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Speaker 1: of the show where I emotionally abused my audience. Is

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Speaker 1: that a good intro Stephie, it's the honest one. It's

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Speaker 1: And I love being technically honest. Like last episode, I

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Speaker 1: promised that I was not going to throw any more bagels,

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Speaker 1: this episode. I'm way less angry about that than I

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Speaker 1: was about that MOLDI bagel. Yeah, there's no mold. This

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Speaker 1: And we glarified this Anderson is a woman. How dare you?

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Speaker 1: Nothing to do with your topic, nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. That was a smart play, because if I

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Speaker 1: wasn't canceled before, I'm just just barreling towards cancelation. So

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Speaker 1: today we're going to talk about Jerry Fallwell Junior and

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Speaker 1: Liberty University. Now, this is going to run on a

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Speaker 1: different week than our other Fallwell episodes because we're talking

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Speaker 1: full well, I say we call it a day. That's

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Speaker 1: probably Then it happens really quick, very quickly, and yet

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Speaker 1: In our previous two episodes on Jerry Fallwell Senior, I

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Speaker 1: You also have to acknowledge that Jerry Fallwell was a

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Speaker 1: that's not good. But you might argue it's better than

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Speaker 1: So that's nice. Cool cool. Jerry Junior's brother, Jonathan took

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Speaker 1: His two sons, Jerry Junior and Jonathan, had each inherited

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Speaker 1: Jerry Fallwell is that's how blessings work. You just pile

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Speaker 1: online was funding the school. While they were trying to

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Speaker 1: just break even on the residential side, it was understood

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Speaker 1: that on the online side they were making a killing. Boy, cool,

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Speaker 1: sounds like a real school to me. In his interview

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Speaker 1: with The New York Times, Folwell Junior admitted that the

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Speaker 1: faculty had complained initially about the growing importance of online classes.

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Speaker 1: He told them the big victory was finding a way

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Speaker 1: to tame the faculty. We really started making money when

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Speaker 1: we fucking faculty. Yeah, what are they fucking tigers? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? Yeah? Yeah, you got to tame the faculty,

436
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Speaker 1: otherwise they're going to complain about the fact that you

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Speaker 1: aren't delivering an education to your students. Those pesky faculty.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Folwell Junior's decision to an ors Donald Trump in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen election was deeply controversial, both for

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Speaker 1: the students and the teachers. According to Will's rite up,

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Speaker 1: the school's methods became even more aggressive after Fallwell endorsed

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump early that year. According to multiple current and

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Speaker 1: formal faculty members, the closer you get to the president's office,

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Speaker 1: says a former history professor, Brian Melton, discussing a chilling

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Speaker 1: effect at the school. The worst it becomes. Fallwell staff

446
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: now operates masterfully to squash challenges to his views and

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Speaker 1: his rise in national political influence. So that's good. That's

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Speaker 1: scary as all. Yeah. This March, Fallwell Jr. Attended the

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Speaker 1: signing of an executive order by President Trump on college

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Speaker 1: free speech. Big advocate of college free speech. The irony

451
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Speaker 1: is truly too much. Yeah. The guy who brought the

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Speaker 1: school's paper under his direct personal control is invited by

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Speaker 1: President Trump to uh watch the signing of a bill

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Speaker 1: that I'm sure will protect free speech. Yeah. In a

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Speaker 1: PBS news our appearance, after he claimed that his college

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Speaker 1: was inclusive of all ideas, unlike all those evil liberal universities.

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Speaker 1: As evidence for this, he pointed out that Liberty University

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Speaker 1: invited President Carter to deliver its two thousand eighteen commencement

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Speaker 1: address and had Bernie Sanders speaking two thousand fifteen and

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Speaker 1: a mandatory assembly. These things did happen, but Fallwell neglected

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Speaker 1: to mention some other things, like the fact that in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine, withdrew funding and recognition for the College

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Speaker 1: Democrats Club. Mark Kind, the s VP of student Affairs,

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Speaker 1: said this was because the Democratic Party defends abortion and

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Speaker 1: supports the LGBT agenda. Wow, so that's good after the

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Speaker 1: bloody two thously reminiscent of his dad. Yeah, the the

467
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Speaker 1: apple did not fall far from the tree. That is

468
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Speaker 1: also a poop and not apples, And the apples are

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Speaker 1: also pooped. Yes, the apples were also poop. After the

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Speaker 1: deadly two thousand seventeen Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville,

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Speaker 1: you know this is going to go good. Like that,

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Speaker 1: the Liberties Student Government Association attempted to issue a statement

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Speaker 1: of solidarity with Heather Higher, the murdered anti fascist activist.

