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Speaker 1: Special gift to all of you, folks. A couple of
Speaker 1: very interesting stories have been bubbling around, but first I
Speaker 1: want to take on a Twitter hater that came at
Speaker 1: me this week. I posted an article that is incredibly important,
Speaker 1: one which I will get into today. Came out in
Speaker 1: CNN that the director of a key federal vaccine agency
Speaker 1: says that his departure from that agency and being moved
Speaker 1: to a different place is a part of retaliation. And
Speaker 1: I tweeted, right, and let me let me tell you
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then I'll tell you a bit
Speaker 1: about the tweet. So this is from the article, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to read it verbatim because I want you
Speaker 1: to really wrap your mind around all of the other
Speaker 1: things that are taking place that are completely fucking our
Speaker 1: ability to quote unquote reopen and to recover right in
Speaker 1: a real way. And it is because of Trump's ego,
Speaker 1: because of his greed, and because of his lies right
Speaker 1: that we are in this predicament where we America is
Speaker 1: inching towards one million coronavirus cases right. It is right
Speaker 1: now at eight hundred a bit over eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: That is in many places, about eight times more, eight
Speaker 1: times more cases than any other nation. We know that
Speaker 1: New York where I am, is the epicenter, and we
Speaker 1: know this because the governor here is doing the most testing.
Speaker 1: What we are learning from scientists if you pay attention
Speaker 1: to them, from listening to the CDC and others that
Speaker 1: are saying that in order for us to reopen successfully
Speaker 1: without there being a second wave that is worse, imagine
Speaker 1: than the first wave of the coronavirus, we need to
Speaker 1: be able to ramp up testing to test at least
Speaker 1: twenty million people a day. Do you know how many
Speaker 1: people We have tested? Four million, and that is not
Speaker 1: four million. We have issued four million tests. That is
Speaker 1: not necessarily on four million different people and that has
Speaker 1: happened over the course of a month, more than a month.
Speaker 1: So this is what the director of well, former director
Speaker 1: of a biomedical Advanced Research and Development authority which I'd
Speaker 1: never heard of until this article. Because what we are
Speaker 1: learning now through this crisis is how many agencies we
Speaker 1: don't actually know about, but that are working on behalf
Speaker 1: of the American people and trying to keep us safe.
Speaker 1: So let me read you this. The director of the
Speaker 1: office involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine says he was
Speaker 1: abruptly dismissed from his post in part because he resisted
Speaker 1: efforts to widen the availability of coronavirus treatments pushed by
Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. Now, mind you, Trump not a fucking doctor, right,
Speaker 1: He's actually a quack and pushing either conspiracy theories or
Speaker 1: medicate drugs and medication that are developed by his donors.
Speaker 1: So why would you push that? Oh so that the
Speaker 1: federal government then pays his cronies, right and they get
Speaker 1: a big fact contract. Not because what he's pushing actually
Speaker 1: fucking works. Let me go on. Doctor Rick Bright had
Speaker 1: led BARDA, the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen until Tuesday, when he was reassigned to a
Speaker 1: narrower position. He also announced that he will file a
Speaker 1: whistleblower complaint the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General.
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. I believe this transfer was in
Speaker 1: response to my insistence that the government invests the billions
Speaker 1: of dollars allocated by Congress to address the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines,
Speaker 1: and other technologies that lack scientific merit. Bright said in
Speaker 1: a lengthy statement issued Wednesday. I am speaking out because
Speaker 1: to combat this deadly virus, science, not politics or chronyism,
Speaker 1: has to lead the way. So we are in the
Speaker 1: midst of a global pandemic. And mind you that before
Speaker 1: doctor Rick Bright was assigned came back into this position
Speaker 1: as the director in twenty sixteen, he had the role
Speaker 1: back in twenty ten, so he had been doing this
Speaker 1: work right, this position, leading biomedical advanced research, so that
Speaker 1: when a situation like we're currently in comes around, there
Speaker 1: are people that are dedicated to finding to understanding the
Speaker 1: problem and figuring out a solution for it. But because
Speaker 1: doctor Rick Bright decided not to push the malaria medication
Speaker 1: that the President of the United States is pushing because
Speaker 1: he's not pushing the bullshit that is coming out of
Speaker 1: this administration, right and this rush to reopen. He was
Speaker 1: reassigned because if you do not lift up Trump's lies,
Speaker 1: if you do not support his quack theories, you lose
Speaker 1: your job. We have seen this play out time and
Speaker 1: time and time again. And now we're reassigning fucking doctors
Speaker 1: who want to pay attention and urge us to pay
Speaker 1: attention to science and data. We're reassigning them because truth
Speaker 1: cannot exist at the same time in the Trump administration
Speaker 1: as profit does. Right. So essentially, what the President of
Speaker 1: the United States and everyone around him, even doctor Fauci,
Speaker 1: who consistently walks back statements that he said, he said
Speaker 1: not but a few weeks ago, if we had started earlier,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be in such a bad situation. But he
Speaker 1: had to walk that back. Why Because then all eyes
Speaker 1: go on to the Trump administration and we start to
Speaker 1: ask questions of them, like why didn't you do anything
Speaker 1: with the two and three months head start that you
Speaker 1: were given, Why didn't you put together any plans, Why
Speaker 1: didn't you bolster the income, the Resources two agencies like BARTA,
Speaker 1: two HHS two FEMA. You knew this was coming, right,
Speaker 1: Why were there still governors begging for ventilators? Why do
Speaker 1: we have right governors negotiating trade deals with foreign entities
Speaker 1: instead of the federal government. Right, So when we have
Speaker 1: these doctors who want to tell the American people the
Speaker 1: truth and be transparent about it, Yes, this is uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: Yes it fucking sucks. Right, twenty two million people are
Speaker 1: out of work and that number, that number will continue
Speaker 1: to grow. So we cannot just shrug off the fact
Speaker 1: that this doctor was essentially fired. Now they can tell
Speaker 1: you that he was transitioned, that he's moved to a
Speaker 1: different place, but he will look at you and say, no,
Speaker 1: this is political retaliation. He is a symbol. Now, So
Speaker 1: what other doctors are going to decide to go the
Speaker 1: route of the doctor Ozes of the world right and saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can send people back. We'll send
Speaker 1: kids back to school. Right, Only two or three million
Speaker 1: of them will die. I mean that's worth it, right,
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, just two or three million
Speaker 1: dead kids. That is seventy six million that are in
Speaker 1: the public school system who the fuck cares right. We
Speaker 1: need more people that are willing to go along with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's fucking charade and have people killed. And so
Speaker 1: here's what I did. Let me go back to Twitter now,
Speaker 1: So I post this article, the CNN one, and I
Speaker 1: say so, basically, we are fucked right. Trump is sidelining
Speaker 1: the director because he doesn't want to promote his quack
Speaker 1: theories and instead wants to follow science in a party
Speaker 1: that doesn't believe in science, that doesn't believe in data,
Speaker 1: you know, they go with their gut. I wonder what
Speaker 1: your gut tells you when it's filled with COVID. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, we should ask somebody. But what a
Speaker 1: commenter said to me was, you know, the twenty four
Speaker 1: seven anti Trump stance hasn't worked and won't work. Try
Speaker 1: a more reasonable approach that goes after doing by both parties.
