Speaker 1: Okay, I hit a driver off the deck from like
Speaker 1: two to naughty or something on the seventh holand it's
Speaker 1: a it's a pin that's tough to get close to
Speaker 1: with a sandwich and he hit it to twelve feet
Speaker 1: with a driver. UM. So probably the shot of the tournament.
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't the shot heard around the world. This
Speaker 1: was the shot heard around Melbourne. Maybe that got in
Speaker 1: my head. Can't you John noth thing what I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about about? God? Can't get him now? Jan not to
Speaker 1: think well I'm thinking about Hello. This is Alan Schip
Speaker 1: knock back for another Fire Drill podcast. This is an
Speaker 1: extra special one. Joining us from Melbourne is Jeff Ogilvie
Speaker 1: as usual, but not as a podcaster, as the host
Speaker 1: of the sand Built Invitational, which just concluded moments ago
Speaker 1: and his uh sitting to his laugh, Well, Jeff, why
Speaker 1: don't why don't you introduce your guest, I gas r
Speaker 1: up little bit. Well, yeah, this is um probably the
Speaker 1: start of the show. UM second overall in the tournament,
Speaker 1: UM leading leading female in the tournament, Memerica Kabori. She's
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable tournament. She pushed Cam Daves all the
Speaker 1: way down the line all weeks. She broke two course
Speaker 1: records this week King s Nathan Row Melbourne. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: so you don't break course records of Kings Nathan Row
Speaker 1: Melbourne every day, especially, don't do it both all in
Speaker 1: the same tournaments. So um, one of the stars of
Speaker 1: the show for sure. Pushed came all the way down
Speaker 1: to the last hole. Um. I didn't see any of
Speaker 1: her play today except for up to last because I
Speaker 1: was doing my thing too, busy taking big divots and
Speaker 1: looking for balls and they're off of it. Um. Everyone
Speaker 1: I heard come off the course going, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's playing incredible. She's pushing cam. What a battle. You
Speaker 1: gotta go out there and watch it. So, yeah, she
Speaker 1: put on a great show. Yeah, so Momerica, congratulation's Um.
Speaker 1: What did it feel like to have a chance to
Speaker 1: win this tournament? You know, anytime you're in contention, obviously
Speaker 1: there's nerves and there's excitement and um. But you know,
Speaker 1: obviously KEM Davis is a very established player. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of other well known you know, male touring pros
Speaker 1: on that leaderboard and you were racing past all them,
Speaker 1: Like just how exciting was that for you? Yeah? Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was probably um, I just wanted to like probably
Speaker 1: one of the most fun I've had on the course
Speaker 1: in a long time, I want to say this week.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean, you know, I got to play
Speaker 1: with Cam for the last three rounds, which was amazing,
Speaker 1: as we all know, you know, the chiefs some amazing things,
Speaker 1: and just being able to watch what he does around
Speaker 1: the course as well, you know, just how he plays
Speaker 1: the ball and it's obviously, you know, pretty different to
Speaker 1: how I do it. So it was actually like, um
Speaker 1: a lot to kind of you know take in for me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was actually quite funny. Um you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, we'll all get you know,
Speaker 1: the nerves and adrenaline going down the stretch, but it
Speaker 1: was quite funny. I think we were on the seventh
Speaker 1: thing whole today. So I had my coach Dom on
Speaker 1: the bag and I was just into him like I
Speaker 1: actually don't know what I'm shooting right now, or what
Speaker 1: cameras or well and I have far behind I am
Speaker 1: or anything like that, which was you know, like usually
Speaker 1: I tend to kind of know where I'm sitting and
Speaker 1: you know, I can't really help but to think about
Speaker 1: the score but this week kind of, you know, it
Speaker 1: was I think guess we were kind of so focused
Speaker 1: on trying to hit it in the same spots, and
Speaker 1: you know, I guess the course being so challenging, you
Speaker 1: kind of have to you know, give yourself a good place,
Speaker 1: you know, good shots in and put yourself in the
