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Speaker 1: We're gonna be checking in with Jay Sekulo. He is

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Speaker 1: the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.

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Speaker 1: President Tom Fitton on judicial watches, also filing a new

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Speaker 1: contest circuit. Give us a clear sense of what you need.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get it. How much money

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Speaker 1: life and a big impact on her daughter if she

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Speaker 1: did not proceed with her public statement as she had planned.

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Speaker 1: Woman's in a hospital bed, she is in no condition

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Speaker 1: for visitors, The friend texted back to Lisa Bloom, quote,

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Speaker 1: if you care about her, you need to leave her

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Speaker 1: be until after she's feeling better, the friend said in

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Speaker 1: another text. Well Bloom's response to that, no, she hopped

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Speaker 1: on an airplane from California to go see the woman

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Speaker 1: in Virginia in the East Coast, according to text messages

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Speaker 1: and interviews now, the next day, the woman finally reconnected

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Speaker 1: with Bloom now we're three days out of the election,

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Speaker 1: and informed her she would not move forward with making

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Speaker 1: the allegations public. Bloom reacted to this in a string

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Speaker 1: of text messages after getting the news that she wasn't

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00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna move forward quote, I'm confused. He sent me so

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Speaker 1: many nice text Wednesday night after my other client wasted

446
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: so much of my time and canceled the press conference.

447
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: So now Bloom is obviously frustrated. Bloom obviously as an agenda,

448
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: she didn't want Donald Trump to win. Bloom texted November five,

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Speaker 1: Now this is three days out of the election. That

450
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. There's that you said you

451
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do this if you could be protected and relocated.

452
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: I begged you not to jerk me around after what

453
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Speaker 1: I had just gone through. So one other person had

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Speaker 1: pulled out and said no, they didn't want to do it,

455
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Speaker 1: And now she thinks this person is being put You know,

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Speaker 1: she was told not to come, but she came anyway

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Speaker 1: to the East coast. And now it's getting pretty contentious.

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Speaker 1: You can see tensions rising as the election day gets closer. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: a little later, she added another text, you have treated

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Speaker 1: me very poorly. I have treated you with great respect,

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Speaker 1: as much as humanly possible I have not made a

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Speaker 1: dime off your case, and I have devoted a great

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Speaker 1: deal of time. Doesn't matter. I could have done so

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Speaker 1: much for you, but you can't stick to your word

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Speaker 1: even when you swear you will. Well, can we slow

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Speaker 1: down here a second? Maybe there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: good reasons the woman doesn't want to tell her story.

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00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound That sounds like really putting the hammer,

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Speaker 1: a guilt trip, and and pressure on this woman to

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Speaker 1: do something that she's not inclined to do. Shouldn't it

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Speaker 1: be the woman's choice. Shouldn't it be up to them?

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't they? Is it wrong? You know? Does it make

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Speaker 1: a difference if you're offering bigger and bigger? It starts

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Speaker 1: at ten, then it's fifty, Then it's two hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars now maybe more in and maybe a new house

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Speaker 1: and relocation or whatever the relocation protection means, and it

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Speaker 1: goes on. After the woman was released from the hospital,

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Speaker 1: all right, two days out of the election November six,

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Speaker 1: they agreed to meet at a hotel room, just two

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Speaker 1: days before Donald Trump's unexpected victory over Hillary. It's at

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Speaker 1: that meeting, this woman tells The Hill in an interview.

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Speaker 1: This hotel encounter. At Lisa Bloom increased the offer of

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Speaker 1: donations to her to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: but she still declined to take the money. The woman

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Speaker 1: texted Bloom that day that she didn't mean to let

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Speaker 1: her lawyer down. You didn't let me down, Bloom, rope back.

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Speaker 1: You came and spoke to me and made the decision.

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Speaker 1: That's right for you. That's all I wanted, all right.

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Speaker 1: So she obviously had calmed down by then. Elisa Bloom

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Speaker 1: confirmed to the Hill that she flew to Virginia to

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Speaker 1: meet with the woman after she had changed her mind

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Speaker 1: several times about whether to go public and the accusations, etcetera, etcetera.

493
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Editor to meet with us at a hotel room, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Bloom said the donor money was never intended to entice

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Speaker 1: women to come forward against their will. Nothing can be

496
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Speaker 1: further from the truth. Now, some photos asked for photo

497
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Speaker 1: licensing feast. By the way, the photo licensing thing is

498
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: a scam that networks used to pay people to give

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Speaker 1: their stories. It just is That's how I see it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Hearth and the woman who decided not to go public

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Speaker 1: said they never gave They were never given any names

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Speaker 1: of the donors. But Bloom told the woman who declined

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Speaker 1: to come forward that she had reached out to political

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Speaker 1: Action committee supporting Clinton. It was my understanding that there's

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Speaker 1: some Clinton super pac money that could help out if

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Speaker 1: we did move forward, the woman wrote Bloom on October eleven.

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00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: If we help the Clinton campaign, they in turn could

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Speaker 1: help or compensate us. Bloom rope back. Let's please do

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Speaker 1: a call. I've already reached out to a Clinton superpack

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Speaker 1: and they're not paying. I can get you pay aid

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Speaker 1: for some interviews. However, now this is the problem. There

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Speaker 1: is Look, I'll let others go to the ethics of

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Speaker 1: all this. There is the reason. Historically these tabloids that

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Speaker 1: pay for stories are not viewed as credible as real

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00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: news organizations that don't take money. You see the intensity

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Speaker 1: the desire to get this woman. It starts at ten grand,

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Speaker 1: it ends as seven and fifty thousand dollars, talk of

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Speaker 1: security and talk of relocation, then talk of assistant. You know,

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00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: how are we? And you see the feverish pace it

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Speaker 1: takes as we get closer to the election. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: say the woman did come out two days before the election.

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Speaker 1: Would anybody know that that woman was paid seven dollars

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Speaker 1: if she had done that? No, because the media never

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Speaker 1: asked that question. All it would do is using it's

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Speaker 1: a political agenda, obviously to influence an election. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's like the fix was in with Bernie Sanders. The

527
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: fix was in as it relates to Hillary Clinton and

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Speaker 1: the email server investigation. And what we're seeing here is

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Speaker 1: a level of of unethical behavior and by any means necessary,

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Speaker 1: What is this going to do to real victims of harassment?

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Speaker 1: What is it gonna do in their case? And if

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: you're incentivizing somebody with money, you know, and you're not true.

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00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: They're not vetting those stories. They just say tell the truth. Well,

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00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: they don't know if it's true or not. They just

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Speaker 1: want the political hit on whoever they're going after. All right,

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Speaker 1: John Solomon, who wrote this article, joins us next quick break.

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Speaker 1: John Solomon's next I'm not feeling it. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I knew all laughing at there. All right, we have

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Speaker 1: John Solomon on his exclusive report, UH, prominent attorneys seeking

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Speaker 1: donor cash to pay women involved in these accusations against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I don't see any coverage on the news

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Speaker 1: today on this do you. I don't see anything on

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Speaker 1: any of the networks. We'll do it on Hannity tonight

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00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and we got Jays Secular stopping by today and Sydney

545
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Powell and Tom Fitton will continue the job the media

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Speaker 1: will never do. That's telling you the truth. Next our

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Speaker 1: s Sean Hannity Show, Glandier with US eight one. Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, Big blockbuster.

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Speaker 1: It is on the Drudge Report right now. It is

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Speaker 1: eight what pages long? The headline exclusive prominent lawyers sought

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Speaker 1: donor cash for Trump accusers. Now everyone's heard of Lisa Bloom.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen her on television and a lot

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Speaker 1: and with some women making accusations again against men. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So a series apparently of text messages have emerged and

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Speaker 1: the Hills John Solomon got ahold of all of these,

556
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Speaker 1: and I'll let him tell the story and take it

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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: from there. But um, it raises a lot of questions

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00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: when people are being offered money to quote tell their stories,

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Speaker 1: and where that money comes from, and is their politics involved?

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00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: And at what point do we reach it an ethical

561
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: tipping point that this is you know, just not the

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00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: right way for people to tell stories, because what is

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Speaker 1: it doing in the case of raising doubts in the

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Speaker 1: minds of individuals or maybe credible people that want to

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Speaker 1: make accusations and tell their stories. What impact does this

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Speaker 1: all have? John Solomon is with us, John, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Son, Thanks for having me out. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. Let's talk about this because

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Speaker 1: these are women that were basically being paid to make

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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct allegations against the president. They certainly were being

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Speaker 1: offered money. Whether the money was specifically to make the allegation, Uh,

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Speaker 1: is you know, for other people to make a decision

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Speaker 1: of But there is not any doubt that Lisa Bloom,

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Speaker 1: the daughter of Gloria Alred, arranged for donors to do

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Speaker 1: the following things. Uh. Set up a go fund Me

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Speaker 1: site for one of the accusers, Jill Harth, who came

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Speaker 1: public pay off the mortgage of Jill Hart and I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people would love to have their

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Speaker 1: mortgage faith off on your show, I'm sure um. And

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Speaker 1: then engage in a long running conversation with a woman

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Speaker 1: who was contemplating coming forward but wasn't sure she was

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Speaker 1: still a supporter of Trump, UH, and they wanted her

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Speaker 1: to come forward, and they began by offering her ten

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Speaker 1: thousand to her church and fifty thousand for her personal pocket,

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: then a hundred thousand for a personal pocket, two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand for a personal pocket, and on the final few

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Speaker 1: days before the election appeared, they upped the anti to

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. This is Lisa Bloom

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Speaker 1: talking to the woman, trying to get her to come out.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the text messages, there's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of raw, very UH never intended for public discussion.

