1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Elizabeth Hey, Sarin, 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: you know it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous when you're walking 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: around and like a mall or a casino and you 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: get kind of disoriented in terms of like getting a 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: little bit lost and you lose track of time. That's ridiculous. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: But what's more ridiculous is that that's on purpose. What 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: do you mean. There was this architect, Victor Gruen, and 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: there's this thing called the Gruin transfer where he designed 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: things purposefully to be have a confusing layout in order 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: to get you to spend more time in a mall 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: lose track of time. Is this like how when I 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: kea you have to walk in and go through every 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: aisle before you can get out. Is that the ground effect? 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: I trans No. I think it's because that's sort of intentional. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: You feel like you're in a maze and there is 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: a map. I mean there are maps and malls, but 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: it's sort of like the elevators or the escalators are 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: a little bit kimbos sometimes in malls and you have 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: to really wander around to get up and down and interesting. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: And again no clocks. The casino things definitely, no clocks, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: no windows. So in conclusion, in summary, getting lost in 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: them all ridiculous. I'm gonna take your word for it. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Well that was a good one. I want counts now, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: I got one for you. How about the story? Uh 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: one that's set in the nineteen nineties. It's a very 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: X Files inspired tale of a network of UFO skywatchers 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: in Long Island, New York. That's not the ridiculous part. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: This group is led by a conservative political hopeful. Okay, 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: that's not the ridiculous part. He was a retired court bailiff. 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: Still not the ridiculous part. His colleagues included a self 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: professed time traveler. Is that the ridiculous We're getting there. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: He had a friend from college who was a scientist 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: whose day job was working for a government defense contractor 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: not so ridiculous. But eventually, the leader of this group, 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the retired bailiff, he comes up with a plan to 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: assassin nate his Republican political rivals, the local political leadership, 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: and his plan is to use radioactive material. Oh we want, 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: But it's even better than that. He's going to sneak 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: into their homes and lace their toothpaste and spike their 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: Italian dinners with radioactive nuclear only the Italian dinners. There's 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: a whole story about that. We'll get into it. This 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: heists and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous. Elizabeth, 44 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: you ready for this one? I am. What do you 45 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: know about UFOs? That it stands for unidentified flying objects? 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: Very good, and that they come at night and take 47 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: us away? Okay, very good. Have you ever seen one? No? No, okay, Well, 48 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the first recorded UFO sighting in America was in sixty nine. Yeah, 49 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: it happened in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. The founder, the 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: co founder of the colony, Governor Georgor J. Winthrop or 51 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Winthorpe rather, he documented this event in his diary, and 52 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: in his March first diary he's talked of a group 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of men who are on the Muddy River. I don't 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: know the Muddy River, but apparently it's is it? I 55 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I thought maybe you'd know about it anyways, 56 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: But I'm this thing called the Muddy River. And they 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: look up and they see what they described like to 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: be a flaming pig. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: exactly their words. How they put it was And this 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: is what Winthrop wrote in his diary, and I quote 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: when it stood still, it flamed up, and it was 62 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: about three yards square. When it ran, it was contracted 63 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: into the figure of a swine. It ran as swift 64 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: as narrow towards Charleston, and so up and down about 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: two or three hours. So in this when they're running, 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: running in the sky means like flying. They don't have 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: a word for flying, because you know, I mean, they 68 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: do for birds what I'm saying, but they for this object, 69 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: they're not going to describe it. It was running across 70 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the sky. Okay, I'm glad you will, George, you know 71 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: he appreciates it. Um. So this great green light disappears 72 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: and these this group of men in their little dingy 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: boat on the muddy river, they find themselves a mile 74 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: up river and they're like, whoa, oh, so they lost 75 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: track of lost track of time, and they moved against 76 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the current a full mile. So they're like, that's just 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: not right. Yeah. Now, that was the earliest UFO sighting, 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: and since then there have been a series of I 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say ridiculous, and I'm not going to 80 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: judge them, but all sorts of sightings that border on 81 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: the ludicrous border on the ridiculous, and some of them 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: are very scientific. So they run a arrange. Has anyone 83 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: else seen the hot pig? No one else mentioned the 84 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: hot pig in their diaries from the time that I 85 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: know of. Now they may have, and that just hasn't 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: come to me yet. Okay, yeah, let me know if 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: you see anything. I will keep you abreast of any 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: flying hot pigs, flaming pigs, sorry, hot pigs, hot pig, 89 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: hot pig coming through. So this great green light, the 90 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: this UFO in the sky, this becomes kind of a 91 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say an American phenomenon because it's 92 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: not exclusively American. It's there everywhere everybody sees the people 93 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: on every continent have seen UFOs, right, But in the 94 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: American milieu of UFO sightings, it was something that just 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: would bubble up from time to time and people would 96 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: talk about it. But around the nineteen nineties it starts 97 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: to become a thing. Right, So the number of reported 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: UFO sightings were about three nineteen for the year. Now 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: in the number of UFO sightings. It's spiked a bunch. 100 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: Can you guess how many numbers? How many was nineteen? 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred thousand, note like a year. 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Let's say, I'm you're wilder with math than I. You 103 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: know what, I just I like to ballpark it. You 104 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: just gotta get close enough for government work. I say 105 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: six thousand. You are definitely close enough for government work. 106 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: It was seven seven. I did it. Look at you. 107 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm really impressed, thank you. So why do you think 108 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: that it was Why do you think the sudden spike 109 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: in the nineties the aliens trying to show up because 110 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: they needed to get involved in the culture. What was 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: going on in the nineties that in the nineties, uh, 112 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: grunge music boy bands. They wanted to go see Nirvana 113 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: alive well sort of the tail end of hair metal. Yeah, 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: they could catch Deaf Leopard while the one our drummers 115 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: still banging gangster rap, gangster. They wanted to see what 116 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: easy you had to say about I don't know what 117 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: you tell me. Okay, we'll going with my man akam. 118 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: The simplest explanation for why that spike occurred was a 119 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: TV show, Oh I know, September a TV show debut 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: called The X Files. Good TV show. You like that? 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? Yeah? I totally watched, Like did 122 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: you watch it? I didn't. I didn't watch it initially, 123 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: but I came to really like it later on when 124 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I when I was around people like you who would 125 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: watch it, who told me you got to check this show, 126 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: so you initials. Yes, my brother anytime anything about My 127 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: brother never watched it, and he liked to make fun 128 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: of me for watching it. And so if I had 129 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: said anything was like weird or curious, he'd be like, oh, 130 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: tell me more molder, but he'd like, get a little speech, 131 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and I might have done a couple of jokes similar 132 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: to your brother. I feel like that would be on brand. Yes, 133 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: that is very true. I just remember what got me 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: was the Smoking Man. When I saw an episode and 135 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: that dude was in it, I was into the whole, 136 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Like what the fans I have learned this called the 137 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: myth arc, like the Big Black Goo and all that storyline. 