WEBVTT - Way Too Early Tuesday: Texans Division Projections + E.J. Speed

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. As we bring

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<v Speaker 1>you inside the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermer, John

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<v Speaker 1>Harris with you, and we talk Texans every night, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, but Texans mostly NFL mostly. Sometimes some other

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<v Speaker 1>things come into the fray, like college football because we

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<v Speaker 1>also host a bowl here, the Texas Bowl every year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kinders Texas Bowl, and other things going out at

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<v Speaker 1>NRG Stadium and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny, how's it going tonight? Going? Well? It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I jumped on with Reggie and John this morning or

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<v Speaker 3>this afternoon and the first question they asked me was

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<v Speaker 3>about tight ends. And it's so interesting because this is

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<v Speaker 3>a position mark in this draft that is loaded. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have like I mean, the two guys top are

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<v Speaker 3>really good athletes, but it doesn't have a brock Bauers.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have a time to think who's going early,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like a Vernon Davis. Yeap, it doesn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Kenyan City has been compared to Vernon Davis.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, from that standpoint, I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a tough five. I've got a top ten guy,

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<v Speaker 3>but man, you can get a tight end, they're at

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<v Speaker 3>least at least two dozen tight ends I think get

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<v Speaker 3>drafted and it's a really good class. So I did

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<v Speaker 3>my breakdown updated rankings at her Football Taker for dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can check that out. But it was fun

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the tight ends and getting their thoughts on

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<v Speaker 3>it today on End the Loop.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was it. It was a whole segment on

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. Really, my gosh, well.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just tight It wasn't just tight ends. You

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<v Speaker 2>know how that goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they asked me about a few other things

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<v Speaker 3>and right, you know, kind of some of the It's

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<v Speaker 3>always funny because I I can figure out even if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not listening to the shows, I can figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what guys have been talking about because they'll text me like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so they want to get my thoughts and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can kind of see, yeah, see I was right.

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<v Speaker 2>John thinks this. I was right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get a lot of that, especially Reggie and John.

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<v Speaker 3>When they asked me a question, I can tell all right,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been debating this. I don't know which side they'll

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<v Speaker 3>be on, but they want to get my confirmation to

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<v Speaker 3>feel one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's always kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he asked me about Caleb Banks, who's the defensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackle out of Florida, who is an unbelievable player when

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<v Speaker 3>he's fully healthy and when he's dialed in, and this

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<v Speaker 3>year was not that year. He had been hurt all

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<v Speaker 3>year and he got hurt the combine and at the

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<v Speaker 3>Senior Bowl I saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of went up and down.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's the kind of guy that he looks like

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Carter, and I mean when you see him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, holy cow, like you're a real human being.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like not AI generated, Like you're a real human being,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you got to reach out and touch him to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're real. But if he's fully healthy, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>top five player, but he just hasn't been and so

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of puts him down. So they asked me

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<v Speaker 3>if I thought the Texas would take a look at

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<v Speaker 3>him at number twenty eight, and I said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think they'll take a look at him for sure. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I it was funny though I could tell that

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<v Speaker 3>they were they had been debating whether they would do

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<v Speaker 3>that or not for Caleb Banks at twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, This is like a pen or instapol, except you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are the posters or the police or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The top five most AI generated athletes in Texans history.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ai ish oh athletes in Texans history. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a few names. We'll rank him

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment here. But dan Neil Hunter's on this

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<v Speaker 1>list for sure, right, yeah, Yeah. I think Mario Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is on this list too.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny, Yep. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jadeveon Clowney's on this list. You're sensing a

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<v Speaker 1>theme here of the positions they play. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Johnson could be on this list too, There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt because when you're looking at two twenty five, two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, two sixty three can run a four to four,

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<v Speaker 1>that's sick. The hands, the speed, the turning ability, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that four guys?

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<v Speaker 1>And probably what especially what as he progressed in his career?

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody left out of that five?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? That's the five?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I was actually watching earlier today.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually looking at a couple of guys on

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan's defense and you can't help and I was watching

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<v Speaker 3>a high State Michigan game, and you can't help but

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<v Speaker 3>as you're watching it, go, oh good god. Number four

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<v Speaker 3>for Ohio State Jeremiah Smith. And you look at it

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<v Speaker 3>and go, that's Andre Johnson. Like, that's Andre Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Six three, two thirty moves the way that Andre did

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<v Speaker 3>from Miami, just does everything on a football field the

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<v Speaker 3>guy should be able to do. I mean, I see

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<v Speaker 3>all these different comparisons, all these different receivers. I'm like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's Andre Johnson. So it's interesting seeing Jeremiah Smith go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be another year because he's only a sophomore,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's gonna have another year in college football where

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<v Speaker 3>he can dominate. But I would say those guys, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, you know, from the standpoint of AI generated,

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<v Speaker 3>you also.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Will Fuller would have to go in

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<v Speaker 3>that category. He's the fast this football player I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bar none. He was the kind of guy that.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast football players couldn't catch that he ran away from.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fascinating to watch him hit a different gear

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<v Speaker 3>and then just pull away from really fast football guys

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<v Speaker 3>like that's that was otherworldly. I mean, it was I

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<v Speaker 3>remember the second second year, you know, twenty sixteen. He

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<v Speaker 3>went through kind of ups and downs as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>But I remember going to Seattle and he had that

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<v Speaker 3>first deep ball and he pulled away from every Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>defender and I just thought, this is different. Yep, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy's on a different level than everybody else. So from

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<v Speaker 3>a speed standpoint, I would absolutely put will Fuller in there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're talking characteristics as opposed to just the body,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right as far as speed, because as far

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<v Speaker 1>as it looks like a glitch in the matrix, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Madden Life situation. DeAndre Hopkins was also like that

