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Speaker 2: This is those amigos, and honestly so and the last

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Speaker 2: your book, and I am grateful that you wrote this

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Speaker 2: one because there is so much about making money that

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Speaker 2: read or listen to your books. I kind of already

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Speaker 2: know what this book is about. I love that you

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Speaker 2: like you know how you drive it to be this.

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Speaker 3: Because money robs people of their joy. Money if you

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Speaker 3: have a wounded relationship with it, robs people of relationship,

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Speaker 3: you fund my project? He's had that for twenty five

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Speaker 3: But when I when I started making money. Kids from

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Speaker 1: And it exposed the other stuff you hated about. Society

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Speaker 2: And this is like my younger self speaking because immediately

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Speaker 2: Do I show enough colorspecass, you know, to feel like

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Wow, what about what's the first response? My first

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Speaker 4: I think with me, I had I had children at

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Speaker 1: Right the moment that I stopped looking at my bank.

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Speaker 3: And the freedom comes from healing. Yeah, if you're out

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Speaker 3: If you're out of alignment, that means there's a wound somewhere.

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Speaker 3: And if you're out of alignment, you're scarce around money.

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Speaker 3: You're chasing it, You're needing, You're looking to see how

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Speaker 2: And in many ways, and I said, in many ways

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Speaker 2: It's not like I I'm privileged because blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough for me to receive because I

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Speaker 3: Because generosity is part of creating abundance, and so it's gratitude,

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Speaker 3: You're literally you're looking making it is making. And then

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Speaker 1: This is so.

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Speaker 3: It's learning how to create the expansion of the environment

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Speaker 2: be a prisoner to have to make it right. It's like,

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Speaker 2: it's how you kind of frame it, and what I'm

436
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Speaker 2: taking and what I'm learning from what you're saying is

437
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: really that it's how is how is the outlook on

438
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 2: the act of making money that actually dictates whether you're

439
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Speaker 2: going to be successful or not?

440
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Speaker 3: You know.

441
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Speaker 2: And the first thing you got to say, I mean,

442
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: like I had my own very humble version, and you know,

443
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: what you have kind of taught me today is is

444
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: really your own personal perspective on like what you receive

445
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: and your personal perspective about how you spend it. But

446
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: most importantly, how you hold space for this money. Yes,

447
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like it is now I'm free

448
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: to make this money as opposed to like I have

449
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: to make this money.

450
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's so hard when you need the money.

451
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: So hard, right, And that's the time we need to

452
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: learn how to expand and feel safe even though you're scarce.

453
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: Because there's four ways of living life with money, four

454
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: different types of relationship. I don't know which time we have.

455
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Speaker 3: It's just good.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is now going to be two episodes.

457
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Speaker 3: Okay, there's four different ways to live life with money

458
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: in relationship to money, and I've lived all for of them.

459
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you guys probably have as well, but we'll see.

460
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: The first one is being financially broke and emotionally broken. Essentially,

461
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: financially scarce, I have no money, I'm on my sister's couch,

462
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: three credit cards, student loan, debt broke. That's financially scarce

463
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: and emotionally scarce. I have no purpose. I'm broken spiritually,

464
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: my dream is over. I have an injury. I don't

465
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: know what to do with my life. I'm emotionally and

466
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: financially scarce. That's level one. No One wants to live

467
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: like that, saying why am I here? And I have

468
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 3: no money to do anything with the second phase is

469
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: financially broke but emotionally abundant. This was phase two for

470
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: me on my sister's couch. After about six months of

471
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: feeling depressed and sad and down on myself, I was like,

472
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: how do I get off this couch. I need to

473
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: start creating a game plan. I need to find some mentors,

474
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: some coaches. I need to address my fears and start

475
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: overcoming those fears. Once I start overcoming these fears, one

476
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: of them was learning how to read and write literally

477
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: because I had a poor reading level all through school.

478
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: So I wrote a book, my first book self published.

479
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: I found a mentor who was a writer and he

480
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 3: coached me on how to write a book. We wrote

481
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: it together. I gained confidence, I gained skills. I overcame

482
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: a fear and that gave me encouragement and I felt

483
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: more abundant. I was like, Okay, I can do this.

484
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: Second thing was learning how to speak in public. I

485
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: could not speak in public to save my life. I

486
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: went to Toastmasters every week for a year and practice

487
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: public speaking, which is a class on public speaking, and

488
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: it was horrible for the six months. For six months,

489
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: but it got better every single week and I felt

490
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: more empowered, so my energy shifted. The third one was

491
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: salsa dancing. I was terrified of salt dance.

492
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I've seen himself the dance. It's unbelievable.

493
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Speaker 2: Really, Oh yes, he can get out better than by

494
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: the way, a lot of Latinos.