Speaker 1: right spot. So there was in a way there was
Speaker 1: probably a unique experience, I think for me, but just
Speaker 1: overall just honestly had so much fun out there, I
Speaker 1: think from you know, I've heard the same thing from
Speaker 1: a lot of players. Just such a unique opportunity to
Speaker 1: be able to play, um, you know, these four amazing
Speaker 1: courses on standbut you know all in one one week,
Speaker 1: which is you know, it's it's you know, you never
Speaker 1: get that opportunity anywhere else. So honestly, just you know,
Speaker 1: big thanks to Jeff really is for putting this all
Speaker 1: together for all of us, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of us, I mean all of us just really enjoyed
Speaker 1: our time out. Yeah, so did your coach tell you
Speaker 1: where you were? I mean, did you know on the
Speaker 1: last couple of holes of how you had a chance
Speaker 1: to snatch that trophy? We were kind of guessing we
Speaker 1: were like, oh, I think I'm too on the for
Speaker 1: the day, and I think cam is won ahead of you,
Speaker 1: but we're not really sure. It was actually the conversation
Speaker 1: we had coming down, I think the samithing the past
Speaker 1: five um, so I think we kind of had a
Speaker 1: rough idea, but we weren't really sure. We were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. I just do what we can,
Speaker 1: trying to make two birdies last two holes, and you
Speaker 1: know that's enough to win it it is and if
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. Kind Of we had that kind
Speaker 1: of pretty chilled out mentality going out there, So that
Speaker 1: was you know that there was a lot of fun
Speaker 1: as well. Jeff, would you love to have that kind
Speaker 1: of just mental clarity in contention, just don't worry about
Speaker 1: just make birdies and like, that's a I've never been well.
Speaker 1: I guess sometimes when you're just when you're just black
Speaker 1: out and shoot not under something one day and you
Speaker 1: don't even know what you're doing in those days when
Speaker 1: you get in the zone or whatever. But that's that's
Speaker 1: a handful of times in thirty years, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: generally you know exactly what you're having and you're either
Speaker 1: excited because you're playing well and you're in the lead,
Speaker 1: or you're grump because you're not um usually very very aware.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's kind of part of this tournament,
Speaker 1: I think, is so it's still at a very pure place,
Speaker 1: so there's not leaderboards everywhere. Um usually you're just hit
Speaker 1: in the face with where you're at everywhere you turn,
Speaker 1: like I mean, especially I mean the PGA Tour, you're
Speaker 1: like there's a leaderboard everywhere, and it's like you've seen
Speaker 1: highlights from other people's holes on the screens all the time,
Speaker 1: and like it's hold different sort of vibe. It's kind
Speaker 1: of nice to go back to pure people walking like
Speaker 1: spectators on the fairways. Everyone just four different courses I
Speaker 1: think sort of adds to that sort of it's an adventure.
Speaker 1: You play seventy two different holes in the tournament, you know,
Speaker 1: so to actually do well in the end. There's actually
Speaker 1: pretty nuts to be up the top of the leader board,
Speaker 1: because that's, as it said, normally, you sort of get
Speaker 1: to think you go Thursday Fridays, but by the time
Speaker 1: you get to Saturday, kind of learning the course and
Speaker 1: working out how to play at this one, you've got
Speaker 1: ahold new course every day. I mean, are all in
Speaker 1: a similar condition, but they're a little bit different. Kingston
Speaker 1: was as tough as king well, not as tough as
Speaker 1: it gets, but it was firm fast. It's a really
Speaker 1: awkward course to play well. Kingson I find always raw.
Speaker 1: Melbourne is a challenge all of its own um, and
Speaker 1: then Yarryarra was really different. They have different grains. They
Speaker 1: have really fast power grains compared to the other three
Speaker 1: a bend um. They all actually have a different grass
Speaker 1: on the greens these courses, which makes it sort of
Speaker 1: an adjustment every day. And that's sort of I think
Speaker 1: part of it. Because part of this tournament it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a tournament to sort of showcase the golf courses.