Speaker 1: This will help to restore your damaged credibility. The Danielle
Speaker 1: that attacked Pelosi last year was your best form. Don't
Speaker 1: do what AOC did. And so here's my response to
Speaker 1: that level of stupidity and bullshit, which is this. First
Speaker 1: of all, I did not attack Nancy Pelosi. I simply
Speaker 1: said that She needed to get her shit together right,
Speaker 1: She needed to do something about impeachment instead of praying
Speaker 1: for the president as she was several months ago, a
Speaker 1: year ago. Right. We needed Nancy Pelosi to be moving right,
Speaker 1: and she finally did. When the Democrats do what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, I have no qualms with them. When
Speaker 1: they don't, and I see an opportunity for a deep
Speaker 1: and grave improvement, then I fucking announced it. There is
Speaker 1: both sides to what is the COVID pandemic and the
Speaker 1: COVID American crisis. There's no both sides. There is one
Speaker 1: party that is in charge of this situation, and that
Speaker 1: is the Republican party. That is the Trump administration, and
Speaker 1: their negligence and their fucking lives have cost so far
Speaker 1: over forty thousand lives. So no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: play the both sides you mean? And this was my response.
Speaker 1: I said, you know what exactly do you think that
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing wrong right now? Is it trying to
Speaker 1: get money to suffering small businesses instead of Trump's donors.
Speaker 1: Is it trying to include measures for voting in the stimulus?
Speaker 1: Is it trying to make sure that oh, I don't
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Trump doesn't want to fund the US
Speaker 1: Postal Service, right, doesn't want to fund that at all,
Speaker 1: which is struggling during this time. So trying to include
Speaker 1: that is it trying to protect the most vulnerable among us, Right,
Speaker 1: But they keep having to make compromises with a party
Speaker 1: that wants to kill a large part of the population
Speaker 1: because opening up the fucking economy is more important, right,
Speaker 1: Making sure that CEOs and shareholders continue to make money
Speaker 1: on the backs of sick, brown and black people is
Speaker 1: more important. So there isn't both sides. So I'm not
Speaker 1: going to play that fucking game, because that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's the game that fucking got us into the situation
Speaker 1: with Trump in the first place. Because if the media
Speaker 1: and people didn't see him as the golden goose for
Speaker 1: their fucking ratings and called him a racist and a
Speaker 1: misogynist and didn't cover his bullshit, he wouldn't have a
Speaker 1: said did right if we didn't, then after his assent
Speaker 1: and after he becomes president, have you know Republicans and
Speaker 1: Democrats on television talking as if Democrats are just as
Speaker 1: bad as Republicans. When you have one party that is
Speaker 1: banning religions from entering the country that is now using
Speaker 1: currently using the coronavirus as a way to halt immigration.
Speaker 1: News flash, it's not the fucking immigrants that are causing
Speaker 1: the spread of this virus. It's the fucking idiots in
Speaker 1: maga hats who are breaking social distancing laws who don't
Speaker 1: believe in the virus because that motherfucker told them that
Speaker 1: it was a hoax and that's what they believe. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play the both sides game because it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: There is a party that has now become the arbiters
Speaker 1: of death, and there is a party that is trying
Speaker 1: to stop people from dying. That's the called hard truth.
Speaker 1: That's the reality of where we are and where we've gotten.
Speaker 1: How did we get here, Well, that's a story for
Speaker 1: another day. But put it this way that when you
Speaker 1: make an enemy of the media and you tell people
Speaker 1: not to trust them, that everything that they put out
Speaker 1: is fake news, right, that science doesn't matter, that climate
Speaker 1: change isn't real, that all of the shit is all
Speaker 1: in our heads, then in the midst of crisis, they're
Speaker 1: now questioning whether or not they should believe what they're
Speaker 1: being told by the media. Because you've spent three and
Speaker 1: a half years telling them not to believe. That's how
Speaker 1: this virus is spreading because of fucking stupidity. So I
Speaker 1: will not pretend that there are two sides, because there aren't.
Speaker 1: I will not pretend that the Republican Party is anything
Speaker 1: but a bunch of greedy, evil, soulless people. I won't
Speaker 1: pretend because I believe in Maya Angelo's adage. I believe
Speaker 1: that when people show you who they are, you should
Speaker 1: believe them. There is nothing that this party has shown
Speaker 1: us over the past decade of existence. If you were
Speaker 1: an alien and you just happen to land on Earth
Speaker 1: ten years ago, you would know everything you needed to
Speaker 1: know about the Republican Party and what it has morphed into.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Bardella on the show talking about
Speaker 1: all of these Republicans, how when he was working for
Speaker 1: working with his former boss darryl Issa, all of this
Speaker 1: government oversight because you know, the executive branch can't have
Speaker 1: overreach and states have rights and Obama is a lawless
Speaker 1: Obama didn't do not even like, there is no fucking comparison.
Speaker 1: I can't even give you the mathematical percentage of what
Speaker 1: he could have done or what they perceived to have done,
Speaker 1: because it's just nonsensical. You have a president that is
Speaker 1: asked for foreign interference. You have a president that did
Speaker 1: not show the American people his taxes. You have a
Speaker 1: president that hired his son and his son in law
Speaker 1: and his daughter to be his advisers. Nepotism. They are
Speaker 1: all getting rich off of the presidency breaking up the
Speaker 1: Amaluman's clause. They lied about Russian interference in the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen election. Now we find out through a bipartisan Republican
Speaker 1: led Senate Senate Intel Committee report. Oh yes, there was
Speaker 1: in fact Russian interference. We fucking know that, right, But
Speaker 1: you have William Barr that was willing to lie about
Speaker 1: the mull the findings of the Mullah report. You had
Speaker 1: you know, mc mulvaney screaming that quid pro quo. We
Speaker 1: do it all the time. Since fucking when where are
Speaker 1: all those aggrieved and outraged Republicans at Obama's overstepping, at
Speaker 1: Trump's declaration of total and complete authority. The reason why
Speaker 1: America was founded was because of people running from the monarchy, right,
Speaker 1: because they wanted to the people to govern. Right, We
Speaker 1: the people, that's what this is supposed to be about.