495
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Speaker 4: I know, yes, absolutely, my heart next week.

496
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: And I went salsa dancing three or four times a

497
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Speaker 3: week to overcome this fear. I mean, you're a gringo

498
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: in a culture of Latinos, listening to Latin music, listening

499
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 3: to people speak Spanish. It felt like a different world.

500
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: When I would go to the salsa club, right and

501
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: I for the first three months I would go out.

502
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Speaker 3: This is when I was just broken doing nothing. I

503
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: would just sit in the corner like a creeper, you know,

504
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: just watching people dancing, because I was like, this is

505
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: fascinating and it's himidating. At the same time, ugaraways grew

506
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: up like this right Puerto Rico specifically, You're like, you know,

507
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: everyone's saws to dancing. And eventually I went out in

508
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: the dance bar, girl grabbed me and brought me out

509
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: there and I was like horrible, but I was like, Okay,

510
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: I've overcome the fear, now let me go on in. Yeah.

511
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: For the next year, I obsessed over salsa dancing and

512
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: that gave me confidence, gave me courage. So I had

513
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: this like richness inside of me. It was overcoming all

514
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: my fears. I was building skills. I was like feeling

515
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: good about myself, but I was still broke on my

516
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: sister's couch. So that's level two emotionally abundant, feeling empowered,

517
00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: financially scarce. The third level is financially rich, having success financially,

518
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: but emotionally scarce. After about five six years, I started

519
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: making money building a business. I had some coaches. I

520
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: just took extreme action, kind of burning myself out all

521
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: day to make money, and I lost that emotional abundance.

522
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: I used that energy to go create, but then when

523
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: I had money, I started shrinking and started being scarce.

524
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't spend this money. I was

525
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: anxious around the money. I was worried about it. I

526
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: didn't want to lose it because I didn't want to

527
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: go back to the couch. So that abundant energy shifted

528
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: into scarcity even though I had financial richness, and that

529
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: was the level three, And that's almost the worst level

530
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: to live because you have money but you're emotionally poor.

531
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Speaker 2: So was pretty scary because if you forget how you

532
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: made the money because you let go of that other

533
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: side exactly, you know, how do you get back to it?

534
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: Right? It's saying now the fourth level is getting to

535
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: a place of financial freedom. Whatever that looks like. It

536
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be millions of dollars, but you feeling

537
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: like I'm good with my money. I'm not living months

538
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: to month. I feel like I have some flexibility, some options,

539
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: and I have financial piece, but I also have emotional piece.

540
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: I have emotional abundance, and that takes practice. So these

541
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: different levels of being broke financially and broke emotionally broke,

542
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: financially abundant, emotionally rich financially emotionally scarce, to having money

543
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: and being emotionally abundant. It was a journey of like

544
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: learning growing here. First was like I need to make money,

545
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: so let me just work really hard to make it.

546
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: And then it was like I need to feel good

547
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: about myself, but I have the money. It was all

548
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: these different levels that that's one of the reasons why

549
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to write this book. So I was like,

550
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: I have this money, but I made less one year

551
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: and something happened inside of me where it made me

552
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: feel anxious. So every year until three years ago, for

553
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: like fifteen years, I made more money than the year

554
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: before until three years ago, and it did something to me,

555
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: and it was part of the reason why I wanted

556
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: to write this book, because I was making more money,

557
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: but I was worried about the number increasing every year.

558
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's something you've ever felt like, Ah,

559
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: I didn't do as well, then something's wrong with me.

560
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: What do I need to do more? And I was like,

561
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: for six months, I was in a not a darker place,

562
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: but I was like it was stressing me out. I

563
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: was like, I've done really well saving my money, investing

564
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: my money, I have every life insurance, I have like

565
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: every investment account, retirement. I'm like, I'm good.

566
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: Why am I Do you think it was because you

567
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: were investing in your personal stability in life?

568
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: I just think it was I'm so used to seeing

569
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: the number of my business increase every year, and that

570
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: was where my.

571
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: But your currency was going up because I know in

572
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: those last couple of years you're talking about, you would

573
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: really invested in stability.

574
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: Of your home.

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: Exactly was it the dopamine of seeing just think?

576
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: It was like I was so used to like my value.

577
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: My self worth was tied to my net worth and

578
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: a lot of us can become net worth millionaires but

579
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: be broke with self worth. It doesn't mean we're a

580
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: self worth millionaire. That's a different currency, networth versus self worth.

581
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: And again, the guy who committed suicide was a net

582
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: worth mega millionaire, but he was a self worth bankrupt.

583
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Otherwise you wouldn't jump. Yeah,

584
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: if you're a self worth millionaire, it doesn't matter how

585
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: much money you have. You love you, you accept you.

