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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollly. He is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and what kind of an eventful day

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Speaker 3: is at the south Side Matt today. The Steelers re

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Speaker 3: signing cornerback Cam Sutton today and bringing him back on

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Speaker 3: a one year deal with the veter minimum. There's been

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Speaker 3: some speculation about that. Yeah, you know around draft time

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Speaker 3: and obviously you know, there was a relationship there between

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Speaker 3: course they drafted him in the third round in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Sport that was that draft class is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: That's a Connor class, right, that was what? Yeah, juju

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Speaker 4: juju Sutton then James Connor. Yeah, yeah, I'll take that all.

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Speaker 3: There was a so I think his Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 3: put together a list or maybe it was somebody put

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Speaker 4: The last ten years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, okay, and that one didn't get on there.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty strong.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty I mean, you got you got maybe the best.

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Speaker 3: You got a two the two hall of famer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got a Hall of Famer. Yeah, a guy who's

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Speaker 3: led to the league in sacks but three times now.

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Speaker 4: You got should really be a defensive MVP twice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, you got a thousand yard receiver.

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Speaker 4: Well you got all the good years out of Juju.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything you did with the good came with you.

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Speaker 3: You got a starting corner NFL cornerback, and you got

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Speaker 3: James Connor who's rushed for six thousand yards in his

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great class, especially considering it was a

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Speaker 4: top ten overall pick.

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Speaker 4: Him and those type of things too. Let's dig into

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Speaker 4: something though, Okay, yeah, let's do that. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 4: to get sorted out. It was plied down to a misdemeanor.

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Speaker 4: From what I understand, you might be have a better

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Speaker 4: feel than I do. I would think there's some sort

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so for the people don't that don't know.

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Speaker 3: When I first left the Observer Reporter as a full

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Speaker 3: time employee, I went to work for Domestic Violence Service

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Speaker 3: as a Southwestern Pennsylvania as a as a counselor. Well,

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Speaker 3: program called Coaching Boys the Men.

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Speaker 4: Very cool. I didn't know that, and and it.

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Speaker 3: Was all about teaching young men. You have football players, athletes,

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Speaker 3: things of that nature, that they are role models and

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Speaker 3: how to treat just the women in their lives, but

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Speaker 4: You know, the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you guys, you guys are leaders in the school.

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Speaker 3: of how everybody else will take your take their keys

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Speaker 4: This is part of the response.

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Speaker 3: You're in the spotlight. You're in the spotlight.

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Speaker 4: So that was one of the one women of course, so.

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Speaker 3: good look for Cam Sutton. He would understands it. And

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Speaker 3: But he says, look, I can't. I can't control what

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Speaker 3: All I can do is hold my head high and

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Speaker 3: You know. So we'll see how the league deals with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Steelers, that's not football and football yeah okay, but you

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: So that is what it is. But Cam Sutton on

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Speaker 3: the football field that helps this football team.

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Speaker 4: No doubt. And you know, start with a contract. It's

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Speaker 4: even if he suspended six games, you get eleven and

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go here because I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: he left? The Lions gave him a nice contract after.

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Speaker 3: A three years, thirty three million dollars.

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Speaker 4: After a really good year here with the Steelers. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, they made him offer year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So he goes to Detroit and if you paid

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Speaker 4: attention to Detroit's offseason, they traded for a prominent corner

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Speaker 4: of the problem than the answer. But they asked him

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Speaker 4: I mean, so he was asked to He's a different

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Speaker 3: With the Steelers. He was asked to be a cog

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which miscast. I mean, he's not that player. He's

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Speaker 3: Probably better than what they were playing with the year

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was better than the other ones on

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Speaker 4: they went and got three big time corners this offseason.

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Speaker 4: That was their number one priority. So you checked this

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Speaker 3: He played forty eight snaps last year in the slot.

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Speaker 3: He played eleven hundred snaps on the outside.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's always been a big snapcount guy for to

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Speaker 4: they did not use him as a slot the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Will I assume his role today is number one slot

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Speaker 3: seventy six in the slot in twenty twenty. Now, if

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Speaker 4: Had Mike Hilton, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, so they what they would do

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Speaker 3: is if it was third and three, Mike Hilton's on

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Speaker 3: the field, Okay, he was the coverage slot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: And he can do more than survive on the outside.