Speaker 1: That's what this project was supposed to be about. But
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the Republicans have anointed have they've anointed him.
Speaker 1: All he's missing is the crown inceptor. So when you
Speaker 1: hear people saying to you like that there are two
Speaker 1: sides to this, I guess because there is a right
Speaker 1: side and a wrong one. That's it. There's nothing up
Speaker 1: to debate here. You see how the country is getting
Speaker 1: ready to fucking explode. I guarantee you. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: that by the time we get to a month from now,
Speaker 1: that the coronavirus cases in these southern states that have
Speaker 1: decided to follow Trump and open up because you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they're gonna do because liberty, you
Speaker 1: will see an explosion. Because the only thing that we
Speaker 1: can do to stop this virus until there is a
Speaker 1: vaccine that has been tested, and that unless we have
Speaker 1: every CVS, Duwayne Reed grocery store, pharmacy able to provide
Speaker 1: tests for anybody whenever they want them, only thing that
Speaker 1: we have to use against this virus is social distancing,
Speaker 1: is staying in the fucking side on lockdown and staying
Speaker 1: six feet apart. That is what has been the key
Speaker 1: to the beginning of the flattening of the curve here
Speaker 1: in New York. That is it. So you have now
Speaker 1: in these southern areas led by Republicans, gonna open everything
Speaker 1: back up because the economy is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And when their health systems collapse, right, and people start
Speaker 1: dying in the street, maybe they'll reconsider, but they won't
Speaker 1: have anybody to blame but themselves. You know. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: hoping that the people that will vote again, you know,
Speaker 1: that would vote against them, will all die, you know,
Speaker 1: so that they can remain in power and everyone's memory
Speaker 1: won't be that long as soon as people start having
Speaker 1: sick kids, sick teachers, right, because they're gonna open everything
Speaker 1: back up. So the kids in Oklahoma are going back
Speaker 1: to school, the kids in Georgia are going back to school,
Speaker 1: going to the parks, going to the hair dress and
Speaker 1: going to the salons, just gonna pretend that none of
Speaker 1: this ever happened. And if you get sick, you get sick,
Speaker 1: and if you die, you die. We're gonna see an explosion.
Speaker 1: And I want to know what the protesters are going
Speaker 1: to do them? Where are they going to be then,
Speaker 1: because they sure as hell shouldn't be in anybody's hospital bed.
Speaker 1: That's for damn sure. You know, I wish, I wish
Speaker 1: that we would take down the names of all of
Speaker 1: the people that decided to protest, and that when any
Speaker 1: of those names showed up at a hospital seeking help
Speaker 1: because they think that they have the symptoms or they
Speaker 1: think that they've caught the virus, that they're sent home.
Speaker 1: Because there are people that are actually doing right and
Speaker 1: actually adhering to the rules and falling ill. But you're
Speaker 1: a buck in the system, So buck the healthcare system too,
Speaker 1: and stay the fucking home. There is no two sides
Speaker 1: to what is happening right now. We have a wayward, criminal,
Speaker 1: lawless party that has very little care for people's lives.
Speaker 1: And I truly believe, and you know, I've had my
Speaker 1: own dinner table arguments. I truly believe that if this
Speaker 1: virus was killing white people at the raid in which
Speaker 1: it is killing black and Latin X people, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: even be having this conversation. But just trust those people
Speaker 1: are being killed first because they live in densely populated
Speaker 1: areas in cities that Donald Trump doesn't feel like he
Speaker 1: needs for reelection. But this virus doesn't know borders and boundaries.
Speaker 1: It doesn't know inner city from suburb. It will get
Speaker 1: to you in Oklahoma, it will get to you in
Speaker 1: your rural areas of Tennessee and Georgia. It will come
Speaker 1: to you. Just wait. And so when you're too sick
Speaker 1: to go to work, then what are you going to do? Hm,
Speaker 1: when all the healthcare systems are now overrun, right, then
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Because the federal government
Speaker 1: ain't doing shit for you except stoking fear and trying
Speaker 1: to create a second World War by telling people that
Speaker 1: their guns are going to be confiscated, which no one
Speaker 1: has mentioned except for Donald Trump. I'm just so tired
Speaker 1: of the bullshit. I'm tired of the lies and I
Speaker 1: and it's because people are dying. People are dying, and
Speaker 1: we've never seen this kind of death, this time, this
Speaker 1: kind of distrus action. And so you would think, you know,
Speaker 1: that's sheltering in place, right if you are lucky to
Speaker 1: do so, if you are fortunate to still have a
Speaker 1: roof over your head right now, that's not something to protest,
Speaker 1: that's something to be grateful for. I want things to
Speaker 1: open up like everybody else does right. I want to
Speaker 1: see my friends, I want to go out and record
Speaker 1: in an actual studio. I want to go and reclaim
Speaker 1: my life. But until it's safe, we're better off doing
Speaker 1: what we're doing because we know that it's working and
Speaker 1: giving the researchers and the doctors and the nurses and
Speaker 1: the grocery score clerks and everybody that is working on
Speaker 1: our behalf a fucking break by not being a strain
Speaker 1: on the system. You know, if I were the people
Speaker 1: of Georgia, if I were those businesses, I wouldn't reopen.
Speaker 1: I would stay closed. I would stay safe, because if
Speaker 1: your leaders are not going to do that for you,
Speaker 1: then you need to do it for yourself. You know,
Speaker 1: every day that I wake up here in New York,
Speaker 1: I am thankful, and people think that that's crazy, except
Speaker 1: for new other New Yorkers. I am thankful to have
Speaker 1: competent leadership at all levels. I'm thankful for people that
Speaker 1: I can trust to do the right thing because they
Speaker 1: care more about people's lives. I believe it when I
Speaker 1: see Governor Cuomo and saying, yes are the numbers of
Speaker 1: deaths to dropping? Yes, but still over four hundred people
Speaker 1: died in New York yesterday from COVID nineteen over four hundred.
