WEBVTT - The Truth is Really Out There: The Long Island UFO Network 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.640 Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Elizabeth Hey, Sarin, 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.560 you know it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous when you're walking 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.440 around and like a mall or a casino and you 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.840 get kind of disoriented in terms of like getting a 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.160 little bit lost and you lose track of time. That's ridiculous. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.600 But what's more ridiculous is that that's on purpose. What 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:26.960 do you mean. There was this architect, Victor Gruen, and 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.520 there's this thing called the Gruin transfer where he designed 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.560 things purposefully to be have a confusing layout in order 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.320 to get you to spend more time in a mall 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.280 lose track of time. Is this like how when I 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.000 kea you have to walk in and go through every 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.320 aisle before you can get out. Is that the ground effect? 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.960 I trans No. I think it's because that's sort of intentional. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.960 You feel like you're in a maze and there is 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.120 a map. I mean there are maps and malls, but 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.400 it's sort of like the elevators or the escalators are 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.880 a little bit kimbos sometimes in malls and you have 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:03.520 to really wander around to get up and down and interesting. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.280 And again no clocks. The casino things definitely, no clocks, 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:14.000 no windows. So in conclusion, in summary, getting lost in 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:18.000 them all ridiculous. I'm gonna take your word for it. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:19.960 Well that was a good one. I want counts now, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.200 I got one for you. How about the story? Uh 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.839 one that's set in the nineteen nineties. It's a very 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.759 X Files inspired tale of a network of UFO skywatchers 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.680 in Long Island, New York. That's not the ridiculous part. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.640 This group is led by a conservative political hopeful. Okay, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.680 that's not the ridiculous part. He was a retired court bailiff. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.399 Still not the ridiculous part. His colleagues included a self 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.520 professed time traveler. Is that the ridiculous We're getting there. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.480 He had a friend from college who was a scientist 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.280 whose day job was working for a government defense contractor 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.040 not so ridiculous. But eventually, the leader of this group, 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.400 the retired bailiff, he comes up with a plan to 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:04.520 assassin nate his Republican political rivals, the local political leadership, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:12.119 and his plan is to use radioactive material. Oh we want, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.359 But it's even better than that. He's going to sneak 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.480 into their homes and lace their toothpaste and spike their 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.919 Italian dinners with radioactive nuclear only the Italian dinners. There's 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:43.480 a whole story about that. We'll get into it. This 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.520 is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:54.880 heists and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous. Elizabeth, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.639 you ready for this one? I am. What do you 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:01.240 know about UFOs? That it stands for unidentified flying objects? 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.399 Very good, and that they come at night and take 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.960 us away? Okay, very good. Have you ever seen one? No? No, okay, Well, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:14.560 the first recorded UFO sighting in America was in sixty nine. Yeah, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.040 it happened in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. The founder, the 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.640 co founder of the colony, Governor Georgor J. Winthrop or 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.160 Winthorpe rather, he documented this event in his diary, and 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.839 in his March first diary he's talked of a group 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.440 of men who are on the Muddy River. I don't 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.320 know the Muddy River, but apparently it's is it? I 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.800 don't know. I thought maybe you'd know about it anyways, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.040 But I'm this thing called the Muddy River. And they 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.240 look up and they see what they described like to 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.520 be a flaming pig. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.360 exactly their words. How they put it was And this 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.880 is what Winthrop wrote in his diary, and I quote 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.040 when it stood still, it flamed up, and it was 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.200 about three yards square. When it ran, it was contracted 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.840 into the figure of a swine. It ran as swift 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.800 as narrow towards Charleston, and so up and down about 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.000 two or three hours. So in this when they're running, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.200 running in the sky means like flying. They don't have 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:10.880 a word for flying, because you know, I mean, they 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.920 do for birds what I'm saying, but they for this object, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.240 they're not going to describe it. It was running across 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.080 the sky. Okay, I'm glad you will, George, you know 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.560 he appreciates it. Um. So this great green light disappears 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.120 and these this group of men in their little dingy 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.400 boat on the muddy river, they find themselves a mile 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.400 up river and they're like, whoa, oh, so they lost 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.840 track of lost track of time, and they moved against 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.320 the current a full mile. So they're like, that's just 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.039 not right. Yeah. Now, that was the earliest UFO sighting, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.640 and since then there have been a series of I 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.080 don't want to say ridiculous, and I'm not going to 