks to be like, no, 1575 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,440 Speaker 1: that bill's. 1576 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 2: High, you know. I'd really and they'd be like, no, 1577 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 2: it's high, you know. 1578 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 1: And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some 1579 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: friends that really like that. I felt like, damn, you're 1580 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: hanging out with me, Like if you and I hung out, 1581 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I would be lowkey geeked just because you have a 1582 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: great personality, but I would also be lowkey geeked because 1583 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: I'm like I look up to you, like I definitely 1584 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 1: admire you, you know. 1585 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 3: I feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like, 1586 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 3: are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe 1587 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 3: like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours, 1588 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like it's 1589 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 3: still appears. 1590 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, you're more than just a pot. 1591 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 1: Like in my eyes, well you and Mandy accomplished was great, 1592 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: But you gotta think you're a beautiful attractive woman in 1593 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. I have sidebar conversations all the time. 1594 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I'll leave a meeting, I'll be like, this person wants 1595 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to fuck, and my friends will be like, how do 1596 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, and be like, Bro, I've been in this 1597 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: game way too long. I can tell by the questions 1598 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: that the hints they want to fuck, and then I 1599 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman, Okay, then 1600 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: you're an entertainment. Then you're an entrepreneurs, then you're handling 1601 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales, 1602 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: nothing excites me, you know how you get when I 1603 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 1: hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this 1604 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 1: is a it says, this is a real, real time, 1605 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 1: you know. But so I look at someone like you 1606 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe 1607 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: like you know, like you know geeks, and same with 1608 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: my friends. Like I have my homie day Storm, I'll 1609 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 1: hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will 1610 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,719 Speaker 1: only hang out when we work out, which sucks because 1611 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: his workouts are absolutely terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts. 1612 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 2: Like if I want to have a talk a day Storm, I'm. 1613 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Like, I'll be at your house at four to work out, 1614 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: and it'll be the worst workout of the century, you know, 1615 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: But I still look up to him, and I'll still 1616 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: be like geeked, Like yo, I could walk into your 1617 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: house or borrow your house for the weekend. And but I, 1618 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: even though we're friends, I still look up to you, 1619 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: and you're vulnerable. But they're the real inspiration behind my show. 1620 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: They're realize stories and realize advice. 1621 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 3: And honestly sharing that to the world and then you 1622 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 3: receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having 1623 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,600 Speaker 3: the passion that making you feel good learning in the 1624 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 3: middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going, 1625 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But also I think the 1626 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,759 Speaker 3: largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular 1627 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 3: job or a steady gig, they leave it for the 1628 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 3: passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that, 1629 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,719 Speaker 3: Like I was working eighty hours a week doing horrible 1630 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, literally coming in with my suitcase 1631 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 3: to the office, like, oh, I went to go see 1632 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 3: my parents, but really I had a fucking four hundred 1633 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,799 Speaker 3: seat show that we fill down and like that. Today 1634 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 3: is different now it's double right and it feels great, 1635 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 3: but like, nah, I had to do both. I think 1636 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 3: living in the entertainment industry today is interesting because it 1637 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 3: could be anybody, right, Like, influencers have really ruined fame? 1638 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 2: You think so? 1639 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I guess I could see that. It's weird because 1640 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: I see, like I feel like they're self made and 1641 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 1: they work very hard, like when you look at the 1642 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they work hard. 1643 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 2: But I definitely will say I don't know. I would 1644 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 2: like to hear your perspective on it. 1645 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 3: I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless, 1646 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 3: the content creation as a form of a talent. Like 1647 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,639 Speaker 3: if the Internet is gone, then where do you take 1648 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 3: it and what do you do with it? You know, 1649 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 3: I have a big influencer that reached out to me. 1650 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 3: They're not going broke or anything like they're making like 1651 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 3: maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me 1652 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 3: and we're like, I need you to have dinner with 1653 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 3: me or some shit and influences me to do some 1654 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 3: other shit. Because I realized this is like just what 1655 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 3: if Instagram doesn't want me to do ads anymore? What 1656 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 3: if Instagram stops advertisments for influencers, what if the hashtag 1657 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 3: goes away? Like she was terrified, and it was when 1658 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 3: TikTok was about to get banned or something, and I 1659 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 3: was like, damn. I'm like, I don't know half of 1660 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 3: my nas year off of heigi ads. But she was right, 1661 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 3: like I didn't do anything else. I've just been learning 1662 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 3: this one skill and that shit is tough because like, 1663 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, I wouldn't want my kids to be 1664 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 3: an influencer. I think it also inflates when I say 1665 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 3: it ruined fame, like you have movie stars, actors, actresses, 1666 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 3: and even podcasters make fame to me, like it's not real. 1667 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten 1668 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo, 1669 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 1: if your bank account still read zero, who gives a 1670 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: fuck about some likes? 