586
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: You know you can handle hard times also and get

587
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: through it like you've got your own back. Even if

588
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: the world's against you, you show up for you. And

589
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: so for six months I was stressed about it, and

590
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: then I was like, I need to do the emotional work.

591
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: Why is this relationship with money holding me back? And

592
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: can I find peace even if I'm making less money

593
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: or if the money's going away in my bank account

594
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: and I was like, I need to step into more

595
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: generosity and more gratitude because that's where the abundance flows. Internally.

596
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: I need to continue to do anything any healing work

597
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: around money wounds. Take myself to money therapy as were

598
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: as that sounds or in la so you guys are

599
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: with it. And that process made me feel at peace.

600
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: I invested more in my relationships and how can I

601
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: expand those relationships and knowing that money is going to

602
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: come when it comes and it's okay if it's up,

603
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: if it's down, I'm at peace. Yeah, But it also

604
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: doesn't mean like never look up my money and blow

605
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: the money however I want. It's like, make sure I

606
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: have a structure an organization and respect money. Don't just

607
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: I don't come whenever it comes. It's like, you still

608
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: have to respect a relationship when it sat down, you

609
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: still need to like good to see you, how are you?

610
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: You know, like give me a hug. You know you

611
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: still have to respect it and be a responsible steward,

612
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: be a steward of it. Absolutely, So that was the

613
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: process for me. It was like, oh, something still off

614
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: inside of me. I need to continue to evolve this

615
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean I've mastered it. It's like a

616
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: constant evolution, but it's a beautiful one when you can

617
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: feel you have inner peace because that is the new rich.

618
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: In your book. So I was filtering through it a

619
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: little bit.

620
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Here you have this quote and every couple of pages

621
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: this is so, this is so red.

622
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: I do that for me because I need big words

623
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: to be able to read. It says.

624
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: In your book you have every couple of you know,

625
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: between some of these chapters, you have a page where

626
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: you have a quote, and it's very striking because it

627
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: kind of reminds you where you are in the learning

628
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: process of your book and as you're getting through it.

629
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: These are things that either questions or things that make

630
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: you reflect. If you never map out your future, you'll

631
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: tend to retrace your past.

632
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that, Well, again, our belief

633
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: system influences our behaviors. Right, If you believe a certain thing,

634
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: it's based on your past, past memories and the meaning

635
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: we give those memories create our beliefs, and our beliefs

636
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: are only from our past. So unless we shape a

637
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: new future, a new vision that the next project I create,

638
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to give full effort, and I'm going to

639
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: appreciate the effort and the process and it doesn't matter

640
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: the results. Sure, I want this result, and I can

641
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: be a little let down if it doesn't hit it,

642
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: but I'm really going to celebrate the day to day

643
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: effort of how I showed up, and that's what's going

644
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: to matter for me in the future. And I'm shifting.

645
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: IM going to start to shift my belief and put

646
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: value in how I show up with gratitude and generosity

647
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: in every interaction daily versus the end result of a project,

648
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: even though I know it takes two years to do

649
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: lots of projects and all this time and energy and money.

650
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to shift my past way of being and

651
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: believing because my behavior influences the results and reacting to

652
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: that's good And when it start saying, you know what,

653
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: me showing up adding value, coming up with my creativity,

654
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: engaging with my team, appreciating my life, appreciating my spouse,

655
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: being there, present as a father. That's where I'm going

656
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: to place my value. And the results. If I'm on

657
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: the red carpet this week are not, It's okay. If

658
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm number one on Netflix or number three, it's okay,

659
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: and putting my value in the daily act of gratitude, generosity, appreciation, giving, receiving,

660
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: presence versus the result. We're shaping a new behavior and

661
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: mapping a new future, and then we can draw that

662
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: future closer to us. We can start bringing it into

663
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: us now because we're believing and behaving differently.

664
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Speaker 1: Or you're going to say.

665
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: No, no, you're saying, it's funny because the conversation we're

666
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: having earlier, you're saying to put the value on who

667
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: you are are as a person as opposed to the

668
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: you know.

669
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Speaker 5: The value coming from the hows.

670
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

671
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to do because I you know, if

672
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: I can go into comparison mode easy, if I wanted to,

673
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: I could be like, I know, I'm adding a lot

674
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: of value in the world. Why is my bank account

675
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: not reflecting it? When someone might be doing some trash

676
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: stuff and they have a lot more money. But I'm

677
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: playing a different game when I go into that space

678
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: versus the value is the impact. The value is in

679
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: being creative. It's and being able to express my art.

680
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: It's not in the amount that Netflix or Apple or

681
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 3: Disney paid me for the bank That's just so hard

682
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: to do when you when you could compare and ask

683
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: your friends, oh, you made that much for this thing?

