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Speaker 1: Good morning, folks, and welcome to woka F Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody right here live from my

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Speaker 1: Special gift to all of you, folks. A couple of

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Speaker 1: very interesting stories have been bubbling around, but first I

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Speaker 1: want to take on a Twitter hater that came at

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Speaker 1: me this week. I posted an article that is incredibly important,

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Speaker 1: one which I will get into today. Came out in

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Speaker 1: CNN that the director of a key federal vaccine agency

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Speaker 1: says that his departure from that agency and being moved

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Speaker 1: I tweeted, right, and let me let me tell you

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Speaker 1: about the tweet. So this is from the article, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read it verbatim because I want you

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Speaker 1: to really wrap your mind around all of the other

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Speaker 1: things that are taking place that are completely fucking our

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Speaker 1: ability to quote unquote reopen and to recover right in

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Speaker 1: a real way. And it is because of Trump's ego,

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Speaker 1: because of his greed, and because of his lies right

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Speaker 1: that we are in this predicament where we America is

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Speaker 1: inching towards one million coronavirus cases right. It is right

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Speaker 1: now at eight hundred a bit over eight hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: That is in many places, about eight times more, eight

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Speaker 1: times more cases than any other nation. We know that

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Speaker 1: New York where I am, is the epicenter, and we

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Speaker 1: know this because the governor here is doing the most testing.

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Speaker 1: What we are learning from scientists if you pay attention

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Speaker 1: to them, from listening to the CDC and others that

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Speaker 1: are saying that in order for us to reopen successfully

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Speaker 1: without there being a second wave that is worse, imagine

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Speaker 1: twenty million people a day. Do you know how many

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Speaker 1: people We have tested? Four million, and that is not

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Speaker 1: four million. We have issued four million tests. That is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily on four million different people and that has

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Speaker 1: happened over the course of a month, more than a month.

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Speaker 1: So this is what the director of well, former director

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Speaker 1: of a biomedical Advanced Research and Development authority which I'd

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Speaker 1: never heard of until this article. Because what we are

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Speaker 1: So let me read you this. The director of the

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Speaker 1: abruptly dismissed from his post in part because he resisted

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Speaker 1: efforts to widen the availability of coronavirus treatments pushed by

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. Now, mind you, Trump not a fucking doctor, right,

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Speaker 1: He's actually a quack and pushing either conspiracy theories or

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Speaker 1: medicate drugs and medication that are developed by his donors.

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Speaker 1: So why would you push that? Oh so that the

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Speaker 1: federal government then pays his cronies, right and they get

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Speaker 1: fucking works. Let me go on. Doctor Rick Bright had

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Speaker 1: whistleblower complaint the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said. I believe this transfer was in

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Speaker 1: response to my insistence that the government invests the billions

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Speaker 1: this administration, right and this rush to reopen. He was

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Speaker 1: as profit does. Right. So essentially, what the President of

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Speaker 1: who consistently walks back statements that he said, he said

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Speaker 1: Why were there still governors begging for ventilators? Why do

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Speaker 1: instead of the federal government. Right, So when we have

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Speaker 1: Yes it fucking sucks. Right, twenty two million people are

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Speaker 1: this is political retaliation. He is a symbol. Now, So

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Speaker 1: what other doctors are going to decide to go the

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Speaker 1: you know what, we can send people back. We'll send

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Speaker 1: the public school system who the fuck cares right. We

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Speaker 1: here's what I did. Let me go back to Twitter now,

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Speaker 1: So I post this article, the CNN one, and I

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Speaker 1: have no idea, we should ask somebody. But what a

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Speaker 1: a more reasonable approach that goes after doing by both parties.

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Speaker 1: This will help to restore your damaged credibility. The Danielle

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Speaker 1: their negligence and their fucking lives have cost so far

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Speaker 1: over forty thousand lives. So no, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what exactly do you think that

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Speaker 1: But they keep having to make compromises with a party

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Speaker 1: There is a party that has now become the arbiters

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Speaker 1: That's the reality of where we are and where we've gotten.

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Speaker 1: How did we get here, Well, that's a story for

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Speaker 1: another day. But put it this way that when you

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Speaker 1: and my thought was, why does she need a mask?