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Speaker 1: In response to this, the s g AS president refused

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Speaker 1: to release the statement because it would have meant ending

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Speaker 1: it to Jerry Fallwell Junior one, and they really didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was going to be on board with sympathizing

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Speaker 1: with a woman murdered by a Nazi. Oh god, Well,

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00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: they're probably not wrong about that. That's why I said,

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Speaker 1: oh god. When Fallwell Senior died. The idea was that

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Fallwell would act as the moral compass for Liberty

482
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: University while his brother handled the finances. And Jonathan is

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Speaker 1: still the school's Vice chancellor for spiritual affairs. But the

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Speaker 1: evidence suggests that he has been largely sidelined at the university.

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Speaker 1: One Liberty official told Brandon Ambrosino, writing for Politico, quote,

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Speaker 1: Jerry never removed Jonathan. He just kind of pushed him aside.

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Speaker 1: He bought all of the Thomas Road Baptist Church properties, Liberty,

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Speaker 1: Christian Acnomy, Jonathan's building at the airport, and a couple

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Speaker 1: of others. Jonathan complained, but never stood up to Jerry

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Speaker 1: because he knew Jerry controlled the purse strings. It seems

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Speaker 1: like a healthy family. Jonathan seems sad as hell. I

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00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: think Jonathan is kind of sad as hell. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to know what he does every day, cry right, yeah, yeah, yeah, family. Yeah,

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00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: it seems like a bummer of a family and fallwell.

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Junior has done some strange things with his control of

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Speaker 1: those purse strings. Thinks his father would not have approved of.

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Speaker 1: One of these things was the four point seven million

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Speaker 1: dollar purchase of a South Beach hostel in Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound um, I don't know, Christian and decent, no,

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Speaker 1: but it actually sounds like a pretty sweet hostele, very

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Speaker 1: gay friendly, uh. Situated directly above a liquor store with

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Speaker 1: a bar where you could bring your own alcohol. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. How could they have possibly allowed this? Well,

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00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a fun little story. Um. It listed

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Speaker 1: its rules as no soliciting, fundraising, politics, salesman or religion

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00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: was written inside the hostel That's Fun, owned by Jerry

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00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Fallwell Jr. It was built as a great place for

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Speaker 1: people around the world to come and get wasted in

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Speaker 1: pre party before hitting the Miami Strip. So this is

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00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: this is so confusing. Yeah, the Fallwells bought the hostel

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Speaker 1: but mysteriously gave me twenty five steak in its profits

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Speaker 1: to one John Carl low Granda. Now Mr Granda is

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00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: most often described as a pool boy and reporting on

514
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: this that you'll find he is a handsome, muscular young

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00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: man in his mid twenties. The nature of his relationship

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00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: to the Fallwells is unclear, but he seems to have

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Speaker 1: accompanied them on numerous trips. Some evidence suggests that he

518
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: was present with the follow us during the taking of

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00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: some racy photos of Jerry Folwell Jr's wife, Becky. So

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00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, what's the suggestion here. The suggestion is

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00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: that Jerry Folwell Jr. His wife, Becky and this pool

522
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: boy had a ongoing threesome thing happening, and then they

523
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: bought this guy a hostile and gave him a twenty

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00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: five percent stake in the profits and let him manage

525
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: it a gay friendly hostile. I was hoping that's what

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00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: you would That's kind of seems like what's happening. That

527
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: is delicious now, But hot pool boy is how he's described.

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00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: He's usually just described as a pool boy. But you

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00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: said he was hot. He's definitely hot. Oh yeah, no,

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00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you look at him up. He's he's scrumptious. I definitely

531
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: pictured the guy from Legally Blonde to what I'm talking about.

