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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of Play and Box starts right now,

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Speaker 1: two weeks from election day. Crazy to say it out loud,

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Speaker 1: but this is where we are. Two weeks from destiny Day.

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Speaker 1: We will find out how all this is going and

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Speaker 1: finally get answers for you. We're going to dive into

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Speaker 1: all that, the data, the early voting, the last ditch

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Speaker 1: efforts from the campaigns to convince that last tranch of

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Speaker 1: voters to come to their side. So we shall get

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Speaker 1: into all of that. Liz Cheney on the campaign trail

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Speaker 1: for Kamala, a lot of focus on that. I guess

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Speaker 1: they think in the green rooms of MSNBC and CNN

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Speaker 1: that the never Trump contingent of America is big enough

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Speaker 1: to sway the election. I doubt it, but we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into that. CBS still will not release the transcript of

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Speaker 1: the forty five minute long Kamala Harris interview they edited

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Speaker 1: see the transcript of the whole thing? It was recorded.

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Speaker 1: They had the consent of the subject, Kamala Harris in

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Speaker 1: this case, to record the interview. Why not let us

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Speaker 1: at least see the transcript? If you're not going to air,

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Speaker 1: they won't. People are asking questions about that Daniel Penny

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Speaker 1: case in New York. Remember the guy who stepped in

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Speaker 1: when a disturbed individual was threatening women on and threatening

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Speaker 1: people on a train, and Daniel Penny put him in

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Speaker 1: a headlock, and unfortunately the individual died, And now Penny

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Speaker 1: is facing murder charges, I believe in New York City.

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Speaker 1: So we will look at that case a little bit.

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Speaker 1: In what's going on there, Leclai. The biggest single thing

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Speaker 1: today is that we already have We're two weeks from

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Speaker 1: election day, but we're starting to get a pretty strong

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Speaker 1: sense of at least early trends in some key states.

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Speaker 1: I went last night and voted in Miami Beach, so

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Speaker 1: I joined all my sandal wearing brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 2: How long was your weight? What was your experience? That

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Speaker 2: was the first day you could vote early in Florida? Right, smooth, easy?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was lively.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of people at early voting, but

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Speaker 1: I think they told me what by the time I

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Speaker 1: got there, with maybe an hour left before the polls

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Speaker 1: closed for the day, that they had over a thousand

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Speaker 1: residents of Miami Beach I think only has like forty

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Speaker 1: or fifty thousand people who live here, so one thousand

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Speaker 1: and one day of early voting is pretty strong. So

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Speaker 1: they they, yeah, there are a lot of people. It

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Speaker 1: was well run. One thing that I did take a

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Speaker 1: real moment with Clay was, you know, we have a

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Speaker 1: couple of very high profile ballot referendu that are underway here,

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Speaker 1: one about abortion and one about weed marijuana legalization, and

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Speaker 1: then there were all these other ballot ballot issues that

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a pretty high reading COMPREHENDI I

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Speaker 1: know that. I got to tell you. I looked at

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Speaker 1: some of these and it was about disciplinary measures under

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Speaker 1: the collective Bargaining Agreement for the I mean, you're getting

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Speaker 1: into this, You're going, you know, for for city officials

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Speaker 1: or something. I'm like, what, And it's just it was

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Speaker 1: it was a reminder, you know, there's informed there. You

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Speaker 1: can be very informed of the national level when you

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Speaker 1: get down into the local level or even the state level.

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Speaker 1: How they phrase these things on ballot referendums is enormously

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Speaker 1: important because you can be plugged in and be like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what is this trying to what is this about? I

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Speaker 1: had never even heard about this one before.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people learn that because even

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Speaker 2: you can be a normal voter, and by normal, I

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Speaker 2: mean you know who you're voting for, let's say in

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Speaker 2: the presidency, Senate, governor congress person, and you cannot be

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Speaker 2: that very well informed as you move further down the ballot.

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people learn this, particularly

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Speaker 2: parents when it came to school boards, because you just

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Speaker 2: weren't doing your research to think about who was sitting

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Speaker 2: on the school board. Because prior to COVID a lot

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Speaker 2: of people hadn't gone to school board meetings. You weren't

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Speaker 2: paying attention to what the rules were. And I felt

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Speaker 2: that way sometimes on the ballot initiatives. I've had to

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Speaker 2: vote on buck. I've got a law degree, and I've

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Speaker 2: paused reading some of the ballot initiatives in Tennessee, like

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Speaker 2: what in the world, Like what does this do? What

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Speaker 2: is the impact? How should I vote? I had it

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Speaker 2: known that they were going to be on there. My

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Speaker 2: ballot I voted on Friday only had four questions and

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Speaker 2: it was president, Senate, Congress, and then my state representative.

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Speaker 2: So it took me twenty five seconds to go through

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Speaker 2: and vote for everybody now there was a long line.

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Speaker 2: I have my dad in a wheelchair because he's got

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Speaker 2: a broken hip, and I think everybody who helped out there,

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Speaker 2: but I do think you and I have now done

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Speaker 2: our civic duty. We are telling you to go vote early.

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you this, Buck, I spent the

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Speaker 2: morning going through data because I like to be a

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Speaker 2: data nerd in some way. Nevada unheard of. Republicans are

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Speaker 2: in the lead with early voting underway. North Carolina unheard of.

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Speaker 2: Republicans are in the lead with early voting underway. And

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Speaker 2: I say this because they break down some states by

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Speaker 2: Republican and Democrat voters. Other states do not. For Georgia,

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Speaker 2: for instance, does not break down Democrat versus Republican voters.

