WEBVTT - AMINA BUDDAFLY - Apple Oats & German Pancakes

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I have a very special guest, reality TV star

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<v Speaker 1>musician mother.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a butterfly is.

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<v Speaker 1>In the building. Yes, yes, yes, and I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to have you here. I met you a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and you were a breath of fresh air,

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<v Speaker 1>very beautiful in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. What will you have us eat?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm gonna have us eat a super simple

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast dish. Actually it's two separate dishes, but they are

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<v Speaker 3>easy to make, cheap, and you know something that I

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<v Speaker 3>ate a lot during hard times. So one is a

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<v Speaker 3>apples and oatmeal. That German term for it is a

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<v Speaker 3>famously and I actually used to eat it as well

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<v Speaker 3>as I you know, was growing up in Germany, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I took it along with me into, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>Times in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other one is a German pancake, also super simple,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a little bit different than you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>pancakes that people are used to in America, the few ones.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more like a almost like a crape. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>a German pancake and easy to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's it's apple and and oats.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and I used to eat it for breakfast

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<v Speaker 4>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the oats, what are the ingredients?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's old fashioned oats. It is apple.

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<v Speaker 3>I use one apple for one serving, so if I

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<v Speaker 3>just eat it by myself, it'll be one apple, and

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<v Speaker 3>I put almonds, orange juice and cinnamon, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not it doesn't have to be cooked on

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<v Speaker 3>the stove. So you can just wait a minute. How

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<v Speaker 3>is it not cooked on the stove? You don't cook

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<v Speaker 3>it on the stove.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then for the pancakes, the pancakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Ingredients are flour, milk, sugar, and eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, this is pretty simple. I've never heard of any

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<v Speaker 1>of the above. I'm going to ask you to repeat

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the way you said it.

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<v Speaker 2>In Germany, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Call it famously, and it's apples and odes basically the translation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah, but it's in German.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it sounds like. Okay, it sounds really special

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<v Speaker 1>when you say it. But all right, so walk us through.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, go ahead with the apples. Okay, take a bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you peel the apples.

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<v Speaker 3>Peel on it, and then you need a shredder like this,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just go all around.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you know you come to the.

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<v Speaker 1>And just so you know, if I would have, like

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<v Speaker 1>actually known about this dish, I would have helped you

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<v Speaker 1>pre make it.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, it's literally it's super fast to make.

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<v Speaker 3>This is probably the most annoying part because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get your fingers dirty and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's apple.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an apple. Yeah, it's apple. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of apples do you like? I only eat honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Crisp, But for this dish, I picked up Granny Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. You can use any apple that you like.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like sweeter, you know, obviously you would pick

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<v Speaker 3>like a Pink Lady or whatever you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Any kind of apple works. I was thinking more sour.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why sour is always good, even though this dish

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<v Speaker 3>does not have any sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why what I like about is healthy too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a super healthy breakfast dish, and that should be

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<v Speaker 3>enough for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more curious how you're gonna do this without a

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<v Speaker 2>stood Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this doesn't see When I tell people about this dish,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually posted it before on social media and people

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<v Speaker 3>were like, wait, you don't cook the oats.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't eat oats with that, you know, without them

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<v Speaker 4>being cooked. And so you just I don't measure as

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<v Speaker 4>you see, I don't measure anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. That's a respectable I think.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, a little bit more because it should be

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<v Speaker 3>equal amount apple and oats.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we take the chopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Almonds, and just so you guys know, she actually buy hand,

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<v Speaker 1>took a knife and just chopped the almonds.

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<v Speaker 4>I did, but it also didn't take long.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all I need.

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<v Speaker 3>Is cinnamon because that gives it the flavor that makes

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<v Speaker 3>it so good.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the orange juice, and.

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<v Speaker 5>We I've never seen this, I know, like people like

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<v Speaker 5>orange juice with oats, no way, But wait till you

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<v Speaker 5>taste it because the apple, I think it doesn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to you don't want to make it, you know, want

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<v Speaker 5>to have it swim in it, but you want a

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<v Speaker 5>definitely nice and moist.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something this is is this like culturally

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<v Speaker 1>normal in Germany?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I think it's it's actually my mom

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<v Speaker 3>made it up. It's not a typical German recipe, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's something that my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Introduced me to.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just remember that I used to always make

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<v Speaker 3>it when I just was hungry in the morning and

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<v Speaker 3>wanted something healthy and fresh, because you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks super healthy. This is it, you guys, This

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<v Speaker 2>is all all you have to do that too. It's vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's vegan, guys. I didn't even learn my first vegan this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did not even even think about the aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of being vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What was going on at the time when your mom

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<v Speaker 1>had she was making up dishes?

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<v Speaker 2>Like was she Were you guys struggling or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 3>say struggling. But we definitely were poor. We didn't grow

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<v Speaker 3>up with much and my mom never had much money.

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<v Speaker 2>Single mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad left when we when I was eight, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we never had much even before when dad was around, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>we were never.

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<v Speaker 4>A family of like eating out was like wait what.

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<v Speaker 3>We never got to eat outside or like in a

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant or something like that. So I definitely my mom

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<v Speaker 3>would always freestyle cook and do things like this, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's I think where I got it from now, as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being my having kids myself, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of my style of cooking from my mother.

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<v Speaker 4>Just whipping stuff together and then it's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's let's sample it, so no cooking. She just

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<v Speaker 1>fixed the apples with the oatmeal. Who was the oats

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<v Speaker 1>and orange juice and almonds, and it looks delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>And guys, I have just.

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<v Speaker 1>Learned how to make my first vegan dish, which you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know I'm trying to eventually switch over to vegans.

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<v Speaker 2>So and it looks very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I are you vegan. I'm not vegan, but I eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to eat healthy, you know, I don't eat

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of meat and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 4>What you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not sweet?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>You good at sugar? If you like it, doesn't eat sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also adding that my apple, I chose the

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<v Speaker 1>Granny Smith, which was sour.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what to expect I did it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like if I go sweet, but no, I would choose.

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<v Speaker 4>You could probably choose a sweeter apple.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could also add like, if you like raisins,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom used to put raisins in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't love raisins, so I always make it like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would leave it like this. Yeah, And people

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>People are like orange juice with olds.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the apple, the part of me feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mix this with a little bit of yogurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if that would mess it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know about mixing orange juice with Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you could wear that, right, There's one things for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super healthy and easy to make, and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>need much.

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<v Speaker 2>You can leave the almonds out.

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<v Speaker 4>If you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Your kids know how to make this.

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<v Speaker 3>They yeah, they absolutely do, but they you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>still make it for them just because I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't want them to hurt their fingers on this. But

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<v Speaker 6>they know how to make it. I know this dish

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<v Speaker 6>is good because I'm gonna finish it. So this is

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<v Speaker 6>a tad out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, oh yeah, See it's not for everybody. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you like me and you like something healthy in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>something quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say in this dish too. If you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of an oatmeal, this is the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to eat it.

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<v Speaker 4>See, it doesn't taste like the typical oatmeal.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't like it does not like like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, oatmeal has textures that I don't really like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could totally eat this every day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this will be my meal of choice because it's super healthy, super.

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<v Speaker 2>Different, even if you made a full breakfast and just

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<v Speaker 2>had this on the side.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy thing, the kids love it.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids at least love it, and you know you're

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<v Speaker 3>feeding your kids something good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the orange just really seals it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the crazy part. The thing that people are questioning

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<v Speaker 2>is what makes it feel that dish?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the next one, So the next one I think

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<v Speaker 3>even easier and simpler.

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<v Speaker 1>That was amazing for I think that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I actually enjoyed oatmeal one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I just go ahead and make it? This is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be the German pancake. You gonna go ahead, So stove.

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<v Speaker 2>On and she used the butterspray.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, I'm going to use the egg and the milk

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<v Speaker 3>and the sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I need to pour a little bit out because.