Speaker 1: That is too fucking many, because those are real people
Speaker 1: that are dying. They're not just numbers. So I want
Speaker 1: leadership that is compassionate, that is thoughtful, and that is
Speaker 1: relying on science and facts and the truth. And I
Speaker 1: know that when New York begins to reopen at some point,
Speaker 1: I know that he will have done the right work,
Speaker 1: the necessary work to make sure that we are safe.
Speaker 1: And I can't say that about anybody else who is
Speaker 1: in a Democrat and leading a state right now, and
Speaker 1: that should scare the shit out of everyone. You know,
Speaker 1: a majority the polls come out, a majority of people
Speaker 1: believe that we should stay closed, like fifty eight percent
Speaker 1: of Americans. So this little life that the media is
Speaker 1: given into these protesters, you know, they really shouldn't because
Speaker 1: it just perpetuates just stupidity, and it gives them voice
Speaker 1: and it gives them life, and right now they don't
Speaker 1: deserve either. I am really excited to welcome to Woke
Speaker 1: f Daily, both April Grayson, who is the statewide coordinator
Speaker 1: for the Young Women's Freedom Center, and add Non Khan,
Speaker 1: who is the executive director of Restore Justice. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to have the both of you on joining today because
Speaker 1: I feel like the conversation that is being missed around
Speaker 1: the coronavirus is the discussion of another vulnerable population, which
Speaker 1: is those folks that are incarcerated. And you know, much
Speaker 1: in the same way that there have been outbreaks per
Speaker 1: se at nursing homes, the same thing is happening in
Speaker 1: our prison system, and it's a population of people, unlike
Speaker 1: nursing homes, that clearly we don't really care a lot about.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk to the both of you
Speaker 1: about one You both have been formally incarcerated during times
Speaker 1: of other outbreaks, whether it be H one N one
Speaker 1: stars or lesionnaires, disease or other things. Can you speak
Speaker 1: to us about the experience of what it is like
Speaker 1: to be in lockdown in the midst of a pandemic
Speaker 1: and how you're and how you're treated and what precautions,
Speaker 1: if any, are taken to care for prisoners. So to
Speaker 1: those folks that are incarcerated and none, I'll start with you,
Speaker 1: just tell us a bit about your experience and your
Speaker 1: understanding of what's happening right now. Yeah, my experience with
Speaker 1: quarantines and viruses that attack the prison system have been
Speaker 1: actually very terrible. Our prison system is not set up
Speaker 1: to defend or defeat any type of virus that comes
Speaker 1: in there. Prisons are traditionally, I mean historically built with
Speaker 1: punishment in mind, like the architecture of it, and so
Speaker 1: they're not built with hospitals or hospitality in mind. So
Speaker 1: when the virus is hit, in my experience, I remember
Speaker 1: it was like an onslaught. There's no escaping it. And
Speaker 1: you couple that with mass incarceration, meaning volume of people
Speaker 1: that are inside these facilities, it's very, very difficult to
Speaker 1: escape it. Right now, in COVID nineteen, one of the
Speaker 1: solutions or suggestions that we're given by doctor Fauci, for example,
Speaker 1: is stay you know, six feet apart. That's one example. Well,
Speaker 1: I lived in the building with nine hundred people on
Speaker 1: the tier or the floor that I lived on was
Speaker 1: with one hundred people, and that tier was only three
Speaker 1: feet wide. And we're sharing. We're sharing, yeah, and we're
Speaker 1: sharing not just that tier with one hundred incarcerated people,
Speaker 1: but with medical staff that come by for to give pills,
Speaker 1: with correction officers who escort them. Correction officers who have
Speaker 1: to pass out food in mail. So we're sharing that
Speaker 1: tier with more than just incarcerated people. Okay, April, what
Speaker 1: was your what was your experience like as well? Because
Speaker 1: I mean again it sounds you know these What we
Speaker 1: are learning really is that social distancing is a privilege,
Speaker 1: right if you are in an environment where there is
Speaker 1: a lot of space and you are able to do
Speaker 1: that and you're able to be the six feet apart.
Speaker 1: We're learning now that that is a privilege, that it
Speaker 1: is not something that it can be done in densely
Speaker 1: populated places. It cannot be done in prisons. What was
Speaker 1: your experience like? My experience is similar to Adnan's. We
Speaker 1: are two hundred and fifty six to a unit, where
Speaker 1: eight to a cell, sixty four to a hallway, and
Speaker 1: so we to get six feet and a sale, like
Speaker 1: one person would have to be at one end of
Speaker 1: the sale and the other person would have to be
Speaker 1: at the door trying to leave it out the cell.
Speaker 1: And so we would never have been able to obtain
Speaker 1: that because your bunky lives directly above you. But I
Speaker 1: just really recall looking out of a window one day
Speaker 1: and watching the medical staff come in with a face
Speaker 1: mask on. So I personally am not a fan of
Speaker 1: the news because I believe it's a tool to cause
Speaker 1: fear within the people. So I didn't really watch the news.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really aware of what was going on. But
Speaker 1: I just remember watching this staff with this mask on,
Speaker 1: and my thought was, why does she need a mask?
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's only susceptible or vulnerable if she
Speaker 1: brings it to me. But they have this you could
Speaker 1: feel like this energy of like we were the contaminated ones.
Speaker 1: So like even right now in the institution, like there's
Speaker 1: this energy of they're the ones that are contaminated and
Speaker 1: they're the ones that they need, the officers need to
Speaker 1: be fearful of. But that's not the case. This is
Speaker 1: a very sterile population. We are a very sterile population.
Speaker 1: And so just knowing that if a person doesn't have humanity,
Speaker 1: meaning the officer doesn't have humanity, if the medical staff
Speaker 1: doesn't have humanity, they're treating me as if I'm the problem. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Can I jump in for a second, Yeah please, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to comment on quote unquote social distancing.
Speaker 1: I want to I just want to clarify to our
Speaker 1: viewers or sorry, our listeners that social distancing is possible
Speaker 1: in prison. As a matter of fact, I was sentenced
Speaker 1: to social distance. Um, physical distancing is completely impossible, right right,
Speaker 1: right right? And that is a that is a point
Speaker 1: of clarification. You know. One of the things that has
Speaker 1: been going around on the news as well is the
Speaker 1: fact that, uh, those folks that are currently incarcerated are
Speaker 1: being forced right used as manual labor to make hand
Speaker 1: sanitizer that they're not able to use because it has
Speaker 1: alcohol in it and having alcohol is against the rules.
