1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into Paria a more summer Monday. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Unfortunately that I think a lot of us were hoping 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: this day would be. It is the day after the 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Browns lose to the Tennessee Titans three to thirteen. On 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs, He's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble and this 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: is the best podcast available. Thanks for tuning in to us, gentlemen. Uh, 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: just one of those days and it's snowballed, and it's 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: snowballed quickly, and there was no recovering yesterday. Yeah, I 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: just don't think any of us expected that. And I 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: think that's it's I've been telling a lot of people this. 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: It's like, it's not like I watched this team in 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: training camp, thinking seeing that kind of penalties, lack of 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: discipline all and stuff. We didn't see any of that, 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: and I think that that's what made it most surprising. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: I think it was surprising to the players. I think 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: goes surprising to the coaches, definitely surprising all the fans 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: that were there. I mean, it was just it was 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: it was just a total downer. And I think that 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: the fact is you got blown out in the end, 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: which the score may have been misleading there, but it 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: was also misleading in that you should have been down 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: my more than a touchdown at halftime. I mean, you 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: were just playing terrible football after that first five minutes. So, uh, 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: just not good. Fortunately it's Week one, but that's that's 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: the If this happens in the middle of the season, 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: you don't get the the overreaction. This is the byproduct 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: of of Week one. You gotta take your medicine. People 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: are gonna overreact, and that's that's kind of what's going 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: on right now. Yeah, and we've had a unique offseason 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: in which we've been you know, the headliners usually were 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: the afterthought, are the ones that people like to you know, 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: with the butt of jokes, and this time around, this 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: franchise has been the one that everybody's wanting to talk about. 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of hypes arounding this team. 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: So losing in such fashion and and yeah, it was 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: the game closer than the final score indicated it was 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: for three quarters and then it just kind of unraveled 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Um, you know, losing in this 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: fashion is is going to make you know that medicine 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: that you know Andrew said that the Browns are gonna 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: have to take. It's just gonna make it that much, 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, more difficult. It's tougher to swallow. But the 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: good thing is it's only one game the fifteen games left, 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: and you know we're one week away from the second 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to record a W. All right, let's get right 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: into it. This first part of the podcast we call 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: four downs for obvious reasons. Uh. First down, though, the 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: question for all of you, uh, what did we learn 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: from Sunday's game? What did we learn about this football 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: team after week one dribble? We'll start with you, Uh 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: that the first thing I learned is that this you 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: can add as many playmakers as you want to the team. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that it's just gonna work amazingly every time. 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I almost think that the first drive against the Redskins 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: week one of the preseason, and then this first drive 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Titans, it makes it look so easy, 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: and when when you do get things clicking, it does 58 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: look easy. But you just can't do that every single drive. 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: And I think that the way that this team has 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: made things look good is by the kind of these 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: first down throws after first down throws. We really haven't 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: seen an established run, heavy drive or anything like that. 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of been the same recipe, and I 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: think that that to me, that means this thing is 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna take some time offensively before you get to maybe 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: reach that level that you want to reach with this 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: kind of playmakers in this kind of quarterback. And I 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: think that's why you had to lean on your defense 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, and you were for a while, 70 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: but the big plays just weren't there when you needed 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: the most. Yeah, you know, the offense didn't really do 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the defense any favors in the first half. And I 73 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: think part of that came from knowing that you have 74 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: such talented playmakers on your team and you want to 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: make the most of them. And you want to get 76 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Odell in a one on one run down the sideline. 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: You want to get Jarvis going and he didn't really 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: get going until the third quarter. You want to get 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: the other guys going, and sometimes that affects the way 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: you call plays and the way that you go about 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: operating your offense. And and there was a pretty quick 82 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: shift away from the run, trying to establish you know, 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: big chunk plays very quickly and Uh, and I think 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: it hurt them in in their ability to not only 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, move the chains, but also maintain in possession. 