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<v Speaker 2>We have too much, too much flour.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm mixing it with the Yeah, you're you're We're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna use that, okay, So all we need is

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<v Speaker 3>the flour, the egg, the milk, and the sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>Mix it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>Flour egg, milk, sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>And again I'm not confiding. I'm just oh light whisk

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<v Speaker 4>yeah's good as you pour the milk.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so lazy because I always buy the she

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<v Speaker 1>made pancake mix and just add one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I never even like growing up. My mom made everything

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<v Speaker 3>from scratch. And again this is something that came from

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<v Speaker 3>home from Germany and that I brought with me once I,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we moved to New York, me and my sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have much either. What made you guys move

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<v Speaker 2>to New York? You know, music?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know what age? I was nineteen, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>My twin I have a twin sister, Jazz, who obviously

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<v Speaker 3>also was nineteen at the time, and then our oldest sister, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 3>two years older. You guys packed up together and packed

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<v Speaker 3>up and just moved to New York all.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your mom saying?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>She what made her comfortable is that we were together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was. If it would have been just

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<v Speaker 3>one of us, like would have been different. But we

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<v Speaker 3>were always together. She trusted us.

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't really concerned, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we really went to New York with nothing like

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<v Speaker 3>no plan, no, no money?

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<v Speaker 2>Really well did she did?

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<v Speaker 1>She also feel like she still had a choice in

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<v Speaker 1>it or you guys kind even came to her like

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<v Speaker 1>we're leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we we we decided we were going, and

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<v Speaker 3>she could. She wouldn't have been able to stop us

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<v Speaker 3>even if she she didn't try, but if she would

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<v Speaker 3>have said, like, no, I don't think it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>We our mind was made up, you know, to go

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<v Speaker 4>to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was a single mom with how many kids?

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<v Speaker 2>She had twins?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Oh yeah, I'm a fraternal But are

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<v Speaker 1>you fraternal or identical?

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<v Speaker 4>I am identical identical twin my sister exactly like.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, No way, So I always like here with her,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I have I have heart.

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<v Speaker 4>People always like is this at me?

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<v Speaker 2>And now were the twin?

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<v Speaker 1>So your mom had your you and your your sister

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<v Speaker 1>and who else was in the Yes, me and my

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<v Speaker 1>twin are older sister.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my mom had another child by another man

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<v Speaker 3>when I was eleven, so I have an eleven year

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<v Speaker 3>younger sister also.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was four of us, four girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, but the three of us, the three of

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<v Speaker 3>us are older sisters. We were very close, and we

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<v Speaker 3>would do everything together, and we you know, we started

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<v Speaker 3>singing together. So we were we've kind of always had

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<v Speaker 3>been a group, a singing group, and you, oh, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys were in a group. Yeah, there was no jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>or rivalry between you and your sister. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We were more like I think we wouldn't have gotten

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<v Speaker 3>into music even if if we weren't sisters, because it

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<v Speaker 3>was a whole you know, it was that whole singing

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<v Speaker 3>in harmony, all of that stuff that we would do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the nineties. Nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl groups was pop everywhere, and we just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be like them, and we just loved singing so much.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was always me and my two sisters,

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<v Speaker 3>Twin and Sophie, So Jazz and Sophie and the three

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<v Speaker 3>of us we just determined because we had already started

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<v Speaker 3>out making songs. Actually, we were signed in Germany when

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<v Speaker 3>I was fifteen to a record label BMG, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of experience, you know, being in the

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<v Speaker 3>music industry, just never in America. That sounded like such

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<v Speaker 3>a dream so far away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you were you were learning about how America

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<v Speaker 1>through television and radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, like American just you know, R and B

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<v Speaker 3>music in general wasn't made in Germany. So we were like,

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<v Speaker 3>if we want to make that kind of music, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to go to America. But that still sounded so

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<v Speaker 3>like impossible. It was like, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>in America, nobody does that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a lot of people in Germany look like you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I imagine Germany, I imagine, now this is

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<v Speaker 1>my ignorance speaking, but I would imagine more white, and

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>With mostly white, like around white people. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>we were the outsiders. And that's also one reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I never felt home there, never felt like I belonged there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if my sisters also felt it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I just always felt like this is not

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<v Speaker 4>where I belong.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? Are you mixed or are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>My mom's white? Oh, your mom's white.

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<v Speaker 4>Dad is African Senegalese. Okay, Okay, So yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 4>the different ones, you know, because we didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Look like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, now, you know, times have changed, like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>plus years later, like there is it's more multicultural in

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<v Speaker 3>Germany in general, But when I was young and in school.

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<v Speaker 3>There was maybe one other kid that was like had

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<v Speaker 3>a black parent or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But when your dad left you were eight, You said,

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on at the time?

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<v Speaker 2>What made him leave?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that just you know, he's an African African

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<v Speaker 3>man and he he was just cheating on my mom

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<v Speaker 3>obviously the whole time, and my mom was just not

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<v Speaker 3>happy with him, and she stayed with him for way

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<v Speaker 3>too long because of us, like so many women do

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<v Speaker 3>because of the children.

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<v Speaker 2>You stay together. But he was not treating my mom good.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we experienced some stuff like where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you would never want to talk to your dad again,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, just physical you know, domestic abuse and.

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<v Speaker 4>Things like that, and we would witness it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just remember one moment, especially where he hit

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<v Speaker 3>my mom so hard that she fell on top of us.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I think I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was probably eight because it was around the time

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<v Speaker 3>that she left, And from that moment on, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just so scared of.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, just scared, scared, scared.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the crazy part is I was his favorite child,

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<v Speaker 3>so he always wanted me next to him, especially during

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<v Speaker 3>the phase where he felt like my mom is going

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<v Speaker 3>to leave him. He was holding on to me always Amy.

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<v Speaker 3>He called me Ami. You know, my name's Amina, but

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<v Speaker 3>to him I was Ami Ami. He comes it with me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like he wasn't like mean saying in

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<v Speaker 3>the mean way. It was like I love you, I

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<v Speaker 3>want you with me, like you know, things are bad

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<v Speaker 3>right now. He wouldn't talk like that, but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I remember thinking in my head, like I just need

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<v Speaker 3>you right now because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Yeah, my mom was trying to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so hey ended up she ended up, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm burning this. Ah it doesn't look burn No, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not burned.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good for good.

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<v Speaker 3>See this this always takes a little longer when you

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<v Speaker 3>have at the stove on. But yeah, and so then

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<v Speaker 3>my mom ended up getting my dad out a year later.

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<v Speaker 3>Took like almost a year, felt like eternity that he

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<v Speaker 3>was still in the house refusing to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was cheating though.

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<v Speaker 4>He was, Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like telling my mom things like why

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<v Speaker 3>are you worried about that? I always come back to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know yeah that men say it not every mine.

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<v Speaker 1>When you when you went to New York, how soon

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<v Speaker 1>was it before or how soon after you moved to

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Did you end up aligning with love and

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop?

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, way, way, way, way later.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first and my first fifteen years in New

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<v Speaker 3>York were just you know, on the grind, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make it in music, me and my sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, first fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or like at least let's say ten Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm totally dripping ten years. So from two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>two to twenty twelve, me and my sisters were just

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<v Speaker 3>like trying, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, always.

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<v Speaker 4>Making music together.

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<v Speaker 3>Got signed to diff GM Records in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and six, then you know, we got dropped

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<v Speaker 3>from the label. Then we got signed again, just me

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<v Speaker 3>and my twin.

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<v Speaker 2>What made them drop, you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>This is ready by the way, you just need to

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<v Speaker 3>send him in on it. But they actually we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get didn't get dropped from Gestion. It was like we

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<v Speaker 3>asked to be released from the label because they were

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<v Speaker 3>just holding us hostage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That, okay, friend, not mess up here.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were just not Our album never came out,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were signed.