684
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: You made that much I should be making. It's like

685
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: the ego goes quickly into why didn't I make that much?

686
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Is it because I'm an immigrant? You know, it's like

687
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: going all these things. Yeah, you could definitely, I'm not

688
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: pretty enough, were talented enough of this?

689
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: It's easier to find a villain of course, then actually

690
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: self you know, self accountability and in reflection right like this, it's.

691
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Speaker 4: Kind of like in our industry, I guess the equivalent

692
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: of that is sort of what we were talking about earlier. Uh,

693
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: how an actor and artist can put that value right,

694
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: you're saying the value is on the money, where the

695
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: value is on the level of fame you achieve or

696
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 4: these projects that you in the followers, and then that

697
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: dictates who you are.

698
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: But you're really a crappy person inside exactly.

699
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Speaker 3: And you guys probably know tons of people in the

700
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: industry who are not good people, but they're on every

701
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: red carpet or every ward show. They're being celebrated.

702
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: They are putting out a signal of a brand that

703
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Speaker 1: they're not.

704
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Speaker 3: Of course, and you all know those people who are

705
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: out there. You're in that daily but but they're dead

706
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: and they're living, they're living a miserable life inside.

707
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Speaker 2: So going back to School of Great News, by the way,

708
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: is I want to I want to make sure that

709
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: people understand the the you know, the gravity of what

710
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: you've built. But School of Great News, you've you've obviously

711
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: explored some of the most incredible minds.

712
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: And I was talking.

713
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: About it earlier that you know that the world went

714
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: from listening to this great conversation to them being like,

715
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: louis you heard enough of this thing, You've practiced enough

716
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: of it, and you're also.

717
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you think?

718
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: You know?

719
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: Is there a conversation or who was I know everyone

720
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: probably asked of the same thing.

721
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: What's your guess? What's the one guess?

722
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: But is there uh an episode where you yourself was like, hm,

723
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: I I you know, I either I either I learned something.

724
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you always learned something primary guests, but I

725
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: guess the big conversation, the big question is is there

726
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: been an episode or a guess and where you saw

727
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: either some of yourself in them and you felt like,

728
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, I get this person at a different

729
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: level because seeing myself.

730
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: Uh huh. The two guests that come to mind, well,

731
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: I mean, again, there's lots of great guests, but there's

732
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: a there's two moments. One was interviewing Kobe, which was unbelievable,

733
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: which was just a cool moment for me. I guess

734
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: it was like six years ago a while ago now,

735
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: but it was just a cool moment to see someone

736
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: of that much fame and success and accomplishment, at least

737
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: with me, be very present and very genuine when he

738
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: had just won an Oscar like six months before then.

739
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Speaker 1: He just retired.

740
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: He retired, he won five NBA championships, he had all

741
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: the money he sold some company for like hundreds of

742
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: million dollars, like body arm or some water company. I mean,

743
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: it's just like win after win. And he was just

744
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: so present and so generous. Again, he had a grateful

745
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: and generous heart. So the session felt abundant, you know

746
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He was present with me, He was

747
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: grateful that I was there to interview him when I

748
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: was still like kind of up and coming. It wasn't

749
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: like big right, and he was. He was grateful and

750
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: he was generous, and he created abundance in the moment

751
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: through those two things. That energy. He could have been

752
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: hurry up, he could have been like, let's go, yeah,

753
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: create a really scarce energy, but he created abundance through

754
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: gratitude and generosity. That energy amplified a message that inspired

755
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: so many people around the world. It impacted me personally.

756
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm still talking about six years later, moment of gratitude

757
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: and generosity. So that was a really cool experience, which

758
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: reminds you that it doesn't matter how successful you are.

759
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: He could be a jerk to someone and create a

760
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: horrible moment. And our life is made up of moments,

761
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: meaning we give those memories. That's our life.

762
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: When people walk away from from you, right, it's this.

763
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: It's moments and the interpretation of these memories that is

764
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: our life. That's all we have. And so he created

765
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: a moment that for me, it was really impactful. There's

766
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: a there's a brain surgeon and neuroscientist that I had

767
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: on His name is Rahul and he'd done over a

768
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: thousand brain surgeries. So he was physically like opening skulls

769
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: and like taking out tumors cancer from brains. He's here

770
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: in like calabasis area, but he also studied neuroscience. So

771
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: he had a PhD in neuroscience, which studies the mind.

772
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: So he is a brain surgeon studying physical matter but

773
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: also studying the mind.

774
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: How that thing he's upbraiding on works.