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.359 judge them, but all sorts of sightings that border on 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.360 the ludicrous border on the ridiculous, and some of them 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.080 are very scientific. So they run a arrange. Has anyone 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.400 else seen the hot pig? No one else mentioned the 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.400 hot pig in their diaries from the time that I 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.200 know of. Now they may have, and that just hasn't 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.440 come to me yet. Okay, yeah, let me know if 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.440 you see anything. I will keep you abreast of any 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.240 flying hot pigs, flaming pigs, sorry, hot pigs, hot pig, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:16.360 hot pig coming through. So this great green light, the 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.720 this UFO in the sky, this becomes kind of a 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.440 I don't want to say an American phenomenon because it's 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.760 not exclusively American. It's there everywhere everybody sees the people 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:29.839 on every continent have seen UFOs, right, But in the 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.800 American milieu of UFO sightings, it was something that just 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.920 would bubble up from time to time and people would 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.559 talk about it. But around the nineteen nineties it starts 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.880 to become a thing. Right, So the number of reported 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:49.119 UFO sightings were about three nineteen for the year. Now 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.799 in the number of UFO sightings. It's spiked a bunch. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.279 Can you guess how many numbers? How many was nineteen? 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:05.840 I don't know, five hundred thousand, note like a year. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.919 Let's say, I'm you're wilder with math than I. You 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.120 know what, I just I like to ballpark it. You 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.080 just gotta get close enough for government work. I say 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.760 six thousand. You are definitely close enough for government work. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.440 It was seven seven. I did it. Look at you. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.560 I'm really impressed, thank you. So why do you think 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.839 that it was Why do you think the sudden spike 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.320 in the nineties the aliens trying to show up because 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.560 they needed to get involved in the culture. What was 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.000 going on in the nineties that in the nineties, uh, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.279 grunge music boy bands. They wanted to go see Nirvana 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.000 alive well sort of the tail end of hair metal. Yeah, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.200 they could catch Deaf Leopard while the one our drummers 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.400 still banging gangster rap, gangster. They wanted to see what 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.920 easy you had to say about I don't know what 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.560 you tell me. Okay, we'll going with my man akam. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.000 The simplest explanation for why that spike occurred was a 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:05.000 TV show, Oh I know, September a TV show debut 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.200 called The X Files. Good TV show. You like that? 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.840 Did you watch it? Yeah? I totally watched, Like did 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.800 you watch it? I didn't. I didn't watch it initially, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.280 but I came to really like it later on when 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.640 I when I was around people like you who would 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.200 watch it, who told me you got to check this show, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:25.040 so you initials. Yes, my brother anytime anything about My 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.080 brother never watched it, and he liked to make fun 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.000 of me for watching it. And so if I had 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.040 said anything was like weird or curious, he'd be like, oh, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.880 tell me more molder, but he'd like, get a little speech, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.520 and I might have done a couple of jokes similar 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.920 to your brother. I feel like that would be on brand. Yes, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.200 that is very true. I just remember what got me 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.480 was the Smoking Man. When I saw an episode and 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:51.680 that dude was in it, I was into the whole, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.080 Like what the fans I have learned this called the 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.360 myth arc, like the Big Black Goo and all that storyline. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.680 That's what I was there for. The Monster of the Week. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.680 Show really didn't do a lot for me, but that 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.440 big arc I liked, and that smoking Man dude, he 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.280 does looked like a I don't like a truck stop 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.560 motel ashtray like probably smells, you know. I'm just like 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.160 that dude has been throwing. Meanwhile, he's like doing super 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.080 spy guys stuff with the aliens. Like, I just thought 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.440 that was hilarious. So now remember the shows catchphrase the 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:24.880 molder Molder had the UFO poster. I want to believe, right, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.320 is that it? I thought it was the truth is 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.520 out there? So yeah, I think the tagline though for 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.200 the show, You're right, the truth is out there? Okay, Well, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.160 that phrase the truth is out there became the catchphrase 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.400 the unifying principle for the hero or anti hero of 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.000 our story. How many people do you think have the 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.920 Truth is out there tattoos? Oh? I don't know seven 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.320 thou exactly exactly? I want to know. I want to 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.040 see people's best X files tattoos. That'd be cool. Yeah. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.119 The other thing that I like, aside from fandom tattoos, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.960 when I say like I used that loosely, um, I 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:05.439 enjoy looking at an art because it's so bad. It's 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.160 sort of changed though, but it used to be, like, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:08.640 I don't know, ten years ago, you could go on 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.400 Etsy and search fan art and see like some of 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.560 the worst art you'll ever seen in your entire life 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.240 of someone trying to like sell a picture of Matthew 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.800 McConaughey that looks like a kid with one arm tied 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.120 behind their back made an attempt. It's like five dollars, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.400 it's so good anyway, I got I'm sorry, I'm just 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.920 now daydreaming about X files fan art. Really bad versions. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.880 Go ahead, that's what we're here for, daydreaming. So the 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.160 anti hero that I had mentioned earlier, his name was 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.080 John Ford, just like the American filmmaker Yeah right, and 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.680 john Ford was also into the big American myths, so 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.040 only the big American myths. He was into where that 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.840 the U. S. Government was lying to us. They weren't 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:56.840 let my exactly. So in john Ford gets involved in 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.560 UFO investigations. There is this UFO that ashes on the 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:06.720 East coast. According to the September A bunch of people 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.560 the report that they have this sighting of an orange 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.480 light streaking across the night sky, right another flaming pig. Now, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.800 Ford is convinced that it was a military helicopter that 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.000 had shot down a UFO and the UFO was crashing 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.720 after like a sky battle. That was what he saw. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.360 Other people saw an orange light just tracing its path 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.080 to the Earth. And the official explanation was at the 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.600 military choppers that were in the area that Ford saw, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.559 we're shooting out aerial flares, and those aerial flares you 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.360 used to light up the water so that they could 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.960 see these fishermen who have been washed from their boat, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.640 and that that's what they were there to extensively seconds 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.880 exactly not John Ford's story. No flying pigs, flying pigs. Yeah, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.120 he's looking there for the flaming hot pig. So he 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:56.080 found something called the Long Island UFO network, right, and 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:00.400 this is a loose caball of fellow amateur ufologists like him. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.440 He found it. Yeah, founded, Oh found it. I thought 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.920 it was like, all of a sudden, tripped over. What 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.760 is this? Oh look, it's the Long IK's like a 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.640 tiny building somewhere, a very small movie now. But so 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.200 he basically creates this group and their whole goal is 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.240 to prove that the U. S. Military just shot down 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.480 a UFO and is in fact involved an interstellar warfare. Well, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.239 god speed, you gotta have goals, right, just start up high. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.800 So the group, though they can't find any evidence because 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.040 the alien was ship was apparently shot down over the sea, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.360 and they don't have submarines and they can't really gather anything. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.680 So they're talking to locals. They get a bunch of information, 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.080 but nothing happens. But four years later Ford in his 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.160 Long Island UFO network, they jump back into action in 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.800 the investigation world because this time a UFO crashes, but 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.439 it doesn't crash into water. He crashes on land. Now 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:55.280 they have something to investigate, crashes in a forest. So 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:01.559 I want you to picture it. Yes, I said four 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.520 years is actually three years, but it could be four 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.839 years if you count all the months. The X Files 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.520 will debut the very next year, so excited. About seven 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.520 pm on November, a man alone in his car is 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.640 driving on something called Sunrise Highway. It doesn't matter, but 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.720 basically it's paralleling the Montak Highway. And between these two 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.200 highways is this stretch of woods, right, so just imagine 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.600 East coast woods too high. So basically is driving down 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.840 the road down some next to some woods. There you go. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.160 He's looking south and the man sees an alien spacecraft 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.160 in the sky, or so he thinks. The man later 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.200 described it and I quote tubular in shape with two 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.800 large bright blue lights on each end, with a bright 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.640 white light in its center. Who structure was composed of 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.600 a dull, metallic gray texture. You know what that sounds like, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:54.400 hot pig sounds exactly too bright white. Okay, So the 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.400 alien spaceship it's you know, running across the sky, as 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.960 Winthrope would have said, and it then makes a hard 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.640 right turn like I'm talking a full on night return, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.880 which no earth bound aircraft could do. We don't have 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.160 a flying craft. Distinctions that you always hear is that 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.120 the the lights will suddenly and the sky will suddenly 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.319 make a sharp turn, the one that we couldn't do 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.760 it to speed we're most likely caused the person the 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.400 pilot to lose consciousness, right this pilot, if it was 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.880 a actual alien spaceship, they have something go wrong. And 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.960 if this hard nighty degree turn, because the ship suddenly 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.720 starts to fall from the sky and it's gravity tugs 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.960 into the earth, the UFO traces his bright arc and 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.320 that's what the guy driving watches, and then all sudden 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.080 it crashes into the wood right near that driver. So 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.360 the driver he notices a brilliant white beam light up 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.400 the sky and he said that day turned tonight. That's 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.680 how bright it was. Night turned today. What did I say, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.240 day turned tonight turned yes, night turned to day the opposite. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:02.080 It was so bright, so exactly around the earth, and 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:07.679 it blocked out the Okay, yeah, so night turned today momentarily, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.720 and then the woods caught fire. Yeah. So the man's like, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.800 oh jeez. He turns his car around, he starts driving 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.200 back towards the UFO crash, and everything's on fire. I'm 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.480 gonna go to the source of the crowd exactly. He's 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.600 a curious type. I respect his game. And he gets there, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.480 and by the time he gets there, there are already 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:30.440 military helicopters that have landed on the highway already. I 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.680 don't that's that's what all the news stories say. They 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.360 had already been landed. Men dressed in black, wearing military 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.880 style clothing but with no insignia or rank. They jump 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.120 out of these choppers and they start trading, basically trying 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.400 to control the area. They won't let anybody drive into 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.560 the woods where the crashes. They blocked those lanes and 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.040 they start directing traffic. Then local police and park police 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.560 come and they also start to help the man. He's like, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.560 I don't know if I get around them. That he's 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.320 a local, he knows the past. But he keeps driving 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.960 and eventually finds a place to pull over near the woods, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.840 and then he sees the tremendous fire burning in the 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.640 thicket of woods and he's like, yeah, I'm with Elizabeth, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.680 not for me to do. When he drives away. See good. Now. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.440 For the next four days, the park, which was typically 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.680 open to the public for whatever they wanted to do, 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.080 was closed. And the official reason that the government gives 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.200 is that the park is closed for duck hunting. Now, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.920 I looked it up. Duck hunting in New York following 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.600 federal guidelines because this was in New York, was not 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.120 allowed after sundown. Of course, the park would normally be 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.960 closed after sundown, so they only have to get rid 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.440 of the daytime hours. So this park, though, wasn't typically 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.280 enforced by men in black and military choppers. So there 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.320 are some issues that you know, I didn't know that 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.760 the military had anything to do with hunting seasons. I 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.320 didn't either. This is all new to me. I'm not 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.240 a hunter as an aside as you know, I like 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.560 to do I think that we should get black military 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.640 clothing and then a chopper. No, we don't need a chopper, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.600 but I think that if we put on I want 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.520 to see what would happen if we dressed up like 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.920 military people and and went and tried to get people 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.760 to do something in public. Not nothing bad, like just 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.320 go into like a supermarket and tell everyone they have 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.680 to leave. I think I need to get a haircut. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.120 I don't think you're dreadlocks with the men in black. Look, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.280 I don't think they were like, wow, they're really uh 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:22.040 drafting all sorts these days ususually dreads and me just bedraggled, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:27.520 just like this disheveled woman is telling me, okay, we'll 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.640 hire people. I just think it'd be interesting. How much 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.200 are people willing to do? Yeah, if you're in like 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.680 sort of military, I think we could get a lot 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.280 going on. Like I'm going to have to think on this. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.960 You get on Amazon, get us some black clothure. So 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.760 the real reason of why all this is going on, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.840 and the men in black and the choppers, none of 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.240 this is missed by our man john Ford. He knows 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.440 the answer. Yes, yes, just like that dude, what's Georgio 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.920 a Sukalos. I'd look this up. The dude like he's 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.880 from ancient Aliens. I just know him as ancient alien 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.240 guys with a crazy hair. His name is Georgio Sukulos. Yeah, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.560 so yeah, Mrs Sukulos would have been all about john 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.880 Ford's the conclusion because it's simple Aliens alien. It was Aliens. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.760 So now John Ford and his Long Island UFO network, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.840 they finally have a solid thing to investigate that got 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.800 this fire. They got all the evidence, so they just 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.359 have to wait for, like you know, the police to 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.040 allow them in. This takes many days, but eventually they 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.520 are able to go in and start investigating. But before 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.480 they do, john Ford starts his official report of the 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.520 events that transpired that evening and I quote, we knew 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.560 that something crashed into the park that night, and we 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.960 have bit by bit been able to finally put the 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.000 picture together. I Winness accounts of confirmed that a fire 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.399 was reported immediately after. Thanks John, there was a fire, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.080 so local firefighters that came out to stop the fire. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.000 We're from brook Haven National Laboratory Fire Department. If you 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.040 know brook Haven, it's a nuclear lap So that meant 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.080 to John full cover up right, but if we're saying 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.439 that some sort of aircraft that crashes, perhaps the best 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.239 people to address that kind of situation are not the 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.200 local volunteer fireman. But totally well, they happened, Brookhaven happened 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.840 to be really close. Both like um logical that they 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.720 would be the ones to respond, But then also your 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.560 point is well made that you would want these professionals 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.200 who deal with more emergency situations in the local costic 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.840 materials or that kind of exactly, or little alienmen scrambling 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.720 around running up trees exactly kind of watch them catch 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.040 him as hurting cats. I swear, can you catch everyone? 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.720 John Ford is convinced the Brookhaven though involvement that's hanky. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.359 He's like, no, no, no, son, there's no reason they 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.280 need to come over here and do that. So he 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.000 makes a note in his official report, which is like 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:52.960 in a spiral bound notebook. Exactly after five maybe six days, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.560 the park is finally reopened. Right, so Ford and his 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.919 crew is UFO crew go rushing in and they have 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.320 to get all that they can. So here and I 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.679 returned to his official report. We found an area that 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.879 was burned out and some trees were bent over a 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.320 section looked like it had been plowed over by machinery. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.919 We were getting a higher than normal radiation reading in 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.200 the area, higher than regular background radiation, and the fence 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.800 line in that area had no magnetic reading. Something had 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.920 stripped away the magnetic charge of the fence. Oh yeah, right, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.600 wild stuff. I don't know what any of that means exactly. 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.400 He had, like, you know, a Geiger counter out there. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.280 The crew did, and they were, you know, checking the 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.800 rank and readings on the radiation and they said, oh, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.840 this is higher than average. I don't know what they 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.240 said about this, you know, like maybe they were really 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.119 good and they were like, oh, we've got you know, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.879 data for the last few weeks months. I don't know 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.440 if they just like went out there like a couple 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.080 of days before. It's like, what was the last reading 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.000 we had in our notebook? John checked the spiral notebook. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.439 They're looking in the manual from their radio check Geiger counter. Yeah, Like, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.000 I have no idea. They don't mention this in the 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.320 official report, but before then, does have something very strange 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.800 occur and that helps him in his investigation. A firefighter 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.520 steps forward and says, I've got a tape for you. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.320 This is totally like out of the X file. He'd 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.600 recorded footage of the crash site. Yes, secretly. And so 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.040 now Ford has this tape from the UFO crash site. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.280 So what's on it? What do you think is on it? Um, 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.400 little dude scrambling around running up? You nailed it? So 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.520 and I quote Ford says, I can't say where I 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.080 got it from. These people who supplied the tape are 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.399 afraid that the government will go after them. One of 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.119 the major problems in researching UFOs is that people are 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.920 afraid of sounding like lunatics when describing strange, unexplained events. 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.160 You get involved with things that the government doesn't want 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.359 people to know, and they can make life pretty tough 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.879 for you. And he's not wrong about that, and he 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.600 goes on, we are still actively investigating this event. We 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.159 believe that an extraterrestrial craft with aliens crashed that night 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.000 in the park, and we are out to prove it. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.280 This is possibly one of the greatest events in the 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.480 history of man is John Ford told the local press. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.879 So what the heat? What is on the tape? I 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:09.399 know right, We'll be back after the short break and 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:11.760 I'll tell you all about the Long Island UFO network 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.880 and the tape that they discovered and what is on 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.040 it with the little men running up and down the tree. 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:39.119 I can't wait. So where were we, Elizabeth? You were 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.440 going to tell me what was on this video tape? Yes, well, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:47.439 the UFO crew, they this gang of UFO geeks what 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.840 will eventually turn into assassins with radioactive material. First they 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.000 have to have the hard proof that they can build 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.320 the foundation of belief on. And this tape is their 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:06.280 hard proof. This is such a wild jumpy like radioactive assassins. Okay, 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.960 So I'll need to tell you a little bit about 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:09.639 John Ford and then I'll get you right to the tape. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.760 My man, john Ford, he was a court bailiff, as 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.240 I told you, right, He went to college. He's an 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.800 educated man. He went to St. John's University in Queens, 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.280