1671 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 3: But the same shit is weird because the likes and 1672 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 3: all this stuff makes you think you're better than you 1673 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 3: are when there's so many more of you, so you 1674 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,919 Speaker 3: really have to find a thing that makes you different. 1675 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 3: Like honest, I follow so many girls that are just 1676 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 3: hot and kind of look the same because of their 1677 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 3: clothes or their workouts. Or whatever. I don't think I 1678 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 3: know their names. 1679 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 2: Really no. 1680 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 3: I remember sitting at Lucy and it's my favorite restaurant 1681 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 3: New York. I always go there in the East Village 1682 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 3: and I was looking at this girl and I tapped 1683 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 3: her and I was like, do I know you? Do 1684 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 3: we have a school together? Genuinely didn't know. I feel 1685 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 3: like I know you, And she was like, oh, I'm 1686 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 3: an influencer. I was like, maybe I follow you. What's 1687 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 3: your name? Didn't ring a bell? Looked at it and 1688 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I've been following this bitter a minute. 1689 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 2: But that's it. 1690 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 3: You're not even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's 1691 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,759 Speaker 3: just grid post after grid post up or something something. 1692 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 3: That's why people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty V. 1693 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 3: They fucking stick out because we know what they're doing. 1694 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know. Well, 1695 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 1: I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt, 1696 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: she's she's also hard. 1697 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 2: She's like a hustler too. 1698 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than 1699 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: an influencer. Know she started that way, you know you could. 1700 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I feel the same with like b Simone, but something that. 1701 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 3: I have something that they do. 1702 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 1: But I will say I honestly say like and it 1703 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: could be just me vibed, but I would say almost 1704 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: ninety percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere 1705 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I'll be like after interview reps, I'll be like, Wow, 1706 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I called bullshit, and I won't say who, but there 1707 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: was a couple of episodes where my team I'll be like, damn, 1708 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than 1709 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: what they were. And then when I got in, I 1710 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: was like, you don't know your shit, You're a fake. 1711 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 3: Maybe some people just get lucky. 1712 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey, 1713 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you. 1714 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved. 1715 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,879 Speaker 3: Strange when people don't credit those that helped along the way. 1716 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 2: I think it's completely strange. 1717 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 3: Do you know one of them? 1718 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 1: By the way, if you're on my show and I 1719 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests, 1720 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: but I will go me even the show raps, I'll 1721 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,639 Speaker 1: be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because 1722 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,600 Speaker 1: their story isn't adding up, And I will literally you 1723 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: could ask my crew. 1724 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 2: I will be wait, it was. 1725 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,560 Speaker 3: Mine, the sugar Daddy. 1726 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 2: Your story was as real as they get. 1727 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: But you know, you know you could tell because they'll 1728 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: be a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some 1729 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: part of the story where you'd be like that that 1730 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: doesn't line up. There's something missing there. I can always 1731 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 1: tell because I like, well, you. 1732 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 3: Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show, 1733 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 3: right the highlight reels that they need to show. 1734 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 2: The struggle on this show. 1735 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 1: On this show, you gotta tell me to credit your wife. 1736 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 3: If you're not giving other people their flower, it never 1737 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 3: takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlottagne 1738 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 3: makes me do that more than anyone like. It makes 1739 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 3: me thank my team so much. Like I've never seen 1740 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 3: anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even when 1741 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 3: I pay him a compliment, just no one else around 1742 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 3: Damn you kill this shit man. That was some though. 1743 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I've never really I've seen Charlomage 1744 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: one time, so I literally saw him, was like, thank 1745 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 1: you so much for everything you do for me. 1746 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 3: Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta. 1747 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. And that's all I said was 1748 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 2: thank you. 1749 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 3: What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic. And 1750 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 3: I think I made a joke on a podcast and 1751 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 3: I tested it once. I was like, man like, they 1752 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 3: were like, who do you think is someone that you've 1753 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 3: met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different? 1754 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I was like, Charlomanne answers the phone every time. I 1755 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 3: think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like, he's 1756 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 3: literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast. I 1757 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 3: was up, he's monnies me, Like, just really wants to 1758 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 3: make sure he's accessible to people that he cares about. 