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Speaker 1: All right, so we've got wheeling and dealing in the

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Speaker 1: NFL already underway. One team in Olivar. You had mentioned

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Speaker 1: you believe that the end is near or then is over.

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Speaker 3: I did not say his run is over.

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Speaker 4: I just said that it was mentioned, and it made

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Speaker 4: a lot of sense, and why not?

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Speaker 2: Wait what?

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Speaker 4: I think SAI during the season, you thought it was

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Speaker 4: over for Matthew Stafford. No, no, no, no, Chiefs for the Chiefs. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the run is over. Yeah, yeah, the run is over. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you guys are right. Well Trent McDuffie, he got the

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Speaker 4: hell out of Dodge. I was looking at the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll lugerious sneed. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie gets traded from the Kansas City Chiefs. The

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Speaker 1: all pro cornerback goes to the Rams for a first

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Speaker 3: Like more believable today. Go ahead, Yes, I did say.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs that the window is most likely closing, could

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Speaker 2: Oh all right. I'm more like looking at the trade compensation.

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Speaker 5: Who you know, didn't necessarily know or haven't watched Trent

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Speaker 5: What's interesting is McDuffie gets a long term deal, and

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Speaker 2: Was this a point where he just wanted too much?

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Speaker 2: To sacrifice or give up. It's just it's surprising.

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Speaker 5: you really the value of it obviously isn't for a

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Speaker 2: So I just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I I took it from Pete is that it isn't

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Speaker 2: Is it is it?

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Speaker 4: Is there a conversation that maybe took place where you're

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Speaker 1: So the fact that they not only got the draft

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Speaker 4: Like and I'm not saying I'm not saying a fired

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Speaker 2: He was six and eight.

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Speaker 5: They were coming off a year that went fifteen and

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Speaker 2: But I just I look.

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Speaker 5: But they've had a winning record and they've been in

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Speaker 5: they're paying you more.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's part of it.

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Speaker 5: But how many companies do you know are super successful

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Speaker 5: And I mean, you know the rams are Stan Kronkey

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Speaker 2: We'll get to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my tax guy is the saying office.

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Speaker 3: probably not. It's tax guy in Callie.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing. He's probably had that for ten

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Speaker 1: But you know, gets the job done. He's good to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just I look at Kansas City and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: there'd be question marks about Hey, man, if it goes

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Speaker 3: A long hours time.

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Speaker 4: People have to want to go to Kansas City, right

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Speaker 4: I think about it.

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Speaker 3: It's just supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Me, Oh dog, don't say that Kansas City is a

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Speaker 4: I'm going to repeat. I'm going to double down on it. People,

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Speaker 4: Your people are going to have to want to go.

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Speaker 3: The Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: That's the bot and and for what is worth if

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Speaker 4: I'm choosing Sandy, Oh no.

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Speaker 2: Let's tell you've been to Kansas City not much?

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Speaker 3: And that's the point, exactly exactly, that's the point.

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Speaker 4: How many times have you been there? Outside of playing

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Speaker 3: How many times? You asked me how many times you've

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Speaker 5: I've been back there obviously for work because of Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Where you flying to Kansas City, drive to Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is is in general, like I think

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Speaker 3: Wait, Okayksboro, So.

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Speaker 2: How many times I've been how many times have I

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Zero? But what zero times are floating? What I do know?

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Speaker 3: What I do know is I don't have to sell

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Speaker 3: you on l A. What I do. You don't have

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Speaker 5: But I'm not going there, like like you can make

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Speaker 2: It's a good city.

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Speaker 3: Well it's my opinion. I'm gonna get my opinion.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't You wouldn't come to LA to hang out

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Speaker 3: No, damn, I'm not leaving my fan.

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Speaker 4: He tells me, don't don't talk about Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: But he telling you that's fine. Hey, all I would

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Speaker 5: And say it's the same thing, Like you can sit

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Speaker 5: how many times have how many times have I been

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Speaker 5: It's not a fair question.

