1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Good morning, swemerl then, welcome to the No Dunks podcast 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, April twelfth. Happy playing 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: day on Jay skeets and alongside me on screen at 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: least we do have task. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Mellis play on play in play as we. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Got a tap shot hop boy Trey Kirby Ayo he yo, 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: the international man of mystery taking it to the Max. 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Leellis friend and super producer filling in still for JD 9 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: his final No Dunk show, Andrew Schleck. What's up Andrew? 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Last day hanging in the yard guys, It's been fun. 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: The clouds are coming. Time to go on inside. No 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: more yard time, though you will be doing No Breaks 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: episode later today with Trey Graydon and special guest Lee 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Ellis talking about the Melbourne GP there the Australian GPS. 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: So you're not done quite just yet, Andrew, but we 16 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you filling in and the admirable work you've done 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: here keeping this train move and shout out to the 18 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: stream team joining us live right now on YouTube. Take 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: a second subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube. Do that. 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: If you haven't liked the video, comment, share the show 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: email in any of your NBA questions too. No dunks 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot Com. Keep them coming. Sick a 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: week is continuing here at no dunks. Later on today's show, 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Today's the day I will announce my ten all NBA 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: teams and the snubs at every single position. I had 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: somebody tweeting this morning. Can't wait to see where PJ. 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Washington lands. Sorry, buddy doesn't make the cut, but hey, 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'll throw his name in now as a snub. Leley, 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: you got tweet of the night. It's always an adventure. 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: You ready for that one? Okay? All right? Think so yes, okay, 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: And we will get into the Sacramento Kings moving off 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: of Elvin Gentry as their interim head coach and once 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: again starting up the search for another one. We'll get 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: to that in a little bit. 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: But people want to know, Andrew, where are you? You 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: look like an official businessman today. 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: I do. 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: I've got my caller on, I've got my lanyard. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: No, I'm a I'm at the thunder practice facility currently. 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: We've got exit interviews today talking to Mike or Mark Degnault, whoever, whatever. 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: Whoever shows up. 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: Nice. 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: Make sure you asked Josh giddy about the Formula one 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: in Melbourne too. I'm sure a redhead back in these days. 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: I'll see if I can get him on No Breaks 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: this afternoon. 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could bump Lee from that show and put Okay, 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: we got two more playing games to preview and predict 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday episode before we dive in. If 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: you're curious where our thoughts are on tonight's two games, 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Calves Nets and Clippers Wolves. Those games on TNT tonight 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: seven and nine thirty pm Eastern, go check out yesterday's podcast, 53 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Monday's No Dunks pod, or the YouTube show show Excuse Me, 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: where we broke those down and made our predictions. We 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: are actually split on the Clippers Wolves one, so go 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: check that out if you want to hear our thoughts 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: on tonight's games. But we're looking ahead to Wednesday night. 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Task get us started, my man. We got Hornets, Hawks, CACA. 59 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Got two Southeast Division rivals meeting up here in the 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: East nine to ten game, Hawks hosting Charlotte and the 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: loser eliminated from playoff contention, while the winner gets to 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: meet the loser of the Nets Cavs game for the 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: chance at the number eight seed. But what are your 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: keys to this game X factors and predictions? 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: My man, Well, first I want to know are we 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: going down to the game? We see Andrew, he's at 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: exit interviews for Okay, see, this could be the exit 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: interview for the Atlanta Hawks. This could be their last 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: game at home. We gotta go, we gotta go down. 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Let's go. First of all, we haven't confirmed that. Let's go. 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna go see a thousand points. I think this 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: game is going to be up and down. That's how 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: the Hornets are gonna win this game. They want to run, 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: they want to go small, they want to lose the Hawks. 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: In transition, you mentioned PJ Washington. He may not make 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: an All NBA team even if there's ten of them, 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: but he's gonna be key on the floor when the 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: Hornets beat the Hawks. The last time, PJ Washington was 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: at the five to close the game, along with a 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: crazy ball handling lineup of lamellow ball Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: and Cody Martin to throw in a little three and 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: D and that's the Hornet's pace. They're going to win 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: this game. They don't care about the defensive end to 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: all that much, but they just want to outscore Trey 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: and the Hawks. Now, Trey's going to score against that lineup. 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: But if they can slow down that Hornet's small ball 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, that's where they win this game. And 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: the absence of John Collins for the Hawks, who's got 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: a couple injuries a finger and a foot injury, is apparent. 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: I think playoff John is a real thing, and maybe 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: he comes back in a sort of reverse course. Ac 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: could do the unexpected and come back on good Friday. 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: If yeh, a little religion joke for you. You gotta 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: explain religion jokes these days? What's happened to our country? Anyways? 95 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: If they have a game on Friday, he could come 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: back and help out. But he is not playing on 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: Wednesday night, absolutely not. So I think Clint Capella in 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: the middle is key. He should be the biggest, the 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: most dominant big in this game. That should be his 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: agenda to be able to destroy a plumb Lee or 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: PJ Washington on the offensive glass, to get lots of 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: pick and roll opportunities, and to board like crazy, because 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: if he can be sort of a pacemaker himself, if 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: he can get some extra points to slow down the 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Hornets and get their transition sort of in neutral a 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: little bit. I think the Hawks can win this game 107 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: now they split the season series. The Hawks lost the 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: last time. As I said, to that sort of small 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: ball lineup in Charlotte, and I bring up John Collins, 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: I bring up Clint Cappel because DeAndre Hunter has sort 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: of been up and down. You might have to play 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: Danil Goallinari a ton in this game, but he is 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: going to get burnt on the defensive end. So Trey 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Young is just going to need to find help from somebody. 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: It's been a crazy disappointing year, and bog down Bogdanovic 116 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: I think will help. I think you might see a 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: lot of Delon right because of the Hornets small lineups 118 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: and Kevin Hurder obviously out there. But I do think 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: the Hawks this is a big enough game for them 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: to play enough defense. They just didn't do it enough 121 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: during during the season. But they're pretty good home teams. 122 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: They have been hot lately at home, and I think 123 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: they do put forth enough effort to slow down a 124 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: running gun Hornets team. 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: I love John Hollinger's idea with this tray first team 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: to one hundred and fifty wins, and we give extra 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: points for highlight passes and dunks. I love it. That 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: is what we should do in a play in game. 129 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Get really wild. But both these teams coming in playing decent. 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte eleven and four in their last fifteen and the 131 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Hawks won seven of their last nine, seventeen in their 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: last two. So these teams, despite maybe not playing a 133 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: ton of defense, have been finding ways to win. But 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: what are you watch in this one right? 135 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, the key to the game might just be who 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: has the ball last. You know, people will score the 137 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: entirety of the game, and whoever just happens to have 138 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: the ball at the end, maybe that's the win there. 139 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: As we saw with the Hornets last year in the 140 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: playoff game, they're excited to give up some points. Lost 141 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty four to one hundred and seventeen 142 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: against the Indiana Pacers. Nobody remembers that at this point. 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: I think the Hawks can win this pretty easily if 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: they take care of the ball. They're in general a 145 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: low turnover team because Trey Young handles the ball for 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: the majority of the time, and that's pretty much the 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: entirety of the Hornets defense. If they don't force a turnover, 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: you're probably gonna score. Whereas the Hornets, they're going to 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: win this by out shooting the Hawks. The Hornets take 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: a ton of threes, they shoot a pretty good percentage. 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: The Hawks shoot them well, they just don't shoot quite 152 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: as many of them. So I think this is going 153 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: to be a pretty big game for Bogdan Bogdanovich, Kevin Kuert, 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: and obviously Danilo Gallinari as well. They've got to make 155 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: their threes because the Whets are going to jump things up. 156 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: They're gonna try and make somebody else besides Trey Young 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: beat them. They've done a pretty solid job against Trey 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: Young during the regular season this year, I think like 159 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: twenty points per game on thirty eight percent shooting. They're 160 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: gonna play small, they're gonna play fast, and they're gonna 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: shoot a ton of threes. The Hawks are just gonna 162 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: have to kind of control the tempo by keeping by 163 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: taking good care of the ball, and by keeping their 164 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: poise because things are gonna get weird against the Hornets. 165 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: The Hornets are really good at getting opposing teams to 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: play their style of basketball. The Hawks honestly just can't 167 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: do that, because then things turn into a track meet 168 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: and at that point it could be a toss up. 169 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: I think the Hawks are the better team here, but 170 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: they have to play like the better team. They have 171 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: to play smarter, and that hasn't always been the hawks 172 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: strong suit this season. 