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Speaker 1: That I can sell your story for ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I have donors lined up. I've talked to

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Speaker 1: the Clinton super PACs. There's politics, there's finances, there's money. UH.

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Speaker 1: And then there's one other interesting thing. Lisa Bloom instructs

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Speaker 1: the woman who's thinking of coming forward to UH change

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Speaker 1: her Facebook page in a race her posts supporting Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump because she feared feared that the woman supported Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump would make her accusation less believable. And I think

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Speaker 1: people will weigh all that and say, is that what

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Speaker 1: attorneys do? And UH? And then what's in it for

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Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom will ask that question, and the answer is

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Speaker 1: she made these women sign a contract that required them

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Speaker 1: to pay thirty three percent commission on anything they sold

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Speaker 1: to the Table at TV program. So that's what the

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Speaker 1: text messages show. And Lisa Bloom confirms there's not any

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Speaker 1: uh at LESA. Bloom confirms that she did these things.

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Speaker 1: So let me let me go through the process. Here

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Speaker 1: is it that she hears that these women may have

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Speaker 1: some information and then goes discusses and and wasn't a

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Speaker 1: woman's mortgage paid off as part of the deal? Right? Yea?

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Speaker 1: That was the first thing, one first transaction. So there's

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Speaker 1: a woman named Joe Hart. She was an unwilling accuser

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Speaker 1: at the beginning. She didn't want to come out originally,

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Speaker 1: but the news media found her lawsuit against Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, twenty years ago, and they published

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Speaker 1: him and then she sort of got forced into the limelight.

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Speaker 1: And as the attention grew, uh, somebody suggested that Joe

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Speaker 1: Hart reach out to Lisa Bloom and get her as

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Speaker 1: a lawyer. She comes on as a lawyer. What we

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Speaker 1: know in that relationship is early on they sold some

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Speaker 1: photos for some money, some Donald Trump Joe Hart photos.

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Speaker 1: Then Joe Hart is trying to get other people to

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Speaker 1: come out to support her story. She reaches out to

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Speaker 1: a woman who's very pro Trump, very uh supports the President,

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00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: doesn't think he did anything wrong to her per se,

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Speaker 1: but is going to come forward with a story to

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Speaker 1: story of unfulicited advance and uh Joe Hart introduced the

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Speaker 1: sabloom to her. Lisa Bloom sends her a contract with

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Speaker 1: the with the uh terms of the thirty commission. And

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Speaker 1: then this woman uh starts to way, do I come forward?

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Speaker 1: Do I not come forward? And that's when the offers

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Speaker 1: of money start to be got bantied back and about

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Speaker 1: and forth, and it grows from ten thousand and fifty.

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Speaker 1: Then out of the blue, uh, Joe Hart has a

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Speaker 1: go fund me page. Shut up. Now when Joe Harsh started,

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Speaker 1: there's no talk of money. Now Jill Heart has a

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Speaker 1: go fund me page, online fundraising page shut up for

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Speaker 1: her by the by Lisa Bloom, the attorney. And then

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Speaker 1: when that doesn't raise a lot of money, Lisa Bloom

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Speaker 1: goes out and arranges a donor to come in and

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Speaker 1: write a check. We believe it's under thirty thou dollars

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Speaker 1: but still a lot of money, and to pay off

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Speaker 1: Jill Harp's mortgage, and that's not in dispute. Everybody, including

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Speaker 1: Jill Hart acknowledges that. And in the days leading up

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Speaker 1: to the election, as things will closer, you know the

647
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: bunny one as high as seven dollars, that would be

648
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: like a almost You're almost paying somebody at the most

649
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: sensitive moment in a career in a campaign to say

650
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Speaker 1: something that's so blockbuster that I don't know if any

651
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: candidate can recover. And you talked in the piece about

652
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Speaker 1: maybe some of this money coming from a political action

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00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: committee tied to Hillary. Yeah. In fact, one of the

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: women is recounting their conversations in a text message saying, Hey,

655
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: we talked about helping out Hillary Clinton in the Clinton

656
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: super pac and you see, even get me some money

657
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: from the Clinton superpack. And then Lisa writes back, I've

658
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: already talked to the superpacks. They're not paying right now,

659
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: but I can sell your story for sure. And uh,

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00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: and not paying right now? Does that suggest that Clinton

661
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: superPAC money was being used to pay women to tell stories?

662
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know. What we will say,

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: is that Lisa Bloom will not answer the question and

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Speaker 1: whether she had contact with the Clinton superPAC. She will

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00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: not identify the donors who um ultimately came up with

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00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: the money for the seven and fifty thou dollar offer,

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00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: which by the way, he was never paid because the

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00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: woman didn't go forward, but or who paid for the

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00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: uh for the donation that paid off the mortgage. So

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: she's not talking about those two things. We talked to

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Speaker 1: one of the super facts who say it wasn't us,

672
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of them, and of course

673
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: they could have gone and just talked to individual donors.

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Speaker 1: I think the most important thing you you see in

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00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: these text messages, the election is chronically cited as a deadline.

676
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: We gotta get this time before the election. There's twenty

677
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: one days left the election, of twenty seven days left

678
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the election. There's only a little bit more time. And

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00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: one of the women, the women, one of the women,

680
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: the woman who did not ultimately decide to come forward.

681
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: It gets mad at one point, saying why does there

682
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: have to be a deadline? Is this just about hurting

683
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: Trump for the election, or is this is about me

684
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: and my my personal issues? And I think when people

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00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: read through the full very long story. A lot of

686
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: text messages in there. They'll see something very interesting. They

687
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: will see a lawyer who's representing these women actually attack

688
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: the woman. One woman who um uh didn't come forward.

689
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: She was going to come forward to have a press

690
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: conference and lead she was sexually assaulted when she was

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. When she doesn't do that, Lisa Bloom

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Speaker 1: rites to another woman, she wasted my time. What does

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00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: that mean? Wasted my time if you're trying to help

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00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: the woman Another woman who decided not to come forward.

695
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: The text message says, I told you, don't jerk me around.

696
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: And you can see that there's this pressure and it's

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00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: almost personal for Lisa Bloom that these women won't come

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00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: out like she wants him to do. And I think

699
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people will look at this and ask,

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00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, who's the client here and and what did

701
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: these text most just say about the nature of the

702
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: representation and uh, you know, is it is it appropriate

703
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: to have be having political money discussions? So I read

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: your I read your piece, and it's obvious, all right,

705
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: she's she is a pretty radical left person hates Donald Trump.

706
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: It's very clear in the text messages here. But this,

707
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: this is very key to the entire story here is

708
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: is a political motivation to get stories out, especially in

709
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: the critical days leading up to an election, for the

710
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: very purpose of derailing Donald Trump's campaign, and then there's

711
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: money associated with it. All. I think that that one

712
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: particular individual that said why is why? Is this really

713
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: about getting Trump? Or is it about me? I think

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00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: speaks volumes here. Um. I don't have a problem that

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00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom and her mother are, you know, prefer Hillary Clinton.

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00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with their politics over the years.

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00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: I've had many debates with Gloria Allread. I do have

718
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: a problem with you know, is there any evidence that

719
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: they want to check the stories, check the veracity, do

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00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: the research, get the background of these stories, or is

721
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: it just as long as they say it, it's okay?

722
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: And what what do you need to get this done?

723
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Speaker 1: What do we need to get this to come out?

724
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't I didn't notice in any of

725
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Speaker 1: the text messages I saw in your piece that said, Okay,

726
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I really need to know what you're telling me is true? Right?

727
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: I will say this. All the women I talked to

728
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: stated that they were asked only to make truthful statements,

729
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: so No one asked them to lie or make up

730
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: a story. They're very clear about that. But that's very

731
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: different than actually vetting the story for the purpose of

732
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: the the Bloom. Uh. There are text messages and the

733
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Speaker 1: email showing that Bloom was looking to get corroborating witnesses

734
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Speaker 1: to come forward to corroborate these women's stories. Did you

735
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: tell people contemporary and you see it. In fact, one

736
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: of the women who decided not to come forward did

737
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: provide some corroborating witnesses. They were contemplating paying one of

738
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: the corroborating witnesses money too. Money was going to change

739
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: hand if that second corroborating witness would come forward. So Uh,

740
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: there was an effort of due diligence. There was. The

741
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: women claimed they weren't being forced to make up a story,

742
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: but there is not. There's very little doubt from the

743
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: text messages that there was this pressure, there was a

744
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: political deadline the election, and that there are donors that

745
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: most likely had a political interest in the outcome of

746
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: these women coming out making the donations. Since the sky

747
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: is about donors and superpacts, and I think those are

748
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: the issues that trouble people. The people I've talked to

749
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: lawyers who know about ethics and lawyers who know about

750
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: election law. Was this an election operation or was this

751
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: really a sincere effort to help the women? And I

752
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: think people will look at the evidence and come up

753
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: to their own conclusions. Yeah. Well, and and that's how

754
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: you write pieces. I mean, that's why you were with

755
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the a P for twenty years and and this is

756
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: the type of you know, real reporting. I think that

757
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: needs to be done. I will take a quick break

758
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: John Solomon's big blockbuster piece and the hail we'll get

759
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: back to more of the details, will get reaction to

760
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: from d c uh McAllister is going to join us

761
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: on the program, and then in the next hour we

762
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: got Jay Sekulo, Sydney Powell, and Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.