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Speaker 2: They do in Florida, where Republicans are already in the lead,

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Speaker 2: even if you count mail in ballots, which typically have

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Speaker 2: been beneficial to Democrats, and they were again in Florida,

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Speaker 2: but not as much. And our friend Ryan Gerdusky has

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Speaker 2: been sharing absentee ballot request numbers from Pennsylvania. As we

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Speaker 2: said officially two weeks out, Democrats are going to come

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Speaker 2: Buck nowhere near requesting the same number of absentee ballots

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Speaker 2: that they did in twenty twenty, and so all of

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Speaker 2: the trend lines, same thing happening in Michigan in terms

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Speaker 2: of way fewer absentee ballot request. All of the trend

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Speaker 2: lines are looking good. But go vote. And if you're

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Speaker 2: one of those people who's gonna send us messages saying

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Speaker 2: they're gonna cheat, okay, what are you doing with your

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Speaker 2: own individual opportunity to combat a cheat? Are you showing

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Speaker 2: up and monitoring election polls instead of emailing us like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna cheat or tweeting us they're gonna cheat. Do

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Speaker 2: everything you can. Don't come to us and just send

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Speaker 2: a message. Volunteer your time.

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Speaker 1: And if you're believe very strongly that there will be

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Speaker 1: widespread cheating efforts, it's incumbent on you to make sure

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Speaker 1: that the beat the cheat mantra is in your head,

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Speaker 1: which means you gotta have the larger the margin of

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Speaker 1: legitimate votes that trump as as as victory in any state,

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Speaker 1: the harder it would be for them to get away

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Speaker 1: with the cheating. Right, This is the you have to

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Speaker 1: remember if somebody has to manufacture two hundred votes in

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Speaker 1: say a Senate election, somewhere that's tough to catch. If

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Speaker 1: that's a whole lot harder to slip by. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I also just think people, you can create this

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Speaker 1: truth is it's looking good for Republicans right now. The

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Speaker 1: of these states. I mean, Clay, the only states that

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Speaker 1: in Mississippibama, New Hampshire, but basically the whole country. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So we're really telling you right now, go vote today

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Speaker 1: unless you live in a state that you know hasn't

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Speaker 1: But as soon as it is, you know, fair game

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Speaker 1: and lawful for you to go and cast your early ballot.

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Speaker 1: Do it early, because you're helping your team by doing

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Speaker 1: it early. That's why Clay went early, That's why I

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Speaker 1: went early. And this was part of how Democrats got

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to be president the last four years. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they ran the mail in ballot early voting

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Speaker 1: playbook to a t, and we were very much our party.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans were very much vote in an election day,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to sort of couch this without

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Speaker 1: getting too far ahead of myself, but I think that

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Speaker 1: the GOP woke up, learned some lessons the last time around,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to have a much more efficient vote

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Speaker 1: voting machinery. Right now, We're into the machinery. Up to

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Speaker 1: this point, it's been arguments for the candidates and arguments

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Speaker 1: for the party. Now it's just how do you actually

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Speaker 1: get ballots in the polling place lawfully and count it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's the whole game, right, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: Cheney says about Kamala Well, and.

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Speaker 2: I think this is important. New York Times seventeen million

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Speaker 2: of you have already voted, seventeen million, including both Buck

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Speaker 2: and myself. And here's some early data of why I'm

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Speaker 2: optimistic Buck. In the first three days of early voting

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, three hundred and seventy thousand Democrat voters

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Speaker 2: and forty eight thousand Republicans. This is data from a

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Speaker 2: University of Florida professor. This year, three hundred thousand Democrats

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, Republicans have knocked off about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand in theory vote lead from what Democrats have

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Speaker 2: of the top guys in Nevada at breaking down all

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Speaker 2: of the data on election vote. I want to share

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Speaker 2: do think it's interesting. John Ralston said, Early Voting blog

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Speaker 2: is updated. Very big day for Republicans in Nevada. They

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Speaker 2: have now a rare statewide lead. Clark County, which is

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Speaker 2: where Las Vegas is, has almost nothing of a firewall.

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Speaker 2: Republicans had a historically good day opening up early voting

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Speaker 2: in Nevada. Now again fourteen days till the election. We

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Speaker 2: want nothing that we say in the next two weeks

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Speaker 2: to in any way discourage you from going out and voting,

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Speaker 2: from getting your friends and family out to vote. But

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Speaker 2: I do think it's important to know that things are

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Speaker 2: moving in a really good direction, and sometimes people want

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Speaker 2: to be front runners. When things are going well, Let's

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Speaker 2: and let's put this thing away to your point, buck

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Speaker 2: where it's too big to rig, as Trump has argued,

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Speaker 2: don't make it come down to a couple of thousand

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Speaker 2: votes in a variety of states. Let's blow them out.

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Speaker 2: Let's don't let the officials involve themselves in this. Let's

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Speaker 2: make it too big to rig.

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Speaker 1: I think that everything that I'm seeing so far should

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Speaker 1: be encouraging to your point about front running or being

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Speaker 1: in pole position, being out in the lead, it's too

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Speaker 1: early to definitively say that. I would just say now

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Speaker 1: is when you can be a part of that process

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Speaker 1: and a part of creating or strengthening that lead. Let's

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Speaker 1: go vote right now. I mean if you can legally

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Speaker 1: and not finish the show. But you know what I mean, today, tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Two weeks from election day, thanks for hanging with us

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Speaker 2: Like I said, we're gonna head up to Michigan, battleground

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Speaker 2: Now we'll see how accurate I am in that assessment,

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Speaker 2: And what's extraordinary about this Buck and I saw you

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Speaker 1: Know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this forty two test second clip of CBS News.

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Speaker 6: Okay, wait, wait, hey, Clay Clay, if you took that

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Speaker 1: I don't know why Why does anyone watch these people?

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Speaker 1: Nora O'Donnell is an actress, She knows nothing. Margaret Brennan

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Speaker 1: Like I know the answer to it Clay. But that

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Speaker 2: I think it's so important to play things like that

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Speaker 8: It's the biggest scandal out there, Leslie.

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Speaker 8: Of course it can be verified. Excuse me, they found

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Speaker 9: He's got into hiding.

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Speaker 8: He's prepared for your debate. Oh it's taken him five

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Speaker 2: their own interview because sixty minutes wasn't going to air it.