Speaker 1: It's too, um give everyone an opportunity to sort of
Speaker 1: the amateurs, a chance to play with the pros, the
Speaker 1: guys that players, to change plans with the girls, and
Speaker 1: everyone to play with everyone who we never get to
Speaker 1: play with each other, so that's really nice. But I
Speaker 1: think it's almost the perfect tournament for improving your tournament
Speaker 1: play because you have to learn a golf course really
Speaker 1: fast in the morning almost and you did you of
Speaker 1: learning along the way and you have to sort of
Speaker 1: make great decisions all the way around without sort of
Speaker 1: that three practice rounds and cut the rounds under your
Speaker 1: belt sort of knowledge. You're just going bang, bang, bang,
Speaker 1: And it's a new hole every whole and um, different
Speaker 1: conditions every day, albeit similar conditions. Um, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: just a cool It's just turned out there's so many
Speaker 1: good things to this tournament that we didn't even think of.
Speaker 1: We just so, let's just put a few people on
Speaker 1: the sand belt four days in a row and see
Speaker 1: what you see what happens. But there's so many sort
Speaker 1: of side sort of benefits to this tournament, good aspects
Speaker 1: that we hadn't even thought of until it actually happens.
Speaker 1: And this is our second one and it's all happened again,
Speaker 1: and um, just up in the clubhouse with a bunch
Speaker 1: of the players who played and spectators and all the
Speaker 1: people from the other golf courses all turned up today
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I've never had so many positive reviews
Speaker 1: of something, you know. It's just it's just turned out
Speaker 1: to be a really cool format and a cool idea,
Speaker 1: and the clubs love it. And we had pristine weather
Speaker 1: for the first three days. I mean, Melbourne's traditionally quite
Speaker 1: changeable and up and down, but um, first three days
Speaker 1: were the best three days we've had in two comfortably.
Speaker 1: And it was like um celsius every day, which for
Speaker 1: you guys is eight fahrenheit every single day, no wind,
Speaker 1: which is really rare for Melbourne, not just a tiny
Speaker 1: bit of wind. And then today we had rain all morning,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of got really nice at the end.
Speaker 1: There was sort of a dark sky with thunderstorms, but
Speaker 1: it kind of got nice the last couple of holes,
Speaker 1: and um, it couldn't have been better, really good. And
Speaker 1: the course it was so good that, I mean, the
Speaker 1: conditioning is so ridiculous here, how good they all are,
Speaker 1: and they're all showing off to try to be sort
Speaker 1: of better than yesterday, and they want to be the
Speaker 1: one that stands out amongst the four and it's really
Speaker 1: difficult to stand out amongst these courses because they're also good. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just a treat to come every day and get
Speaker 1: on these courses when they're trying to impress you, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's four of the best courses in the world
Speaker 1: all trying to impress you. They come up pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know, so that was great fun. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: congrats to you, Jeff, because like you've really you've pulled
Speaker 1: this off. I mean, um, and this this was kind
Speaker 1: of the best case scenario with the fitness I mean,
Speaker 1: Cameron Davis, p DO Tour Winner, Presidents Cup, you have
Speaker 1: made a great showing there. Yeah, it was you know,
Speaker 1: other than yourself, was probably the marquee player in the field,
Speaker 1: and to have to have him win it, but to
Speaker 1: be pushed to the you know, part of the obviously
Speaker 1: the mission this term is to bring men and women
Speaker 1: together to play together, and boys and girls. I mean
Speaker 1: you have you have some teenagers and um, so to
Speaker 1: have momocca like chasing down Cam like that, that's what
Speaker 1: you dreamed about, right, It was a yeah, total dream
Speaker 1: And to get the set up brought. Um so it
Speaker 1: matched up because Cam hits at three and thirty yards right,
Speaker 1: like it's a different sort of like level, and to
Speaker 1: match it up, and it obviously worked out pretty well,
Speaker 1: right it seemed fair, I think I think so it
Speaker 1: worked out pretty well because um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it balanced out really well because since we had some
Speaker 1: of the holes that were you know, that played as
Speaker 1: reasonably easier Part five saw us and tough part forth
Speaker 1: for the guys, and then there were also holes where
Speaker 1: you know, we'll be teeing off simm holes, which then
Speaker 1: was similar to you sorry, which then kind of balanced
Speaker 1: that out, I think across the board. So I think
Speaker 1: it worked out really well, which you know, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was really really cool to see me.