532
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the guys she's into. That's stupid looking.

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00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Look him up, John Carlo Granda. He's a good looking

534
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: guy doing it. Yeah, that's so freaky. I love it. Yeah,

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00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty fun. I didn't think Becky had

536
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Speaker 1: an inner. A lot of people know what Becky had

537
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: in her because these pictures have gone pretty racy. Yeah,

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: pretty racy. Now the fallwells deny that there are any

539
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: racy photos. Well, that's not quite what he says. Uh

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Speaker 1: In an interview with the Todd Sterns Radio show, Jerry

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00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Fallwill Jr. Said there are no compromising or embarrassing photos

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00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: of me. Mm hmm yeah. But Becky, But Becky. Yeah.

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00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Three photographs of Becky have been seen by the Miami Harold.

544
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: They are images of her in various states of undressed,

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00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: and it is not known who took the photos or

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00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: when they were taken. And the Herald has not given

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00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: the photographs and therefore has not been able to authenticate them,

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00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: uh independently. But too of the photos appeared to have

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00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: been taken at the Follwells farm in Virginia, and a

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00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: third at the Chica Lodge, where they were known to

551
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with Giancarlo Granda. Oh yeah, yeah,

552
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah in the freak all. Now when these photos

553
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: leaked out, I mean, who do you get to help

554
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: you if you need to, like recover some racy photos

555
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: of your wife? Larry Flint No, Michael Cohen, Oh my god. Yeah.

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00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: He was a longtime friend of the Folwell family and

557
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: they hired him to clean up the evidence of these uh,

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00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: these sexy photo sessions. Amazing yeah yeah yeah. From Politico.

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00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Longtime listener, first time caller, would love to clean this

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00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: up for you. No, he'd known them a while. Yeah.

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00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: Longtime Liberty officials close to Fallwell told me that the

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00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: university president has shown or texted his male confidence, including

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Speaker 1: at least one employee he worked for him at Liberty,

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00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: photos of his wife in provocative and sexual poses. At Liberty,

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00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: Fallwell is very, very vocal about his sex life, in

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Speaker 1: the words of one Liberty official, a characterization multiple current

567
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: and former university officials and employees interviewed for this story

568
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: support in a car write about a decade ago with

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Speaker 1: the senior university official who has since left Liberty. All

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: he wanted to talk about is how he would nail

571
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: his wife, how she couldn't handle his penis size, and

572
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: stuff of that sort. His former official recall, Fulwell did

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00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: not respond to questions about this incident more than simply

574
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: talking about it with employees about his wife in a

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00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: sexual manner. On at least one more occasion, Fallwell shared

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Speaker 1: a photo of his wife wearing what appeared to be

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: a fringe made costume. According to a long time Liberty

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00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: employee with firsthand knowledge of the image and the fallow

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00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: up that followed, this is amazing. This sounds like a

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: healthy working environment, right. I think it's the kind of

581
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: working environment that what Joaquin Phoenix provided, right, super safe.

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00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: You get a bit picture of Giancarlo grand To pulled up.

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00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean I looked at it. They don't wear are

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: the pictures of of him and Becky? Where do I

585
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: find that? I mean, Michael Cohen cleaned him up. I'm

586
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: just gonna say I can't find them. I just want to.

587
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I just want to look at that handsome pool boy.

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00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, laze there is okay, yeah, not bad. It

589
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: looks better in that picture were was wearing the purple shirt.

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: It seems like a fun Miami party now leaning a pool.

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00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god him great photo shop. So that French

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: made picture that Jerry Folwell Jr. Accidentally Sent to an

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00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: employee had been intended to be sent to Ben cross White,

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00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Becky's personal trainer, as a thank you for helping her

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00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: get in the better shape. Another possible thank you to

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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: Ben cross White was the sale of a sizeable fitness

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00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: center on the Liberty University campus to Ben for wildly

598
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: less than its market value. Liberty University insists that there

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: was nothing untowards her sketchy about this arrangement. So that's cool. Also,

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I love that he bragged about having a big dick,

601
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: which is exactly how you know he does not have

602
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: a big dick. Yeah, handle it. My wife can't take

603
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: my huge dick. It's like, that's okay. Will you sign

604
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: these payroll force? Yeah? They're like, can my son have

605
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: a scholarship? Once I finished telling you about how my

606
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: wife cannot take this monster hog, I'm hold on, hold

607
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: on my rail, my railing. My wife's story is not over.