Speaker 1: How does that even? How does that work? And and
Speaker 1: and and being paid? I think I heard in one
Speaker 1: report that it was like sixteen cents a day to
Speaker 1: be making gallons and gallons of hand sanitizer. What are
Speaker 1: your guys's thoughts on that? Can I talk about this one?
Speaker 1: And it's not so I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: face mask also prison and the woman's prison is CIW
Speaker 1: the PIA workers were making and PIA is like the
Speaker 1: state worker who makes who manufactures massive goods for different
Speaker 1: prisons and different entities, and they get paid menial amounts
Speaker 1: of money. And so they were making face masks that
Speaker 1: they couldn't even utilize. So let's not even talk about
Speaker 1: the thing with the alcohol because of the alcohol content.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why let's talk about the thing that
Speaker 1: they could have that they were getting immediately, because they
Speaker 1: had to give it out to other people to make
Speaker 1: sure others had it before they themselves could get this
Speaker 1: face mask. And so now throughout these weeks, the face
Speaker 1: masks are now being distributed to the population, but it
Speaker 1: took two and three weeks for the people who are
Speaker 1: actually making them to get them. So we could talk
Speaker 1: about hand sanitizer, which, oh it has alcohol, but let's
Speaker 1: talk about the face mask which doesn't. What was your
Speaker 1: reasoning for not giving them the maker of the face
Speaker 1: mask who was making it at slave wages and cannot quote.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Daniel. April and I had the
Speaker 1: discussion so many times, and I would love, if you
Speaker 1: don't mind, April, talk about the immediately post thirteenth Amendment
Speaker 1: and how people were incarcerated to be laborers, to be workers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is one of my favorite topics, of course,
Speaker 1: is m Amendment thirteen and when they abolished slavery. So
Speaker 1: you abolished slavery with the clause of unless a person
Speaker 1: commits a crime, or if a person commits a crime.
Speaker 1: But we're still in the dawn of criminalization of black
Speaker 1: people because you still wanted to have slave labor. Like
Speaker 1: the war wasn't fought over industries. It was really fought
Speaker 1: over words, over industries with over people. So that could
Speaker 1: go far. But so I'm gonna go too far. But
Speaker 1: once they abolished slavery, they thus started. You couldn't drink
Speaker 1: out of a water fountain, You're going to jail. If
Speaker 1: you didn't drop your head when they called you boy,
Speaker 1: you were going to jail. If they if they said
Speaker 1: that you whistled at a white woman, which we know
Speaker 1: you weren't, you would want to jail any they had
Speaker 1: any reason to arrest. Let's start of mass incarceration. So
Speaker 1: they've been trying to get free labor since the eighteen
Speaker 1: hundreds to seventeen hundreds to sixteen hundreds. This is the
Speaker 1: beginning of colonization. And they will get straight, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: they will get They will get sent straight back to
Speaker 1: the plantations. And many would go right back to the
Speaker 1: plantations that as now as an incarcerated person that they
Speaker 1: were quote unquote freed from um. So you fast forward
Speaker 1: one hundred some years later that using incarcerated people as
Speaker 1: workers and paying them pennies or nothing in many facilities, Um,
Speaker 1: it just goes back to their industry, the complex of
Speaker 1: an industry and businesses. And if we're talking about public safety,
Speaker 1: I believe rehabilitation achieves public safety. So when you release,
Speaker 1: there's six hundred thousand people come out every year out
Speaker 1: of our prisons nationally, six hundred thousand. And I worked.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I didn't work for hand
Speaker 1: sanitizer anything I was. I just got I was released
Speaker 1: last year. But an example of one of my jobs
Speaker 1: was I worked in the kitchen. I cleaned almost four
Speaker 1: thousand trays every single day for eight hours, and I
Speaker 1: was paid eight cents an hour. And I remember I
Speaker 1: was in a facility where I was given and where
Speaker 1: first first time in my in cars ration twelve years later,
Speaker 1: I was given an opportunity to join self help groups
Speaker 1: and programs and which I immediately got into. But one
Speaker 1: day I come back to my cell and April you
Speaker 1: know that I had a work assignment card on my
Speaker 1: top bunk on my bunk and I knew immediately what
Speaker 1: it was. I looked at him like, oh, they just
Speaker 1: assigned me to a job, which meant my job, which
Speaker 1: is eight cents an hour, is my priority, not my rehabilitation.
Speaker 1: So I had to leave my classes that I was
Speaker 1: taking for my childhood development, my childhood trauma, whatever it
Speaker 1: was that I was taking, I had to leave those
Speaker 1: because priority in prison is work. Wow, I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you you know? It seems so difficult, like an
Speaker 1: uphill battle to advocate for a population that isn't that
Speaker 1: isn't being that isn't looked at as rehabilitating, rehabilitating, right
Speaker 1: like you, we say, we say that we want folks
Speaker 1: to be rehabilitated, we want you to re enter society
Speaker 1: and all of these things, but then we don't treat
Speaker 1: you like human beings while you're actually supposed to be
Speaker 1: going through this rehabilitation process. So how do you how
Speaker 1: do you set up your ability to advocate for a
Speaker 1: population that is that is shrugged off. So this is
Speaker 1: a tough one because yes or just yesterday, I was
Speaker 1: reading comments on one of the posts that represent Justice
Speaker 1: has posted and looking at these comments that these people
Speaker 1: are answering, like it's beyond me, the the lack of
Speaker 1: humanity for people. It is beyond me. How the healthy
Speaker 1: people ask people? Yeah, and so it's it's it's so
Speaker 1: if you don't look like saying as the news, if
Speaker 1: you don't watch it, you don't really pay attention to it,
Speaker 1: and you can just keep going on because like, my
Speaker 1: fight is for the almost eight thousand women that are
Speaker 1: incarcerated in California, and I'm going to continue to fight.
Speaker 1: My fight is for anybody incarcerated. But of course my
Speaker 1: population I'm going to continue to fight for is then
Speaker 1: the woman's population, because I feel like we are under
Speaker 1: service population. And so I just for me. I know
Speaker 1: what I came out here to do, and I know
Speaker 1: what I was lacking when I was incarcerated, And so
Speaker 1: if not me, then who else? Like if not I'm none,
Speaker 1: then who else? Like who else can speak to a
Speaker 1: situation with as much insight as us, with the passion,
Speaker 1: with the determination, and know like when you think about
Speaker 1: the incarce heard of people like had this have happened
Speaker 1: a year before I came home? So I had gained
Speaker 1: extra time on my sentence, So I had gained two
Speaker 1: extra years out for disciplinary action. But for the last
Speaker 1: ten years I had ran a perfect program. Had this
Speaker 1: hit during the end of my sentence, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been able to come home. I would still be incarcerated.