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Speaker 3: You just asked me. You just asked me. I just

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that's not like the way you should look

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Speaker 2: How many times you've been there, but that's not how

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Speaker 3: You asked me how many times I've been there.

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Speaker 5: I didn't bring that because I think you've got an

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Speaker 2: You haven't been too much.

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Speaker 3: That's but that's your opinion. I'm giving my opinion.

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Speaker 4: We don't even have to We don't have to again,

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Speaker 4: we don't have to even go down that road.

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Speaker 3: Like you can have your opinion.

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Speaker 4: You get well, Actually it's your sensitivities that's led to this,

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Speaker 4: this exchange two days in a.

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Speaker 3: Row, two days in a row.

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Speaker 2: Sensitive.

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Speaker 4: I said, it will be a harder sell to go

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Speaker 3: That is my opinion. I think about play.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard sell to play Patrick, Well.

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Speaker 3: But that's your opinion. That's it.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking the team to go play in a in

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Speaker 4: a market like Kansas City will be a harder sale

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Speaker 4: for free agents to want to go to a place

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Speaker 4: like that over other markets to go play in.

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Speaker 3: That's my opinion. That's an opinion. That's all.

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Speaker 2: Educating.

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Speaker 4: Well, whatever it is you want to go, when you

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Speaker 4: could go there, you I mean, I have no problem respect,

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Speaker 4: but you know this, Patrick does sound like a tile.

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Speaker 3: Right now, just what to say? Relax?

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes you don't comprehend what I say. Clearly, there

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Speaker 4: you go. Well, all right, clearly you're.

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Speaker 3: Super smart, the only one actually.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask you this is a

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Speaker 3: Look in the mirror?

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Speaker 1: Is a is a selling point for the Chiefs? Not

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. That that to me would be like and

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Speaker 1: I get to play with Patrick Mahomes. That could sort

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Speaker 1: of cancel out. It could be you could probably say

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of things you can sell.

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Speaker 4: One I did say Andy Reid, didn't say Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: I said the market. I also and they are coming

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Speaker 1: All right, So can I make an NBA comp because

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Speaker 1: I also think about this.

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Speaker 3: It's a great stadium.

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Speaker 4: Hey, they're loud, it's a its home field.

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Speaker 2: Food.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, shopping, my boyble man, you need a jeweler.

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Speaker 2: I got a jeweler for you.

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Speaker 1: But people, So let me ask you this. The Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: they probably recognize, hey, man, there's probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: to go a long ass way in Oklahoma City or

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Speaker 4: You consider on the beating path market. But if you

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Speaker 1: And also like if you can get paid and say

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Speaker 1: to someplace else. I just think there's the usual suspects

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Speaker 4: It's not a conversation when it's those conversations of with

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Speaker 4: a contract possibly not being as high as you would like.

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Speaker 4: Is the team is that market? Is that somewhere where

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Speaker 4: you want to be. That's what made to me sustainable

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Speaker 4: And during the New England Patriots run is that free

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Speaker 4: agents wanted to go there, that guys wanted to stay.

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Speaker 4: They had to get kicked out, like get rid of

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Speaker 4: them a year before he's ready to go type stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, does that cachet still exist in Kansas City?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sitting there like, oh, what's the first team

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Speaker 4: I want to go to. If I'm looking at the

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Speaker 4: market to go play in a different market, I'm not

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Speaker 4: looking at Kansas City. It's not one of the first

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Speaker 4: names that's going to pop up as a place I

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Speaker 4: would want to go.

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Speaker 5: And I think two years ago, you'd never say this,

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Speaker 5: And I think you're all basis off of this past year.

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Speaker 4: That's correct that I would I would not say that

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Speaker 4: two years ago based off of the way Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: was playing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct.

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Speaker 4: But if I'm not basing it off of Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: or how well that team is doing, he is still.

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Speaker 2: There, thirty years old, he's still writing it off.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see the same team. I don't see

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Speaker 3: the same team.