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<v Speaker 1>in his ability to catch the football in almost impossible situations. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what the one against Pittsburgh on Christmas Day in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>What how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Or any sideline catch just pick one of dozens where nah,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get oh wait a minute, he did get

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<v Speaker 1>both feet down. How did that happen? And Nico comes

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<v Speaker 1>up with a lot of those as well. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a theme here. Great wide receivers without standing ability, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bar none. Basically you look at guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Hopkins comes to mind, where oh, he's double coverage covered,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna come down. Yes he did. He came

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<v Speaker 1>down with it. He came down with it anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>had that ability.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't see it. We wouldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never forget my first year on the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>We were two and zho.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to New York to take on the Giants

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<v Speaker 3>and we just couldn't do anything right that day. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember we were down seven to oh or ten

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<v Speaker 3>nothing in that game, and so Hop was out by

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<v Speaker 3>me and Fitz. He just hauls off and throws it

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<v Speaker 3>and just chucks it up there. It's, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things where eh, Hop's down there, he'll come

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<v Speaker 3>down with it. And Hop has actually run past the

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<v Speaker 3>ball and the balls behind him, and he reaches back

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<v Speaker 3>and catches it with one hand. And it was weeks

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<v Speaker 3>before Obj did it. Yep, it didn't count. It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>count because Hop had to be off the line because

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<v Speaker 3>we were six. We had a six offensive linemen on

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<v Speaker 3>the field, and so he thought he should be on

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<v Speaker 3>the line because he saw a tackle, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>was negated. But that catch in the one against Miami

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<v Speaker 3>on their sideline that he caught between his legs that

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<v Speaker 3>was also taken away from him because it was interference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, those are the two. Those were two I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 3>When they showed the replay on the video board at

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<v Speaker 3>Energy Stadium, I remember this like oo, like overcoming the crowd,

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh, it was really weird. It wasn't like a cheer.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like this uproar.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just kind of this when you see something cool,

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh, it was like that across the board

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like he caught that between his legs.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll never forget Troy Aikman and Joe Bucker calling

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<v Speaker 3>that game. And I remember Troy Aikman being incredulous on

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<v Speaker 3>TV afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>We were sitting there going, well, yeah, we seen him

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<v Speaker 2>do this before. Yep, he caught it. He's freaky. He

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<v Speaker 2>still is ridiculous. Well, if he gets into the Hall of.

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<v Speaker 1>Fame, and I know there's debate is he borderline, is

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<v Speaker 1>he in, is he at whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>But let's just say he gets in.

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<v Speaker 1>On his highlight reel, they've got to show the catch

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants, and they have to show the one

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<v Speaker 1>against Miami even though they didn't count, which is weird

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<v Speaker 1>that two of the greatest catches you've ever had, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest catches you've ever had, as far as degree

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<v Speaker 1>of difficulty, will not count.

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<v Speaker 2>They do not count.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not really in the history books. It's in the

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<v Speaker 1>official play by play. It's a penalty, Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy And I'm still bitter about Beckham's catch because that

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<v Speaker 1>was a sensational catch, but because his logo where Hopkins

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and had Hopkins been able to hang on

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<v Speaker 1>or had that been legal, had he been off the

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<v Speaker 1>line like he was supposed to be, well, we might

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<v Speaker 1>have had a different situation. As far as his career

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<v Speaker 1>goes and the way he's looked at now, he's looked

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<v Speaker 1>at as an all time great receiver, there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But Beckham still gets so much praise for that catch,

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<v Speaker 1>and he should get it for that catch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And he was great for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's playing in his flag football game on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom Brady and those guys. He's still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get another job. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I never looked at him as an all time great

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<v Speaker 1>because he couldn't stay on the field long enough to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be one, so maybe great Hop flash. Yeah, Hop has

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<v Speaker 2>been on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's been productive for a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 3>since he left Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it's funny with Hop.

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<v Speaker 3>He did things in games and hear this all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>well you should have seen the catches that guy made

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<v Speaker 3>in practice. Well, yeah, you should have seen the things

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<v Speaker 3>Hop did in practice. But then also in a game

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<v Speaker 3>against the best there ever was. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 3>that guy, and yeah, the things he.

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<v Speaker 2>Did in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there were times where we would sit there

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<v Speaker 3>during OTA's and he would just be screwing around. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember there was one there was one practice, I

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<v Speaker 3>know it was probably seventeen maybe, and he's just running

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<v Speaker 3>routes on the sidelines and he was going out of

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<v Speaker 3>bounds and the balls throwing behind him, and he caught

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<v Speaker 3>the back half of the ball, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a second, did he just do what I thought

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<v Speaker 3>he did? Just caught the back half of the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>never tucked it in, and then just flipped it to

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<v Speaker 3>a manager and went back in line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember thinking that's you know, like when I

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<v Speaker 3>think of Ai and I think of guys you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with great hands. That was him, like Fuller was speed,

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<v Speaker 3>Hop was hands. The guys you mentioned, those guys were

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<v Speaker 3>just built from a lab. It's like you went in

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<v Speaker 3>and you typed in six six two ninety uh Enter,

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<v Speaker 3>you got one, you know, Mario Williams. I mean when

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<v Speaker 3>you go back and you look at the combine numbers

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys, it's ridiculous. I mean JD was two

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five and ran up four to six.