173 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tray, you're right, I mean Charlotte. In the matchups 174 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: with the with the Hawks this year, they like, they'll 175 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: throw some zone defense at Trade, they'll force the ball 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: out of his hands. They'll go small, like you guys 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: have talked about here. And the theory is if you 178 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: get the ball out of Tray's hands early, then it 179 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: may not come back to him, you know, because he's 180 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: not whipping around there like he's Steph Curry, you know, 181 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of the time. So that's the plan probably, 182 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: And that's why I think those shooters that you guys 183 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: are saying, Bogdanovic Kevin to tell you can't even say 184 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: his name normal now because of Lee. He's he's key. 185 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: Because if the ball's forced out of Tray, and they're saying, 186 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: anybody but you beat us, we don't want to give 187 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: up the floaters. We don't want you in isolation, red velvet. 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean he scored eighteen points per game. In his 189 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: four games against Charlotte, he shot fifty two percent and 190 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: splashed seventeen three pointers. You know, they might need that 191 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: or a Bogdanovic or both of them there, Lee, to 192 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, keep the scoreboard ticking there. But this one 193 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: should be fun. I hope we're down there. I think 194 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Trey just sent a Slack message that standing room only 195 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: tickets are now available. Wow, So let's get down there, Lee, 196 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: But what do you think about this one? Yeah? 197 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: No, I think the point you guys are hitting on 198 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: a pretty much where it has come down. I think 199 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 5: home court advantage is going to be big in this one. 200 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: I think if it was in Charlotte, the Hornets are 201 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: probably favorites here in Atlanta and the Hulk's favorite. And 202 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: I think Bogdanovitch is the key here because he only 203 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: played two games against the Hornets this season and he 204 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 5: was pretty bad. Nine points and he shot twenty three 205 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 5: percent from downtown. That's just not going to fly if 206 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: the Hawks are going to get away with this one, 207 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: because if you go cold, if your team goes cold 208 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: for five or six possessions, that could really open it 209 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 5: up for the other team. And that's just something in 210 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: this sort of a game you can't afford to lose. 211 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: So I think it comes down I think Gallinari in 212 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: a game like this, it's actually okay. You know, he's 213 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 5: going to get exposed defensively, but he can also just 214 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 5: get maybe go out there and hit five or six threes, 215 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: which could really help Atlanta's case here. So it should 216 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: be fantastic. It should be a fun game, lots of 217 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: running and gunning and all that, and the Hornets are 218 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 5: going to feel good. You mentioned their record in recent games. 219 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 5: The Hawks had a quietly similar sort of turnaround like 220 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 5: they had last season. No eight games below five hundred 221 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: round the halfway mark, finished twenty six and fourteen. But 222 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: it kind of went under the radar because I think 223 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: a lot of us thought, man, the Hawks just haven't 224 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 5: got it this year. But they've sort of gotten themselves 225 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 5: into this position. They have managed to steal home court 226 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: in this critical matchup against Charlotte, and really that's where 227 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: it could come down to. We're going to see Trey 228 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 5: trying to throw some lobs to Clin Compeller as well, 229 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 5: because plumb dog, you know, he's a battler down there. 230 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: But I think the way you can maybe expose him 231 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: is just by getting lobs over the top of him. 232 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: That's how they're going to have to get some easy points. 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: And then those guys if Boggie and Kevin Huad just 234 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: to correct you there, if those guys are making shots, 235 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: Atlanta wins this game. If they're not, I think it's 236 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 5: Charlotte wins this game. But I can easily see this one, 237 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 5: as Hollinger points out, there being one hundred and fifty 238 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: three or one hundred and forty eight multiple guys in 239 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: thirty point territory for this game, and it just becomes 240 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: like a crazy, crazy ending big swings throughout the game. 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: But I'd take the Hawks again because they're at home 242 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 5: and I think Trey Young have got the best player. 243 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: And you will be in attendance standing, will be standing. 244 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: Ah yeah, I'll be there standing cheering, channeling my emotion, 245 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: trying to But hey'd be fun to see LaMelo ball 246 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: in a playoff game too, I mean, or what you know, 247 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: what do we ever calling this playing game? Because I'm 248 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 5: excited to see how he handles the pressure. You know, 249 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 5: he's a star player and he has been good for 250 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: him over this last stretch where Charlotte has been playing 251 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: some of their best ball. 252 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: The real question is how many beers will we have 253 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: on Wednesday nights. That's all I care about. 254 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, I. 255 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: Mean you set the line at one and a half, 256 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: that's where you go. These are because he finds these 257 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: tall boys to be a little too much at times, 258 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: like the selection sometimes, given you're good for one, that 259 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: second one I never know with you. 260 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, well the Peronis last year you weren't so big. 261 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: Now they've got these gigantic stellas, and I'm like, it's 262 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 5: just a little too much. It gets a little dry, 263 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: a little bit warm at the end of it as well. 264 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: So you just find the medium. 265 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: Then you're drinking. 266 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: It and you're like, I'm ready. 267 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: You get about three quarters the way through and you're like, 268 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 5: all right, I'm ready for a freshyet. 269 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well I'm hitting the I'm hit the over 270 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night for a playing game. I think Lee's 271 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a feeling it down there at the Fortress. 272 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Any other you know things to watch in this game 273 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: X factors or what is your final prediction? Leans It 274 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: sounds like you're leaning towards Atlanta. 275 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, They're nine and one in their last ten at home. 276 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest number we should be looking at. 277 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: I do like the fact that they lost their last 278 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: game against the Hornets. I think for teams that are, 279 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, good enough to be in this position, but 280 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: not great enough to be in the top four, they 281 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: do fight back after losses. And I think this is 282 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: a They had a bad taste in their mouth the 283 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: way they gave away that game in Charlotte, and they 284 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 2: will remember that, and I think, yeah, bog down, Bogdanovic 285 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: is key come down the stretch. He had a really 286 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: good stretch run towards the end of the season. He 287 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: is very focused. He said to our Chris Kershner at 288 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: the Athletic We've opened up a lot to Chris Kirshner 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: an article. He said, I'm going to set a record 290 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: next year. Chris Kershner said, what what record are you 291 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: going to set? He said, well, do know, just the record, 292 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: because he's focused. He wants he wants to set a 293 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: shooting record, whatever that is, whatever that may be. He's 294 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: he's kind of tired of just being labeled a guy 295 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: that you know, it doesn't didn't shoot a good percentage 296 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: this year. He feels like he had a good season 297 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: shooting the balls, and so I think he is. He's 298 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: really really big key along with Kevin Hurder beside Trey Young, 299 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: just to slow the flow him, just to really slow 300 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: down the Hornets. I just hope that the Hawks don't 301 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: slow it down by going to the hack a plumbly 302 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: as a coyote Jester suggests here in the stream, team 303 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: tell you, oh please, no, please, No, I don't want 304 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: to see free throws from a left handed free throw 305 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: shooter that just converted kind of cool, But I hope, 306 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope the Hawks. I mean, is there 307 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: anything cool but a free throw? 308 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: No? 309 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess the guy changing from right to 310 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: left is kind of cool. I just hope that it 311 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: doesn't come down to that for the Atlanta Hawks. Listen, 312 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm cheering for the Hawks being down here, but I 313 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 2: do agree it's exciting to see LaMelo ball in a 314 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, a show me type of game. This is 315 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: going to be his first run here in the In 316 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: the post season, I think is the appropriate term regular 317 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: season postseason for where we are right now. Then playoffs. 318 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: I think that's how we we gotta play it. Yeah, 319 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: he played. 320 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: He played last year though, fourteen points on four fourteen shooting, 321 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: and it was a dud against the Pacers, So gotta 322 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: be a better performance by the Hornets this year. Everybody 323 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: was excited to see him in the playing tournament, and 324 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: you know it's a year later and we're all forgetting 325 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: that they were even there. They got smoked by a 326 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: terrible Pacers team, like a bummer Pacers team somehow hung 327 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty four points on him. It could 328 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: get ugly, that's for sure. Like yes, another X factor, 329 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: no doubt is Kelly Ubray Junior. He's gonna take twelve 330 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: threes guaranteed, he might make nine, he might make one, 331 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: So we shall see which way it ends up going 332 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: for Kelly and the boys. Will Lee be blowing kisses 333 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: to him, I don't know. I don't know if he's 334 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: gonna do that in Atlanta. 335 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: Well see, you've got the old Larry Johnson Charlotte T 336 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: shirt as well the number two in the back. But 337 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: I can't wait that to a Hawks playoff game. I've 338 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 5: got to be a Hawks bro, so I'll save the 339 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 5: kisses for Kevin, Kevin and Bogins. 