Speaker 1: It's obviously really tough to get that right, I think too,
Speaker 1: you know, just it's so hard to get that balance
Speaker 1: right because it's just, you know, so many variables out there.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was, you know, playing really cool,
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. I mean, I guess we had the
Speaker 1: best guy in the field and the best girl in
Speaker 1: the field coming up the last, separated by one shot.
Speaker 1: So I guess it worked out really well. So we
Speaker 1: don't do it total strokes. We do it relative to
Speaker 1: part right, um, which is I think a better way
Speaker 1: to match it up. I think, um, yeah, and I
Speaker 1: worked out perfectly. Yeah, So um Cama Michael were clearly
Speaker 1: the two best players in the field, and as I
Speaker 1: said that, we were separated by well, they were tired
Speaker 1: I think with two to play. Actually, Um and cam
Speaker 1: File reports I didn't say it, but Cam hit a
Speaker 1: driver off the deck from like two eight or two
Speaker 1: naughty or something on the seventh holand it's a it's
Speaker 1: a pin that's tough to get close to with a
Speaker 1: sandwich and he hit it to twelve feet with a driver.
Speaker 1: Um so probably the shot of the tournament. Shan probably
Speaker 1: wasn't captured on live tebe they or something, because it
Speaker 1: would have been like the shot of the year or something. Apparently, Um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that sounds like like like Sarazan's um,
Speaker 1: you know, hold out in Augusta. It's which was the
Speaker 1: second playing of the Masters, that you need to stunt
Speaker 1: like that to kind of help put things on the map.
Speaker 1: So that's just probably wasn't the shot heard around the world.
Speaker 1: This was the shot heard around Melbourne. Maybe start well,
Speaker 1: so Molica, let's talk about what this this means for
Speaker 1: your career. You know, obviously you're twenty three years old,
Speaker 1: turn pro last year after having a very nice career
Speaker 1: at pepper Dye and and you've had success on the
Speaker 1: developmental tours. But what will this week do for you
Speaker 1: and you know, to push you forward in your young career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what kind have happened this week in a
Speaker 1: lot of areas I feel like gives me a bit
Speaker 1: of confidence going into next season. UM, you know, just um,
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: kind of happened this week, but being able to play
Speaker 1: UM kind of against the quality of the field that
Speaker 1: we were able to this week and on the courses
Speaker 1: that you know set up not easy at all, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, even compared to UM, just compared to any
Speaker 1: other courses around the world that will get to play.
Speaker 1: I mean, the setup of it is you know, absolutely
Speaker 1: pure UM. You know, difficult. You know, they'll be difficult pins,
Speaker 1: you know, the condition of greens, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think being able to kind of play
Speaker 1: the way UM I was able to UM kind of
Speaker 1: confirms that the stuff that I've been working on leading
Speaker 1: up to, you know, this week, in the last few
Speaker 1: weeks have actually been UM, a real positive. You know,
Speaker 1: being able to do that in a tournament, you know,
Speaker 1: there'll be things that will be working on at all times,
Speaker 1: and we'll be you know, just be on the range
Speaker 1: practice rounds will be like, oh yeah, we've got them,
Speaker 1: but being able to do them in a tournament situation
Speaker 1: like this is you know, can sometimes be an entirely
Speaker 1: different story. So, um, yeah, I think in that sense,
Speaker 1: you know, this was such a great opportunity for me
Speaker 1: to be able to test it as well. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: in a proper tournament situation, which you know, we don't
Speaker 1: really we don't always get the chance to do. And
Speaker 1: you know, now we're kind of going into the summer,
Speaker 1: um Christmas break kind of thing, so I've probably got
Speaker 1: three or four weeks to work on a few things
Speaker 1: that I was able to kind of pick up on
Speaker 1: this week, and so you know, for me, like this week,
Speaker 1: I just feel like I just got so much out
Speaker 1: of it, really, Um kind of learned a lot about
Speaker 1: my own game, learned a lot about from watching the
Speaker 1: guys play as well, especially you know, not to mention
Speaker 1: watching cam play, but you know, we're playing with Mecca today,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was it was Actually I find
Speaker 1: it really cool being able to play with the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, like watching them close up, because you know,