775
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like how does energy influence matter? Right? The

776
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: mind is not in the brain. It's like what is

777
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: the mind? So it's fascinating. So I interviewed him. I said,

778
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: as a brain surgeon who's done a thousand surgeries but

779
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: also a PhD in neuroscience studying the mind, what is

780
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: the number one skill that every human should have and

781
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: if they have this skill, they will better themselves in

782
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: their life forever. He said. Emotional regulation. He's like, if

783
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: every human being could master emotional regulation, which is healing

784
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: the nervous system healing, yeah, which is going back into wholeness,

785
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: which is being in alignment. If we're out of alignment,

786
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: we are not going to be able to regulate our

787
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: emotions because anytime we're triggered or wounded or ah, we're

788
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: going to react to defend, we're going to shrink. But

789
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: if we learn to regulate our emotions or nervous our emotions,

790
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: emotional regulation, that means that we are whole. Within our

791
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: nervous system, we are in alignment. From the way we

792
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: think to how we feel is whole. Yeah, And if

793
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: we don't think and feel in a sense of alignment,

794
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean we're not going to have frustrations or

795
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: challenges or stressful moments. It doesn't mean everything is perfect

796
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: all the time. That's a spiritual bypass. But it's being

797
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: able to regulate and get back to Okay, I'm having

798
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: a moment. I'm going to process this moment and I'm

799
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: gonna get back into alignment and move on, not stay

800
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: in the past hurt or pain, but be able to

801
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: process and move on. And so for me, that's been

802
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: kind of a through line for the last twelve years

803
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: of interviews. It's like a lot of people are just

804
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: trying to teach these tools around how to heal right,

805
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: because that is true greatness.

806
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: It's like, sure, you can be optimal at that point exactly.

807
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: And if sure, we can teach people how to prepare

808
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: for the moment, how to prepare for an audition, how

809
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: to get the gig, how to launch a business, how

810
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: to make money. You can teach all these things how

811
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: to get into great shape. But if you still don't

812
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: feel whole and complete? Are you great?

813
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: Do you find that that's been a common thread in

814
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: all of the guests that you've interviewed, and do you

815
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: feel like that's been a part of why they've been

816
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: able to achieve the great achieved, whether it's a brain

817
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: surgeon or a monk or Yeah.

818
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I think the first couple of years I was more

819
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: interested in, like how to be successful?

820
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: You know?

821
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: Then it turned into okay, well success doesn't mean your head.

822
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: There's a common de nominator, right.

823
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, okay, so how do I how do

824
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: I have the life of my dreams and feel that

825
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: I actually have it? Because still Wilmer doesn't feel that

826
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 3: he has life my stream, It's very true.

827
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 5: I feel like they've all said that same thing.

828
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of how I think about it all.

829
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: It's like they haven't said that, but it's more of

830
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: like that's what I've been asking questions around from like

831
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 3: leaders in every area of life. I'm more like, are

832
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: you truly Like what's the key to you being the

833
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: best you can be and getting the results, but also

834
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: feeling like you matter whether you have it or you don't.

835
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: That's kind of the season about now.

836
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: So as first of all, unbelievable pool of incredible inspiration,

837
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: so many tools, and so many things we can walk

838
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: out of this beautiful conversation that we can practice, that

839
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 2: we can acquire, that we can aim to learn more of. Obviously,

840
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: I really want everyone to get make money easy because

841
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: there is an emotional attachment to, you know, the the

842
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: unlocking of your success. And I think that's something that's

843
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: very evident based on all the conversations with all the incredible.

844
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: People that you've had.

845
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: So you've had so much success in the last you know,

846
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: in the last decade and a half, you have built

847
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: something that has not just inspired the world, but has

848
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: probably made a lot of people very successful.

849
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, And as you look.

850
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: At ahead, you look at the world in front of you,

851
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 2: what's next for you?

852
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: You know?

853
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: What do you what? What is that that you pictured next?

854
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: Right?

855
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: Like you talked about you asked us about you know,

856
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: if money rolls in here, like you know, you know,

857
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: how do you prepare for that?

858
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: How do you talk to it?

859
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: But you know, you know you lewis, how do how

860
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: do you look at the future? And he says, what

861
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: do you where do you want to go next. What's

862
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: what's next for you? Or do you have that picture?

863
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: Prime Time Talk shot?

864
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: Now? My vision is to serve and impact one hundred

865
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: million lives every single week to help them improve the

866
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: quality of their life. That's the vision I have for myself.

867
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: How can I show up today, do the best I

868
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: can to serve and reach a hundred million lives this week.

869
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: I'm not there yet. That's been my mission for the

870
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: last twelve years. I haven't reached that goal, you know.