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Speaker 1: As we continue and asn't continue, John Solomon as brand

764
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: new piece out today, prominent lawyers seeking cash donor cash

765
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: to make for women that are gonna make accusations against

766
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. An unbelievable story when you look at it

767
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: on its surface, it's like, all right, let's try and

768
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: take this that guy down any way we can. And

769
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: if you need money, that's going to incentivize you to

770
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: tell your story. Uh, here, how much do you need?

771
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: She's even asking people what do you need? And then

772
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: and as we get closer to the election, well, then

773
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: the need well, you know, the offers get higher. I

774
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: think it started in a ten thousand, then a hundred thousand,

775
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: and then as high as seven and fifty thou dollars,

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00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, three or four days before the election. Because

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00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: everybody that follows elections knows that if somebody comes out

778
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: and makes an allegation against the president or a candidate

779
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: four days before the election, there's not a lot of time,

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00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: if at all, to recover from that. That's right, that's right.

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00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a there's a great anecdote in there,

782
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: sean that shows the level of pressure. The woman that

783
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: was going back and forth ultimately did not go forward

784
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: with her story. Uh, ends up in the hospital three

785
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: or four days before the election, and Lisa Bloom is

786
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: frantically trying to get her to return the course. He's

787
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: to an I V very sick in the hospital. Her

788
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: friend writes her back, leave her alone, if you care

789
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: about it, let her get better first. And Lisa Bloom

790
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: comes all the way across the country from California, lands

791
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: in the East Coast to try to meet this woman

792
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: as soon as she gets out of the hospital and um,

793
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: and she's when the woman finally contacts if she gets

794
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: released in the hospital, and she says this, I've just

795
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: decided I'm not going to do it. You can see

796
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom's frustration. She first attacks an earlier woman in

797
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: the text message, saying she wasted my time by not

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00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: coming out against Donald Trump. I don't know a lawyer

799
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: trying to help a woman to make a very important

800
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: legal decision, whether it's a waste of time just because

801
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: she chose not to. Then she then she says to

802
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the other woman, you can't keep your word even when

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00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: you swear to. And she scolds her and she and

804
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: she says, um, trying to remember the exact very caustic language,

805
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: I told you, don't jerk me around. And you see

806
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: this frustration that you don't normally see between a lawyer

807
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: and a client, when when the client's wishes or what

808
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: are supposed to be preeminent. And I think people will

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00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: look at those text messages and say, wow, this is

810
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. You fly across the country, set

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Speaker 1: up a hotel room, hoping she'll come out of the

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00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: hospital come back to see you. I think those are

813
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: some of the things that you know, jumped out to

814
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: the people. I've talked to the lord. But that story

815
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I mean, you know, the woman's in the

816
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: hospital and and somebody is saying, she can't talk to you.

817
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: She's kind of incapacitated at the moment, and she's being

818
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: taken care of and our health should come first. And

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00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom flew, I guess you said the state or

820
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Virginia, and flew there and and got

821
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: frustrated even more. Yep. And there's even a moment where

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Speaker 1: the friend you know sends a picture of the woman

823
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: just with her I d in the arm and not

824
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: so and Lisa Bloom says, I want a face picture

825
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: to show she's really an hospital, and then they have

826
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Speaker 1: to go take a picture of the woman like like

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Speaker 1: she didn't believe the one was in the hospital. The

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Speaker 1: very unusual exchange, and it shows an awful lot of

829
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: pressure built around the approaching election. You know, people will

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00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: make up their own mind. My job was not to

831
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: make any conclusions, but to put all these facts out

832
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: there to verify them. We we validated and verified every

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00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: text message and uh, we went through all she acknowledged them.

834
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Speaker 1: I mean, so there's no issues there. She did, Uh,

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Speaker 1: and she acknowledges she said, I did try to get

836
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Speaker 1: six figures in donations for the woman. What did you

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00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: think of the the the excuse in the statement that

838
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: she put out there about about her role in this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I know for a fact, numerous times

840
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: I can I'll find the tape and play it on

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00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: TV tonight. Didn't she say I'm doing this pro bono.

842
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like pro bono if you're getting a

843
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: third and you're getting money associated with it. And I'll

844
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: tell you the other bigger question is you know what

845
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: role would any Clinton superpack have and is that in

846
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: any way of violation of campaign ethics? There could be

847
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: some campaign laws this, I mean someone when we're talking

848
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: to legal actors to try to understand if there was

849
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: any election activity that this would be governed by since

850
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: the election clearly was being mentioned and it's obvious that

851
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: it was a deadline and connection for these donors. Alright,

852
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: quick break, right back, We'll continue more on this explosive story.

853
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Lawyers seeking donor cash to pay Trump accusers. Unbelievable. And

854
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: then in the next hour we got Jay Sekulo, Sydney Powell,

855
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: and Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch. As we continue till

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour, we continue John Solomon's break

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Speaker 1: through column today, Lisa Bloom, prominent lawyer, daughter of Gloria Alread,

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Speaker 1: sought donor cash to pay those that would be accusing

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump of some type of sexual misconduct. This story

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Speaker 1: is massive. We continue with John Solomon. All right, John,

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Speaker 1: can you elaborate just a little more for my audience

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00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: here on that there's a there's a great message about

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Speaker 1: the right. It is true that she doesn't charge him

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Speaker 1: or doesn't charge much for the legal representation, but then

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Speaker 1: the legal representation is really just focused on one thing

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Speaker 1: according to the contract, and that is, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: you in front of media. And it says the contract

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Speaker 1: for uh, the woman who didn't come forward but signed

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Speaker 1: the contract, it says, you're gonna pay met. And the

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Speaker 1: first time she uh, the woman who doesn't come forward,

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Speaker 1: but the first time she's engaged by Bloom, Bloom says something.

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Speaker 1: Third fact, I can get you on these tabloid TVs,

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Speaker 1: and I think I can get you ten to fifteen

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00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollars minus my one third commission she makes. He

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00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: makes it really clear, I'm getting my cut if I

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Speaker 1: do this. Uh, you'll see those in the text messages,

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Speaker 1: and there's not you know, there's no doubt there was

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Speaker 1: a financial component to this. There's no doubt that there's

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00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: a political component to this. That doesn't mean that the

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Speaker 1: women uh didn't have their own stories that they wanted

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Speaker 1: to tell, that they didn't have legitimate concerns. But I

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00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: think we write these stories every day as journalists at

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Speaker 1: new tuser comes out it's black and white, and what

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Speaker 1: these text show is that there's a very complex picture

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Speaker 1: involved here. There are people hovering around them. They might

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Speaker 1: have a political or financial interest. These women have a

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Speaker 1: lot of concerns such as safety for themselves or do

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00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: I want my children to know about my past and

889
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: those sort of things, And these sexual harassment sexual assault

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Speaker 1: stories are much more complicated than the way they're often

891
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: boiled down in the news meeting. I think these text

892
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: mixes is really give us a very clear picture of that.

893
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely read this article and I am stunned. And

894
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Speaker 1: I don't get stunned very often. I am shocked now well,

895
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: I know how Look, politics is a blood dirty sport.

896
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: It just is. And you know, looking at this and

897
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Speaker 1: thinking of what if three or four days, seven fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars is passed three or four days before an election,

899
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Speaker 1: what impact that would have on an election? It is

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to me, is mind numbing. And

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Speaker 1: you've got to wonder what it's going to do to

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Speaker 1: people that are real victims of some type of harassment,

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Speaker 1: if they're if they're being incentivized with cash or political

904
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Speaker 1: motivations involved in this and kind of being worked over

905
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: a little bit by by people that have different agendas.

906
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Speaker 1: It's it's a little chilling and a little frightening to

907
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Speaker 1: think this is going on behind the scenes that could

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Speaker 1: have major impacts on how people feel about candidates. So

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Speaker 1: it's a really great question. So you said something really

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Speaker 1: really profound that I think came up and talking to

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Speaker 1: some of these women that I talked to, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these women had very personal reasons not to be

913
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Speaker 1: thrust into the media line my very very serious issues

914
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: of related to family health safety, unrelated to anything involved

915
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Speaker 1: any election or the president or anything else. And it's

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00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: a really uh, it raises a great question when someone

917
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Speaker 1: tries to use money to try to overcome those concerns.

