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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. As we bring

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Speaker 1: you inside the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermer, John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you, and we talk Texans every night, among

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Speaker 1: other things, but Texans mostly NFL mostly. Sometimes some other

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Speaker 1: things come into the fray, like college football because we

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Speaker 1: also host a bowl here, the Texas Bowl every year,

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Speaker 1: the Kinders Texas Bowl, and other things going out at

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium and beyond.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, how's it going tonight? Going? Well? It was fun.

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Speaker 3: I jumped on with Reggie and John this morning or

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Speaker 3: this afternoon and the first question they asked me was

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Speaker 3: about tight ends. And it's so interesting because this is

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Speaker 3: a position mark in this draft that is loaded. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't have like I mean, the two guys top are

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Speaker 3: really good athletes, but it doesn't have a brock Bauers.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have a time to think who's going early,

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Speaker 3: you know, like a Vernon Davis. Yeap, it doesn't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess Kenyan City has been compared to Vernon Davis.

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Speaker 3: But yes, from that standpoint, I don't know if there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a tough five. I've got a top ten guy,

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Speaker 3: but man, you can get a tight end, they're at

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Speaker 3: least at least two dozen tight ends I think get

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Speaker 3: drafted and it's a really good class. So I did

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Speaker 3: my breakdown updated rankings at her Football Taker for dot com,

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Speaker 3: so you can check that out. But it was fun

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Speaker 3: talking about the tight ends and getting their thoughts on

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Speaker 3: it today on End the Loop.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: So that was it. It was a whole segment on

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Really, my gosh, well.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just tight It wasn't just tight ends. You

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Speaker 2: know how that goes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they asked me about a few other things

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Speaker 3: and right, you know, kind of some of the It's

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Speaker 3: always funny because I I can figure out even if

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Speaker 3: I'm not listening to the shows, I can figure out

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Speaker 3: what guys have been talking about because they'll text me like.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 3: It's so they want to get my thoughts and then

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Speaker 3: you can kind of see, yeah, see I was right.

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Speaker 2: John thinks this. I was right.

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Speaker 3: So I get a lot of that, especially Reggie and John.

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Speaker 3: When they asked me a question, I can tell all right,

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Speaker 3: they've been debating this. I don't know which side they'll

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Speaker 2: So it's always kind of fun.

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Speaker 3: Because he asked me about Caleb Banks, who's the defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle out of Florida, who is an unbelievable player when

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Speaker 3: he's fully healthy and when he's dialed in, and this

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Speaker 3: year was not that year. He had been hurt all

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Speaker 3: year and he got hurt the combine and at the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl I saw him.

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Speaker 2: He kind of went up and down.

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Speaker 3: But he's the kind of guy that he looks like

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter, and I mean when you see him.

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Speaker 2: You're like, holy cow, like you're a real human being.

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Speaker 3: You're like not AI generated, Like you're a real human being,

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Speaker 3: Like you got to reach out and touch him to me,

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Speaker 3: like you're real. But if he's fully healthy, he's a

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Speaker 3: that kind of puts him down. So they asked me

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Speaker 3: so I it was funny though I could tell that

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Speaker 3: they were they had been debating whether they would do

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Speaker 1: Okay, This is like a pen or instapol, except you

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Speaker 1: and I are the posters or the police or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The top five most AI generated athletes in Texans history.

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Speaker 1: All right, ai ish oh athletes in Texans history. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you a few names. We'll rank him

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Speaker 1: in a moment here. But dan Neil Hunter's on this

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Speaker 1: list for sure, right, yeah, Yeah. I think Mario Williams

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Speaker 1: is on this list too.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, Yep. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think Jadeveon Clowney's on this list. You're sensing a

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson could be on this list too, There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt because when you're looking at two twenty five, two

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Speaker 1: that's sick. The hands, the speed, the turning ability, all

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Speaker 2: What is that four guys?

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Speaker 1: And probably what especially what as he progressed in his career?

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Speaker 1: Is anybody left out of that five?

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Speaker 2: Well? That's the five?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I was actually watching earlier today.

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Speaker 3: Michigan's defense and you can't help and I was watching

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Speaker 3: as you're watching it, go, oh good god. Number four

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Speaker 3: Six three, two thirty moves the way that Andre did

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Speaker 3: he can dominate. But I would say those guys, I

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Speaker 2: Think of speed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Will Fuller would have to go in

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Speaker 3: that category. He's the fast this football player I've ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bar none. He was the kind of guy that.