Speaker 1: we might play in the same tournament quite a few times,
Speaker 1: but we don't really we often get to watch close
Speaker 1: up what they do, and I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot that, um, we can kind of learn from you know,
Speaker 1: how they play the game and um that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, across the board just got so much out
Speaker 1: of it, so really excited for the season coming up
Speaker 1: next year. Any any fun little um tidbits you can
Speaker 1: share about, like specific shots or putting drills or anything
Speaker 1: that you you were able to witness this week that
Speaker 1: that it kind of clicked and you've you've already sort
Speaker 1: of incorporated into what you do. I feel like I
Speaker 1: saw from the guys, mainly because I don't really get
Speaker 1: the chance to watch the other girls this week, but um,
Speaker 1: I feel like compared to what I do, I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the guys shaped the ball really
Speaker 1: well into the greens, which you know, it's it's being
Speaker 1: able to do that. I think a lot of times,
Speaker 1: you know, it can be a massive advantage depending on
Speaker 1: you know, the penn placements, knowing that you know and
Speaker 1: using the contours of the greens, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of creativity that I
Speaker 1: saw throughout the week, you know, which you know, I
Speaker 1: think there were a couple of times I was watching
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I'd probably play it like this,
Speaker 1: kind of picturing it in my head you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it will be similar and then sometimes
Speaker 1: well be like completely different. I'd be like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: like I did not think of doing that. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's a few things like that which you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of remember remember back, you know, looking back on
Speaker 1: the last three or four days. So you know, that's
Speaker 1: always cool to see. Yeah, that that's great. Kind of
Speaker 1: expands your your notion of what's possible a little bit. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: So those who have an ear for accidents will will
Speaker 1: notice that you don't have the arsy like like Jeff,
Speaker 1: but you're actually from New Zealand. I'm wondering, has Lydia
Speaker 1: been an influence and a mentor for you? Lydia She
Speaker 1: has been a big influence on me, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we actually not too far in Asia think,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, just even when I was a
Speaker 1: junior um you know, fifteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen, that's when
Speaker 1: she was already on the world stage, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I think she was ranking that world number one, I
Speaker 1: think as early as UM probably around that time, and
Speaker 1: I think, you know, she's probably the player that I
Speaker 1: look up to the most, you know, not just because
Speaker 1: she's from New Zealand, but you know, just the amazing
Speaker 1: personality she has and I've been lucky to kind of
Speaker 1: get to know her a little bit more. This year,
Speaker 1: I managed to you know, play in the to my
Speaker 1: own Agia Pacific Cup, which was a team's event, so
Speaker 1: myself and Lydia were able to you know, be the
Speaker 1: represent New Zealand and that event, which was amazing. I
Speaker 1: got just spent three days with her, play in the
Speaker 1: same group as there and yeah, she's just such a genuinely,
Speaker 1: um like nice person that's always like, you know, that's
Speaker 1: wanting to help and you know, yeah, other than you know,
Speaker 1: obviously want to be a player like her, but also
Speaker 1: just kind of as a person that she's someone that
Speaker 1: I really look up to. So um, she's been a
Speaker 1: massive influence to me, just not just think golf, but overall, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that, So Jeff, you know, the highlight of
Speaker 1: your week between the ropes was obviously a bogy list
Speaker 1: to were around Royal Melbourne, your your home course and
Speaker 1: the place that we know you love so much, and um,
Speaker 1: you weren't able to string four rounds together like that,
Speaker 1: but as you're continuing to kind of screep off the
Speaker 1: rust and get into a little more competitive mindset. What
Speaker 1: did you learn about where your game is and and
Speaker 1: does it does it give you any optimism going forward? Um,
Speaker 1: my game is a long way away, I think, Um
Speaker 1: I was. I did enjoy Role Melbourne. I always do.