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<v Speaker 2>Geez.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so wist john he was faster than Kamari

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<v Speaker 3>Lassner's forty times.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember him, and I've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>on field three doing one of those I'm coming back

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<v Speaker 1>from an injury workouts. Yeah, and he sprints the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the field and just him running by himself sprinting

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<v Speaker 1>was a sight. Was a sight because he's so huge,

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<v Speaker 1>he's blocking out the sun and he's flying, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, well, that's an athlete. That's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete right there. As far as the receivers go

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<v Speaker 1>real quick here, we know what Andre Johnson's greatest catches are.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this many times. He's a Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer Hopkins. We talked about degree of difficulty,

0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but catches that count or meant something. Now, the Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>game Christmas didn't really mean anything because it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a bad season and it was the brightest spot for

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans in a terrible game. Otherwise, on Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 1>against the Steelers. Boy, these Christmas Day games, Johnny the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens in twenty twenty four, the Steelers in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta stop doing this. Gotta play better on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Day at home. Anyway, that catch was incredible. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Monday Night Football twenty fifteen for Hop that was

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a catch. And maybe hopspins against the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys twenty eighteen Sunda Night Football to set up the

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<v Speaker 1>game winning field goal by fair Beard. I think those

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<v Speaker 1>two are the ones. Am I missing anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Definitely one of my favorite moments of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take this one with me forever because I just

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<v Speaker 3>happened to be in a great spot to see that

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<v Speaker 3>catch against the Bengals. It was right in front of me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just remember I can see Hop running and

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<v Speaker 3>he's going against pac Man Jones, and I see the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in the air, and I just yelled, go get it, Hop,

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the great things about that catch was

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<v Speaker 3>Hop was so good on the sidelines that he actually

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<v Speaker 3>had he just come down naturally. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 3>gets both feet in the air or in the in bounds,

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<v Speaker 3>but he clicked the first foot and he actually clicked

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<v Speaker 3>the second foot behind his first foot, and that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of slowed it down to where he could then tap

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<v Speaker 3>and he got the two feet in and I just

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<v Speaker 3>remember that was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I get to watch this up close and see

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<v Speaker 2>him do the things he did. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>But Hopspins popped up on my I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 3>I was on Instagram or Twitter and videos and whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and Hopspins popped up and what a play that was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that it kind of gets forgotten in a

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<v Speaker 3>sense because you know, Hop got traded and then quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that play at that time against that.

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<v Speaker 1>Team, Oh massive, incredible, massive, And last season that was

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<v Speaker 1>the zero to three coming back, nine game winning streak.

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<v Speaker 1>We referenced that a lot because they just had that

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<v Speaker 1>again in twenty twenty five. So that play, yes, massive

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<v Speaker 1>play primetime audience, one of the great Sunday night football

0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.280
<v Speaker 1>games we've ever seen the Texans play, and there have

0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.920
<v Speaker 1>been others. Patriots, that was a good Sunda night football game, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course the Chiefs this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite, I think because of everything it

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<v Speaker 1>meant at the time to knock them off at Arrowhead Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Johnny, it's way too early Tuesday, way too

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<v Speaker 1>early Tuesday, and we're gonna do way too early. Not

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<v Speaker 1>win predictions, but projections of some of these teams that

0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the Texans are facing or that they're rubbing shoulders with

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<v Speaker 1>of the AFC. And we'll go to NFC as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Texans are playing the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready for this one, Let's go, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So in the AFC South, let's just start home here

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<v Speaker 1>because this is what matters to people. Just to refresh

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's memory, the Jacksonville Jaguars won the division with a

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen to four record while the Texans were twelve and

0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.800
<v Speaker 1>five Indianapolis. It was so satisfying watching them go eight

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<v Speaker 1>and nine this campaign, and the Titans won three games,

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<v Speaker 1>so likelihood. Let me just give you this. Never mind

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to win the division, just look at the Jags.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to zero in on the Jags without

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Texans just for a moment here. Thirteen wins, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or no Jaguars in twenty twenty, so there'll be less

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<v Speaker 1>than thirteen wins.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that Jacksonville is gonna end up being

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a more difficult team to beat this year than

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<v Speaker 3>maybe before. But they've got a deal with Yes, they'll

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<v Speaker 3>get Travis Hunter back and that that will help them

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<v Speaker 3>if he's healthy, and they've talked about, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna use him going forward, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's smart.

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<v Speaker 3>But Mark, they've lost I think some really key pieces

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<v Speaker 3>in Jacksonville. No more Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd's now with

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<v Speaker 3>the Panthers. Yep, they they lost Travis a Chan. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>make sure we say that right.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait a minute, that's how we have to say

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<v Speaker 1>ETN now ah chan just like the dolphin running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, it's the exact same and written completely differently,

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<v Speaker 1>spelled completely differently than a chan. So yeah, formerly it

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<v Speaker 1>was at and then it went to ETN and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's chack right god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all because he didn't want to He didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to chase. So it's eight Chan now, but we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to worry about it because he's with the Saints,

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<v Speaker 3>so we won't even face him this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, but I I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think the Jacksonville offensive line was great last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that A Chan did a good job

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<v Speaker 3>with them running behind them. I think the trade for

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<v Speaker 3>Jacoby Myers was brilliant, brilliant. I mean, they needed somebody

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<v Speaker 3>that could catch the ball. But what is Brian Thomas junior?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he the number one? Parker Washington stepped up, But

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<v Speaker 3>I still I think they're gonna have a hard time

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<v Speaker 3>replacing Devin Lloyd's production. I think Vitro Miller's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good player, but he's not Devin Lloyd. And I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like in the secondary they'll get Travis Hunter. Act. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, I still think they've got some holes

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<v Speaker 3>back there, and they don't have a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think they're in the second year of

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<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen. They're gonna take some strides. But if they

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<v Speaker 3>if they get a guy hurt on defense, if they

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<v Speaker 3>get one of their key guys hurt, be it Josh Haines,

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<v Speaker 3>Allen or foy Alukan. I think they could really really

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<v Speaker 3>struggle defensively. I feel like the depth isn't quite there

0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.359
<v Speaker 3>for them, and I think that's where they could have

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<v Speaker 3>an issue. But we're all playing the AFC North, We're

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<v Speaker 3>all playing the NFC East. So that being said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna be really tough out for both