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Speaker 3: Fast football players couldn't catch that he ran away from.

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Speaker 3: like that's that was otherworldly. I mean, it was I

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Now you're talking characteristics as opposed to just the body,

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Speaker 2: We didn't see it. We wouldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I will never forget my first year on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: We were two and zho.

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Speaker 3: was negated. But that catch in the one against Miami

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Speaker 3: And I'll never forget Troy Aikman and Joe Bucker calling

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Speaker 2: We were sitting there going, well, yeah, we seen him

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Speaker 1: On his highlight reel, they've got to show the catch

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Speaker 1: that two of the greatest catches you've ever had, maybe

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Speaker 1: Crazy And I'm still bitter about Beckham's catch because that

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Speaker 1: have had a different situation. As far as his career

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Speaker 1: But Beckham still gets so much praise for that catch,

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Speaker 1: and he should get it for that catch.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And he was great for a while.

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Speaker 1: But he's playing in his flag football game on Saturday

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and those guys. He's still out there.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to get another job. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I never looked at him as an all time great

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Speaker 1: because he couldn't stay on the field long enough to.

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Speaker 2: Be one, so maybe great Hop flash. Yeah, Hop has

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been productive for a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: And you know it's funny with Hop.

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Speaker 3: He did things in games and hear this all the time,

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Speaker 3: in practice. Well, yeah, you should have seen the things

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Speaker 3: Hop did in practice. But then also in a game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that play at that time against that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Johnny, it's way too early Tuesday, way too

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Speaker 2: You ready for this one, Let's go, all right?

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Speaker 1: So in the AFC South, let's just start home here

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Speaker 2: I think that's smart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all because he didn't want to He didn't want

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Speaker 1: That's not good because they're going to be better than

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Speaker 3: But to me, it all hinges on when are they

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Speaker 3: getting Daniel Jones back? And if they could get him

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Speaker 3: back week they'll say he doesn't start week one, put

439
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Speaker 3: him up pup, he comes back week five. What's their

440
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Speaker 3: record going through what's the first four games? Now? Last year,

441
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Speaker 3: their first four games and their first eight games were cake.

442
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Speaker 3: They were easy. Other than the Broncos, they were easy,

443
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Speaker 3: and they got the Broncos at home. If they get

444
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Speaker 3: stuck with a tough schedule and they end up going

445
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Speaker 3: one in three before Jones comes back, now he's carrying

446
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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, and I just.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's a good thing for them, if

448
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Speaker 2: I'm being honest.

449
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Speaker 1: By the way, the player I was thinking of was

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Speaker 1: Najie Harris. Who oh yeah, his agent posted a video

451
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Speaker 1: of him running on a treadmill. Yes, and he looked

452
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Speaker 1: pretty good running on a treadmill, so we'll see what

453
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Speaker 1: that means. But it was a week three injury for

454
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Speaker 1: him with the achilles, and Jones got hurt a lot later,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how Jones does.

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Speaker 2: Early on or later on or whatever. The case.

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Speaker 1: Is not gonna go over the Titans right now, because look,

458
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Speaker 1: three wins last year. One hundred percent improvement would be

459
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Speaker 1: six wins. No one's gonna throw a parade over that.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it's a good start for rob Solid.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Never mind about them, Let's go to the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: The Texans are playing that division. And what's interesting about

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Speaker 1: this is everybody finished below five hundred other than elite

465
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Speaker 1: organization Philadelphia Eagles. And I'm not saying that tongue in cheek.

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Speaker 1: I think they are so, I think they're back. I

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Speaker 1: think they win the division. I think they're another double

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Speaker 1: digit win team. Now, maybe maybe they're slipping a little

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Speaker 1: bit here because eleven wins is not exactly even up

470
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Speaker 1: to their standard, which is nice to have that as

471
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Speaker 1: a standard. But I don't see anybody really threatening. Maybe

472
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys do a bit better. Maybe Washington's back, although

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's gonna be really hard, Johnny,

474
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Speaker 1: for Washington to recapture the magic of twenty twenty four,

475
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Speaker 1: because Kingsbury's gone a lot of changes. Nothing lasts forever

476
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Speaker 1: this league, as we know. And Jaden Daniels, he looked

477
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Speaker 1: okay when he was healthy, but he wasn't healthy good

478
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Speaker 1: flag football healthy wise, you know, he looked like he

479
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Speaker 1: was spry, So we'll see what that means for them

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Speaker 1: moving forward. Your thoughts on that division quick thumbnail.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what John Harbaugh does with the Giants. I

482
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Speaker 3: think he's gonna have an impact early on, even if

483
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Speaker 3: it's just to get the offense on track. Here's what

484
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Speaker 3: we are offensively, here's our identity offensively, Here's what we

485
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Speaker 3: do defensively. He's just got to let those dogs hunt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got Abdua Carter, Cavon, Thibodau. Now, I

487
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Speaker 3: do think one of these guys might be moved, Thibodeau

488
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Speaker 3: being the one that pops to mind, but Abduall Carter,

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Speaker 3: Brian Burns, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Dexter, Lawrence up front.

