Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 1: We're back from Boston, New York. I'm kind of feeling
Speaker 1: withdrawals a little bit, are you. Yeah? I know yesterday
Speaker 1: I texted you both separately. You did Hi. It's such
Speaker 1: a high and then when you get back it's always
Speaker 1: like amah. So it is a lot of peopling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. I didn't want to speak. Still don't really
Speaker 1: want to speak. That's problematic. That is for the next minutes.
Speaker 1: I saved it for today. Yeah, it's crazy because we
Speaker 1: travel together, we hotel together, we podcasted while we were there,
Speaker 1: but then we also people with your people m and
Speaker 1: like I have you hug but I didn't have to.
Speaker 1: I get to do the meet and greets before and
Speaker 1: then after the show. So it's a lot. Yeah too,
Speaker 1: And you're taking on a lot of deep information. That's
Speaker 1: one thing that I kind of have realized this time.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I don't know how you've done
Speaker 1: this this well. I think one of the girls, because
Speaker 1: I had this one girl she was so sweet and
Speaker 1: boss that she was crying telling a near story and oh,
Speaker 1: Alan ding Ding, I goes the boyfriend ding Dong in London, England.
Speaker 1: So I yeah, So she was like crying. The next
Speaker 1: girl goes, this must be a lot for you, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I said, because the meeting
Speaker 1: groots are what like thirty forty five minutes and then
Speaker 1: after the show obviously was staying for however long, which
Speaker 1: I love meeting everybody and hearing stories. I love all that.
Speaker 1: And I told her, I said, there's so many mean, nasty,
Speaker 1: not not There's so many There are obviously some things.
Speaker 1: When you open yourself up to things, you get negative comments.
Speaker 1: But I often question myself, well why do I Why
Speaker 1: am I still doing this? And then I go, but
Speaker 1: this is why, because I hear these people's stories and
Speaker 1: how it's helped, and so that makes me feel happy.
Speaker 1: How we make them laugh, how you know they relate
Speaker 1: to you, how they relate to you, and so I
Speaker 1: think that's the piece where I'm like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: this is why like this and these weekends helped me
Speaker 1: realize what we're doing is for good. It's really special
Speaker 1: because you get to hug them. Yeah, Like I just
Speaker 1: really like to hug and it was along two years
Speaker 1: of non hugging, so I feel like I'm a hugg
Speaker 1: around the loose, but I just want to hold people
Speaker 1: and hear and touch their faces. I have to rain
Speaker 1: you in after the catch, like are you done over here?
Speaker 1: I'm like, cheek to cheek, minus sneaky reporters that try
Speaker 1: and come and come to a show like that was
Speaker 1: just so crappy. Okay, So I wasn't sure if you
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about that. Well, and I'm still confused
Speaker 1: by the whole thing a little bit. So it was
Speaker 1: interesting because I met this person, so you knew it
Speaker 1: was a reporter, well, I knew where she worked. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming unless there was another one there that I
Speaker 1: didn't meet, But she came with her mom, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, just I was like so like I'd kept
Speaker 1: telling her how proud I was of her making this
Speaker 1: big choice and moving to a big city, and she
Speaker 1: said it was a culture shock, and all these things
Speaker 1: just interesting. Yeah, because those shows obviously are not recorded
Speaker 1: and they're meant to be you know, we give them
Speaker 1: a little more tea than we'd give them on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but it's also a deeper level intimate exactly. And that's
Speaker 1: the part where I'm like, in a way, I was
Speaker 1: like felt a little violated and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. It was hurt that they went and that
Speaker 1: publication especially are so disgustingly low with how I mean,
Speaker 1: for example, they had someone parked outside my house, like
Speaker 1: they're just they're a nasty, ugly site, yeah, for just drama.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I just I despise the fact that
Speaker 1: she was even an audience. Oh yeah. I thought about
Speaker 1: this last night though, because I was like I felt
Speaker 1: a little hurt. Yeah, you know, like that violation you're
Speaker 1: talking about, Like I was like, shame on you, Like
Speaker 1: this is our special time with special people, like good people,
Speaker 1: where we like talk about really deep stuff. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we all share and we all cry and we all laugh.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, you know what, we're getting closer.
Speaker 1: That's all that is. Like when you play in the arena,
Speaker 1: do you ever read the burnet Brown? Is the Teddy
Speaker 1: Roosevelt que quote that she always talks about about when
Speaker 1: you are in the arena. And so this is just
Speaker 1: one of those things where I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: not today say you get out of here. This is
Speaker 1: our special time. Yeah, And I think that's the thing too,
Speaker 1: because I'm like I love going on those tours and
Speaker 1: being so open and like not having the censor because
Speaker 1: I don't censor a lot on here. You know, I
Speaker 1: censor some things that I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: US Weekly. And it wasn't from US Weekly. They're actually
Speaker 1: classier than this other place, um, you know, from this
Speaker 1: other So it's like there's certain things I just don't
Speaker 1: want out there. And so at the shows, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, these are my people. They've they've like,
Speaker 1: there are people they've followed along with us, and so
Speaker 1: they can get a little snippet. I mean, I say
Speaker 1: more of them. I sure out there. We go to
Speaker 1: DC in Philly, I'm like, because I'm like, what, you know,
Speaker 1: what reporter from that trash mag is going to come
Speaker 1: maybe whatever. Yeah, we're going to figure it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've just got to give no more attention to them.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting though, because I was talking to
Speaker 1: Alan and he was just saying, you just honestly can't
Speaker 1: trust anyone, And that like makes me sad, I know,
Speaker 1: because again it's like, I like the fact that we've
Speaker 1: created this really special. It's so special because there's so
Speaker 1: many tears and laughter. It's it's just like that's the
Speaker 1: special is like the best word to put it, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so sacred to me. Yeah, but you also want
Speaker 1: them to feel safe, right, Like I was thinking about
Speaker 1: that one girl in New York who had a very
Speaker 1: personal question to ask if that were to be And
Speaker 1: I know they're just picking up what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: you never know like they I mean, you want our
Speaker 1: people that are there to feel safe to ask questions.