432
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's only susceptible or vulnerable if she

433
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: brings it to me. But they have this you could

434
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: feel like this energy of like we were the contaminated ones.

435
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: So like even right now in the institution, like there's

436
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: this energy of they're the ones that are contaminated and

437
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: they're the ones that they need, the officers need to

438
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: be fearful of. But that's not the case. This is

439
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: a very sterile population. We are a very sterile population.

440
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: And so just knowing that if a person doesn't have humanity,

441
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: meaning the officer doesn't have humanity, if the medical staff

442
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have humanity, they're treating me as if I'm the problem. Yeah, yeah,

443
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Can I jump in for a second, Yeah please, Yeah.

444
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I just want to comment on quote unquote social distancing.

445
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: I want to I just want to clarify to our

446
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: viewers or sorry, our listeners that social distancing is possible

447
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: in prison. As a matter of fact, I was sentenced

448
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: to social distance. Um, physical distancing is completely impossible, right right,

449
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: right right? And that is a that is a point

450
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: of clarification. You know. One of the things that has

451
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: been going around on the news as well is the

452
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: fact that, uh, those folks that are currently incarcerated are

453
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: being forced right used as manual labor to make hand

454
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: sanitizer that they're not able to use because it has

455
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: alcohol in it and having alcohol is against the rules.

456
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: How does that even? How does that work? And and

457
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: and and being paid? I think I heard in one

458
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: report that it was like sixteen cents a day to

459
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: be making gallons and gallons of hand sanitizer. What are

460
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: your guys's thoughts on that? Can I talk about this one?

461
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: And it's not so I want to talk about the

462
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: face mask also prison and the woman's prison is CIW

463
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: the PIA workers were making and PIA is like the

464
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: state worker who makes who manufactures massive goods for different

465
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: prisons and different entities, and they get paid menial amounts

466
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: of money. And so they were making face masks that

467
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: they couldn't even utilize. So let's not even talk about

468
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: the thing with the alcohol because of the alcohol content.

469
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: That's the reason why let's talk about the thing that

470
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: they could have that they were getting immediately, because they

471
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: had to give it out to other people to make

472
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: sure others had it before they themselves could get this

473
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: face mask. And so now throughout these weeks, the face

474
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: masks are now being distributed to the population, but it

475
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: took two and three weeks for the people who are

476
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: actually making them to get them. So we could talk

477
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: about hand sanitizer, which, oh it has alcohol, but let's

478
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: talk about the face mask which doesn't. What was your

479
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: reasoning for not giving them the maker of the face

480
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: mask who was making it at slave wages and cannot quote.

481
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Daniel. April and I had the

482
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: discussion so many times, and I would love, if you

483
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: don't mind, April, talk about the immediately post thirteenth Amendment

484
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: and how people were incarcerated to be laborers, to be workers. Yeah,

485
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: so this is one of my favorite topics, of course,

486
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: is m Amendment thirteen and when they abolished slavery. So

487
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: you abolished slavery with the clause of unless a person

488
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: commits a crime, or if a person commits a crime.

489
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: But we're still in the dawn of criminalization of black

490
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: people because you still wanted to have slave labor. Like

491
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: the war wasn't fought over industries. It was really fought

492
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: over words, over industries with over people. So that could

493
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: go far. But so I'm gonna go too far. But

494
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: once they abolished slavery, they thus started. You couldn't drink

495
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: out of a water fountain, You're going to jail. If

496
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: you didn't drop your head when they called you boy,

497
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: you were going to jail. If they if they said

498
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: that you whistled at a white woman, which we know

499
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: you weren't, you would want to jail any they had

500
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: any reason to arrest. Let's start of mass incarceration. So

501
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: they've been trying to get free labor since the eighteen

502
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: hundreds to seventeen hundreds to sixteen hundreds. This is the

503
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: beginning of colonization. And they will get straight, I'm sorry,

504
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: they will get They will get sent straight back to

505
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: the plantations. And many would go right back to the

506
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: plantations that as now as an incarcerated person that they

507
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: were quote unquote freed from um. So you fast forward

508
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: one hundred some years later that using incarcerated people as

509
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: workers and paying them pennies or nothing in many facilities, Um,

510
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: it just goes back to their industry, the complex of

511
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: an industry and businesses. And if we're talking about public safety,

512
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: I believe rehabilitation achieves public safety. So when you release,

513
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: there's six hundred thousand people come out every year out

514
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: of our prisons nationally, six hundred thousand. And I worked.