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the time of possession overall was pretty much 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: even between the two teams once we got to the 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: end of it. But for a while there, the Browns 89 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: couldn't really do anything and when it came to moving 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: the ball because they were behind the sticks from penalties, 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: or they were you know, throwing deep on first and 92 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: second down, or in one instance it was second and 93 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: one and third and one, they threw deep both times 94 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: and they just needed a yard. So I think some 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: of the excitement from the off season, knowing how much 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: potentially you have on this roster, influenced some of that too, 97 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, a detrimental effect on Sunday. What else did 98 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you learn from Sunday's game? Uh, The importance of offensive 99 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: line depth and how ready you have to be to 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: be able to replace somebody in in an a pinch. 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: You know, Greg Robinson getting ejected for something that was 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: probably more overblown then you know, by the officials and 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: by SloMo replays than what actually happened. I think is 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: one part of it. Um. You know, when he left 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you obviously had to shift move Kenda Lamb into left tackle, 106 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt, and then you have to 107 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: move Chris Hubbard over to the left tackle, and you're 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: playing Justin McCrae at right tackle, who is usually a 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: guard mostly a guard in his career, has some experience 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: playing tackle, but is more comfortable at guard um. And 111 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it just illustrated how important 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: it is to have reliable guys as backups. And that's 113 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: what John Dorsey, you know, spent the cutdown weekend doing. 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: It was trying to acquire those guys and you know, 115 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately had to put one of them in UH in 116 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: the first week of the season. And and we saw 117 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: how it affected the offensive rhythm because as you're trying 118 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: to erase a deficit that wasn't huge and you want 119 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: to take those shots down the field and you don't 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: have that time to throw. It just makes for an 121 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: ugly offensive day. And Baker Mayfield was running for his 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: life on more than a few occasions. And you know, overall, 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: I mean we saw the result. You know, it's thirteen 124 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: points and a thirty point loss. I will say this, 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they lost because of the makeshift offensive 126 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: line you had to have. I thought, all things considered, 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: it could have been much more of a disaster. They 128 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: lost because a penalties Like and that was just said. 129 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you might have had more penalties because of 130 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: your makeshift offensive line. But I don't think that I 131 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: cannot put I put the offensive line issues in my 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: like top five, I'm not putting in my top three. 133 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: I think just because I think those guys, considering the circumstances, 134 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: I'll give them a little bit of credit that they 135 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 1: held their own in a really terrible situation for forty 136 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: six plays they had to go with that lineup, knowing 137 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: they had no more backups and two guys playing out 138 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: of position. It wasn't as bad as it could have been. 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Definitely threw things off and made things kind of a 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: mess for you, But had you not committed eight teen penalties, 141 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: you might have been a little to weather the song 142 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, not only that, but you're maxed 143 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: out on offensive lineman. The joke WU at some points 144 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: getting evaluated for what we thought maybe was it concussion 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: because he took some kind of hearted he's in the tent. 146 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: Now you're like, well, now we're now to two tight ends. 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Harris is out too. Harris is out, and then you're 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: going we we I don't know who's going to play 149 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: on the line if someone else comes down and and 150 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: he's right. You know, they did do a good job 151 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: in that, in that circumstance, but because of you know, 152 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: that shuffling, I think there was also additional you know, 153 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: we had McCray, you know, a crew to hold and 154 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and you had Dimitri's hair scape flagged for a holding 155 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: and Najoku was flagged for a hold even though it 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: was called on hair, So it was pretty clear that 157 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: it was na Joko, I mean everybody. The collective effort 158 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: to try to create space to run the football or 159 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: just to try to gain yards was you know, it 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: drew a lot of penalties and ended up putting the 161 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Browns behind the sticks. And then from that point, you know, 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: there are some situations, and they talked about this after 163 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the game yesterday, there are something you can overcome that 164 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you can overcome first and ten, I mean first 165 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: and fifteen first and sometimes, but you can't do it 166 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: every time. And it seemed like every time they were 167 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: always behind the stakes, behind schedule, and it doomed them offensively. 