Speaker 1: And that's just fair. And that's what makes it so
Speaker 1: cool out there is that they do feel that way,
Speaker 1: and we feel that way. Like I don't talk about
Speaker 1: hardly anything personal really like oh gosh, but when I'm
Speaker 1: out there, I say a couple, okay, and that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we let it, We let it fly and ride because
Speaker 1: we're just we can just have fun and it can
Speaker 1: safe yes yeah to say yeah very girlfriend dye. And
Speaker 1: it's like we want people to feel say to that
Speaker 1: and yeah during our Q and A is when that
Speaker 1: a few of those questions were asked. But it's like, again,
Speaker 1: I felt safe to just be silly and fun and
Speaker 1: also and so do you guys, And so it's just
Speaker 1: I was like that was so disappointed, I know, but
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Speaker 1: since we're it's a hot topic which freaks me out. Oh,
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Speaker 1: number one. We're just gonna go because this is let's
Speaker 1: gets sent to us. Kelsey beller recalls sleeping on the
Speaker 1: couch and many a night and mid marriage issues with
Speaker 1: Morgan Evans. Kelsey Bellerini's reflecting on the painful moments that
Speaker 1: led to her split from fellow country star Morgan Evans.
Speaker 1: She went on call her daddy, who are you guys?
Speaker 1: I'm like so obsessed with Alexander Alexander Cooper, So we
Speaker 1: follow each other on Instagram and like sometimes I liked you. EMM,
Speaker 1: she doesn't see him or she doesn't choose. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I just I love her. I think she's so she's
Speaker 1: like a Barbara Walter's vibe, like a cool vibe where
Speaker 1: she goes there and I love it. And but she's
Speaker 1: like the new Age. Okay, do you have thoughts? I
Speaker 1: hate this topic. Okay, well then I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: going so interesting. In a clip from episode, Ballerini took
Speaker 1: work for a long time, or call sleepless nights. I think, what?
Speaker 1: I what? What? The one the thing that I ended up,
Speaker 1: which she said was she She mentioned that he took
Speaker 1: half the house that he didn't pay for, and she
Speaker 1: she was shocked, and I'm trying not to misquote, but
Speaker 1: basically that the person, how did she not know that
Speaker 1: that existed in that person? That, um, what's the word?
Speaker 1: Guys like out here he's all like him, the fact
Speaker 1: that he could take half the house that he didn't buy,
Speaker 1: so that he That's what she said, And I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find the quote exactly, but i didn't see it
Speaker 1: in here. I think it was on the podcast, like
Speaker 1: she felt blindsided by like it was that it was
Speaker 1: an actual quote that she said on the thing, So
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I quote it, but
Speaker 1: she just said that she didn't she felt so how
Speaker 1: could he take half the house like that? That he
Speaker 1: had that character to take half of the How did
Speaker 1: she not know that before? And uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I could definitely relate in a way where there
Speaker 1: was a lot of anger. Obviously when I divorced my X,
Speaker 1: I'm like having to pay alimony or a lump sum,
Speaker 1: and then now I pay him child support. That's hard,
Speaker 1: and that anger has subsided because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's like I just have to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's for my kids. Now having said that, it's it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. Also, I look at it and go, okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is what happens in divorce. Unfortunately this sucks. And
Speaker 1: whether he paid half or or you know, um or didn't,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't think my X was
Speaker 1: entitled everything that he got. But unfortunately that was, you know,
Speaker 1: the what happened. And you know, the I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to court fight a post up and because
Speaker 1: yes she had a pre nup post up, that's stuff
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, doesn't really go in court.
Speaker 1: So when I remember fighting with my um with Max
Speaker 1: about He's like, I'm going to fight the post up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but you know, my lawyer is like,
Speaker 1: well he technically could win. I'm like, then why sign
Speaker 1: a paper if it's not even gonna work, you know.
Speaker 1: So but one day it's like, all right, It's like,
Speaker 1: I'd rather what spend a year fighting in court or
Speaker 1: just pay them and you know, pay child support whatever,
Speaker 1: cut my losses. My issue with the whole thing. And
Speaker 1: I've said this, I've even said this to you when
Speaker 1: you were frustrated with yours. If the roles were reversed,
Speaker 1: men do that all the time for women. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna Devil's advocate with you this though. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: I have my kids seventy percent, so you would think
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have to pay that much child for
Speaker 1: child support. But I'm talking about paying half the house. Oh,
Speaker 1: but that's that's where I just think in that area.
Speaker 1: So yeah, my anger probably lies more with like child support.
Speaker 1: So with that, I agree, like, yeah, it's a marital asset.
Speaker 1: It's just how the cookie crumbles with that. It is,
Speaker 1: but it is and child support, I mean again, yeah
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, on the other foot, if
Speaker 1: it was fifty fifty, right, if it's fifty fifty and
Speaker 1: someone can't afford to pay to live that lifestyle, man
Speaker 1: or woman, That's my thing is I think it should
Speaker 1: be treated the same man or woman, and I think
Speaker 1: we naturally when it's the woman happening to pay off
Speaker 1: the man, it just feels different. And I even think,
Speaker 1: I mean even Nick has said this before. He's like,
Speaker 1: it just feels different when it's a man taking a
Speaker 1: woman's money. And I'm like, but it's how is it different?