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00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Where are you going? Don't you want to hear about

609
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: me fucking my wife? Who's also your boss? Becky, get

610
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: in here and hope you tell the story about nailing you.

611
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: So I'm fucking my wife, and I mean fucking my wife.

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00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: When the pool boy comes in and we buy him

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00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: a hostile on the Miami Strip, the only person that

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: could take my penis that's not my wife is Jean

615
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: show Carla at the pool. Have you met gen Carlo Geancarla?

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: Get over here. That's my impression of of Jerry Fowl Jr.

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00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: At work, Jerry follow Jr. During like a business like

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00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: a media staff meeting. Yeah, so we got to talk

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Speaker 1: about how our students are doing on the the how

620
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: our bar exam acceptance rate is going. But first let's

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00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: talk about my dick. Also, H bet you he would

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00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: bring in slides and you know, I don't know how

623
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: this got in here. You had a slide made of

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00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: your wife and a French meat outfit. I don't know

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: this got in here. This is crazy. Who's that muscular

626
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: guy in the pictures? That the same guy who owns

627
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: that hostel that our school bought. You know what's better

628
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: than a hostile secretly owned by a Christian extremist cult products.

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00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: We're back. We're back, and I think I'm gonna try

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00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: and throw this English muffin now before before we get

631
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: back into Jerry fall. All right, now, this muffin is

632
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: a little bit smaller than the bagel holders, so I

633
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna work. Yeah, I mean that was

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00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: honestly just you flinging it with your hands is basically

635
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: just be flinging it with like But I appreciated it,

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00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: thank you. I did not. I mostly appreciated that it

637
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't hit me or Sophie or Anderson is not in here.

638
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: She is, She's that bit shocking me. She's either here

639
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: or not here. And I never know which she never

640
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: reacts to throwing things. Sometimes I don't know she's here

641
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: in here. So it's like shro Schrodinger's Anderson, don't you.

642
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: We don't want to be talking about Shreddinger's cats around

643
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: the fall Walls because the skin and fig that catch

644
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: don't not be cool. If you like through the English

645
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: muffin and then it just hit you in the face,

646
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: that would be hilarious. Oh it's what I was hoping

647
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: and not that good at using my time. Next time

648
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: fingers crossed, I'm gonna practice. So yeah. The Fallwells family's

649
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: current sketchiness is kind implicated as it is infuriating, and

650
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: the recent rash reporting on the family seems to reveal

651
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: compelling proof that, whatever their public commitment to evangelical politics,

652
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: the family has left their godly roots well behind. On

653
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: July nineteen fourteen, Swedish DJ John Dahlback performed at a

654
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: Miami Beach nightclub named Wall, which is interesting because you

655
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: remember the Wall gang from earlier. Now. Photographs taken that

656
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: night show fallwell junior sons Cherry and Tray, both in

657
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: attendance with their wives Fucking Tray. Tray pictured drinking. Now,

658
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: considering that their father runs and they work for a

659
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: school that bands both co ed dancing and alcohol, those

660
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: pictures were considered deeply embarrassing the Fallwell clan. Liberty staffords

661
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: told the author of that political article that Fallwell Jr.

662
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Went to John Gauger, the head of I T, to

663
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: deal with the problem. Quote. Longtime Liberty officials described Gauja

664
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: as a sort of fixer for Fallwell, a man promoted

665
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: because he would do what Fallwell asked him without complaint.

666
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: But Gauja is more than just a university employee since

667
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: two thousand sub Since two thousand nine, Gaja is also

668
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: run Redfinch Llc, an online business he founded that specializes

669
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: in search engine marketing and does lucrative contract work for Liberty.