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Speaker 2: I'm not betting against them.

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Speaker 3: So hey, you can.

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Speaker 2: Climb up that hill again by yourself and there you go.

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Speaker 2: Let him fire at you. But I'm not. I'm not

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Speaker 2: down on that hill. I think I think, I think

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Speaker 2: this is I think this team will rebuilding. I think

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Speaker 2: they've shown it too in the past.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at even the transition they

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Speaker 5: made from Alex Smith to Patrick Mahomes. Like, remember, Patrick

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Speaker 5: Mahomes wasn't a slam dunk first round pick for a

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Speaker 5: lot of people when they saw him come out of

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Speaker 5: Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: And the expectations weren't the same either. Keep that in mind.

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Speaker 4: The expectations are expectations for Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Are very different. Now you said different from Alex Smith.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so when Patrick Holmes took over, they moved on

484
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Speaker 5: from a guy who was a perennial pro bowler splash

485
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Speaker 5: took them to the playoffs. Yes, so the expectations when

486
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Speaker 5: they transition was, oh, this guy who we didn't feel

487
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Speaker 5: like one enough at Texas Tech. There are some questions

488
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Speaker 5: about his decision making and you know whether or not

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Speaker 5: he can step in and lead this team to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Those are the questions people have, those sorts of thoughts

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Speaker 5: and concerns about him. And then all he did was

492
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Speaker 5: win Super Bowls and take his team to the conference

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Speaker 5: championship game every single year with exception of this past season.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not like I said, they made the transition.

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Speaker 5: Then they made some transition after Tyreek Hill, after offensive

496
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Speaker 5: coordinators left.

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Speaker 2: And they've been able to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: So I'm still a buyer on this team, the city

499
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Speaker 5: or whatever, despite this past year.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that to me is how I see it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the Patrick Mahomes transition to him from

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, there was a lot of people who question

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Speaker 1: that because Alex Smith was really good for them.

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Speaker 2: There's people who questioned the traff pick. They're like, what

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Speaker 2: are they doing. They don't need Patrick ma Holmes. They've

506
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Speaker 2: got Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: And they ended up trading Alex Smith to Washington and

508
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Speaker 1: the thought was, man, you're a playoff team with this guy.

509
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Speaker 1: He's got something going with Andy Reid. They were awful

510
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Speaker 1: before Andy Reid and Alex Smith got there, and you're

511
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Speaker 1: going with this unproven commodity. And then Patrick Mahomes had

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Speaker 1: one game against San Diego I think it was in

513
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Speaker 1: the soccer stadium, and everyone's like, Okay, now we get it.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see that at all during the time with

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith.

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Speaker 3: But if they can recapture a semblance of.

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Speaker 4: The the success that they had during the run of

518
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Speaker 4: early Patrick Mahomes at this point, then great it's great.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not I'm not a bouy.

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Speaker 2: It early like two years ago. Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well I'm saying early like I feel like

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Speaker 4: where he's at now after you get a major injury

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Speaker 4: like that at this what year is he seven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thirty years old.

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Speaker 4: Seven as a starter? Seven Yeah, I mean i'd say

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Speaker 4: this is the second half of his season. Is he's

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Speaker 4: at the halftime of his career. So the expectation is

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Speaker 4: much higher on Patrick Mahomes today than the expectation of

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Speaker 4: what it was when Alex Smith was the starter of

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Speaker 4: this team. It's one thing to say make it to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. It's another thing to say make it to

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl and have expectations of winning the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And that's what the success is done for Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: It has raised the bar significantly from what it was

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Speaker 4: when Alex Smith was the quarterback of this team.

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Speaker 1: Correction, eight years is a starter nine years so far

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Speaker 1: in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got time. Man, Man, He's not a spring chicken.

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 4: And listen, quarterbacks can go much longer than other positions.