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Speaker 3: They've got defensive dudes, so they've got to let the

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Speaker 3: defense eat. And I do think the Giants would be

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Speaker 3: a little bit better. Commanders have just been accumulating talent,

494
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Speaker 3: but I don't totally see it if I'm being honest. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then there's the Cowboys, and the Cowboys can be

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Speaker 3: all over the map. I mean there are days I

497
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Speaker 3: look at the Cowboys and go, oh, yeah, talented team,

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Speaker 3: But what are they really I mean, if they go

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Speaker 3: and get Max Crosby, all right, maybe, but are they

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Speaker 3: gonna do that? Apparently they offered very similar to what

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Speaker 3: the Ravens offered, but they offered a second instead of

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Speaker 3: a second first, so who knows at that point, But

503
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Speaker 3: Cowboys did go out and get Rashaun Garry. I just

504
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Speaker 3: feel like the Cowboys are so reliant on Dak Prescott

505
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Speaker 3: being up right and healthy, and that if he is,

506
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Speaker 3: then the Cowboys are gonna play pretty well. If he's not,

507
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Speaker 3: then they're gonna be a mess. And last year, defensively

508
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Speaker 3: they were a big time mess. So I think that

509
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Speaker 3: changed a little bit. I think the personnel will get

510
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Speaker 3: a little bit better. They got two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll put those on the defense side of

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Speaker 3: the ball. But what happens with George Pickens? Yeah, they

513
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Speaker 3: don't bring back Pickens? Now, do they need some receiver

514
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Speaker 3: help with you know, go along with see Lamb. So

515
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Speaker 3: you know, there are a lot of things, a lot

516
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Speaker 3: of question marks. I still think with the Cowboys, and

517
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Speaker 3: then you know, Schottenheimer is a coach. I thought he

518
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Speaker 3: did a decent job with them last year. I don't

519
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Speaker 3: know if I buy it, but I feel like with

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Speaker 3: the Eagles again coaching staff. They reset the entire offensive

521
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Speaker 3: coaching staff, including Jeff Stotlin, offensive line coach, one of

522
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Speaker 3: the best of the league. It's not the deepse that's a league,

523
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Speaker 3: big one right there, big one, huge, obviously bigger.

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Speaker 2: Than the coordinator until further notice.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, so we'll see what Sean Manyon does is

526
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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. But I mean their top twenty two

527
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Speaker 3: guys eleven offense, eleven defense mark. I mean you put

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Speaker 3: that up against anybody. I mean it's top three in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yep. But I think their debt becomes a.

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Speaker 3: Big issue because they gotta pay money to a lot

532
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Speaker 3: of these guys that just paid Jordan Davis probably gonna

533
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Speaker 3: have to pay Jalen Carter.

534
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Speaker 2: They may have to move AJ Brown.

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Speaker 3: All those are you know, gonna have an impact, and

536
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Speaker 3: the right side of their line Lane Johnson, I'm sorry,

537
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Speaker 3: right tackle A Johnson, left guard Land and Dickerson. Those

538
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: guys were questioning whether they were coming back this year.

539
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Speaker 3: Would you move AJ Brown? Would you move them? Your

540
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Speaker 3: GM of the Eagles, you're Howie Roseman, you move them?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you want to get a good package,

542
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Speaker 3: of course, and let's say you do. I say it's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen because it's not like you're using him a

544
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Speaker 3: ton anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's not that kind of team. You don't need that

546
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Speaker 1: shining star marquee busting number one. You know what, they'd

547
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Speaker 1: be better off, not maybe in the run game department,

548
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Speaker 1: but the way the Jags have it with Jakobe Myers

549
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Speaker 1: and Brian Myers is back for the Jags, right and

550
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior and Parker Washington. They need a crew

551
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Speaker 1: like that where there's no superstar, but they could all

552
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Speaker 1: do things and maybe Brian Thomas becomes a superstar. Heck,

553
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: maybe Parker Washington becomes a superstar. I don't know, but

554
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Speaker 1: they need a crew like that. Guys were good. You

555
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: don't need aj Brown who wants the ball all the time.