Speaker 1: Because there's a Because I've talked to a few guys
Speaker 1: about this. He's like, I wouldn't. There's a I would
Speaker 1: never take your money. Yeah, that's what Nick says too.
Speaker 1: And even like you know whatever, he would say, like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. If we were, I would never, But you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't know at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: someone's in that situation what they're going to Actually you don't.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the days too, that's tricky. Well,
Speaker 1: And when it comes to money, like I think you
Speaker 1: get in panic mode. I mean, I remember when we
Speaker 1: were going we hadn't even filed and we were going
Speaker 1: through all these things. I was in panic mode. Am
Speaker 1: I going to be able to afford my bills? Am
Speaker 1: I going to be able to afford? And I threatened
Speaker 1: to take things that I normally would not do. But
Speaker 1: I think you just have to recognize that, like for
Speaker 1: the person that makes less money, it is scary, and
Speaker 1: I think, man or woman, it's scary, and you don't
Speaker 1: know what was tabled on the back end or inside
Speaker 1: of the marriage for that person to make less money, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I make a lot of less money than my husband,
Speaker 1: but you know, if that was to be our situation,
Speaker 1: I would need I mean I've tabled. I've been a
Speaker 1: stay at a mom, not saying Morgan was a stay
Speaker 1: at home dad, but like there's just so much even
Speaker 1: in the career in industry that like we the three
Speaker 1: of us, will never know what happened inside the house.
Speaker 1: She continued to go on with the career, and you know, well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I don't there's so much speculation, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like there's two sides, and then there's the truth,
Speaker 1: three sides, right, and then there's two sides of the truth.
Speaker 1: And so I can relate in understand and have empathy
Speaker 1: for her on the side where she's worked her ass
Speaker 1: off where and it's hard when someone walks away with
Speaker 1: something of their hard work. So it's like when I
Speaker 1: had to write the check to Mike, I'm like, it
Speaker 1: was painful because I've never worked harder in the last
Speaker 1: few years. And it's like I gave you, like what
Speaker 1: this is so not fair and you sat and played
Speaker 1: video games and you know, and I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: wasn't not doing anything, either Morgan or whatever, but like
Speaker 1: that's I feel that my ex. Yeah, Like I was like,
Speaker 1: are you kid? Is this for real? Right? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: you would think that they would have more character to
Speaker 1: say or but again that's where it's like the white,
Speaker 1: black and white of divorce is. Well, they are technically owed,
Speaker 1: not owed, but that's as an asset. Yeah, it's also
Speaker 1: tricky because when this all happened, Morgan came out pretty
Speaker 1: quickly with a single that was his heart on a
Speaker 1: piece of paper, and he's saying this ballad I believe
Speaker 1: about the divorce indirectly about the divorce, and Kelsey kind
Speaker 1: of just laid loaf from what eyewitness. Again, I haven't
Speaker 1: been scrolling. This is difficult because we're friends with both
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, so I only I've never I met
Speaker 1: Morgan once twice I know, obviously more Kelsey. Yeah. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just tricky for me because I like them both
Speaker 1: and love I love them both individually, and I don't know, truthfully,
Speaker 1: like hand on Bible, I don't know the ins and
Speaker 1: outs of any of this. I just know that I've
Speaker 1: always loved and supported Kelsey. My husband is friends with
Speaker 1: Morgan and knows that he's a really great dude, and
Speaker 1: so I've and we're not like this isn't a side
Speaker 1: thing anyways. I just really love the shot of her.
Speaker 1: But I have I think what's hard is that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's getting like stirred back up again
Speaker 1: because now she's come out with this project that is well,
Speaker 1: so I don't think it's the project. So I think
Speaker 1: because I remember I saw Morgan's DM or not Morgan
Speaker 1: Morgan's post about you know, basically her call, everyone's thinking like, well,
Speaker 1: you release songs, she can release EP. It's not the
Speaker 1: EP that's the issue. It's what she said on called
Speaker 1: her daddy. Yeah, that is stirring things up for because
Speaker 1: it's I mean again basically calling him out for taking
Speaker 1: something that he didn't pay for it. Well, the blind
Speaker 1: sided piece of all of it has been a big
Speaker 1: talking point. So do you think it's Do you think
Speaker 1: her going on there and saying that was the right move?
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a right or wrong. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: would say that she has a lot of good people
Speaker 1: around her that I would think would advise her if
Speaker 1: they didn't think that that was something that needed to
Speaker 1: be done. Likes too, She has such a she is isolated,
Speaker 1: well good Both of them actually have really good friends
Speaker 1: and people around them that I don't think would allow
Speaker 1: them to do anything that would be like, I don't
Speaker 1: think she did it to be hurtful, is my gut.
Speaker 1: Probably feels good to get some truth out there, her
Speaker 1: own truth, because she didn't say too much after it
Speaker 1: all happened. She kind of just girl gained hard and
Speaker 1: then hung out, which I think you can. I think
Speaker 1: you can relate a little bit, you know, to wanting
Speaker 1: to get your truth out there. Yeah. I think they're
Speaker 1: taking a minute to do it too, which I like
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of people are like, oh, she's trashing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think it's I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's anger because of course she's angry, just like
Speaker 1: I was angry. Yeah, And so that piece if that's
Speaker 1: and like he said, if that's your way appealing, then
Speaker 1: go for it. Well, it also is hard because it's
Speaker 1: like he releases this song, she doesn't say much. She
Speaker 1: continues to be successful, So like, I know, that's one
Speaker 1: speculation that I got when when I got divorced from
Speaker 1: X was that I had gotten this big career and
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about and I moved on and I
Speaker 1: wanted to go dat an artist. It was like all
Speaker 1: these things that were said about me that were untrue.