168 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: All right, your next takeaway, in other words, what we 169 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: like to call third down take away from Sunday Gribel. 170 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, I just, I mean, have we talked about 171 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: penalties enough? Because this is it's just that you can't win. 172 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: My my biggest number is now the eighteen. That's not 173 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: my biggest number. The number is the number thirteen, which 174 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: is the difference in the number of penalties that you 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: had compared to the Tennessee Titans. When you have that 176 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: lack of discipline compared to a team that had the 177 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: extreme opposite end of that, only five penalties in a 178 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: game where we know there's a lot of penalties usually 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: called Week one. Freddy Kitchens reminded us of that Friday. 180 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's some games where you might, like the 181 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Colts preseason game. Both teams committed a lot of penalties. 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: You ultimately won that game because it was affecting both sides. 183 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: But when you commit that many penalties for that manyards 184 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: and the other team isn't I mean, it's it's truly 185 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: impossible to win and a miracle that you were in 186 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: the game in the third quarter. Yeah, you know you 187 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: want to go with the number. It's another another one 188 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: that's related to that that Freddy Kitchens mentioned today, which 189 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: is forty five forty five yards awarded to the Tennessee 190 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Titans on one offensive possession that resulted in their first 191 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: touchdown of the day by way of Brown's defensive penalties 192 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: three times in that drive. It was third in a 193 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: in a variety of businesses, third and fourteen, uh, third 194 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: and four and think third and six. Uh, third and fourteen. 195 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: They got a new fresh set of downs because da 196 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Marius Randall was maybe a half second early and he 197 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: was called for a hold, which doesn't really make sense, 198 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: but either way it would have been a passenger ferrance. 199 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: We understand what was called there. That was a fresh 200 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: set of downs. You saw. You got another one where 201 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson was flagged for roughing the passer and if 202 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: he hadn't been flagged on that, Denzel war was flag 203 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: for defensive holding in the second area on that play. 204 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: And then there was a third and four where you 205 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: jumped off sides and gave another fresh set of downs. 206 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: You gave them essentially half the field they started on 207 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: their own thirteen, So you know you gotta go eighty 208 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: seven yards more than half of those yards were gained 209 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: by penalty. You're not gonna win a game that way. 210 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: You're just not, especially if that stretches over the rest 211 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: of the game, which it did for the most part 212 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: for this team. So I mean, we can harp on 213 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: this all day and it might sound like we're a 214 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: broken record at this point, but it really was the 215 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: biggest point of the game. You commit those penalties, you 216 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to lose. I just look 217 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: at it. You didn't have a great day yesterday on 218 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the football field. You didn't play your best game. I 219 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: understand it's gonna happen sometimes if the timing was terrible 220 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 1: for that, especially with all the hype and all the excitement, 221 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it didn't go your way. Yet as you went to 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, you still had a chance to win 223 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: the football game. You were technically still in the football game. 224 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: I cannot and will not tolerate being out classed on 225 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: the football field. The penalties and and all of that, 226 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: the personal fouls and just the stupid mistakes being made 227 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: on the football field. That that has got to stop, 228 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: and it's got to stop quick. And that that's one 229 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: thing that last night I was most mad about going 230 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: to bed because I'm like, I don't. The team record 231 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: is is twenty one in a game in n eighteen 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: is number two in terms of number of penalties in 233 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: the game. You technically had twenty penalties. Two of them 234 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: got the client yeah, and I didn't. And I left 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: not feeling good about what I saw in the fourth quarter. 