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<v Speaker 3>those divisions. So I think they're gonna, like the Texans,

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<v Speaker 3>pick up some ground against those two divisions. But they

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<v Speaker 3>got to play a first place schedule, yep, so that

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<v Speaker 3>means they got to take on the Patriots. That means

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<v Speaker 3>they got to take on the Broncos. We got to

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.080
<v Speaker 3>take a play schedule. We get the Chargers we beat

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<v Speaker 3>last year. It does mean we get the Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 3>when we get the Bills at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think there's any advantage here in being

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<v Speaker 1>the second place team as far as schedule goes AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you mentioned it Chargers and Bills, Nikes a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not I mean third place. Now we're talking it's

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins and well Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good because they're going to be better than

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<v Speaker 1>six and eleven, you would think, all right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>did the Jacks will the Colts. I just see them

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<v Speaker 1>as an eight and nineteen again kind of maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>even who knows if Jones is not healthy? And wait,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the player who said he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back on an achilles?

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a running back. I'm sorry, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>this top of my brain, but I was surprised. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>not Jones but another player. But yeah, Jones gets back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Jones be as good as he was early in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. The schedule's going to be tougher, I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you don't know what Riley l can do?

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<v Speaker 1>You think maybe something? I'm not sure if they're better

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<v Speaker 1>than eight wins your thoughts. I think they are a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated mess. If I'm being honest, I feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>have an identity offensively, and that is Jonathan Taylor is

0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna carry us.

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<v Speaker 3>But for how long? I mean, we're going to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six. This is the seventh season in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it starts to show on a running back.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought he was excellent last year. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you this, though in Week eighteen he did not look

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<v Speaker 3>the same. Now it's week eighteen, I understand it. He

0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 3>did not look the same. But they kept out Pierced. Okay,

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 3>good for them. They kept and they've got Josh down,

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 3>so I think it's fantastic. They brought in Nick Westbrook,

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<v Speaker 3>a keen eight wide receiver. He's always given us issue,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know he's the number three clearly. I just

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.920
<v Speaker 3>don't get scared of that offense. Mark, really, I really don't.

0:19:54.000 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I think they defensively, I mean, they don't scare me

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.119
<v Speaker 3>at all. They lost Nick Cross. I didn't even think

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.199
<v Speaker 3>he was a great player, but you look at the

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 3>depth chart at safety. If they were to play a

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 3>game today, they would start former safety slash linebacker Hunter

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Woler from Wisconsin at safety. I mean, Okay, they went

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.640
<v Speaker 3>out got Sauce Gardner, but he doesn't scare me either.

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 3>I've said that numerous times. And I think up front,

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.120
<v Speaker 3>they're another year older. Forrest Buckner was banged up last year,

0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Grover stew was banged up last year. They very rarely

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<v Speaker 3>played a bunch of games together. So I and they

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<v Speaker 3>can't draft, and they won't draft in the first round

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 3>because that's they got from Sauce Gardner. So the way

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<v Speaker 3>you would improve your roster, well you're gonna do it

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.360
<v Speaker 3>through the draft where they're gonna have to do it

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<v Speaker 3>from day two and day three. And I don't know

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.439
<v Speaker 3>that that significantly improves that roster because now they got

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 3>all this money tied up in Alec Pierce, they got

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<v Speaker 3>all this money tied up in Daniel Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>They went got arden Key, Okay, arn Keyes.

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.959
<v Speaker 3>He's a good rusher, He's okay. I don't get excited

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 3>about it. Lot two has not gotten to that level yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, it all hinges on when are they

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<v Speaker 3>getting Daniel Jones back? And if they could get him

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<v Speaker 3>back week they'll say he doesn't start week one, put

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 3>him up pup, he comes back week five. What's their

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 3>record going through what's the first four games? Now? Last year,

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 3>their first four games and their first eight games were cake.

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 3>They were easy. Other than the Broncos, they were easy,

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<v Speaker 3>and they got the Broncos at home. If they get

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<v Speaker 3>stuck with a tough schedule and they end up going

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<v Speaker 3>one in three before Jones comes back, now he's carrying

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pressure, and I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's a good thing for them, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being honest.

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.639
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the player I was thinking of was

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<v Speaker 1>Najie Harris. Who oh yeah, his agent posted a video

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of him running on a treadmill. Yes, and he looked

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty good running on a treadmill, so we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. But it was a week three injury for

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<v Speaker 1>him with the achilles, and Jones got hurt a lot later,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how Jones does.

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<v Speaker 2>Early on or later on or whatever. The case.

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Is not gonna go over the Titans right now, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>three wins last year. One hundred percent improvement would be

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<v Speaker 1>six wins. No one's gonna throw a parade over that.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it's a good start for rob Solid.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind about them, Let's go to the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>The Texans are playing that division. And what's interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>this is everybody finished below five hundred other than elite

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>organization Philadelphia Eagles. And I'm not saying that tongue in cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they are so, I think they're back. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they win the division. I think they're another double

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 1>digit win team. Now, maybe maybe they're slipping a little

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.159
<v Speaker 1>bit here because eleven wins is not exactly even up

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to their standard, which is nice to have that as

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a standard. But I don't see anybody really threatening. Maybe

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys do a bit better. Maybe Washington's back, although

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think it's gonna be really hard, Johnny,

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>for Washington to recapture the magic of twenty twenty four,

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:54.119
<v Speaker 1>because Kingsbury's gone a lot of changes. Nothing lasts forever

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>this league, as we know. And Jaden Daniels, he looked

0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.400
<v Speaker 1>okay when he was healthy, but he wasn't healthy good

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>flag football healthy wise, you know, he looked like he

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was spry, So we'll see what that means for them

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. Your thoughts on that division quick thumbnail.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious what John Harbaugh does with the Giants. I

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna have an impact early on, even if

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just to get the offense on track. Here's what

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 3>we are offensively, here's our identity offensively, Here's what we

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 3>do defensively. He's just got to let those dogs hunt.