138 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: That's what I was there for. The Monster of the Week. 139 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: Show really didn't do a lot for me, but that 140 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: big arc I liked, and that smoking Man dude, he 141 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: does looked like a I don't like a truck stop 142 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: motel ashtray like probably smells, you know. I'm just like 143 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: that dude has been throwing. Meanwhile, he's like doing super 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: spy guys stuff with the aliens. Like, I just thought 145 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: that was hilarious. So now remember the shows catchphrase the 146 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: molder Molder had the UFO poster. I want to believe, right, 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: is that it? I thought it was the truth is 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: out there? So yeah, I think the tagline though for 149 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: the show, You're right, the truth is out there? Okay, Well, 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: that phrase the truth is out there became the catchphrase 151 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: the unifying principle for the hero or anti hero of 152 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: our story. How many people do you think have the 153 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Truth is out there tattoos? Oh? I don't know seven 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: thou exactly exactly? I want to know. I want to 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: see people's best X files tattoos. That'd be cool. Yeah. 156 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,119 Speaker 1: The other thing that I like, aside from fandom tattoos, 157 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: when I say like I used that loosely, um, I 158 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: enjoy looking at an art because it's so bad. It's 159 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: sort of changed though, but it used to be, like, 160 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years ago, you could go on 161 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Etsy and search fan art and see like some of 162 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: the worst art you'll ever seen in your entire life 163 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: of someone trying to like sell a picture of Matthew 164 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: McConaughey that looks like a kid with one arm tied 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: behind their back made an attempt. It's like five dollars, 166 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: it's so good anyway, I got I'm sorry, I'm just 167 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: now daydreaming about X files fan art. Really bad versions. 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Go ahead, that's what we're here for, daydreaming. So the 169 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: anti hero that I had mentioned earlier, his name was 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: John Ford, just like the American filmmaker Yeah right, and 171 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: john Ford was also into the big American myths, so 172 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: only the big American myths. He was into where that 173 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: the U. S. Government was lying to us. They weren't 174 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: let my exactly. So in john Ford gets involved in 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: UFO investigations. There is this UFO that ashes on the 176 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: East coast. According to the September A bunch of people 177 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: the report that they have this sighting of an orange 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: light streaking across the night sky, right another flaming pig. Now, 179 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Ford is convinced that it was a military helicopter that 180 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: had shot down a UFO and the UFO was crashing 181 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: after like a sky battle. That was what he saw. 182 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Other people saw an orange light just tracing its path 183 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: to the Earth. And the official explanation was at the 184 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: military choppers that were in the area that Ford saw, 185 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: we're shooting out aerial flares, and those aerial flares you 186 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: used to light up the water so that they could 187 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: see these fishermen who have been washed from their boat, 188 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: and that that's what they were there to extensively seconds 189 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: exactly not John Ford's story. No flying pigs, flying pigs. Yeah, 190 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: he's looking there for the flaming hot pig. So he 191 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: found something called the Long Island UFO network, right, and 192 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: this is a loose caball of fellow amateur ufologists like him. 193 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: He found it. Yeah, founded, Oh found it. I thought 194 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: it was like, all of a sudden, tripped over. What 195 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: is this? Oh look, it's the Long IK's like a 196 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: tiny building somewhere, a very small movie now. But so 197 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: he basically creates this group and their whole goal is 198 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: to prove that the U. S. Military just shot down 199 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: a UFO and is in fact involved an interstellar warfare. Well, 200 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,239 Speaker 1: god speed, you gotta have goals, right, just start up high. 201 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: So the group, though they can't find any evidence because 202 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the alien was ship was apparently shot down over the sea, 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: and they don't have submarines and they can't really gather anything. 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: So they're talking to locals. They get a bunch of information, 205 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: but nothing happens. But four years later Ford in his 206 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Long Island UFO network, they jump back into action in 207 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: the investigation world because this time a UFO crashes, but 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't crash into water. He crashes on land. Now 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: they have something to investigate, crashes in a forest. So 210 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: I want you to picture it. Yes, I said four 211 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: years is actually three years, but it could be four 212 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: years if you count all the months. The X Files 213 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: will debut the very next year, so excited. About seven 214 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: pm on November, a man alone in his car is 215 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: driving on something called Sunrise Highway. It doesn't matter, but 216 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: basically it's paralleling the Montak Highway. And between these two 217 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: highways is this stretch of woods, right, so just imagine 218 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: East coast woods too high. So basically is driving down 219 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: the road down some next to some woods. There you go. 220 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: He's looking south and the man sees an alien spacecraft 221 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: in the sky, or so he thinks. The man later 222 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: described it and I quote tubular in shape with two 223 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: large bright blue lights on each end, with a bright 224 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: white light in its center. Who structure was composed of 225 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: a dull, metallic gray texture. You know what that sounds like, 226 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: hot pig sounds exactly too bright white. Okay, So the 227 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: alien spaceship it's you know, running across the sky, as 228 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: Winthrope would have said, and it then makes a hard 229 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: right turn like I'm talking a full on night return, 230 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: which no earth bound aircraft could do. We don't have 231 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: a flying craft. Distinctions that you always hear is that 232 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: the the lights will suddenly and the sky will suddenly 233 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: make a sharp turn, the one that we couldn't do 234 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: it to speed we're most likely caused the person the 235 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: pilot to lose consciousness, right this pilot, if it was 236 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: a actual alien spaceship, they have something go wrong. And 237 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: if this hard nighty degree turn, because the ship suddenly 238 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: starts to fall from the sky and it's gravity tugs 239 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: into the earth, the UFO traces his bright arc and 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: that's what the guy driving watches, and then all sudden 241 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: it crashes into the wood right near that driver. So 242 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: the driver he notices a brilliant white beam light up 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: the sky and he said that day turned tonight. That's 244 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: how bright it was. Night turned today. What did I say, 245 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: day turned tonight turned yes, night turned to day the opposite. 246 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: It was so bright, so exactly around the earth, and 247 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: it blocked out the Okay, yeah, so night turned today momentarily, 248 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: and then the woods caught fire. Yeah. So the man's like, 249 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: oh jeez. He turns his car around, he starts driving 250 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: back towards the UFO crash, and everything's on fire. I'm 251 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna go to the source of the crowd exactly. He's 252 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: a curious type. I respect his game. And he gets there, 253 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: and by the time he gets there, there are already 254 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: military helicopters that have landed on the highway already. I 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: don't that's that's what all the news stories say. They 256 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: had already been landed. Men dressed in black, wearing military 257 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: style clothing but with no insignia or rank. They jump 258 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: out of these choppers and they start trading, basically trying 259 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: to control the area. They won't let anybody drive into 260 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: the woods where the crashes. They blocked those lanes and 261 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: they start directing traffic. Then local police and park police 262 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: come and they also start to help the man. He's like, 263 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I get around them. That he's 264 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: a local, he knows the past. But he keeps driving 265 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and eventually finds a place to pull over near the woods, 266 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: and then he sees the tremendous fire burning in the 267 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: thicket of woods and he's like, yeah, I'm with Elizabeth, 268 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: not for me to do. When he drives away. See good. Now. 269 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: For the next four days, the park, which was typically 270 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: open to the public for whatever they wanted to do, 271 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: was closed. And the official reason that the government gives 272 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: is that the park is closed for duck hunting. Now, 273 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I looked it up. Duck hunting in New York following 274 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: federal guidelines because this was in New York, was not 275 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: allowed after sundown. Of course, the park would normally be 276 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: closed after sundown, so they only have to get rid 277 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: of the daytime hours. So this park, though, wasn't typically 278 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: enforced by men in black and military choppers. So there 279 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: are some issues that you know, I didn't know that 280 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the military had anything to do with hunting seasons. I 281 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: didn't either. This is all new to me. I'm not 282 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: a hunter as an aside as you know, I like 283 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: to do I think that we should get black military 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: clothing and then a chopper. No, we don't need a chopper, 285 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: but I think that if we put on I want 286 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: to see what would happen if we dressed up like 287 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: military people and and went and tried to get people 288 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: to do something in public. Not nothing bad, like just 289 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: go into like a supermarket and tell everyone they have 290 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: to leave. I think I need to get a haircut. 