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Speaker 1: Here is cut eight.

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Speaker 8: The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.

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Speaker 8: They spied at my campaign. Of course, there is a

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Speaker 8: top of the place, Leslie. They spied at my campaign

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Speaker 8: and they got cald.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is sixty minutes, and we can't put

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Speaker 6: on things.

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Speaker 9: We can't do.

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Speaker 8: You open it up because it's bad for Biden, can't, Leslie.

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Speaker 8: They spied on my campaign. It's been totally verified. It's

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Speaker 8: been Just go down and get the papers. They spied

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Speaker 8: at my campaign. They got caught, and then they went

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Speaker 8: much further than that, and they got caught. And you

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Speaker 8: will see that, Leslie, and you know that, but you

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Speaker 8: just don't want to put it on the hat.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I don't know that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And you get back to your interview, I mean sixty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: How is it that they can claim that it's not

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Speaker 2: journalistically proper to share everything that Kamala Harris said in

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Speaker 2: her forty five minute interview. If the entire goal of

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Speaker 2: their interview is to make voters more informed, wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: want every opinion that she has to be discussed, disseminated

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Speaker 2: and analyzed by voters so they can determine whether or

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Speaker 2: not she's qualified. If that were the real goal, there's

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Speaker 2: no way to defend refusing to release a transcript.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the goal of the legacy media networks is to

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Speaker 1: get Kamala Harris selected. That's the goal. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know that, I know that, but I think it's just

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Speaker 1: is worth saying it out loud. Journalism doesn't really exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: And the version of journalism that we were raised with

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Speaker 1: and that a lot of people were raised with right

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Speaker 1: now was always at some level of fiction. This is

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Speaker 1: a whole other part of the conversation, but it has

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Speaker 1: never been objective. It was less rapidly left wing perhaps

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Speaker 1: in the past, but it has always been Democrat aligned

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Speaker 1: and left of center. It's just gotten crazier, particularly the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years, than we've ever seen it before. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they they want I said this at the

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Speaker 1: time when you had David Weir being a debate opponent

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump in that debate with Kamala Harris. While

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Speaker 1: he got a lot of public repudiation for it, the

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Speaker 1: truth is he helped his career. The next contract that

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Speaker 1: he signs at c ABC is going to be rock

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Speaker 1: solid and maybe you know some extra you know, an

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Speaker 1: extra zero on there or something, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: They're going to take good care of him because he

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Speaker 1: did what he's supposed to do. According to the people

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Speaker 1: in charge, and the whole thing about this being aboutjournalism

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Speaker 1: and somehow informing the public is a con. It's a lie,

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Speaker 1: and they have tried everything they can with Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: It is remarkable, though, I think Clay, there's almost with

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Speaker 1: the media, there's a lack of connection to what Norton

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Speaker 1: did you see this? This is a perfect example. I

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Speaker 1: was sort of stumbling into this as I said this,

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Speaker 1: or I reminded of this as I say it. There

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Speaker 1: The New Yorker is like what people who think they're

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Speaker 1: fancy and New York read, but it's communist propaganda. And

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Speaker 1: he says he hasn't met a Trump voter in like

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Speaker 1: ten years. This is what a guy actually says, How

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Speaker 1: is that? How is that possible? Or he hasn't met

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Speaker 1: a Republican in fifteen years? I forget what it was,

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Speaker 1: something insane. The guy lives in New York City. I

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Speaker 1: think he said in fifteen years, he hasn't met anybody

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Speaker 1: Something crazy, and I'm sure he's exaggerating, but the point

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Speaker 1: you're abnormal.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you're a reporter in any way and your

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Speaker 2: circle is that cloistered such that you don't interact with

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Speaker 2: half the country, that's not some sort of badge of

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Speaker 2: honor for you. It just proves how outside of the

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Speaker 2: mainstream you actually are, that you can't even comprehend how

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Speaker 2: half the country is a living And again, I'm putting

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Speaker 2: myself on the line here a little bit. I've been

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Speaker 2: wrong before, but I think Trump's gonna win the popular vote.

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Speaker 2: I think He's gonna get more votes than Kamala. If

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Speaker 2: you guys keep showing up and keep driving turnout like

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us fourteen days until

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Speaker 2: the election. We go up now to Michigan, my wife's

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Speaker 2: home state. I was just there a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and I saw many of this man's ads running during

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Speaker 2: football games I was watching. He is Mike Rodgers and

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Speaker 2: he is running for Senate in Michigan. Mike, we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you taking the time. Where are you in the state

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Speaker 2: right now? And what are you seeing? Two weeks from

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Speaker 2: election day?

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Speaker 7: So we're seeing tons of momentum. I'm in the town

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Speaker 7: called Okaemus, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: We're having a bit of an.

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Speaker 7: Event today with a large industry here and all their

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Speaker 3: We're just seeing a ton of momentum.

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Speaker 7: People are starting to come home and so that's why

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Speaker 7: you see all the polls tightening and they're starting to

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Speaker 7: realize that the Democrats are just in the kind of

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Speaker 7: implosion mode. My opponents now thought that Trump was the

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Speaker 7: end of democracy. Now talking about Trump and her campaign ads,

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Speaker 7: it just tells you the direction that they're going and

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Speaker 7: how farte I'll go to say just about anything to

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Speaker 7: get elected. And I think that is actually helping us

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Speaker 7: Amongst independents. We're doing well amongst black men in the state,

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Speaker 7: We're doing well with Muslims, and we are just killing

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Speaker 7: it amongst auto workers because they know that Democrats have

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Speaker 7: just nearly killed the auto industry here.

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Speaker 1: Mike, appreciate you being with us. I saw some polling

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Speaker 1: data out yesterday that actually showed Arab Americans I think

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Speaker 1: it was in Michigan specifically breaking for Trump by a

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Speaker 1: pretty solid majority. Is that lining up with what you

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Speaker 1: are seeing within the state, because one would thinks that

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Speaker 1: would have a lot of down ballid implications given how

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Speaker 1: many Muslims live in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very significant voting block. And what's significant

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Speaker 7: about it in this case is that this is a

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Speaker 7: voting block that was.