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<v Speaker 4>We get signed the same year that Chris Neo Arehanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say that was the air that year.

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<v Speaker 3>When nobody knew who they were and of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>we actually did a lot of showcases with them, with Neo,

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<v Speaker 3>Rihanna and Chris and we did like small little radio

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<v Speaker 3>tours throughout the nations and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Were all new artists. And then Black Butterfly was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the only group, our group that didn't really get

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<v Speaker 4>that big break.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they all blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, had big but they were putting a lot into

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<v Speaker 1>them because I remember at that time I owned a

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<v Speaker 1>magazine and they were like pushing Neo pushing.

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<v Speaker 3>We felt that way, you know, aren't they They're forgetting

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<v Speaker 3>about us, right, you know, they would probably disagree and

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<v Speaker 3>say other things.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of politics involved.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we were signed to a joint venture label with

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<v Speaker 3>Russell Simmons and La Reid involved, and everybody had different

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<v Speaker 3>opinions on what type of group we should be. Russell

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<v Speaker 3>Simmons wanted us to be more urban and hip hop,

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<v Speaker 3>and La Reid wanted us to be a big pop group,

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<v Speaker 3>and so then he kind of like let let Russell

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<v Speaker 3>kind of decide what direction he would take us in.

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<v Speaker 3>So we ended up putting out the song called bad

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<v Speaker 3>Girl with Fabulous and actually before that came Rockabye. It

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<v Speaker 3>was our first single on Deaf Jam and it was

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good little run, like it was played

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio, like we were so excited. We were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, thinking this could possibly blow up like crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>and it did to a certain level, but it never became.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was your pockets looked like at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>So you were you were playing on radio, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>still I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling you, I was a broker, being signed to a

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<v Speaker 3>major label then being just on the grind by myself,

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<v Speaker 3>and people always think, oh, he signed to a label,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I mean you get an advance, but

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe our advance at the time wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 3>and it lasted maybe six months, and then after that

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<v Speaker 3>you still signed for two three more years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, not making money.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were broke a lot while being signed to

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<v Speaker 3>major record labels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I heard Pink was like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>at some point she went broken. She was pumping gas

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<v Speaker 1>and they I think La Read ended up being like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta pull her off the street. She was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't give me money. I'm a survive exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We were, you know, it wasn't the death Grim deal.

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<v Speaker 3>But I remember after the Deaf Grim deal, we got

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<v Speaker 3>signed to Jay Records. Me and my twin our oldest

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<v Speaker 3>sister had left the group at this point, but we

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<v Speaker 3>were signed at J Records, and every month we were like.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to make the call?

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<v Speaker 3>We always had to call our you know that we

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<v Speaker 3>were signed to Projection Slash Management under Jay Records, So

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<v Speaker 3>every month we would be like, who's gonna call and ask.

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<v Speaker 2>For the rent money? It always had to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of us like and asked for the rent.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we ended up getting evicted too in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 4>New York. We ended up getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Evictad So why was the deal built like that where

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<v Speaker 1>they were just giving you a check for your rent?

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<v Speaker 3>They gave us a check in the beginning of when

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<v Speaker 3>you signed the yeah record your minimum guarantee and then

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<v Speaker 3>you get some money. It was I don't even remember

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<v Speaker 3>the amount, but it wasn't a big advance.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, now they took on a million dollar advances

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So our advance, like I said, after like about six

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<v Speaker 3>months maybe a year, ran out and we had nothing

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<v Speaker 3>and we were yet we were signed, working on albums

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<v Speaker 3>and flying out here to La to record with Tank

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<v Speaker 3>and different people.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, we were literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Signed for three years just recording and they never had

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<v Speaker 3>seemed to have a plan to release her.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you guys got released. You're smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get released. Now what were you working any side hustles

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<v Speaker 1>while all this is going on or yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So eventually, you know, we were like, Okay, we gotta

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<v Speaker 4>do something. We gotta pay our bills. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we were living in a small railroad.

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<v Speaker 3>Apartment in green Point, Brooklyn, very small three of us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was me, my twin sister, and our one of

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<v Speaker 3>our best friends that we grew up in Germany with

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<v Speaker 3>Esther is her name, and she was kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>our personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I don't turn it off. So she was like

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<v Speaker 3>our personal manager whom made best friend. And so it

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<v Speaker 3>was the three of us living there and that was

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<v Speaker 3>the time when we always had to ask for.

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<v Speaker 2>The rent and we were signed.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just so crazy, and I just even remember

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<v Speaker 3>one moment that sticks out that was so crazy because

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<v Speaker 3>we would be around like Russell Simmons and jay Z

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<v Speaker 3>and all the people like we would go to these

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<v Speaker 3>major events, be next to the biggest you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest stars all the time, just in these one side

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<v Speaker 3>of our world was that, and then we would come

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<v Speaker 3>home and have nothing like and it was so just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what word I want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just so weird. And we would even go

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<v Speaker 3>to like Russell Simmons's house he was married to kimoor

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Lie Simmons at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a golden toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just it's just like little things that you remember, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So the golden toilet on one side, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>come home and you don't have money to buy a

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<v Speaker 3>toilet paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, wow, yeah, that's uh. I remember when I was struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I would always have this thing. It'd be like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd either have a car, or you'd have.

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<v Speaker 2>No gas money or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always like it was like you had the car,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't have the gas money, or you had

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<v Speaker 1>the gas buddy, but you didn't have the car. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's kind of what you're saying. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even afford the toilet paper. So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do to survive those types? Did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>take out jobs?

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I ended up taking a job.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, at that point we had already

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<v Speaker 3>been signed again for three years and nothing was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>We were like, okay, we were learning that being signed

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<v Speaker 3>really doesn't mean any day that you have money or

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It just means that somebody decided to maybe even sign

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<v Speaker 3>you as a.

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<v Speaker 4>Text writer whatever in the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, you were just signed and.

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<v Speaker 4>You are put to work.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I found myself so much

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<v Speaker 3>just working on myself. That's why, you know, I'm thankful

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<v Speaker 3>for it going that way, because it made me just

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<v Speaker 3>work on myself more. But yeah, we were broke and

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up going on Craigslist and finding a job

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<v Speaker 3>as a singer. I was determined to not find a

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<v Speaker 3>job like a regular job or something I hate. I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do something I love. I would go on Craigslist,

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<v Speaker 3>like look for singer jobs, okay, And then so I

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<v Speaker 3>ended up finding the job that I then did for

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<v Speaker 3>like four years, right before Love and Hip Hop. I

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<v Speaker 3>also met Peter Gans at this job, my baby dad

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<v Speaker 3>and her ex husband. So I worked at the Village

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 3>Underground in New York as a singer in the band.

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>He hired me immediately. The owner Noam Dorman's shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to he was amazing. He helped me so much, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I kind of a new era began for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of when the group with my sister

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<v Speaker 3>kind of faded out a little bit, because now I

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<v Speaker 3>was busy with something just for me, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>was busy with other things that something that was fun

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<v Speaker 3>for me, making me money.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like almost like.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like school for me in a way, because

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<v Speaker 3>I learned being on stage. You know, all these years

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<v Speaker 3>being signed, we didn't perform much.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't really guys are just in the studio. We

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<v Speaker 2>were Yeah, and when you were in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>With these celebrities like Russell and Jay, did you how

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<v Speaker 1>were you able? Were you able to even maximize or

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<v Speaker 1>did you feel like imposter syndrome where like maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't belong so you were just happy to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the room.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we were always happy to Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>once you've come into a big deaf DYM office and

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<v Speaker 3>you see your own picture big, like on the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>wall inside there, like on the twenty eighth floor.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember we coming up there and it's us like

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<v Speaker 4>everybody believed.