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's got Abdua Carter, Cavon, Thibodau. Now, I

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 3>do think one of these guys might be moved, Thibodeau

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 3>being the one that pops to mind, but Abduall Carter,

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Brian Burns, Trevor Lawrence.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Dexter, Lawrence up front.

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 3>They've got defensive dudes, so they've got to let the

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 3>defense eat. And I do think the Giants would be

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a little bit better. Commanders have just been accumulating talent,

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 3>but I don't totally see it if I'm being honest. Uh.

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 3>And then there's the Cowboys, and the Cowboys can be

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>all over the map. I mean there are days I

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>look at the Cowboys and go, oh, yeah, talented team,

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 3>But what are they really I mean, if they go

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 3>and get Max Crosby, all right, maybe, but are they

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna do that? Apparently they offered very similar to what

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 3>the Ravens offered, but they offered a second instead of

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 3>a second first, so who knows at that point, But

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.479
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys did go out and get Rashaun Garry. I just

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 3>feel like the Cowboys are so reliant on Dak Prescott

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 3>being up right and healthy, and that if he is,

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 3>then the Cowboys are gonna play pretty well. If he's not,

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 3>then they're gonna be a mess. And last year, defensively

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>they were a big time mess. So I think that

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 3>changed a little bit. I think the personnel will get

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 3>a little bit better. They got two first round picks.

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I think they'll put those on the defense side of

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 3>the ball. But what happens with George Pickens? Yeah, they

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>don't bring back Pickens? Now, do they need some receiver

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 3>help with you know, go along with see Lamb. So

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, there are a lot of things, a lot

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 3>of question marks. I still think with the Cowboys, and

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 3>then you know, Schottenheimer is a coach. I thought he

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>did a decent job with them last year. I don't

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 3>know if I buy it, but I feel like with

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the Eagles again coaching staff. They reset the entire offensive

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 3>coaching staff, including Jeff Stotlin, offensive line coach, one of

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 3>the best of the league. It's not the deepse that's a league,

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 3>big one right there, big one, huge, obviously bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Than the coordinator until further notice.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely, so we'll see what Sean Manyon does is

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 3>the offensive coordinator. But I mean their top twenty two

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 3>guys eleven offense, eleven defense mark. I mean you put

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 3>that up against anybody. I mean it's top three in

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. But I think their debt becomes a.

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Big issue because they gotta pay money to a lot

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of these guys that just paid Jordan Davis probably gonna

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 3>have to pay Jalen Carter.

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 2>They may have to move AJ Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>All those are you know, gonna have an impact, and

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the right side of their line Lane Johnson, I'm sorry,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 3>right tackle A Johnson, left guard Land and Dickerson. Those

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>guys were questioning whether they were coming back this year.

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Would you move AJ Brown? Would you move them? Your

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 3>GM of the Eagles, you're Howie Roseman, you move them?

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously you want to get a good package,

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 3>of course, and let's say you do. I say it's

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen because it's not like you're using him a

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<v Speaker 3>ton anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that kind of team. You don't need that

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>shining star marquee busting number one. You know what, they'd

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>be better off, not maybe in the run game department,

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>but the way the Jags have it with Jakobe Myers

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and Brian Myers is back for the Jags, right and

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas Junior and Parker Washington. They need a crew

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>like that where there's no superstar, but they could all

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>do things and maybe Brian Thomas becomes a superstar. Heck,

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe Parker Washington becomes a superstar. I don't know, but

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they need a crew like that. Guys were good. You

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>don't need aj Brown who wants the ball all the time.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>And look, he's one of those guys who needs the

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>ball all the time. Feed him the rock, get him

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>his touches early so it's not a big problem late

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and he ends up seven eight, nine catches a game

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and you'll be happy. He'll be happy, Johnny. Texans are

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>not playing the NFC North, but they are playing the Packers.

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the hardest division to pick in this league

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is the NFC South, not playing anybody from there.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe in the Super Bowl, I can always dream.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But the Packers are a Texans opponent at lambeau Field

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and they went nine and seven. And you had four

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>teams in this division with winning records. All four had

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>winning records nine to eight, nine and eight. At the

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>bottom with the Vikings and Lions Packers nine to seven

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and one, Bears eleven and six, I think this is

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>a tough one to pick as well. And maybe the

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Vikings are automatically a last but I don't know. After

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>what happened last year, and it wasn't exactly a quarterback

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>stability with the Vikings. And we'll see how this goes

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>with Kyler Murray. But to me, the Bears with all

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>those dramatic wins, sometimes that's a shaky eleven win season,

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>shaky meaning a yet to pull it out of a

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>fire too often. I don't know who's gonna win this one.

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a real tough one to pick.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't say the Lions won't be back.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, And look, if Kyler Murray clicks with

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 3>KOC that could be kind of dangerous. But you know,

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 3>we'll play the Packers, and I think it's gonna matter

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 3>when we play the Packers because when is Michael Parson's

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna be available? Oh yeah, that I think is gonna

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 3>end up being a big factor because they lost for

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Seoungarry and now they might not have Michael Parsons when

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 3>the Texas play him. And after that, I don't look

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 3>at anybody on that defense and go, hey, yeah, these

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 3>guys scare me.