340 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: Every kiss begins with k. 341 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Either way. Okay, so Trey, you're going Atlanta. What's your 342 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: final prediction here? Yeah, I'm going Atlanta. The Hawks are 343 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: the better team here. They're surely disappointed to be a 344 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: nine seed this season. They just kind of messed around 345 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: for the first half of the year before putting things 346 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: together in the second half of the season. They've got 347 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: playoff experience. They know how to actually win playoff games. 348 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: They're in the conference finals last year. I'm going Hawks. Okay, 349 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: and Lee, before I ask you for your final score prediction. 350 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: Four morning poops pointing out Hack a plumb dog was 351 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: what we called smoking great Cigarellos, didn't I so great 352 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: message there in the stream team. You guys are killing 353 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: it here this morning. Okay, So Lee, you are leaning 354 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: towards Atlanta. What do you think? I mean, close one, blowout? 355 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Where you go? 356 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: No, I think it will be a close one. I mean, 357 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: I think the Hawks have got a slightly better offense, 358 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: but the Hornets have got a slightly better defense, not 359 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: that that really plays into it in this one. I 360 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: think it's honestly just comes down to who gets hotter 361 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: at the right time. I think the Hawks win one 362 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty three to one hundred and forty eight 363 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: in regulation. 364 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: You know what, I just want to push back on 365 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: this because I said it too, like the whole Hall 366 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: underd thing. Sometimes we've done this before, like, wow, there's 367 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: gonna be zero defense in this you watch, it's gonna 368 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: be one seventy and then the game is like the opposite. 369 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: It's the weirdest thing, especially in a one game situation. 370 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: Maybe again in the playoffs, it is a bit tater, 371 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 5: and maybe they you know, they try a little bit 372 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: harder to defend and lock down the other team. But 373 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: I just think once you get into the flow of 374 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 5: this game, one team could be up twenty and it's 375 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: like nine eight to Pennic. Guys, we can make this 376 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 5: up in five or six possessions. 377 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. So hopefully it is an entertaining game. 378 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. I'm also taking Atlanta. I think 379 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: it will be a close one though. I think this 380 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: will be like a five or six point game. What's 381 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: the line on this one? Hawk's favorite? I think by 382 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: Oh is it okay? Right around there? Oh they're good 383 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: at this, aren't they? But give me Atlanta in a 384 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: somewhat close game. Hopefully an entertaining game versus Charlotte. Let's 385 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: move to the second game on Wednesday night. Again, these 386 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: games are not on tonight. These are on tomorrow. These 387 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: two Spurs Pelicans, my goodness, Trey the game that some 388 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: people wonder should it even be happening because of their 389 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: overall record. Well, it is all right, It's real to me, 390 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: damn it. Spurs Pelicans, Uh take it away. What are 391 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: you watching this one? 392 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be like Matthew McConaughey, hacking a plumb 393 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: dog watching the just eyes focused in on two mediocre 394 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: teams playing decent basketball. But you know the good thing 395 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: for the Pelicans and Spurs is they both been playing 396 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: games that matter for the last month of the season. 397 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: Look at how the Pelicans season started. They went one 398 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: to twelve to begin the year, and they finished the 399 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: year ten games under five hundred. Advanced stats tell me 400 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: that means they played over five hundred basketball for five months. 401 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: They won nine of their last fifteen. The Spurs, meanwhile, 402 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: eight of their last fifteen, seven of the last eleven. 403 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: A lot of that was against brutal teams who were 404 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: trying to get out of the play in tournament, but 405 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: they also beat the Warriors and the Nuggets in the 406 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: last month of the season, so the Spurs were at 407 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: least given some serious effort out there. The key to 408 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: this game starts with who's playing and who isn't. De 409 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 4: Jontay Murray didn't play five of the final six games 410 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: for the Spurs, though he did suit up in game 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: eighty two. John Hollinger mentions that the Spurs pick drops 412 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 4: six slots if they get up to the number eight 413 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: seed and actually make the playoffs. That being said, Murray's 414 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: gonna play for the Pels. The question is Brandon Ingram. 415 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: He didn't play the last three games for New Orleans, 416 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: has been resting his handstring the Athletics. Will Gillory said 417 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: the plan is for him to be ready for the 418 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: play in tournament. So I'm assuming we got basically full rosters, 419 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: that we did get that little zion teas. Oh, he 420 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: would love to come back, it ain't happening. Assuming that 421 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: Ingram is playing, the Pelicans got to be the favorite 422 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: twenty nine to twenty six in the fifty five games 423 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 4: that Ingram played between him and CJ. McCollum, may be 424 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 4: a little bit too much offense for the Spurs, but 425 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: it should still be tight because the Pelicans gets of 426 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: the line a lot, but the Spurs are one of 427 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: the better teams in the league at keeping opponents off 428 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: the foul line. New Orleans forces a ton of turnovers, 429 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: but the Spurs take care of the ball. Spurs beat 430 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: the Pelicans three times this season. The Pelicans beat him 431 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: once by thirty three points, so very different but evenly 432 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: matched teams. One potential area to watch New Orleans on 433 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 4: the offensive glass. The Pelicans were third in offensive rebound 434 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: rate this season. The Spurs are twenty six in defensive 435 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: rebound rate. So an X factor more like a V factor. 436 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: Jonas Valanciunis this is already gonna be his fourth play 437 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: in game of his career. He was there with the 438 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: Grizzlies in nineteen twenty played two games last year in 439 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, including a twenty three point twenty three 440 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: rebound big Beef Barbara Walters against Yaka peardl last season 441 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: playing with the Grizzlies. So I gotta go with JV here. 442 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: Pearl keeps showing up at all of these weird situations, 443 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: and he's usually taking taking the l in it, so 444 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna throw another L POE L T 445 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: L L on this one. 446 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Thank god we have Trey Kirby because no one else 447 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: remembers any of these previous playing games. 448 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 4: It's like, you saybody's gotta look him up. 449 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I guess that did happen. I guess they 450 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: did play all right. So he's leaning with the Pelicans 451 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: at home. I will say I was completely wrong about 452 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: both these teams. I remember when they started one in 453 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: twelve New Orleans. I said, well, this season's over. I mean, 454 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: it's a wrap disappointing as hell, No Zion, it's over, 455 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be sniffing the playoffs while 456 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: here they are in the plan. And then I remember 457 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, the Spurs appear to be like, Okay, 458 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, we'll sort of wave the white flag on 459 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: this season. You know, just lean into the development of 460 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: our guys. They traded away Derek White, you know, they 461 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: trade away Thad. You know, they just get some picks, 462 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: and it's like, instead, they fall into this spot too. 463 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: A big part of this, of course, as the Lakers 464 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: being complete garbage. But here they are, Lee, what are 465 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: you watching in this one. Where does the advantage lie 466 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: to you? 467 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 5: Well, I think it the advantage lies in two things, 468 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 5: the home court and then the playoff experience. I know 469 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: you mentioned the play in there, but CEE J. Mccllums 470 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 5: being to the playoffs around sixty games they have, Valentunis 471 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 5: has played around fifty. Brandon Ingram's never played, but I 472 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 5: think C. J. McCollum has gone at least to the 473 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: conference finals, and that could be a pretty decisive fact. 474 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: He's been pretty good since he did come over in 475 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: the trade. He's obviously a guy can go out there 476 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 5: and score. I'm not sure the Spurs offense can sort 477 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: of keep up when you've got those sort of guys. 478 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: I think Valentunis in the middle has the advantage over 479 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 5: Yuker Purdle as well. Yucker Purdle is a good defender, 480 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: but I think Jonas is a big body out there 481 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: for him that he can sort of muscle his way 482 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: inside and get a few easy baskets. So I think 483 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 5: it sort of leans towards New Orleans for that reason. 484 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: I think they've just got the experience the guys who 485 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 5: I trust a little bit more to get a bucket 486 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: and Jante Murray. The injury is interesting because you know, 487 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: if you sit out the last game or two, you 488 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: can understand maybe rest, But five of six tells me 489 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 5: there's probably something a little bit more there. So maybe 490 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 5: he's not one hundred percent. Who knows, we'll find out, 491 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: but I just think the Pelicans have been playing better, 492 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 5: certainly sort of since the All Star break there, and again, 493 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 5: home court advantage can be a real factor in a 494 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 5: one off game like this. You want to be at home, 495 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 5: you want to be in front of your fans, especially 496 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 5: when you've got guys who are just a little bit 497 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: more experienced playing beyond the regular season. So that's why 498 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: I lean towards C. J. McCollum. I think he can 499 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: have a pretty game here and bathe the sort of 500 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 5: lilid that he played next through there in Portland where 501 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 5: it's like time to step up the game. He's shown 502 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: that in the past, and I think he's gonna do 503 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: it again tonight or tomorrow. 504 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, yes, Wednesday night, this one goes down. I'm 505 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: excited for like the casual fan to maybe tune into 506 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: this game task and be like what Jackson Hayes, this 507 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: guy plays alongside JV and Herb Jones. Who the hell 508 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: is that? Where'd this guy come from? There's gonna be 509 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that. People are gonna be confused, even 510 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: McCollums on the Pelicans, I think, I don't think a 511 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: lot of people are following New Orleans all that closely. 