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Speaker 3: You look at his his final season with the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: That season, his final season, yes, right.

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Speaker 3: And even then he played six hundred and fifty snaps

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Speaker 4: Okay, yep, now that all adds up, and started his

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Speaker 4: I remember watching him, obviously more here than in Detroit,

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Speaker 4: It is at a very minimum cost, truly minimum. I

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Speaker 4: Oh he could do that right now.

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Speaker 3: Now you can put camp Sutton the free safety and

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Speaker 4: And the beauty of him is he can do all

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Speaker 4: Did he really?

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Speaker 4: Right and then specialty packages the Andrew conversation or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Now I don't have to do it. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well said. And I do think that's one

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Speaker 4: He's the backup. But it's not like he hasn't done

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Speaker 4: So all that interchangeability goes a long way, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know this is something to not discount as well. He

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, at that point, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's played against the Ravens twice a year.

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Speaker 3: So that's a very underrated signing, I think for the

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: Welcome back on Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: and Matt as I mentioned before the break, Cam Heyward

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Speaker 1: Last with ota? Is going in the mini camp and

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is there has there been any talks between you and

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Speaker 1: Just con be in communication, but there's nothing to really

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Speaker 3: How do you feel physically? You are you back to

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Speaker 1: There's no limitations, got most of my strength. It's just

441
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Speaker 1: about getting the cardigo downs. I think it's for me,

442
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: it's just uh, you know, I've been pushing it, trying

443
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: to get stronger, trying to strengthen everything. Now it's just

444
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: trying to condition it and make sure it can you know,

445
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: be up to these conditions, and then training camp and

446
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Speaker 1: then k and then sees them.

447
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Speaker 3: What were you at at doing the last year? I mean, wait,

448
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: were you ever sixty percent? Cheventy percent? When you after

449
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: you came.

450
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: Back, Uh, you know, it was more of a just

451
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: a game time decision every week. You know, I I

452
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: wasn't practiced on Thursdays and that was the first time

453
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: in my career I I've really had to uh really

454
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: just bite the bullet and not approached. And then it

455
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: was just responding to a game. And then uh, you know,

456
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: after the first game against Tennessee, it was you know,

457
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: it was just trying to climb up, climb up, uh

458
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: and thignty out of a hole. But you know, I

459
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: wanted to get back and I felt like I could,

460
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: but I knew I wasn't gonna be at a hundred percent,

461
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: but I had to push it to you know, be

462
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: there for my team.

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 6: Can to clarify you, reporting today doesn't is an indicative.

464
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Speaker 4: Of your contract, No, not at all. Yeah.

465
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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned leadership and about how you want

466
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Speaker 1: to be the best that you need to be.

467
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Speaker 5: Usually at this time.

468
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Speaker 6: Do you speak with any of the veterans or the

469
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Speaker 6: rookie players and tryduct or you know, give them some guidance.

470
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you approach stud Yeah, you know, whether it's on

471
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: the field, off the field, you know communication uh dinners,

472
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: just you know, letting them know I'm available for him.

473
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, I think it can be something as little

474
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Speaker 1: as just the steps on field goal block or field

475
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: goal protection. You know, I've been doing it for thirteen years.

476
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: Uh's still crazy. I'm still doing it, but uh, you know, Uh,

477
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: those are the type type of things I'm just giving

478
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Speaker 1: guidance to. And then you know, off the field, it's

479
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, what to expect around the city. Where should

480
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: you be, where you should be, how you can help yourself,

481
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: you know the little things.

482
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Speaker 7: Dam what are you looking for your contrac.

483
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking to be here, you know. I. Uh,

484
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: the value is what we decide. But you know, I

485
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: think for me, I I I wanna be you know,

486
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: value to have my position. You know, I I I

487
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: understand I came up a rough season, but I don't

488
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: think it's step down of where I can play. You know,

489
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: I think when I'm at the top of my game,

490
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, top five player in my position,

491
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: and you know I played a run in the past

492
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: and I bring leadership and you know that's not anything

493
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Speaker 1: I discover. Can you do you plan to be here

494
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: for a MEE camp?