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 3>We did not play well against the Packers when we

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 3>played in a lambou two years ago. We didn't pick

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 3>up their blitzes. Jeff Haffley had us looking for guys

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 3>on the left side and they were all coming from

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 3>the other side. We just did not look good against them.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not Jeff Haffley anymore. So that's gonna be kind

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 3>of interesting because he ends up taking the Dolphins job.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be John the Gannett. Well, we faced a

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>game of defense before. But I think he's got more

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>talent than his other previous stops, including Philadelphia, where they

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 3>started to show some cracks in the armor when he

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 3>was their last. But I think it matters because Michael Parsons,

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>when you play them, is he available? If he's not,

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 3>the defense doesn't really scare me. Now offensively, Jordan Love,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 3>you know how it is that guy can go out

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>there and hit eight three pointers and go eight to

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 3>ten from three for thirty seven points, or he can

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>go one for twelve for seven points and you can

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 3>rock it. Well, he's just he's still not that consistent

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>guy that I know Packers.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I hear it from my parents.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Who live in forty five minutes north of Green Bay,

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and they're always complaining about Jordan Love, and I'm like,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>y'all stop complaining.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Man. Yep, he's a good quarterback.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>He does some great things, and I know that game

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 3>we went up there, he had some interceptions in that game,

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>but in crunch time he led them down to the

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>field goal that won it.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>So he's still gonna worry me. But I think the Packers.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I think the Texans are better on paper right now

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>than the Packers, But part of it is gonna be

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>when we end up playing them. And then again, it's

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 3>difficult to win a Lambo. It just always is. We've

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>talked about it's a tough place to get to. It's

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 3>hard to win the history and app building haven't done

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 3>it since two thousand and eight. I'm all for doing

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>it again at twenty twenty six.

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we didn't get to the AFC North, a division

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that had three losing teams and the Pittsburgh Steelers. How

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>about that for the AFC North. What a disappointing year

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for that division. But maybe we'll get to them tomorrow

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>or Thursday. How about this next up on way too

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>early Tuesday.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do it. I'm gonna put Johnny on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Top three position battles in OTAs and training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>I went there pre draft. Are you kidding? No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Texans Radio, all right, let's get right back to

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<v Speaker 1>I promise this, and this shows you that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>good football. This is one of the things that shows you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to OTA's mini camp, training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's everyone want to talk about when you go

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to these situations? You want to talk about position battles.

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the Texans have fewer than ever, fewer than ever,

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about ever, but fewer than they've had

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in a long time. If nothing else, position battles. Because

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I could name the entire starting defense right now, no problem,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>so can you? Right, maybe things changed, but let's be honest,

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>let's move to the We immediately moved to the offense

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>where there aren't too many spots. You know, you talked

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>about tight ends with Reggie and John today, but tight ends.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It's all about what matchups are you seeing, how do

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you open the game, as far as who starts and

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>everything like that, Who gets the reps, it's a game

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>plan situation. Schultz is going to lead the group in receptions, obviously,

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>might lead the team again as far as we know,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody else will mix it up.

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Tell me who's healthy.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Is Brevin Jordan arriving at the starting line healthy because

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>he'll factor in if he is stover, same thing, Foster Moreau.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>They signed him for a reason. Luke Lache, We'll see

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>how he battles in. But let's get right to it.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>On the line, you could name a starting offensive line today,

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>but will the real position battles be here in the

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>interior of the D line? Rookies possibly threatening veterans. It

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like that. Even maybe at the center position,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 3>You tell me, well, when you tease this out of

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 3>last segment, immediately I said center because that's been something

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.719
<v Speaker 3>that has been talked about by Nick and Dimiko, and

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I think Jake did some good things in twenty twenty five.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>But this is a really good center draft. It really

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a plentiful free agent center class, you had Tyler Linderbaum,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>who you know for a fact you weren't going to

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>go out and pay twenty seven million a year or two.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 3>And then you had cade May's, so you basically had

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 3>one center that was really kind of worth it from

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>that stand point.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Now we end up getting Evan Brown.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I think Evan's gonna be in that competition for center,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>but there's gonna be a definite competition at center, and

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I think there's gonna be a rookie that gets in

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 3>that mix.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 2>And let's not forget guy.

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 3>You and I've talked about Eli Cox, undrafted free agent

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty five out of Kentucky, multi year starter

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>at Kentucky, really good football player in the SEC. If

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Eli Cox gets an opportunity, I wouldn't be surprised if

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 3>he ran off with it because he's built a little

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>bit bigger than Jake but kind of like that thick stout, can.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Move very quick feet.

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised if Eli Cox got in this

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>competition at center. But with the centers in this draft,

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I would feel like they're gonna get one and throw

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>them into the competition. I feel like guard, uh, it's

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>it's definitely there. And look, if Evan Brown doesn't win

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>center competition, then he's definitely center guard, can play either.

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>He's the key interior guy that you can have to

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>play either one of those spots. I think what becomes

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>interesting and I'll use Sean and Seth as a comparison

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 3>point because you have gone out and got Evan Brown,

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 3>because you have brought in Wyatt Teller and re signed

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>at Ingram, where does that leave Jared Patterson? And then

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 3>that tackle because you've signed Braden Smith, where does that

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>leave Blake Fisher? Two guys that have been in the

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 3>roster for the last two three years. Where does that

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 3>leave those two guys, Jared Patterson and Blake Fisher. That

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>becomes a competition of a different kind, right, and that

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 3>is how do they fit on the roster?

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 2>So I think competition at center.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I think competition in where Jared Patterson and Blake Fisher

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 3>are gonna fit.

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I think from a tight end perspective.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, Dalton's gonna Dalton's gonna get a majority

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 3>of the reps. But can Luke Lasha get in this thing?

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Can he get into competition? Can he with a year

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>under his belt? Now, can he kind of flash and

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 3>get their attention. Where is Cad Stover in year three?

0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I said last year, I thought he's gonna break out,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 3>then he got and that kind of just miird him

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 3>in the muck. The rest of the way, Kate stays healthy.

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that tight end competition becomes really interesting and

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.959
<v Speaker 2>And you did it in vandermonk two dot zero.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it happens because I think he's

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna be long gone. But what if you drafted Kenyan

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Sadek in the first round. What if you drafted Eli

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Stowers from Vanderbilt at number thirty eight?