Speaker 1: But I had to like stomach it and not have
Speaker 1: a place to say it because I just was like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can scream it from the rooftops, does
Speaker 1: that do me any good? Like, I know my truth,
Speaker 1: I know whose I am, I know the story. So
Speaker 1: I had to just stay there. But it's got to
Speaker 1: be a little bit frustrating to watch, to write the check,
Speaker 1: to watch a single come out to hear that would
Speaker 1: be hard, Yeah, and then not have said it yet,
Speaker 1: you know. And from everybody's perception, which is where things
Speaker 1: get slippery, it looks like she's living her best life
Speaker 1: and she's out on tours and she's getting these big things.
Speaker 1: But she's all she's got a new boyfriend and she
Speaker 1: basically said too that she's not single and she's chase
Speaker 1: and yeah, and that's what I mean. I've kind of
Speaker 1: always thought this because we she she's just I mean,
Speaker 1: she's young, and she's learned, she's learning all the lost.
Speaker 1: She is a good person, Like I just want to
Speaker 1: say that out lot. Of course she is. They're both
Speaker 1: good people, I know. And I think the divorce brings
Speaker 1: out anger, it brings out resentment, it brings out all
Speaker 1: of it, and so and both truth want to be hurt.
Speaker 1: And I sent her a little thing just being like,
Speaker 1: just don't let the anger um sting too much because
Speaker 1: it's like that piece was the hardest piece for me
Speaker 1: to to overcome with my X was the paying and
Speaker 1: you know the all I mean, just and what he did,
Speaker 1: and so I think that those those pieces were the
Speaker 1: hardest to get through. And it's like once and you
Speaker 1: have a choice to let that anger sit in you
Speaker 1: and stew over it or move on and just speak
Speaker 1: your truth. But there's a difference, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I speak now in hopes of helping,
Speaker 1: not of hurting and being angry, if that makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like even when I did table talk, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's genuinely because I know, you know, obviously the X
Speaker 1: wasn't too happy about that, but it was also my
Speaker 1: truth and trying to help. And so yeah, everyone has
Speaker 1: a right to their truth, right, I mean they do.
Speaker 1: And public divorces, I just want to go on record, person,
Speaker 1: I never envy ever, because it's just so layered and
Speaker 1: so unfair, and it's so noisy that it's already a
Speaker 1: noisy enough dark enough chapter for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: That just seems unfair, he said. She SAIDs like are tough. Tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Christ and Cavalary reveals she's been approached by a lot
Speaker 1: of married men after Jay cutler divorce breaks down why
Speaker 1: she's not ready for relationship. US Weekly wrote an article
Speaker 1: that since her divorce, clearly I'm already relationship because I'm
Speaker 1: attracting all of these unavailable men and young men and
Speaker 1: young men. I mean, because I think she was hanging
Speaker 1: out with m Tyler Cameron, whose thing is younger. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the things, like props to her for going like
Speaker 1: knowing that she's not ready for a relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: especially if you're still like if you're attracting like those
Speaker 1: kind of people, like I was attracting the same cast
Speaker 1: that I did last year, then obviously something there's something
Speaker 1: in me not wanting to like move forward to the
Speaker 1: next chapter. I think it's great she can recognize that
Speaker 1: and to put it back on her, like literally look
Speaker 1: at her and what she's doing, because I think that's
Speaker 1: hard to do in the moment. Especially. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: you look back and they were all unavailable, and she
Speaker 1: really enjoyed when she was like, I tried younger men,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like I just need someone more
Speaker 1: established and now there's some truth that I can really
Speaker 1: anchor it. I love it. Jinks girl, jinks. Well, the
Speaker 1: younger man aspect is so interesting because they dote on
Speaker 1: the older women and it's so nice to feel like
Speaker 1: a queen. But then at the end of the day
Speaker 1: or just like, it's also got to be hard to
Speaker 1: like in y'all's position, because people know who you are,
Speaker 1: so it's like are they doating? They're doating because you're
Speaker 1: beautiful and they want to be near you, But also
Speaker 1: like there's just so many hidden, ugly agendas too that
Speaker 1: it's got to just be hard to be like is
Speaker 1: this even like you don't want to just discount someone
Speaker 1: because they are young, But at the same time it
Speaker 1: gets tricky because it's like, well, shoot, I mean, do
Speaker 1: you just want to be part of this or no,
Speaker 1: the inside scoop or you know whatever, that's all just
Speaker 1: too many layers I couldn't do well. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's even in friendships too. It's like you want to
Speaker 1: be my friend because right you want my friend, or
Speaker 1: because do you think you can get something out of it,
Speaker 1: or we've dealt with this stuff. I had. We tried
Speaker 1: to look for a nanny because I've never had help,
Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, I think number three
Speaker 1: feels like it might be time to just really recruit someone. Yes,
Speaker 1: and this good for you, Yeah, good for me, But
Speaker 1: it still hasn't happened yet. Because one of these girls
Speaker 1: that reached out was like, has a profile, a public profile?
Speaker 1: Really great? So I insta stoctor or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: and then I found deep, deep, deep down, she has
Speaker 1: another Instagram profile where she's a singer songwriter. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's never gonna work. What are you trying to hit it?
Speaker 1: Hannah in my living here? No, thank you, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the public profile just comes with a lot
Speaker 1: of like layers of all of that stuff and knowing
Speaker 1: what people's intends. I mean, you have to wonder what
Speaker 1: people's intentions are, even if you're not in the public
Speaker 1: eye period, and then you get these kind of things.
Speaker 1: Well I think that's why I was so like, Okay,
Speaker 1: breaking news, don't don then, because you know, obviously set
Speaker 1: their record straight here on this one. I didn't meet
Speaker 1: Alan and Riyah, right, he dmmed me and so I
Speaker 1: ignored it because to me, it's like and I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I have conversations with other like like the
Speaker 1: Christians and who you know where it's like guys will
Speaker 1: DM us right and some with a blue check mark
Speaker 1: those are the ones that we will see you or whatever.