512 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: But do you think the Spurs can you know, I 513 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: guess call it an upset it would be on the 514 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: road to win this game and try and have a 515 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: shot at the eight seat. Or do you like New 516 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: Orleans as well? 517 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 5: Well? 518 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: I like New Orleans. I do think Yaka pertl in 519 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: the middle for the Spurs is important, getting on the 520 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: offensive glass and getting Yonas Valentiuns hopefully out of the game. 521 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest key for the Spurs is 522 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: just to get Valentinas off the floor if possible, to 523 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: be able to go against Willie hernan Gomez and to 524 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: be able to open it up for de Jante Murray 525 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: a little bit more in the middle to go dance 526 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: with Willie hert Angomez or whoever. Yeah, I do think 527 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: the Publicans offense is going to be a little too much. 528 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: I do think brandon Ingram, even though he's never played 529 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: in a playoff game or a play in game. To me, 530 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: playing games don't exist until they're on Basketball Reference. They're 531 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: on NBA dot Com. But I'm not buying it. I'm 532 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: not buying it that they don't exist. They're not regular 533 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: season stats, they're not postseason stats. They're play in stats. 534 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: They don't exist until they're on Basketball Reference. But Brandon Ingram, 535 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: I am surprised because he's an All Star. I suppose 536 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: that this is year six for him and he's never 537 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: played in the playoffs, But he does have that advantage 538 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: beside him in CJ. McCollum for sure, having been there 539 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: quite a bit throughout his career. And it is funny 540 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: to think about de Johonnataymurray, who's been in this league 541 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: a lot longer than you remember, I guess because he 542 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: feels like a young player. But this is the seventh 543 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: year anyway, since he's drafted in twenty fifteen, he's been 544 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: to a couple of playoffs with Kawhi Leonard, it's been 545 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: so fricking long. But you know, the playoff advantage has 546 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: to go to the Pels and their offense. But I 547 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: think if the Spurs are able to play a little 548 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: rugged with, you know, the depth that they have at center. 549 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: If they bring in a jock or whoever. I mean, 550 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: if they can rough up Valan Choos, I think that's 551 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: the key to the game. I think get him out 552 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: of the game as quickly as possible. 553 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: Keldon Johnson asked about this trip herely I wanted to 554 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: get your take on this. He said, the Spurs are 555 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: packing for four games, all right, because they're packing for 556 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: two play ins and then two playoff games because if 557 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: they make it, they're the eighth seed and they're on 558 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: the road in Phoenix. So he said, quote, everybody on 559 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: the team is packing for four games. We're going to 560 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: be ready to play. I'm just curious to your take 561 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: on that, because I know you and Trey, especially in 562 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: sending you to finals, at times you would never know, 563 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it was wrapping up its possibility it's 564 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: over tonight, it's not you know, the dilemma of like 565 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: how much to pack because you could be there, let's 566 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: call it one note, you could be there three or 567 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: four nights the way they stretch out to these finals. 568 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: So did you also have this Caldon Johnson dilemma and 569 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: were you always leaning towards Well I got a pack 570 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: for the four nights or would you just buy new 571 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: clothes in the city. 572 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I had to take three blazes at times, 573 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: you know, because sports coats, because you couldn't wear the 574 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 5: same one on the show, you know, and we were 575 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 5: probably never gone. I think three games was the most 576 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: one of us went at any one time there, So 577 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: that was it was a little bit of extra you know, 578 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: luggage you had to take, but it was always fun. 579 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: You know. 580 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: You thought, well, I've got to mix up the shirts 581 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 5: and things like that. You can't you can't wear the 582 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: same one, and then two games later you got the 583 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: same shirt, because then it looks like you were just 584 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: like you had no faith in the team. But what's 585 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: interesting about his remarks there, I mean pat Riley when 586 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: the Heat went to Dallas to close it out in 587 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 5: two thousand and six, when it was the old two 588 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: three to two format and they were up three too, 589 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 5: he was like, I'm taking one shirt, one tie, and 590 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 5: one suit, and that sort of made more sense, that 591 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: sort of confidence arrogance of like we're ending it. But 592 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 5: you know, players are supposed to only take it one 593 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: game at a time. But Kelvin Johnson. He's like, nah, 594 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 5: we go into the playoffs, babe, he said, I like 595 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 5: the confidence from a young guy. 596 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: I like it. 597 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: I think it's good. 598 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson's playing really really well for San Antonio as 599 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: of late too. He's putting up some numbers there. Yeah, 600 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: this will be fun. I saw people in the stream 601 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: team saying, one task, this is the uh, this is 602 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: like the Raptors Bowl here with Pearl versus JV. It's 603 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: like practice back in the day. And then two, even 604 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: the people that are the sickos here in the stream 605 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: team are like, yeah, you don't get most people don't 606 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunities unless you're Repelicans or Spurs 607 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: fans to see these two teams play. And I think 608 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: that's that's very true. And there will be in there 609 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: some eyeballs on this game as the last game of 610 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: the first part of the playing tournament on Wednesday night, 611 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: so it'll be fun. I hope they put on a show. 612 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: I hope, you know, some of the young Spurs players 613 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: and even some of these young Pelican guys like Eric 614 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Herb Jones, that they ball out because this will be 615 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: a big opportunity for them to at least get recognized 616 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: by some. 617 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: I would say people have the opportunity to watch the 618 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: Pelicans and the Spurs, they just choose not to. Well really, well, 619 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: I mean every team is available, everybody has lead past, 620 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: though not everybody. 621 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: You're not seeing them on national televised television a lot. 622 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: You're not seeing them on NBA TV a lot. 623 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, there's lots of Pellies on NBA TV. 624 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: Check the scat man. 625 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: Check how many times do you think the Pelicans played 626 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: on NBA TV this year? 627 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: At least as many as Lee brings Blazers on the 628 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: road at least. 629 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: I guess the Zion Factor TV. That's right. Yeah, so 630 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: predictions is everybody taking New Orleans? 631 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's about a five point line there as well. 632 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: I think the Spurs can cover it. But I am 633 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: taking the Pelicans to win the contest. 634 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what about you test? 635 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the Pellies at home. I do believe 636 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: in Brandon Ingram as a cool cat number one guy, 637 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: especially C J. McCollum playing beside him. Yeah, I think 638 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for the Spurs to contain that. Again, 639 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: I do think it's uh the Spurs got his score 640 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: inside for this game to be interesting, it's got to 641 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: be de Jontay Mariy, Kelvin Johnson getting JV off the floor. 642 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I believe in the Pels. The Pels, you know, 643 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: they they did have aspirations. They do they they did, 644 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: you know, come from one to twelve. I think they're 645 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: a confident bunch going into this game. 646 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: All right, what do you what do you got, Trey? 647 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: I would love to San Antonio swerve, but I gotta 648 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: go with the Pelicans here. They seem like a team that, 649 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: you know, had they you throw out the first month 650 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: of the season, they're right up there with some of 651 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: the bad Eastern Conference teams. You know, they would be 652 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: knocking on the door of the tenth seed regardless in 653 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference. So yeah, you know, not a lot 654 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: of people watch the Pelicans in Spurs, And when the 655 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: Pelicans showed up on National TV, people were like, why 656 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: are the Pelicans on National TV? So that's definitely true. 657 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: But you know, one exciting game is all we need 658 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 4: from these squads tonight or tomorrow night. Yeah, I mean 659 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: we could have done the previews on the days of 660 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: the game, but that would have made too much sense. 661 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Well yeah, then we've got too many blocks the foot too. 662 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, task, you're right, I forgot the 663 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Zion factor of course, thinking he might just going to 664 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: play this season. Fifteen total five on NBA TV, though 665 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: who knows how many of these were flexed. We'd have 666 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: to really do a deep dive on that. But they 667 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: did have some games on nationally on national television though. 668 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Were people watching? I'm not sure. 669 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: And the viewing experience has improved in New Orleans. It 670 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: used to be poor lighting, not great, just not great 671 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: color wise. And I know some people don't like the 672 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: giant pelican that stretches its wings from three point line 673 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: to three point line. But I think the view experience 674 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: has gotten a lot better. I just I just didn't 675 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: like the aesthetics before. But somehow, I don't know what 676 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: they did. The lights are better. Things are better in 677 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: New Orleans. It should be a fun game. I know 678 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: it's of the four games. To me, this is the 679 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: least exciting. I've got to be honest. Yeah, you got 680 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: to be totally honest, because you know they are two 681 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: sub five hundred teams. But yeah, the Pels and the Spurs, 682 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: they have not been playing like those some five hundred 683 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: teams recently, so it should be a good one. 684 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take our first break. When we come back, 685 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Kangs looking for another head coach, 686 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: and we will finally get to my ten all NBA teams. Yes, 687 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: sick of season is here. People be right back. Okay, 688 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: back here with the crew. 689 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: But where's dask there is? 690 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: Before we get to my ten all NBA teams and 691 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: the snubs, we had some news in the NBA coaching world. 