Speaker 1: But look at who I am today. I've been home
Speaker 1: five years. So you're saying that a year before my
Speaker 1: release date, I wasn't redeemable. That's what they're saying, that
Speaker 1: these people aren't redeemable. Who has the value of a person?
Speaker 1: Who can determine the value of a person? And the
Speaker 1: people who are the determining people are people who are
Speaker 1: not marginalized, who have never been affected, who, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: like if you think of so, I can't do that,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. They're just people who
Speaker 1: have never experienced and they're looking at at people as
Speaker 1: a whole, as these black and these brown people, the
Speaker 1: most marginalized communities, and they're judging them. But we've been
Speaker 1: judged our whole entire lives, like we've always we've never
Speaker 1: had a chance. We've always been the community that couldn't
Speaker 1: have vote, the community that had to work for free.
Speaker 1: We were the community that we're taken from our family.
Speaker 1: We were the communities that were killed off because of diseases,
Speaker 1: like we've always been the guinea pig population and so
Speaker 1: here we are. Now I saw I'll come at the
Speaker 1: somebody say, oh, we'll test the vaccine on them. Also,
Speaker 1: now we're another guinea pig population. My suggestion would be
Speaker 1: plea for everyone, whether you are an advocate or not.
Speaker 1: If you have not been inside of a prison, please
Speaker 1: go visit someone and have a conversation. Don't toward the
Speaker 1: prison like a zoo. Go have a conversation with people,
Speaker 1: men and women who are incarcerated. For one, that would
Speaker 1: be one of my suggestions. And then if you want
Speaker 1: to come back after that a couple hour conversation and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I went in there and they're monsters,
Speaker 1: they're crazy, So be it right. If that's your if
Speaker 1: that's your answer afterwards, so be it. But my suggestion
Speaker 1: is go in there. I dare you. I challenge you
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with someone that's currently incarcerated. That's one.
Speaker 1: The second argument I want to make is more of
Speaker 1: the you know, the fiscal argument. Now, what I don't
Speaker 1: understand people don't want to listen to the ethos or paythos,
Speaker 1: the experience or or the empathy part of it, and
Speaker 1: most people don't care. Then think about how your money
Speaker 1: when you go to work and those taxes, that check
Speaker 1: comes and all that that big, you know, amount of
Speaker 1: dollars is missing. Think about where that's going and how
Speaker 1: that is being spent towards public safety. So, nationally we
Speaker 1: spend eighty billion dollars a year on our prisons and
Speaker 1: jail prisons facilities eight zero. The next thing above that
Speaker 1: that the government's fans I believe is military. So it's military.
Speaker 1: Then right below that its prisons. Right that's where our
Speaker 1: tax dollars are going. That's one. However, nationally, there's a
Speaker 1: sixty five a way it goes, I mean a fluctuate
Speaker 1: sixty five to seventy percent recientivism rate in our country.
Speaker 1: So having said that, if there was any other business
Speaker 1: that had a seventy percent recall rate, don't you think
Speaker 1: that would be shut down or some type of eyes
Speaker 1: would be on it. If there was a car company,
Speaker 1: for example, if there was a car company that had
Speaker 1: a seventy percent recall rate, don't you think that the
Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau would shut that company down? If there
Speaker 1: was some food like meat, I could meet company and
Speaker 1: that was selling meat and seventy percent of the meat
Speaker 1: was being recalled because it was not safety, it was
Speaker 1: not safe for public. Don't you think it would be
Speaker 1: shut down? But when it comes to our prisons, they
Speaker 1: have a seventy percent recall, right, and that seventy percent
Speaker 1: is linked directly to a lack of housing and employment
Speaker 1: opportunities for people. Right, So the accountability doesn't that's seventy percent.
Speaker 1: Accountability doesn't fall on the individual themselves. That actually that
Speaker 1: that is actually the government's responsibility to provide safe housing
Speaker 1: and proper financial aid. And you know, so that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know if I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is great because when I think about it,
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about the prison industrial complex, we
Speaker 1: talk about the privatization of prisons. We talk about the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, we space the amount of money
Speaker 1: that you just are talking about, we don't even put
Speaker 1: into education in this country. We don't even put it
Speaker 1: that money into public education, let alone we're in the
Speaker 1: middle of a global frigging pandemic. We don't put that.
Speaker 1: We don't put that money into our healthcare system, do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like when
Speaker 1: you think about it, like you're saying if you don't
Speaker 1: want to think about people humanity, right, and and like
Speaker 1: what is what is good and what is right and
Speaker 1: what is just If you just look out the economics
Speaker 1: of it, it's failing, Right, it's failing. And that you
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself who makes money? You know, who
Speaker 1: are the people that are making the money off of this? Right,
Speaker 1: Because that's why there's no change, That's why there's no shift.
Speaker 1: Because if you couldn't profit off of other people's pain,
Speaker 1: then this wouldn't Then it wouldn't be a thing. And
Speaker 1: we're country built on somebody always having to be higher
Speaker 1: and lesser than people. Correct, if we're built on colonization,
Speaker 1: colonizing these slaves, colonizing these countries we're built on or
Speaker 1: a country where a black person is considered three fifths
Speaker 1: of a person. So if we didn't have a person
Speaker 1: to look down on, our population to look down on,
Speaker 1: that's how our country was built. So they need this
Speaker 1: population to keep having their supremacist behavior. How can you
Speaker 1: how can you have the supreme behavior if there's nothing
Speaker 1: that you can deem or make people focus on this
Speaker 1: beneath you? We're built on supremacy. Oh, everything is just
Speaker 1: so depressing. So can I give you a number? Yeah? Please?
Speaker 1: So So in California, California has more than any other state.