515
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I didn't work for hand

516
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: sanitizer anything I was. I just got I was released

517
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: last year. But an example of one of my jobs

518
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: was I worked in the kitchen. I cleaned almost four

519
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: thousand trays every single day for eight hours, and I

520
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: was paid eight cents an hour. And I remember I

521
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: was in a facility where I was given and where

522
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: first first time in my in cars ration twelve years later,

523
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: I was given an opportunity to join self help groups

524
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: and programs and which I immediately got into. But one

525
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: day I come back to my cell and April you

526
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: know that I had a work assignment card on my

527
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: top bunk on my bunk and I knew immediately what

528
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: it was. I looked at him like, oh, they just

529
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: assigned me to a job, which meant my job, which

530
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: is eight cents an hour, is my priority, not my rehabilitation.

531
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: So I had to leave my classes that I was

532
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: taking for my childhood development, my childhood trauma, whatever it

533
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: was that I was taking, I had to leave those

534
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: because priority in prison is work. Wow, I mean, how

535
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: do you you know? It seems so difficult, like an

536
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: uphill battle to advocate for a population that isn't that

537
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: isn't being that isn't looked at as rehabilitating, rehabilitating, right

538
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: like you, we say, we say that we want folks

539
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: to be rehabilitated, we want you to re enter society

540
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: and all of these things, but then we don't treat

541
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: you like human beings while you're actually supposed to be

542
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: going through this rehabilitation process. So how do you how

543
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: do you set up your ability to advocate for a

544
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: population that is that is shrugged off. So this is

545
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: a tough one because yes or just yesterday, I was

546
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: reading comments on one of the posts that represent Justice

547
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: has posted and looking at these comments that these people

548
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: are answering, like it's beyond me, the the lack of

549
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: humanity for people. It is beyond me. How the healthy

550
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: people ask people? Yeah, and so it's it's it's so

551
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: if you don't look like saying as the news, if

552
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: you don't watch it, you don't really pay attention to it,

553
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: and you can just keep going on because like, my

554
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: fight is for the almost eight thousand women that are

555
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: incarcerated in California, and I'm going to continue to fight.

556
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: My fight is for anybody incarcerated. But of course my

557
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: population I'm going to continue to fight for is then

558
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: the woman's population, because I feel like we are under

559
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: service population. And so I just for me. I know

560
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: what I came out here to do, and I know

561
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: what I was lacking when I was incarcerated, And so

562
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: if not me, then who else? Like if not I'm none,

563
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: then who else? Like who else can speak to a

564
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: situation with as much insight as us, with the passion,

565
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: with the determination, and know like when you think about

566
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: the incarce heard of people like had this have happened

567
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: a year before I came home? So I had gained

568
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: extra time on my sentence, So I had gained two

569
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: extra years out for disciplinary action. But for the last

570
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: ten years I had ran a perfect program. Had this

571
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: hit during the end of my sentence, I wouldn't have

572
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: been able to come home. I would still be incarcerated.

573
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: But look at who I am today. I've been home

574
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: five years. So you're saying that a year before my

575
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: release date, I wasn't redeemable. That's what they're saying, that

576
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: these people aren't redeemable. Who has the value of a person?

577
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Who can determine the value of a person? And the

578
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: people who are the determining people are people who are

579
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: not marginalized, who have never been affected, who, in my opinion,

580
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: like if you think of so, I can't do that,

581
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. They're just people who

582
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: have never experienced and they're looking at at people as

583
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: a whole, as these black and these brown people, the

584
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: most marginalized communities, and they're judging them. But we've been

585
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: judged our whole entire lives, like we've always we've never

586
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: had a chance. We've always been the community that couldn't

587
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: have vote, the community that had to work for free.

588
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: We were the community that we're taken from our family.

589
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: We were the communities that were killed off because of diseases,

590
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: like we've always been the guinea pig population and so

591
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: here we are. Now I saw I'll come at the

592
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: somebody say, oh, we'll test the vaccine on them. Also,

593
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: now we're another guinea pig population. My suggestion would be

594
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: plea for everyone, whether you are an advocate or not.