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Speaker 3: Traditionally the Democrats just counted on.

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Speaker 7: They didn't work very hard at it, and they automatically

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Speaker 7: assumed that they would get the Arab Muslim vote here,

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Speaker 7: and for a large part of it they did. And

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Speaker 7: so you know, those three coalitions I just talked about

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Speaker 7: Arab Muslims, their coalition falling apart the Democrats. Same with

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Speaker 7: auto workers. I know that the union leadership went one way.

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Speaker 7: The members who actually build things in.

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Speaker 3: America come in our way.

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Speaker 7: And same with black males. They are just kind of

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Speaker 7: throwing up their hands. Sand I've been doing this over

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Speaker 7: and over and over again. They keep telling us there

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Speaker 7: for us, and we nothing happens. And so we're going

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Speaker 7: to do our traditional coalitions and they are very strong,

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Speaker 7: and the coalitions that normally vote for the Democrats are

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Speaker 7: all fractured. Now you know why we're going to win

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Speaker 7: in November.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you hit on something that I think is really

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Speaker 2: important because it's happening not only in Michigan but also

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That is, Democrats senate candidates there are

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Speaker 2: putting Donald Trump in their ads and saying they're going

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Speaker 2: to work with Trump. I'm betting you are not putting

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Speaker 2: Kamala in your ads and saying you are going to

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Speaker 2: work with Kamala. Isn't that a pretty good sign that

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Speaker 2: she's not doing that well, that the Democrats want Trump

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Speaker 2: and theirs, and I bet the only thing you'll have

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Speaker 2: in Kamala, I mean, your ads is what a disaster

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Speaker 2: she'll be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, completely.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at the fact that people

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Speaker 7: are having a hard time, you know, paying for groceries,

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Speaker 7: and some families are just telling me these heart wrenching

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Speaker 7: kids because the prices have gone up so much. People

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Speaker 7: aren't forgiving the Biden Harris and Slatka, and they've been

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Speaker 7: She voted one hundred percent with this. People are starting

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Speaker 7: to wake up and think, you know what, I just

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Speaker 7: can't take this anymore. And so you know, listen, I

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Speaker 7: would work with anybody, but the problem is you can't

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Speaker 7: use their and justify another four years. You just cannot.

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Speaker 7: And so they're not talking about issues. They've spent the

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Speaker 7: last six months with false negative ads. And what we've

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Speaker 7: found that false six months doesn't make up for six

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Speaker 7: years of bad policy by my opponent, in certainly four

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Speaker 7: years of the Biden Harris administration.

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Speaker 1: I know, when your time in Congress, you we're chairman

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Speaker 1: of the House Intelligence Committee. I'm just wondering if national

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Speaker 1: security has been playing a large role, you know, I

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Speaker 1: know economy, immigration are probably one and two, right, economy,

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Speaker 1: immigration and all the pulling. But is national security and

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration's handling of whether it's Ukraine, Afghanistan pull out,

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Speaker 1: you know, Israel and Hamas? Is that something that outside

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the Muslim American contingent within Michigan,

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Speaker 1: but outside of that group state wide? Is national security

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Speaker 1: something that is a drag for the Democrats right now?

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Speaker 1: Or is there not much of a focus on it

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Speaker 1: beyond the implications of the border in national security?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not a big topic.

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously I spent a long time dealing with

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Speaker 7: all of those issues, including how we recontain Iran, it

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Speaker 7: just doesn't come up all that often. I mean, when

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Speaker 7: you can't put food on your table, when these ed

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Speaker 7: mandates are just absolutely killing our automobile industry, people are

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Speaker 7: thinking about, hey, where's my I'm going to lose my

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Speaker 7: job here.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if there is another job that

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Speaker 3: you had.

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Speaker 7: Those are the kinds of issues that people are just

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Speaker 7: really focused on now. The border at least allows us

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Speaker 7: to talk about the broader implications of national scurity threats,

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Speaker 7: just because of the fact that a porous wide open

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Speaker 7: southern border is dangerous for ISIS terrorist groups who have

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Speaker 7: been filtrated and are.

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Speaker 3: In the country.

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Speaker 7: Other groups of Russians, the Chinese males, others that we

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Speaker 7: know are up to no good in the country. We

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Speaker 7: have got some huge problems. We talk about it through

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Speaker 7: that lens. They see the world, they know it's messed up.

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Speaker 7: I think pretty much most people starting to realize that, hey,

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Speaker 7: we didn't have that problem wald Trump was president, and

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Speaker 7: you look at the things that this administration has done.

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Speaker 7: I mean, right away they went in and told the

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Speaker 7: Saudis you can't go after the Houthis. They took the

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Speaker 7: Houthis off the terrorist list. This is the Biden Harris administration.

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Speaker 7: They gave Iran the ability to sell oil on the market,

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Speaker 7: and you can just draw a bright red line right.

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Speaker 3: To October seventh. From all of.

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Speaker 7: Those decisions, funding of Hamas through Tehran, the funding of

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Speaker 7: Hesbala through Tehran, the funding of the Houthis through Tehran,

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Speaker 7: all of that cash, all of that training has resulted

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Speaker 7: in the chaos you see in the Middle East. I

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Speaker 7: think most people look up and go, yeah, that's the

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Speaker 7: Biden Harris team for sure.

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Speaker 1: Mike I got married in Birmingham, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: In Oakland County, I know it is oftentimes that's where

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Speaker 2: my wife went to high school. A big swing county.

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Speaker 2: A couple of part question here, how is early voting looking?

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Speaker 2: What should people know in Michigan about that too? If

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Speaker 2: you'd pick any county in Michigan to know the final

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Speaker 2: results for would Oakland County be the best bell weather

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Speaker 2: in your mind? Or where should people be looking in

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Speaker 2: Michigan to try to glean what might happen?