Speaker 1: California alone, let's talk about them, has the biggest gap
Speaker 1: between education and prison spending. So like paying paying just
Speaker 1: under twelve thousand dollars for a student as opposed to
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars per incarcerated person. However, that number goes
Speaker 1: way higher in California if you have any medical ailments,
Speaker 1: and if you have if you are I think I
Speaker 1: believe the number is like ages fifty or fifty five
Speaker 1: and above. But period in general, that goes well into
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. So again, just under twelve thousand for
Speaker 1: a student. That are that you and me, that our
Speaker 1: taxes are gone to for our kids, our future, But
Speaker 1: then eighty thousand plus for incarcerated people. And America is
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in healthcare, twenty seventh in education in the world,
Speaker 1: but number one in incarceration. And those numbers have a
Speaker 1: causal relationship between each other. Why don't people see that?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just so it's so clear, right, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so so clear to me. And again I always
Speaker 1: say on my show, I'm like follow the money right,
Speaker 1: like you ever look you ever look look for you know,
Speaker 1: you want to understand something because you're trying to understand
Speaker 1: it with your rational brain and it's not clicking. It's like,
Speaker 1: just follow the money, right, who is getting rich? Right?
Speaker 1: Like we're in a situation right now where you know,
Speaker 1: one of the other announcements with regard to prisons were
Speaker 1: the low level offenders, non violent offenders, right, that are
Speaker 1: being that we're being released and are continuing to be released,
Speaker 1: right because of the spread of the virus. And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, so we needed a virus to have released,
Speaker 1: Like why were they? Why were they still in prison? Right?
Speaker 1: If you could see fit and you're looking at these
Speaker 1: people and you're saying, huh, well, they're not violent. They've
Speaker 1: paid a large part of their debt to society whatever
Speaker 1: whatever that actually means. Because it seems as if you
Speaker 1: enter into the criminal justice system, you were just made
Speaker 1: to pay the debt for the rest of your life,
Speaker 1: right because you have a mark, like a scarlet letter
Speaker 1: on you that it's like I have been in prison,
Speaker 1: which means that now employment is hard, healthcare is hard,
Speaker 1: all of everything becomes harder, and it seems as if
Speaker 1: you never pay off that debt. But I think to myself,
Speaker 1: why wasn't Why wasn't the decision made before? Right? Our
Speaker 1: prisons are overcrowded as it is. Government tried to step
Speaker 1: in the federal government stepped in in two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven because the CDCR the prisons were so overcrowded, and
Speaker 1: instead of them releasing people, they started shipping them out
Speaker 1: of states, shipping them from prison to prison daily, sending
Speaker 1: all the women into one prison and then putting the
Speaker 1: men into a whole another prison. So their answer to
Speaker 1: the overcrowding was shipping and privatizing prisons, shipping them to
Speaker 1: more private prisons, and making sure that people were still incarcerated.
Speaker 1: I think what it was who says it best is
Speaker 1: meek Mill. Meek Mill says that the judges kills you
Speaker 1: on paper, and so like, what we're doing is we're
Speaker 1: killing people on paper. We're just exact we're giving these sentences,
Speaker 1: we're writing out these we're putting on these documents that
Speaker 1: these people are the worst of the society, they cannot
Speaker 1: be redeemed. They basically we shouldn't have a chance. And
Speaker 1: they give you this paper, they give you this sentence,
Speaker 1: you're off. And now once you're off, you go service
Speaker 1: time in prison, you come home, you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: parole for three years. It depending on your sentence, if
Speaker 1: your life, and you might be on lifetime parole, five
Speaker 1: year parole, seven year parole. During those times, you cannot vote,
Speaker 1: You cannot choose who is the person that you want
Speaker 1: to endorse to make better decisions. Who's gonna have your
Speaker 1: well being at hand? You have a hard time obtaining employment,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a hard time getting a job. And
Speaker 1: let's say you are a person with no support. There
Speaker 1: comes to recidivism, right, because now the government doesn't help you.
Speaker 1: The companies that they have given the funding for the housing,
Speaker 1: they're constantly losing their funding because they have misappropriated the funds.
Speaker 1: So people are losing their housing money trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where they're gonna live. And this is an ongoing cycle.
Speaker 1: So CDCR keeps giving the money to the west Care.
Speaker 1: West Care, who was a national company, takes the money,
Speaker 1: gives it to another entity which is one of their
Speaker 1: own companies. And so the and the money just like
Speaker 1: you say, follow the money, How can they never have
Speaker 1: Funey How can people never have How how can people
Speaker 1: keep going back to jail because of the systems and
Speaker 1: the rehabilitative systems that they put in place do not work.
Speaker 1: They took on CDCR in two thousand and seven to
Speaker 1: come back, and the cars were read in the state,
Speaker 1: and they took on this R. But the R is
Speaker 1: not working, and you got more money for the R.
Speaker 1: All it is is a letter. It's not doing anything,
Speaker 1: and you have no systems in place to sustain these
Speaker 1: people when they come home. Danielle, you mentioned the non
Speaker 1: violent violent disparity. I want to tell the if I
Speaker 1: could say something to our our listeners about that. So
Speaker 1: we when we when we do that, when we say
Speaker 1: they say let out the only non violent low level offenders.
Speaker 1: An offenders is a term that I don't use. I'm
Speaker 1: only using it for context. It is very dehumanizing. I
Speaker 1: was called a offender inmate prisoner for a long long
Speaker 1: time and that took away my identity. So I just
Speaker 1: want to say that for myself real quick. But when
Speaker 1: we say that, make that disparity where once again what
Speaker 1: we do is we marginalize, they'll marginalized. And I want
Speaker 1: to share about my mentor My mentor is sixty eight
Speaker 1: years old. He has been incarcerated forty two years. He
Speaker 1: was given a seven year to life sentence in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven, nineteen seventy eight, and that meant that after
Speaker 1: seven years he was able to go, he was eligible
Speaker 1: to go to pro board, which he did and they
Speaker 1: keep denying him. Has been forty two years now. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had a single disciplinary infraction in over thirty years.
Speaker 1: So my point is if a person committed a quote
Speaker 1: unquote violent act ten twenty fifteen, forty plus years ago,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're violent today. And you know,
Speaker 1: if I got in a fight in high school, does
Speaker 1: that mean I'm a violent person today, whether I'm in
Speaker 1: prison or not. So when we look at what violence
Speaker 1: is and reevaluate how we use that term and who
Speaker 1: we label that term too, it will be it's very
Speaker 1: like even when we look at factually. So I was
Speaker 1: sentenced at eighteen years old to twenty five years to
Speaker 1: life as a quote unquote violent offender. Sixteen years later,
Speaker 1: the same judge that sentenced me to twenty five a
Speaker 1: life resentenced me to three years and released me that day.