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Speaker 4: It's a position where I'm not going to say he's

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Speaker 4: getting old old, but he is older and it is

543
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Speaker 4: different time in different era for this team. I'm not

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Speaker 4: a buyer. I put it on the market. If it's me,

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Speaker 4: I'm putting it on the market. You want to call

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Speaker 4: that going on the hill by myself. I put Kansas

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Speaker 4: City and Patrick Mahomes on the market.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there goes our shot at doing a remote

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: Sorry they have Well, y'all can go. I'll just be

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Speaker 4: on myhill by myself. Yah, y'all go to Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure out a way. And why Levar's on that

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Speaker 1: So we lost a legend in the world of sports yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Great Lou Holtz, who's coach in a lot of

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Speaker 1: places South Carolina, Arkansas, but I think people most remember

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Speaker 1: him as the head coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish,

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Speaker 1: passed away at the age of eighty nine yesterday, total

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Speaker 1: led and national champion, Hall of Famer, fun broadcaster and

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Speaker 1: a red ass who wasn't afraid to go after Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day all the way till the end. So the Great

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Speaker 1: Lou Holtz passed away yesterday. Hell of a run man,

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Speaker 1: hell of a life that.

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Speaker 2: Guy lived, and he kept fighting even at the end.

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Speaker 5: You know, he had been in hospice care for a while,

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Speaker 5: but I guess you know, fortunately he was around loved

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Speaker 5: ones and friends and there are a number of people

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Speaker 5: who got to say goodbye. But you know, for anyone

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Speaker 5: who had the chance to meet Lou Holtz, I think

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Speaker 5: they saw what a special person he was. It was

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Speaker 5: more than just coaching a Notre Dame and winning a

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Speaker 5: national championship, bring Notre Dame their last national championship.

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Speaker 2: It was really just who he was.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of people probably don't know his full story.

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Speaker 5: But he grew up in East Liverpool, Ohio, and he

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Speaker 5: came from very humble beginnings.

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Speaker 2: And if you have ever seen him speak.

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Speaker 5: He does this and he does multiple ones while he

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Speaker 5: actually gives a lot of his motivational speeches.

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Speaker 2: And he learned that when he was a kid, he

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Speaker 2: would go door to door. That's how he used.

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Speaker 5: To make money because of where he grew up. And

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Speaker 5: he still would go back and support various foundations and

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Speaker 5: charities in that area. That's what his foundation went to support.

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Speaker 5: But he was always always there for his players, for

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Speaker 5: his staff.

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Speaker 2: People who wanted to get a bit of advice.

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Speaker 5: He made time and he really made his life after

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Speaker 5: coaching as much as it was about TV, entertainment, everything.

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Speaker 5: I think he did a great job on TV talking

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Speaker 5: about what was special about college football. He made it

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Speaker 5: a lot about just the things that matter in life.

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Speaker 5: So I'll miss them dearly. Obviously he went to go

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Speaker 5: see him back he was the head coach South Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Frankly also the only reason I went down on that visit.

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Speaker 5: I really didn't have much of a desire to go there,

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Speaker 5: but I took the visit because.

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Speaker 2: He was that, you know, legendary of a head coach.

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Speaker 5: And the times I got to spend with him before

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Speaker 5: he spoke at a charity event for example. You know,

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Speaker 5: at that point in time we'd even talk about football.

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Speaker 5: You know, he talked to me about being a dad,

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Speaker 5: you know, being a husband, being a dad, like the

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Speaker 5: bigger things in life, and and my belief in.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviors. So it was

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Speaker 2: a really really incredible moment.

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Speaker 5: When you spend someone a time with someone and they're

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Speaker 5: able to be that like vulnerable with you, it was

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Speaker 5: It was pretty neat, especially someone who like Lou Holts,

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Speaker 5: who's touched so many lives, so incredibly sad. But you know, again,

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Speaker 5: he's he left his impact on the college football world,

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Speaker 5: on the world in general.

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Speaker 3: Definite icon, definite icon.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's he's one of those names you think

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Speaker 4: our game. You know, he's he that that name helped

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Speaker 4: mold and shape you.