692 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: We know that Frank Fogel was fired by the Lakers, 693 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: but also yesterday Elvin Gentry was informed that he is 694 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: no longer the interim head coach of the Sacramento Kings 695 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: and that the team will commence a comprehensive coaching search immediately. 696 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Lots of names being considered, Kenny Atkinson, Steve Clifford, Mark Jackson, 697 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Mike Brown, and a couple of Bucks assistants, Charles Lee 698 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: and darvinham. Chams was the first one all over this. 699 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: But Lee, here we go again with Sacramento. This is 700 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: not really a surprise. He hadn't shed the interim head 701 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: coaching title there. But Gentry's out and here they go again. 702 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: What do you think of this news. 703 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he may be staying on in the 704 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 5: front office in a role there, but they are obviously 705 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: trying to get a new head coach. And their Basketball 706 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 5: Reference franchise index page is a pretty miserable page because 707 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 5: if you go back, do you remember who was the 708 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 5: coach was before Luke Walton? Anybody remember Vieger Dave Jeger 709 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 5: was the coach and his last season he went thirty 710 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 5: nine and forty three. Now that thirty nine and forty 711 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 5: three was the best record they had since they last 712 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: made the playoffs in two thousand and six with Rick Adelman. 713 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: So the Kings just can't get out of their own way. 714 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 5: They just don't seem to know what they're doing. It's 715 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 5: like you hire someone, you go, this is our guy, 716 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 5: and then five minutes later he's out and someone else 717 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: has come in. And that's going to be the problem. 718 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: That they're going to get a coach. They're going to 719 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 5: get a good coach there, but the front office and 720 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 5: the ownership group there, Viveka and adiv he has to 721 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 5: be able to get his hands out because that's where 722 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: a lot of the criticisms to come from in recent 723 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 5: times that the owner just sort of interferes and puts 724 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 5: his fingerprints on bad decisions. And if you hire smart, good, accomplished, 725 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: front off as people, you have to basically let them 726 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: do it. 727 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: Now. 728 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: Monty McNair has made a few changes in the last 729 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: couple of days as well, relieving another assistant general matter 730 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 5: of his duties, oppressed public relations director as well, and 731 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: there's likely to be other changes. So it sort of 732 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: has to you have to trust Monty if you've hired 733 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: him to do this job and be the general manager, 734 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 5: and then you have to let him go all the 735 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 5: way through because otherwise I can see what's going to 736 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 5: happen in another year or two. They're going to fire 737 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: somebody else. And so this is a very very important 738 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: decision I think for the Kings moving forward. I don't 739 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 5: think they made the right decision during the season trading 740 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: away Tyrese Haliburton. You know, you get some bonus in return, 741 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: but so bonus has under got i think two years 742 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 5: left on his contract and he's an unrestricted free agent. 743 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 5: So you have to make sure that this next choice 744 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: of coach is someone who is going to be able 745 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 5: to sort of stabilize some movement there, because I really 746 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: feel that the Kings are their own biggest enemy here 747 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: and they've got to be able to, you know, get 748 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: rid of the chaos it's engulfing this franchise and has 749 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 5: done for the last ten to fifteen years. 750 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be Sacramento's third head coach in as 751 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: many seasons, and it's sixth head coach since Michael Malone 752 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: was let go in twenty fourteen. There's been a lot 753 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: of them and the only one that's ever had any 754 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: success was Rick Adelman a long time ago. Like Lee said, 755 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: so who do you bring in here? 756 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: Tasks? 757 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: And can this team you know, turn this around with 758 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: what appears to be building blocks still in Sabonas and Fox. 759 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: So what do you do? Well? 760 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: I think what Lee said in terms of bringing a 761 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: real steady hand that has an influence beyond just the 762 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: head coaching role, because it really does go up to 763 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: the front office. Well, it's you know, we've seen a 764 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: couple coaching moves in the last couple of days where 765 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: the front office just isn't doing their job all that Well, 766 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: it's happening in La where they they like Frank Vogel, 767 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: their coach who won a championship without telling the guy 768 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: first done through the media and Alva Jetriy obviously didn't 769 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: have a long term contract with this team. At the 770 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: same time, they need somebody who has that, I mean, 771 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: who has the confidence of ownership and has the ability 772 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: to do what he wants. Yeah, ever since Michael Malone 773 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: was left or let go in twenty fourteen, Yeah, it's 774 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: been a roller coaster. It's been a roller coaster for 775 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: a long time with this team. So who they bring 776 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: in I don't know, but somebody who has a ton 777 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: of power I think, and knows that the front office 778 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: is going to be stable. But that's a lot to 779 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: ask of this King's franchise. Unfortunately, it's it is truly 780 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: a lot to ask, So who knows. I'm just sad 781 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: that we don't have an Alvin in the league anymore. 782 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: I love the name Alvin, and you know you mentioned 783 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just thinking names now, Skeets. You mentioned Jackson, Hayes, 784 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: Jackson with an ex what herb play and tomorrow and 785 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: then Alvin. I'm so sad, so sad that an Alvin 786 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: has gone again. But he'll be back, obviously on someone's 787 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: bench if he doesn't take a front office role. 788 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: I think I see a lot of people I know. 789 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: I was watching Deus and mow Fantastic Kings podcast yesterday. 790 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: They were breaking this breaking news and they had they 791 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: even were like like showing Fox and Sibonis being asked 792 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: about this decision and where they go, and it seems 793 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: like they really just want, like, of course, someone that 794 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: can have an identity to a team Trey, like a 795 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: Kenny Atkinson. What he did in Brooklyn makes some sense 796 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: here in Sacramento if he's like given the chance to 797 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: like find, you know, young good players and grow them 798 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: into something and also like keep them accountable, which I 799 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: think they've been lacking over the last couple of years, 800 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: probably since a yager before. Being honest, But what do 801 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: you think the Kangs do here? Where do they go? 802 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 4: They've got a few options. Number One, bring back Rick Adelman. 803 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: He'll be seventy six at the start of next season. 804 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 4: He's been retired for seven years. But they made the 805 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: playoffs eight times in eight seasons with Rick Adelman, so 806 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: maybe that's the key. Atkinson's not a bad choice, especially 807 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 4: if you want to kind of be an early Nets 808 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: team where you're just trying to build more of a 809 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: program rather than an NBA franchise, get everybody on the 810 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: same page, and get a lot of young guys bought in. 811 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 4: I can see that being beneficial, or maybe, which I'm 812 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: seeing the stream team suggest as well, Frank Vogel is 813 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 4: somebody that could take a look at, because you know 814 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: he's gonna bring a defensive identity. He said after his 815 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 4: time with the Lakers was coming to an end. It's 816 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: been a win now scenario for him every year. That 817 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: would not be the case in Sacramento. Just be an 818 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: improved now and have an identity, and he's surely got 819 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: a lot of purple in his wardrobe. Would be a 820 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: short trip to Sacramento, So I think that could work 821 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: as well. But they just need somebody that's gonna get 822 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: them to play like a professional basketball team. I don't 823 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: know what that means. They somewhat improve defensively this year 824 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 4: from thirtieth to twenty seven, so that's at least a 825 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 4: step in the right direction. They think they'd got fa 826 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: straightened out with their back court with Mitchell and Fox 827 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: and then some bonus making plays as well. There's some 828 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 4: talent there, but they've not been able to get on 829 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: the same page basically since Mike Malone was around. 830 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the deepest question about this King's franchise that I 831 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: came across yesterday was has Sacramento's inability to evaluate coaching 832 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: talent held back their bad players? Or has their inability 833 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: to evaluate player talent held back their bad coaches? Real 834 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: chicken in the egg vibe there. I was like, holy crap, 835 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: my brain nearly exploded trying to think about that one, 836 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: because they've they've struck out on both sides of that 837 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Lee. But we'll see what they 838 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: can do here and if they can turn this around. 