595
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: If you have not been inside of a prison, please

596
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: go visit someone and have a conversation. Don't toward the

597
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: prison like a zoo. Go have a conversation with people,

598
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: men and women who are incarcerated. For one, that would

599
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: be one of my suggestions. And then if you want

600
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: to come back after that a couple hour conversation and say,

601
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I went in there and they're monsters,

602
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: they're crazy, So be it right. If that's your if

603
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: that's your answer afterwards, so be it. But my suggestion

604
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: is go in there. I dare you. I challenge you

605
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with someone that's currently incarcerated. That's one.

606
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: The second argument I want to make is more of

607
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: the you know, the fiscal argument. Now, what I don't

608
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: understand people don't want to listen to the ethos or paythos,

609
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: the experience or or the empathy part of it, and

610
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: most people don't care. Then think about how your money

611
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: when you go to work and those taxes, that check

612
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: comes and all that that big, you know, amount of

613
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: dollars is missing. Think about where that's going and how

614
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: that is being spent towards public safety. So, nationally we

615
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: spend eighty billion dollars a year on our prisons and

616
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: jail prisons facilities eight zero. The next thing above that

617
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that the government's fans I believe is military. So it's military.

618
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Then right below that its prisons. Right that's where our

619
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: tax dollars are going. That's one. However, nationally, there's a

620
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: sixty five a way it goes, I mean a fluctuate

621
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: sixty five to seventy percent recientivism rate in our country.

622
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: So having said that, if there was any other business

623
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: that had a seventy percent recall rate, don't you think

624
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: that would be shut down or some type of eyes

625
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: would be on it. If there was a car company,

626
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: for example, if there was a car company that had

627
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: a seventy percent recall rate, don't you think that the

628
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau would shut that company down? If there

629
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: was some food like meat, I could meet company and

630
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: that was selling meat and seventy percent of the meat

631
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: was being recalled because it was not safety, it was

632
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: not safe for public. Don't you think it would be

633
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: shut down? But when it comes to our prisons, they

634
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: have a seventy percent recall, right, and that seventy percent

635
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: is linked directly to a lack of housing and employment

636
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: opportunities for people. Right, So the accountability doesn't that's seventy percent.

637
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Accountability doesn't fall on the individual themselves. That actually that

638
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: that is actually the government's responsibility to provide safe housing

639
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: and proper financial aid. And you know, so that's it.

640
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know if I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no,

641
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: this is this is great because when I think about it,

642
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about the prison industrial complex, we

643
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: talk about the privatization of prisons. We talk about the

644
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: fact that you know, we space the amount of money

645
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: that you just are talking about, we don't even put

646
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: into education in this country. We don't even put it

647
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: that money into public education, let alone we're in the

648
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: middle of a global frigging pandemic. We don't put that.

649
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: We don't put that money into our healthcare system, do

650
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like when

651
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: you think about it, like you're saying if you don't

652
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: want to think about people humanity, right, and and like

653
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: what is what is good and what is right and

654
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: what is just If you just look out the economics

655
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: of it, it's failing, Right, it's failing. And that you

656
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself who makes money? You know, who

657
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: are the people that are making the money off of this? Right,

658
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Because that's why there's no change, That's why there's no shift.

659
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Because if you couldn't profit off of other people's pain,

660
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: then this wouldn't Then it wouldn't be a thing. And

661
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: we're country built on somebody always having to be higher

662
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and lesser than people. Correct, if we're built on colonization,

663
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: colonizing these slaves, colonizing these countries we're built on or

664
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: a country where a black person is considered three fifths

665
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: of a person. So if we didn't have a person

666
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: to look down on, our population to look down on,

667
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: that's how our country was built. So they need this

668
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: population to keep having their supremacist behavior. How can you

669
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: how can you have the supreme behavior if there's nothing

670
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: that you can deem or make people focus on this

671
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: beneath you? We're built on supremacy. Oh, everything is just

672
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: so depressing. So can I give you a number? Yeah? Please?

673
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: So So in California, California has more than any other state.