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Speaker 3: Know, how people how they moved forward.

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Speaker 4: You know, Saturdays were there were names Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno,

666
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Speaker 4: Lou Holtz, you know, Coach Robinson, like there there were

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Speaker 4: some really really great names, iconic names that helped mold

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Speaker 4: and shape what our game has represented. I did not

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00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: know Lou Holtz personally, but the most influenced that that

670
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Speaker 4: for me, that that came from watching him and being

671
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: a part of what he had going on was I

672
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: was a big Notre Dame fan growing up. You know,

673
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Speaker 4: that was one of the schools that I enjoyed watching

674
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Speaker 4: and and so you know, with those backfields that he had,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: I still remember, like when I picture him, I picture

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Speaker 1: him on Notre Dame sideline, I could still I could

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Speaker 1: still see that because it was on NBC every week,

679
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: every single week, and that was before for you know,

680
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: you had teams that had you know, superstations. You know,

681
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: the Braves have a fan base because they were on TBS.

682
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: The Cubs of a national fan base because they were

683
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: on WGN and a lot of people got it. And

684
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Notre Dame fans all over the

685
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: place because you got to see them on NBC every

686
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Speaker 1: single weekend. I just I remember him, I remember Lou Holts.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Jioe Paterno, Bobby Bowden. When I think of Miami,

688
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: I think Dennis Ericson. That's like first thing that comes

689
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: to mind, because you just those were the those were

690
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Speaker 1: the guys on the sideline. So Lou Holtz coached a

691
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: lot of places. Dude, he's a golden domer in my mind.

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Speaker 4: That's that's I feel like that's the most famed, you

693
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Speaker 4: know position. That's that's what Again, so many legendary moments

694
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: like I remember to Bus, I remember Ricky Waters and

695
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: Brooks in the backfield, Tony Rice is just there are

696
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: a lot of memory again. You remember Ellers, Yeah, his

697
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: calves are strong, bro strong calves. But yeah, man, that's

698
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, but ninety almost ninety eighty nine, I think, yeah,

699
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: that's he.

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Speaker 3: Had a life. I'll tell you, I'll be happy if

701
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: I made it to eighty nine. So yeah, and he's

702
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: seen a lot, I'm certain of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Great, rest easy and thoughts and prayers to the family,

705
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: but I'm sure they're super proud and super you know,

706
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 4: just just focused in on probably continuing what his legacy

707
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: has has represented. So yeah, shots out to him, though.

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Speaker 1: So, guys, I don't know if you're familiar with a

736
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: current beef no pun intended when it comes to this

737
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: story that's going on in the world of sports, No

738
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: pun intended between Steven A. Smith and the New Orleans Pelicans.

739
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: They've been going back and forth and it all stems

740
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: from the fact that Steven A. Smith on ESPN tried

741
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: to explain away sort of the issues that Zion Williamson

742
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: has had with his weight and his shape and his

743
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: health throughout the course of his NBA career, And it

744
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: sounded like.

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Speaker 9: This nothing was made up. The information that emanated out

746
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 9: about Zion Wibson. Yeah, it came from inside the organization.

747
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 9: It came from people even closer than that to Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it at.

749
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Speaker 10: That, people that called up and encouraged us to get

750
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 10: his ass because of some of the things that he

751
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 10: was doing. You got people that are alcoholics, you got

752
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 10: people that the drug addicts and stuff like that.

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00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 9: What was Zion's problem, food addict.

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 11: The joke was everybody in New Orleans that cooked. It

755
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 11: could be everybody from a restaurant, a chef to your grandmama.

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00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 11: All right, anybody that knew about Zion Wibson them they

757
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 11: were on a first name basis because that brother ate

758
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 11: a lot. Okay, you even have rumors and and and

759
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 11: literally I'm here thinking it was a joke, and somebody

760
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 11: told me to go on the air and point out

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00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 11: how he got.