556
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Speaker 1: And look, he's one of those guys who needs the

557
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Speaker 1: ball all the time. Feed him the rock, get him

558
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Speaker 1: his touches early so it's not a big problem late

559
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Speaker 1: and he ends up seven eight, nine catches a game

560
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Speaker 1: and you'll be happy. He'll be happy, Johnny. Texans are

561
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Speaker 1: not playing the NFC North, but they are playing the Packers.

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest division to pick in this league

563
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: is the NFC South, not playing anybody from there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in the Super Bowl, I can always dream.

565
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Speaker 1: But the Packers are a Texans opponent at lambeau Field

566
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Speaker 1: and they went nine and seven. And you had four

567
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Speaker 1: teams in this division with winning records. All four had

568
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Speaker 1: winning records nine to eight, nine and eight. At the

569
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Speaker 1: bottom with the Vikings and Lions Packers nine to seven

570
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Speaker 1: and one, Bears eleven and six, I think this is

571
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Speaker 1: a tough one to pick as well. And maybe the

572
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Speaker 1: Vikings are automatically a last but I don't know. After

573
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Speaker 1: what happened last year, and it wasn't exactly a quarterback

574
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Speaker 1: stability with the Vikings. And we'll see how this goes

575
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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. But to me, the Bears with all

576
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: those dramatic wins, sometimes that's a shaky eleven win season,

577
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: shaky meaning a yet to pull it out of a

578
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: fire too often. I don't know who's gonna win this one.

579
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a real tough one to pick.

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Speaker 1: I can't say the Lions won't be back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, And look, if Kyler Murray clicks with

583
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: KOC that could be kind of dangerous. But you know,

584
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Speaker 3: we'll play the Packers, and I think it's gonna matter

585
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: when we play the Packers because when is Michael Parson's

586
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: gonna be available? Oh yeah, that I think is gonna

587
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: end up being a big factor because they lost for

588
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: Seoungarry and now they might not have Michael Parsons when

589
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: the Texas play him. And after that, I don't look

590
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: at anybody on that defense and go, hey, yeah, these

591
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: guys scare me.

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Speaker 2: Now.

593
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Speaker 3: We did not play well against the Packers when we

594
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: played in a lambou two years ago. We didn't pick

595
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Speaker 3: up their blitzes. Jeff Haffley had us looking for guys

596
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: on the left side and they were all coming from

597
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Speaker 3: the other side. We just did not look good against them.

598
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: It's not Jeff Haffley anymore. So that's gonna be kind

599
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: of interesting because he ends up taking the Dolphins job.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be John the Gannett. Well, we faced a

601
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: game of defense before. But I think he's got more

602
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: talent than his other previous stops, including Philadelphia, where they

603
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: started to show some cracks in the armor when he

604
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: was their last. But I think it matters because Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 3: when you play them, is he available? If he's not,

606
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: the defense doesn't really scare me. Now offensively, Jordan Love,

607
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: you know how it is that guy can go out

608
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: there and hit eight three pointers and go eight to

609
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Speaker 3: ten from three for thirty seven points, or he can

610
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: go one for twelve for seven points and you can

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Speaker 3: rock it. Well, he's just he's still not that consistent

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Speaker 3: guy that I know Packers.

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Speaker 2: I hear it from my parents.

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Speaker 3: Who live in forty five minutes north of Green Bay,

615
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: and they're always complaining about Jordan Love, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: y'all stop complaining.

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Speaker 2: Man. Yep, he's a good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He does some great things, and I know that game

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Speaker 3: we went up there, he had some interceptions in that game,

620
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Speaker 3: but in crunch time he led them down to the

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Speaker 3: field goal that won it.

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Speaker 2: So he's still gonna worry me. But I think the Packers.

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Speaker 3: I think the Texans are better on paper right now

624
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Speaker 3: than the Packers, But part of it is gonna be

625
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: when we end up playing them. And then again, it's

626
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: difficult to win a Lambo. It just always is. We've

627
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Speaker 3: talked about it's a tough place to get to. It's

628
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: hard to win the history and app building haven't done

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Speaker 3: it since two thousand and eight. I'm all for doing

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Speaker 3: it again at twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we didn't get to the AFC North, a division

632
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Speaker 1: that had three losing teams and the Pittsburgh Steelers. How

633
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: about that for the AFC North. What a disappointing year

634
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Speaker 1: for that division. But maybe we'll get to them tomorrow

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Speaker 1: or Thursday. How about this next up on way too

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Speaker 1: early Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it. I'm gonna put Johnny on the spot.