918
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Can I can I take enough money? Is there enough

919
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: money I can give you that your safety, or your

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00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: your family concerns, or your medical concerns could be erased.

921
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Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting ethical question that people

922
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Speaker 1: will look at it. I don't think it's I don't

923
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: think i'd call a pay to play. I would how

924
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: what would I call it? I call it, uh play

925
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: to get paid? Yeah, or if you play you might

926
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Speaker 1: get paid. I think that's I mean, I think that's

927
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Speaker 1: the I think that that's the inference of these things.

928
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: And then get pay to play has such a negative

929
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: connotation because it's politics. But there's definitely if you come

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00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: forward element to this, there's a chance for me to

931
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Speaker 1: get your cash. I mean that's what Hey, if you

932
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Speaker 1: tell your story, I think I can sell it. Pretend

933
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Speaker 1: to fifteen thousand minus my one third. That's a real

934
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Speaker 1: text message. And and if you come forward, you're going

935
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Speaker 1: to get seven fifty. The woman told me the story

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Speaker 1: of the final meetings she had two days before the election.

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Speaker 1: Sunday before the election, she shows up at the Hotel

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Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom and her husband, or there's this the woman

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Speaker 1: that was in the hospital before. Yes, she gets out

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Speaker 1: of the hospital, she tells her, I don't want to

941
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Speaker 1: do it. And then they agree at least to meet

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Speaker 1: one more time. And because Lisa slowed all the way

943
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Speaker 1: across the country to meet her, and she goes to

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Speaker 1: the hotel and she tells us anecdote, this is how

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Speaker 1: they structured the seven hundred fifty thousand, because we've had

946
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Speaker 1: a hard time getting you to say yes and no.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you three fifty right now, and then if

948
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Speaker 1: you record your statement, you'll get the next three fifty

949
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Speaker 1: after you record that statement. A very business like transaction.

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Speaker 1: It seems to like have a carrot and stick intend

951
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Speaker 1: to it, which is you'll get half your money. Now,

952
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: sit down to your interview. We put your interview exploitted

953
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: out there, and then you'll get your other half. And

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Speaker 1: that's how she described the meeting to us. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and she said it was kind of it was kind

956
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Speaker 1: of just concerning to me, and it was it was

957
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable. And I got enough to follow up question

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Speaker 1: to that. I mean, this is two days before presidential election.

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Speaker 1: If in fact this woman took the money, the American

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00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: people wouldn't know she got paid three dollars. Seven thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars is a real serious number. That is a lot

962
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: of money, and and it certainly opens the door for

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Speaker 1: people that are unethical to make false charges just to

964
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Speaker 1: get paid. Number one. And and similarly, I it's just

965
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: mind numbing the degree to which people will go to

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Speaker 1: destroy a candidate in the presidential race. It takes my

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00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: breath away. You know, you add to that the salacious dossier, John,

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Speaker 1: you add to that, you know, uh, leaking intelligence to

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Speaker 1: her people, or maybe the phony dossier used for a

970
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: FISA warrant. You know, this is this is this isn't

971
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: politics at a level that we've ever seen before. Well,

972
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Speaker 1: there's really you mentioned something about disclosure, and just think

973
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Speaker 1: about this. And I've talked to Joe Hart and she's

974
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Speaker 1: a very nice lady, and she was very kind to

975
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: go over the facts of the story with me and

976
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: try to get the story right. And I greatly appreciate that.

977
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: But she's been out there for many months against originally

978
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: against her will, and she didn't originally want to come

979
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: out at all. In fact, there's evidence that she was

980
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: trying to be friendly to Trump and early eight eight

981
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: days of the campaign that her name gets forced out

982
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: there from the old lawsuit. But she's been out there

983
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: for a year. Name has been mentioned, there's been press

984
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: conferences and interviews. Until this story, nobody knew that she

985
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: had her mortgage paid off through a donor arranged by

986
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: this lawyer. And and if if you only watched the

987
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: press UH TV stories, is it now an obligation of

988
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the media if somebody does come out and make an

989
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: allegation that, one of the first questions needs to be

990
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: are you being were you paid at all to tell

991
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: this story? Well, I will tell you I've been in

992
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: this circumstance before, and and I wrote an entire book,

993
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: and I've been credited with helping another woman who was

994
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Speaker 1: sexually I think strong evidence was sexually assaulted by dominic

995
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: stress Khan, one of the most powerful men in the

996
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: world back in two thousand eleven hotel housekeeper. And when

997
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Speaker 1: I did the interview, the very first one of the

998
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Speaker 1: very first questions I did, when I sat across it,

999
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: I have to ask you this don't take offense from it,

1000
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: but as a due diligence, I have to ask you,

1001
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: as anyone paid you to come forward to make these statements.

1002
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Did you ask for anybody? Did you seek any money?

1003
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: And I will tell you each one of these women

1004
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: when I interviewed them, I asked him, is anyone forcing

1005
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: you to come forward to anyone pay you to talk

1006
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: to me? But I can't think during this process of

1007
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: anybody in the media asking these women. And by the way,

1008
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Speaker 1: there's a reason why tabloid news that pays for interviews

1009
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: that they are viewed with far more scrutiny and skepticism

1010
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: because they're money involved. That's always been the case, and

1011
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: that's why you know, good news rooms don't have a

1012
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: policy they'd never pay for a story because it taints

1013
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: the story. That's right. I think that's exactly right. And

1014
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: I think that this story does raise that question. Have

1015
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: we reached a point in journalism where, even in the

1016
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Speaker 1: very sancro set and very serious issue of sexual sexual harassment,

1017
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Speaker 1: which we now know to be very pervasive, that we

1018
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Speaker 1: may have to ask every accused and accused or whether

1019
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: there's any payments occurring because we've seen so much evidence

1020
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Speaker 1: of it. Remember what got Lisa Bloom in trouble with

1021
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Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, an allegation that she was trying to buy

1022
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: the silence of a sexual assault victim. Money apparently is

1023
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: used in these cases in many different ways, and we

1024
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Speaker 1: as reporters, if we want to be careful, I think

1025
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Speaker 1: we need to ask as I'm comfortable as the question is,

1026
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: We're probably gonna have to ask it going forward, because

1027
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: this story makes clear money was clearly at the center

1028
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: of all. I can tell you this when I interviewed

1029
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Speaker 1: Paula Jones, and I interviewed Dolly Kyle Browning, and when

1030
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Speaker 1: I interviewed Kathleen William, when I interviewed wanting to Broderick

1031
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: back in the day, I and I have never paid

1032
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: for an interview of anybody ever, you know. And and

1033
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: by the way, if I did, I think the media

1034
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: headline would be Annity paid for that lie or whatever,

1035
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the media would They would jump

1036
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: down my throat so hard. I don't know if I'd

1037
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: survive it for crying out loud. I really don't know.

1038
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: There's no doubt here that they can't contemplate it. The

1039
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: only media payments I can find among these two women

1040
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: is that Joe Hart does acknowledge that a small number

1041
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: of photos that I think of her and Donald Trump

1042
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that were sold off to some media outlets. They made

1043
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Speaker 1: some money on that. By the way, that's a little

1044
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: secret in the business too. They won't pay for your

1045
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: story on the networks, but they'll pay for the pictures

1046
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: an exorbit impu yeah, licensing pictures. And that's just a

1047
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: backdoorway of what buying the story certainly certainly a way

1048
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: a bit put cash in the pocket of the person

1049
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: that is the subject or interview subject. But when you

1050
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: when you see the beginning overtures to the second woman,

1051
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Lisa um Bloom is very clear, I think I can

1052
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: sell your story. I mean, I think it's gonna think

1053
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: one of the quotes, or I think I can get

1054
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: you ten to fifteen thousand minus my one third commission.

1055
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: It's very transactional sounding. It almost sounds like, you know,

1056
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Speaker 1: we're selling a car or selling a uh, you know,

1057
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Speaker 1: a widget. And and these are very to these women.

1058
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Speaker 1: Having talked to both of them, these are very personal

1059
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: stories with very personal consequences and and it's sort of

1060
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: jarring to them when they look back at their text messages. Now,

1061
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Speaker 1: that was one of the things when we went with

1062
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Speaker 1: the women, we went through the text message is how jarring.

1063
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: Some of these requests for hey, you better delete your

1064
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Facebook and get that pro Trump stuff out of there

1065
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: because they might not believe you. I can get you

1066
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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen K one hundred thousands, not enough money.

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Speaker 1: When they look back at it a year later, there

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Speaker 1: was a sense of transactional nature to it that made them,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they one of them use the

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Speaker 1: It's very jarring to go back and look at these

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Speaker 1: right now. All right, John, I gotta tell you, I

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Speaker 1: I this story has just thrown me and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at some response we're getting for a loop. I thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. We're gonna go full bore on this

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Speaker 1: tonight on Hannity UH nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.