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed like everybody believed that Black Butterfly was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the next, you know, big thing, and then

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't happen that way. Everybody's looking at like

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<v Speaker 3>who's to blame? Right, Yeah, And I just remember like

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<v Speaker 3>that one when we dropped our second single, because the

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 3>album ever came out, but when we dropped our single single,

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<v Speaker 3>like we went into Jay Z's office one time because

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<v Speaker 3>apparently he asked to see Black Butterfly, and so we

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 3>went in there and he gave a great advice to

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<v Speaker 3>me that I always I keep mentioning it because it

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.959
<v Speaker 3>was just great, like he just wanted to know how

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<v Speaker 3>we feel about, you know, everything that was going on

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 3>at the label. And at the time, I was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like feeling a little like a puppet, like they

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 3>were just telling me what to do and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just doing it, but I wasn't really happy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like a lot of artists.

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<v Speaker 1>That Neil expressed that if you ever watched his interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this first record, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like they tell you what to do, if

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 3>you have anything to say against it, you're hard to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with.

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 4>You don't listen.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 3>And we tried to just be quiet and just do

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<v Speaker 3>what they say. But yet everyone was telling us to

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 3>do something different. So this person was saying, just just

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 3>just do what you're being asked to do, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the next person would say, like jay Z

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>in this moment, he was like, you gotta be more

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<v Speaker 3>like Kanye and stand up for what you want. You

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 3>can't put anything out there that you don't believe in.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I loved it because I felt that I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but how we supposed to do that?

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 2>We know what year was this, Kanye? But Kanye was

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<v Speaker 2>it out? You well, he was out.

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>He was just wait, wait, Kanye, don't start to drop.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>He's dropped in two thousand.

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 4>He was already.

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, people knew of him, but he wasn't Like.

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<v Speaker 1>When did the college drop out come out? I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but so you're he was like, be like, be very

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>vocal about what you want. But it's interested that Jay

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<v Speaker 1>would say that I have a huge jay Z fan.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>There's a huge jay Z paint again by lobby.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this, it's easier for a man,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, you could correct me to speak up

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>in this male dominated industry than a woman. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you would have came in that room and said, yeah, Jay,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm the shakes. If you ain't nothing, what would what

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think they would have said? And I'm not

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna say Jay because Jay's you know, my favorite, But

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, in your position, did you feel

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>like as a woman you could be like yay.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>That's why I felt like it was so contradicting because

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I loved what he was saying. I was like, yeah,

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to be more like that, but they're not

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>letting us.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if we do that, then we're being called.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 3>This and that, and like it was like a heart

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>It was totally. It was stressful being fine. You always

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 3>try to please everyone else, and especially.

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>When you're young, because you're like, I don't want to

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>blow this. I'm like that with the black effects. Sometimes

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want to mess up, and then

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they realize I'm not that great

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>yep or whatever. But I'm just gonna I want to

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<v Speaker 1>try this past before.

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<v Speaker 3>I get cold, exactly. You know, my first it might

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>need sugar on top. I put sugar on top. Let

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>me see if I put enough sugar, it's probably not sweet.

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>There's enough sugar in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Really you want a sweeter you know where did you syrup?

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>You can?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I used to eat it just like this,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 3>more cinnamon and sugar, like just sprinkle some on top

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, you know, the only difference really is

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>because you can use syrup, is that it's not fluffy

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>and it's more like a crape.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge fan of grapes. Boom. If I

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<v Speaker 2>choose between this and a crape, I would choose this.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Mm.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is Philly. It's missing sugar, but mmm.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 4>I normally don't like sweet suff but this has to

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>be a little sweeter.

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Well the sugar and chocolate. Yeah, I think it's fine

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>with just sugar. Yeah. This is not considered vegan right.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Now because it you know, it has milk egg.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 4>It's probably the opposite of vegan.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. This is it's not bad. Yeah, this

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>is not bad.

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>This is almost like it reminds me of like corn meal.

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's a pancake, doesn't it.

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>In contrast with the apples and olds, it's like this

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 3>is more fillings.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Eat these together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would make both of it like most like

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of days. This would be my breakfast like

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>this that both together, we can eat breakfast together.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Just add a little add a little bacon, We're good.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Ah yeah, yeah.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I've never been a big you know, meat for breakfast either, but.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it just needs like something salty, salty

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>on that.

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>No, like oh, apple, the pancake like you just right, No,

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you're right.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 3>You can definitely have like sausage with it or something,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 3>and if you wanted to, you could put the apples

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and on top of this.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that would be I think that's that would be

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>how I do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to always eat this also with apple sauce.

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<v Speaker 4>That's also good. That's how it. Yeah, this is great.

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>It's feeling affordable, and I liked that most of the

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>ingredients are typically in your house.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what made me start eating it so much because

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>we always had flour.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>How hard was it for you to come up with

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a dish for today's show? Not so hard.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 3>It just this stuck out because I remember the times,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, the times in Brooklyn when we were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to live on a budget and not having much money,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and then growing up in Germany and my mom always

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>making it for us, so it stuck out.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 4>It's stuck out. And you know what's crazy? This recipes

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 4>in my I have a cookbook.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And this is in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, speaking of cookbooks, this will be added to the

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Eating Well Broke Cookbook as your dish. This will be

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.479
<v Speaker 1>so it will be in your cookbook, but we are

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be adding it as your signature disc along

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of other dishes that people a when

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you're broke. I should probably tell you that sooner, but

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you'll be okay with it being in the book.

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm okay with it now.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Now that you've fed me amazingly well on budget, after

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>experiencing your record label fiascos in your music industry, you

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>start working at this club. Yes, this is where you

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<v Speaker 1>meet your future ex husband.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And so tell me is that kind of

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>where where did love and hip hop and Peter Gunns

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>come and change the traje?

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, first of all, like I was so blooming

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 3>at the time because I didn't realize how unhappy I

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>really was in these record deals. That one I was

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>actually doing what I love, which is singing on a

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>stage every single night, like and making money.

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 4>That it was.

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Really like making me, giving me so much excitement just

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>every day, like going to work.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I loved working there and singing, and I was around

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the greatest musicians like you could imagine. And apparently someone

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 3>named Peter Guns also loved that scene, that live music

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 3>scene in New York. He would just be there and

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>hang out every night, and everybody knew who he was.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>And I just remember he was always standing by the

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 3>entrance of the club with shades on, and I would

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 3>just be like, why you're wearing shades in this dark club?

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I thought it was kind of like weird, but yeah,

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>we You know, it took a couple of years for

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 3>him and I to connect because even at the in

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of me working there, I had a boyfriend,

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>one of the guys in the band.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I was with him for like a year and a half.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 3>He was also friends with Peter Guns, and we were

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>all just a big family and everybody knew, you know,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 3>everybody was like friends with everybody, and it was like

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of organically started like hanging out with Peter in

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 3>a group.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Like so then when I broke up with my then boyfriend,

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Peter had already kind of been a friend, yeah along,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, we had hung out a bunch of times,

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 3>but I never looked at him like I like him.

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah oh like.

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>That's that's why it was so weird that it happened

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 3>the way it did, because I I would in the

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the first two years, I would look at Peter

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, yeah, okay, Like first of all, he always

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 3>got different women like Superwoman, like not my not my thing.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 3>But then you know, as I get to know him,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>we just became really cool friends. And that's what I

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 3>always say. Me and Peter started as friends, and I

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>just knowing or seeing how he moves with women never

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 3>really made me interest, didn't anything else but just being

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 3>friends with him. However, that that didn't work out like

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 3>that because we ended.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Up Actually how did that happen? You guys?

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, y'all fell in love and then how did

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>love and hip hop end up in that?

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what?

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 4>It was a timing thing.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Me and Peter probably had like dated for about almost

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 3>six months, and one of his friends was Rich Dollars,

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>who already was on Love and Hip Hop. So me

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 3>and Peter would always hang out and do fun stuff.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>We would go to the parks and we would go

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to the movies and just do fun things. And one

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>day he was like, let's go buy this set my

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 3>boys filming. So we went by the set, like you know,

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 3>they were filming love and hip Hop and he was

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>just doing a kind of a cameo sitting in at dinner.