Speaker 1: Didn't put me on parole or probation. She said, this
Speaker 1: is a year ago. She says, you're free after serving
Speaker 1: sixteen years, and I got out as a quote unquote
Speaker 1: violent offender, labeled technically. And so my point is that
Speaker 1: when we look at this and we look at facts again,
Speaker 1: look at numbers again, that the safest population, factually the
Speaker 1: safest population to release are the people who have served
Speaker 1: life or lengthy sentences. Under Governor Brown, the previous eight
Speaker 1: years of our state before Governor k Newsom, there's been
Speaker 1: about five plus, five thousand plus lifers meeting people who
Speaker 1: were serving life sentences in prison were freed either under
Speaker 1: either either under legislation or the governor commuted by his
Speaker 1: executive power by his power to release them. The recidivism
Speaker 1: rate for for that five thousand plus lifers has been
Speaker 1: less than one percent. And those that recidivism has been
Speaker 1: like violations like okay, you're supposed to go to your
Speaker 1: transitional home, arrive at ten o'clock. You arrived at ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Those are those types of violations, not new crimes. Um.
Speaker 1: So the so factually the safest population to release are
Speaker 1: the ones who are quote unquote violent. Sadly, the quote
Speaker 1: non violent low level drug offenses or those offenses that
Speaker 1: that people come out on, they do have the highest
Speaker 1: recidivism rate. And that's because again linked to housing an
Speaker 1: employment that our government has failed to provide. You know,
Speaker 1: what is it that the both of you, you know,
Speaker 1: for the woke app audience that is that is listening.
Speaker 1: What would you say to them if they are interested
Speaker 1: in becoming advocates, in getting involved? Um, what they can?
Speaker 1: What can they do? That's one? And two? How do
Speaker 1: we stay up to date with what is happening with
Speaker 1: the prison population and the virus? Because I also believe
Speaker 1: much in the way that the government is lying about
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're also not going to
Speaker 1: get the facts here, So how do we look to
Speaker 1: be informed as well? So I know, like right now,
Speaker 1: the way that representing Justice is operating, they're constantly putting
Speaker 1: out information as it relates and pertained to people who
Speaker 1: are incarcerated and and for people to get involved. You
Speaker 1: can get involved to represent justice or you can also
Speaker 1: get involved with your local organizations. So any grassroom organization
Speaker 1: that's doing work in a community, like they're going to
Speaker 1: have the answers, especially if it's a it's a if
Speaker 1: it's an organization that is directly working with the formerly
Speaker 1: are currently incarcerated population. They know they're people and if
Speaker 1: people so also look at who's leading the movement. So
Speaker 1: if you go to organization and they're talking about people
Speaker 1: who are incarcerated, but you see no form of incarcerated
Speaker 1: people at the helm of the movement, they might like
Speaker 1: I would look for the organizations that are really using
Speaker 1: the people who have been a part of the I
Speaker 1: don't want to say the problem, but who have been
Speaker 1: who have been affected by these systems and join your
Speaker 1: gradual organizations, Like that's a gain in contact with what
Speaker 1: your legislators like learn about policy, If you learn about
Speaker 1: how policies move and what's needed to give policies off
Speaker 1: the ground, I think that that will spark people to
Speaker 1: want to be more involved, because you'll now know how
Speaker 1: your voice matters, and what they're not doing, and how
Speaker 1: we need to vote, and how we need to make
Speaker 1: sure that we have people who have our best interests
Speaker 1: at the helm of making decisions. Yeah, and I would
Speaker 1: add to that well said of April, thank you. I
Speaker 1: would add to that that first and foremost most basic,
Speaker 1: like you're doing like we're kind of doing right. Now,
Speaker 1: educate yourself on these issues, not just um public opinion, UM,
Speaker 1: but go look at facts, go look at numbers, um and.
Speaker 1: So yes, obviously you can google it, but people like
Speaker 1: April and I represent justice and our organizations Restore Justice
Speaker 1: UM are in the front lines, on the front lines
Speaker 1: fighting and putting out information and are going like talking
Speaker 1: to the governors, talking to people in power. UM. So
Speaker 1: one if educate yourself, either google it, google information, watch
Speaker 1: things on TV, but also follow us on social media.
Speaker 1: I'm posting a lot of constant updates and rhetoric and
Speaker 1: just constant information on my Twitter. If I could just
Speaker 1: plug that in, is that okay? Yeah? Please, yes, of
Speaker 1: course I'm good. I was gonna say, please tell folks
Speaker 1: how they can follow you, follow you both uh and
Speaker 1: and your organizations. Yeah. My my organization is Restore Justice. UM.
Speaker 1: You can just just Restore Justice on Twitter, Instagram, even Facebook.
Speaker 1: My my personal account on Instagram, and I'm more active
Speaker 1: on Twitter, um and which is a k h A
Speaker 1: N one three seven, So that's a con fourteen thirty seven.
Speaker 1: And I'm constantly posting about, just like I said, updates
Speaker 1: and information and different angles to look at things of
Speaker 1: our prison population, especially in this time of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: The other thing I would say to people is, for example, Danielle,
Speaker 1: if if where you live, if I was a representative
Speaker 1: in your district, meaning I represent you, Daniel, but I
Speaker 1: don't represent your values, or your morals or your ethics
Speaker 1: at all, and I'm making decisions, I'm making decisions on
Speaker 1: your behalf. Then why am I in this position and
Speaker 1: not saying why have you directly put me in this
Speaker 1: position by either your vote or even if you didn't vote,
Speaker 1: if that's still a yes for me? Come on, right,
Speaker 1: So if you didn't vote, that's still a yes for
Speaker 1: me and the person that does not represent your values,
Speaker 1: your ethics, your morals, and so I really want to
Speaker 1: encourage everyone where you live right now, Google who is
Speaker 1: your local council member, representative, state senator, assembly member, um,
Speaker 1: your you know, congress member, Like, figure that person out.
Speaker 1: Does that person value you and what you in your
Speaker 1: community need? If not, don't vote for them. In second,
Speaker 1: vote for the other person. And if there is another person,
Speaker 1: then you run on that platform. Let us people who
Speaker 1: are impacted run on that platform, and we'll represent you properly. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that's not happening, and so people really don't understand the
Speaker 1: importance of voting, importance of getting political. We have power,
Speaker 1: people power, and we have to exercise it. It's in
Speaker 1: our hands, it's in our ability. Let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the both of you so very much. Thank
Speaker 1: you April and a Non for joining Woke a F.
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