674
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: California alone, let's talk about them, has the biggest gap

675
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: between education and prison spending. So like paying paying just

676
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: under twelve thousand dollars for a student as opposed to

677
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars per incarcerated person. However, that number goes

678
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: way higher in California if you have any medical ailments,

679
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: and if you have if you are I think I

680
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: believe the number is like ages fifty or fifty five

681
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and above. But period in general, that goes well into

682
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. So again, just under twelve thousand for

683
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: a student. That are that you and me, that our

684
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: taxes are gone to for our kids, our future, But

685
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: then eighty thousand plus for incarcerated people. And America is

686
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in healthcare, twenty seventh in education in the world,

687
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: but number one in incarceration. And those numbers have a

688
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: causal relationship between each other. Why don't people see that?

689
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just so it's so clear, right, Like,

690
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: it's so so clear to me. And again I always

691
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: say on my show, I'm like follow the money right,

692
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: like you ever look you ever look look for you know,

693
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you want to understand something because you're trying to understand

694
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: it with your rational brain and it's not clicking. It's like,

695
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: just follow the money, right, who is getting rich? Right?

696
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Like we're in a situation right now where you know,

697
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: one of the other announcements with regard to prisons were

698
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: the low level offenders, non violent offenders, right, that are

699
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: being that we're being released and are continuing to be released,

700
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: right because of the spread of the virus. And I'm

701
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, so we needed a virus to have released,

702
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Like why were they? Why were they still in prison? Right?

703
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: If you could see fit and you're looking at these

704
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: people and you're saying, huh, well, they're not violent. They've

705
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: paid a large part of their debt to society whatever

706
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: whatever that actually means. Because it seems as if you

707
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: enter into the criminal justice system, you were just made

708
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: to pay the debt for the rest of your life,

709
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: right because you have a mark, like a scarlet letter

710
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: on you that it's like I have been in prison,

711
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: which means that now employment is hard, healthcare is hard,

712
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: all of everything becomes harder, and it seems as if

713
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you never pay off that debt. But I think to myself,

714
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: why wasn't Why wasn't the decision made before? Right? Our

715
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: prisons are overcrowded as it is. Government tried to step

716
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: in the federal government stepped in in two thousand and

717
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: seven because the CDCR the prisons were so overcrowded, and

718
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: instead of them releasing people, they started shipping them out

719
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: of states, shipping them from prison to prison daily, sending

720
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: all the women into one prison and then putting the

721
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: men into a whole another prison. So their answer to

722
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: the overcrowding was shipping and privatizing prisons, shipping them to

723
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: more private prisons, and making sure that people were still incarcerated.

724
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: I think what it was who says it best is

725
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: meek Mill. Meek Mill says that the judges kills you

726
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: on paper, and so like, what we're doing is we're

727
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: killing people on paper. We're just exact we're giving these sentences,

728
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: we're writing out these we're putting on these documents that

729
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: these people are the worst of the society, they cannot

730
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: be redeemed. They basically we shouldn't have a chance. And

731
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: they give you this paper, they give you this sentence,

732
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: you're off. And now once you're off, you go service

733
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: time in prison, you come home, you're gonna be on

734
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: parole for three years. It depending on your sentence, if

735
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: your life, and you might be on lifetime parole, five

736
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: year parole, seven year parole. During those times, you cannot vote,

737
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: You cannot choose who is the person that you want

738
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: to endorse to make better decisions. Who's gonna have your

739
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: well being at hand? You have a hard time obtaining employment,

740
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a hard time getting a job. And

741
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: let's say you are a person with no support. There

742
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: comes to recidivism, right, because now the government doesn't help you.

743
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: The companies that they have given the funding for the housing,

744
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: they're constantly losing their funding because they have misappropriated the funds.

745
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: So people are losing their housing money trying to figure

746
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: out where they're gonna live. And this is an ongoing cycle.

747
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: So CDCR keeps giving the money to the west Care.

748
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: West Care, who was a national company, takes the money,

749
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: gives it to another entity which is one of their

750
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: own companies. And so the and the money just like

751
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: you say, follow the money, How can they never have

752
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Funey How can people never have How how can people

753
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: keep going back to jail because of the systems and

754
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: the rehabilitative systems that they put in place do not work.

755
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: They took on CDCR in two thousand and seven to

756
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: come back, and the cars were read in the state,

757
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: and they took on this R. But the R is

758
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: not working, and you got more money for the R.