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Speaker 7: I think it's a combination of county. Saganaw, Macomb and

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Speaker 7: Oakland are good bets, and then Kent County right on

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Speaker 7: the heels of it.

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Speaker 3: So Kent County shifted a little bit blue on us

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Speaker 3: the last election. We think we've worked to get that back.

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Speaker 7: Oakland County has slid blue over the last decade, but

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Speaker 7: Macomb County, which use where's the Macomb or the Reagan

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Speaker 7: Democrats got its name, is now a pretty bright red county.

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Speaker 7: So we look at higher numbers in Macomb, decent numbers

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Speaker 7: in Oakland, try to win Saginaw by a slim margin

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Speaker 7: and keep control of Kent, and if we do those things,

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Speaker 7: we're going to be a member of the United States

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Speaker 7: Senate come August or excuse me, November seventh or sixth.

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Speaker 3: Where are we again?

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Speaker 2: So what about early voting? We were talking battleground people

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Speaker 2: listening to us in Michigan right now, What are the

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Speaker 2: rules on early voting there? Would you encourage people to

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Speaker 2: be out and about what are you seeing there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we encourage early voting.

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Speaker 7: Now, what I think a lot of the pundit's nationwide

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Speaker 7: are going to get wrong is they see early voting

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Speaker 7: tends to favor Democrats. So we see an early push

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Speaker 7: of Democrat early voting. That doesn't wouldn't surprise us a bit.

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Speaker 7: We see that in a place like Wayne County, which

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Speaker 7: is the Detroit and Detroit suburbs, and so that does

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Speaker 7: not surprise us. And we're looking at those numbers and

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Speaker 7: saying that's tracking even though the number is down from

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two, meaning less Democrats are coming out and

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Speaker 7: voting early voting. And then outstate, we look at those

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Speaker 7: early voting de bollots that have come back and it's

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Speaker 7: trending our way.

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Speaker 3: There's a little more Republicans.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 7: If that holds for this next two weeks, that's a

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Speaker 7: really good sign. For us because Republicans tend to vote late,

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Speaker 7: and so we're encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Them to vote early. We want them to vote.

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Speaker 7: Early so that we can focus so resources on finding

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Speaker 7: those Republicans who haven't voted. The last nine days of

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Speaker 7: in person voting, that's the time when the will ramp up. Hey,

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Speaker 7: picking up the phone calling people saying hey, you really

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Speaker 7: got to go vote, We need you, or knock on

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Speaker 7: their door and so, or text them to death and

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Speaker 7: so all of those things can go away if you

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Speaker 7: vote early.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of our promise to them.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Mike, I'm just wondering if there was any

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Speaker 1: blowback that you've picked up on the campaign trail talking

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Speaker 1: to folks or in the polls from Gretchen Whitmer, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the governor of the Great State of Michigan with the

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Speaker 1: very weird handing the like dorrito to the podcast, or

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Speaker 1: in what a lot of Catholics viewed as an affront

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Speaker 1: to communion. Are you seeing people that are recognizing that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats within your state are little cuckoo? How did

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Speaker 1: that go? How did that go over?

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Speaker 8: Not?

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Speaker 3: Well? So?

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Speaker 7: About twenty to twenty five son of our state identifies

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Speaker 7: as Catholic and so when you have Catholic bishops showing

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Speaker 7: up kind of on their own on a Sunday to

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Speaker 7: pray and protest on.

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Speaker 3: About that, what I thought was a mockery of Christian

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Speaker 3: and certainly the Holy.

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Speaker 7: Uh, you know, the community, the communion, the Holy Sacrament,

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Speaker 7: it has left the mark. And so you take the

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Speaker 7: ethnic communities that are here, Kelbeans who are Iraqi Catholics

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Speaker 7: who fled persecution in Iraq, when you look at Albanian

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Speaker 7: Catholics and Armenian Catholics here, this is a really big

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Speaker 7: part and staple of their family life, their community life.

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Speaker 7: This was a complete slap in their face. And I

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Speaker 7: think they're going to pay a price for this. And

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Speaker 7: the mockery was when she apologized. She basically said, well,

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry you don't understand my humor. That was her

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Speaker 7: apology that you all are just too stupid to understand

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Speaker 7: that it's okay for me to to, you know, to

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Speaker 7: make fun of the Holy Sacrament. It is really quite

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Speaker 7: a tragedy just about how anti Christian the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 3: Of today is.

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Speaker 7: And I think again people know what they see it.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was in a part of the state yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Not overwhelmingly known to be a.

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Speaker 7: Republican, but people were coming up to me and just

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Speaker 7: one after the other, like, Hey, I'm not really a Republican,

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Speaker 7: but I'm voting Democrat this year. I think there's going

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Speaker 7: to be a punishment vote from what you saw the

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Speaker 7: governor do.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Last question for you, and certainly we encourage everybody to

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Speaker 2: get out and vote for Mike Rogers in the state

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Speaker 2: of Michigan helped to take back what had been a

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Speaker 2: Democrat Senate seat. How much variation do you think there

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Speaker 2: will be between the Trump vote and your vote, in

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Speaker 2: other words, how many split ticket voters are out there?

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Speaker 2: Certainly your opponent is trying to appeal to a Trump

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Speaker 2: voter who might be willing to split ticket there. What

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Speaker 2: does your polling suggest in terms of your connection to

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump on the Republican ticket.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we track this pretty carefully. There are

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Speaker 7: Trump not sure about Rogers voters, and then there are

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Speaker 7: Harris definitely won't vote for Slotkin voters. And so that

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Speaker 7: second group tends to be more of an independent group,

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Speaker 7: and we've been talking to them for months. We think

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Speaker 7: we are going to do very very well with that crowd,

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Speaker 7: our Trump voters. That gap has closed. In the most

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Speaker 7: recent poll, we have closed that gap, and actually we're

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Speaker 7: half a point ahead, meaning we've kind of closed the

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Speaker 7: Trump gap. People know that President Trump needs a Senate

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Speaker 7: that actually will be willing to get his nominees through

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Speaker 7: and work on his agenda, and so that part seems

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Speaker 7: to have closed for us.