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this could definitely happen.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 3>You could absolutely question add those pieces at tight end

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>and now that becomes one hell of a competition for

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 3>probably three roster spots.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now it's gonna be tough. Yeah, that's that's interesting.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And this is an interesting exercise actually because it shows

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you that you're looking at depth.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Really, you're looking at depth.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>All around this roster on a twelve win football team,

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>tied for the all time high in victories in a season.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's how you're handling it. And you tell me

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>if I'm right about this. I predict in training can

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>never Mind OTA's Mini Camp Training Camp, They're going to

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>lighten the load just a little bit for Daniel Hunter

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and Will Anderson Junior.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Because it does two things for you.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It enables your offense to possibly get something done, and

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>it lightens their load a little bit.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 2>You still want to get them physically ready.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Demko's not going to want to slack off on the

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>physical ramping up, but you want to see what Dylan

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Horton can do at this stage of his career. You

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>want to get Dominique Robinson a lot of reps, and again,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to make it so the offense isn't being

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>destroyed on every rep. You want them to iron sharpens

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>iron their way into being better on the OD line.

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think they have to have some success at

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Will as well. I remember last year during camp the

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>times where they took Will and Daniel out, well, the

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>offense looked a little better. And lo and behold that

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>is the case because you are missing to all universe

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>players in Anderson and Hunters. So you tell me if

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm right or wrong about that about just lightening the

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>rep load a little bit for those two guys.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not in one hundred percent.

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 3>When you tease this going in, that was one of

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 3>the things that popped up to me. Who is the

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>third rusher? Who is that third rusher that could lock

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>in that spot behind Will and Daniel. I think Dylan

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Horton was underrated the last half of the year. In particular.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I think he did one heck of a job. Didn't

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>really get the notoriety, but he had a lot of pressures,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 3>he had a lot of TFLs. He set the edge

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>really really well. I trust him. I feel like the

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 3>staff trusts him. But he's going to the last year

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.959
<v Speaker 3>of his contract, so you know, maybe it's a contract deal.

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Derek Barney I think still has something left in his game,

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 3>but he's not on the roster right now. Maybe once

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 3>they go through the draft and they see what they

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 3>can do in the draft or what they find in

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 3>the draft, then maybe they called Derek back up and go, hey, man,

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 3>we really need you.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they need a.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Young piece to start to emerge on the edge, whether

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 3>that's a guy in this draft, whether that's Solomon Byrd

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 3>taking another step, and then I think he's come along

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 3>really well each and every year.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I know it to him.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 3>It probably is like, Dude, I want to play, I

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>want to get on a field. But I think they've

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>ramped him up each and every year such that he

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>can get on a field at some point and start

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 3>to show the progress that he has made as a player.

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 2>But Mark, this is a really good edge draft.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>And the more that I've thought about this, the more

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I feel like and what we're talking we just talked about,

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there might be a unique pass rush

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>piece that they can add to this defense. And I

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 3>say it like that because I know the Texans can't

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 3>draft Darvel Reese from out of Ohio state. But Arvel

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Reese is a guy who can play off the ball linebacker.

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 3>He can then rush on third down. Maybe that's the

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of guy that they can find in the draft

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.479
<v Speaker 3>that can do a little bit of everything, that can

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 3>be a different type rusher that can compliment willing Daneel

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 3>when they're on the field, but can also rush when

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>they're off the field. That would be kind of interesting

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 3>to me. Now, there are a few guys that kind

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 3>of fit that. Anthony Hill junior from Texas can do

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of that. You know, is that a

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>guy that twenty eight. You think about thirty eight, You

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 3>think about.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so could that be something they look at.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Maybe our Mason Thomas from out of Oklahoma is a true

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 3>pass rusher, but he's different from Will and Daniel in

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 3>that he's just got absolute bounce off the snap, like

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 3>he is so fast off the snap. When we've had

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 3>pass rushers in the past. We talked about this in

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 3>the first segment, what Mario jd All the great pass

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 3>rushers we had, Will and Daniel, we really haven't had

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 3>that Von Miller type. When I mentioned speed, he just

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 3>scares everybody with the speed off the edge. We haven't

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 3>really had that. We've had freakazoids on the outside that

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>can win with all these different kinds of moves, but

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 3>very rarely if we had a guy that could just

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 3>flat out turn the edge, turn a corner and put

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of pressure on a tackle because he's so fast.

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh that coming Mason Thomas might do it.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>That coming off the sideline, I got a break, Will

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and Toil there. Oh wait a minute, right, that coming

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>off the sideline would be cool?

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Also cool EJ speed. We'll hear some of that conversation

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>we had with him and also we'll go around the league.

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>It's coming up next here on Texans All Access. Final

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>segment of the night here on Texans Radio. Great to

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>have your board. And plenty of stuff going on around

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the NFL as always, and this is a very busy

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Houston sports week, as Johnny and I talked about yesterday,

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>with NCAA Regionals going on at Toyota Center this weekend.

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 1>The Koog's in the house for that. Talk to Tag

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Dell briefly in the hallway about that. He's all fired up.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Every Kug is fired up. Every Houstonian should be fired up.

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>This is cool stuff. And the Houston open at a

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>memorial My gosh, that's gonna be fun. Astro's opening day.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>But the NFL never sleeps, right, never sleeps. News coming

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>in all the time. A lot of talk about eighteen

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>games because this could happen now. CBS and the NFL

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>discussing increasing the CBS rights fee in exchange, So they're

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>going to tear up the current broadcast contract, maybe in

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>exchange for dropping the twenty twenty nine opt out clause.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And the NFL is definitely going to opt out of

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>every single deal to get more money, because why not

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the contracts are more valuable than ever, the rights to

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>league broadcasts more valuable than ever. You have a situation

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>where nbcpacock they are actually paying more to the NBA

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>right now, just briefly, and the NFL is definitely going

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to have that change.