291 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you're dreadlocks with the men in black. Look, 292 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they were like, wow, they're really uh 293 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: drafting all sorts these days ususually dreads and me just bedraggled, 294 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: just like this disheveled woman is telling me, okay, we'll 295 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: hire people. I just think it'd be interesting. How much 296 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: are people willing to do? Yeah, if you're in like 297 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: sort of military, I think we could get a lot 298 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: going on. Like I'm going to have to think on this. 299 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: You get on Amazon, get us some black clothure. So 300 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: the real reason of why all this is going on, 301 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: and the men in black and the choppers, none of 302 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: this is missed by our man john Ford. He knows 303 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the answer. Yes, yes, just like that dude, what's Georgio 304 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: a Sukalos. I'd look this up. The dude like he's 305 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: from ancient Aliens. I just know him as ancient alien 306 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: guys with a crazy hair. His name is Georgio Sukulos. Yeah, 307 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, Mrs Sukulos would have been all about john 308 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Ford's the conclusion because it's simple Aliens alien. It was Aliens. 309 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: So now John Ford and his Long Island UFO network, 310 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: they finally have a solid thing to investigate that got 311 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: this fire. They got all the evidence, so they just 312 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: have to wait for, like you know, the police to 313 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: allow them in. This takes many days, but eventually they 314 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: are able to go in and start investigating. But before 315 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: they do, john Ford starts his official report of the 316 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: events that transpired that evening and I quote, we knew 317 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: that something crashed into the park that night, and we 318 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: have bit by bit been able to finally put the 319 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: picture together. I Winness accounts of confirmed that a fire 320 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: was reported immediately after. Thanks John, there was a fire, 321 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: so local firefighters that came out to stop the fire. 322 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: We're from brook Haven National Laboratory Fire Department. If you 323 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: know brook Haven, it's a nuclear lap So that meant 324 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: to John full cover up right, but if we're saying 325 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: that some sort of aircraft that crashes, perhaps the best 326 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: people to address that kind of situation are not the 327 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: local volunteer fireman. But totally well, they happened, Brookhaven happened 328 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: to be really close. Both like um logical that they 329 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: would be the ones to respond, But then also your 330 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: point is well made that you would want these professionals 331 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: who deal with more emergency situations in the local costic 332 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: materials or that kind of exactly, or little alienmen scrambling 333 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: around running up trees exactly kind of watch them catch 334 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: him as hurting cats. I swear, can you catch everyone? 335 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: John Ford is convinced the Brookhaven though involvement that's hanky. 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, son, there's no reason they 337 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: need to come over here and do that. So he 338 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: makes a note in his official report, which is like 339 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: in a spiral bound notebook. Exactly after five maybe six days, 340 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: the park is finally reopened. Right, so Ford and his 341 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: crew is UFO crew go rushing in and they have 342 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: to get all that they can. So here and I 343 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: returned to his official report. We found an area that 344 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: was burned out and some trees were bent over a 345 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: section looked like it had been plowed over by machinery. 346 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: We were getting a higher than normal radiation reading in 347 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: the area, higher than regular background radiation, and the fence 348 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: line in that area had no magnetic reading. Something had 349 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: stripped away the magnetic charge of the fence. Oh yeah, right, 350 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: wild stuff. I don't know what any of that means exactly. 351 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: He had, like, you know, a Geiger counter out there. 352 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: The crew did, and they were, you know, checking the 353 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: rank and readings on the radiation and they said, oh, 354 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: this is higher than average. I don't know what they 355 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: said about this, you know, like maybe they were really 356 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: good and they were like, oh, we've got you know, 357 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: data for the last few weeks months. I don't know 358 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: if they just like went out there like a couple 359 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: of days before. It's like, what was the last reading 360 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: we had in our notebook? John checked the spiral notebook. 361 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: They're looking in the manual from their radio check Geiger counter. Yeah, Like, 362 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea. They don't mention this in the 363 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: official report, but before then, does have something very strange 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: occur and that helps him in his investigation. A firefighter 365 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: steps forward and says, I've got a tape for you. 366 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: This is totally like out of the X file. He'd 367 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: recorded footage of the crash site. Yes, secretly. And so 368 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: now Ford has this tape from the UFO crash site. 369 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: So what's on it? What do you think is on it? Um, 370 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: little dude scrambling around running up? You nailed it? So 371 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: and I quote Ford says, I can't say where I 372 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: got it from. These people who supplied the tape are 373 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: afraid that the government will go after them. One of 374 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the major problems in researching UFOs is that people are 375 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: afraid of sounding like lunatics when describing strange, unexplained events. 376 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: You get involved with things that the government doesn't want 377 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: people to know, and they can make life pretty tough 378 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: for you. And he's not wrong about that, and he 379 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: goes on, we are still actively investigating this event. We 380 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: believe that an extraterrestrial craft with aliens crashed that night 381 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: in the park, and we are out to prove it. 382 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: This is possibly one of the greatest events in the 383 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: history of man is John Ford told the local press. 384 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: So what the heat? What is on the tape? I 385 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: know right, We'll be back after the short break and 386 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about the Long Island UFO network 387 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: and the tape that they discovered and what is on 388 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: it with the little men running up and down the tree. 389 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: I can't wait. So where were we, Elizabeth? You were 390 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: going to tell me what was on this video tape? Yes, well, 391 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: the UFO crew, they this gang of UFO geeks what 392 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: will eventually turn into assassins with radioactive material. First they 393 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: have to have the hard proof that they can build 394 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: the foundation of belief on. And this tape is their 395 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: hard proof. This is such a wild jumpy like radioactive assassins. Okay, 396 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: So I'll need to tell you a little bit about 397 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: John Ford and then I'll get you right to the tape. 398 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: My man, john Ford, he was a court bailiff, as 399 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I told you, right, He went to college. He's an 400 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: educated man. He went to St. John's University in Queens, 401 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: New York. He graduated. He then went on to earn 402 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: a master's degree, and then that's when he took a 403 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: job at the Brooklyn Criminal Court as a bailiff. So 404 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: he's a bailiff with the master's degree, Masters in Public Administration. 405 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: So he's also a very kind hearted guy. Everyone who 406 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: knew john Ford described him. They'd say that John ford Um. 407 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: He would adopt dogs from the pound. He delivered emergency 408 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: supplies where people were affected by a local hurricane. He 409 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: was also the type of person who would cry when 410 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: he struck a cat with his car. Well, I would hope. So, no, 411 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like a jerk about it. 412 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: But not every human being he's like you, or they're 413 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: going to cry when they had a cat. And this 414 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: guy is a court bailiff. He's a man who carries 415 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: a gun for his living. I just wanted to let 416 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: you know he's a soft version of a man who 417 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: carries a gun for a living in the sense that 418 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: he cares about the loss of life. It is not 419 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: something he expects and rationalizes a way. It's just like 420 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: a cruel world. It's not running down Kitti kats on 421 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: the highway. No, he's not, definitely not doing that. So 422 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: basically my point is, dude as a big heart, and 423 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: he's college educated, right, okay, But he also he never 424 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: got married. He was engaged twice, but he never got married. 