638
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Speaker 1: Top three position battles in OTAs and training camp.

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Speaker 2: I went there pre draft. Are you kidding? No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: And what's everyone want to talk about when you go

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Speaker 1: to these situations? You want to talk about position battles.

653
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Speaker 1: I think the Texans have fewer than ever, fewer than ever,

654
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Speaker 1: I don't know about ever, but fewer than they've had

655
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: in a long time. If nothing else, position battles. Because

656
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: I could name the entire starting defense right now, no problem,

657
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: so can you? Right, maybe things changed, but let's be honest,

658
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: let's move to the We immediately moved to the offense

659
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: where there aren't too many spots. You know, you talked

660
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: about tight ends with Reggie and John today, but tight ends.

661
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: It's all about what matchups are you seeing, how do

662
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: you open the game, as far as who starts and

663
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: everything like that, Who gets the reps, it's a game

664
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Speaker 1: plan situation. Schultz is going to lead the group in receptions, obviously,

665
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: might lead the team again as far as we know,

666
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: everybody else will mix it up.

667
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: Tell me who's healthy.

668
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Is Brevin Jordan arriving at the starting line healthy because

669
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Speaker 1: he'll factor in if he is stover, same thing, Foster Moreau.

670
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: They signed him for a reason. Luke Lache, We'll see

671
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: how he battles in. But let's get right to it.

672
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Speaker 1: On the line, you could name a starting offensive line today,

673
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: but will the real position battles be here in the

674
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Speaker 1: interior of the D line? Rookies possibly threatening veterans. It

675
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that. Even maybe at the center position,

676
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

677
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: You tell me, well, when you tease this out of

678
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: last segment, immediately I said center because that's been something

679
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 3: that has been talked about by Nick and Dimiko, and

680
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: I think Jake did some good things in twenty twenty five.

681
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: But this is a really good center draft. It really

682
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: wasn't a plentiful free agent center class, you had Tyler Linderbaum,

683
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Speaker 3: who you know for a fact you weren't going to

684
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: go out and pay twenty seven million a year or two.

685
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: And then you had cade May's, so you basically had

686
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: one center that was really kind of worth it from

687
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Speaker 3: that stand point.

688
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: Now we end up getting Evan Brown.

689
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Speaker 3: I think Evan's gonna be in that competition for center,

690
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: but there's gonna be a definite competition at center, and

691
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a rookie that gets in

692
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: that mix.

693
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: And let's not forget guy.

694
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: You and I've talked about Eli Cox, undrafted free agent

695
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five out of Kentucky, multi year starter

696
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: at Kentucky, really good football player in the SEC. If

697
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: Eli Cox gets an opportunity, I wouldn't be surprised if

698
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: he ran off with it because he's built a little

699
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: bit bigger than Jake but kind of like that thick stout, can.

700
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Move very quick feet.

701
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Eli Cox got in this

702
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: competition at center. But with the centers in this draft,

703
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: I would feel like they're gonna get one and throw

704
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: them into the competition. I feel like guard, uh, it's

705
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: it's definitely there. And look, if Evan Brown doesn't win

706
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: center competition, then he's definitely center guard, can play either.

707
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: He's the key interior guy that you can have to

708
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: play either one of those spots. I think what becomes

709
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: interesting and I'll use Sean and Seth as a comparison

710
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: point because you have gone out and got Evan Brown,

711
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: because you have brought in Wyatt Teller and re signed

712
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: at Ingram, where does that leave Jared Patterson? And then

713
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: that tackle because you've signed Braden Smith, where does that

714
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: leave Blake Fisher? Two guys that have been in the

715
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: roster for the last two three years. Where does that

716
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: leave those two guys, Jared Patterson and Blake Fisher. That

717
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: becomes a competition of a different kind, right, and that

718
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: is how do they fit on the roster?

719
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Speaker 2: So I think competition at center.

720
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: I think competition in where Jared Patterson and Blake Fisher

721
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: are gonna fit.

722
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: I think from a tight end perspective.

723
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, Dalton's gonna Dalton's gonna get a majority

724
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: of the reps. But can Luke Lasha get in this thing?