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Why not.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>They're more valuable, But the NBA very valuable as well

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to broadcast partners because it's live sports, and nothing moves

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the needle like live sports. But the NFL crushes the needle.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>The NFL takes the needle and throws it away. The

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 1>NFL owns the needle. The NFL is that powerful. So

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to see this, you might see all the broadcast partners

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 1>redo their deals in the coming year.

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And we go to eighteen games, and that's gonna be interesting.

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Two preseason games, eighteen regular season games, and one of

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the games will be for an international outing. That means

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>every team will go international every year. You're gonna go

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>somewhere every year off American soil, and that is going

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to be super interesting to follow for the fans, media, everybody.

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I know it's complex for the players, but they'll work

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>out a way to do it and try to make

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it as comfortable as possible. There's a lot of money

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>in it for everybody, and I think it's cool to

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>promote the game on a global level and that would

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>be just in time for the Olympics. We'll see if

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it all comes together. We don't know, but we'll all

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>be watching together now. I wanted to revisit this with

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>e J. Speed, who reupt with the Houston Texans and

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.240
<v Speaker 1>he loves staying in his home state.

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I know he was a cult but he is a Texan.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Saying close to family, being a part of his own

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 4>special like that deepest we had last year, that was important.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 4>And uh, I think I said that the first day

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I came. Uh, playing for Demico Ryans was always like

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>a a goal or whatever like that for me. So uh,

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean two more years, two m years, the you

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 4>feel what I'm saying, to keep growing and keep making

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 4>it s, keep getting like the accomplishments, and keep growing

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and just you know, becoming a better meat for sure,

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 4>in a better football player.

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You wanted to be here last year, So how did

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>they measure up to your expectations before you got here?

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Clearly very well because you're back. But how was it

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 1>living out that first full years of texting.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh, actually it reached it. It far exceeded the expectations

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 4>that I had. How humble the locker room was. That

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 4>was a big thing for me, Like from the day

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 4>when the otag just seeing like the star, big contract players,

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 4>big name players, just being so humble and you know,

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.280
<v Speaker 4>just you know, at every workout and you know, working

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 4>hard and staying down and not being like a prima

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 4>dognash in a sense. So like just the camaraderie in

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the building and how the coaches and stuff was. It

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 4>was a real family oriented, uh organization, So it was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Your attitude strikes me as unique. I mean maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>with this team, but with a lot of teams because

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to do anything whatever it takes to win,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be playing linebacker, playing special teams at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level.

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<v Speaker 2>What goes into that for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, just always looking at the game as a serving

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<v Speaker 4>like I owe a game. I never think that the

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<v Speaker 4>game owe me, you know what I mean. The game

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<v Speaker 4>did so much for me, like growing up, giving me

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<v Speaker 4>a brother that I met when I was five through

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<v Speaker 4>the game of football and everything like that. He ended

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<v Speaker 4>up passing away my senior year. So I always feel

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<v Speaker 4>like the game of football gave me something more than

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<v Speaker 4>just the crowd and the accomplishments that you get out

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<v Speaker 4>of the game. It's a real family oriented thing. So,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, that goes back to being a locker

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<v Speaker 4>room full of humble guys. It just boosts my morale

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<v Speaker 4>towards the game even more.

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<v Speaker 2>What about being in Texas, EJ? How important is that

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Family is everything too else? Football and family like my

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<v Speaker 4>whole life. So being around my family, being in for

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<v Speaker 4>Worth and they can just drive down and see me play,

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<v Speaker 4>don't miss a game, a home game anyway, is it

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<v Speaker 4>means a lot to me. I got my nephew in

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<v Speaker 4>the city, my sister she lives in then, so it's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it means a lot to me to be around family.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned your teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are some of the guys that struck you right

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<v Speaker 1>away as team leaders or guys that you could really

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with, be with and set the example with.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole lineback of course, So the whole linemanker. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the first room I walk into. That linebacker was

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<v Speaker 4>so humble when Henry and disease, you know, and Jake

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<v Speaker 4>and Jamal and Christian and all those guys. They were

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<v Speaker 4>just like so humbling and they all played their role,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. It wasn't a guy that

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to overtrump, you know, even though it is

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<v Speaker 4>a competition every time you hit the field, no matter

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<v Speaker 4>the opposing team and the camp with your teammates and

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.320
<v Speaker 4>everything like that. But everybody accepted they role and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>was willing to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I fell right in.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, the team got so close to its goals last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know you came up short. What about the

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<v Speaker 1>hunger on this team to take it to the next level,

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<v Speaker 1>the next steps.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody want to strive. Uh, nobody satisfied. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>doubt not a second that we'll reach that goal, just

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, mishaps and stuff like that happened in

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<v Speaker 4>those playoff games that we can that we shouldn't, that

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<v Speaker 4>we could have did better basically, and you know this

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<v Speaker 4>next year you learn from those mistakes. And honestly, yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>rather good or bad, doesn't really matter. So it's always

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<v Speaker 4>about the next day. That whoever won a Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, it's remembered to send the

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<v Speaker 4>history books, but it's history, so you know, work starts

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll see who who gets that trophy at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of his season.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there's our conversation with Ejspeed and that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is part of a video that will be going up

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough? How's that for a release date promotion? And

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<v Speaker 1>You got to know when all these Texans shows are on.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, before you know it, we'll be back to

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<v Speaker 1>it training camp, preseason games.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, we have a few things to do before that,

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<v Speaker 1>including the NFL Annual Meeting next week aka the Owners Meet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be out there. Our shows will originate from

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<v Speaker 1>out there in Phoenix. It's gonna be fun. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it for tonight. Another show tomorrow at six Area

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<v Speaker 1>Go Texans.