495
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Speaker 6: I want to still the training camp.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

497
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Speaker 6: How difficult has it been the last two weeks to

498
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Speaker 6: not be here? I mean you said on your podcast

499
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Speaker 6: the first time you've never not been at OT eight.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it w it was difficult, But like you know,

501
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: the thing I got very frustrated with was just when

502
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: people questioned my communication with the team. You know, I

503
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: uh was communicating with guys left and right, and you know,

504
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: front office, coaches, teammates, and all I care about is

505
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: how I am with my teammates. I don't want them

506
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: to ever think I don't care about them or how

507
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not in it. And you know, you can say

508
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: whatever you want about me the besides that, but I'll

509
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: always dedicate anything I can't and I don't want that

510
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: to every question.

511
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: Isaiah said that it felt like sometimes you were hold

512
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 6: up somewhere watching some you text rule.

513
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: And say, hey, you missed this or you wanna make that.

514
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Well, like the first day he was batting all of

515
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Russ's passes. So I had to let him know. You know, I, uh,

516
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: you got advantage of that, and you gotta make sure

517
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: guys are you know uh know that you you still

518
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: care and you still wanna be a part of this. Uh,

519
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, just watching practice, there's a couple of those

520
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: things we're doing different. Whether I'm communicating with dumbbar or

521
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: other people.

522
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Speaker 7: You know, you know you're that you're also talking with

523
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 7: him and you you've given him point or start the

524
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 7: off season, just constant communication. How do you see newgro

525
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 7: as a person, you know, as far as how he's

526
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 7: approaching things, how you're getting ready for this season versus

527
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Speaker 7: his review.

528
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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, I think the thing with Keanu is

529
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: he's more comfortable. You know, you know that's first time

530
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: around the track. You know, it's actually like you can

531
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, uh catch his feet on your own. You know.

532
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're

533
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Speaker 1: going from Bold game. I don't even know Wisconsin playing

534
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: in the bowl game. Sorry Wisconsin, I don't you though,

535
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: But you know, personally, I just think when you go

536
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: from bowl game to training for the Combine to you know,

537
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: rookie mining camp to OTAs than you know, Mini can't.

538
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean the training camp, the regular season, you really

539
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: don't get a time to really catch yourself. You know,

540
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: he understands the playbook. Now you can be more vocal,

541
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, and I think when my absence the other

542
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: guy's absence, you know, you need guys like that to

543
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: step up and be ready for those opportunities.

544
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Speaker 3: What do you think it's a lie you had?

545
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: The saying you had during the season is a more

546
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Speaker 2: thorough What was.

547
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: Just tightened down everything? You know on my left side

548
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: cause I was overcompensating a little bit, but you know

549
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: it was there wasn't anything that lingers, you know, I

550
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Uh a growing is not like an

551
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Speaker 1: acl It's not like anything's that we're gonna ge affected again.

552
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: And you know, you know I'm feeling good, able to

553
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: do everything squat and heavy, uh, the power and speed,

554
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: so you know it feels good to get after again.

555
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: What do you think of what the team was able

556
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: to accomplish a off season in terms of bringing guys

557
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: like rushing and things of that nature.

558
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, I think they're all good acquisitions. But you know,

559
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: you never want to be known as a paper champion,

560
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: and so you can't win the off season. I think

561
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: the work gets done out here on the field, gets

562
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: done in the classroom, it gets done training, uh, you know,

563
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: and then you see where you're at in training camp,

564
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: and then you build on that. You know. I think

565
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: we got the right guys in the building. It's just

566
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: about putting a complete team on the field.

567
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 7: Damn how tippic called is it to separate the business

568
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 7: part of the game and the actual football team?

569
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, you you always wanna you always have

570
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: to treat it like a business because you know one

571
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: day it's gonna end. Uh, And that's penny job. Uh.

572
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: It's not like in college where you know, we got

573
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: four years guaranteed. You know, well, now you don't even

574
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: know what I yea, I don't know this crap, but

575
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: the transfer portal portal. But you know, you have to

576
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I still have love for this game, and I still

577
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: work my tail off, and I still put everything into it,

578
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: and that's not gonna change. But you have to know,

579
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: uh what you bring to the team and and what

580
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: your what your value is.