725
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: Can he get into competition? Can he with a year

726
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: under his belt? Now, can he kind of flash and

727
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: get their attention. Where is Cad Stover in year three?

728
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: I said last year, I thought he's gonna break out,

729
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: then he got and that kind of just miird him

730
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 3: in the muck. The rest of the way, Kate stays healthy.

731
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Speaker 3: I think that tight end competition becomes really interesting and

732
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised.

733
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 2: And you did it in vandermonk two dot zero.

734
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if it happens because I think he's

735
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: gonna be long gone. But what if you drafted Kenyan

736
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: Sadek in the first round. What if you drafted Eli

737
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: Stowers from Vanderbilt at number thirty eight?

738
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this could definitely happen.

739
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: You could absolutely question add those pieces at tight end

740
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: and now that becomes one hell of a competition for

741
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: probably three roster spots.

742
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's gonna be tough. Yeah, that's that's interesting.

743
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting exercise actually because it shows

744
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: you that you're looking at depth.

745
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Really, you're looking at depth.

746
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: All around this roster on a twelve win football team,

747
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: tied for the all time high in victories in a season.

748
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: So that's how you're handling it. And you tell me

749
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: if I'm right about this. I predict in training can

750
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: never Mind OTA's Mini Camp Training Camp, They're going to

751
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: lighten the load just a little bit for Daniel Hunter

752
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson Junior.

753
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: Because it does two things for you.

754
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: It enables your offense to possibly get something done, and

755
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: it lightens their load a little bit.

756
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: You still want to get them physically ready.

757
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Demko's not going to want to slack off on the

758
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: physical ramping up, but you want to see what Dylan

759
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Horton can do at this stage of his career. You

760
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: want to get Dominique Robinson a lot of reps, and again,

761
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: you want to make it so the offense isn't being

762
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: destroyed on every rep. You want them to iron sharpens

763
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: iron their way into being better on the OD line.

764
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: But I think they have to have some success at

765
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Will as well. I remember last year during camp the

766
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: times where they took Will and Daniel out, well, the

767
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: offense looked a little better. And lo and behold that

768
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: is the case because you are missing to all universe

769
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: players in Anderson and Hunters. So you tell me if

770
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm right or wrong about that about just lightening the

771
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: rep load a little bit for those two guys.

772
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely not in one hundred percent.

773
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: When you tease this going in, that was one of

774
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: the things that popped up to me. Who is the

775
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: third rusher? Who is that third rusher that could lock

776
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: in that spot behind Will and Daniel. I think Dylan

777
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: Horton was underrated the last half of the year. In particular.

778
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: I think he did one heck of a job. Didn't

779
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: really get the notoriety, but he had a lot of pressures,

780
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: he had a lot of TFLs. He set the edge

781
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: really really well. I trust him. I feel like the

782
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: staff trusts him. But he's going to the last year

783
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 3: of his contract, so you know, maybe it's a contract deal.

784
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 3: Derek Barney I think still has something left in his game,

785
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: but he's not on the roster right now. Maybe once

786
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: they go through the draft and they see what they

787
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: can do in the draft or what they find in

788
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: the draft, then maybe they called Derek back up and go, hey, man,

789
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: we really need you.

790
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: I think they need a.

791
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: Young piece to start to emerge on the edge, whether

792
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: that's a guy in this draft, whether that's Solomon Byrd

793
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: taking another step, and then I think he's come along

794
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: really well each and every year.

795
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: I know it to him.

796
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: It probably is like, Dude, I want to play, I

797
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: want to get on a field. But I think they've

798
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: ramped him up each and every year such that he

799
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: can get on a field at some point and start

800
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: to show the progress that he has made as a player.

801
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: But Mark, this is a really good edge draft.

802
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: And the more that I've thought about this, the more

803
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 3: I feel like and what we're talking we just talked about,

804
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: I feel like there might be a unique pass rush

805
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: piece that they can add to this defense. And I

806
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: say it like that because I know the Texans can't

807
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: draft Darvel Reese from out of Ohio state. But Arvel

808
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Reese is a guy who can play off the ball linebacker.

809
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: He can then rush on third down. Maybe that's the

810
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: kind of guy that they can find in the draft

811
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 3: that can do a little bit of everything, that can

812
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: be a different type rusher that can compliment willing Daneel

813
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: when they're on the field, but can also rush when

814
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: they're off the field. That would be kind of interesting

815
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: to me. Now, there are a few guys that kind

816
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: of fit that. Anthony Hill junior from Texas can do

817
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. You know, is that a

818
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: guy that twenty eight. You think about thirty eight, You

819
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: think about.