670
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Tax records show Liberty paid Red Pinch a hundred and

671
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: three thousand, nine and fifty dollars during two sixteen for

672
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: what sources described as a search engine recruitment for online

673
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: students to the university. Redfinches online work for the school

674
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: goes beyond typical s CEO marketing, and an email from

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00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: August two thirteen obtained for this article, Fallwell asked Gauja

676
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: to defend him. In the comments section of a local

677
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: news article that Folwell felt reflected to negatively on him.

678
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: Fallwell emailed Gaja the exact wording to post, I'm having

679
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: my Redfinch guys blow this right up right away. Gaja responded,

680
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how it goes. Now. That's all silly, right,

681
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: But here's where it gets really fucking infuriating, because if

682
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: you've heard of Redfinch at all outside of the context

683
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: of Liberty University, it's because Redfinch LLC is the company

684
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: that Michael Cohen hired to rig online polls in Donald

685
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Trump's favor in two thousand, fifteen and sixteen. Gaja wrote

686
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: a computer script to vote constantly for Trump in exchange

687
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: for fifty dollars cheap. It wasn't a big job. But

688
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: this means here's what's infuriating to me. Not this Not

689
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: that he could ask for more money for a job

690
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: like that. No, no, No, as a freeliancer, I'm in fury.

691
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: You just want a collective bargain to get him more money. No,

692
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: it's that the fifty dollars he got came from Follwell money.

693
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Follwell money comes from federal taxpayer money, So the taxpayers

694
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: paid for John Gazer to influence polls in Donald Trump's

695
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: favor uh into fifteen and sixteen. Yeah, that that's that's

696
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: really frustrating and multiple reports from multiple outlets, Fallwell's management

697
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: of Liberty University has been described as dictatorial and fundamentally abusive.

698
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: One senior university official told journalist from Politico, We're not

699
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: a school. We're a real estate hedge fund. We're not educating.

700
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: We're buying real estate every year and taking students money

701
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: to do it. Another stated it's a dictatorship. Nobody craps

702
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: at the university without Jerry's approval. In July of two

703
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, Fallwall told university executives that his son Trey,

704
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: would be starting a new company to manage properties at

705
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: the school, including the shopping center. This might represent what's

706
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: known as a breach of duty of loyalty to the nonprofit,

707
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: as it could be seen as Folwell Junior enriching his

708
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: son at the expense of giving the school's property a

709
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: qualified manager. But it's fine. It's just fine for this

710
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: to happen, which is cool. Folwell Junior has also put

711
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: his support for President Donald Trump above the health of

712
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: his students and his ethical responsibilities as the manager of

713
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: a nonprofit religious institution. In two thousand and seventeen, he

714
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: invited the President to deliver the school's commencement address. Now

715
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: this is fine and happens regularly with a number of schools,

716
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: but Jerry Fallwell Jr. Also had Liberty University starts selling

717
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: a line of Trump branded shirts hats commemorating the event.

718
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Becky Folwell wrote an email threat, I want to make

719
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: sure that we have a lot of options available to purchase.

720
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: It's great advertising for Liberty to be on products with

721
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: Trump's name. She added in a later message, I spoke

722
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: to Michael Cohen and he said to make sure any

723
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: shirts we buy are made in America. He loved the designs.

724
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: The school ended up printing shirts that looked almost exactly

725
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: like official Trump campaign merchandise, including the words making America

726
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: great again, one degree at a time. Yeah, it's possible

727
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: these shirts are a violation of the school's five oh

728
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: one C three status since they might be seen as

729
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: political advertising. But there's no inclination that Fallwell Junior gives

730
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: a shit about this or that anything will be done

731
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: about it. Who's going to prosecute him, Who's going to

732
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: prosecute him? Nobody cares when these guys break the rules. Nope.

733
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: From Politico, Fallwell has become known as a Trump loyalist

734
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: who is willing to put his in his school's reputation

735
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: on the line to defend the president from any critic

736
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: and Trump. Fallwell said in two thousand seventeen, evangelicals have

737
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: found their dream president. When asked by The Washington Post

738
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: late intils An eighteen if there were anything President Trump

739
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: could do that would endanger the support from you or

740
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: other evangelical leaders, Fautwell said no. And in May two

741
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: that's a nineteen tweet about their Muller investigation, fault Well

742
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: appropriated the language of reparations for descendants of slaves to

743
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: argue that Trump's terms should be lengthened. I now support reparations.