425 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: Neither engagement lasted yet, so he remained his mother's constant companion. 426 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: He lived with his mom until she passed away in 427 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: the nineties. Now, Catherine Ford, his mother, she was the 428 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: one who got him into politics. She was big into 429 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: local politics. She ran for local offices over and over again. 430 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: In fact, she pushed her son to do it. She 431 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: got him to found the local Conservative Party Club, that's 432 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: what he called it, Conservative Party Club. And he threw 433 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: his club's support behind his mother's candidacies. And she never 434 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: won in a single election. Yet over time john Ford 435 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: and his mother they both kind of get angry and 436 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: bitter at the locals. They don't think the Republicans really 437 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: appreciate what they want to bring to local politics. Right, 438 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: So this bighearted john Ford, he starts, you know, turning 439 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: his energies inward, and he starts a weapons collection. He 440 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: gets bulletproof fest and Ammo knives of all kinds. Right, 441 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: he starts reading Soldier of Fortune magazine. He's just like 442 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: feeding these fantasies of getting violent revenge. So this bailiff 443 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: bind you. As I mentioned before, he's supposed to carry 444 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: a gun, right, so he's not that good with a gun. 445 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: He's not known he's able to pass his his gun exam, 446 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: so he can like still legally that you know, carry 447 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: the gun. But nobody'd be like, hey, crack shot, why 448 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: don't you come over here? And exactly, So he's mostly 449 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: other than his weapons collection, he's known for collecting trains. 450 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: He had apparently a great model train collection. So basically 451 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: the dudes like a big kid. He's reading Fortune magazine, 452 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: he's collecting knives, and he's got a train collection that 453 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: he and his mom wanted to be involved in local politics, 454 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: which is sort of like the lifeblood of American democracy 455 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: right ground floor. And if they feel they can't get in, 456 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: like this backlash against the system they want to be 457 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: in so badly this the government, Like I mean, I 458 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: can see it doesn't make it right, but it's like 459 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: you can see the psychology behind it. You know, they've 460 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: been they feel kind of denied and and that will 461 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: play out over and over again. But it also tells 462 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: me they're underlying issue gentle and generous. So I like 463 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: that about So this big kid with his knife collection 464 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: and his model trains and his inability to to you know, 465 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: hit a target with a gun captain red flag because 466 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: he's focusing At this point, his mother passes away, right 467 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: and he's left on his own. He lives in the 468 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: house by himself. He starts focusing on his Long Island 469 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: UFHE network, which he is the president of, so it 470 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: gives him some level of power. Injures his back at works, 471 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: so he has to quit, he has to retire as 472 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: a bailiff, and he just basically starts to focus on 473 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: being a you know, a ufologists essentially right, but also 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: the leader of men, like the leader of this group. 475 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: So when the crash occurs, john Ford becomes convinced that 476 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: in that crash that I told you about in the 477 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: woods with this spaceship, that seventeen aliens died in this crash. 478 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: Where the number seventeen comes from, I couldn't quite tell you, 479 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: but he just because one plus seven equals eight, and 480 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: if you ate the food that they were putting in 481 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: your brain from the government, you would know that one 482 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: more than eight is nine, and nine plus eight is 483 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: a number of lives that a cat has. And he 484 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: will not he will not laugh when he runs over 485 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a cat. There's the bow on the top, thank you, 486 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: all tied up in red. I'm gonna put that in 487 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: my official report. So he speaking official reports. He starts compiling, 488 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: as I told you, his official report of the accident, 489 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: and he gets that tape. Right now, he's convinced that 490 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: this tape will give evidence that the brook Haven National 491 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Laboratory is hiding these seventeen aliens that were part of 492 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: the crash. Do you think he has like a big 493 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: tan filing cabinet in his home and that all the 494 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: official reports for all the various incidences are in there 495 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: as well as like phone bills and he just doesn't 496 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: want to throw away because he doesn't want the garbageman 497 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: to have his personal Yes, I do think there were 498 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: certain hoardings in my head and organization of bureaus and 499 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: file cabinets and so Ford with his video tape that 500 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: he got from the firefighter who secretly recorded it on 501 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: the scene. He takes this because now that he's an 502 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: unemployed bailiff and his mother's gone, he takes the video 503 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: on the road. He starts going to UFO conventions and 504 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: conferences and he will show anyone and everyone who will 505 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: watch it, and he's like, I'm from the Long Island 506 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: UFO network. We've got this fresh tape that is changing 507 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: the landscape of ufology right now today, people are like, really, wow, 508 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: there's one problem though, the tape sucked the quality. The 509 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: quality was terrible. You could barely make out what was 510 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: happening because it was at night with a video camera. 511 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: And apparently the video allegedly showed men in black covering 512 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: up the suspected UFO crash site and they were putting 513 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: like silvery, silvery milon covers over what looked like a 514 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: human like figure. That's what he had. No like, this 515 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: is an alien. He's just like, oh, I can see 516 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: a leg and I think an arm, and oh, there 517 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: goes the sheet those shocked blankets exactly, Okay, So there 518 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: that that was his big reveal. Uniformed men placed silvery 519 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: milar coverings on what looked like maybe a small child 520 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: in the woods. I wish I were there for for 521 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: when they recorded that, because I'm sure it was amazing. 522 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: I wish I was there as someone whose conventions or 523 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: conferences and they be in the front row. What that's it? Well, no, 524 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be totally divided. You're going to 525 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: have people like Ford who are totally believing this and 526 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: no one in their bones to be true. But then 527 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: how terrifying is that is that if you know something 528 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: and everyone is like you're crazy. You know, like, that's 529 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: got to be a crap feeling. But then you're also 530 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: going to have the people who are sitting there like 531 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: arms crossed the video ends, they like, comes down it. 532 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I want to see that that debate. I just like, 533 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, a room full of nerds turning on each 534 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: other and as one I you know, I'm talking about 535 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: as I'm saying, I love this kind of stuff. So 536 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the tape is a hit on the conference circuit. It's 537 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: also questionable. So some people you pretty much called it. 538 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Some people are like, this is the proof we need. 539 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Other people are like, what are you talking about? Or 540 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: what I've always wanted to do? After a presentation, just 541 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: go boring. We need to get you to more presentations. 542 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Don't bring that can occur. We can make this one 543 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: stirred up the courage to do it someday hopefully. Now. 544 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: One thing I've kind of left out is that one 545 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: of the crashes, this alien crash, when I hit the forest, 546 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: the forest that later crash, the UFO crashed into the woods. 547 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Another UFO crash in the woods the second one, and 548 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: we had one right, So in ninety five, the UFO 549 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: crashes into pine barrens, right, and I couldn't read that 550 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: without hearing like Polly like walnuts in my head talking 551 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: about the Russian Is it the interior decorator? Decorator? Remember 552 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: so well? I love that episode, I really do. Yeah, 553 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: think of Sopranos. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. We should mention 554 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: it's the Sopranos if you don't know this television series, 555 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: The Sopranos aired on HBO. The Barrens episode I say 556 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: too much stuff where I think that everyone knows I'm 557 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, we should probably clear that reference. That's good. 558 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I like that. Throw an anchor here, much like Tony 559 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Soprano had his like crew of ne'er do well criminals 560 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: and loyal partisans but basically sold thank you, that's the 561 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: term soldiers. My man john Ford had his, and I 562 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: want to introduce you to the crew. Ready, we've got 563 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: the loyal right hand man government name Steve. I have 564 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: a own a. He was the vice president of the 565 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Long Island UFO network. He had business cars. Yeah, he 566 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: was an electric contractor. He was a big burly dude. 567 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: He was also sort of guy who believed he was 568 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: always under surveillance from men in black. That's the point 569 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: right now. There was also the KG veteran investigator him 570 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: government name Preston Nichols. Yeah. Now, Nichols was a heavy set, 571 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: fifty year old dude. He lived with his father and 572 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: in his bedroom he kept a rock collection. In the driveway, 573 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: he had parked an old school bus. It was it 574 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: was a project he was working on. He planned to 575 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: convert the school bus into a quote mobile UFO investigative unit. Now, 576 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: if you're wondering, hey erin, what does one keeping their 577 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: mobile UFO investigative unit? Don't worry, I got you covered right. 578 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Nichols kept him his school bus slash mobile UFO investigative 579 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: unit quote, a mind detector, a Geiger counter, a magnetic detector, 580 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: a gas detector, and I and his nation detector detector. 581 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: The first time I read it, I thought it said 582 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: mime detector. I was like, why would he need to 583 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: know where mimes are? Because they're sneaky? Yeah, because because 584 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: they're silent, you don't need Because he could have the 585 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: school bus and he starts it up and then his 586 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: son doesn't feel right and there's a mime clinging to 587 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: the undercarriage as like magnetic Yeah, and you're not going 588 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: to hear them silent killers's the silent per This KG 589 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: veteran investigator Nichols. He believed that his UFO buddy john 590 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: Ford was getting too close to the truth, and he 591 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: tried to warn him, basically going like, hey, man, I 592 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: don't know, they're getting real close. We gotta be smart. Son, 593 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: And like, you know, four was a little more confident 594 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: because you know, he was in the courts, he was 595 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: a bailiff. He knows how power works. He's like, look, 596 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: it's an insider. I'm not afraid yet. And they're like okay, right, 597 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: and he's like yeah, because Nichols is like, man, you 598 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: got to be smart about this because one day it's 599 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: going to cost you your life. Now he was kind 600 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: of close, kind of close because it did cost him 601 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot. So we have for what is the president? 602 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: Nichols is the VP I have a rone is the 603 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: vp MS. He's the KG investigator. He's our veteran investigator. 604 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: He's the one with the school bus. I'm just trying 605 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: to keep picture in my head. Now. You also have 606 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: to keep in mind Nichols is also the one who 607 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: was a time traveler. Remember I told you there's a 608 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: time traveler that's Nichols, and he's a time traveler. Yeah, 609 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: and he lives with his dad and he has a 610 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: rock collection. He's if I wrote a short story about this, 611 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: people be like, stopped, this is just mean yeah problem, yeah, no, 612 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: the reality is always better. I'm telling you, it's wild. 613 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: So this dude, Nichols, he told the Washington Post and 614 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: I quote, yes, I didn't believe in time travel until 615 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: I saw evidence that I had time traveled. I just 616 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: love that quote so much. How do you see evidence 617 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: that you time traveled? Good question. What turns out was 618 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: he had been watching the news and he saw himself 619 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: on TV, the local news show, this firefighter fighting one 620 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: of the fires in the woods with them. So he 621 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: sees his Firefighter's like, that's me. That's younger me. Come 622 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: from the future or come from the past rather, And 623 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I've been sent to the future to gather up evidence 624 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: of the aliens because we apparently know that they're trying 625 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: to hide it. I'm like, I don't think that's how 626 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: it works. I think you send yourself from the future 627 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: to the past. That's on the past, and it was 628 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: him fighting a fire. Yeah, you know what if we 629 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: see ourselves on TV? That was past us doing whatever 630 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: because it's not lie. But I like the future him 631 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: apparently the same timeline because his past self was the 632 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: one who was sent into the into the forward in time. 633 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any memory of this. He just sees 634 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: himself and he's like as a kid who as a 635 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: young as a young man. He's zapped forward in time 636 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: to work as a firefighter in a local National Laboratories 637 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: fire department by whom the people of the future who 638 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: are also in the past. I don't know, I don't know. 639 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: To get out of that school bus in Hay. He's 640 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: got too many electronics and too many chemicals. He needs 641 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: to touch grass, so definitely some hard grass, maybe like 642 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: a roll in the grass, not just touch it like 643 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: put it all over. Now, the best friend from college 644 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: was also part of the crew. He was part of 645 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: this Long Island UFO crew. So we have the best 646 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: friend from college, turn defense contractor employee, last member of 647 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: our crew, government name Edward Zabo. Edward, he's a forty 648 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: nine year old electrical inspector and he works at Northrop 649 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Grumman Groman. So now he was the plug for the 650 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: radioactive waste that will come into the assassination plot. Yeah, right. 651 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: So leading up to the nuclear assassination plot, john Ford 652 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: starts experiencing a series of devastating personal blows. I've already 653 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: told you about one. He injured his back and he 654 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: loses his job. He loses his mother two years later. 655 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: So in ninety three, he loses he injured his back, 656 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: his mother passes away. Now he's alone in the world, untethered. 657 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: So what does he start doing. Starts hanging out with 658 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: local small time criminals. Well, why not, you know, he 659 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: just needs to meet interesting people, the stories to tell. Ye, 660 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: that's the place, right. So the KG veteran investigator Nichols, 661 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he was the one who I told you believe his 662 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: younger self was a mysterious firefighter from the past. Now 663 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: he was the one who would basically act as kind 664 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: of the voice of reason for john Ford. You can 665 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: start to see where the problems are, right. So Ford 666 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: his meanwhile focused on this government cover up of the 667 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: UFOs that keep crashing near him. They crash in the ocean, 668 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: they crashed in the woods. He's like, they're shooting him down. 669 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: There's clearly a fight going on. They're hiding their dead 670 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: bodies at the brook Haven, and he decides that is 671 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: the local Republican political leaders in Suffolk County who are 672 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: the key to all of this is they're the ones 673 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: who are managing the cover up, the ones who wouldn't 674 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: vote for him, the local supervisor of Suffolk County. Yeah, 675 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: all right. So he's like, you know what I need 676 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: to do. I need to start keeping one of my 677 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: thirty five firearms on me at all times because I 678 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: don't know when things are going to pop off. Yeah, 679 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: good idea, right, you see, the ideas are starting the snowball. 680 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: And then he runs into the real trouble that I 681 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. We decided to start hanging out with small 682 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: time criminals. So he finds his local hoods and he's like, 683 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 1: why don't you come live with me in my house 684 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: that my mother not used to show. You don't mind 685 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: my mother's body in the rocket chair upstairs. I wear 686 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: her dress on weekends. But it's cool. So this forty 687 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: two year old hustler named Joseph Massuccelli, he was the 688 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: career criminal of the of the crew. You know, he's 689 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: the one who brought in and he's a very bad criminal. 690 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: He is not good at it. Yeah, Joseph Massucelli was 691 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: described as a tough talking farmer Junkyard employee. I's like, 692 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: what's he like, Well, he's a tough talk of farmer 693 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: yard employee. Now he was also known as you asked 694 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: around people be like, oh, Joe Massacelli, He's a wiry, 695 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: tattooed hot rotter. That was another description locals gave of him. 696 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: The police referred to him as a convicted burglar. That's 697 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: what they called him. Now Ford takes liking to him. 698 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: He's like, Joe, you need to move in with me 699 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: and my mom's you know, whatever vibe that's still in 700 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: the house. It works out that luckily Joe of Massacelli, 701 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: he believes in UFOs, so he doesn't have to convince 702 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: him of the truth. And also he's like, you know, 703 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: the tough talking former Junkyard employees is really like apparently 704 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: good for john Ford's sense of like the familial bonds. 