581
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll need to appeal to be out there with

582
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 6: your teammates.

583
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Today emotionally great. You know, we got a new uh

584
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: you got a new training staff and still learning the

585
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: the warm up a little different. Uh, but uh, you

586
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: know I loved it. Uh, you know, just getting after it,

587
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: learning new guys. Uh, going through the same drills I've

588
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: been doing by myself. Uh. I actually like having more

589
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: people around, cause like kind of go stir crazy, cra crazy.

590
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: When it's just you and another guy, You're like, damn,

591
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: I gotta go back up for another rep already. And

592
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: so you know, it's nice to be up here and

593
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: get a chance to, you know, do with my guys.

594
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: Do you have where you're confident and you will get

595
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: done with your emotions?

596
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Oh, oh I'm gonna i'm'a try to remain pretty neutral

597
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: cause uh you know, I don't wanna be too either way. Oh,

598
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: I know, is I wanna be here, but we'll see

599
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: what happens. Was my last year here, I I'm I

600
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: I've had a great career here, but uh, I'll look

601
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: forward to playing next year.

602
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 6: Can you hear what that second surgery you said at

603
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 6: this time was on the left side. Was the first one.

604
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: Around on the right side, right side during the season,

605
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: left side, and that was just tightening down my corner,

606
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: my cor muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor.

607
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, you can ask doctor Bradley, uh, doctor doctor

608
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Zuckerbron who uh did the surgery as well. You know,

609
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I if anything's gonna help me and you know, make

610
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: me a lot stronger for hearing out.

611
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: You say you were training with another guy who you.

612
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Was kind of Tyson. Oh. I've been training with him

613
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We

614
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: got a trainer up north, uh sho Cole Haley, who's

615
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: my guy, traded trained trained uh Heath Miller, Brett Hezel.

616
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: The multitude of guys that I all respect and we've

617
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: just been getting after it. Can maybe very few guys

618
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: historically thirty five that.

619
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: Get paid big contracts.

620
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: And do you think that's held against you. I think

621
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of history behind it. But you know,

622
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: for me, I I look at as I'm not looking

623
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: to be like anybody else. You know, my game is

624
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: different from everybody else in this league. You know, I

625
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: like to think, you know, I can play the run

626
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: in the past, and then that's why I'm different.

627
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: You know.

628
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I remember last year Mike t just brought to my attention.

629
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: You know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlisters,

630
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: and you know, my game's built on power and technique,

631
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: and those guys go into their forties and so you know,

632
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes.

633
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: But you know, I I We'll see what happens. I

634
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: isn there's not a lot of history, but I'm here

635
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: to make history and I'm here to you know, win

636
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: another super Bowl year and you know, have a great season.

637
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 7: Do you have a set go over yourself or how

638
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 7: many years if you wanna play in the NFL? Or

639
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: do you just take things to hear right here?

640
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm it it was. It was tough answering

641
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: that question right after the season. I will say this, guys,

642
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: I I can't keep answering that question right after the season.

643
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: That is not fair to the season, that's not fair

644
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: to my family. Uh you know, But in my mind,

645
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I got three years and I wanna maximize 'em. I

646
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: wanna play at a high level and I wanna go

647
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs. And you know, we got a

648
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: good team and I'm gonna do my part to be

649
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: ready for all those situations. And if you plan on

650
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: practicing when you report to the shover or is your

651
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: possibility that you might pulled.

652
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: In and enforce some new situations?

653
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I have not even thought that far. I'm ta taken

654
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: the day by day. Uh you know, uh uh I

655
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: told my agent and we talked about it. I mean

656
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: we were cool coming out here. You know, I'll be

657
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Speaker 1: here for many and then I'll be the returning grand

658
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what the work entails, but

659
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Speaker 1: when we get there, we'll we'll cross that porte. Why

660
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Speaker 1: Goddess an more remains to see what it is for years.