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Speaker 1: It this takes my breath away, very very scary what

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Speaker 1: we're reading here. And uh, I think you did a

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Speaker 1: good service to expose that this has been going on

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Speaker 1: and the politics behind it and everything else. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: sing us Now, d C. McAllister and she writes for

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Speaker 1: The Federalist and d C. I know you've been listening

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Speaker 1: to John. I want to hear your response to that. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is why people don't believe these victims when they

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Speaker 1: come forward. The last minute in election because they're suspects.

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Speaker 1: It's all politics, and I mean, we're I'm not really

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Speaker 1: surprised that has happened. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were suspects at the time that this kind of thing

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Speaker 1: was going on, which is why they didn't believe it,

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Speaker 1: which is why they put Trump in the White House. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand, just days before an election,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna offer somebody seven under fifty grand. How does

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Speaker 1: that you know the public wouldn't have known that she

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Speaker 1: was paid, and and how do you candidate can't recover

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Speaker 1: so you can literally almost buy someone an election. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's worried about Russian interference, what about political interference

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Speaker 1: and paying people off to say stories, whether you know,

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Speaker 1: and how do we ever determine if it's true or not?

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Speaker 1: I mean, tabloid stories are viewed as tabloid because they

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Speaker 1: do pay for stories. You know, news organizations are not

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Speaker 1: supposed to pay well. And we hear the left all

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Speaker 1: the time talking about the loss of our democracy, how

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Speaker 1: our democracy is falling apart because the Trump or any

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Speaker 1: anyone out on the Republican side. But this is the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that really does attack ours our democracy.

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Speaker 1: We're getting lies being told about candidates so that the

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Speaker 1: our force not to vote for them, and if we

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Speaker 1: do them, even though we don't believe them, then were

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Speaker 1: maligned in the public eye by supporting someone who is

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Speaker 1: the sexual harasser when we didn't believe it the first place.

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Speaker 1: And this is the kind of thing that it's just

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Speaker 1: going to undermine our politics and undermine our country in

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Speaker 1: our trust in one another. And we're just not going

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Speaker 1: to be able to have good people in office because

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Speaker 1: there happen to run for office because who knows what?

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Speaker 1: Don't be accused of? What? What? How will this change?

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Speaker 1: This me too movement? Now? Well, what's going to change? Well,

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Speaker 1: there's already a lot of suspicion about the me too

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Speaker 1: movement because it has been brought from for someone's hitting

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Speaker 1: on you in the office who have to be out

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Speaker 1: on a date is compared to raping someone. And so

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Speaker 1: we're having these broad brush accusations of sexual assault against

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Speaker 1: men in the office, and I mean already men are

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Speaker 1: getting angry and pushing back against us. I've written a

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Speaker 1: couple of pieces already about criticizing this kind of thing

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Speaker 1: and not and understanding how people interact in the office

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Speaker 1: and not accusing everyone all the time of sexual harassment

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Speaker 1: or sexual assault when that's not what's happening involved. It's

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Speaker 1: a power play and people are just doing it for

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Speaker 1: their own agendism. Not I'm not saying that there aren't

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Speaker 1: real cases out there, but the problem is is that

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Speaker 1: when you start having all these fake cases, the real

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Speaker 1: cases are not going to be believed in the future,

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Speaker 1: and so women are the ones who are going to

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Speaker 1: be actually really hurt in the end by all of that. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I certainly in credibility, and now if there's

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Speaker 1: somebody that is of an honest victim, and the first

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Speaker 1: question in the media has now got to be did

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Speaker 1: you get paid you talk to anybody with political associations?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing this for political reasons? You know? That's

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Speaker 1: why you know, I always am suspicious about an October surprise.

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Speaker 1: I'm always suspicious, you know. I I got excoriated for

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Speaker 1: saying that. I think we always have to believe in

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence, especially when it's a he said,

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Speaker 1: she said, And I was consistent. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's a Republican or a Democrat. I've been right more

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Speaker 1: than wrong in my life because I have held to

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Speaker 1: that view well. And perception of innocence is also in

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Speaker 1: the public layer, and a lot of people are saying

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Speaker 1: with that's just in the court, but now it's giving

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Speaker 1: people that benefits the doubt. That's the way we have

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Speaker 1: a civil society. And again, if we're gonna have this

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Speaker 1: kind of thing happening, and we think that we have

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Speaker 1: to believe every woman that we know that they are

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Speaker 1: being paid to say these things, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: really going to undermine women who aren't really the victim.

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Speaker 1: And we're saying that this is going to free women

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Speaker 1: to be able to be able to seek out No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's actually gonna shut them down in the future.

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Speaker 1: So we're because I'm noting know the truth about it.

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Speaker 1: It's all about power. It's all about you know, advancing

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Speaker 1: some kind of political game, and it's not about women

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Speaker 1: at all, and they're going to become the real victims

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Speaker 1: of that in our country. I think in many ways

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Speaker 1: what I'm reading here this is victimhood. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think there's an expectation that you you said you do this,

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Speaker 1: What do you mean You're wasting my time? What is

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Speaker 1: this all about. Then you know, it didn't seem exactly

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Speaker 1: compassionate many instances, um and and then I don't. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's they They definitely there's a political agenda,

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Speaker 1: and they want these women to talk because it advances

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Speaker 1: that agenda. I don't see them working so hard against

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Speaker 1: the people that they disagree with politically, exactly. Alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: d c McAllister, thank you so much. One Seawn, you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. Uh, now

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Speaker 1: we're going to get back into our Judicial Watch investigation. Also,

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Speaker 1: Sydney Powell is going to join us. Is evidence that

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Speaker 1: they were extremely careless in their handling a very sensitive,

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Speaker 1: highly classified formation. For example, seven email chains concerned matters

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Speaker 1: that were classified at the top secret Special Access Program

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Speaker 1: at the time they were sent and received. With respect

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Speaker 1: to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not

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Speaker 1: find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton's personal email domain in

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Speaker 1: its various configurations since two thousand and nine, was hacked successfully,

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Speaker 1: but given the nature of the system and if the

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Speaker 1: actors potentially involved, we assess we will be unlikely to

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Speaker 1: see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors

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Speaker 1: gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people

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Speaker 1: with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her

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Speaker 1: personal account. We assess it is possible that hostile actors

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Speaker 1: gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account. Although there

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Speaker 1: is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the

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Speaker 1: handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable

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Speaker 1: prosecutor would bring in such a case. Prosecutors necessarily a

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Speaker 1: way a number of factors before deciding whether to bring charges.

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Speaker 1: They're obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially

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Speaker 1: regarding intent. We cannot find a case that would support

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Speaker 1: bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted

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Speaker 1: involved some combination of clearly intentional and willful mishandling of

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Speaker 1: classified information, or vast quantities of information exposed in such

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Speaker 1: a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct,

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Speaker 1: or indications of disloyalty to the United States, or efforts

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Speaker 1: to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

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Speaker 1: Let me go back, if I can, very briefly, to

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Speaker 1: the decision to publicly go out with your results on

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Speaker 1: the email. Was your decision influenced by the Attorney General's

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Speaker 1: tarmac meeting with the former President Bill Clinton. Yes, in

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Speaker 1: in a ultimately conclusive way. That was the thing that

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Speaker 1: kept it for me that I had to do something

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Speaker 1: separately to protect the credibility of the investigation, which meant

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Speaker 1: both the FBI and the Justice Department. Where there are

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Speaker 1: other things that contributed to that that you can describe

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Speaker 1: in an open session, there were other things that contributed

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Speaker 1: to that one significant item I can't I know the

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Speaker 1: committee has been briefed on. There's been some public accounts

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Speaker 1: of it which are nonsense, but I understand that committee

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Speaker 1: has been briefed on the classified facts. Probably the only

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Speaker 1: other consideration that I guess I can talk about an

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Speaker 1: open setting is that at one point the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: had directed me not to call it an investigation, but

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Speaker 1: instead to call it a matter, which confused me and

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Speaker 1: concerned me. But that was one of the bricks in

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Speaker 1: the load that led me to conclude, I have to

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Speaker 1: step away from the Department if we're to close this

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Speaker 1: case credibly. Right, So they got the Hillary Clinton James

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Speaker 1: call me. Hillary's team was extremely careless. Oh, let's get

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Speaker 1: rid of the words that really matter, and that means

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Speaker 1: gross negligent the legal standard. Uh, then you have called me.

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Speaker 1: It's possible hostile actors likely gained access to her email.

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Speaker 1: Well here earlier it was likely that happened. Now we

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Speaker 1: know it did happen, and then call me despite all

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: the evidence of law breaking, No reasonable prosecutor would bring

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Speaker 1: criminal charges, really and then call me. My decision to

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Speaker 1: go public with this decision was affected by Loretta Lynch

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Speaker 1: and the tarmac meeting. All right here to break it

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Speaker 1: all down, this memo of the FBI director literally written

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Speaker 1: on May the second, and Hillary wasn't even interviewed till

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Speaker 1: the fourth of July weekend. We have the president, the

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Speaker 1: chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, J. Sekula,

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Speaker 1: also counsel to the President. What's going on, sir? How

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Speaker 1: are you well? Sean? I'm doing okay, But I think

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Speaker 1: the state of the Republic I'm concerned about with this

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Speaker 1: u situation within the FBI. I mean, this is very serious.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got these edits, and as we did an

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Speaker 1: analysis of those edits today, I mean, it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of breathtaking in scope, from what James Comey wrote to

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Speaker 1: what Peter Strock and uh, maybe Andrew mcabe or whoever

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Speaker 1: else was working on this allowed to go forward. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's you. You can go line by line, and it

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Speaker 1: is a pretty outrageous. You mentioned the gross negligence, which

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Speaker 1: is the key words, by the way, for a ten USC.