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Speaker 3: I think this is going to be the biggest put.

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Speaker 7: Your jersey on and go vote election than we've seen

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Speaker 7: in the state of Michigan probably in thirty years. People have,

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Speaker 7: you know, made up their mind they're not going to

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Speaker 7: go down and do three Republicans two Democrats. And by

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Speaker 7: the way, that happened before. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 7: that's how I got elected the first time by people

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Speaker 7: crossing over. They voted for Al Gore, for President Mike

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Speaker 7: Rodgers by the time they got down to the congressional seat,

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Speaker 7: and so that you know, big ticket splitting. I just

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Speaker 7: don't think we're going to see that much ticket splitting

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Speaker 7: this go round. They're going to vote their economy, they're

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Speaker 7: going to vote the border, they're going to vote ev mandates,

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Speaker 7: and then they're going to go home and hope for

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Speaker 7: the best.

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Speaker 2: If people want to vote for you, what's the website?

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Speaker 2: How can they donate? What should they know?

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Speaker 1: Coming down the home stretch for people out there in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the stakes of this election are high,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think that choices could be any clearer.

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Speaker 7: You're either going to have more job creation here in

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Speaker 7: Michigan or a lot less under the Democrats. You're going

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Speaker 7: to have lower gas prices and grocery prices under the

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Speaker 7: Republicans or higher prices under the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: You're either going to.

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Speaker 7: Get an end to this crazy ev mandate where the

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Speaker 7: government tells you what kind of car to drive, or

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Speaker 7: you're going to get the car that you can go

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Speaker 7: out and buy and afford. And all of that border,

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Speaker 7: by the way, that is secure and not that wide

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Speaker 7: open border. That's the choices in this election. We need

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Speaker 7: your help. It's going to come down to twenty or

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Speaker 7: thirty thousand votes in Michigan. You can go to Rogers

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Speaker 7: rog e ersforsenate dot com. Love to have you there.

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Speaker 7: Any little bit helps. We've been outspent five to one.

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Speaker 7: We're tied going into the last two weeks, so every

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Speaker 7: dollar makes a difference. This would be the time to

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Speaker 7: get engaged. And if you're listening for Michigan, get engaged now.

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Speaker 7: We hit forty thousand doors last weekend. Unbelievable. We've never

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Speaker 7: done that before and we're just warming up.

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Speaker 2: Amen, get out vote for Mike Rogers. Certainly, Michigan is

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Speaker 1: There's I'm not trying to cast aspersions. I don't need

872
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate Frisbee community come after me, but there is

873
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: something of an association with the smoking of certain substances

874
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: and the playing of ultimate frisbee on college campuses. I

875
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: knew the frisbee guys a lot of hemp. They wore

876
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot of hemp. Also ponytails. I would say, if

877
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: you're a man with a ponytail, maybe also a man bun,

878
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: you are more likely to vote Kamala than a man

879
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: with a normal haircut. Does that makes sense?

880
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: Like if you have a ponytail, not a woman, If

881
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: you are a man with a ponytail, you are more

882
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: likely to vote Kamala than a man with like a

883
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: traditional haircut. Are ponytail guys are now going to be furious?

884
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: But I mean like ponytail guys are gonna come for

885
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: you right now. I'm just saying there's not that many

886
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: ponytail guys. If I see a guy with a ponytail,

887
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm not like, you know that guy is a huge

888
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Trump supporter.

889
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: I think it was more early nineties. I feel like

890
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: ponytails had a little bit more of a moment. You know,

891
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: people are going for it just like that. Then with

892
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: the grunge scene, the goateee became much more of a thing.

893
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Bearded men, yes, I remember the go tea, but bearded men,

894
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: not men with beards. Some might say that there could

895
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: be somebody on the ticket with one. I'm talking about

896
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: bearded men, I think we're more likely to vote Trump. Right,

897
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: Like if I just if you only told me, like, hey,

898
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: what is a male characteristic that you could point to

899
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: that would vote Trump? I would say a beard would

900
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: be a good guess for men, an actual facial beard,

901
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: not a woman.

902
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: Trump wins, he should grow a beard.

903
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: Be epic.

904
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: But that's why there's a there's a meme of Trump

905
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: with a BERTI. I think it would be incredible if

906
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Trump grew Yeah, let's take some of these cyclist callers here,

907
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: Steve and Santa Barbara, a lovely part of the country.

908
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: What's up Steve?

909
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, Hey, yeah, you called us? What am I

910
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: wrong on the cyclist front?

911
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 7: Partially wrong?

912
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 11: On first off, it's not neaprimus lycra and there's numerous

913
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 11: reasons to wear the crap. But I would say in

914
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 11: the old days, it's probably ten percent conservative cyclist, and

915
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 11: that might have creeps up to forty percent now I remember.

916
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: Well that's quite a big move, but you would if

917
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: you had to stake your life on it. And because

918
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people out there respond anytime

919
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: you talk about general groups by saying I am X

920
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: and I do why that doesn't mean the group is wrong. Right,

921
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: So like women are going to vote for Kamala according

922
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: to the data, and men are going to vote for Trump.

923
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that some men aren't voting Kamala or

924
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: some women aren't voting Trump. Your individual choice doesn't eliminate

925
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: the overall statistical reality. In other words, your anecdote doesn't

926
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: eliminate the rule. So would you agree with me that

927
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: bicyclist in general, as a cyclist yourself, would vote Kamala

928
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: over Trump.

929
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 11: I would partially agree with you. I think that Titus turning.

930
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 11: I think Democrats has screwed up so royally that even

931
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 11: a diehard Democrat has to look at what they've done

932
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 11: in saying people are idiot.

933
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: That's issue.