236 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Just in general, that to me the kind of I 237 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say the white flag type thing, but when the 238 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: game gets out of hand like that. The last time 239 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I saw the team play like that was Week six 240 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: against the Chargers last year. Like that just didn't That 241 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: didn't rub me the right way. I don't think it. 242 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: The players have can feel good about letting that score 243 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: get his out of hand as it did. You can't 244 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: feel good about are the Chargers are a lot better 245 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: team than the type I mean, I think the Titans 246 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: are are borderline playoff team. They might end up been 247 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs this year with the way that the NFC 248 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: South might chake out, but it's something that Look, we 249 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: spent the last weeks of the regular season and the 250 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: off season and the weeks before this season talking about 251 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: how man, it would have been really nice if there 252 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: could have been a Week eight team last year because 253 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: everything was rolling. Would have been really nice if we 254 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: could have kept playing last year, and they obviously couldn't 255 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: they didn't make the playoffs. Well, this is not how 256 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: you take advantage of your first opportunity to play in 257 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: This is just I mean, and and on the flip 258 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: side of all of that, again, like you said, for 259 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: basically three quarters they were in it despite all of 260 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: the mistakes. It was a bad game, and you look 261 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: at the scoreboard and you're like, all right, well, I 262 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: mean if if they flip on a switch here and 263 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: it looked like they were and then they had the 264 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: wind sucked it right out of the stadium by you 265 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: know that that Derrick Henry screen passed so again, and 266 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: that's I think that's a case of being a little 267 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: over aggressive because how many times do we see the 268 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Titans run a naked boot with Marcus Mariotta booting away 269 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: from where the boots is usually coming the books that 270 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: come to the strong side and they'd roll out and 271 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: he'd find you know, somebody throw it too, or he'd 272 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: run for a few yards or whatever it was. How 273 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: many times they do that and then finally they go 274 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: they run that same play and they make it, they 275 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: run a throwback screen across the field because they know 276 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: that they've done it so many times. The Browns, fresh 277 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: off the touchdown would be ready to go and try 278 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: and get a sack and get the ball back and 279 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: go score again. They hit him right in their weakest 280 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: spot at the perfect time. Do we award game balls 281 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: after a win or after a loss? I don't love 282 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: doing it. You can maybe reward it. You can reward it, 283 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: you can what I will say, despite his maybe his 284 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: right handed jab, Myles Garrett was all over the field, 285 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: even in the fourth quarter of that game yesterday. Yeah, 286 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: I thought that Miles. I thought Miles played. You know, 287 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: he was all over the place and you can't question 288 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: his motor. Yeah. They clearly scheme to take him a 289 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: while out of the game. Uh, And he was taken 290 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: out of the game for a good chunk of it. 291 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: He got a sack when he was also held on 292 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: a play which was it was impressive answing right and 293 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: then he got kind of a The sack kind of 294 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: reminded me of the one that Michael Strahan did that 295 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: one year to break the record, the sliding It was, 296 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, not the biggest sack but you'll take it. 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: But you didn't. You didn't take advantage the mismatch that 298 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: you had enough to win that game. You didn't dominate 299 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: their offensive line the way you should have with them 300 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: missing two starters. I was gonna say, not just one, 301 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: but then ninety minutes before kick you find out that 302 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: you're that that they're gonna be down too, guys, And 303 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: it didn't even look like it for most of the Now, 304 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: I will say that they there were many instances, and 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: this is partially credited to Marcus Mariota and his ability 306 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: to get both evade the rush and get rid of 307 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: football where they were this close, they were about to 308 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: get home, and he had the last second, he'd get 309 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: the ball out, or he'd scramble, or he'd make a 310 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: guy miss. I mean, a lot of that credit goes 311 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to a guy like Myles Garrett, Olivier Vernon was there 312 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times, Larry Ogen Joe got in there 313 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: for a sack on one play, but made the best 314 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: player on the defensive line, even though with Miles Sacks, 315 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was Sheldon Richardson and now he got 316 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: flag for that roughing the pastor which ended up helping 317 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: them set out that touchdown. But there were some plays 318 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: in that game where I was just like, man, this 319 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: guy is a monster. I mean, he he gets penetration, 320 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: he's he hustles, which I guess that was somewhat of 321 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: an issue in his past according to some people, not 322 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: an issue here. Uh. There was a play on third 323 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: down I think it was early in the third midway 324 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: through the third quarter, where Sheldon pressured Mariotta by driving 325 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: his opponent into the chest of Mariotta, and he had 326 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the last second, got the ball out to Dion Lewis. 