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 3>It was like a dinner scene and I was just

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 3>there watching. I was not involved. But that's the night

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that it all started, because you know, the producers started

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 3>talking to Peter. He's once he said, this is a

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>meaning my wife, but I got a girlfriend.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Two The producers were like, the next day, I got

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 4>a call.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>But wait, so you guys were dating a couple months

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:35.919
<v Speaker 2>and you guys got married.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 4>We got married after dating for like six months.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 3>So we started dating summer of twenty twelve. We get

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 3>married February twenty thirteen.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>But he said he has a wife and a girlfriend.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But did you know he had a girlfriend.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I knew that he had Tara, the mother of his sons,

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 3>that he still he was still living with.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he was still living with He was well married.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 3>He was still living with Tara, but he said, you know,

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>they're not together.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So so he would sleep at her house, but be like.

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 4>At my house every night.

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 3>So he slept me every night with me, maybe one

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 3>night out of the week, he wouldn't so what he

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>spend his days with her? He would during the day

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>probably be with yeah, with her and then and then he.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Was with me every night, okay, and then and then.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>But so you can and I.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Knew at this point, you know, he didn't break up

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.439
<v Speaker 3>with her yet. That's why I wanted to do love

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 3>and hip Hop because I knew if we do love

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 3>a hip hop, she will finally know what she needs

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 3>to know.

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so she didn't know about you. No, that's the

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>fucked up part.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>She didn't know about you, because yeah, but why did

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>he ever tell you why he proposed to you even

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>though he had a girlfriend?

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 3>No, you know, the way we got married, I have

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 3>to say that because it's it's big. The way we

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 3>got married was more like out of desperation, because.

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, I always say.

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 3>This, like we had a real relationship, we were really

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 3>in love. We got married because of love. But we

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 3>got married for a reason, and that is because Peter

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't want me to go back to Germany. Okay, so

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 3>if it wasn't for that, we would have never gotten married.

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Got it, got it? So he wanted it.

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Like when people say, oh, fake marriage, you just married

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>for the fav that's not true because we were actually

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>dating for real, in love, you know, like we were

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 3>not faking a relationship for me to get Obviously obviously

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people do that.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 2>My brother did that.

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he didn't want me to have to go back

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 3>to Germany. I was stressed out, and he was like,

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I want you here, I want to be with you. You know,

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 3>I would just marry you.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>That was it.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's how it went.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 2>So then, so then is your first time meeting terror

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>on Love and Hip Hop? Yeah?

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, no, she's gonna hate me

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 4>if I say this wrong.

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I met her at the nightclub that I'm peter ed.

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>However, I didn't know that was his main girlfriend that

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>has been with him for thirteen years.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, So are you guys good friends now?

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 3>And we are now years later now we finally had

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>a place where we talked to each other. We like, yeah,

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I can say I can say the word friend now.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 3>It took a long time, but we were friends.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>When you look back at that whole situation, do you

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>think that. Do you have any regrets on however they

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>worked out or if they're, if they're if if they're,

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>if you could.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Go back, what would you change?

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Even though I wasn't the responsible one, I have the

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 3>regret that we went into doing Love and Hip Hop

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 3>without tyr or knowing anything. You know, that was definitely wrong,

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 3>even though Peter is the one that should have made

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>sure he doesn't drag her on a show, and you know,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 3>without knowing what, you know, what was really going on.

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>The producers didn't even prep her for it.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 3>They loved it. They loved that she didn't know. Oh

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 3>my god, you know, they don't care about nothing.

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, were you guys making good money at the time

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>during that show.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 4>The first season? No, not at all.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 3>It was more like I was, you know, honestly, I

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:04.959
<v Speaker 3>had two reasons for going on Love and hip Hop.

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 3>The main reason was, Okay, finally people are going to

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>see me as the artist. You know, Love and hip

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Hop is about music. I can finally show case who

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I am. I can play my instruments and millions of

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 3>people going to see me. That was my number one reason.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Number two was I was in this situation that wasn't good.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't comfortable.

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I needed you know, Peter was telling me so many lies,

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 3>constantly saying, Oh, I'm gonna tell her, I'm going to

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 3>tell her.

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I knew if we did the show, it was finally

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 4>going to come out, and.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>That's all I wanted.

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted him to, you know, tell her what

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 3>he did and without loving if we would have never

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 3>did Love and Hip Hop.

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you would have ever told Tara anything.

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>There is himy War is still together?

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I know from what I know, but I can't say, okay,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>but are you still with him? No?

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, no, No, we divorced.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Were you know?

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 4>We not at all?

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, you guys were married for how long? Man together?

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Three years?

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Married for probably six because the divorce took like three years.

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 3>But I moved from New York in twenty sixteen, and

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 3>since then, you know, we were done. Like I probably

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 3>was still hooked on him for a little bit of time.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>It took me a long time to get over him.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Long.

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you guys had kids together.

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 4>We had it, yeah, and I was pregnant when I

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 4>left two.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh you you left at that time because I

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>remember the last time I had seen U on TV.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>You had like Tar had said she was pregnant. I

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember we were pregnant the same time.

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So did she end up having hers? Yeah, So you

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>guys have kids that are.

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 3>Like same age seven Gunner is seven and Bronx and seven,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 3>my daughter and her son.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>And then the kids. Now you guys are friends, so

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 2>your kids all, oh.

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there they love each other.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 3>And I'm so happy we were able to come to

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>like a place like where we don't blame each other.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, she may still feel some way.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 3>About what happened back then, but we have like kind

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 3>of forgiven each other and we kind of more relate

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 3>to one another because we were both sold this. You know,

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 3>he was kind of like doing the same thing to

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 3>both of us.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I felt like at some point it was like,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>even though he was the causer of the mayhem, he

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of sat back and watched you guys.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he kind of a part of him enjoyed.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that, Yeah, I don't know enjoyed, but I

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 3>know that he was helpless.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 2>He did not know what to do.

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 3>He had made this big mess and it was fucked

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 3>up and it was just bad, and it seemed like

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the world hated him for it, and he just didn't

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 3>know how to make it right.

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't no making it right. He couldn't make it right.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, were you two the only one in the triangle?

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Or were there other women?

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm I would almost bet on my kids.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>It was Yeah, there was definitely others, but we were

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 3>the main.

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 2>We were the main of the Yeah.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, it displayed on the show and everything, But

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 3>he definitely had other you.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Know, while he was living with me, we were living

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:02.959
<v Speaker 4>in Youngers in New York.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I had just had a baby. Obviously he was still

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 3>going between me and Tara. He also had others in

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 3>the background. I know because I found out some things.

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it wasn't just us.

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But but I noticed, You're like, he was living with

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you or he was living with Tara?

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Did he was he?

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Were you guys always the breadwinners or did he bread

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>winding too?

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 6>You know?

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Once we started did Love and Hip Hop for multiple seasons,

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 3>we were all kind of in the same boat. Like

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 3>it started being like it just was one of the

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 3>biggest storylines ever. It was, and at the time it

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>was also the ratings were crazy because of us and

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 3>like definitely, if you talked love and hip hop New York,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, stands out is like what stands out is

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 3>obviously Cardi b And then like our stuff. Yeah, like

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 3>at least as far as triangles and love like messiness goes.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean that was like when you were watching Nessis

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 3>and that's all you wanted to see. But were you, guys,

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 3>were you was Peter stepping up financially for you guys

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:06.800
<v Speaker 3>or were you guys holding down the fort.