744
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Trump should have two years added to his first term.

745
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: Is pain back for the time stolen by this corrupt,

746
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: failed coup? Yeah? I just think it's neat that both

747
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: uh Jerry Folwell and Jerry Folwell Jr. Have appropriated the

748
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: language of in Folwell's case, abolitionists, and in Jerry Jr's case,

749
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: the reparations movement to support their own political bullshit. That's neat. Yeah,

750
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: and also um, kind of a hilarious, uh defeat of

751
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: their own ideology. Yeah, you know, yeah, to like be

752
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: borrowing by borrowing and being very kind, it's like with

753
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: quotation marks, I mean stealing. By stealing something from somebody

754
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: that you don't even respect, You're just giving credence to

755
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: the fact that they are valuable and have ideas and

756
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: and that value and merit, And all you do is

757
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: just steal it and appropriated to your own, uh and

758
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: and then you still maintain your superiority. It's just kind

759
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: of hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, it's unself aware. That is moral

760
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: hermit crabbing. Um, except for I like hermit crabs, and

761
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: I do not like the Fallwells. Jerry Folwell Jr. Is

762
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: considerably more positive in his words to the President than

763
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: he has been in emails writing about his own students. Earlier.

764
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: In September two, nineteen, Reuter's published an article based on

765
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: leaked emails from Fallwell to his faculty. The title Exclusive.

766
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Fallwell blasted liberty student as retarded, police chief as half

767
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: wit in emails. Yeah, Reuter's interviewed reviewed several dozen emails

768
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: which painted a pattern of intense disrespect for the people

769
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: who attend Liberty and work there. Here are some examples.

770
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Ronald Songs, the dean of the engineering school, was a

771
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: bag of hot air who couldn't spell the word profit.

772
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Fallwell wrote in two thousand eleven, Richards, he thinks that's

773
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: like a sick burn. I think he does. It's not,

774
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely not. Richard Hinckley, the campus police chief, was

775
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a half wit and easy to manipulate, and shouldn't be

776
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: allowed to speak publicly. Hinckley couldn't be reached for comment

777
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: on the count, probably of how half he's too much

778
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: of a half wit to talk to the press. Of

779
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Keys, then Liberties Associate athletics director Folwell wrote in

780
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, only get Kevin involved in something if

781
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: you want it to not work. Why would you hire

782
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: that guy? Like, why won't you let that guy have

783
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: a position at your school? If that's what you're saying

784
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: about it. Up until very recently, only an idiot would

785
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: hire Kevin only a fucking moral I am his employed,

786
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: I am his employer, and I regularly show him pictures

787
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: of my wife naked. Get in here, show him your ass.

788
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: You don't deserve to be here. Up until very recently,

789
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: Folwell Jr. Has been allowed to get away with this

790
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: behavior due to the sheer terror everyone else at Liberty

791
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: seems to hold for him. One current university employee told Politico,

792
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: everybody is scared for their life. Everybody walks around in fear. Uh.

793
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: This place to learn a cool place to learn. This

794
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: employee only agreed to speak to Politico after buying a

795
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: burner phone because they were afraid that Fallwell Junior is

796
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: monitoring their communications. Fuck. Yeah, Yeah, it's a real dictatorship

797
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: over there. Sounds pretty great. I love that he's an

798
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: advocate for free speech at schools. Now, the good news

799
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: is that all this bad behavior has finally percolated out

800
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: into the wider world. An activist Christian group, Faithful America,

801
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: has launched a petition to force the Virginia Attorney General

802
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: and the I r S to open criminal investigations into

803
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Folwell Jr. They have received over fifteen thousand signatures

804
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: so far. Earlier this month, The Washington Examiner, a very

805
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: right wing news website, published an editorial simply titled Jerry

806
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: Folwell Junior needs to go. And on September, after several

807
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: of these damning articles dropped, two hundred Liberty students protested

808
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: on campus. At least sixty of them demanded an investigation

809
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: into the school's president and his administration. So that's good.