1759 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 3: And I think that's what's inspired me to be a 1760 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 3: really good leader and just all around good person when 1761 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 3: it comes to people that have paved the way, because like, 1762 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 3: we don't see that, we see a lot of I 1763 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 3: I I, yeah, you know. 1764 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Well. 1765 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Also, I think the cool thing about him is that 1766 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,719 Speaker 1: he has like an all black woman team pretty much, 1767 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: and he treats all those women great. Because I've worked 1768 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: for other people and with other people in the industry 1769 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 1: and it ain't like that it's more of the boy's club. 1770 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: I see the boys getting blessed and the woman getting dirty. 1771 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 3: And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah, 1772 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 3: Like I heard him on a I had a call 1773 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 3: with him for something else, and the other person on 1774 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 3: the other end of the call was very like, what's 1775 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of 1776 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 3: themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne 1777 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 3: was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think 1778 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 3: visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib, 1779 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 3: but he was like on a chair on a porch, 1780 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 3: just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is 1781 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 3: suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for 1782 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,720 Speaker 3: me to be on this call. Just I could tell 1783 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 3: you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of 1784 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 3: himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow, 1785 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 3: he didn't even feel the need to like do it 1786 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,680 Speaker 3: up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this. 1787 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 3: His brand is so raw, and I think we have 1788 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 3: to be that way. We can't try to be the 1789 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 3: person that we think other people would like, because they'll 1790 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 3: smell it just like you do. You know what I'm saying. 1791 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 3: People smell that all day every day. You could be 1792 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 3: a casual listener that's in that YouTube that's like this 1793 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 3: person's a liar. 1794 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, people clock it. Yeah. 1795 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,679 Speaker 3: And for you to know that as someone that's bringing 1796 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 3: these people in, like I think that says a lot. 1797 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1798 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1799 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 3: Eventually we'll get to the. 1800 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Space where there's like I can actually call bullshit on 1801 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 1: the mic. I'm not there yet, I know, but there 1802 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 1: have been a couple where I'm like, bull shit, what 1803 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 1: about you? 1804 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 3: Being like, there's got to be a. 1805 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh I go in and you can tell because they 1806 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: won't answer the question. And that's how I know it's bullshit. 1807 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, you're just boying. I'll ask seven 1808 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: different ways. I'm like, Okay, I call bullshit, but I 1809 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: won't say it on the mic yet. I'm not there yet. 1810 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: Plus I gotcha host, They're like, oh, like be there 1811 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:52,360 Speaker 3: for the moment. 1812 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1813 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you know 1814 01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 1: with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability a 1815 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: little bit deep, and I like to say to everybody 1816 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 1: it's a safe space. Like if I think there's something 1817 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 1: that you're going to say on our show that I 1818 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 1: think is going to ruin your career or cancel you 1819 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 1: do you don't even have to send your publicists or 1820 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: whoever over to like, oh my god, Colleen or beg me, 1821 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to remove it just on game. I'm just 1822 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 1: you shared your story. 1823 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those 1824 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 3: moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't 1825 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 3: want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money 1826 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 3: about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah, 1827 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 3: you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone 1828 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 3: in your space to like do that m h. And 1829 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 3: she's just sticking out of my mind right now. I'm 1830 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 3: not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's a 1831 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 3: it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe she's 1832 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 3: on more streams than almost who knows, But like, I 1833 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 3: don't know if I could do it. 1834 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about honestly, like Jason Lee, to 1835 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,840 Speaker 1: be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd 1836 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have 1837 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 1: this conversation with little brother all the time, and I'm 1838 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out, Like 1839 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: because I look at such and such kind of like 1840 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 1: how you look at social media, be like, look at 1841 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,679 Speaker 1: this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't 1842 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then 1843 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 1: they Jason Lee. 1844 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 3: At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I 1845 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 3: think you know what you're getting when you go on 1846 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 3: the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like 1847 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 3: ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone 1848 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:27,639 Speaker 3: keep going on there? 1849 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but. 1850 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 3: You don't know what she's the black girl that had 1851 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 3: the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions 1852 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 3: and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there. 1853 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 3: She was her famous one. 1854 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 2: But what was she ask them? 1855 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 3: She would just ask them questions that would make them 1856 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,520 Speaker 3: look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram 1857 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 3: and had them point out someone She was like, oh, 1858 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 3: so you think that white people are superior type shit? 1859 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 3: Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of 1860 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 3: those and I think like people prepare themselves for those 1861 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,639 Speaker 3: funny Marco. I don't know how people. 