934
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 12: That's the way I see it.

935
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I have to agree with you that I would

936
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 11: say so. But it's turning. It's turning, And all right.

937
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, I hope more of your lycra clad brothers and

938
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: sisters in the cycling world will vote Trump in this cycle.

939
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: That would be fantastic. Lou and Sarasota another cyclist for Trump.

940
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Here a fellow Floridian, what's up.

941
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 10: Lou clay Buck to thank you for taking my call.

942
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 10: I appreciate it, Hey, or to see guys. Uh So, yes,

943
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 10: I'm start so, I'm I'm a likero wearing guy. I

944
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 10: also like Ar's shotguns football. Uh So. I will say

945
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 10: this since we moved here about two years ago, two

946
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 10: and a half years ago. Uh there's a fair amount

947
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 10: of contendency of people that do like Trump or ride bicycles.

948
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 10: But I also think it's geographical because when we lived

949
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 10: in Baltimore, it was very hard to find anybody that

950
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 10: was conservative in the group that we wrote with, which

951
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 10: were hundreds of people.

952
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: Right.

953
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna find that with any hobby.

954
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Right.

955
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: So we're trying to assess nationally what the what the

956
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: political breakdown of some of these hobbies would be. And

957
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm open, I think this is super

958
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: fascinating stuff. I'm open to somebody hitting me with a

959
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: and me being like, you know what, that's genius. I

960
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: think you're definitely right. Again, I went weightlifting, you tend

961
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: to vote for Trump and bicycling I would think you

962
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: tend to vote for Commlin. I'm trying not to pick

963
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: something that would overwhelmingly be one gender or another. Right, So,

964
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: there are certain things like that men do more than women,

965
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: and so I do need to get a sense of

966
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: your judgment here. What is worse to you people who

967
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: use leaf blowers before nine o'clock in the morning or

968
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: drivers who encroach on the cyclist lane.

969
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 10: I would say drivers, because leaf blower should be able

970
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 10: to get up at eight o'clock and.

971
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: More than do their work.

972
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, he's pro leaf blowing early morning.

973
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: We got a leaf blower who called in. Do we

974
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: have the leaf blower who left me a message? Because

975
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we got to talk back on a

976
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: leaf blower. For those of you out there, I'm trying

977
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: to make the world more civilized. Leaf blowing should only

978
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 2: exist from nine am in the morning to nine pm

979
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: at night. It gives you twelve hours. That's plenty of

980
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: time to blow leaves all over the place with your

981
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: with your heart's content. Here is one of our guys

982
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: from San Antonio.

983
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 9: Hey, Clay, this is Ben San Antonio. Escape for Ben,

984
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 9: and I gotta say, if I was servicing in your area,

985
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 9: I definitely start at seven, maybe even six thirty, just

986
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 9: control you. I think it would be hilarious anyway. I

987
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 9: supported everything else, but this gotta get done. I'm not

988
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 9: gonna be working at night vision goggles. Have a great day,

989
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 9: go Trump.

990
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: I did think that my night vision goggles suggestion was

991
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: creative one. That's a good one. I'm telling you.

992
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: I think the landscapers near me are intentionally starting their

993
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: leaf blowers now faster than they otherwise would. I think

994
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: they've got it out for me. And I didn't know

995
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: that I had angered such a large community. If we

996
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: got leaf blowing, flutist bike riders, I'm in trouble. If

997
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: there's somebody that overlaps with all three of those, then well.

998
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: So, while we're on the subject, kind of do people

999
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: mow their lawns too much? Like what's wrong with the

1000
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: grass getting a little bit longer? I feel like I

1001
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: live with a tyranny of lawnmore noise everywhere I go

1002
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: all the time outside of New York City, where no

1003
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: one has lawns. But I'm always hearing law being mode.

1004
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: He is Miami.

1005
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: It always is growing in Miami. You don't have an

1006
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: off season, right, you have to cut the grass all

1007
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: year round. We may have, we may have just solved

1008
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: this puzzle. Thank you for that, But yes, I mean

1009
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: freaking lawnmowers. I mean I think in Miami you would

1010
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: have to cut your grass basically all year round. I'm

1011
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: sure it grows a little bit slower in the winter,

1012
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: but you just have to move to a part of

1013
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: the country where you get like five months off VIPs

1014
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: lighting us up here, Darlene, you guys are way off

1015
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: base about cyclists. They wear lycra not neoprene. Okay, you

1016
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: know what isastic fabric is?

1017
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Break My synthetics are a little bit off. Look,

1018
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: it's the good news is that it still looks like

1019
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: a teletubby either way. Most cyclists in our area are fireman,

1020
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: police officers, and real men. They vote Republican. No one's

1021
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: No one said cycling is a you know, Lance Armstrong

1022
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: is a superstar. We're just trying to see if there

1023
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: is a political affiliation that goes along with some of

1024
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: these things. We didn't mention this. Probably the easiest one

1025
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: is or like the biggest disparity that you would see

1026
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: if you were to chart this out. I think if

1027
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: you're a hunter, there's an above a ninety percent chance

1028
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: you vote for very high. I think it's probably ninety

1029
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: ninety five percent chance if you are an active and

1030
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: avid hunter you vote for Donald Trump. I think if

1031
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: you go to the gun range, it's probably eighty percent

1032
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: seventy eighty percent you vote for Donald Trump. So it's

1033
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: also very high. Maybe it's as high as hunting. So

1034
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: we're trying to think of some of the other activities

1035
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: all I think would be very high on the Trump team.

1036
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: Our friend Nick Adams says, if you're a Taylor Swift fan,

1037
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: you tend to vote. I said, I thought it would

1038
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: be sixty five thirty five that Taylor Swift people would

1039
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: vote Kamala. I think that's probably true, although that's partly

1040
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: again a function of the fact that Taylor Swift's fan

1041
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: base is overwhelmingly female.