Speaker 1: I like the the beauty I think of Role Melbourne
Speaker 1: and courses like that. Um is that if you know
Speaker 1: how to that it's so strategic that if you know
Speaker 1: how to play it, you can be playing poorly and
Speaker 1: have a good score if you know how you do
Speaker 1: it and know what you're doing, and if you're playing
Speaker 1: you could if you don't know what you're doing, you
Speaker 1: can play well and have a bad score, which I
Speaker 1: kind of really like. It's more about knowing how to
Speaker 1: play the course rather than we play so much golf
Speaker 1: that it's it's all about precision. You had a good shot,
Speaker 1: in your reward, you had a bad shot, you punished. Um,
Speaker 1: mechanically speaking, just it's an execution contest, whereas Ray Melbourne
Speaker 1: is more of a game of chess. Um, and it
Speaker 1: always sort of gets me excited. Yeah, my game's actually
Speaker 1: total crap, to be honest, But um, there's signs like
Speaker 1: there's some good stuff. I mean, I've just got you
Speaker 1: get so much going on and when you're running I'm
Speaker 1: not running this golf tournent by any means. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people doing most of the heavy lifting, but
Speaker 1: there's way more going on just the last few weeks
Speaker 1: for this tournament that I normally would have having a
Speaker 1: golf tournament. And I've played golf twice, I think since
Speaker 1: he's trying open, so um, there was enough good stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm sort of got some positives and I did. Um,
Speaker 1: I did get a little bit of it, as you
Speaker 1: always do at the end of a crap week, Somewhere
Speaker 1: in the last two or three hours, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: there it is. So I'm leaving with like hope, which
Speaker 1: is always annoying, right, um, but exciting as well. So
Speaker 1: I've got something that I work on. I want to
Speaker 1: go hit balls now actually to be honest, because I've
Speaker 1: got actually an inkling of an idea that might uh
Speaker 1: like solve a few of the issues that I mean having.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, it was okay, and it's so fun
Speaker 1: to play this. I'm just happy that everyone had a
Speaker 1: good time, um, and that it's sort of some of
Speaker 1: what my moocha is saying, is ringing like exactly what
Speaker 1: we want to hear. How much everyone's learning watching everyone
Speaker 1: else play golf, play these golf courses. Um, it really
Speaker 1: is in the spirit of I mean, there's a mentoring aspect,
Speaker 1: but there's just a learning aspect and experience aspect. And
Speaker 1: there's no other golf tournament in the world where're going
Speaker 1: to get to play seventy two great holes that are
Speaker 1: all different in a row, four days in a row.
Speaker 1: You know, we got really fortunate where the weather. It
Speaker 1: would have kind of been nice to see a bit
Speaker 1: of wind get up a couple of times. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just this, as I said, this tournament, we just
Speaker 1: kind of wanted a little bit of a nice experience
Speaker 1: and hey, let's treat everyone at the end of the
Speaker 1: year and play for good courses and put everyone in
Speaker 1: the same thing, and let's just have a bit of
Speaker 1: fun at the end of year. And it's turned out
Speaker 1: to be there's so many stressed to this tournament that
Speaker 1: I that we didn't imagine that are happening. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: my golf is plenty of room for improvement. But there's Um,
Speaker 1: as I said, there was a couple of glimmers there
Speaker 1: towards the end. Row Melton was a fun day and
Speaker 1: it's nice to know I can still play golf of
Speaker 1: course like that, Okay, even when I'm not really playing
Speaker 1: super well. Um, but there was some glimmers. I've got
Speaker 1: something to work on over Christmas in the next month
Speaker 1: really until I've got anything serious to play again. So
Speaker 1: we'll see us as always. To be continued. I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear that well. Obviously, the first playing of the
Speaker 1: Invitation of the last year, you threw it together really
Speaker 1: fast and pulled it off, but it was it was
Speaker 1: you're sort of building the airplane while you're flying it.
Speaker 1: You had this whole year to refine the idea and
Speaker 1: and um, what's next. I mean, I'm sure every you
Speaker 1: learned a lot this week of things you want to play.