820
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so could that be something they look at.

821
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: Maybe our Mason Thomas from out of Oklahoma is a true

822
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: pass rusher, but he's different from Will and Daniel in

823
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: that he's just got absolute bounce off the snap, like

824
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: he is so fast off the snap. When we've had

825
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: pass rushers in the past. We talked about this in

826
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: the first segment, what Mario jd All the great pass

827
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: rushers we had, Will and Daniel, we really haven't had

828
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: that Von Miller type. When I mentioned speed, he just

829
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: scares everybody with the speed off the edge. We haven't

830
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: really had that. We've had freakazoids on the outside that

831
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: can win with all these different kinds of moves, but

832
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: very rarely if we had a guy that could just

833
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 3: flat out turn the edge, turn a corner and put

834
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on a tackle because he's so fast.

835
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: Oh that coming Mason Thomas might do it.

836
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: That coming off the sideline, I got a break, Will

837
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: and Toil there. Oh wait a minute, right, that coming

838
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: off the sideline would be cool?

839
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: All right?

840
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: Also cool EJ speed. We'll hear some of that conversation

841
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: we had with him and also we'll go around the league.

842
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: It's coming up next here on Texans All Access. Final

843
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: segment of the night here on Texans Radio. Great to

844
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: have your board. And plenty of stuff going on around

845
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: the NFL as always, and this is a very busy

846
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: Houston sports week, as Johnny and I talked about yesterday,

847
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: with NCAA Regionals going on at Toyota Center this weekend.

848
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: The Koog's in the house for that. Talk to Tag

849
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: Dell briefly in the hallway about that. He's all fired up.

850
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Every Kug is fired up. Every Houstonian should be fired up.

851
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: This is cool stuff. And the Houston open at a

852
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: memorial My gosh, that's gonna be fun. Astro's opening day.

853
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: But the NFL never sleeps, right, never sleeps. News coming

854
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: in all the time. A lot of talk about eighteen

855
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: games because this could happen now. CBS and the NFL

856
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: discussing increasing the CBS rights fee in exchange, So they're

857
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: going to tear up the current broadcast contract, maybe in

858
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: exchange for dropping the twenty twenty nine opt out clause.

859
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: And the NFL is definitely going to opt out of

860
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: every single deal to get more money, because why not

861
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: the contracts are more valuable than ever, the rights to

862
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: league broadcasts more valuable than ever. You have a situation

863
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: where nbcpacock they are actually paying more to the NBA

864
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: right now, just briefly, and the NFL is definitely going

865
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: to have that change.

866
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: Why not.

867
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: They're more valuable, But the NBA very valuable as well

868
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: to broadcast partners because it's live sports, and nothing moves

869
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the needle like live sports. But the NFL crushes the needle.

870
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: The NFL takes the needle and throws it away. The

871
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: NFL owns the needle. The NFL is that powerful. So

872
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: to see this, you might see all the broadcast partners

873
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: redo their deals in the coming year.

874
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 2: And we go to eighteen games, and that's gonna be interesting.

875
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Two preseason games, eighteen regular season games, and one of

876
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: the games will be for an international outing. That means

877
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: every team will go international every year. You're gonna go

878
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: somewhere every year off American soil, and that is going

879
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: to be super interesting to follow for the fans, media, everybody.

880
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: I know it's complex for the players, but they'll work

881
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: out a way to do it and try to make

882
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: it as comfortable as possible. There's a lot of money

883
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: in it for everybody, and I think it's cool to

884
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: promote the game on a global level and that would

885
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: be just in time for the Olympics. We'll see if

886
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: it all comes together. We don't know, but we'll all

887
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: be watching together now. I wanted to revisit this with

888
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: e J. Speed, who reupt with the Houston Texans and

889
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: he loves staying in his home state.

890
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: I know he was a cult but he is a Texan.

891
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: Saying close to family, being a part of his own

892
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: special like that deepest we had last year, that was important.

893
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: And uh, I think I said that the first day

894
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: I came. Uh, playing for Demico Ryans was always like

895
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: a a goal or whatever like that for me. So uh,

896
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean two more years, two m years, the you

897
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, to keep growing and keep making

898
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: it s, keep getting like the accomplishments, and keep growing

899
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: and just you know, becoming a better meat for sure,

900
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: in a better football player.