327 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Dion Lewis makes a guy miss, gets about three yards upfield. 328 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: Guess who He's tackled by Sheldon Richardson from behind, who 329 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: had doubled back about close to ten yards to make 330 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: a tackle of a guy who's much faster than him. 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: His effort was there from start to finish, or pretty 332 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: much from start to finish until the game got out 333 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: of hand. Uh. And you hope that they can carry 334 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: that kind of play over next week in the New 335 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: York especially a place where Richardson's got some history. All right, 336 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna put to bed the Sunday loss to 337 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. We're moving forward to the New York Jets. 338 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Will give a quick little scouting report on them coming 339 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: up here in just a minute. But around the a 340 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: f C. North Uh. An interesting Sunday, gentleman, and it 341 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: starts with the Baltimore Ravens putting a fifty nine spot 342 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: up on You thought the Browns had a good are 343 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: a bad day? Uh, you could have been the Miami 344 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Dolphins who put up ten and supposedly everybody's calling their 345 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: agents asking for a trade out if you talk to 346 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: a certain national media pundits, Yeah, I mean Miami is 347 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Browns, right, They're the ones who pretty 348 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: clearly demonstrate that they're willing to sell off current assets 349 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: in exchange for future assets in an attempt to rebuild quickly. 350 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: But that rebuild is not now, so they're they're going 351 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: to run into issues like that. And I think the 352 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Ravens get an ideal matchup on the road against this 353 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Miami team in Week one and took advantage of it 354 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson and and getting him confident in the 355 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: passing game, and it was made for a route and 356 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: plenty of highlights and a lot of hype. But this 357 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: is again over reaction week one, So you know, we'll 358 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: see how it plays. Talk to me in three weeks, 359 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: well see where where they're at. But a great start 360 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: for them, for sure. It could have been worse too. 361 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean r G three through a touchdown passing this game. 362 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was they they pulled their guys really early, 363 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: and it looked like a college game with the number 364 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: one team versus one of those nonconference ringers that they 365 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: bring in. Uh it's one of those things that we 366 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: can we can empathize with the people who work within 367 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins organization. If there's the best podcast available 368 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: in Miami edition, I'm sure that having a very tough 369 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: time talking about this because they know the best available. 370 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: They know that this is not the only time this 371 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: is gonna happen. And I think that, you know, we 372 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: when we look back at those two thousand and sixteen, 373 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: seventeen years, it's always one thing to have a plan 374 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: on paper and be like we're gonna acquire these assets. 375 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: But then once you live it, that's where it gets 376 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: really tough. The living the weekend week out of losing 377 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL is so painful. Uh So, yeah, I 378 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: feel bad for the dolphense because the difference between us 379 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: and them, you know, very much hopefully, is that we 380 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: we expect to never see what happened Week one again, 381 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: and they, I don't know if they can say the same. 382 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Seattle Cincinnati Bengals with a pretty solid effort on the 383 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: on the road in Seattle, they come up short twenty 384 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: one to twenty. Andy Dalton yards passing two touchdowns, but 385 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: non existent running game. Now Nixon's hurt, so it's spunky offense. 386 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: New offense that they've got John Ross back in his 387 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: comfort zone look type they had it. They I think 388 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot of they are the ultimate nobody believes in 389 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: US team right now because no one believes in them 390 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: at all. Uh, and I think that are not I 391 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: still think they'll finish last in the f C North, 392 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna be some kind of 393 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: bottom dweller. I mean, they still got guys in Their 394 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: season last year was ruined by injuries. I mean they 395 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: were four and one team last year. There's some talented 396 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: players there. They're gonna lose more games than they win, 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna be some team just show up 398 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: and beat Yeah. I think they're they don't get any 399 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: help with a j. Green's injury that he suffered during camp. 400 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: But I think they played maybe above their heads in 401 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: the road in week one. You know, inspired football new 402 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: head coach new Era about a lot of young, hungry guys. 403 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: But they've got some talent on that team, and and 404 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: I think that you'll see them be very competitive in 405 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot of games. They'll probably have a lot of 406 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: close losses. But this is not gonna be some three 407 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: and thirteen or maybe four and twelve team. And it's 408 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna make for a strong a f C North top 409 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: the bottom. Because if that's projected to be your worst 410 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: team in your division, I mean that's a pretty strong division. 