Speaker 1: How do you see this evolving into the third annual
Speaker 1: playing a year from now? Yeah, I mean, look, well,
Speaker 1: there's no hurry. I think it's everyone who comes to
Speaker 1: play it. He's having a good time, you know, everyone
Speaker 1: comes to watch. It's having a good time. The clubs
Speaker 1: are liking it. It's sort of ticking all the boxes
Speaker 1: that we wanted to achieve. So we just want to
Speaker 1: gradually improve and just keep investing in the tournament. It's
Speaker 1: not about it's not about raising squillions of dollars and
Speaker 1: paying lots of people and like having big grand stands
Speaker 1: and all that. It's not about that at all. It's
Speaker 1: just about making it a better experience for everyone who
Speaker 1: comes to play it and everyone who comes to watch
Speaker 1: it every year. So we'll there's as you do these things,
Speaker 1: you don't problems you don't. You can't foresee everything until
Speaker 1: they happen, you know. So there's ten or fifteen or
Speaker 1: twenty little things that popped up this week that just
Speaker 1: little things that we sort of noticed, and we've taken
Speaker 1: a few notes, and we'll just improve bit by bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, we improved a little bit more this year.
Speaker 1: Our organization was a little bit better. We had really
Speaker 1: good communication with the players. I thought this year, better
Speaker 1: balls on the range, everyone got the yardish books and
Speaker 1: stuff at the start of the week. And like we
Speaker 1: just did a few a few things that were just
Speaker 1: a little bit better, and we'll just try to just
Speaker 1: keep doing that, sort of keep investing in the event obviously,
Speaker 1: try to i mean raise a bit more money so
Speaker 1: we can do all that sort of stuff. But we're
Speaker 1: just there's no rush, we think, I think the event
Speaker 1: is great, everybody enjoys it. We're just going to just
Speaker 1: keep polishing and polishing and polishing and just hopefully we
Speaker 1: can keep this going for a really long time. I mean,
Speaker 1: these aren't the only four courses on the sand Belt.
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of clubs who are really putting
Speaker 1: their hand up hard to get involved. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to get rid of any um, so there'll be
Speaker 1: discussions going forward, but that's some of these clubs will
Speaker 1: be hosting big tournaments in the year. There may be
Speaker 1: hosting in Australian Open or something. Maybe they do that
Speaker 1: and someone else comes in and um so we'll be
Speaker 1: sort of the clubs. It'll probably maybe end up sort
Speaker 1: of a rotation thing. But there's there's more than four
Speaker 1: elite courses on the sand Belt, you know, which is
Speaker 1: just a sign of how fortunate we are in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: So would just yeah, just keep making incremental improvements and
Speaker 1: as long as the players have a good time, everybody
Speaker 1: gets something out of it, The spectators have a good time,
Speaker 1: the clubs enjoy it. Um wait, winning. You know, so
Speaker 1: what if Quantas came to you tomorrow and said, okay,
Speaker 1: we want we want to sponsor this, We'll give you
Speaker 1: a five million dollar perse and uh would obviously you'd
Speaker 1: be happy, But maybe that's not what you envisioned. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've made this parallel in print between you know, Bobby
Speaker 1: Jones started a little tournament and it's got kind of big.
Speaker 1: That was in Georgia and now you we all know
Speaker 1: you loved down the fairway and you have this kinship
Speaker 1: with Jones and now you've started this little tournament. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you fear it could get too big? Like that
Speaker 1: actually happened something like that. I don't fear about big,
Speaker 1: but I I they just we're just not going to
Speaker 1: compromise and sell out to get sponsorship, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: what if if Jones and Clifford rob it's their genius
Speaker 1: and the Masters still to this day is they keep
Speaker 1: investing in the event. You know, they don't put signs
Speaker 1: on the sides of the fairways and they could have.
Speaker 1: Really they barely market that tournament. You know, all their
Speaker 1: efforts go into making the tournament better. And that's all
Speaker 1: we really want to do here and we'd love massive
Speaker 1: purse and like all that sort of stuff, but that
Speaker 1: that will come in time if we keep doing a
Speaker 1: good job at making it a better and better tournament.
Speaker 1: So we just want to keep you know, just there's
Speaker 1: no real crazy ambition except to just put on the
Speaker 1: best four rounds we can around the best four courses
Speaker 1: we can, you know, and if the players want to come,
Speaker 1: they want to come. We don't put any pressure on
Speaker 1: any big players to come play. We let them all
Speaker 1: know that it's on um Cam winning is really really
Speaker 1: exciting for us because he was probably the best player
Speaker 1: in the field obviously, Presidents Cup player. Hopefully he goes
Speaker 1: back and whispers in the locker room that, hey, look,
Speaker 1: if you're not doing anything later in the year, that
Speaker 1: Sam Belt Tournament is a pretty good tournament. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we just we just want everyone to have a good time.