901
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: You wanted to be here last year, So how did

902
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: they measure up to your expectations before you got here?

903
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Clearly very well because you're back. But how was it

904
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: living out that first full years of texting.

905
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: Uh, actually it reached it. It far exceeded the expectations

906
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: that I had. How humble the locker room was. That

907
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 4: was a big thing for me, Like from the day

908
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: when the otag just seeing like the star, big contract players,

909
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: big name players, just being so humble and you know,

910
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: just you know, at every workout and you know, working

911
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: hard and staying down and not being like a prima

912
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: dognash in a sense. So like just the camaraderie in

913
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: the building and how the coaches and stuff was. It

914
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: was a real family oriented, uh organization, So it was cool.

915
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: Your attitude strikes me as unique. I mean maybe not

916
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: with this team, but with a lot of teams because

917
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: you're willing to do anything whatever it takes to win,

918
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: whether it be playing linebacker, playing special teams at a

919
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: high level.

920
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: What goes into that for you?

921
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: Uh, just always looking at the game as a serving

922
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: like I owe a game. I never think that the

923
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: game owe me, you know what I mean. The game

924
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: did so much for me, like growing up, giving me

925
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: a brother that I met when I was five through

926
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: the game of football and everything like that. He ended

927
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: up passing away my senior year. So I always feel

928
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: like the game of football gave me something more than

929
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: just the crowd and the accomplishments that you get out

930
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: of the game. It's a real family oriented thing. So,

931
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: like I said, that goes back to being a locker

932
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 4: room full of humble guys. It just boosts my morale

933
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: towards the game even more.

934
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: What about being in Texas, EJ? How important is that

935
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: to you?

936
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: Family is everything too else? Football and family like my

937
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: whole life. So being around my family, being in for

938
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: Worth and they can just drive down and see me play,

939
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: don't miss a game, a home game anyway, is it

940
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: means a lot to me. I got my nephew in

941
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: the city, my sister she lives in then, so it's uh,

942
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: it means a lot to me to be around family.

943
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: You mentioned your teammates.

944
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that struck you right

945
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: away as team leaders or guys that you could really

946
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: hang out with, be with and set the example with.

947
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 4: The whole lineback of course, So the whole linemanker. Of course,

948
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: that's the first room I walk into. That linebacker was

949
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: so humble when Henry and disease, you know, and Jake

950
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: and Jamal and Christian and all those guys. They were

951
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: just like so humbling and they all played their role,

952
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It wasn't a guy that

953
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: was trying to overtrump, you know, even though it is

954
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: a competition every time you hit the field, no matter

955
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: the opposing team and the camp with your teammates and

956
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 4: everything like that. But everybody accepted they role and everybody

957
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 4: was willing to do whatever.

958
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: So I fell right in.

959
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Honestly, the team got so close to its goals last year,

960
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: but I know you came up short. What about the

961
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: hunger on this team to take it to the next level,

962
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: the next steps.

963
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 4: Everybody want to strive. Uh, nobody satisfied. So I don't

964
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: doubt not a second that we'll reach that goal, just

965
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: because you know, mishaps and stuff like that happened in

966
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: those playoff games that we can that we shouldn't, that

967
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: we could have did better basically, and you know this

968
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: next year you learn from those mistakes. And honestly, yesterday,

969
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 4: rather good or bad, doesn't really matter. So it's always

970
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: about the next day. That whoever won a Super Bowl,

971
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's remembered to send the

972
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: history books, but it's history, so you know, work starts

973
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 4: and then we'll see who who gets that trophy at

974
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: the end of his season.

975
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: All right, there's our conversation with Ejspeed and that conversation

976
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: is part of a video that will be going up

977
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: on YouTube Houston Texans dot com soon enough. Can't say when?

978
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Soon enough? How's that for a release date promotion? And

979
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: also Texans Playbook, the TV show that you should be

980
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: watching Saturday nights at eleven pm, ten thirty five during

981
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: the season. There will be a quiz on this later.

982
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: You got to know when all these Texans shows are on.

983
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: My goodness, before you know it, we'll be back to

984
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: it training camp, preseason games.

985
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

986
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Look, we have a few things to do before that,

987
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: including the NFL Annual Meeting next week aka the Owners Meet.

988
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there. Our shows will originate from

989
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: out there in Phoenix. It's gonna be fun. That's gonna

990
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: do it for tonight. Another show tomorrow at six Area

991
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: forty five coming your way next. Have a great evening,

992
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Go Texans.