871
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: And the reason I'm doing a podcast is because the

872
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: best avenue to be able to reach that many people

873
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: in this season. If there's a new tool or new avenue,

874
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: like I'm open to that avenue, it doesn't the mechanism

875
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm not attached to. The mission is what I'm committed to,

876
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: and that is service, and that is serving people where

877
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: they're at to help them overcome their challenges. There's no

878
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: greater joy for me. That is my art. How can

879
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: I create a piece of content and speak to one

880
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: person who's listening or watching to unlock something in them

881
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: where they feel a sense of peace and freedom in

882
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: their life where they once felt blocked. And you guys,

883
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: get to do this through art through movies, TV, music,

884
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it might be, podcasts. You guys express

885
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: yourself that way to give people a lesson, a story,

886
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 3: something to unlock with them of relatability to hopefully create

887
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: some type of freedom. And that's the way you guys

888
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: do it in many other ways as well. That's my art.

889
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: It's how can I be the example and continue to

890
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: be on my own journey and serve the best way possible.

891
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: Now in my therapy and coaching sessions today I ask

892
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: my coach what are men at seventy eighty years old,

893
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: fifty sixty seventy eighty years old? What are they struggling with?

894
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: What is their achilles heel? What is the thing that

895
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: gets them in trouble? And I'm more thinking about my

896
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: future self every day, right, How can I make sure

897
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm preventing anything that could I could put myself into pain.

898
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I'm not gonna make mistakes and I'm

899
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: not gonna have challenges. Life's gonna throw things at me.

900
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: But how can I set myself up now that fifty

901
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: sixty eighty year old me says, I'm so glad you

902
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: woke up early.

903
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: So power folks, you know so many people ask you

904
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: this one question, what could you will? What will you

905
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: tell your your Yeah, your younger self or you think

906
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: your ten year old self, you're fine.

907
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 3: I asked my future self this christ that's so much better.

908
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: I'm Matthew McConaughey myself. I say, I'm chasing the ten

909
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: year old version of me. That's my hero. I'm never

910
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: going to be my hero that speech that he did

911
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 3: at the office of me. But I'm thinking twenty thirty

912
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: years out and I'm asking my therapist who coaches, you know,

913
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: uber successful men in their fifty sixties seventies, I'm like,

914
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: what are they dealing with? And a lot of it

915
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: is up. Their marriages are broken because they were chasing success,

916
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: Their kids don't hang out with them, they hurt them,

917
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is. And so, okay, how can

918
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: I continue to evolve myself spiritually, emotionally, my health so

919
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: I don't like get overweight and have to deal with

920
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: like some horrible disease when I'm seventy and then be

921
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: a burden. Right, It's like, how can I show up

922
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: with my best version. It doesn't guarantee everything's gonna be okay,

923
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: but it's setting myself up for greater success. So I'm

924
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: thinking about that. But my own personal dream is Los

925
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: Angeles Olympics in three and a half years.

926
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, being.

927
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: An Olympian, because when I was on my sister's couch

928
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: sixteen and a half years ago, I had a full

929
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: arm cast on and broke my wrist playing professional football.

930
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: I was in a cast in this position for six

931
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: months sleep on my sister's couch. Was twenty four and

932
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 3: twenty four attorney in twenty five, So when I turned

933
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: twenty five, it was in two thousand and eight, the

934
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: Olympics in Beijing, and I just got my cast off,

935
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: and I was kind of depressed and down sad that

936
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to be able to play football anymore.

937
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: This was my life, my dream, Like imagine never being

938
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: able to act again. That's what happened to me, and

939
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: my identity shattered, and I was just kind of depressed.

940
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: What do I do with my life? I have no

941
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: other value, I have no their talents. What can I do?

942
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: And at three am in the morning, Beijing Olympics two

943
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, the sport called team handball comes on.

944
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: You watched a little bit of highlights before you came

945
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: in and I go, where has this sport been my

946
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: whole life? And I was like, this is the thing

947
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: I was meant to do.

948
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: Why do you think it resonated that way?

949
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: Because the way the athletes were performing, I was like,

950
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: I have those skills right now. It's like running, jumping.

951
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: They're tall guys. They're like throwing really fast, hard like

952
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: and it's like it's like soccer with.

953
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Your hands, soccer with your hands.

954
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, I can do this. I played baseball,

955
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: I played basketball, I played football. Is like this is

956
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: built for me. Dream planted in my soul sixty and

957
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: a half years ago. Now. As a kid, I always

958
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: wanted to go to the Olympics, but I didn't know how.

959
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 3: I wasn't good enough in track and field. But when

960
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: this happened, one tragedy struck and a dream started and

961
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: I moved to New York City two and a half

962
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: years after that to go play with a team in

963
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: New York City. I made the club team ten months later,

964
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: as I moved to LA I remember the exact moment

965
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: I was backstage at Jimmy Kimmel. I got like an

966
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: invite to go backstage to watch Jimmy Kimmel and I

967
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: was fresh in LA. It was like, I'll do everything

968
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: and Hollywood. I was like, yeah, the bar bar exactly.