839 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: I still believe in Darren Fox. I was tweeting yesterday, 840 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll buy all your Fox stock if you want off 841 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: of it, I get it. If you're ready to check 842 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: out on them, I'll buy it. And I'd hope to 843 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: see this team at least. Look, it's embarrassing this team 844 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: is not in the playing We do all agree with that, 845 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: right lely, with the record that you need to get 846 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: in at this year. 847 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 5: Jesus, you know, because when they fired Luke Walton, that 848 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 5: didn't seem to be a firing with some other direction 849 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 5: or plan in mind. It was just like hey, we 850 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 5: want to just fire the coach and see if that works, 851 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: and it didn't really do anything. And I think if 852 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 5: you are d'aron Fox, I also think he is a 853 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 5: very good player, but at this point of his career 854 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 5: he must be just like, you know, this can't continue. 855 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 5: I can't just keep having new coaches, new general managers, 856 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: you know, huge overhauls of the roster. He needs some 857 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 5: stability himself. So this is a critical season I think 858 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 5: for him as to finding a coach that can connect 859 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 5: with him and bring out the best of him, which 860 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 5: we saw two seasons ago where he was flirting with 861 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: All Star selection, but this season he took a step 862 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 5: back for the most part. He just didn't seem to 863 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 5: have that same juice. And then you look down the 864 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 5: roster as well, someone like Harrison Barnes. I don't think 865 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 5: he's going to be a part of their future. So 866 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 5: are they going to know? How are they going to 867 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 5: move on from him and moving forward to some other 868 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 5: decisions there. So this is a big one, a big decision. 869 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: I think Kenny Atkinson probably fits the sort of mold 870 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 5: for a d'aron Fox, like, okay, we can you know, 871 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 5: maybe in the same way D'Angelo Russell excelled under Kenny 872 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 5: Atkinson there. 873 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: In Brooklyn coach. 874 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was an All star there at the 875 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 5: Angela Russell, So I think that's the sort of selection. 876 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: But it's just more important to show some sort of 877 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 5: detachment from the ownership group, I think in the front office, 878 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: because if they can't keep meddling with decisions, then we're 879 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 5: just going to be in this same position with Sacramento 880 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: for the next year a couple of years after that, 881 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 5: and that's I think been their biggest problem. 882 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: Skeet's a quick question for you. I think I think 883 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: the most important thing surrounding the Sacramento Kings is the 884 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 2: question of that Deuce and Mo podcast you mentioned. Did 885 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: Douce shave his head? That's the most intriguing thing to 886 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 2: me about the Kings. The last month, they'd say, I'm 887 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 2: glad you asked hass Yeah, did he He absolutely did. 888 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: Yes. He The bald cap gag that he did a 889 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was just that, but he really 890 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: paid it off. I think I forget what the line was. 891 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he said I'll shave my head if the 892 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: Kings don't win. I want to say it was like 893 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: thirty five games. It's like it wasn't even insane. You know, 894 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't like fifty wins, it wasn't forty. It wasn't 895 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: like even a winning record. It was like crazy and 896 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: they'd still come up short. But yes, he'd mo shaved 897 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: Deuce's head. And you know what, I didn't think I 898 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: looked that bad on him. You know, it's not. It's 899 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: not like me. It's like really bad on some people. 900 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: I thought he might have a I thought he might 901 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: have a weird alien head like I do. But I 902 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: thought he pulled it off. Okay, but he came through. 903 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: He delivered, just like we got to deliver on some 904 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: pick and payoff. Still, but he did. 905 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 2: Great to hear, Yeah, and a smart move doing it, 906 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: probably on the last show for a while. He can 907 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: let that hair grow back for a bit. 908 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, smart all around, and you know, made more 909 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: content out of it with the bald cap and then 910 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: and then yeah I did it on the last day. Yeah, yeah, well, 911 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 1: well played, well executed. Poor King couldn't even win thirty 912 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: five games to save this guy's hair. That's insane. 913 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, also crazy when you go to the franchise index 914 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 4: for on basketball Reference for the Kings, and seventy five 915 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 4: percent of their top twelve players all time are still 916 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 4: in black and white. That's not good. You want to 917 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 4: see some players in color. Here, Peishastoyokovic the only player 918 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: in color amongst their top five, alongside Oscar Robertson, Jack Twineman, 919 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 4: Bobby Wanser and Jerry Lucas. 920 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh, Bobby, I've got Royals players in the midday. 921 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 4: That's bad. 922 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: It's good, all right. We're cheering for you Kings fans, 923 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: trust me. Okay, let's get to my ten All NBA teams. 924 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 1: Why did I do this last year? I couldn't remember, 925 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: but people seem to enjoy it enough, so we thought 926 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: we'd run it back. The Sicko skeets ten All NBA teams. 927 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: We'll go through each team one at a time. Here. 928 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun putting this together. There 929 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: will be snubs. You will be upset where some of 930 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: your players are, and just take a second to think 931 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: about what you're getting upset about. Okay, you're gonna be 932 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: pissed off that I didn't have a guy in the 933 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: top ten All NBA teams, or maybe I had him 934 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: on the seventh team. When you thought he should have 935 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: been on the sixth team. Just breathe a little bit. Okay, 936 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: this is just really fun. I had to make some 937 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: rules with it, though, so you had to at least 938 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: play over half the season at least. I sort of 939 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: like I kept around, like a fifty five games played, Mark, 940 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was fair this year. So that means 941 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: there's no Paul George here. There's no Kyrie, there's no Dame, 942 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: there's no ad, there's no Clay, there's no Beal, there's 943 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: no draymon on even and he only played forty five games. 944 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: So like, just keep that in mind when you go, well, 945 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: where's this guy, Maybe it's because he didn't play enough games. Okay, 946 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: So the first three teams we've already discussed before I 947 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: changed them a little bit. I gotta be honest. First team, though, 948 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: it's the exact same as I had whatever that was 949 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. I got Yoll Kitch 950 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: as my center. I'll always hit you with my center, 951 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: my two forwards, and my two guards. Okay, that's how 952 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: all ten of these teams will go. Yoll Kitch, Yannis 953 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum I'm putting as my you know, second forward 954 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: there on the All NBA four Devin Booker and Luka Doncic. 955 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: I think you guys almost had the exact same team 956 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: when we were doing this for the most part. All 957 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: the same names are there, Okay, so let's keep it going. 958 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: All NBA second team. This is where embiide is, this 959 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: is where Durant is. I did tweak it a little bit. 960 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 1: I had Lebron here not making the damn play in hurts. 961 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bump him down one DeRozan come on up, buddy, 962 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: You're you're a forward in my books. And then Ja 963 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: Morant and Chris Paul are my guards. Okay, and hey, 964 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: a quick rant here because this is getting out of control. 965 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: People on Twitter freaking out about Jokic and embiid how 966 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: they both need to be on the first team and 967 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: it's insane that they're not, and people can't pick a 968 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: damn center. What are you guys doing. It's embarrassing now 969 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: at this point. I can't believe people. I I trust people. 970 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: I turned to their opinions and actually hold in high regard. 971 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: Going nuts over this. No one cares. I'll say this 972 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: till I'm blue in the face. No one cares. At 973 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,479 Speaker 1: the end of their careers, whether Embiid or Yokic had 974 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: more first team All NBA selections when they're just gonna 975 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: be the second team nobody. All we're gonna find out 976 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: is like, is Embiid gonna end up a David Robinson 977 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: type ten time All NBA center for them first team, 978 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: two second team, four to third team. Is it gonna 979 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: be Patrick Ewing seven time All NBA Center, one first team, 980 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: that's it six times on the second team? Or is 981 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: it gonna be a Yao Ming, which would probably be 982 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: better than when it's all said and done. Yao Ming 983 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: never made a first team, two second teams, three third teams. Okay, 984 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: So I just don't care. I don't and I don't 985 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: think anybody does. I know. I've gotten to a hilarious 986 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: argument with Tray about this before. 987 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 4: First team matters, never matters big time. 988 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: Anybody say, Hakeem Elijah One, twelve time All NBA Center, 989 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: do you know how many were first team though only 990 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time you made for no one 991 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: fucking says it. Five didn't even say it. 992 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: You're telling me. You're telling me Hakeem Elijah On may 993 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: have more first Team All NBA teams than David Robinson 994 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 4: and Patrick Ewing. 995 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you wouldn't have known unless I did a 996 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: deep dive on how many times that's my point trait. 997 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's interesting except for the fact 998 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 4: everybody considers Hakeem the best of those three. 999 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: That's then totally fine. Then you'll Kich will be better 1000 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: than Mban when it's all said and done. 1001 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 4: That's why we do first, second, and third. 1002 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: But if I had asked you, there's no way you 1003 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: would have been able to tell me the exact breakdown 1004 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: of David Robinson's ten all NBA selections. I just know 1005 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have. And that's fine you shouldn't because we 1006 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: just say ten time all NBA Center done. Awesome. Oh 1007 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: that means he was one of the best at its position. Yes. 1008 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: Does that mean he's a Hall of Famer? Yes? 1009 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 4: Does that mean like people, people do rankings, people do 1010 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 4: a top ten, and Hakim makes it all the Timedavid 1011 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 4: Robinson and Patrick Ewing, don't. They were the second and 1012 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 4: third best centers in that era, behind a cheam, which 1013 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 4: is why he made the first team so many times. 