705 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: They become like almost like brotherly. I'm guessing maybe not 706 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe more intimate than that. I don't really know what. 707 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speculate, but they start making they spread, 708 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: sharing home and making a home to hot Pig exactly 709 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: flaming pig brought them together and he keeps them together. 710 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: So this Joe Massacelli, Uh, he becomes the kind of 711 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: like care function for john Ford. Right. He no longer 712 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: cares for his mother, so now he transfers that to Joe. 713 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: He gives Joe a cell phone so you can always 714 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: call him in case, like any of the bad people 715 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: try to grab him off the road or whatever. He 716 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: also gives Joe money and a credit card in his 717 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: own name to use. Then he gives Joe one of 718 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: his guns. Show is probably thinking checkpot. So the powder 719 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: Kega set fuse is all laid out. All we did 720 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: do is is touchdown the radioactive spark and we get 721 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: this thing going. Now. The last piece to fall into 722 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: place is a man named Kevin Cotch. Kevin Cotch, and 723 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: he enters the story as a friend of Joe Massacelli. 724 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: We'll be back after this short break and I'll tell 725 00:39:45,280 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: you how Kevin Cotch turns his whole thing nuclear. Okay, Elizabeth, 726 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: We got john Ford playing house with Joe Massacelli, who's 727 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: given a credit card and a gun too. And now 728 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: Joe massacelis brought around one of his friends, a small 729 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: time criminal, and he's trying to uh, you know, sell 730 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: the gun that he was just given by john Ford 731 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: because he needs to make a little pocket money money. 732 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, Kevin Cotch, why don't you come by 733 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: the house and I'll sell you that gun. So the 734 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: Cotches like, hey, man, you guessed it. He like rolls 735 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: over to the house. And so Massicelli and Ford they 736 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: spend the night hanging out, right, and they're just like, 737 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, just the three of them and uh john 738 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Ford's dogs, right, and they're just like chilling there. And 739 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: now you have to understand the just picture like an 740 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: older woman's house, right, you know, you're gonna have like 741 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: lots of like doily framed photos and everything. So that's 742 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: what that's what I want you to picture. In the backdrop, 743 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 1: will these men describe to each other how they would 744 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: kill the local politicians with ray you active waste. They're 745 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: just sitting in this nice old woman so fun exactly. 746 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: So they just keep talking about how these local politicians 747 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: got to go down, right, and Massa Shelley He's like, yeah, John, 748 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: that's true, man, we should do something about that. Yeah, 749 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: what do we can do? All these knives and guns 750 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: and your model train collection. We can mess them up 751 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: or whatever, right, and Cox getting involved to and he's like, yeah, man, totally, man, 752 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: you got knives, we could do them wrong. He's like no, 753 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: I've got the way. And so then he tells Cock. 754 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, I got this plug for radioactive 755 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: waste goss like what. He immediately goes to the police 756 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: and he's like, I got a story for you. So 757 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: now we have the snitch of the UFO crew. So 758 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: Coach goes he tells the police. He's like, man, there's 759 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: this guy John Ford in your town and he's got 760 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: this plot to assassinate all the local Republican leaders and 761 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: he's planning on using like I don't know, radioactive isotopes 762 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: he was telling me, and I think it was specifically 763 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: something called radium. And they're like are you for real 764 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: right now? Like sir, how high are you? And he's 765 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: like no, I got evidence. Man. They're like, okay, how 766 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: about this? Would you wear a wire to this place 767 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: for people are talking about killing people with a radioactive wastings? 768 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: Like and you batman, because you see, I got this 769 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: bust and maybe you guys could take off the books. 770 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: And so they work at a deal and he's like, okay, 771 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: so he gets a wire and he goes back to 772 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: john Ford's house and then he's gonna walk in and 773 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: that dinghis is gonna be like I have a tricky 774 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: for wires because the sud exactly, because you know he's 775 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: super paranoid. Right, So Joe, Massy Shell and Ford or 776 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: once again hanging out with his three fox terriers, which 777 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention earlier. John Ford has three fox terriers. 778 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: So picture three fox terriers hanging out with these three 779 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: men while they're like, you know, messing up grandma's doilies, 780 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: and the men get to talking. The talk turns first 781 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: from women in sex because you know, small time criminals, 782 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: what are you gonna talk about? And just sitting around 783 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: shooting the ship. They're just sitting around, and they eventually 784 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: go from women and sex to talking about UFOs because 785 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, john Ford's like, you know, we talked about 786 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,959 Speaker 1: the real stuff, and well it's like they used to say, 787 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: sex drugs and rock and roll y, sex drugs and spaceship. 788 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: So and eventually they get from sex drugs, spaceships to 789 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: local politics and they tied it all together, right, and 790 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: Ford it's like, yeah, man, speaking of local politicians, right. 791 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: So they start getting back on him, dreaming aloud about 792 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: how he's gonna do radioactive ways to kill his rivals 793 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: and is like, yeah, man, word tell me more. Go on, son, like, 794 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: go get into some details, right, I'm just envisioning someone 795 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: who looks totally different than what you're sounding like. And 796 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: it's I've seen pictures of them. You're probably pretty correct, 797 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: but them talking like you're talking so good. So good 798 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: Ford lays out his perfect plan to erase all the 799 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: local Republican leadership and then they're like, so man, for 800 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: how are you gonna do it? And he's like, okay, 801 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: see I thought about it. I'm gonna sneak into their 802 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: homes and then I'm gonna poison them with my radioactive waste. 803 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: They're like, man, how you can just poison a radioactive waste? 804 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: He's like, no, see, I told you I thought about it. 805 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sneak it in too things that they will ingest. 806 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: He's like, what do you mean, like it in their water? No, No, 807 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in the toothpaste. How are you 808 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: going to put in There's the whole phrase putting the 809 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: toothpastes exactly, it's impossible. He's like, well, yeah, you may 810 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: have a point there. How about I'll hide it in 811 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: the parmesan cheese. He's like, how about this. I'm gonna 812 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: put it in my mouth and I'm gonna sneak in 813 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put their toes in my mouth while 814 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: they sleep and just soak it in through their toes 815 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: while I suck their toes exactly, saturate underneath the nail bed. 816 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: I found the official files. I just read it. Well. 817 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: He's all convinced that these guys enjoy um as he 818 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: constantly calls them Italian dinners, and he's like, we just 819 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 1: need to get into their Italian dinners and then they'll 820 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: eat it. And so he's thinking, like, you know, I 821 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: got this yellow cake and like, bro, it's not uranium. 822 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I gotta hide it in the parmesan because that's yellow, right, 823 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: that's sprinkle me, sprinkle it, baby, sprinkle. So for it 824 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: starts bragging some more and he's like, yeah, man, see quote, 825 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: I got that very dangerous stuff in the back of 826 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: the truck, Like we could go over right now. He's 827 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: just keeping rad hum in the back of his truck 828 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: as I called him a dinghis Yeah, and so coach 829 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: is like, so, how dangerous is that? And for it's like, no, 830 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: man's cool, man, I got it like in lead, and 831 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: he's like, what do you mean. He's like, and I 832 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: quote it's in a three lead container and it's leaking 833 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: about five rankings per hour because he's to go out 834 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: there and he's taking his like the equipment. Yeah, exactly, 835 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: come over there with the mime counter, the mime detector, 836 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: like NOME is present. It's safe, it's say, we should 837 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: be fine. It's just like in an old Cheetoh's bag 838 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 1: and it's twisted up at the top band yeah yeah, 839 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: real tight though, real tinfoil wrapped around the whole thing. Yes. 840 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: So at this point, according to the police recording of 841 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: the event, someone gets up to make himself a drink. 