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00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: Busted hiding food under his bed. This is the kind

763
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: of stuff that was happening.

764
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: So that's that from Stephen A.

765
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: Smith Body slam him.

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Speaker 1: The New Orleans Pelicans, uh, you know, responded on social media.

767
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: They posted, uh, sort of a montage of him missing shots,

768
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: failing at sports, falling down, you know, during various appearances.

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Speaker 1: They also said stick to solitaire. He went back at them,

770
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: called him a trash organization. So on a day, stick

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Speaker 1: the solitaire. Steven A. Smith, a big solitaire player, hit

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Speaker 1: down at the at the NBA Finals. Somebody spotted and

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: playing solitaire while he was, you know, watching them, you know,

774
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Speaker 1: during it during one of the games.

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Speaker 5: Is that like an older person's game or do younger

776
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: people play solitary too?

777
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: I feel like my mom always plays.

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: Like my dad played the physical version, Like yeah, that's

779
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: what mom wore those playing cards out. He played every

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Speaker 1: single night, every single.

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Speaker 3: Night for years.

782
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Speaker 1: Like you could see his like a dirty thumb mark

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: on the cards as he flipped him over, and he

784
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: probably cheated.

785
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.

786
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's fat shaming him. That's what I encouraged.

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Speaker 12: You heard what I said, Valance exactly. That's why I

788
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 12: want to know. I want to know what they should

789
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Speaker 12: do about it. I'm enraged. I'm enraged. You want to

790
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 12: talk about sensitivity now this is a topic that I'm

791
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 12: sensitive about.

792
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Speaker 3: Why yes, not his other stuff like that's just we

793
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: can bro you're close, I am, I am, you're not.

794
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: I am, you're not. And I and I don't.

795
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: Appreciate when people feel comfortable talking about our reflictions. I

796
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 4: do not feel like it is okay for what stephen

797
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: A said and what he did.

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Speaker 5: Can I ask this on a serious note, though, because

799
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Speaker 5: you're not even in close in the ballpark, all right,

800
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Speaker 5: do you feel like the food addiction thing is real?

801
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: I think the butt addiction is was real.

802
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: Now, maybe food was a a byproduct of it, but

803
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: I think he was in the girls, and I think

804
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: you could easily find yourself in a situation where your

805
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: body is breaking down and you're eating a lot of

806
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: food and you're doing things on your leisure time. He's

807
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: trying to get some asks. Yeah, that's that's that's what

808
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: I think it was. I think I think stephen A

809
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: totally missed on what it was like. But that's that's

810
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: just my opinion on it. I think he really liked

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: girls and a certain type of girl, like kind of

812
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: like industry standard, like like that girl type deal.

813
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: And look, you know this whole hiding food under his bed.

814
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, if he goes to a hotel and the

815
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: place closes up early and he's got to put a

816
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: corn beef under his mattress because he wants to make

817
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: sure he's got a snack later. What's wrong with that? Well,

818
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: let's be clear, that's his window movie. He's intermitten fasting.

819
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Speaker 4: Most bids don't have the ability to store underneath, so

820
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: he's already playing himself. Steven Abe playing himself sometimes. Man,

821
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Speaker 4: it's kind of god like I think he sometimes. I

822
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 4: think he says stuff just to hear himself talk.

823
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: But it works.

824
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: But you know, this is why I would say, you know,

825
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: that's why there's a why athletes have now taken it

826
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Speaker 1: upon themselves to share the message on their own, because

827
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: now it's gone like that's a really.

828
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Speaker 4: Personal Draymond Green took a shot a swipe at stephen

829
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Speaker 4: A after this, like people, Hey.

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Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be. That's a dude running for president

831
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. Yeah, yeah, come on, he just call

832
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 2: what it is. He's he's staying relevant out there.

833
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 5: You know, he's trying to keep his name and everyone's

834
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: in mind

835
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Speaker 3: That you know, he eats their own man, President Smith