759
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: All it is is a letter. It's not doing anything,

760
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: and you have no systems in place to sustain these

761
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: people when they come home. Danielle, you mentioned the non

762
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: violent violent disparity. I want to tell the if I

763
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: could say something to our our listeners about that. So

764
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: we when we when we do that, when we say

765
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: they say let out the only non violent low level offenders.

766
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: An offenders is a term that I don't use. I'm

767
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: only using it for context. It is very dehumanizing. I

768
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: was called a offender inmate prisoner for a long long

769
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: time and that took away my identity. So I just

770
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: want to say that for myself real quick. But when

771
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: we say that, make that disparity where once again what

772
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: we do is we marginalize, they'll marginalized. And I want

773
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: to share about my mentor My mentor is sixty eight

774
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: years old. He has been incarcerated forty two years. He

775
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: was given a seven year to life sentence in nineteen

776
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: seventy seven, nineteen seventy eight, and that meant that after

777
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: seven years he was able to go, he was eligible

778
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: to go to pro board, which he did and they

779
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: keep denying him. Has been forty two years now. He

780
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: hasn't had a single disciplinary infraction in over thirty years.

781
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: So my point is if a person committed a quote

782
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: unquote violent act ten twenty fifteen, forty plus years ago,

783
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're violent today. And you know,

784
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: if I got in a fight in high school, does

785
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: that mean I'm a violent person today, whether I'm in

786
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: prison or not. So when we look at what violence

787
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: is and reevaluate how we use that term and who

788
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: we label that term too, it will be it's very

789
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: like even when we look at factually. So I was

790
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: sentenced at eighteen years old to twenty five years to

791
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: life as a quote unquote violent offender. Sixteen years later,

792
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: the same judge that sentenced me to twenty five a

793
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: life resentenced me to three years and released me that day.

794
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: Didn't put me on parole or probation. She said, this

795
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: is a year ago. She says, you're free after serving

796
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: sixteen years, and I got out as a quote unquote

797
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: violent offender, labeled technically. And so my point is that

798
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: when we look at this and we look at facts again,

799
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: look at numbers again, that the safest population, factually the

800
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: safest population to release are the people who have served

801
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: life or lengthy sentences. Under Governor Brown, the previous eight

802
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: years of our state before Governor k Newsom, there's been

803
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: about five plus, five thousand plus lifers meeting people who

804
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: were serving life sentences in prison were freed either under

805
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: either either under legislation or the governor commuted by his

806
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: executive power by his power to release them. The recidivism

807
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: rate for for that five thousand plus lifers has been

808
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: less than one percent. And those that recidivism has been

809
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: like violations like okay, you're supposed to go to your

810
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: transitional home, arrive at ten o'clock. You arrived at ten thirty.

811
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Those are those types of violations, not new crimes. Um.

812
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: So the so factually the safest population to release are

813
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: the ones who are quote unquote violent. Sadly, the quote

814
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: non violent low level drug offenses or those offenses that

815
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: that people come out on, they do have the highest

816
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: recidivism rate. And that's because again linked to housing an

817
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: employment that our government has failed to provide. You know,

818
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: what is it that the both of you, you know,

819
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: for the woke app audience that is that is listening.

820
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: What would you say to them if they are interested

821
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: in becoming advocates, in getting involved? Um, what they can?

822
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: What can they do? That's one? And two? How do

823
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: we stay up to date with what is happening with

824
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: the prison population and the virus? Because I also believe

825
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: much in the way that the government is lying about

826
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're also not going to

827
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: get the facts here, So how do we look to

828
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: be informed as well? So I know, like right now,

829
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: the way that representing Justice is operating, they're constantly putting

830
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: out information as it relates and pertained to people who

831
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: are incarcerated and and for people to get involved. You

832
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: can get involved to represent justice or you can also

833
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: get involved with your local organizations. So any grassroom organization

834
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: that's doing work in a community, like they're going to

835
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: have the answers, especially if it's a it's a if

836
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: it's an organization that is directly working with the formerly

837
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: are currently incarcerated population. They know they're people and if

838
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: people so also look at who's leading the movement. So

839
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: if you go to organization and they're talking about people

840
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: who are incarcerated, but you see no form of incarcerated