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 4>Too where he could? You know, he is a giver.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 3>He gives, He lives for his kids as far as

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:17.439
<v Speaker 3>like you know, when he got it, his kids are good. Yeah,

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 3>but because he has ten children, he's not always in

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 3>the best position to like take care of everything. And

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>even at the time where he was living with me,

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 3>he was also having to help Tower with you know,

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>with whatever rent and all that bills, and he was

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 3>not able to cover everything for everybody. So he was

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 3>doing it as much as he could.

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>But so now as a woman being a single mom providing,

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>now the whole world knows you, what are you thinking? Like,

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Like how are you healing and taking care of yourself?

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like if I was in your shoes.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>There would be so many conflicting emotions from you know,

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 1>outside opinions to how I see myself, how I ended

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>up in this position. You know, even you and Tara. Thankfully,

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear that you guys have this bomber.

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>You guys can kind of be like, oh, yeah, I

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a shit show, you know.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I wish more.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Women kind of like, you know, like when my husband

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>cheated on me, I wish the side chicks would just

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like at least reach out. Yeah, and not in not

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>in a vulgar way, but just reach out. And you're like, look,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you know this, dude, Oh boy, it's telling me this.

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, we do have this type of relationship. Do

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to compare notes? Not like I'm gonna take

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:34.919
<v Speaker 1>your man or I'm gonna be the side chick, because

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the side chick the side chicks are like,

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like there there's confusion and

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the loyalty or I don't know how the side conversations go.

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 2>But a part of me is like, yo, pro sweet

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>woman to woman like.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely, and I which is so crazy to say,

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 3>I was the side chick, but it was also the

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 3>white Yeah, so it was so weird the position I

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 3>was in. And I just remember I always wanted to

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 3>do that and he would always somehow stop me. Yeah,

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you know until that scene in Love and Hip of

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 3>where I was the one that brought her the news,

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 3>like I because he just wouldn't do it, and he

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 3>kept saying, don't worry, i'll do it, I'll do it,

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 3>and then he just wouldn't. And at one point I

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, that's it, I will tell her, and oh yes.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was, especially because we were filming the show.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 4>It was on camera, and it was it was just

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 4>he was like, I wanted to tell her in private.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you didn't. Yeah, you never did. You never

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>found the time.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Well after Loving Hip Hop taped and you moved to La,

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, new beginning life started.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 2>What was your pockets looking like?

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Fine?

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 3>It was good enough for me to have to worry about.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I was able to get me an apartment, like

0:46:56.400 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 3>a nice apartment. I had my car, I had everything

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I needed. I was pregnant, I had my one year old,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't concerned about.

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God, I got it.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, I gotta make money because I would have

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 3>been good for for some time, like I was good

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 3>for about probably it a year before I had to

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 3>think about a year.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now it's yeah, you.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Know what a one year old like when I had

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>my baby, Like a year to me of being good

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 1>is still like freak out able, I think, especially because

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have someone to call and be like, yo,

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>can you cover my rent?

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, it is still freaking out.

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And then if you're pregnant, but you were also still

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>in love too.

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, I was.

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely it was hard, so it was probably one of

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:38.800
<v Speaker 3>the heart it was. I always say it's the hardest

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 3>thing I ever had to do is leave that situation

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 3>alone and leave that man alone and really really let

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it go.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 4>Took two years.

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, like you said, it is freakoutable

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 3>if you think about it. Okay, I have a year,

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 3>but then I don't know what's next.

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 2>And where was your money from love and hip hop? Yeah? Okay.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 3>The only reason that I wasn't freaking out it's because

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 3>my whole life has been that way. You know, I

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 3>was used to it. I never knew I was never stable.

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>My whole life has been a whole grind, like trying

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 3>to figure it out. And I have to say even now,

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not ashamed to say, like you still

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 3>have to figure out what's next. You know, you're trying

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 3>to build up things like and I'm forty now and

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm a mom and I'm a single mom, and I

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>still make my music, which I'm so proud of and

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 3>still so passionate about, but it's not enough.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>To live the life that I feel like I So

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 2>how do you survive?

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Work wise?

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Are you?

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have a couple of different things, like

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 3>a few different things that I'm also doing some fitness,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 3>like I'm studying to the yoga instructor. I'm very passionate

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>about that about yoga. And I have my books. I

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 3>still have my music, which I do make money with.

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 3>It's just not the amount that I would like. Yeah,

0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 3>of course, but I make money with my music, you know, performances, gigging.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm a musician, so I you know, I gig here

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:05.720
<v Speaker 3>and there.

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>And you get paid to do appearances still or not.

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I get paid to do appearances, not as much as

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>it was when when we were on Love and obviously

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 3>you get booked all the time when you're on TV,

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 3>and now it's been years since I was on TV,

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's like you don't get booked as much. So

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 3>it's still like I'm still grinding out here, you know what.

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Like as a single mom, how were you able to

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>handle it? I guess with the two young the babies

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>being younger because now they're older, But like, were you

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>crying at all?

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Or were you you know, the first two years of

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 3>moving to La having a newborn and a one year

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 3>old two year old?

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was crying.

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 3>All the time, Like where was this when she was

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 3>in Germany? She had moved back to Germany way.

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>So you were really on her.

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I was all by myself.

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 3>And even looking back, it's like wow, I look at

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 3>it from the outside and it's more of a wow

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 3>factor than when you were in it. When I was

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 3>in it, it was like, it's just what it is.

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I took it day by day, and

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 3>I just know that I was mostly heartbroken more than

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 3>feeling like like defeated by life. Like it was more

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 3>like heartbreak that I really had to heal from. Like

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I said, it took me two years once I healed.

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 4>From a heartbreak. I really wasn't.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 3>I felt so powerful and like I can do anything

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 3>and so good about life again and all those things.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever date again?

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm currently in a relationship.

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Is it a health Is it healthy now? Yeah?

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 3>It's I'm learning so much because I don't have, you know,

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the issues that I've had in the past with men,

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 3>which always kind of related to other women. Yeah, cheating, lies,

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't have that issue. It's so relaxed with that

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 3>that that I'm learning that there's other issues that you

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 3>can have in relationships, you know, Like I never knew that.

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.280
<v Speaker 4>I always thought all I want is that someone.

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't lie and cheat, and I'm the only one

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I have that now.

0:50:58.800 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>But it's still not perfect.

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's it's different and it's it's so many

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 3>good things that I'm so thankful for that I never

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 3>believed that it's possible because I hate.

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Thought, oh man, cheat and all men do this well.

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, now when I look at men, I look

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 1>at them differently. I'm like, Okay, Like, especially today's age,

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I think guys are like more like if a girl

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sleep with them on the within date three or whatever,

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like stub bars, and I'm like, well, did we mess

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>up as when the women?

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Are we not setting enough boundaries? Or like why the bar?

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like men it should have been women are

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the pickers or what have you? And we we have

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>so much more power than I even knew we had.

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know women were so powerful till I had

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a kid.

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's the same way I feel.

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I would like I hate when I hear men

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>say I would die for my kid.

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, well, why don't you try living for

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 2>your kids.

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you try like putting down the alcohol, putting

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.399
<v Speaker 1>down the bitches, and like actually living for your kid.

0:51:57.880 --> 0:51:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I can't stand when a dude will say I would

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>die for my murder for my kid. We'll go out

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>there and get a job.

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 2>For your kid.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you.

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying because I promise you, Amina,

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>if your back was against the wall and you love

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>singing and you love all these things, and you had

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>to go work at Costco to put some food in

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 1>your kid's mouth, I guarantee you you'll be saying paper plastic.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>It's same for me. But we don't have to go

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>out there and say I would die for my kid. No,

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>because every day we wake up, we make a constant

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>choice to live, even on a day that you think

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 1>about quitting on life, Like you know, heartbreak to me

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>is the most painful thing ever. And if you ever

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think about giving up on life, you're like, as a mom,

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, who the fuck is going to take

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>care of my kid? If do I even have a

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 1>plan in place if I were to be gone? No,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>oh I don't have that plan. Then I got to

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>stay here every day and wake up and fight the

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>good fight. But I commend you as a woman for

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>going through everything you did publicly and even though you

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>may have been the side check wife or whatever the

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>end goal was, like you kept pressuring this Dudede tell

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 1>his girl.