661
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Speaker 1: You know. There was a conversation between me Omar and

662
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Speaker 1: Mike t And there's certain guys that are one helmet guys,

663
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Speaker 1: you know, and I wanna be one of those one

664
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Speaker 1: helmet guys. And you know there's a there's a hunger

665
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it

666
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: up and calling her a career. To me, I think,

667
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, I got more bullets of fire, and uh,

668
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to do that was a meanie

669
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Speaker 1: last one.

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Speaker 7: You and Russell Wilson.

671
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Speaker 4: Are gonna be out there with Wiltonman.

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Speaker 3: Uh what wiltimate and me and of the Year past.

673
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Speaker 1: I saw Russ's on social media. Uh, but I haven't

674
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Speaker 1: had a chance to see it. Uh. I'll let that

675
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: surprise happens when it happens. But uh, you know, it's

676
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: it's cool to another Walter Payton Man the Year winner.

677
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, I think, Uh, it's an honor to be there.

678
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: And uh one I'll say one thing, I won't be here.

679
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you guys. So it's not a big deal.

680
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I won't because I have to do a Walter Payton

681
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: Man your thing on Thursday. So it's not like I'm skipping,

682
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: all right, But uh, you know, it's an honor to

683
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: be with Russ and you know, you know, it's in

684
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: honor of doing things in the community and doing great work.

685
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: And you know, the cool thing is as much as

686
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Speaker 1: we get honored and nominated for these things, the work

687
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Speaker 1: doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ's foundation.

688
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, we had an event for our foundation and

689
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Speaker 1: my mom was quick to, you know, tell Russ, hey,

690
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Speaker 1: we need to partner somehow, and I was like, wow,

691
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Speaker 1: let's just enjoy the event. But uh, you know, it's

692
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Speaker 1: a it's really cool to you know, be a part

693
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Speaker 1: of a lead.

694
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Speaker 3: Group that was Steelers defensive tech captain Kim Hayward with

695
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Speaker 3: Themble media yesterday upon his return to Steelers OTAs or

696
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: him showing up at the first OTA session, and so

697
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: matt I wrote a story based off of what he

698
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: had to say at Steelers dot com. Some of the

699
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: comments on there, I question how much some people know

700
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Speaker 3: about football.

701
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Speaker 4: That doesn't shock.

702
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: Me because immediately there's no way they should, they should,

703
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: you know, look to extend him at all. He's too

704
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: injury prone.

705
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: Injury prone.

706
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: Last year was the first time he's missed significant time

707
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Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen.

708
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that's never been a label for him.

709
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: And he plays through all kinds of stuff and heals quickly,

710
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: and I mean he guts it out.

711
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Played fifteen games in twenty seventeen, sat out the regular

712
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: season finale because it was meaningless. Twenty eighteen sixteen games,

713
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen sixteen games, twenty twenty fifteen games, everything was

714
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: wrapped up for the regular sheets. Okay, Yeah, twenty twenty

715
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: one seventeen games, twenty twenty two seventeen games.

716
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 4: So where this injury gets hurt once and now.

717
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: He gets hurt once in the past ten years and

718
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: now he's injury prone.

719
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: That's insane to be. I mean, yes, if you play

720
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: that many snaps that many, you're gonna get bumped, some

721
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: bruises and be questionable here and there and not be

722
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: out there for every Wednesday practice. At his age, that

723
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: is I was gonna say that's normal. No, that's not

724
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: even normal. I mean usually guys his age that take

725
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: his beating were gone years ago or have missed way

726
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: more time than that. That That to me is not

727
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: an argument whatsoever.

728
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: We're talking about a guy who this season will break

729
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: the Steelers record for most games played by defensive player,

730
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: and people were talking about him like.

731
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Speaker 5: Him all this time, not reliable, can't come on to

732
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Speaker 5: people at least know what you're talking about, right, Yes,

733
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Speaker 5: he's coming off and in Yes, that's the first time ever.

734
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

735
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Speaker 3: It's the first time. He was twenty sixteen when he

736
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: had a torn pack. Yeah, yeah, okay, twenty sixteen is

737
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: ancient Chinese history.

738
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, a thousand years ago. So a couple of things

739
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: stuck with me. Of the interview is a really good interview,

740
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: of course, and he was well spoken as always. He

741
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: thinks he has three more years right, and he's very

742
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: on top of this. It's just throwing it out there.

