WEBVTT - Fire Drill 058: The Shot Heard ‘Round Melbourne 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:03.280 Okay, I hit a driver off the deck from like 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.960 two to naughty or something on the seventh holand it's 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:07.560 a it's a pin that's tough to get close to 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.160 with a sandwich and he hit it to twelve feet 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.920 with a driver. UM. So probably the shot of the tournament. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.720 It probably wasn't the shot heard around the world. This 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:19.279 was the shot heard around Melbourne. Maybe that got in 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.840 my head. Can't you John noth thing what I'm thinking 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:30.920 about about? God? Can't get him now? Jan not to 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:38.960 think well I'm thinking about Hello. This is Alan Schip 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.800 knock back for another Fire Drill podcast. This is an 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:46.800 extra special one. Joining us from Melbourne is Jeff Ogilvie 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.080 as usual, but not as a podcaster, as the host 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.440 of the sand Built Invitational, which just concluded moments ago 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.400 and his uh sitting to his laugh, Well, Jeff, why 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.800 don't why don't you introduce your guest, I gas r 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:04.319 up little bit. Well, yeah, this is um probably the 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.520 start of the show. UM second overall in the tournament, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:15.640 UM leading leading female in the tournament, Memerica Kabori. She's 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.920 had an unbelievable tournament. She pushed Cam Daves all the 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.400 way down the line all weeks. She broke two course 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.400 records this week King s Nathan Row Melbourne. I think, Um, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.959 so you don't break course records of Kings Nathan Row 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.440 Melbourne every day, especially, don't do it both all in 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.039 the same tournaments. So um, one of the stars of 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.560 the show for sure. Pushed came all the way down 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.880 to the last hole. Um. I didn't see any of 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.920 her play today except for up to last because I 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.880 was doing my thing too, busy taking big divots and 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.240 looking for balls and they're off of it. Um. Everyone 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:47.640 I heard come off the course going, oh my god, 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.480 she's playing incredible. She's pushing cam. What a battle. You 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.800 gotta go out there and watch it. So, yeah, she 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.840 put on a great show. Yeah, so Momerica, congratulation's Um. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.600 What did it feel like to have a chance to 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.520 win this tournament? You know, anytime you're in contention, obviously 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.960 there's nerves and there's excitement and um. But you know, 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.800 obviously KEM Davis is a very established player. There's a 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.680 lot of other well known you know, male touring pros 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.680 on that leaderboard and you were racing past all them, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.880 Like just how exciting was that for you? Yeah? Honestly, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.000 it was probably um, I just wanted to like probably 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.680 one of the most fun I've had on the course 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.360 in a long time, I want to say this week. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.639 Um yeah, I mean, you know, I got to play 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.280 with Cam for the last three rounds, which was amazing, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.040 as we all know, you know, the chiefs some amazing things, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.960 and just being able to watch what he does around 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.239 the course as well, you know, just how he plays 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.840 the ball and it's obviously, you know, pretty different to 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.600 how I do it. So it was actually like, um 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.920 a lot to kind of you know take in for me. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.280 And yeah, it was actually quite funny. Um you know, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.760 like you said, you know, we'll all get you know, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.680 the nerves and adrenaline going down the stretch, but it 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.440 was quite funny. I think we were on the seventh 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.560 thing whole today. So I had my coach Dom on 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.919 the bag and I was just into him like I 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.280 actually don't know what I'm shooting right now, or what 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.920 cameras or well and I have far behind I am 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.640 or anything like that, which was you know, like usually 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.720 I tend to kind of know where I'm sitting and 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.480 you know, I can't really help but to think about 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.920 the score but this week kind of, you know, it 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.840 was I think guess we were kind of so focused 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.120 on trying to hit it in the same spots, and 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.600 you know, I guess the course being so challenging, you 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.520 kind of have to you know, give yourself a good place, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.960 you know, good shots in and put yourself in the 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.760 right spot. So there was in a way there was 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.240 probably a unique experience, I think for me, but just 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.600 overall just honestly had so much fun out there, I 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.880 think from you know, I've heard the same thing from 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.560 a lot of players. Just such a unique opportunity to 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.240 be able to play, um, you know, these four amazing 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.000 courses on standbut you know all in one one week, 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.280 which is you know, it's it's you know, you never 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.080 get that opportunity anywhere else. So honestly, just you know, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.960 big thanks to Jeff really is for putting this all 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.760 together for all of us, and I