Speaker 1: But that's how you know. I mean, shoot, I met
Speaker 1: my ex husband on Twitter like he tweeted me or whatever.
Speaker 1: Me slid into my whatever, So uh, I you know
Speaker 1: that's just another dating app, I guess for And I've
Speaker 1: slid into guys dms before, Like I'm not above saying that,
Speaker 1: Like I've definitely done that too, because if I'm like right,
Speaker 1: if they're not on RYA like that or a dating app,
Speaker 1: what else you got? Right? So it's like either it
Speaker 1: was either riot meeting someone at the grocery store because
Speaker 1: I love to be honest, I don't go out gymnastics
Speaker 1: is not safe, not a safe or DM so like
Speaker 1: you know, we've done freaking Jesse James Decker was like
Speaker 1: the biggest, like she was my h who do you
Speaker 1: want me to DM? So actually I wasn't the one DM.
Speaker 1: It was Jesse like she would DM straight out, so funny,
Speaker 1: like okay, do you think this guy's CTE. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: a DM. So she was like my biggest hype girl
Speaker 1: last year, and so with Alan, when I got his DM,
Speaker 1: I honestly was like, you know, because it was after
Speaker 1: kind of hot girl summer, I was like like, I'm
Speaker 1: not like what saying his DM so honest it's not
Speaker 1: like sleazy, No, not at all. I think I honestly
Speaker 1: don't remember what it said. And I can't remember from
Speaker 1: the king because sometimes the sex messages are so appropriate
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I'm in trouble with
Speaker 1: the queen or something. I don't know it just like
Speaker 1: I would I. He's so like it's the it's just
Speaker 1: the cultural difference, but it's so appropriate that I'm like, gosh,
Speaker 1: if he slid in your DMS, I wonder what it
Speaker 1: was like you were being called to the motherland and
Speaker 1: you had to go, like was it like? Because I
Speaker 1: think one of the time when we were in that's Australian.
Speaker 1: Why did I suck at it? Why I suck at
Speaker 1: his accent? I know? But when when we were on tour,
Speaker 1: one of the things was you said, or he said,
Speaker 1: I will await your call very proper yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was like, also, I feel nervous. He's awaiting quickly get
Speaker 1: on it him love me. I just would have. I
Speaker 1: just like, it's funny because I've seen some of your
Speaker 1: dms that you've gotten from certain suitors as we'll call them.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to fit him, does it. No. I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine what he would say. Well, that's why
Speaker 1: it's so weird, because I would have never expected someone
Speaker 1: like him to d M because it's just he that
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like, how did he know about you?
Speaker 1: So when I that's the question I'm always asking because
Speaker 1: I'm curious because I want to know because other people
Speaker 1: of And then they're like, well I didn't know who
Speaker 1: you were. I'm like, but then I went member that
Speaker 1: one guy that I can't talk about that and that
Speaker 1: one still pisses me off to this day. I won't
Speaker 1: tell you who it was. It is, but there was
Speaker 1: this one guy that I dated and he was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who you were. And so then
Speaker 1: when we started to date, I look in my I
Speaker 1: look at him on Instagram, go in the dms, and
Speaker 1: he had DM to me a few times and I like,
Speaker 1: so then you did know who I was, Okay, but
Speaker 1: also we believed his excuse for that. You know, I
Speaker 1: know that was when I was there was a few
Speaker 1: of us. I didn't, but a few people did. I
Speaker 1: think I took where I stood. Pretty sure you you
Speaker 1: bought into it. We're crazy anyway, so you don't know, okay,
Speaker 1: but you're also like beautiful. That's the thing I have
Speaker 1: to say. So like when people are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know who she is, Like if I've seen somebody
Speaker 1: at the grocery store that's hot, I'm going to just
Speaker 1: DM them. No, I'm just saying like I always assume
Speaker 1: there's somebody, especially in Nashville. Like I'm always like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, like, you don't look
Speaker 1: at Jana's profile. So he two million followers and no,
Speaker 1: because he originally said that he didn't, he didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pants up here when I say, I just came up
Speaker 1: on his feet, which I don't know how which one
Speaker 1: said that? Allen? Okay, Yeah, so I came up on
Speaker 1: his speed and he he must have looked at my profile,
Speaker 1: didn't not knowing who I was. But then he yeah
Speaker 1: DMed me and said I again, I don't remember, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have it either, but it said something like
Speaker 1: you knows been requested. It was something to the sort
Speaker 1: of you look like a great mom, and you know,
Speaker 1: I would love to get to know you or something.
Speaker 1: At the time, I was past hawk Grow summer and
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not, like, yeah, I'm not like you'd
Speaker 1: been trappling everywhere everywhere? What's the point? Like I kind
Speaker 1: of went through that whole little like m hmm, and so,
Speaker 1: but then, you know, something about it just kind of
Speaker 1: kept kind of thinking like maybe something kind of kept
Speaker 1: drawing me back there. So eventually, obviously I reached out.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know what's interesting is I'm like,
Speaker 1: did you like me because I blew you off? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's okay because he's such a good looking dude.
Speaker 1: They probably you know husband, I was like, not in
Speaker 1: breast and I bought him a drink and he was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on right now? I think that's and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't kiss him. Yeah, guys like that, that's normal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actual normal behavior. Yeah. Having said that, I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask Alan how he knew about you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: should shake him, shake him down little bit on that one.
Speaker 1: I mean again, he says, I just popped up on
Speaker 1: his just popped up, But I mean I do. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the rest of how maybe in another time.