1862 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,559 Speaker 1: Say what that nes is that the one is where 1863 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 1: the guy just says like insulting things or something kind 1864 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 1: of yeah, because I saw that show and I was like, look, 1865 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 1: I just love that show period. 1866 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: But like it's content. 1867 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's content is very good. 1868 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 3: I think maybe it's just content that I can't make, 1869 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 3: but yeah, you know, it's hard for me to push 1870 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 3: unless I think something's wrong, Like I do Man on 1871 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 3: the Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this 1872 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 3: guy talked about how he had another girl to work 1873 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 3: or do something and I was like, he's black. Oh, 1874 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 3: all kind of girls you day, and he's like, I 1875 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 3: prefer white. And then I can see the camera crewisers 1876 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 3: in the back, like oh, like really, he was like, yeah, 1877 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 3: I just updated a black girl and they're really crazy. 1878 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so have you ever met a Karen? 1879 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 3: He was like, well, I don't think that type of way. Oh, 1880 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 3: but there are crazy white women. 1881 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: But basically right now, my future ex husband he loves 1882 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 1: white women. But his thing is that black women's standards 1883 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 1: are are higher or like they're not as easy as 1884 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,679 Speaker 1: a white girl, and so he lives for the white girls. 1885 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 2: He lives for that's. 1886 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 3: Literally only cheated, I mean the white women, to the 1887 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 3: point that I was like, you must, yeah, you must, 1888 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 3: you're dating me, So your mom is happy. Yeah, and 1889 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 3: then I realized, oh, maybe I was just light skinning up. 1890 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 1: Like, do you This is completely random, but I have 1891 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,719 Speaker 1: a pet peeve about dating a guy that only dates 1892 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 1: mixed girls. 1893 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 2: I can't do it. 1894 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 3: I haven't missed. 1895 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 2: I feel like you haven't. 1896 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 3: Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until. 1897 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 2: You don't know, but when you find I know. 1898 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: For me, I just feel like there's a little bit 1899 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,720 Speaker 1: of colorism issues there, Like dudes that are like I 1900 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 1: only like light skin I'm like, all right, I don't know, 1901 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,519 Speaker 1: that's weird. But I started to think when my ex 1902 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: husband my future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just 1903 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,400 Speaker 1: likes white girls and he's just saying that as like 1904 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: a cover up. 1905 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. 1906 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 3: He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah, exactly, 1907 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 3: like on some real shit. I think it's kind of 1908 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 3: scary because you really have to clock them as light 1909 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 3: skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like 1910 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,600 Speaker 3: this shit is not cute for like a man that 1911 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 3: you're dating to only date. I had a guy tell 1912 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 3: me once that I was acting dark skin He told 1913 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 3: me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly. 1914 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 3: Like most mixed girls. Wow, And he was like, you 1915 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 3: talk different. Wow. 1916 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,639 Speaker 2: Yeah I don't like that. Yeah I don't. I won't. 1917 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 2: I won't. 1918 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Well right now, thank god, I'm like one hundred percent 1919 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 1: focused on not dating, which is this is the longest 1920 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:26,799 Speaker 1: I've ever been seeing. 1921 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 3: That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to 1922 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 3: act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in 1923 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 3: the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone. 1924 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 3: I like how you be positioned in it too. I 1925 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 3: want to date so bad, man, but it's it's tough, 1926 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,520 Speaker 3: and honestly. 1927 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly, 1928 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm terrible. If it wasn't for my high school friends 1929 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: scooping me off the floor behind closed doors. 1930 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:52,800 Speaker 2: Girl, he's gonna. 1931 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,480 Speaker 3: Be okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, I have responsibilities, 1932 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 3: like hate to get more of it. But the only 1933 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 3: things that have kept me from killing myself is my 1934 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,719 Speaker 3: dog and my team. And it's not because they're encouraging 1935 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 3: me to stay, you know, and it's like, hey, we 1936 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 3: need you to be alive so we can make money. 1937 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,680 Speaker 3: But like, literally I think about them and I'm like 1938 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:10,679 Speaker 3: one of the people that worked for me I recently 1939 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 3: found out used to be homeless and thanks me all 1940 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,599 Speaker 3: the time for being able to do things for their 1941 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,839 Speaker 3: mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random 1942 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,640 Speaker 3: texts from a lot of our staff at two in 1943 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 3: the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all 1944 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 3: these niggas is wrong and it's such a good feeling. 1945 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 3: But I think about that. I think about that when 1946 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 3: I'm getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah, 1947 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, you are helping all 1948 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 3: of these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in 1949 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 3: the world. And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit. 1950 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 3: I was just being trauma queen one day. I was like, 1951 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to be here anymore. And I looked 1952 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 3: at her. I was like, who's gonna feed me up 1953 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,559 Speaker 3: with those little things? Like really got to bring you back. 1954 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 3: But when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that 1955 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 3: are listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well, 1956 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 3: who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self? 1957 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1958 01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 3: Right? Everything is momentary. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes 1959 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 3: when you get in a big check, it might be momentary. 1960 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Like everything is. 1961 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,639 Speaker 3: Kind of momentary. It's just that feeling that will last 1962 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 3: for a little bit, as strong emotions only for a 1963 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 3: little bit, even when you're crazy in love. It just 1964 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 3: kind of lasts for a period of time. And I 1965 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,680 Speaker 3: think that when we're down, we feel like it's the end. 1966 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 3: But you've gotta have faith in your future self. 1967 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. 1968 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 1: No, now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo, 1969 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: if you leave and you the number one gangst the 1970 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze 1971 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 1: than you? 1972 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 2: Then then what's she gonna have? 1973 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, I guess, I guess that's it. 1974 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But I do think too though. 1975 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you are having a bad day and you 1976 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 1: have all these responsibilities, I'll. 1977 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Be like, well, how can I go? I got like 1978 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 2: sixteen things planned next week that I have to get done. 1979 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 2: I can't even take the one day off. 1980 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 3: This is why they said they all done. There say 1981 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 3: this thing about how you have to have something for 1982 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 3: two week, month, No, I think next days, week or month. 1983 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember what it is, but it's basically so 1984 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 3: that you don't get to where you feel like you 1985 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,759 Speaker 3: have nothing. There has to be something on the calendar, 1986 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 3: whether it be a workout, whether it be a nail, 1987 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 3: something you scheduled for yourself. Even if it's not a trip, 1988 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 3: it's dinner at a cool place. You gotta have something 1989 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 3: because if you don't have that, then you feel hopeless, 1990 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,759 Speaker 3: like we need to have those things. My mother actually 1991 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 3: gets like that. My mom's in her seventies. She gets 1992 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 3: so bored. 1993 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 2: I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom. 1994 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, baby something to do bad. She does 1995 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 3: it with random people in like restaurants, especially if they're 1996 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 3: like black and cool. Shed just be looking at the baby. 1997 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 3: She won't talk either. She'll just start to do this 1998 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,679 Speaker 3: while the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking 1999 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 3: to me. 2000 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good 2001 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 1: time having you that. 2002 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,559 Speaker 2: I hope that now that you're in LA, or when 2003 01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,120 Speaker 2: you pop in LA, you hit me up. 2004 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: Please do and hopefully you know if you pass a 2005 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 1: rich dude and you want to pull me to my 2006 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 1: first school, I want to. I want to experience I've 2007 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 1: never done it girl arrangement. 2008 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 2: I will. I'm serious. 2009 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:14,799 Speaker 3: I want to Chuggard at your website. 2010 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I want to. 2011 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out and I'm gonna be texting 2012 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 1: you girl. You would not believe it. 2013 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 3: Financial domination, Financial domination. You got to make people feel 2014 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 3: like shiit online and they just send you money for 2015 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:26,639 Speaker 3: doing it. 2016 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay picks, 2017 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 1: pay picks, but thank you for taking time out of 2018 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,000 Speaker 1: be a crazy schedule to come visit and cook for 2019 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: me before we close out? 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I go to a brothel this season. 2038 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 3: It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really. 2039 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I sat down with a client. 2040 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,599 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy. 2041 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 3: My favorite episode of all time on there was when 2042 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 3: my mom did phone sex. That was crazy. 2043 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:39,759 Speaker 2: I feel like I would be greatest phone sex. 2044 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 3: By the way, maybe you would, it's I would. 2045 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 2: I would be phenomenal. 2046 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 3: Just so I covered the business that does it. She 2047 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 3: teaches women how to keep them on the phone. 2048 01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 2: And like, I was in a celibate relationship, so I 2049 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:49,919 Speaker 2: will say. 2050 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 3: I just got out of a smular relationship. 2051 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it. 2052 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,559 Speaker 1: I have hundred and then I got with my husband, 2053 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,720 Speaker 1: who was like the opposite, just a SuperH and I 2054 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 1: was like. 2055 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 2: This is the best. 2056 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 1: But it came out of a celibate relationship and ran 2057 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 1: right to the opposite. 2058 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,719 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, you need to do it three times 2059 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 3: a week. 2060 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2061 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 1: But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode of 2062 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Eating while Broke. 2063 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 2: I'm your girl. Colleen, and this is Wheezy Bye, y'all. 2064 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:19,880 Speaker 3: Bys. 2065 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,879 Speaker 1: For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 2066 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,599 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 2067 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:48,759 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.