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Speaker 1: Seven nine F, and that is the disposition of basically

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Speaker 1: classified information. This would have gone to the server issue,

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Speaker 1: and there is as originally drafted, he said, there is

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Speaker 1: evidence to support the conclusion that Secretary Clinton and others

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Speaker 1: used the privaty mail server in a manner that was

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Speaker 1: grossly negligent with respect in the handling of classified information.

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Speaker 1: And the statute itself phrase is through gross negligence permits

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Speaker 1: the same to be removed from its proper place of custody.

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Speaker 1: So he changed he writes that what comey rights, it's

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Speaker 1: changed in the edit process too extremely careless. Now, by

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Speaker 1: the way, technically extremely careless means gross negligence. But he

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Speaker 1: they were specific in taking that language out. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's point number one here, and and that is the

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Speaker 1: starting point to show you that this declination, which was

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was you know, you and I both

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Speaker 1: lived in Atlanta, and I'm a member the Georgia Bar

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Speaker 1: and I went to law school in Georgia, and of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, I practice primarily watching to see these days,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still an active member the Georgia Bar. When

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Speaker 1: you try a case in South Georgia, they called it

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Speaker 1: home cooking. I mean, was this case involved home cooking?

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Speaker 1: In other words, was the was the the wasn't already done?

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Speaker 1: And the answer to that is unequivocally, especially when you

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Speaker 1: see this memo, there's no question. But there's one other

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Speaker 1: way to say that's so another way to say that

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Speaker 1: is the fix was in. Fix was in and the

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Speaker 1: home cooking was done. That's exactly right. So that's is

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Speaker 1: that this point is just point one. Well, look, there's

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Speaker 1: multiple parts of this that are illegal, and that is

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Speaker 1: first of we got the ethical portion where there's ethical issues,

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Speaker 1: and then the legality issues of what was going on here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how in the world James called me

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Speaker 1: could have become you know, it became FBI director and

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Speaker 1: attorney general and they just let that go. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand how. For instance, in the original draft of the document,

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Speaker 1: it says the sheer volume of information that was properly

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Speaker 1: classified as secret at the time that it was discussed

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Speaker 1: on email supports and inference that the participants were grossly

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Speaker 1: negligent and they're handing them the information year volume of

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Speaker 1: information changed to. In addition to this highly sensitive information,

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Speaker 1: we also found information that was properly class marted secret

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Speaker 1: by the U S intelligence community at the time it

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Speaker 1: was discussed on email. Now, first of all, even that

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Speaker 1: one's an emission of liability, but to go from the

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Speaker 1: sheer volume of information to just a statement about highly

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Speaker 1: sensitive information is rather drastic in its scope. Then you

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Speaker 1: have this one. This is especially concerning because all of

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Speaker 1: these emails and Sean, this goes to the heart of

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Speaker 1: what you and I were talking about for a year.

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Speaker 1: This is especially concerning because all of these emails were

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Speaker 1: housed on servers not supported by full time security staffs

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Speaker 1: like those found at the departments and agencies of the

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Speaker 1: US government. That was the Cooke, the the server in

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Speaker 1: the Colorado Townhouse restroom. Uh. And then you had the

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Speaker 1: one that was in their basement. They completely that was

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Speaker 1: in so James Comey's report is as he drafted it.

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Speaker 1: This is especially concerning because they were not housing secure servers.

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Speaker 1: It is completely removed a top Republican senator. Now we

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Speaker 1: now know Ron Johnson is raising a pretty profound question

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Speaker 1: about the FBI's role and possible interference in the election,

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Speaker 1: and his letter reveals specific edits that are made in

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Speaker 1: this particular case because there's more. You know, the original

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Speaker 1: draft had likely that foreign actors and sources. We've since

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Speaker 1: confirmed that five foreign intelligence agencies did have access to

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Speaker 1: that email server in a mom and pop shop bathroom closet.

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Speaker 1: They did have it there. Changing gross negligence to extreme

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Speaker 1: careless is that's a big deal. And other changes were

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Speaker 1: made as as well. In this particular thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're removing the intel community, uh, in that particular statute. Look,

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Speaker 1: here's what we know. We know that Hillary Clinton did

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Speaker 1: have classified, top secret Special Access Program information on the

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Speaker 1: unsecure server. We do know that she deleted thirty three

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Speaker 1: thousand emails that had been subpoenaed. We do know that

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Speaker 1: she used acid wash bleach bit to remove the evidence

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Speaker 1: or any chance that the FBI forensically could recover it.

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Speaker 1: We do know that devices that had the same information

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Speaker 1: would smash with hammers. Now, Jay, look, I don't you

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a lawyer like yourself that has

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Speaker 1: argued multiple times twenty some odd times before the United

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Speaker 1: States Supreme Court to figure out that this is an

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Speaker 1: obstruction case, mishandling a classified information, destruction of classified information,

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Speaker 1: and that's just the beginning. How about the destruction of

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Speaker 1: evidence that that's called obstruction of justice? Yeah, under the

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Speaker 1: under the authority of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

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Speaker 1: How about the fact that this document was written May

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Speaker 1: five and there have been sixteen witnesses schedule that had

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Speaker 1: not been interviewed with, many of which were given immunity.

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Speaker 1: And as a colleague of mindset, who was former U

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Speaker 1: S attorney who gives immunity and then doesn't interview that

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Speaker 1: witness before they make their conclusion, Well, what should happen

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Speaker 1: at this? What what should happen to James Comey and

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Speaker 1: Peter Struck Struck of course, the pro Hillary anti Trump

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Speaker 1: guy who's involved it seemingly in every every case we discuss.

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Speaker 1: But he's the one that that changed the language in this,

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Speaker 1: edited this and was part of the exoneration in early May,

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Speaker 1: before Hillary was even interviewed in July. Here's here's the situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're distinct in one sense, but they're

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Speaker 1: connecting another distinct in that Comey was the director of

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Speaker 1: the FBI. He could have said, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going with these changes, but he didn't. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two. Peter Struck he was the

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about who he is interviewed. He has

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Speaker 1: interviewed Hillary Clinton at the end of this, and Huma

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Speaker 1: Abdeen and Cheryl Mills. He was the lead investigator on

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Speaker 1: that case while all the nonsense was going on with

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Speaker 1: him and Lisa Page. Then he was put on Bob

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Speaker 1: Mueller's team and after about two and a half months

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Speaker 1: taken off that team because of the emails and text

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Speaker 1: messages and people have told me. I mean I heard

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Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler in congressman from New York who I know,

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Speaker 1: and and Jerry's out there saying, hey, everybody hasn't tunnled

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Speaker 1: to their First Amendment free speech rights. That is true.

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Speaker 1: What is not true is you cannot be the investigator

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Speaker 1: of the case when you have expressed expressed this kind

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Speaker 1: of information, because now you're not just a person. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what is your what how did you interpret clients?

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with I mean, that's what lawyers do,

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Speaker 1: but you know, this is different. You're the investigator here,

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Speaker 1: so it's not unbiased and it's not equal justice under

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Speaker 1: the law. So Peter struct's whole and look, he his

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Speaker 1: reach into all of this is unbelievable, except he's still

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Speaker 1: an employee of the department or the FBI and asked

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Speaker 1: this question, and they had this conversation. One of the

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Speaker 1: emails talks about between him and Lisa Page about our

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Speaker 1: conversation in Andy's office. I'm assuming, and it's assumption that

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Speaker 1: this is Andrew McCabe. This is the insurance conversation. Well, well, no,

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Speaker 1: they refer to it, then classify it as an insurance policy,

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Speaker 1: and then they talk specifically that Lisa Page, another Mueller employee,

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Speaker 1: another FBI employee, is telling Peter Struck that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's the guardian of our democratic republic. That and I mean,

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Speaker 1: it sounds to me like their plan be their insurance policy.

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Speaker 1: In all likelihood, it wasn't Andrew McCabe's office. And it

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Speaker 1: sounds to me because if you look at the timing,

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Speaker 1: it's it's awfully coincidental that that's the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: quote Russia probe. Well, I think, look, I think all

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Speaker 1: of those questions you ask are and you're right. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that and this is what Senator Johnson wants

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Speaker 1: to get to and I do too. What is the

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Speaker 1: time frame of all of this? Now there's where were

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Speaker 1: they in the investigation as these changes were being made?