743
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 4: I like what we said about like powerlifters and things

744
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: of that, nague. He's like the way that I play.

745
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how long powerlifters last. I

746
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: was shocked that they go into their forties. But I

747
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: guess that's promising. And then I got to kick out

748
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 4: of it earlier. He's like hoping I don't have to

749
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: always talk about my groin anymore.

750
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Speaker 1: You know.

751
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 4: It's just kind of funny. Yah. Yeah, because the injury

752
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: things are, it's done and over.

753
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: I mean, the only reason I asked him about it,

754
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: that you know, is because he had the second surgery

755
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: just to kind of open the door to that. And

756
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 3: as he said, the second surgery didn't involve the right growing,

757
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: which is the one he had injured. The second injury was,

758
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: or the second surgery was to tighten up his left

759
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: growing because he had favored the left growing or the left.

760
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: Leg probably to put so much stress on right, and so.

761
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: They went in and tightened that up as well. So

762
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: essentially he's got two new groins.

763
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Speaker 4: Good. He's a new man.

764
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: He's a new man, and you know, I think when

765
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: you look at this. I mean, guys played one hundred

766
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: and ninety four career games. You know, one hundred and

767
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: fifty nine of them are starts, eighty and a half

768
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: career sacks. She's you know, if you look at it,

769
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, he had

770
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: combined one hundred and sixty three tackles in twenty and

771
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Speaker 3: a half.

772
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 4: Sacks and a lot of batted down passes and game

773
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: influencing plays and double teams absorbed.

774
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: His career has gotten better as it's gone on because

775
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: he is a power player. His game is predicated not

776
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: on not on speed and agility, but on power and technique.

777
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: And the power and technique have gotten better and better

778
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: and better.

779
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's a better feel for me experience

780
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: Max on top of that, and that he's hurting for that.

781
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: But I thought he had his best season in twenty

782
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: twenty two, right, and second best season in twenty twenty one, right,

783
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: So if twenty twenty four can be similar to those,

784
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 4: he's a no brainer.

785
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah right. I think they're gonna extend it, by the way,

786
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: for Yeah, I mean it's gonna happen. And the people,

787
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: the people who are who are carping about that. Guess what,

788
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: it's not your money.

789
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: Not your money, and they have a lot of it

790
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: to spend. If so, if they show be it right

791
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: and he's a team leader, Waller maint and pay the

792
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: man of the Year thing. I mean, he's not gonna

793
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: be there Thursday. Don't hold that against him. Like, but

794
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: do I expect him to be the best defensive tackle

795
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: in the league next year?

796
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: No?

797
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: I expect him to be better than last year.

798
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's yeah.

799
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 4: I mean that's a good jumping off point.

800
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: Well, and that's a good jumping off point for our

801
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: next segment because we're going to take a continue our

802
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: look at the Pro Football Focus after we're doing that. Okay,

803
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: let's see you're Pro Football Focus ranks, Cam Hayward. Okay,

804
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty four, we'll do that. In return.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to

806
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

807
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

808
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

809
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back on Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson

811
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Speaker 3: and Matt. We mentioned the Pro Football Focus rankings, and

812
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: we got the defensive interior rankings here in front of

813
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: us that they're going on here, this one by Sam Monson.

814
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: So Number one he is Chris Jones.

815
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Speaker 4: I get it. Yeah, I mean he can come and go,

816
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: but the Chiefs it's kind of like with Kelsey. Two,

817
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 4: they save it for prime moment.

818
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more of a pass rusher than his run stopper.

819
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: Totally disruptive.

820
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: Number two Dexter Lawrence.

821
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: He's remarkable. I mean he lines up on the nose

822
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: and always is double teamed and it's still an elite

823
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: pass rusher in addition to the nose stuff. Yeah, I

824
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: think people don't understand how good he is.

825
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Three is Quinn and Williams.

826
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I totally get that too, total package.

827
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Four is Derek Brown.

828
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 4: He's by far the best Panthers player, and the poor

829
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: guy might go down and infamy and no one will

830
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: ever know who he is. I mean, like, if I

831
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: have anyone off the Panthers team, maybe him. I mean

832
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: he's a power. He'd fit in tremendously around here.