969
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: I wasn't on Jimmy Kimble, but I was like I

970
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: had like a backstage thing to like go back there.

971
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: And I got an email that said, You've been selected

972
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: on the USA national team. I'm getting chills thinking about

973
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 3: I got this email and I was like the dream

974
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: was like coming alive because I was taking the action

975
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: steps for years and we never qualified for the Olympics

976
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: because you have to win the Pan American Games and

977
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: we haven't qualified since nineteen ninety six. So I played

978
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: for eight years and I kind of gave up on

979
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: it because I was like, no matter how good I get,

980
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: the whole team has to be great to qualify. It

981
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if I'm the best player in the world,

982
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: were not qualify. So I haven't played for six years.

983
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: The last time I played, I was on the USA

984
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: team in Brazil playing against Brazilian national team twenty nineteen,

985
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, I think I might be done

986
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: because there's no path. But then we got the bid

987
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 3: for the Olympics, and if you're the host country, every

988
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: sport has an automatic qualifier. But this was like ten

989
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: years out and I was thirty five, right, and I

990
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: was like, man, ten years is a long time. And

991
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: then COVID happened. Then I tore my achilles and I

992
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: was just like, I think I might be done. But

993
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: then I went to Paris to watch the Olympics to

994
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: see that. I was like, I need to see if

995
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: this dream is inside of me. So I flew to Paris,

996
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: I washed handball and it was alive.

997
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: Well, Caddy was boiling. You're like, it's like still that guy.

998
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still that guy. But do I have what

999
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: it takes? So for the last eight months, I've been

1000
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: training and rehabbing, and next month I'm going to Spain

1001
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: for a month to play with the protein for a month. Now,

1002
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: it's still it's still three and a half years away.

1003
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: It's a marathon. It's a month by.

1004
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: It is, but it is enough time for you to

1005
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: like really take your times the mechanics bag.

1006
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: So I'm going to see and one month I'm going

1007
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: to know is this even possible or not? Why Spain?

1008
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Why do you have to go to It's one of

1009
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: the best countries that plays handball. I know a coach

1010
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: who's like invited me to come play. And if I'm

1011
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: going to play professionally and go back and forth somewhere,

1012
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: I want to be in Spanish speaking country so I

1013
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: can continue to learn Spanish. Where in Spain are you going?

1014
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: This is a small town called Leone. It's about two

1015
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: hours north of Madrid.

1016
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: Small town, dude, Well.

1017
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: This is my personal dream.

1018
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1019
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: First of all, thank you for just yeah, everything, just everything.

1020
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: There's just so much and every time we talk, we

1021
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: you know, you know, we go to these places that

1022
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: just on taps. One of the things that I'm absolutely

1023
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: one percent going to continue to dwell on is is

1024
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: you know, what do I want to be and what

1025
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: do I want to be able to say when I'm

1026
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: sixty five? You know, like I'm going to start building

1027
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: towards that sick the happy sixty five year old version

1028
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: of myself, which starts as soon as I'm done go

1029
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: upstairs and and passionately kiss my wife. You know, it's

1030
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: like I'm going to start with that when I'm gonna say, hey, baby,

1031
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: you're the best daughter in the planet.

1032
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, like there's just so much that wakes up

1033
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: in me and that.

1034
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: So also celebrating yourself for all the little winds. Yeah,

1035
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 3: it's like allowing your friends to celebrate. It doesn't have

1036
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: to be a freaking you know, Mexican party every day,

1037
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: that'll be, But it's like allowing a dinner and friends

1038
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: coming over and hanging out and having whatever.

1039
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: It's like, well today we're going to in or you're

1040
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay.

1041
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: I'll pay, I'll pay.

1042
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: And and then for me, you know, to be able

1043
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: to hear you this motivated, this excited and first of all,

1044
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: you're in great shape already you walked up, you know,

1045
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 2: like a Greek god from.

1046
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this guy's doing something right.

1047
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: But to see that you have this this goal and

1048
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: knowing the amount of mental strengthening you've done, uh, the

1049
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: amount of soul fueling that you have done, like it's you're.

1050
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: Not gonna be stopped. It's like it's going to happen.

1051
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. You know, the dream is to

1052
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: be an Olympian. And I thought that dream was over

1053
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: years ago. The dream is still alive now. And I

1054
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: am at a place where whether it happens or not,

1055
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm at peace. Yes, because I'm going to pursue it.

1056
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the wind and that is the win.

1057
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: Now, it doesn't mean that if I don't make it,

1058
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be disappointed. Sure I might be

1059
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: sad or disappointed.