842 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: So the police here like glink like ice cubes clinking 843 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: around in the glass. And then Ford gets loud again 844 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: and he starts to focusing on his idea for this 845 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: murderous uranium plot, right, and he's actually not uranium radium, 846 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: but anyway, like his radioactive murder lot, and he's like, okay, 847 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: you see guys, this isotope will start glowing in twenty 848 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: four hours. I don't know if he's holding it up. 849 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: And he says this, but she's telling this to these 850 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: two small time criminals, who I imagine are very impressed. 851 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: They're just like, yes, I didn't actually do well in school, 852 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: so this is really interesting. So the men are all 853 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: laughing about the idea of these radioactive daeglo local Republican politicians. 854 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: And then he's like, so like they're like, if you 855 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get it into their food, like say they're delicious 856 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 1: Italian dinners, or into the toothpaste, where might you else 857 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: place this radium? And he's like, well, that's a good point. 858 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: If that didn't work, and I quote, I could put 859 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: it in a bag, take the little bag and put 860 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: it underneath his car seat. So he's gonna just like 861 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: exactly what you said, put in some like Geo's back 862 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: and sham it under the car seat. And then just radium. 863 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: If someone's in your car and they dropped food and 864 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: like French fries under the seat and you kind of 865 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: smell it for a bit. Yeah, he was like, what 866 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: that radium? Is that a radium? No? No? Wait is it? No? 867 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: I think it's brilliant and the radium and they go 868 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: to brush their hands through their hair all silk would 869 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: style like the Meanwhile, Ford, at this point he's just 870 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: crushing it. He's on a roll. Like the police are 871 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: losing it because they're like listening to the wire and 872 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: then you can tell Ford is building up and building up, 873 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: and he's like he's bragging into these small time criminals 874 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: about how he's gonna kill these local politicians with his 875 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 1: radioactive waste. And he's like, man, he starts talking about 876 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: one of them, and the guy's name is Gazola, right, 877 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: So he's like, does Gazola eat Italian food? Take the 878 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: yellow powder and mix it in with chopped garlic, the 879 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: radium in with the chopped garlic, man, And they're like, oh, 880 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: that's genius, man, John old Man, you gotta do that. 881 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, right now. Maybe it was the liquor talking, 882 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. Before it he gets really carried away 883 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: and he STI starts talking about how he'll kill the U. 884 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: S President, the President United States with radioactive material, remember listening. 885 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: So he's like, he tells the snitch and the career 886 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: criminal and I quote, I'll kill that President Clinton. Up, 887 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Yes, he's like good and drunk. Apparently 888 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: pretty much all the cops need to hear what you 889 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: say that you're going to put radioactive waste into the 890 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: rectum of the president, man who is lives basically in 891 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 1: fear of the government coming after him. And he was like, 892 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: come after me, government, Yes, exactly without giant neon sign 893 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: here at this house here, So well, Ford continues to 894 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: muse in all the various ways that he can sneak 895 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: radium into the rivals, tubes of toothpaste or they're Ford 896 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: one fifties. The police move into position yeah with a signal. 897 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: The cops descend like a bear trap, snapping shut. The 898 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: door breaks open, cops rush in. All three men are arrested. Now, 899 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: if you can believe it, this was just the beginning 900 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: of the madness. Yes, so, because there was the question, 901 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: the question that was the most primary importance to the 902 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: cops was the obvious question, where the hell did this 903 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: guy get this radioactive waste? Yeah, that's sitting in his truck. Yeah, 904 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: he's just like driving around on with just like you know, 905 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: it's in the back of my truck. So the next 906 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: day the police officers and a radiation team. They go 907 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: out and they check the house of Edward Zabo. Oh right, 908 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: he works at the Yeah, and so that's how boom 909 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: they found the plug. It was just that easy. Turns 910 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: out Yeah zabos to connect so for his college best friend, 911 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: the defense contractor employee turned part time assassin, he is 912 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: basically was doing it. Remember that Johnny Cash song one 913 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: piece at a time. He's basically doing one piece at 914 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: a time with radioactive ways. So in the song, if 915 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: you don't know what Johnny Cash talks about this guy 916 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: who works at a Cadillac plant and he takes one 917 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: piece every day from home from work and he builds 918 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: himself a Cadillac at home. But that's built over the 919 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: years and it takes him years. So he has like 920 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: one like the front fender will be from his sixties seven, 921 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: the steering wheels from his seventy two. So he's like 922 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: the whole it's a great song, you should listen to it. 923 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: He's zedard Edward Zabo is doing that with radioactive material. 924 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: He's just collecting and he's putting in his like lunch 925 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: box and going home a little bit in building up 926 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: this huge turplus has totally fallen out, but he's just glowing. Yeah, 927 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: he's a flaming pick so hot. So the police, mind you, 928 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: they just go, you know what, I pet he may 929 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: have some other stuff here other than like you know, 930 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: mime detectors and so forth. They check and they find 931 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: all the makings for a dirty bomb. There are blasting caps, fuses, detonators, 932 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: and of course all the aforementioned radioactive waste. So he 933 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: gets arrested for a legal possession of weapons and explosives 934 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: and the radioactive waste that he stole from work. Now 935 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: ready for the glowing mistake in Ford's plan, Yes, his 936 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: plan to kill these people, radium would have taken forever. 937 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: He would He would have likely died before his targets 938 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: died from the radiation poison. According to nuclear experts, if 939 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: Ford had gone through this planet tried to kill them, 940 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: even if he had to put it in their toothpaste 941 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: during their Italian dinners, it would have taken about twenty 942 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: years for them to die. That's like if you wanted 943 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: to kill someone, you planted a seed, you watered, the tree, 944 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: you grew through, you really tall. It's a wait for 945 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: a time to get them right, underneath and you cut 946 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: it down. I mean, he's the dumbest assessination plot I've ever. 947 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: It didn't sound like a brain trust over at that place. Yeah, exactly. 948 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,479 Speaker 1: It's it's basically, if you're going to be using radioactive waste, 949 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: radium is not the one you want to get something 950 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: with a higher count. So just put that in mind now. 951 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: Of course the police were a little bit more worried. 952 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: They were not with the nuclear experts. They're like, this 953 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: could have given everybody radiation sickness in ten days, and 954 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: they're like freaking out about it, so they took a 955 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: slightly different tech. I like a freak out. I know 956 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: you do, so forward. Meanwhile, he gets arrested, and he 957 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: takes the time to write a hundred and two page 958 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: manifesto because you know, of course he does. That's what 959 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: does get arrested to write the manifesto, because you know 960 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: he's got his You have Long Island, you a phone 961 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: network to think of as a president and a leader 962 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: of men. I'm excited to find out to whom he 963 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: sent this manifesto, Well, I got one for you. He 964 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: didn't send it to any buddy, per se. He writes 965 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: it and then he tries to distribute it. He basically 966 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: tries to get it to his people and go get 967 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: this out to everybody, kind of like the videotape. He's 968 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: not like the UNI bomber's going to send it to 969 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. He just writes his manifesto, and he 970 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: accuses the local Republican political machine of covering up for 971 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: the Brookhaven UFO conspiracy in using forest fires to cover 972 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: their tracks in coordination with the US military. He also 973 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: accuses them Brookhaven and the U S military and the 974 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: local political leadership of trying to eliminate him. He then 975 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: lays out in the rest of the manifesto all the 976 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: reasons why they'd want to kill him, and he mentions, 977 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 1: for instance, that he is a secret spy for the CIA. 978 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: It has been since he was nineteen years old. Yeah, 979 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. Yes. He had one problem with this. 980 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: He couldn't prove it because he had never been paid 981 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: by the CIA. He had no receipts that he had 982 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: ever been given a paycheck. It doesn't work that way, 983 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: your brain. He was doing pro bono spy work. He 984 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: was volt here, I get paid by X files episodes. 