Speaker 1: But that is how I actually met him. And the
Speaker 1: only reason I say that, Why did I go into
Speaker 1: that whole damning thing. Kristen didn't mean to ryah or
Speaker 1: to meet people, and it's hard. It's just hard to
Speaker 1: meet people. So it's like you gotta you gotta, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: throw everything kind of at the wall and see what sticks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or across the ponds like work, just like work, or
Speaker 1: across the pond talking across the pond. No, I just
Speaker 1: but at the same incontinent anymore. So we know we
Speaker 1: had a problem. I was ready to date though, like
Speaker 1: after all that stuff, yeah, and after we were ready
Speaker 1: for you to dang chill and having actual alone time,
Speaker 1: swear alone time for sure. I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a really good place and
Speaker 1: ready and then it Then that's when it showed up.
Speaker 1: So it will for her too, because she's studying and
Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah, yeah, hey everyone, it's Dean Anglert
Speaker 1: and Kaylen Miller Keys and Jared Haven I'm I'm here.
Speaker 1: I'm here too, guys, hosts of the new podcast Help
Speaker 1: We Suck at Being Newlyweds? Because I guess we just
Speaker 1: don't suck at dating anymore. No, I mean you're newlyweds.
Speaker 1: I am not a newlywed anymore. Yeah, I'm curious if
Speaker 1: I sucked at being a newlywed. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean I made it to the altar, and I
Speaker 1: am so happy to be joining you, guys. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to talk about relationships, marriage, and just everything in between.
Speaker 1: It's about time we have someone smart to join this podcast.
Speaker 1: It's too long between us. This young lady's a broadcast
Speaker 1: journalism major. She knows what she's doing. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to be hosting a podcast with my soon to be
Speaker 1: wife and of course my best friend Jared. How's that
Speaker 1: going to make you feel? Working together now? You guys
Speaker 1: live together, we're together, going to get married. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting. You think you need to get tired of
Speaker 1: each other? Absolutely? Yes. Be sure to listen to Help
Speaker 1: We Suck At Being Newlyweds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, dude, I'm David
Speaker 1: Lasher and I'm Christine Taylor, and we host the podcast
Speaker 1: Hey Dude the Nineties called if you all are nostalgic
Speaker 1: for the nineties, We just wanted to make sure you
Speaker 1: didn't miss amazing guests like the Brady Bunch cast reunion,
Speaker 1: the White Squall Cast reunion with Jeff Bridges. We've got
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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. Moving on hot topics,
Speaker 1: it makes me feel really in the know when we
Speaker 1: do hot topics because these little, sweet young things. Chris
Speaker 1: Jenner sixty seven has no plans to ever marry Corey
Speaker 1: Gamble forty two younger guy because she knows things would
Speaker 1: not end well if they got divorced. After she sparked
Speaker 1: engagement rumor Frenzy the Diamond Ring photo. I'm Chris Jenner.
Speaker 1: If my heart gets broken, never remarried. I'm over. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out exactly what she means it
Speaker 1: would not end well if they got divorced in what way? Well,
Speaker 1: maybe he knows too much financially too well, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean she would be because she can't be
Speaker 1: in the inner circles exactly what she wants with him
Speaker 1: right now. And when you're kind of at that age
Speaker 1: you have kids, it's like it's almost like I saw
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson too, She's like, no plans to rush to
Speaker 1: get married. Yeah, I am such an obviously, like I
Speaker 1: love I want the fairy tale and the wedding and
Speaker 1: the being married. I think that like sanctity of sanctity
Speaker 1: of marriage is like I love that. But when you're
Speaker 1: sixty seven, it's kind of like I'm Chris Jenner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what about him? Has he ever been married? He's
Speaker 1: forty some years old. I mean, well he didn't marry
Speaker 1: her to that baby. I'm kind of feeling and I
Speaker 1: can see where she wouldn't want to get married one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Her age, her money situation, like all the
Speaker 1: things that gets complicated understood. I'm sure, who is pivoting
Speaker 1: on me and me having to really think Christian If
Speaker 1: your Corey gamble, he's fine, he's living. You may want
Speaker 1: to get married if it was Flip, if he had
Speaker 1: an older man, I bet you a bunch of money.
Speaker 1: I bet you she would. You guys together would maybe
Speaker 1: maybe if it was something that was actually really important
Speaker 1: to him. Now It's not like I feel bad for
Speaker 1: this guy or anything. But at the same time, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: It's not having kids. Does he wait? How how long
Speaker 1: have they been together? It's years it's been a ye. Oh,
Speaker 1: then been together since twenty fifteen. Oh wow, yeah, so
Speaker 1: eight years at that time. And yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: know she'd be a beautiful bride. I kind of would
Speaker 1: love to see that, like love story. Oh, I would
Speaker 1: love to see her in address or whatever. She'd pick
Speaker 1: some sort of power suit, probably like carry branch that
Speaker 1: that would be fun. No, I'm just curious how he
Speaker 1: feels about it. Obviously he's fine and live in the
Speaker 1: good life. He's just always making me think. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care how any things. I'm never marrying again.
Speaker 1: I just put my so you said that on tour.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. I don't think I would, and
Speaker 1: I would have. I think i'd build up commune with
Speaker 1: my best friends. I raised our babies together because I
Speaker 1: have a backup plan with my best friend of Michigan.
Speaker 1: That's what we'll do. What the world, We just would
Speaker 1: raise our kids together. If you would just yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your Alan or whoever it is you're
Speaker 1: gonna be. We do know that you just said that.
Speaker 1: Megan Fox says no cheating was involved in the MGK
Speaker 1: relationship as she returns to Instagram. So she deleted all
Speaker 1: she deleted Instagram deleted all. Well, first she deleted all
Speaker 1: the photos of her and him, of her and him,
Speaker 1: which I've done before. Yeah, and then come back with
Speaker 1: my tail between my life. The old clean up was
Speaker 1: really a it's damage control. It's damage control. I get it.