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 4>The truth and on it from the very beginning.

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 2>It's good.

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>It's good to inside too, because you know, sometimes we

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>look at the side chick like, well, why are you

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>in the dark so much? But I remember when I

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>found out about my husband's side chick. She was like

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in the closet for like years with him, and they

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>were like going back and forth on text, and I

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was just like, the fuck are you in the closet

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>in the years for.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:18.439
<v Speaker 2>This fool, Like you know what I'm saying.

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 3>No, I totally approach it differently too, Like because of that,

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, I know what it's.

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Like to be be like hidden.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 3>It's one of my requirements now anyone to date, Like

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend now knows we've been through that. Like I

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 3>like I one of my requirements now is like I

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 3>have to be posted on social media.

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeh, it's crazy.

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Some women like, nah, you know that's going to destroy

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the relationship. You got to you know, keep stuff private. No,

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a requirement for me if you are exclusively dating

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 3>me and we are in a serious relationship, that you

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 3>showed me off, display me, you know, to the world.

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's also like it'll I say, women, if we're

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, we got we have the same way.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>The guy has to feel like the king. The woman

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>has to feel like a queen period period, point blank.

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But I have seen like my husband was posting pictures

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and videos of me like every day, and the side

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>chicks would be like in the DMS, like, oh, you

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>celebrated your one year wedding anniversary. Can we meet up

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 1>and I hook up with you and be like, oh,

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 1>these chicks don't care.

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't care if you're married or not.

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm aware. Like when I say like I need

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 4>to be displayed, it's like.

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's for you to queen, not.

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Because it's gonna stop him from you know, I know

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 3>that men can do what they want no matter how

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>much pictures of me are on his basis.

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like it's it's a selfish decision.

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I I'm in a very toxic situation now, but I

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>will say that like I'm taking my time through it,

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.439
<v Speaker 1>and like being able to meet with other single moms

0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>or meeting becoming a mom has brought me more closer

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to I feel like to women, more respect towards women

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever had before.

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>But I also look.

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>At men like way different, Like the way the game

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is played now is not you know.

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 4>And it's I have to say.

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Me and my current boyfriend, he complains about it because

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>he's like, I don't.

0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Deserve that, you know, because I do.

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 3>Also he's like, your whole view of men is is

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 3>different because of your past, not me.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 4>But then I say to him like, yeah, but.

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 2>You are men.

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'm not damn like we have this all

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 4>the time.

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like he thinks it's unfair because I've come out

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 3>of this such a different person, stronger. I don't allow nothing,

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 3>like I don't allow any kind of you know.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm so much more.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 3>My standards are different, Like my boundaries are set and

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.959
<v Speaker 3>I am just not to be played with now, which

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I love for me.

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 4>I love that I've become this way. I feel better

0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:58.240
<v Speaker 4>this way.

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 2>When you see like a red flag. So I used

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to see a.

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Red flag pointed out to my girlfriend in the beginning

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of whenever I dated, Oh man, I saw that as

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a red flag, and I would ignore it. I saw

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a post somewhere somewhere something said, when you see a

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>red flag and you ignore it, that is the same

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>red flag that you will leave in the end for Yeah,

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's true. So now I'm like, red flag, yeah, but

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you know me too.

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 3>But I then think about it and like realize that.

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, red flags, of course are different from like issues,

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 3>but it's never gonna It's never perfect.

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never seen a perfect matter of fact, I

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 1>know relationships that look perfect from the.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Outside and I'm like, they're not happy.

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what slowed down my process of

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:48.240
<v Speaker 1>leaving my husband is like whether I can deal with everything.

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.399
<v Speaker 2>But right now what I am learning on right now?

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Married or not?

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I still consider myself single because I don't have a

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.240
<v Speaker 1>counterpart that respects me or enough.

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 2>But what I will say is I need to focus

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 2>on my own.

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Happiness absolutely and just stay in that. What does my

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>happiness look like with or without somebody there, and whether

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm married or not, That's where my head's at, like,

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think what I can learn from men are

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is that they focus on their needs. Yeah. Women, it's

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like we're designed to put the mask on the person

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>next to us before ourselves. Now, I'm like, you know what,

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like when it comes to my child who is helpless,

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you cannot wipe her butt or feed herself, she is

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the person that will go before me. But as far

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>as everybody else, absolutely not. But I am terrified to

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>date with a child.

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 4>How is that hard?

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 3>It is very hard because you know they always come first,

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 3>like the kids, like my girls, they come first, like

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 3>you just said, like even before.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Me nothing else.

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Though I am also at a place which none of

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 3>my past relationships were like this, where I actually do

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 3>put me first now, even within the relationship, which sometimes

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 3>causes some you know, it just also caused some because

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 3>they call yourselfish. You know, I've been called selfish a

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 3>lot since I've gotten out of this.

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 2>If you learn from men, that's what they're doing.

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Selfish, it's not selfish if it's you know, if you

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 3>if it's.

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 4>It's necessary sometimes yeah, you know, to put yourself first

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean you're selfish.

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And I had to just have to stick by that

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 3>even in my current relationship, Like I always have to

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 3>make sure that I'm I'm good and I put myself first,

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter what anybody thinks.

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, I'm still still growing that past that mountain. I'm

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine. I'm like almost there. I feel like once

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I turned forty.

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 4>It's a rat. I'm just saying about the same dude.

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 2>We're in the valley. We could do a well. My

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 2>baby's young, she's only well she's too but she I

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>think she's a teenager. Really, you know, I.

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Have almost teenager. She's nine. My daughter is nine.

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw eleven year old that looked like a teenager

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I thought she was sixty Like boobs is.

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I didn't even have boobs.

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like eight seventeen or something else. I know,

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like, uh, they're putting hormones in the food.

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Is your daughter hasn't hippibrity era?

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 3>No, but she acts like a teenager for sure. Yeah,

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 3>like her look why she probably looks her age, but no,

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 3>she acts.

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I think mine just acts. I'm I haven't. I had

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 1>never been around a baby. I haven't arrived very late.

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But I will say, like, like the more she like

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>sings her alphabet's, her her numbers or something, I'm like,

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like what happened? Like she wasn't even talking a couple

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:35.479
<v Speaker 1>of months. That's everybody's saying. And I kind of hate

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the cleanness. But then my friends are like, you're gonna

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>miss that shit true, and I'm like, like I haven't.

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I have like we make promises me and my daughters

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 3>like promise me that because we like to be physical

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 3>and cuddle, and that's how I want each other so much.

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it's so important.

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I always say that on social media, like give your

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 3>kids physical love, hug them, you know, so I do

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 3>that a lot with mine and I always have like

0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 3>made this promise with them, Please promise me that you

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 3>will still let me do this when you're sixteen eighteen.

1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 1>And they promised so far, but I know it's they're sixteen,

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 1>they'll be like, look you get one a week.

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 2>One hug. Okay, Oh my god, I'm scared.

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yet everyone on everybody I've met has said like, at

1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>some point she's not gonna want to be around you.

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So as of like the last week, I will say, like, now,

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I just enjoy it. I do still sleep with her.

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Some people are against her or whatever. I'm like, there's

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.200
<v Speaker 1>some night special to make me sleep in her room.

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll sleeping girls sometimes they're on the weekends.

1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 4>They still sleep with me every like Saturday, probably Friday.

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, how often do you switch it off with Peter? Oh,

1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>so you're one hundred percent?

1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Does he ever see the kids?

1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 3>He hates California, La. Specifically, he does not like to

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:54.440
<v Speaker 3>come here. He is still bitter and mad about the

1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 3>fact that I moved here.