985 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: That's my pay So Ford has been this key target 986 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: of the KGB. Also, I meant forgot to mention that 987 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, but if you don't know, the KGB 988 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: was the intelligence agency, the equivalent of the CIA for 989 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, and apparently they tried to kill him 990 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: five times, five times he survived every time. Yeah, this 991 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: guy not only that, he saved President Reagan's life. Why 992 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: am I not supprised? Of course? Now how did he 993 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: do this? He stopped a KGB agent from joining the 994 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: Reagan for President committee before he was president. Oh my god, 995 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: local politics and it's just some guy with like a 996 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: Polish last name and he thinks it's a Russian last 997 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: name who wants to get on there and he bullies 998 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: him out of the out of like the Elks Lodge 999 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: hall when they're having their meeting, all loud go back 1000 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 1: to Rosca. So also, of course, because it's the ninetc. 1001 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: Also had thoughts about AIDS and where AIDS came from. 1002 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: So he was like, you know that AID stuff and 1003 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:06,919 Speaker 1: andy Bola, they were both manufactured by what's your guess, Russia, aliens? Aliens. Yeah, 1004 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: I forgot about the Aliens were using AIDS in Ebola 1005 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: to depopulate sub Saharan Africa, very X files. It just 1006 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: makes so much sense exactly. He also claimed that there 1007 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: was lots of evidence that the U. S. Government had 1008 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: of these aliens, including the fact that President Nixon and 1009 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: Jackie Gleason had both seen the aliens. Remember that, Storry, 1010 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm not the only Kukola story. So if you want 1011 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: to hear that ridiculous history did a double episode, I 1012 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: tell that story. Back to his manifesto, Ford claimed to 1013 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: his hustler and friend and roommate Joe Massa Shelley. He 1014 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: claims that dude in his manifesto, mind you, he says 1015 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 1: Joe was also a spy. He was. Can you guess 1016 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: where from Joe's of spine, Joe Massacelli, where Israeli intelligence? 1017 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: He's from the massag of course, he just looks Italian. 1018 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: So Joseph Mats Shelley was apparently a cover name. Oh yeah, yeah. 1019 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: Things start to unravel and Zabo was like, oh man, 1020 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: he washes his hands of this when he sees the 1021 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: manifesto immediately, Oh yeah, he exactly, They're glowing and he's 1022 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 1: like He's like, I plead guilty. So he pleads guilty 1023 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: as fast as he can for him. He's also promises 1024 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: to testify against Ford. He's like, look, I will tell 1025 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: you whatever you want to know. They put him on 1026 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: house arrestor like okay, don't go to work, and he's 1027 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: like cool, that's fine. I'll just hang out here with 1028 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,720 Speaker 1: my toys, and they're like cool now, Joe Massi Shelley, 1029 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: the alleged Israeli spy. He pleads guilty. He also goes, 1030 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: I will testify against John Ford. The guy has barely 1031 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: known him. Everybody's flipping. He totally flips. Ford is looking 1032 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: at seventy five years for his radioactive assassination plot, but 1033 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: he decides he's got one last gambit. He's going to 1034 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: flip on the aliens. That would be amazing. Though. He's like, 1035 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to turn state's s evidence against 1036 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: z boor seven. He tries to turn state's evidence against himself. 1037 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you the truth on John Ford. Now. 1038 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: While he's on like you know, waiting for trial, he 1039 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: gets locked up in a prison mental health hospital because 1040 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: they don't want to put him in regular jail because 1041 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: clearly not like you know, hinged and uh, he's off 1042 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: campus at this point, fully off campus and yeah, he 1043 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: says that this is all according to his plan, right 1044 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: he and I quote he says, the court says, I'm 1045 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: not competent based upon these statements? Are they ravings of 1046 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: a madman or the writings of a perfect and master spy. 1047 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: He alleges that his manifesto is proof of his brilliance 1048 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: because it makes him look crazy and the truth is 1049 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: in there. Also, He's like, look, I told the truth 1050 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: and it makes me look crazy. Who's not the master spy? 1051 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god? So do you know he critiqued the 1052 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: bailiff in the court. He's like watching him. He's like 1053 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 1: looking at slouches. So what do you think, raving madman 1054 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: or perfect masters? Why not both? Who? I like that? 1055 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: Look at you? Broad minded? Well? One of the crew. 1056 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: He's one of his crew, the KG veteran investigator, remember him, 1057 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: Preston Nichols with the school bus and the mind detector. 1058 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: He said, have his old friend Ford quote, he's as 1059 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: loony as they come, but he's a coherent loon. So 1060 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: the time traveler says he's crazy. I'm not buying the 1061 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: coherent part. But now apparently he says, he's you know, 1062 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: following a basically a will get to see and be 1063 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: willing be in between. He's like, that's coherence. I'm like, okay, bro, Now, 1064 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: john Ford maybe crazy. We don't know. He may not be. 1065 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm just willing to keep that open option. Maybe he 1066 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: is a master spy tricking us all. Let's just pretend 1067 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: right now now. If he is playing crazy to avoid 1068 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: a life in prison, that is brilliant, right. So whatever, now, 1069 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: no matter what, Ford still expects to get out of 1070 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: this hospital one day. He's still alive. He's still locked 1071 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: up in a mental health hospital, and he will, once 1072 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: he gets out, reveal the truth of the alien is 1073 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: living amongst us, or, as Ford put it in a 1074 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: letter to his loyal right hand man, do you I 1075 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: have arone quote, I'll bring home the bacon for everyone. 1076 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: Then we'll rebuild the Long Island ufone network and destroy 1077 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: the cover up. And what did he write in closing 1078 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: of his manifesto, The truth is out there. Yes, it's 1079 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: a ridiculous takeaway here. The ridiculous takeaway is that I 1080 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: would like to go to an event put on by 1081 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: the Long Island unifone network outfit. Yeah, and I would 1082 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: really like to try out my bulling thing after a 1083 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: presentation there and then get poisoned and killed. I think 1084 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: my takeaway is, again, like I said, if you really 1085 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: believe this stuff, it has to be so frustrating and 1086 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: terrifying to think that you know something a PC and 1087 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: everyone's just like, no, you're you're crazy. Um, especially if 1088 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: it's something that you think, well, we're under attack by aliens. 1089 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that would be a dire thing. If 1090 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: it were true. You would hope people would do what 1091 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: he's doing. And I think too that it's also you've 1092 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: got to be pretty ticked off if you're just a 1093 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: UFO person, like a person who is curious about UFOs 1094 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: or believes in it. And you know there are like 1095 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: all like the Air Force and military sightings and stuff. Right, 1096 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: I've got a friend who's a big time so they're 1097 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: like legitimate things that you can be talking about. But 1098 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: then it's like they get tainted by these goofballs who 1099 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: are yeah, it's like Jesus and that a lot of 1100 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: people mean well, And then you have other people who 1101 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,439 Speaker 1: use it for weird stuff and you have a hard 1102 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: time deciding which is this person who's telling me this 1103 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: new story about Jesus or aliens are they meaning well 1104 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: or are they just like completely in the beroom powerful 1105 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: or mysterious thing is going to also elicit those who 1106 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: are having some troubles on their own, and then it 1107 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: seeps into it. So I mean, you haven't trouble parsing reality, 1108 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Aliens and Jesus can be real hard to make sense. 1109 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: So my ridiculous takeaway, thanks for asking the fact that 1110 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: my friends apparently don't try hard. Enough of them have 1111 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: ever come to me with an assassination plot for our 1112 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: local political leaders? Do we could get some radioactive monkeys 1113 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: because and Davis they got these radio actually radio active 1114 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: beats and dig them dogs up and we could do 1115 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: some damage. But no, none of them have come to 1116 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: me with this. You guys are letting me down. 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