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Speaker 1: Because you asked yourself, why were they writing a resoneration

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Speaker 1: letters three months before they any of the principles? But

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Speaker 1: that's you can't put any of this the stuff aside.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with all of this, Sean. You look

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Speaker 1: at this situation and you say to yourself, how could

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Speaker 1: this possibly be happening? I mean, in the United States

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Speaker 1: of America, this stuff is going on, and then you've

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Speaker 1: got a complicit media and all this. We talked about

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Speaker 1: that earlier in the week with this NBC nonsense that

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Speaker 1: I dealt with earlier and we which seems like a

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Speaker 1: lifetime ago now. But the fact is, you look at

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Speaker 1: all of this and say to yourself, how in the

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Speaker 1: world is this good for the constitutional republic we live in.

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Speaker 1: The answer is it's not. So I think that what

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Speaker 1: Chris Ray has to do. And that's why I by

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't you know, I know they I've

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Speaker 1: got an inspector general. I get it. But this is

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Speaker 1: beyond an inspector general in my view. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: say Jeff Sessions is looking at whether there needs to

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Speaker 1: be a special counsel. Here we have you put the

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Speaker 1: Peter Strock situation with the Fusion GPS, Bruce or Bruce

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Speaker 1: or his wife. Now we know the wife was hired

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Speaker 1: to work on the dossier. That oars me and and

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Speaker 1: her husband who's the d o J number four and

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Speaker 1: d o J is meeting with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson.

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Speaker 1: And you put all this together and you say to yourself,

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Speaker 1: this is not justice. This is not the way a

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Speaker 1: credible investigation is supposed to go forward. This is not

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Speaker 1: the way it works in the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: This stuff has got to be fixed because this is

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Speaker 1: not good for us. When I say us, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the American people called the Constitution. J I know,

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Speaker 1: we're not even talking about surveillance, unmasking, leaking intelligence. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're not even talking about asking. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 1: with the Fusion GPS fake dossier used as a basis

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Speaker 1: upon which they obtained a FISA warrant. General Flynn pleads

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Speaker 1: guilty flynt. General Flynn pleads guilty, and then the judge

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Speaker 1: that's sentencing, the judge that took the polea then reccuses

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Speaker 1: himself before sentencing that I have no idea. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not speaking the will the judge. Maybe the judge mature.

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Speaker 1: The judge thought he had to recuse himself, but everybody

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Speaker 1: with sure look to you don't have the right to

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Speaker 1: know this, but nice to know why, because here's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff I'd like to know if that phony

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Speaker 1: you know, Hillary Clinton bought and paid for dossier was

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Speaker 1: the was the reason that the FISA warrant was granted. Alright,

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Speaker 1: quick break, we'll come back. Jay Seculo is with us

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Speaker 1: more of the Sean Hannity Show straight ahead. All right,

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Speaker 1: as we continue, Jay secular is with US Counsel to

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Speaker 1: the President and the chief counsel of the American Center

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Speaker 1: for Law Injuice. I'd like to know why, if we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to interview, you know, be investigating Russian collusion, why

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Speaker 1: we don't view the Hillary Boughton paid for phony dossier

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Speaker 1: as collusion of some kind because Russian propaganda was paid for,

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Speaker 1: allies were paid for to influence the American people. By

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Speaker 1: the way, did you see John Solomon's Peace today. I

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Speaker 1: did I did? I mean, three days before the election

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Speaker 1: you have people being offered seven fifty thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: accuse Trump. Is any of this shocking to you? No? No, okay,

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Speaker 1: right so here here what's shocking to me is it's

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Speaker 1: so deep, and it's so profound and that our constitution

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Speaker 1: is literally being shredded before our eyes, and the rule

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Speaker 1: of law and equal justice under the law maybe nonexistent

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Speaker 1: if they get away with us, that's what. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: but I want to go to something you just said

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Speaker 1: about a minute and a half ago, and people need

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Speaker 1: to understand if that dossier was the basis of a

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Speaker 1: FISA warrant that resulted in the unmasking of Americans, and

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Speaker 1: we know that the first time they went in for

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Speaker 1: the FIES warrant they didn't get it, which is like

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Speaker 1: unheard of. Right, then they get it. And if it's

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Speaker 1: based on that Christopher Steel dossier, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: whole host of constitutional issues. You got a whole host

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Speaker 1: of them, right there. Serious stuff, all right, Jay, Secular

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Speaker 1: American Center for Law Injustice. We'll join us on TV

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Speaker 1: tonight as well. John Solomon will break for the first

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Speaker 1: time on TV is blockbuster column from our elire today

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Speaker 1: and we have so much more to get to. Shawn

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Speaker 1: is a toe free telephone number. Rebuild the FBI. It'll

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Speaker 1: be bigger and better than ever. But it is very

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Speaker 1: sad when you look at those documents and how they've

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Speaker 1: done that is really really disgraceful, and you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of very angry people that are seeing it. It's

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Speaker 1: a very sad thing to watch. I will tell you that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going today on behalf of the FBI their

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Speaker 1: new building. And you know when I when everybody, not me,

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Speaker 1: when everybody the level of anger at what they've been

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Speaker 1: witnessing with respect to the FBI is certainly very sad

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Speaker 1: about Michael, About Michael Flynn, would you consider a harden

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Speaker 1: from Michael Flynn. I don't want to talk about pardons

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Speaker 1: from Michael Flynn yet. We'll see what happens. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I can say this, when you look at what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the FBI and with the Justice Department, people

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Speaker 1: are very very angry. When you look at the Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton investigation, it was you know, I've been saying it

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Speaker 1: for a long time, that was a rigged system. Folks

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Speaker 1: that was a rigged system. When you look at what

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Speaker 1: they did with respect to the Hillary Clinton's investigation. It

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: was rigged and there's never been anything like it in

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Speaker 1: this country that we've ever found before. It's very very sad,

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Speaker 1: very very sad, so true everything we now know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the the election, the whole process was rigged against Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 1: And let's speak volumes, you know, and then we find

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: out the fix was in and it was rigged, and

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,480
Speaker 1: she was never even going to get a full, complete, accurate,

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Speaker 1: real investigation into the email server scandal and all of

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Speaker 1: the different incidences that we know crimes were committed. And

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Speaker 1: we know in this now this early May early May

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Speaker 1: exoneration of Hillary before she's even interviewed or other of

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Speaker 1: the main witnesses interviewed, that James Comey and Peter Struck

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: are writing her exoneration and even things that they say, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, likely that foreign actors had hacked into her system,

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: her server that was in a mom and pop shop

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: bathroom closet. Well, we do know for a fact that happened.

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: Mishandling a classified information is a felony. She did that

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: by setting up this system to begin with. Then the

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01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: thirty three thousand subpoenab emails that were deleted on purpose.

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01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: They were, they were. She didn't get to decide what

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01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: emails she can delete or not delete. And then of

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01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: course she lies and says there was no classified information

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01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: on the email server sent or received or mark classified. Uh.

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01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: That turned out to be a lie to. And then

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: just to make sure it's gone forever all then we

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01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: use bleach bit and we acid wash any evidence in

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: any proof and just by any chance that it might

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01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: be on a a blackberried device as well, well we'll

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01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: just have an age smash those with hammers. That would

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: be called obstruction of dust justice. That would be called

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01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: destroying you know, to secret classified Special Access program information

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01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: five foreign intelligence sources. So James call me. You know,

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01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: they change it from gross negligence to extremely carelessness. That's

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: a legal term. That was a purposeful legal distinction. He

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01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: was gonna tell the story how foreign countries and foreign

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01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies has gotten that. Then he pulled that out

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01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: of the letter, and he pulled a whole lot else

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01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: out on an attempt to exonerate Hillary Clinton. Unbelievable anyway,

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Speaker 1: Joining us now to discuss this and much more, we

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Speaker 1: have Sydney Powell, federal appellate attorney, former federal prosecutor, author

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01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: of the book Licensed to Lie, exposing corruption in the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Tom Fitton is with us and he

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: is the president of Judicial Watch. Welcome both of you

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01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: to the program. Let me start with you, Sydney Powell.

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Speaker 1: And you know when you look at all of these

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01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 1: developments at this point, and then you got Peter Struck

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01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: so pro Hillary, he's up to his eyeballs and everything here.

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: And the team that Muller put together and call me

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01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: colluding to put the fix in for Hillary, not even

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01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: mentioning the inappropriate meeting on the tarmac with Loretta Lynch

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01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton. You begin to see a pattern here.

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01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Destroy the Trump people and exonerate guilty Clinton people. There's

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01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: definitely a pattern here, Seaun. I've been writing about it

1542
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: since I published an article for The Observer called the

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01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Countless Crimes of Hillary Clinton two years ago, and over

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01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: a year ago called in The Observer for Comy and

1545
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: Laretta Lynch to be impeached for whitewashing Clinton's crimes. And

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: one of the things people need to realize is this

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01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: went all the way up to the President. The whole

1548
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: secret server thing, the approval of the Clinton Foundation, UM

1549
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: deciding not to prosecutor. President Obama was emailing Hillary Clinton

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: under an alias at that secret server. He knew she

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01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: had set up a private server at her residence. He

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: either had to explicitly or implicitly approve that for it

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: to happen. The same is true with the Clinton Foundation,

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: So his fingerprints are all over that. And anybody who

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01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: emailed her at Clinton email dot gov, I mean dot

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: com had to have known they weren't sending messages to

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01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: a secure server. So it goes wide, and it goes deep.