Speaker 1: It's hard to come back. The problem is is when
Speaker 1: you have so much out there and then you get
Speaker 1: hurt and then you see that it's like that's the
Speaker 1: initial like f you, But unfortunately it creates a public
Speaker 1: chit storm, shit storm, And that's basically what just happened.
Speaker 1: Do you think he cheated? Do you think they just
Speaker 1: got into a fight. What is y'all stance? I mean,
Speaker 1: I hate to make an assumption about something I know
Speaker 1: nothing about, but I'm gonna go if you cheated, who's
Speaker 1: cheating on Megan Fox? Who's cheating on Janna Kramer? Who's
Speaker 1: cheating on plenty of people? Not me? Um? I seriously,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of wonder, can I
Speaker 1: just say something? I might really start a pot? Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 1: Was it ever real? Yeah? You think it was real?
Speaker 1: For sure? That one was real? I know, I know
Speaker 1: someone that worked on a film. Yes, absolutely so it
Speaker 1: was real. Yeah, because at first I was like, is
Speaker 1: this salt? Because it's so extra drink your blood, kiss
Speaker 1: your lips that I get like very like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is very showy for me, and I'm kind of out.
Speaker 1: I think they got into a fight. Obviously they were leaving.
Speaker 1: They were left. They were they were photographed leaving a
Speaker 1: couple's therapy session. Oh well, that makes they really like them, right,
Speaker 1: they love therapy. I think it does. It makes the
Speaker 1: humanizing them a little bit. The drinking the blood part
Speaker 1: gets weird for me. I think there's uh some truth
Speaker 1: to some things that are said, like that maybe there
Speaker 1: was a DM and maybe she didn't like something that
Speaker 1: she saw. I think a boundary was crossed in some way.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. That's not obviously there's
Speaker 1: something happened for her to delete the photos and then
Speaker 1: for her to get off Instagram ned her to come
Speaker 1: back on and talk about the guitar player the other girl.
Speaker 1: I have mad respect for that because she could just
Speaker 1: let her burn whether something happened or didn't happen, I
Speaker 1: have like I think that's very classy of her to
Speaker 1: come back and say I liked that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: she was not involved in this because it's not fair
Speaker 1: because if she really truly wasn't it's not fair for
Speaker 1: her to get dragged in a shot store. No no no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, so and if she was the way, that's
Speaker 1: big on her either way. Yeah. Yeah, the way that
Speaker 1: she worded it was great. So I I personally like that,
Speaker 1: And I think again, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: relationships are hard. Something probably happened, and it's just again
Speaker 1: it's hard being in the public eye and then and
Speaker 1: then doing having that emotional I'm going to delete everything
Speaker 1: and then all that stuff, like, I get it, I've
Speaker 1: done it. This may be my forty year old forty
Speaker 1: one year old mom brain have nothing. But isn't this
Speaker 1: the same person that actively went on Instagram and said
Speaker 1: she was looking for a girlfriend for her and her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: What didn't Megan Fox do that? Wasn't it her saying
Speaker 1: DM me, if you want to be a brother, probably
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need someone to check that because I feel
Speaker 1: like if we're gonna start getting worried about dams, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna need some consistency. That's all I'm asking for.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm pretty sure they looked for a girlfriend. Okay.
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing about all this, because
Speaker 1: a part of me is like I always hate when
Speaker 1: people speculate and feel like they can come into our lives.
Speaker 1: I personally feel like it's being done right now in
Speaker 1: a classy way that we're not We're not hating on it,
Speaker 1: We're not being mean to anybody. We're just having conversations
Speaker 1: that bring up topics of conversation as we also have
Speaker 1: to be in the know about topics. If something happened,
Speaker 1: would you what happen? Yeah? Megan Fox is okay for
Speaker 1: a girlfriend on Instagram? She took to Instagram on Friday,
Speaker 1: December thirty just to December thirty d December two months
Speaker 1: ago of what year. That's all I'm saying. Did she
Speaker 1: was she being serious? I don't know. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really good engagement, so I
Speaker 1: was like, good for you to get those numbers up.
Speaker 1: Maybe she wasn't being serious, doesn't matter. Currently she's pretty
Speaker 1: submit applications in the DMS. I think it came from
Speaker 1: something else. I don't think, because I'm pretty sure she's Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that. But I'm also just like,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta lay a real timeline now, right, Yeah, anyhow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also the industry is hard, like can we just
Speaker 1: all agree that, like public entertainment, music, actress, all of it.
Speaker 1: It's just really a lot more layer than people understand.
Speaker 1: And I also think too, and this is something that
Speaker 1: there's so many beautiful people out there that it's easy
Speaker 1: to get a little shady when the boundaries aren't good.
Speaker 1: So Alan and I were talking and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just make sure there are such clear boundaries. And
Speaker 1: he is the one that brought up which I loved
Speaker 1: that that way, like there's no like, well, how did
Speaker 1: you not know that D that this is not okay,
Speaker 1: or that dmor or this that the other. So there's
Speaker 1: no like literally no blurn lines good Like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like you want to have an absolutely yeah,
Speaker 1: Like let's because I think that's like the part where
Speaker 1: it gets a little shady and like hazy in relationships
Speaker 1: is because you don't think. Like the other time we
Speaker 1: were talking about not knowing what the person likes, who
Speaker 1: doesn't like it's not no, actually that's not good too.