think a lot 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.400 of us, I mean all of us just really enjoyed 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.440 our time out. Yeah, so did your coach tell you 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.000 where you were? I mean, did you know on the 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.280 last couple of holes of how you had a chance 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.360 to snatch that trophy? We were kind of guessing we 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.280 were like, oh, I think I'm too on the for 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.720 the day, and I think cam is won ahead of you, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.720 but we're not really sure. It was actually the conversation 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.200 we had coming down, I think the samithing the past 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.480 five um, so I think we kind of had a 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.640 rough idea, but we weren't really sure. We were like, oh, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.320 it doesn't really matter. I just do what we can, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.359 trying to make two birdies last two holes, and you 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.360 know that's enough to win it it is and if 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.400 it's not, it's not. Kind Of we had that kind 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.479 of pretty chilled out mentality going out there, So that 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.320 was you know that there was a lot of fun 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.800 as well. Jeff, would you love to have that kind 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.360 of just mental clarity in contention, just don't worry about 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:51.960 just make birdies and like, that's a I've never been well. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.200 I guess sometimes when you're just when you're just black 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.440 out and shoot not under something one day and you 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:58.960 don't even know what you're doing in those days when 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.840 you get in the zone or whatever. But that's that's 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.680 a handful of times in thirty years, you know, I mean, 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.520 generally you know exactly what you're having and you're either 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.280 excited because you're playing well and you're in the lead, 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.880 or you're grump because you're not um usually very very aware. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.440 But yeah, it's it's it's kind of part of this tournament, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.080 I think, is so it's still at a very pure place, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.720 so there's not leaderboards everywhere. Um usually you're just hit 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.719 in the face with where you're at everywhere you turn, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.920 like I mean, especially I mean the PGA Tour, you're 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.839 like there's a leaderboard everywhere, and it's like you've seen 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.240 highlights from other people's holes on the screens all the time, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.920 and like it's hold different sort of vibe. It's kind 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.919 of nice to go back to pure people walking like 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.520 spectators on the fairways. Everyone just four different courses I 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.200 think sort of adds to that sort of it's an adventure. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.840 You play seventy two different holes in the tournament, you know, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.400 so to actually do well in the end. There's actually 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.760 pretty nuts to be up the top of the leader board, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.840 because that's, as it said, normally, you sort of get 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.080 to think you go Thursday Fridays, but by the time 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.719 you get to Saturday, kind of learning the course and 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.080 working out how to play at this one, you've got 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.240 ahold new course every day. I mean, are all in 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.080 a similar condition, but they're a little bit different. Kingston 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.960 was as tough as king well, not as tough as 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.679 it gets, but it was firm fast. It's a really 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:13.160 awkward course to play well. Kingson I find always raw. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.919 Melbourne is a challenge all of its own um, and 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.280 then Yarryarra was really different. They have different grains. They 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.800 have really fast power grains compared to the other three 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.200 a bend um. They all actually have a different grass 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.600 on the greens these courses, which makes it sort of 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.080 an adjustment every day. And that's sort of I think 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.080 part of it. Because part of this tournament it's it's 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.520 it's a tournament to sort of showcase the golf courses. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.000 It's too, um give everyone an opportunity to sort of 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.680 the amateurs, a chance to play with the pros, the 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.719 guys that players, to change plans with the girls, and 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.520 everyone to play with everyone who we never get to 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.520 play with each other, so that's really nice. But I 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.359 think it's almost the perfect tournament for improving your tournament 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.360 play because you have to learn a golf course really 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.160 fast in the morning almost and you did you of 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.400 learning along the way and you have to sort of 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.600 make great decisions all the way around without sort of 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.560 that three practice rounds and cut the rounds under your 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.560 belt sort of knowledge. You're just going bang, bang, bang, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.560 And it's a new hole every whole and um, different 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:18.440 conditions every day, albeit similar conditions. Um, yeah, it's it's 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.600 just a cool It's just turned out there's so many 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.320 good things to this tournament that we didn't even think of. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:23.800 We just so, let's just put a few people on 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.720 the sand belt four days in a row and see 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.280 what you see what happens. But there's so many sort 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.239 of side sort of benefits to this tournament, good aspects 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.680 that we hadn't even thought of until it actually happens. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.080 And this is our second one and it's all happened again, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.680 and um, just up in the clubhouse with a bunch 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.360 of the players who played and spectators and all the 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.680 people from the other golf courses all turned up today 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:50.600 and stuff. And I've never had so many positive reviews 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.720 of something, you know. It's just it's just turned out 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.880 to be a really cool format and a cool idea, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.320 and the clubs love it. And we had pristine weather 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.480 for the first three days. I mean, Melbourne's traditionally quite 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.640 changeable and up and down, but um, first three days 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.200 were the best three days we've had in two comfortably. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.480 And it was like um celsius every day, which for 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.760 you guys is eight fahrenheit every single day, no wind, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.640 which is really rare for Melbourne, not just a tiny 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.760 bit of wind. And then today we had rain all morning, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.440 but it's sort of got really nice at the end. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.800 There was sort of a dark sky with thunderstorms, but 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.400 it kind of got nice the last couple of holes, 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.520 and um, it couldn't have been better, really good. And 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.960 the course it was so good that, I mean, the 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.840 conditioning is so ridiculous here, how good they all are, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.439 and they're all showing off to try to be sort 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.120 of better than yesterday, and they want to be the 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.839 one that stands out amongst the four and it's really 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.120 difficult to stand out amongst these courses because they're also good. Um, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.960 it's just a treat to come every day and get 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.920 on these courses when they're trying to impress you, you know, 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.160 and there's four of the best courses in the world 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.440 all trying to impress you. They come up pretty good. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.040 You know, so that was great fun. Yeah. Well, I mean, 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.760 congrats to you, Jeff, because like you've really you've pulled 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.240 this off. I mean, um, and this this was kind 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.280 of the best case scenario with the fitness I mean, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.439 Cameron Davis, p DO Tour Winner, Presidents Cup, you have 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.720 made a great showing there. Yeah, it was you know, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.400 other than yourself, was probably the marquee player in the field, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.360 and to have to have him win it, but to 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.680 be pushed to the you know, part of the obviously 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.559 the mission this term is to bring men and women 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.160 together to play together, and boys and girls. I mean 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.160 you have you have some teenagers and um, so to 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.880 have momocca like chasing down Cam like that, that's what 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.600 you dreamed about, right, It was a yeah, total dream 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.679 And to get the set up brought. Um so it 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.440 matched up because Cam hits at three and thirty yards right, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.320 like it's a different sort of like level, and to 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.320 match it up, and it obviously worked out pretty well, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.480 right it seemed fair, I think I think so it 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.959 worked out pretty well because um, you know, I think 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.240 it balanced out really well because since we had some 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.280 of the holes that were you know, that played as 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.560 reasonably easier Part five saw us and tough part forth 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.560 for the guys, and then there were also holes where 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.360 you know, we'll be teeing off simm holes, which then 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.720 was similar to you sorry, which then kind of balanced 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.800 that out, I think across the board. So I think 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.760 it worked out really well, which you know, I was, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.199 you know, it was really really cool to see me. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.720 It's obviously really tough to get that right, I think too, 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.120 you know, just it's so hard to get that balance 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.920 right because it's just, you know, so many variables out there. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.160 But I thought it was, you know, playing really cool, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.400 really good. Yeah. I mean, I guess we had the 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.240 best guy in the field and the best girl in 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.760 the field coming up the last, separated by one shot. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.520 So I guess it worked out really well. So we 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.600 don't do it total strokes. We do it relative to 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.640 part right, um, which is I think a better way 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.600 to match it up. I think, um, yeah, and I 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.360 worked out perfectly. Yeah, So um Cama Michael were clearly 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:54.840 the two best players in the field, and as I 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.760 said that, we were separated by well, they were tired 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:01.000 I think with two to play. Actually, Um and cam 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.760 File reports I didn't say it, but Cam hit a 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.440 driver off the deck from like two eight or two 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.679 naughty or something on the seventh holand it's a it's 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.160 a pin that's tough to get close to with a 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.040 sandwich and he hit it to twelve feet with a driver. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.120 Um so probably the shot of the tournament. Shan probably 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.360 wasn't captured on live tebe they or something, because it 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.480 would have been like the shot of the year or something. Apparently, Um, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.000 I was gonna say that sounds like like like Sarazan's um, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.640 you know, hold out in Augusta. It's which was the 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.400 second playing of the Masters, that you need to stunt 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.679 like that to kind of help put things on the map. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.680 So that's just probably wasn't the shot heard around the world. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:39.600 This was the shot heard around Melbourne. Maybe start well, 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.920 so Molica, let's talk about what this this means for 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.480 your career. You know, obviously you're twenty three years old, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.679 turn pro last year after having a very nice career 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.560 at pepper Dye and and you've had success on the 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.680 developmental tours. But what will this week do for you 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.880 and you know, to push you forward in your young career. Yeah, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.880 I think what kind have happened this week in a 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.840 lot of areas I feel like gives me a bit 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.480 of confidence going into next season. UM, you know, just um, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.240 I guess. I mean there's a lot of things that 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.160 kind of happened this week, but being able to play 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.320 UM kind of against the quality of the field that 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.920 we were able to this week and on the courses 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.360 that you know set up not easy at all, UM, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.200 you know, even compared to UM, just compared to any 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.280 other courses around the world that will get to play. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.559 I mean, the setup of it is you know, absolutely 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.280 pure UM. You know, difficult. You know, they'll be difficult pins, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.280 you know, the condition of greens, all that kind of stuff. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.480 I mean, I think being able to kind of play 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:42.520 the way UM I was able to UM kind of 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.199 confirms that the stuff that I've been working on leading 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.240 up to, you know, this week, in the last few 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.480 weeks have actually been UM, a real positive. You know, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.280 being able to do that in a tournament, you know, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.920 there'll be things that will be working on at all times, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.000 and we'll be you know, just be on the range 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.920 practice rounds will be like, oh yeah, we've got them, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.400 but being able to do them in a tournament situation 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.840 like this is you know, can sometimes be an entirely 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.960 different story. So, um, yeah, I think in that sense, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.520 you know, this was such a great opportunity for me 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.800 to be able to test it as well. Um, you know, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.040 in a proper tournament situation, which you know, we don't 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.880 really we don't always get the chance to do. And 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.439 you know, now we're kind of going into the summer, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.920 um Christmas break kind of thing, so I've probably got 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.720 three or four weeks to work on a few things 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.600 that I was able to kind of pick up on 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.120 this week, and so you know, for me, like this week, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.040 I just feel like I just got so much out 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.240 of it, really, Um kind of learned a lot about 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.440 my own game, learned a lot about from watching the 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.319 guys play as well, especially you know, not to mention 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.280 watching cam play, but you know, we're playing with Mecca today, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.280 and you know, it was it was Actually I find 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:49.959 it really cool being able to play with the guys, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.600 you know, like watching them close up, because you know, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.520 we might play in the same tournament quite a few times, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.199 but we don't really we often get to watch close 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.839 up what they do, and I feel like there's a 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.040 lot that, um, we can kind of learn from you know, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.920 how they play the game and um that kind of stuff. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.719 So yeah, across the board just got so much out 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.600 of it, so really excited for the season coming up 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.360 next year. Any any fun little um tidbits you can 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.320 share about, like specific shots or putting drills or anything 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.360 that you you were able to witness this week that 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.880 that it kind of clicked and you've you've already sort 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:31.120 of incorporated into what you do. I feel like I 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.520 saw from the guys, mainly because I don't really get 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.840 the chance to watch the other girls this week, but um, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.200 I feel like compared to what I do, I feel 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.480 like a lot of the guys shaped the ball really 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.200 well into the greens, which you know, it's it's being 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.480 able to do that. I think a lot of times, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.760 you know, it can be a massive advantage depending on 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.520 you know, the penn placements, knowing that you know and 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.840 using the contours of the greens, that kind of stuff. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.040 I feel like there's a lot of creativity that I 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.960 saw throughout the week, you know, which you know, I 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.200 think there were a couple of times I was watching 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.520 and be like, oh, I'd probably play it like this, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.720 kind of picturing it in my head you know, and 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.280 you know, sometimes it will be similar and then sometimes 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.280 well be like completely different. I'd be like, oh wow, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.600 like I did not think of doing that. So you know, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.320 there's a few things like that which you know, I 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.880 kind of remember remember back, you know, looking back on 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.480 the last three or four days. So you know, that's 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 always cool to see. Yeah, that that's great. Kind of 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.760 expands your your notion of what's possible a little bit. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.200 So those who have an ear for accidents will will 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.280 notice that you don't have the arsy like like Jeff, 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.320 but you're actually from New Zealand. I'm wondering, has Lydia 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.120 been an influence and a mentor for you? Lydia She 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.400 has been a big influence on me, for sure. Yeah. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 I think we actually not too far in Asia think, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.600 but like, you know, just even when I was a 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.040 junior um you know, fifteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen, that's when 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.440 she was already on the world stage, you know, you know, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.640 I think she was ranking that world number one, I 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.040 think as early as UM probably around that time, and 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.080 I think, you know, she's probably the player that I 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.000 look up to the most, you know, not just because 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.760 she's from New Zealand, but you know, just the amazing 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.800 personality she has and I've been lucky to kind of 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.320 get to know her a little bit more. This year, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.280 I managed to you know, play in the to my 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.720 own Agia Pacific Cup, which was a team's event, so 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.920 myself and Lydia were able to you know, be the 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.040 represent New Zealand and that event, which was amazing. I 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.840 got just spent three days with her, play in the 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.120 same group as there and yeah, she's just such a genuinely, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.880 um like nice person that's always like, you know, that's 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.000 wanting to help and you know, yeah, other than you know, 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.440 obviously want to be a player like her, but also 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.920 just kind of as a person that she's someone that 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.520 I really look up to. So um, she's been a 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.880 massive influence to me, just not just think golf, but overall, Yeah, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.000 I love that, So Jeff, you know, the highlight of 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.160 your week between the ropes was obviously a bogy list 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.920 to were around Royal Melbourne, your your home course and 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.680 the place that we know you love so much, and um, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.920 you weren't able to string four rounds together like that, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.879 but as you're continuing to kind of screep off the 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.399 rust and get into a little more competitive mindset. What 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.199 did you learn about where your game is and and 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.879 does it does it give you any optimism going forward? Um, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.680 my game is a long way away, I think, Um 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.080 I was. I did enjoy Role Melbourne. I always do. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.440 I like the the beauty I think of Role Melbourne 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.720 and courses like that. Um is that if you know 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.520 how to that it's so strategic that if you know 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.159 how to play it, you can be playing poorly and 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:42.399 have a good score if you know how you do 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.560 it and know what you're doing, and if you're playing 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:45.920 you could if you don't know what you're doing, you 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.320 can play well and have a bad score, which I 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.480 kind of really like. It's more about knowing how to 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.640 play the course rather than we play so much golf 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.800 that it's it's all about precision. You had a good shot, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.000 in your reward, you had a bad shot, you punished. Um, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.480 mechanically speaking, just it's an execution contest, whereas Ray Melbourne 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.920 is more of a game of chess. Um, and it 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.840 always sort of gets me excited. Yeah, my game's actually 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.960 total crap, to be honest, But um, there's signs like 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.159 there's some good stuff. I mean, I've just got you 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.960 get so much going on and when you're running I'm 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.800 not running this golf tournent by any means. There's a 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.600 lot of people doing most of the heavy lifting, but 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.600 there's way more going on just the last few weeks 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.159 for this tournament that I normally would have having a 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.320 golf tournament. And I've played golf twice, I think since 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:35.639 he's trying open, so um, there was enough good stuff 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:40.840 that I'm sort of got some positives and I did. Um, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.399 I did get a little bit of it, as you 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.359 always do at the end of a crap week, Somewhere 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.640 in the last two or three hours, you're like, oh, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.680 there it is. So I'm leaving with like hope, which 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.280 is always annoying, right, um, but exciting as well. So 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:55.800 I've got something that I work on. I want to 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.520 go hit balls now actually to be honest, because I've 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:03.240