1014 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to disagree on this because I've never 1015 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: heard an argument. Again, I guess I'm What I'm saying 1016 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: is it's not going to really do anything to and 1017 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: beat in my opinion, like he's going to be a 1018 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer if he continues to play and rack 1019 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: up all NBA selections, be it first, second, or third. 1020 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm coming in second in Fallster. 1021 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure he loves I mean, he's second on my team. 1022 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: He was second on your team because you have a backbone. 1023 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: At least you can pick between two guys for one position. 1024 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: Everybody else, go. 1025 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: Ahead, NBA All Temper Team. The comment here coming from. 1026 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: Hilarious, I've never heard that joke. You are so funny. 1027 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: Come on, come up with some new material. Guys, we 1028 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: already got a T shirt. Jesus, just go buy that. 1029 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 2: Oh you can't. He can't ask people to come up 1030 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 2: with new material when you sold a T shirt anyway 1031 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: you want to. I heard I heard this that. I 1032 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 2: heard this Sat, and I think it's crazy. Who has 1033 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: made the most All NBA third teams in the history 1034 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: of the NBA. 1035 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 5: Great question, LaMarcus Oldridge. 1036 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 2: No, it's a player that some would really enjoy being 1037 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: on the All NBA third team, as in you know, 1038 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: he's always been sort of player Rudy Gobert, not a 1039 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: third wheel, but never you know, never the best in 1040 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: this Chris No, no current player. 1041 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: Cry how many he's a wing times? 1042 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: Five times? He's made five a third All NBA teams, 1043 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 2: more than anyone in the history of the league. It's 1044 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: just kind of surprising because you don't think of him 1045 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 2: as an All NBA player. I mean this, if you 1046 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 2: really care about what All NBA team a player is on, 1047 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: this sort of makes sense for this guy. He's made 1048 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: one All NBA first team and five third teams and 1049 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: that's all he's made. He's a wing. He's never won it. 1050 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: George Paul, George's correct, George c W. 1051 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 4: Crocker coming through in the stream team It's. 1052 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Stuff PG Okay, I just can't. I just can't believe 1053 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: the conversation going on Twitter and with these actual people 1054 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: of votes like this maneuvering of trying to get for 1055 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: some reason, they just start convinced it's so important. I 1056 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: just don't think it is. I can completely disagree. Jokichuan 1057 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: and B two Anyway, All NBA third Team. We got 1058 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of teams here. We'll speed this up here, 1059 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: switch it, Andrew All NBA thirteens, You're already over at. 1060 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns is the center. Siakam is on my 1061 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: all NBA third team. I'm gonna put Lebron here. I 1062 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: know people don't even have them on their legit, you know, 1063 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: all NB three, you know, third team or second team 1064 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: or wherever. I feel that's like a little crazy. You 1065 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: step back at a certain point with these and go like, well, 1066 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: is he still one of the best at his position? Yes, 1067 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: so he's in on my team. So I guess if 1068 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: you really want to hold it against him that he 1069 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: didn't make the plan, sure, go nuts. I don't give 1070 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: a shit. Curry is the guard and Trey Young is 1071 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: the guard. Okay, now it gets fun. All NBA fourth team. 1072 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm going bam Adebayo over Rudy Gobert. Rudy will be 1073 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: on my fifth team. Bam just made the cut on 1074 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: games played fifty six games average nineteen ten and three 1075 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: two point two stocks when you add up your steals 1076 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: and blocks. He's on the best team in the East, 1077 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: like us. I like slotting him in here. Also, you know, 1078 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: I just think he's maybe a bit more of an 1079 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: impactful player than Rudy of course offensively, and I still think, 1080 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty damn close when it comes to 1081 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: the defense side of things too. Jimmy Butler, second heat 1082 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: player here. He just made the cut fifty seven games. 1083 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people when it comes to their real vote, 1084 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: it's like Siakam or Butler. It seems like that's a 1085 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: debate going on with people with an actual ballot. But 1086 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll put Butler on the fourth team here. Jalen Brown, 1087 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: who I guess he could convince me as a guard 1088 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: just as much as he has a forward. I think 1089 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: it's pretty close in terms of his minutes played, but 1090 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: I'll put him there. Donovan Mitchell twenty six points per 1091 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 1: game bad he makes the fourth team. And de Jontay 1092 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: Murray twenty one to eight to nine on the Spurs. 1093 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: What an unbelievable year. And I think in doing this exercise, 1094 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: de Jontay Murray gets my most improved player vote because 1095 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: he was a snub last year when I did the 1096 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: All NBA teams. Yes, he didn't make any of the 1097 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: ten All NBA teams, and here he is on the 1098 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: fourth team and I think in a great spot. So 1099 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: there he is okay, all NBA fift team and jump in, guys. 1100 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: I am trying to move with pace here. But if 1101 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 1: you have a if you have a real issue with somebody, 1102 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: I have go nuts. Rudy Gobert is the center on 1103 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: the fifth team. Chris Middleton Andrew you there my man. 1104 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert center on the fifth team. Chris Middleton and 1105 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: Zach Levine are my forwards. Again, Levine is one of 1106 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: those where do you put him? I'll put him at 1107 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: the forward Darius Garland and Van Vleet. In doing this, 1108 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: there are just way more guards in the mix for 1109 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: these ten all NBA teams and there were forwards. It 1110 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: started to get a little shall as I went with 1111 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: the forwards. But Lee any thoughts on this one, okay? 1112 00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: With where these guys are. 1113 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I means Middleton being there. 1114 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 2: You know. 1115 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 5: I gave him some consideration on my thirteen because he's 1116 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 5: just that under the radar Ferris Wheel. He's a very good, 1117 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 5: consistent player, just doesn't get the appreciation of love. So 1118 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 5: I'm glad that he is in there at number five. 1119 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 5: I'm expecting Drew Holiday maybe on the next one as well, 1120 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 5: because I think, well, just you know, those guys are 1121 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 5: just just underappreciated, I think, and the Bucks are still, 1122 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 5: you know, my favorite to come out of the East, 1123 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 5: and so it's good to see them. We was good 1124 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 5: to see Chrissy getting some love here. 1125 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 2: Oh this is a This is a good comment from 1126 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 2: Nils from Germany. Levine is not a forward because you 1127 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 2: had DeRozan and Levina's forwards. He's got one guard on 1128 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: the Bulls. 1129 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: He played that forward. But yeah, I just put them 1130 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: both on because again, too many guards. So I want 1131 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: to show some Zach Lavine love, who had a really 1132 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: awesome you know, starts this season. I think he's sort 1133 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: of as the Bulls. 1134 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 4: He had got three quarters of a season. 1135 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, better, he's too low. 1136 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 4: I think I got Gobert, Yeah, I got go beart 1137 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 4: Over banned. The Jams fell apart when Gobert went out 1138 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 4: of the lineup. The Heat were able to keep winning, 1139 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 4: because that's just heat basketball heat culture right there. 1140 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. Sixth team. Jared Allen is my center. 1141 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunate injury at the end of the year, but obviously 1142 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: was an All Star, well deserved. Mckial bridges, I'm gonna 1143 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: throw here, so now we go this is a real 1144 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: defensive minded team. You Jared Allen, McKale Bridges with the Sons, 1145 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: Jared Jackson Junior, who's in the running for Defensive Player 1146 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: of the Year. I know that's your pick Lee, and 1147 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: then Lamello ball, and there's your Drew Holiday. I slotted 1148 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: him in there. That feels good that one. No, I 1149 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: like getting into a little bit more of like, okay, 1150 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: let's give some love to some of the defensive guys. 1151 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: Seventh team. DeAndre Ayton there with the Sons. I put 1152 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: Sabonis as a forward. He does now play center, so 1153 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: you could go there, but we'll put him at one 1154 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: of these. You know, the numbers are still really impressive 1155 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: even though he played on the Pacers and then the Kings. 1156 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: Miles Bridges he played in I believe eighty games this year, 1157 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: So he's like mckill Bridges, who's an iron man and 1158 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: average twenty points per game on like nearly fifty percent shooting. 1159 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: Great season for Miles Bridges. I like him there. I'm CJ. McCollum. 1160 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: James Harden was the like, I didn't know what to 1161 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: do with James Harden. If I'm being completely honest, Guy 1162 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: averaged twenty two, eight and ten in sixty five games. 1163 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,479 Speaker 1: But if you strike his rookie season, it's the worst 1164 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: shooting season of his career. All we know, all like 1165 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: what happened with him. We don't have to regurgitate that. 1166 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: But like, it's like, I don't know, Lee, it's hard 1167 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 1: and it's still one of the better He's still one 1168 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: of the better guards in the league. This felt right 1169 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: to me. I was like, I like where I got 1170 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: him here, not at the end. He's not at the top. 1171 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 5: So I mean, to basically average a triple double and 1172 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 5: be on the seventh team just shows how far he's 1173 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 5: sort of appeal. I guess has fallen because he still 1174 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 5: puts up these numbers and what's perceived to be a 1175 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 5: pretty bad, lazy, sloppy season by his standards. But how 1176 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: many guys in the NBA would kill to have a 1177 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 5: twenty to eight and ten season, as you mentioned, even 1178 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 5: with those percentages, that's honestly, for some guys an absolute 1179 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 5: monster career season. So it's just James Harden is not 1180 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 5: the most beloved character in the league. You know, he 1181 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 5: forced his way out of Brooklyn. There it goes to 1182 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 5: Philadelphia and we've unfortunately seen some of the bad habits 1183 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 5: sort of pick up again where it's like he seems uninterested, 1184 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 5: but even when he's only going at seemingly half speed, 1185 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 5: he can put up incredible numbers. 