1060
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: But friends will throw you a party, exactly right.

1061
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: It's also when I'm sixty five, Well, I regret not

1062
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: going and pursuing this, right. I don't want to be

1063
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: regretting at sixty five, at eighty five and be like, oh,

1064
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: I was too scared, too scared to go for it.

1065
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm okay with not making it, but I'm not

1066
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: okay with not going for it.

1067
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: I'm liu.

1068
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: That's so incredible, And it's really hard when we're at

1069
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: this level of like credibility or success or comfort to

1070
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: try new things or to pursue something that's scary.

1071
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: That's a different gear change.

1072
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: It's a different gear change, and it's like that it

1073
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: demands something inside of me that's I've never had before.

1074
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: It's like being married, trying to manage the business going back.

1075
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: It's like a whole new way of being. But again,

1076
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to regret in four years, three and

1077
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 3: a half years, when the Olympics are here at least

1078
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: I'll know either way, like, Okay, you went for it.

1079
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 3: You did everything you could. You either made the team

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Speaker 3: again you're on it, or you did it. And at

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Speaker 3: least I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can take so much serenity, so much you know,

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Speaker 2: peace from knowing that these tools are available to all

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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 1: Right And and I think today you.

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Speaker 2: Created enough road map that some of us who not

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Speaker 2: only listened to this conversation or watching this conversation from

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Speaker 2: comfort home home, found a little bit of inspiration today

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Speaker 2: to move forward with the things that either scared us

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Speaker 2: or two we never thought we deserved, you know, and

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Speaker 2: allowing for that grace to come back into your life,

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Speaker 2: because that grace turns into the fresh air you need

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Speaker 2: to kind of mobilize that passion again and really aim

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Speaker 2: to the place that you you always knew you could

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Speaker 2: go to and and really give yourself that love and respect,

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Speaker 2: that love. You know that that you're you know that

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Speaker 2: you're worth the success you want. There's so much about

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Speaker 2: that any any frontal things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, first of all, thank you, I'm so grateful

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Speaker 4: that you're here.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And and I think the biggest thing for me and

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Speaker 4: that I love to hear from you. Was about healing.

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Speaker 4: It's about healing, was about working on yourself, was about

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Speaker 4: working on your character as a human being, and how

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Speaker 4: that is the currency, and how that is the most

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Speaker 4: important thing. And the money and the success and all

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Speaker 4: that other stuff is secondary because you could, like you said,

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Speaker 4: the guy who jumped off the.

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Speaker 5: Building, right, you could have all the money in the world.

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Speaker 1: But if if your if your.

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Speaker 4: Character is not in place, if your quality as a

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Speaker 4: person is not in place, and then that means nothing.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly right?

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Speaker 2: Well, uh, Louis, I mean, I just knew in my

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Speaker 2: heart this this conversation had to happen. And uh, and

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Speaker 2: you know, and again this is why it's valuable to

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Speaker 2: you know, to identify these individuals in your life that

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Speaker 2: continue to reignite you and to you know, to energize

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Speaker 2: you and who you want to be.

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Speaker 1: And that's so I'm just so grateful.

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Speaker 2: We always do this for each other, and like the

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Speaker 2: fact that we're able to do this, you know, for everyone,

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Speaker 2: and you've done this for so many people in your

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Speaker 2: show and all that school of greatness is everywhere you can,

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Speaker 2: you know, you find your podcasting. Yeah, this is Uh,

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Speaker 2: did you do the audio.

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Speaker 3: Yet for that, I did the audit too. I recorded

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Speaker 3: it O great.

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Speaker 2: So the audio in the book is available everywhere that

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Speaker 2: you can find a book or you listen to your books.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're listening to Lewis House make money easy,

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Speaker 2: create financial freedom and live a richer life, which is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful message.

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Speaker 1: And that being said, thank you so great, hey Lewis.

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Speaker 1: I'm Wilmer Valdorama.

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Speaker 5: I'm Freddie Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: This was Those Amigos and see you next time.

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Speaker 4: Those Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's

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Speaker 4: Michael through That podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez

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Speaker 4: and Wilmer Valdorama.

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Speaker 2: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burleson and Sophie Spencer's abos.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,

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Speaker 4: and Leo Klem at WV Sound.

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Speaker 2: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts

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Speaker 2: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by

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Speaker 2: Madison Devenport and Halo Boy.

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Speaker 4: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed

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Speaker 4: by Deny.

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Speaker 2: Holtzclaw and thank you for being their third amigo today.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys always listening to those amos.

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Speaker 4: For more podcasts from my Heart, visit the ir heart

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Speaker 4: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 4: favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: To you next week.