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01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: It does indeed. Um, Now I guess the question of

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Tom Fitton a judicial Watch. They obtained documents that actually

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: showed the Clinton and Uma Aberdeen were literally allowed to

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01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: remove physical and electronic records with the approval of the

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01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Obama administration from the State Department that they claim were

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01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: unclassified and personal. Uh, here's the problem. That included her

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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: entire schedule who she met with. Now we know from

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: past information that, uh, the people that got to see

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton whild Secretary of State, the overwhelming majority of them,

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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: or people that donated to either the Clinton Foundation or

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01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: some Clinton connection in some place money, serious amounts of money. Uh,

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01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: and that you know, average American citizens, they weren't so

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01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: high up on the list of visitors when it came

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01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: to the Clintons. Oh, it's even worse than that. The

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: documents show ummiting emails show that she was the go

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01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: between between for the foundation and who was demanding favors

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01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: for its donors and the State Department, and she was

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01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: making it happen. And then you have now these new

1576
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: documents showing that Hillary Clinton walked away with these documents.

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01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: And it's even worse because the State Department promised, don't worry,

1578
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: your call logs and your schedules won't be made available

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01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: to the public under the Freedom Information Act, which is bunk.

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01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that against the law. You can't have a secretument

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01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: to keep it to Yeah, so what how did she

1582
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: make a special deal? And is there evidence that the

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01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: Obama administration and who when the Obama administration approved it?

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01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. You've got to figure out

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01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: that the State Department knew also put the contexts, They

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: also knew about the emails, and they allowed her to

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: walk away with the emails. So you have sixty thou

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: government emails, including class for information that goes walking out

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: the door. She's allowed to take care schedule, she's allowed

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01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: to take materials about her gifts, gifts that she received

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: a Secretary of State. Can you say foundation, Well, exactly,

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: we're only finding out about this now, and and where

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01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: is the competent investigation as you pointed out, Sean, where

1594
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: this all should have been vetted last year. And in fact,

1595
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: the Justice Department and FBI, I could tell you they

1596
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: were five. This is what happened. Judicial Watch would get

1597
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: a court order for discovery, and the FBI would announce, oh,

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01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: we want to talk to those people that Judicial Watch

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01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: is about to talk to, and we get another order, Oh,

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: we really want to talk to those people judicial Watch

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01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: is about to talk to. And the only reason any

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01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: of these guys were interviewed, in my view, was because

1603
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: they knew they were going to have to come in

1604
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: and talk to Judicial Watch. So it was all grudging.

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01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,959
Speaker 1: And then we now know that the Lynch Clinton tarmac

1606
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: meeting took place, We know that Comey had other concerns

1607
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: about what the Justice Department was up to, and then

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: as you point out, he was also editing this this

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01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: letter where he predetermined that they were never going to

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01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: prosecute him prior to them being interviewed. Any of these people,

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01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you this, Mamma was running

1612
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 1: this from the get go, and all the edit seemed

1613
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: to fall nicely into Obama's theory of the case. But

1614
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: you seem to have everybody around Obama doing the dirty work.

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01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you have, you know, a U N Ambassador

1616
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: Samantha Power, and you know, unmasking Americans at a rate

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01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: of nearly one a day. Why would why would a

1618
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: UN ambassador ever need to do that? Or Susan Rice's

1619
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: role in any of this? And and what was Ben

1620
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Rhodes's role in any of this? I mean, you know,

1621
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: if you if you look at all of this and

1622
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you put it all together, you know, and everything involving

1623
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Peter Struck and everything involving Comy, and everything involving Comey's

1624
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: relationship with Muller and both their relationships with Rod Rosenstein

1625
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: and Andrew McCabe. And then you look at the Peter

1626
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: Struck text messages with his girlfriend pro Hillary anti Trump,

1627
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: and then they come up with an insurance policy. What

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: is the insurance policy? Well, if you look at the

1629
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: date and the time. It's around the time they began

1630
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: all this Russia investigation. So you know, to me, it's

1631
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: what you got a deep state, a group of actors

1632
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: for political reasons, doing everything that they possibly can do

1633
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: with insurance policies to make sure Donald Trump is never

1634
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: the president, or if he was, he was impaired to

1635
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the greatest extent possible and set up for impeachment. And

1636
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: that's what's happening, and that's where we are now. But look,

1637
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: you're a lawyer, Sidney, you worked at the Justice Department.

1638
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: How hard is it going to be to untangle this mess? Well,

1639
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: it's coming to light more every day thanks to the

1640
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: work that Tom and his team are doing and the

1641
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: other avid journalists, and I would encourage everybody to read

1642
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: License to Lie and look at the articles in the

1643
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: tweet I just tweeted at you at Sidney, Powell won

1644
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: because I've documented all of it, uh much of it

1645
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: long before any of this came up. And I think

1646
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Obama and Hillary made an unholy alliance back when she

1647
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: was running for president against him in the primary, and

1648
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: then he decided to make her secretary of State. You grace,

1649
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: and that primary the Clintons and Obama's hated each other.

1650
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was out there saying that the Obama camp

1651
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: played the race card and that they did it on purpose,

1652
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: and they did it multiple times. There there was bad

1653
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: blood there. Yeah, they hated each other, but they reached

1654
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: this unholy alliance pursued into which she would become Secretary

1655
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: of State. That set her up with her international experience

1656
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: as she lacked. Well, I mean, she would be the

1657
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: anointed one in exchange for you know, him covering for

1658
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: her for the rest of her career. You're a federal

1659
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: of federal appellate attorney or a former federal prosecutor. Uh,

1660
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Let's say that you see that the FBI director is

1661
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: working in conjunction with some subordinates at the FBI, and

1662
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: that they're writing an exoneration letter for a particular subject

1663
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: of investigation before they do the investigation. Uh. Would that

1664
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: be called obstruction of justice? In your mind? It certainly would.

1665
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: And why any of these people are still working for

1666
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the government is beyond my comprehension. I mean, Mr Struck,

1667
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: because at the center of all of these misconduct allegations

1668
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: and and the whitewashing of all of Clinton's things and

1669
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the investigation against President Trump, he is still there. On

1670
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: top of that, he's in the HR Department where he

1671
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: could blackmail every f FBI agent that's there. So it's

1672
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: so true. It's so true. And you get the leadership

1673
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: of the FBI and Justice Department Rosenstein and Ray saying, well,

1674
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait for the i G to act. Now

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: they have an independent obligation to figure out what's going on.

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01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: If Andy McCabe and a Lisa Page and Peter Stroke

1677
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: to three top FBI officials, we're talking about up ending

1678
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: a presidential election, they should be hauled out of the

1679
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: offices and until they figure out what went on, they

1680
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be anywhere near FBI headquarters. You know, we've worked

1681
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: with whistle blowers. You all work with whip whistle blowers.

1682
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 1: You know what happens when the government thinks that you

1683
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: did something wrong. But why is it these guys are

1684
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: being protected. It's it's it's it's not appropriate to put

1685
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: it teritably. Let me go back to the Judicial Watch case.

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01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Because you were able to uh discover and uncover Clinton's

1687
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: calls and schedules were literally hidden from view. That does

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01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: violate the Records Act. Uh, they were blocked from being

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01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: seen by the public. Uh. And we also and also

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01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: she was allowed to remove physically remove documents, uh and

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01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: files that she had. Now, when you consider an article

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01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: from the Associated Press from last August team with the

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01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: headline many donors to the Clinton Foundation met her at

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Speaker 1: the State Department, the article goes on to say at

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Speaker 1: least eighty five of the hundred and fifty four people

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Speaker 1: from private interests who met and had phone conversations scheduled

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Speaker 1: with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to

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Speaker 1: her family charity or pledge commitments to international programs. According

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Speaker 1: to a review of State Department calendars released so far

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Speaker 1: to the AP, combined, the eight five donors contributed as

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Speaker 1: much as a hundred and fifty six million dollars, and

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Speaker 1: at least forty donated more than a hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: each and twenty gave more than a million dollars each.

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Speaker 1: So maybe is that part of the records that Uma

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Speaker 1: and a Hillary removed from the State Department, you know?

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, part of the ones that were

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Speaker 1: washed with bleached bitt and acid from her computers. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they are the whole purpose of the secret server was

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Speaker 1: to enable to pay to play scheme at the State Department. Unbelievable. Alright,

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Speaker 1: eight one Shauna's at free telephone number. Thank you both

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Speaker 1: for being with us. We'll have this blockbuster report by

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Speaker 1: John Solomon, prominent attorney paying women to make allegations against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's part of the process, obviously to undermine

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Speaker 1: the president in the in the days, especially close to

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Speaker 1: the election. Uh watch the mainstream media try to ignore

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Speaker 1: this story.