411 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good competition for us throughout the year, 412 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: especially in the back half of the schedule. Why can't 413 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: they all be bad? Why can't we just be good? 414 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: Everybody else be bad? Look at the records? Only one 415 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: team one yesterday? Yeah it's one and o and three 416 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: on ones. Interesting, it could have been worse. And what 417 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: do you make shuok? I'll start with you, what do 418 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: you make of Pittsburgh last night? Three to three England? 419 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, in this off season, I thought a lot 420 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: of people may be over and this is not an 421 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: overreaction to Week one, but just my this has been 422 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: my opinion for a while. I think people were over 423 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: projecting the Steelers slightly because when you get used to 424 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: a team that's a competitive team that's expected to wins 425 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: division or at least contend for its division on a 426 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: year in, year out basis, and you have the same 427 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: quarterback installed in the same head coach and some of 428 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: the same pieces elsewhere, you would imagine that, well, yeah, 429 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: then they should probably still flirt with ten eleven wins 430 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: a year, but I'm not sure if they can replace 431 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: what they lost, uh in terms of skill, whether it 432 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: was Antonio Brown and obviously they didn't have Levian Bell 433 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: last year and didn't really hurt them that much, but 434 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: they also got great production from guys like James Conner 435 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and even Jalen Samuel's afterward because it started with their 436 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: offensive line, which most of those guys are still intact. 437 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: But there are just I think some losses across the board, 438 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: and and still some weaknesses in their defensive secondary that 439 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: they have not been able to weather and have have 440 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: been problems for them for a couple of years now, 441 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna bite them more than they 442 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: realize because they don't have that same ability to then 443 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: match that team offensively. Yeah, Juju Smith Schuster is a 444 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: really good receiver with a lot of potential, but he's 445 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: not A. He's not Antonio Brown. B. He's not lined 446 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: up across Antonio Brown. So I think that their offensive 447 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: has taken a step back. I mean, look, they put 448 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: three points on the Patriots last night and gave up 449 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: thirty three. I mean, and it's not, like I said, 450 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: it's not an overreaction, but I just think that they're 451 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: not going to be as good as people anticipate. This 452 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: is a tough test in week one. I don't think 453 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: it's exactly the what we should expect from them for 454 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: the year. But I also don't think we should expect 455 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: them to win eleven twelve games like some people are 456 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: tricky game next week for them. They placed the Seahawks. 457 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a tough one at home the 458 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: next week. And I just think, my this is the 459 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: blanket easiest takeaway they missed Antonio Brown. I mean that 460 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: that that guy opened up the offense. And I I've 461 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: been telling anyone that listens. Ben Roethlisberger was a really 462 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: good quarterback for Antonio Brown got there. He wasn't this 463 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: fantasy football superstar until Antonio Brown got there. They won 464 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: games grinding him out running the ball. He'd throve for 465 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: about tunre yards, he'd run for a little bit, and 466 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: then Antonio Brown got there and they took that offense 467 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: to another level. He's thrown for three and fifty yards 468 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: plus a game, and I just I think that that 469 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: is a guy that helped them out so much. Open 470 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: everything up, and you can take away Levy on Bell 471 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and still have the success, but taking away two of 472 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: those guys is asking a lot. And I just we'll 473 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: see if this plays out. I think Juju is really good, 474 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I like much else at 475 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: that wide receiver position. And I would say this is 476 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: the tape out on Connor. I mean, twenty one yards 477 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: rushing last night. And I know that they were down 478 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and they had to make up a lot of ground 479 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: through the year, but I don't see. The Patriots defense 480 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: is really good, yeah, a lot better maybe than the 481 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: rest of us all thought. We know that they're good, 482 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: but they have that extra year that's That's the thing 483 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: about the New England system too, is they are good 484 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: at plugging and playing. They let a guy go get 485 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: big money elsewhere not play as well as he did 486 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: in New England because it's more system based than anything. 