833
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: Number five Cam Hayward. Yeah, yeah, so again, folks, this

834
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: isn't our rankings. No, this is from Pro Football Focus.

835
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: This this, even coming off of what happened last season,

836
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward is still a top five defensive tackle in

837
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: this league.

838
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: This one's worth reading because his scores are so good

839
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: in previous years. Kind of blows you away. And I

840
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: think I talked about this on another podcast and I

841
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: just said, respect. You know, the league respects what he does.

842
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: They think this is a blip. This is not the

843
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: beginning of the end. It's just an Yeah. He dealt

844
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: with an injury for the first time in a while.

845
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it was in the first game.

846
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: First terrible time, first quarter of the first game. Number

847
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: six to Forrest Buckner.

848
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: Similar type of player. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, long,

849
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: powerful leader. It's really really good and still getting done.

850
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: They gave him money recently.

851
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: Seven Javon Hargrave.

852
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: A lot more of an upfield player than you think. Yeah,

853
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: brace my heart, wish was still here.

854
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

855
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Eight Jeffrey Simmons a little more up and down than

856
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: those guys and less around him, but he could be

857
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: one next.

858
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very disruptive. Nine Jalen Carter.

859
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: As the whole team did, and as a lot of rookies.

860
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: Did he faded down the stretch? Yeah, but if you

861
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: had asked me week ten, I thought he was running

862
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: away with defensive Rookie of the Year. Yeah, and obviously

863
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: the ability is insane.

864
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: Ten Christian Wilkins, Yeah.

865
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Speaker 4: I mean, big money player goes the Raiders. Now it's

866
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: a big time team leader. I mean Pro Bowl type guy.

867
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Speaker 3: Eleven Justin Metabuke.

868
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, rising Yeah, I mean he's I don't think he's

869
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: a one hit wonder, but he's only had one hit

870
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 4: so far. Twelve Christian Barmore super underrated. He's like like Brown.

871
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a terrible team. If he was

872
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: with the Chiefs or the Bills or people would be

873
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 4: like some one of the best defense tackles in the league.

874
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Speaker 3: Thirteen DJ Reider with fans.

875
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: Probably won't ever go higher because his style of play,

876
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: But he's going to be missed in Cincinnati.

877
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: Yes he is. Flights have a nice group now, yeah,

878
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: they do. Fourteen Jonathan Allen with the Commanders.

879
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: He was a little slower this past year. It's I

880
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: hope it's not a It could be because of ownership

881
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: and how things have gone there, but they paid Allen

882
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: and then he was okay, not great. Then they paid

883
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: pain and he was okay and not great, and then

884
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: they drafted uh Newton from Illinois. I'm like, oh, something

885
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 4: a little fit. What's going on here?

886
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: Uh?

887
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: Fifteen Alien McNeil with the Lions.

888
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: He's an up and comer too. People should know him

889
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: and Reader are going to be a hand absolutely.

890
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: He was actually in the same fruiting class is Peyton

891
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: Wilson in the.

892
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: State Wow, Okay, okay, I mean Wilson was there for

893
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: six years and Eleam came out. This would be his

894
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: fourth year, I guess.

895
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sixteen Kobe Turner with the Rams.

896
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, out of nowhere. I mean, really had a strong

897
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: push for Defensive Rookie of the Year too. It seems

898
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: a little high.

899
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: But it seems a little high. Yeah. Seventeen Leonard Williams

900
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: with the Seahawks.

901
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to put him in the Cam Buckner

902
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: Campbell class, but he's been doing it a long time

903
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 4: and has been really productive or really solid. Won't ever

904
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: go to the Hall of Fame, you know, he's top

905
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 4: five pick way back when.

906
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: Eighteen David Anyamato with the Falcons.

907
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: Okay, seems a little high. But he's disruptive.

908
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: Nineteen Eric Armstead with the Jaguars.

909
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: I like him a lot, I mean really long, like Buckaner.

910
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: You mean, yeah, yeah, a little different. Yeah, he's a

911
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: little more edgy than any of these guys we mentioned.

912
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: Twenty Zach Siler with the Dolphins.

913
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: I think that's a big reason they let Wilkins go.