Speaker 1: I don't want you doing that. That's not right respectful
Speaker 1: what I think is respectful or disrespectful. You might disagree, right,
Speaker 1: and there may be something that doesn't bother you, but
Speaker 1: that would bother him. Right, there's a lot that like
Speaker 1: doesn't bother you that really bothers me. Like what, uh well, no,
Speaker 1: we've already talked about it on here before. But just
Speaker 1: like that, you could make out with someone and then
Speaker 1: hand him to another friend. Like that's my favorite thing
Speaker 1: in the world to do. I want everyone to find
Speaker 1: their person. Yeah, you're like a great kisser. Not for me,
Speaker 1: but here this guy and I'm always just like, how
Speaker 1: do they do that? That is I can't do it.
Speaker 1: That's probably something in some therapist for he wants to
Speaker 1: dig into it, wants to get him off for back.
Speaker 1: Do you rebound them? Is that what that is? Some
Speaker 1: sort of like professional rebounder? Huh? Like you just you
Speaker 1: give them a rebound somebody to move on to or
Speaker 1: could be their person. I'm not giving a way out enough. No,
Speaker 1: that's how we know. So there was an interesting TikTok
Speaker 1: that went on Holly lamp here. I probably butchered that.
Speaker 1: So he basically her TikTok was her her husband cheated
Speaker 1: and she wants clarification and advice. So her husband had affair.
Speaker 1: He won't tell her who it is. He's admitted to
Speaker 1: it because she caught him keywords, she caught him. He
Speaker 1: had her number saved under a different name in his
Speaker 1: tex So she doesn't who it is and he refuses
Speaker 1: to tell her. He says that he's doing her a
Speaker 1: favor because he doesn't want her to know the details,
Speaker 1: and he says the details are not important. He just
Speaker 1: wants to have her forgiveness. Her point is she needs
Speaker 1: to know the truth in order to process and heal.
Speaker 1: Is she wrong for wanting to know? No? Nope, he
Speaker 1: I think there might be some truth to that. It
Speaker 1: is protection for her, but she is not going to
Speaker 1: know that. She's not going to understand that, and she's
Speaker 1: she's not dingo who it is? Is it the babysitter
Speaker 1: she might dri later is yeah? I mean yeah, like
Speaker 1: cousin gross, I just I think he doesn't get to
Speaker 1: choose that. No. Again, I think he could say, I
Speaker 1: think this is going to hurt you worse, but this
Speaker 1: is your choice, and then she has to be willing
Speaker 1: to deal with the consequences of knowing everything. I agree
Speaker 1: with that a lot also, And also I think there's levels,
Speaker 1: not levels, uh, there's certain things she should ask about,
Speaker 1: in certain things she shouldn't. So I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: know who the affair girls were, and it sucks sometimes
Speaker 1: that I'm like, in the past, I didn't know who
Speaker 1: they were and drove me crazy. And so with this situation,
Speaker 1: if it's you know, he obviously knows who it is,
Speaker 1: I think he should tell her. But also after that,
Speaker 1: the details, like that's the stuff I wish I could
Speaker 1: unburn out of my brain because I saw way too much.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like, I M so traumatic. I just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like you don't. You don't trust me. You do
Speaker 1: not want to know? How many times? Where was it at?
Speaker 1: What was it? Like? Did did she? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I was I would ask like, that's where we're a
Speaker 1: lot alike. Yeah, could someone have convinced you of that
Speaker 1: at the time though, yeah, by therapist in so I
Speaker 1: stopped asking, oh good, yeah, because I would literally be like,
Speaker 1: how did she do it? Like you know, did you come?
Speaker 1: Did you you know? And so one intended I didn't like,
Speaker 1: but I mean I hear you. Yeah. So it's like
Speaker 1: those details because because then then now you have a
Speaker 1: picture and a movie be in your brain that you
Speaker 1: will replay over and over and over no matter what
Speaker 1: I know. But the less details of certain for me personally,
Speaker 1: the less details, and the therapist said the same thing,
Speaker 1: the less details are actually it's it's more helpful to
Speaker 1: not ruminate on because it's just it's just it's not
Speaker 1: it's it's not great. Having said that, I do think
Speaker 1: she deserves to know, like who it is, Yeah, whether
Speaker 1: he knows who it is or not, because that's a thing,
Speaker 1: Like he might be like, I don't I don't remember
Speaker 1: a last name because I was a few of them too.
Speaker 1: I would just be thinking it was every girl that
Speaker 1: I ever came in contact with, you, right, exactly what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's the neighbor down the street. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: trust anybody. It's a teacher, it's a well, if that's hard,
Speaker 1: I feel for her. I just hope that I just like,
Speaker 1: I hate it because it's just the worst feeling. And also,
Speaker 1: let me just say this, and this is something that
Speaker 1: I thought of too when I saw it, and something
Speaker 1: that you know dealt with with X is is no
Speaker 1: matter what they tell you, a, are you really gonna
Speaker 1: believe him anyways? No, because it's not like they came
Speaker 1: to you and told you about the affair, right, So
Speaker 1: they're obviously not very honest, trustworthy people. They're not dupids.
Speaker 1: So it's not like whatever they're telling you, expect it
Speaker 1: to not be one hundred percent of the truth, right true?
Speaker 1: So really, what's the like you're not going to really
Speaker 1: get the truth? If he could easily make it up,
Speaker 1: that's a thing. It's like he's already a liar. And
Speaker 1: that's when I'm just like, well, I don't try that.
Speaker 1: That's what I told, you know, I've told people and
Speaker 1: obviously Alan's like I can't come back from the mistrust
Speaker 1: because my brain goes MS too much. Yeah, no, too much. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 1: way to end it on a high note. High note,
Speaker 1: that was fun. Though it was so fun guys. Oh,
Speaker 1: which just makes me feel real current when we talk
Speaker 1: about current events. Uh huh, like actually don't feel like
Speaker 1: I live under a rock. Under a rock. Can send
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