Speaker 1: We just want to keep um just investing in the tournament,
Speaker 1: you know, and if if, if it elevates to something
Speaker 1: really big, that would be great, because this on a
Speaker 1: big scale with everybody watching would be pretty cool. You know.
Speaker 1: Um it's already really cool, you know, so we could
Speaker 1: only get better. So we're not chasing any of that
Speaker 1: we're just investing, invested in making it as good an
Speaker 1: event as we can. I love that. Momoko went, what
Speaker 1: did Cam say to one was over on the last green?
Speaker 1: Did you have any anything, any kind words? UM. It
Speaker 1: was nice. Actually, he kind of came up to me
Speaker 1: and said, may like great playing this week, and I
Speaker 1: was like, like, you know, it's it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's always cool to like have someone come up and
Speaker 1: say that to you, but to kind of hear that
Speaker 1: from a um, a player you know, of his of
Speaker 1: his UM level, who has achieved so much, you know,
Speaker 1: it was really cool, Like you know, like it was like,
Speaker 1: oh cool, like you know, yeah, you know he reckons
Speaker 1: that I've played kind of well as well, you know,
Speaker 1: and and there was a cool thing you know to
Speaker 1: hear that, and you know, yeah, it just kind of
Speaker 1: summed up you know what I was able to you know,
Speaker 1: do you know just playing three rounds with him as well,
Speaker 1: and I guess he got to watch a bit of
Speaker 1: a bit of my game, and I got to watch
Speaker 1: quite a bit of his game and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was really cool to hear. Yeah, there's an expression
Speaker 1: for that game recognized games. Uh. He was had to
Speaker 1: have been impressed. Um, well, this this is neat. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time to to share this,
Speaker 1: this achievement with with our listeners. Any any parting thoughts
Speaker 1: Jeff before we let you go, I mean, as as
Speaker 1: you reflect back on a very successful week, I mean
Speaker 1: not really. I mean I think I've said it all.
Speaker 1: I said, I think it went really well. We um,
Speaker 1: we we sort of set out what we set out
Speaker 1: sort of. The goal of the event is to have
Speaker 1: the best sort of players that we can find come
Speaker 1: and play the best courses that we have, you know, um,
Speaker 1: give everyone a great experience. Hopefully everybody learns a little bit.
Speaker 1: They have a bit of fun. Everyone gets in spired too,
Speaker 1: maybe start fading into right pins and drawing it into
Speaker 1: left pins and um, learning is as I think I've
Speaker 1: said a couple of times this week, I mean, these
Speaker 1: courses make you a better golfer, you know, and they
Speaker 1: make you want to be a better golfer because it's
Speaker 1: not just an execution contest as some Brian involved. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the spin and the shaping and um sort of thinking
Speaker 1: away around the golf course and just playing off such
Speaker 1: good grass and patting on such good grains and just
Speaker 1: looking at such a beautiful hole, all of those sort
Speaker 1: of things. So um, total success from our point. We
Speaker 1: had a great finish, obviously, great champions and a great
Speaker 1: contest at the end. Um just looking forward to next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah me too. All right, Well that was Jeff Ogilvie
Speaker 1: and Mocha Kabori um Alan Schipnuk. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: this very special fire Drill podcast from the sand Bell Invitational.
Speaker 1: We will certainly keep blowing it out on our channels
Speaker 1: the next few days with videos and stories and everything
Speaker 1: else to celebrate this this really cool, unique turn. So
Speaker 1: that's it for now, and thanks for listening. I bed
Speaker 1: big and I played to win, made a fortune within
Speaker 1: my shop game man, I ran the table, never thought
Speaker 1: I could fall down. The wintertime hit me like a cannon,
Speaker 1: the ball and now I can't shake this losing the street.
Speaker 1: Every road I take is a dead end stream. I
Speaker 1: got thoughts in my head, can't get him out, trying
Speaker 1: not to think what I'm thinking about. I got thoughts
Speaker 1: in my head, I can't get him out, and trying
Speaker 1: not to think what I'm thinking about