487 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: And and usually those types of of franchises, organizations and 488 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: programs that are established tend to win games earlier in 489 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, let's think about how they started 490 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: the season last year. Is the shootout lost to the Chiefs, 491 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs ended up being the second best team 492 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: in the FC that year. I don't think the Steeler 493 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be the second best team in the FC 494 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: this year. Taking a look at next week's opponent, then 495 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: let's look around the a f C North. We get 496 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: the New York Football Jets next Monday night, and we 497 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: will preview that game later on this week. But you 498 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: take a look at their effort, uh, Buffalo turns the 499 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: ball over four times for three quarters. Doesn't even look 500 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: like they deserve to be on an NFL field. And 501 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: then they show up and they end up beating the 502 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Jets seventeen to sixteen. Le beyond bell a pedestrian type effort. 503 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: After all the time he missed last year, and uh, 504 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: that's a Jets team that's probably going back to the 505 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: drawing board today. A lot may be like we are 506 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. I mean, they blew their lead. 507 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: We you know, we struggled all day yesterday, but they 508 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: blew a sixteen and nothing lead in the fourth quarter. 509 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I think the Bills performances a lot like how the 510 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: Browns performance could have been had they continued in the 511 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: momentum that they were putting together at the end of 512 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: the third quarter. So this game is weird. This this 513 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: lead is weird because you do have four quarters to play, 514 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: and oftentimes you can have something We've seen this here 515 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot in the last few years. You can have 516 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: something going very well for maybe two quarters, two and 517 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: a half quarters, and then it all falls apart and 518 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: you lose by multiple scores or you lose by a point. 519 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: In that situation, but you have to give credit that 520 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: nobody's given anybody Buffalo's defense. They haven't given Buffalo's defense 521 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: any credit in the last probably year and a half. 522 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: They've done a really good job of assembling a no 523 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: name but very strong defense. Starts with guys like linebacker 524 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Matt Mulano, it extends outward. Their secondary solid and their 525 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: defensive line I think is better than people realize as well, 526 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and that was the main reason why they were able 527 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: to come back because it kept them in the game. 528 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: The Jets only scored offense only scored eight points, so 529 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: they their offense didn't do much of anything that entire game. 530 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: A really uninspiring last chance drive. They get the ball 531 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: two minutes left in the game and uh, they get 532 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: they needed four downs to get the first ten yards. 533 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: They had to go for it them fourth and one 534 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: and have Levmbell run for exactly one yard and then 535 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: four straight in completions to end the game. I mean, 536 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: that's just that usually get something better than that on 537 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: your last drive, and they just they didn't have it offensively. 538 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where Greg was familiar 539 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: with it. Last year his defense finished plus three in 540 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: turnovers and you lose the game. That was that was 541 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: the theme of the Browns a lot that being last year, 542 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: and those are numbers where you just shouldn't lose the game, 543 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: and they still found a way to lose. This a 544 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: year after Sam Donald had led one of the most 545 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: thrilling comebacks of his young career for the Jets in Buffalo. 546 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Couldn't do the same thing against them this time around. 547 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: It will be interesting desperation game week too. Yeah, and 548 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: we're not just talking for the Browns, but for the 549 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Jets as well. So I think if there's one thing 550 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: that UH fans may have learned over the last forty 551 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: eight hours, UH do not take anybody for granted, especially 552 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: an opponent that you think you might be better than 553 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: on paper. That might be the case. I got to 554 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: see how this one plays out, and the Browns have 555 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of work to do here 556 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: between now and next Monday. All Right, we'll wrap things up. 557 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: We're back with you on Thursday late day to preview 558 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: UH this one as the Browns will get ready to 559 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: take on the New York Jets on Monday Night Football. 560 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: For Andre Ribble for Nick Shook, I'm Jason Gibbs. Make 561 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: sure you log on and subscribe to the best podcast 562 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: available wherever you get your podcasts. For the two gentlemen 563 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: I just mentioned, Jackson Gibbs, this has been the best 564 00:25:49,680 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: podcast available over wh