810
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Maybe something will happen, they've but so much time has passed. Yeah,

811
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: he made billions of dollars stealing taxpayer funds and giving

812
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: people worthless degrees uh, in exchange for money it should

813
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: have gone to infrastructure. Yeah, it's like doubly terrible because

814
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: you both waste all those tax dollars and then all

815
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: of these kids wind up in horrible debt for no benefit.

816
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool, and they don't get educated, and they

817
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: don't get educated, and then the money goes to rigging

818
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: polls online in favor of Donald Trump. Yeah, this is

819
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: and buying that hostile a lose lose situation. Except for

820
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Jean Carlos. Jean Carlo didn't crushing it. Can I assume

821
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: some like European backpackers had a great like great stay

822
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: summer break in Miami. Yeah, yeah, they're also winning so well.

823
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Thanks Sophia, how you feeling? I mean a lot better

824
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: than after you invited me to talk about dead babies ours.

825
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure I feel positive like leaving. It's

826
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: just a weird feeling. Normally I leave here and I

827
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: want to curl up until a ball and die. Well,

828
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: I will find another dead baby story to tell you.

829
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: I am not afraid of that being untrue. Yeah, it's

830
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: is going to happen. I just got to find another

831
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: real good baby murderer. Like, that's part of the trouble,

832
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: is Yeah, that that is part of the trouble. It's

833
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: just hard to find a good baby killer these days. Hey,

834
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: that's not a challenge. Listeners, don't be like, you know what,

835
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll give Robbert something to talk about. If you know

836
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: someone who killed a lot of babies, reach out to

837
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: us on Twitter. What he just loves Cansylvania. He loves

838
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: it there. It's you know what it is is it's

839
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: the mild falls. Well, there's no such thing. It's all

840
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: only one temperature and Cansylvania and it's just unbearably hot.

841
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: Who's he? Who's your new roommate? Yeah it's you mana

842
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: for he didn't even get canceled. I mean, he just

843
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: got imprisoned. Then how is he in Cansylvania with you? Well,

844
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I I guess I would say he didn't get canceled

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Speaker 1: because he actually faced consequences and the people in Cansylvania

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Speaker 1: really don't. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, m hmm.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that little observation moved you up

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Speaker 1: to a higher level of Cansylvania. Now I'm I'm bunking

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Speaker 1: with We already did a Louis c k joke. I

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Speaker 1: can't think of anyone else who's been canceled. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a there's a lesson in there somewhere. Well, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: Private Parts Unknown and Courtney Kosak it's a podcast about

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Speaker 1: love and sexual lality around the world, and Fance my

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Speaker 1: podcast about ninety with Miles Gray. And you can find

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Speaker 1: me in Cansylvania performing at the Comedy Cellar. I opened

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Speaker 1: from Michael Richards. I thought of another one. Thank you

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Speaker 1: if you buy T shirts at T Public, I will

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Speaker 1: use them to purchase a hostel in Miami Beach. Uh

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Speaker 1: my pool boy. But I won't keep it a secret.

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Speaker 1: I will, I will will be proud of Jean Carlow.

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Speaker 1: I am. I am very proud. Giancarlo is the only

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Speaker 1: one in the story I actually am proud of. It's true.

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Speaker 1: He really knows how to ratchet up just being the

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Speaker 1: third guy in a threesome. It just seems a person

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Speaker 1: in the threesome into some actual real estate and to

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Speaker 1: owning a hot co, owning a hospital in Miami Beach.

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Speaker 1: That's a weird flex, but I'm I'm in it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like your choices are one of two things.

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Speaker 1: Either Liberty University taxpayer dollars go to fund like fraudulent

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Speaker 1: polls that support Donald Trump's candidacy, or they go to Giancarlo.

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Speaker 1: And I know that I would rather Giancarlo. Gean Carlo

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Speaker 1: buy a mile, So buy some T shirts support Giancarlo.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the worst year ever, where we'll try to

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Speaker 1: get Gian Carlo On as a guest. Uh, actually really fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you know someone who's had a threesome with the Fallwelves,

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Speaker 1: tell them to hit us up. Episodes done,