841
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: people at the helm of the movement, they might like

842
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: I would look for the organizations that are really using

843
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: the people who have been a part of the I

844
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: don't want to say the problem, but who have been

845
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: who have been affected by these systems and join your

846
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: gradual organizations, Like that's a gain in contact with what

847
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: your legislators like learn about policy, If you learn about

848
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: how policies move and what's needed to give policies off

849
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the ground, I think that that will spark people to

850
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: want to be more involved, because you'll now know how

851
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: your voice matters, and what they're not doing, and how

852
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: we need to vote, and how we need to make

853
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: sure that we have people who have our best interests

854
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: at the helm of making decisions. Yeah, and I would

855
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: add to that well said of April, thank you. I

856
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Speaker 1: would add to that that first and foremost most basic,

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Speaker 1: like you're doing like we're kind of doing right. Now,

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Speaker 1: educate yourself on these issues, not just um public opinion, UM,

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Speaker 1: but go look at facts, go look at numbers, um and.

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Speaker 1: So yes, obviously you can google it, but people like

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Speaker 1: April and I represent justice and our organizations Restore Justice

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Speaker 1: UM are in the front lines, on the front lines

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Speaker 1: fighting and putting out information and are going like talking

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Speaker 1: to the governors, talking to people in power. UM. So

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Speaker 1: one if educate yourself, either google it, google information, watch

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Speaker 1: things on TV, but also follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: I'm posting a lot of constant updates and rhetoric and

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Speaker 1: just constant information on my Twitter. If I could just

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Speaker 1: plug that in, is that okay? Yeah? Please, yes, of

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Speaker 1: course I'm good. I was gonna say, please tell folks

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Speaker 1: how they can follow you, follow you both uh and

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Speaker 1: and your organizations. Yeah. My my organization is Restore Justice. UM.

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Speaker 1: You can just just Restore Justice on Twitter, Instagram, even Facebook.

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Speaker 1: My my personal account on Instagram, and I'm more active

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Speaker 1: And I'm constantly posting about, just like I said, updates

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Speaker 1: our prison population, especially in this time of COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I would say to people is, for example, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: if if where you live, if I was a representative

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Speaker 1: in your district, meaning I represent you, Daniel, but I

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Speaker 1: don't represent your values, or your morals or your ethics

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Speaker 1: your behalf. Then why am I in this position and

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Speaker 1: not saying why have you directly put me in this

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Speaker 1: position by either your vote or even if you didn't vote,

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Speaker 1: if that's still a yes for me? Come on, right,

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Speaker 1: So if you didn't vote, that's still a yes for

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Speaker 1: me and the person that does not represent your values,

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Speaker 1: your ethics, your morals, and so I really want to

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Speaker 1: encourage everyone where you live right now, Google who is

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Speaker 1: your local council member, representative, state senator, assembly member, um,

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Speaker 1: your you know, congress member, Like, figure that person out.

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Speaker 1: Does that person value you and what you in your

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Speaker 1: community need? If not, don't vote for them. In second,

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Speaker 1: vote for the other person. And if there is another person,

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Speaker 1: then you run on that platform. Let us people who

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Speaker 1: are impacted run on that platform, and we'll represent you properly. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that's not happening, and so people really don't understand the

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Speaker 1: importance of voting, importance of getting political. We have power,

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Speaker 1: people power, and we have to exercise it. It's in

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Speaker 1: our hands, it's in our ability. Let's go, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the both of you so very much. Thank

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Speaker 1: you April and a Non for joining Woke a F.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you both will come back again to

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Speaker 1: keep us updated on things that we can do. I

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Speaker 1: like to provide the woke a F nation with opportunities

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Speaker 1: to get involved. People feel incredibly powerless right now and

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Speaker 1: just in general, before even before the coronavirus, people were

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Speaker 1: anyway that people can get involved and understand what is

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Speaker 1: happening in places that we don't discuss, I like to

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Speaker 1: bring to folks. So thank you both very much for joining,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the work that you do, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that you'll come back again soon. Thank you. All right, folks,

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Speaker 1: That is it for me today on Woke f Daily.

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Speaker 1: as always, power to the people and to all the

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Speaker 1: people power. Get and stay woke as fuck and safe

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