914
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: Not that they're in the same class, but he's a

915
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 4: solid workman like quality start and cheaper and cheaper right right.

916
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: Twenty one Vitevea with the Buccaneers.

917
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: That seems too low to me. Maybe he did in

918
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: grade great this year. I don't know, but I think

919
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: he's a handful in g like tenth.

920
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: Twenty two is Ed Oliver with the Bills.

921
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: The smallest guy by far on here, all up field,

922
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: but he makes places.

923
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: Twenty three Oh so odiggy zooah with the Cowboys.

924
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean their run defense was really poor. They

925
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: got gashed up the middle a lot. But he's more

926
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: of the three technique upfield guy. Mazzie Smith didn't really

927
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: work out.

928
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 3: Twenty four dayk One Jones with the Bills.

929
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: Another quality, tough guy, you know, yeah, beefy.

930
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: Twenty five Byron Murphy with the Seahawks. I don't know

931
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: how you put a rookies on there.

932
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the prospect.

933
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: Twenty six Dalvin Tomlinson with the Browns.

934
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: More run stuffer, thick, hard to move, eat f double teams,

935
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: but he's a little more than that too.

936
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: He also had a career low forty nine point two

937
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus run defense grade last year.

938
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me. Yeah, yeah, they did not stop

939
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: the run. Well, they gave him pretty good money too.

940
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 8: Twenty seven Kenny Clark with the Packers. Yeah, he's sort

941
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 8: of reminds me of Betton a little bit. Yeah, I

942
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 8: mean that he's the nose that could also be a

943
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 8: three to four end or all over the front. Their

944
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 8: whole defense was a little down last year.

945
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: Twenty eight Grady Jarrett with the Falcons.

946
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: They started to slip, Yeah, I mean unfortunately. I mean,

947
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: he's the geno Atkins Mold, really short, but he's slipping.

948
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Because his game was predicated dedicated on that quick first.

949
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 4: Step and yeah it's bound to go. Yeah.

950
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: Twenty nine Devonte Wyatt with the Packers.

951
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: I haven't heard much Freed.

952
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: I don't know about that one.

953
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd have to do more homework on him first

954
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: round pick just two years ago. I mean there's ability there.

955
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 4: He was him and Jordan Davis for the Georgia guys

956
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: that year.

957
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Thirty Sheldon Rankins with the Bengals.

958
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 4: He's quietly had a decent career. Yeah, I mean I

959
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: think he's like, like, he's a lot like Ogajobi to me. Yeah, right,

960
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, you can do a lot of stuff.

961
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: Thirty one Grover Stewart with the Colts.

962
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: He's someone that should be more recognized. Yeah, he's hard

963
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: to play against.

964
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: Their defense with him and without him was yes day.

965
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, And he's a lot different than Buckner.

966
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then thirtys Deron Payne.

967
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: With the Commanders and a year ago he would have

968
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: been tenth or so. Yeah, those two Washington slash Bama

969
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: first round picks, they need a little more out of.

970
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't be surprising if next year at this time

971
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: we're talking about kean U Benton on this list.

972
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: Agree. I'm not saying the Steelers should, but I wonder

973
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: if somebody could pry one of those Commanders away from them.

974
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 4: Considering what they're making and drafting Newton and early in

975
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: the second round, and I expect Benton to be on

976
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 4: this list next year.

977
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a pretty good list though, that's the Yeah,

978
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: that's a really good list. And oh, by the way,

979
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward fifth fifth. Again we didn't do these rankings. Yeah,

980
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: these are you know, Pro Football Focus rankings, and they

981
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: think Cam Hayward is the fifth best defensive tackle in

982
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: the league.

983
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 4: When I clicked on it the first time, I thought

984
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: he'd be like eleventh or twelve. Yeah, and I know

985
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: that the last few years he's been third, fourth, behind

986
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 4: like Donald who's not on there anymore, and not many others.

987
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: But I just thought that's just the ultimate respect. You know,

988
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: they realize what he is.

989
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the

990
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I'm you're listening to the drive here on

991
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more of these

992
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus defensive rankings when we return right after this.

993
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: That's going to do it for our number one. We'll

994
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: be back with our number two.