1042
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: I think that plays in there as well. So you

1043
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: don't think she necessarily skews left among females. It's just

1044
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: she has such a huge female audience, and they skew

1045
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: demo crat to begin That's kind of what I thought, like,

1046
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: I would guess there are a lot of you know,

1047
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 2: uh right, leading twenty twenty to twenty, you know, nine

1048
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: year old girls in the Nashville area who love Taylor Swift,

1049
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: but they don't love her politics necessarily.

1050
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: That would be my guest. I think that's true.

1051
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: I love this by and I would love to see

1052
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: the data if anybody's got data on hobbies as a

1053
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: function of political voting.

1054
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Uh, this you've seen fascinating to me. You've seen the

1055
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: the in terms of career or employment. The data is fascinating.

1056
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: And there are very few professions that skew heavily right wing.

1057
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: But there are and very few organizations, companies or you know,

1058
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: or entities, I should say. You know, what you see

1059
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: is that the things that still remain dominated by Again

1060
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: we all understand dominated doesn't mean there aren't other people

1061
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: that you know, have our Democrats that are in the

1062
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: mix too, but that are overwhelmingly Republican, the Marine Corps, police,

1063
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: fire in general, contractors, small business owners overall, I think

1064
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: it's like sixty forty or six you know, tend to

1065
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: be in this enemy. Yeah, you know, it's not like overwhelming.

1066
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: But when you get on the Democrats side of things

1067
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: like ninety five percent of psychiatrists or Democrats ninety nine

1068
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: percent of Google employees, or Democrats university as university professors

1069
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent of them or something like that, or Democrats,

1070
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean they have these total areas of professional dominance

1071
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: which is you know, unfortunate for the country. By the way,

1072
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: Unions overwhelmingly Democrat as well.

1073
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: Andrew, by the way, in Ashville, Andrew, first of all,

1074
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: before we get into your criticism, how are things in Ashville?

1075
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Is the waterback power house the situation for you?

1076
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 12: The water's back power is back in certain areas, but

1077
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 12: I mean overall, it's it's going all right. Can't complain, thankfully,

1078
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 12: my family, We've we pulled true.

1079
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: All right, you just cut your pony tail off.

1080
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: I said, if you had to go Beard Trump voter,

1081
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: ponytail mail Kamala voter, do you want to fire back

1082
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: on behalf of formerly ponytailed men.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean I can't. I can't say that all

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Speaker 12: ponytail men will vote for Trump. But I definitely voted

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Speaker 12: for Trump and will vote for Trump. I'm more along

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Speaker 12: the lines of a moderate independent. I go for the

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Speaker 12: policies and all that.

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Speaker 2: So, but if you had let's say that you were

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Speaker 2: the president of the ponytailed Men of Ashville Association, and

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Speaker 2: you had everybody show up so you guys could play

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Speaker 2: flutes and ride bikes together, don't you feel don't you

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Speaker 2: feel like the vast majority of the ponytailed men of

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Speaker 2: America when they took a break from playing flutes and

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Speaker 2: riding bikes, would be voting for Kamala.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, I can't. I can't say that, honestly,

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Speaker 12: I guess it. I guess it just fans, you know.

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Speaker 1: Uh, nobody puts nobody puts ponytail in a corner Clay.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're not, by the way, thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling in.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that things are getting good enough in Asheville

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Speaker 2: for him to be fired up about my take on ponytails.

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Speaker 2: Uh to uh to be calling I'm just saying, can

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Speaker 2: you think of something again, not that is identity laden

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Speaker 2: other than a ponytail where you would be like that

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Speaker 2: guy's voting for Kamala. I can't ponytail guy. I think

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Speaker 2: this is a minor thing, but I have come across this.

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Speaker 2: Uh maybe just because we work in media.

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Speaker 1: If you wear glasses as a fashion accessory, not because

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Speaker 1: you need them to see, like prescription glasses, you're voting Democrat,

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Speaker 1: like I've never Mark Cuban now looks like Rachel Maddow

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: like that. Not if you wear glasses. If you wear

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Speaker 1: glasses that you don't need for vision, purposes like to

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Speaker 1: help you see. I think there's a very high like you.

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Speaker 1: It's a fashion accessory point. You like the way they

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Speaker 1: look on you. I think you're a democrat. Like Mark

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Speaker 1: Cuban's new glasses. That's because he's gone full democrat.

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Speaker 2: I think Elon Musk said that he's now indistinguishable from

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Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow, which when you do put them side by side,

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Speaker 2: it is really funny how similar Mark Cuban and Rachel

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Speaker 2: Maddow look. I will say that, all right, pony, we'll

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Speaker 2: take some more of your calls, cut your ponytails off.

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Speaker 2: But I want to tell everybody out there to get

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Speaker 2: signed up right now for prize picks tomorrow. What's today,

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Speaker 2: Today's Tuesday, Thursday. I'm going to give you a pick

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Speaker 2: that is going to win. That is, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you a ten to one payout. You pick more

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Speaker 2: or less on players. You can play in Florida, you

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Speaker 2: can play in Texas, you can play in California, you

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Speaker 2: can play in Georgia. Thirty plus states you can play

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Speaker 2: and you get fifty dollars if you just go to

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Speaker 2: prizepicks dot com use my name Clay right now. Prize

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Speaker 2: picks dot com, my name Clay. Clay, get hooked up

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Speaker 2: right now and you will be well on your way

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Speaker 2: to being able to play along with us. Or maybe

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Speaker 2: you think I'm a moron. Maybe you got a ponytail

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Speaker 2: and you're on your bike right now and you just

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Speaker 2: want to flick the middle finger off in my direction

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Speaker 2: because I'm so wrong about you. You could take the

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Speaker 2: opposite side. Prize picks dot com, my name Clay. That's

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Speaker 2: pricepicks dot com, my name Clay. You get fifty bucks.

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Speaker 2: Do it today, learn laugh, and join us.

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Speaker 4: On the weekend on our Sunday Hang with Clay and

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Speaker 4: Fuck podcast.

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.