1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I hate coming in. Why did you have

1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 4>to move so far away?

1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Taking my kids away from me? So he kind of

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 3>blaming me that he can't see him as much.

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:06.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, yo, like case a point, Like I

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.880
<v Speaker 1>said before, I'm sure he's gonna be the first to

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, I'll die for my kids. Oh, you're getting

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.120
<v Speaker 1>on a flight to go see your kids. And I'm

1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:15.880
<v Speaker 1>not trying to bash him, no, but it's like, if

1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the rolls were flipped and he moved, would you not

1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 1>make the time to figure it out? I don't care

1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 1>if eight of those kids are on the East Coast.

1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not your problem, dude. You made that decision on

1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 1>whether I could leave the second you stepped out. But

1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm way more respect to know that you're really doing

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 1>this shit on your own and in your are you?

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Is he at least helping financially or no?

1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:40.919
<v Speaker 4>Way? Can I still say?

1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:45.120
<v Speaker 3>You know he's he's just I don't know what word

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I can put on him, but like I know that

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:51.720
<v Speaker 3>he he's like you said, like he's he would do

1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:53.640
<v Speaker 3>anything for his kids.

1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 4>He's just not always in the position.

1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's it or do you think he's

1:01:58.360 --> 1:01:58.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe I know.

1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 3>That's it, okay, because yeah, he gives when he can.

1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just not what it should be.

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're doing it so you're you're the mom

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and the dad. Yeah yeah, all right, Well you know what,

1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:14.440
<v Speaker 1>more props to you? I trust me, I'll married and

1:02:14.480 --> 1:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm the mom and the dad pretty much, so it

1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was never.

1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Any different from me.

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.800
<v Speaker 3>And you know, honestly, I also didn't grow up with

1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.720
<v Speaker 3>that mindset, Like I mean, my mom was a single moment,

1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 3>it was normal. It wasn't like the man is supposed

1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:29.720
<v Speaker 3>to provide, and like I didn't grow up thinking that,

1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:30.760
<v Speaker 3>even because I was.

1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Never taught that.

1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Like my mom always made us feel like if you

1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:35.640
<v Speaker 3>ever have kids, they're your kids.

1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:37.160
<v Speaker 2>That's that's all I knew.

1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:39.000
<v Speaker 3>So I knew by the moment I was pregnant, I

1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:41.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm gonna have kids, not we Oh okay,

1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:45.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, so for me, maybe that's wrong to think

1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.480
<v Speaker 3>that way, but to me, it was always like I'm

1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:49.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to take care of these kids.

1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I came from two parent household, and I think that's

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.120
<v Speaker 1>where me and my husband always argue. He'll be like

1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I came from a single parent. I come from a

1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:59.040
<v Speaker 1>two parent But I was very strict, like, look, if

1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this, were gonna do together. But then

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I always hear the Tupac versu in my head, Mama's baby,

1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:05.560
<v Speaker 1>papa's maybe is.

1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:08.160
<v Speaker 2>It Tupac or was it Jay, I forgot No, I

1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:08.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's Jay.

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Jay, but anyways, fact check me, but no,

1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that's Jay. How dare I discuspect anyways?

1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like.

1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Now I realize it's mama's baby. No matter what, I'm

1:03:25.200 --> 1:03:27.320
<v Speaker 1>your rid or die, I'm your best friend, I'm your soldier,

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<v Speaker 1>and I absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You ain't gotta tell them, you can just showed them.

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you so much for coming on this show

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<v Speaker 1>and blessing me with a great meal and being extremely transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people keep up with you? And like what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? Like what projects do you have going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And you just head directly to this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I just released the album this year. It's

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<v Speaker 3>my first ever. I mean, it's my fourth full album

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<v Speaker 3>as an independent artist. So it's crazy to think I've

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<v Speaker 3>put out albums independently but never with a label, even

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<v Speaker 3>though I was signed multiple times.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the album is called four point zero.

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<v Speaker 3>And produced by me exclusively. And yeah, besides that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>check out my books. I have my Dishes and More

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<v Speaker 3>spelled whether I am I Dishes and More available on Amazon,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I also have The Other Woman if you

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<v Speaker 3>are more interested in my story because it talks about

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<v Speaker 3>everything kind of we talked about today and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being in a public eye with my relationship, so the

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<v Speaker 3>other woman and my dishes and more.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I have fitness.

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<v Speaker 3>Events coming, you know, Like I said, I'm into fitness

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<v Speaker 3>and yoga and all that stuff. Me and my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>actually having our first event coming up next month, Fit

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<v Speaker 3>for Life.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I do all the things that I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to I just like to do things that

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<v Speaker 3>I love and not fall into the trap of oh

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do this because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I love that.

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<v Speaker 7>Now you self published your books, yes, well, the first

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<v Speaker 7>one was published by a publishing company, Thirteenth and Joan

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<v Speaker 7>that came out and the U I moved to California

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<v Speaker 7>in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>And I always.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, anybody that watched me on the show and has

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<v Speaker 3>an opinion of me, read the book, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you can say I want to read it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I should have brought you one forgot, but yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>other woman and yet that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like just follow me on social media at Amina Butterfly

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<v Speaker 3>with two d's and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Just so you guys know, behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, I've met Amina before. I think I may

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<v Speaker 1>have said it earlier. Super sweet, super easy to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to from the damn met you. So when I think

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<v Speaker 1>your publicists that I have what was actually through Yeah, ok, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize until today. And so that's so full circle.

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<v Speaker 1>She has seen I had seen your name on the list,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, oh no, I definitely want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a mina on the show for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's nice to come full circle.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're ever bored in the valley on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. Yeah, let's do something. I'll just be

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<v Speaker 2>with the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Me too, my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always trying to find something cool. I heard Irvines

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<v Speaker 1>doing like this cool pumpkin patch and they have like

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<v Speaker 1>a children's museum right close to it, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>like farm animals and all this. So I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>like a two a j adventure and then another mom

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<v Speaker 1>hack I learned, which anyone listening, this is a cool hack.

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<v Speaker 1>I got in someone's friends and family for the hotels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell people if you especially if you're follow

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<v Speaker 1>a following. I had my little brother do this post

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<v Speaker 1>on social like do you work at the Marriott or

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<v Speaker 1>the Hilton? And when they put you on Friends and Family,

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<v Speaker 1>you get like fifty percent off on your hotels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now if I go to San Diego or Irvine

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to drive back, I'll just book

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel. It'll be like at the Hilton and the

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<v Speaker 1>Marriotte for like one hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's a cool mom hack right, amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now when I travel, I don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about hotel accommodations because I could stay in a good

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<v Speaker 1>hotel for half the price.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mean you have to do your research and

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<v Speaker 2>play around in the app.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I always tell people, like, don't just think

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<v Speaker 1>about making money, but think about how you can save money.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see you're on your social that you post

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<v Speaker 1>do you work at any of the hotels or the airlines?

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<v Speaker 1>Is another one? Post like do you work for the airlines?

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<v Speaker 1>D im me, do you work for the hotels? Because

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<v Speaker 1>all they have to do is you add your information

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're good to go. And they just extended

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<v Speaker 1>that discount to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I literally travel wherever I want because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the hotels aren't gonna you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to San Diego, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about driving it back, you know, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>staycations are a lot easy there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, I'm telling you take my advice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you worst case scenario, if it's something local,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just hit me. I'll sign you into the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've hoked up plenty of my friends. But I

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<v Speaker 1>my little brother just did it recently. He got the

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<v Speaker 1>same Hilton.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, dude, it's so plush, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just about reaching out to your network and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't here, can you extend your discout?

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<v Speaker 2>So mom hack of the day. Guys, anyways, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Check us out on Eating while Broke, check out Amina's

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<v Speaker 1>books or music online and support Yes all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Piece out.

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