1186 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tassa, Any thoughts on Harden and his All NBA 1187 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: seventh team selection here during Soca Week. 1188 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 2: I think what it matters when it comes down to 1189 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: a player's resume is that he just made the All 1190 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: NBA team. Doesn't matter what team he's on. Oh yeah, sure, 1191 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 2: I think seven's probably right. 1192 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: Oh well, people are saying you shouldn't be on any 1193 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: of the teams. 1194 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean, he's as if you're including DeRozan. You know 1195 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 4: he's a forward. Levine's a forward, so technically there, they 1196 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 4: could also qualify as guards. Same with Jalen Brown. I 1197 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 4: think James Harden is easily a top twenty guard in 1198 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,240 Speaker 4: the NBA. Yeah, you know, all things considered. 1199 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, All NBA eighth team starts getting a little 1200 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: tricky here. I mean eighth and ninth and tenth. You 1201 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: can move them all around, and I mean, sure you 1202 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: won't be wrong, No one's wrong with these. But I 1203 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 1: got valanchoutas I went JV as my All NBA eighth 1204 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: Team center Brandon Ingram just made the cut with the 1205 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: fifty five games played. I really liked his season twenty three, 1206 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: six and six. He improved defensively. He helped turn that 1207 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: Pelicans team around. There was a stretch where he was 1208 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: playing lightso basketball even though no one was watching. So 1209 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: he just makes the cut because the game's played. I 1210 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: put Andrew Wiggins here, All Star starter. Andrew Wiggins. It 1211 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: feels right. He shot nearly forty percent from three. As 1212 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: the season went on, you heard less and less from him. 1213 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: I still think it's amazing he was an All Star starter, 1214 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: but they had that awesome start. 1215 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, Harden on the seventh team and all start. 1216 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: I would assume that Wiggins is on the lowest ranking 1217 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 2: team as an All Star here. There's nobody as an 1218 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 2: All Start on a ninth or tenth team. I assume 1219 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 2: the just cam't think so. I mean, now we're in 1220 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 2: the like, these are the top forty players in the 1221 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: NBA as the eighth team here, twenty four go to 1222 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: the All Star Game. It's just a bad second half 1223 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 2: for both Wiggins and James harted. 1224 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, Anthony Edwards makes the eighth team. As one 1225 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: of the guards, and I put Tyler Herro here Lee 1226 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: as you know, he's gonna run away with six man 1227 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: in the year, and you know, of course, scoring twenty 1228 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: points per game whether you start or come off the bench. 1229 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty amazing. I know he plays a 1230 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of minutes for guys to come off the bench, 1231 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: but I thought he was, you know, pretty pretty solid 1232 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: for the Heat this year, who are the first number 1233 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: one team in the East. 1234 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 5: Yes, And I disagree with John Holling's analysis that Kevin 1235 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 5: Love is the runaway winner for six man. I think 1236 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 5: it is going to be Tyler here because I think 1237 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 5: it's more than just empty buckets. I think he actually 1238 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 5: really gives them that second punch off the bench. He 1239 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: guys out day, he can run the offense, and he's 1240 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 5: been outstanding and consistent old season. So I think Tyler 1241 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 5: Hero is the six Man of the Year and deserving 1242 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 5: of a eights but eighth ol NBA tape. 1243 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay till the ninth team. Vucci Baby is the center. 1244 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 4: I thought he was a guard. I thought you'd have 1245 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 4: been a guard. 1246 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: No, he's a center for skats. 1247 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't take free throws, he can't shoot so I mean, 1248 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 4: maybe he has a center. Honestly, this is too high, 1249 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 4: too high for Booch. I put that he was brutal. 1250 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 4: He was brutal, brutal Birdle seasons. He's out there for 1251 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 4: his offense and he can't score. 1252 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes forward, Evan Mobley forward. That's where the rookies go. 1253 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: How to keep them together? Just as like fine good 1254 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: uh and again, once you start to get to the 1255 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: last couple forward spots, you're like, you're left scratching your head. 1256 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: I went, Desmond Bean is a guard. I think he's 1257 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: had a really really good season, obviously, especially when John 1258 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: Moranco's out and you still lit it up and Tyr's Halliburton. 1259 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: His numbers are amazing. He's the Sabonis here flipped where 1260 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: he was on the Kings then on the Pacers, really 1261 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: really lights out numbers with Indiana. But young guy, this 1262 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: is just a young team here with Vucci, baby, maybe 1263 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: I should have put Robert Williams the third then as 1264 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,919 Speaker 1: my ninth team center. Sure, flip them if you want, 1265 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: but go to the tenth team, Andrew, I I got 1266 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: time Lord as the center, and then my forwards. Oh, 1267 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: I went, Tobias Harris. I wasn't happy about it, but 1268 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: I put him there. Aaron Gordon showed out to a 1269 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: couple of people on Twitter making the case for Aaron 1270 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: Gordon just the contributions that he helped out the Joker 1271 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: and Denver this year and great defensive player, or had 1272 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: a solid defensive year for them, and he did have 1273 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: a fine season, so sure. And then I went with 1274 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: the Aaron Fox and SGA. This is my team, damnit. 1275 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: I love those two players, and they made the cut 1276 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: games played wise, which actually shocked me. Fox played fifty 1277 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: nine and SGA played fifty six, So I think she 1278 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: Gildas Alexander's better than a lot of the guards that 1279 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: I've already listed on a couple of the teams prior, 1280 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: but you know, only just playing the fifty six games there, 1281 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: and on a Thunder team that like basically told him 1282 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: to sit it down once again, and all that sure 1283 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: snubs the. 1284 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Biggest And sorry, Andrew, is that too low? Is SGA 1285 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 2: went too low? 1286 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Call? Can't hear you? 1287 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: I was double muted here. Yeah, No, I think it's 1288 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 3: I think it's a good spot for Shay. He's he's 1289 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: got to play seventy plus games to uh to even 1290 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 3: sniff all NBA seventh team. 1291 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, but I also like I wasn't even going 1292 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: to include him or Fox and like you'll see when 1293 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I get to like the snubs for guards. But at 1294 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: a certain point it's like, I guess it's like the 1295 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Lebron things, like these guys are better than a lot 1296 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: of the guys that I'm gonna say on the snubs list. 1297 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: It's just like disappointing seasons in the sense of win 1298 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: loss records or games play and stuff like that. 1299 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 2: But through me, yeah, he'll have his time. 1300 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So just this is fun. Center snubs yaka 1301 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: pearnl that that one hurt great year from Pearl became 1302 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: a phenomenon on with the word game, so I had 1303 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: him in the mix. Capello is there. He's always in 1304 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: the running for one of these. Wendell Carter Junior really 1305 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: good season for the Atlanta Magic at the at the 1306 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: center position as an undersized center. Steven Adams numbers aren't there, 1307 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: but we know he's good. And then Christian wood porzingis 1308 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: only played fifty one games, So that's the center stubs. 1309 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Anyone else I'm I'm missing that. You want to make 1310 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: a case for probably not. We've listed every center in 1311 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: the league at this point. 1312 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 4: Where much. 1313 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. That's good, that's good. 1314 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Kevon Looney was one of only five players to play 1315 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 2: all eighty two games this season. 1316 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Where yeah, okay, uh snubs for the forward position. Did 1317 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: you notice, uh Lee one particular team that didn't. I 1318 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: didn't have either of their forwards in one of your favorite. 1319 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 5: Teams one of my favorite teams. Oh yeah, well maybe 1320 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 5: it doesn't really narrow it Dan at all. 1321 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: It's your favorite place to see a game and mine 1322 01:01:59,000 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: the Fortress. 1323 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 4: No, I was a real All NBA player last year. 1324 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, Julius, Well so J Barrett was the one I 1325 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 5: was seeing if he made any. 1326 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: O J Barrett and Julius random. Yeah, I didn't. 1327 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 4: I didn't think Randall was a real All NBA player 1328 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 4: last year. 1329 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think Randal was gonna make it. 1330 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 5: But Barrett had a pretty solid twenty and a bout. 1331 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah you think that, and then you go look at it. 1332 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. I was like, I'll put 1333 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Barrett on, yeah, good old Canadian boy too, and then 1334 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna leave Randall off. And then I'm like, oh, 1335 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: j Barrett had in some categories the worst season than 1336 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: ur Je Barrett. Oh sorry, than random random that it 1337 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: wasn't amazing. 1338 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 5: Randall's a bit like Harden. I think he ended up 1339 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 5: averaging twenty and ten, but he just did not have 1340 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 5: the season that he had last season. You know, his 1341 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 5: shooting was down and just his impact was down as well. 1342 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 5: But to still just put up twenty and ten's when 1343 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 5: you're having a bad season. It's a pretty incredible effort. 1344 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 5: Twenty and ten used to be like, how can you 1345 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 5: leave a guy off all NBA if he's averaging twenty 1346 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 5: and ten? Now it's like barely get you on in 1347 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 5: some cases. 1348 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Barrett Barrett started this year and Randall had a 1349 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: rough year, so I just kept them both off. We'll 1350 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: see if the Knicks fans care at all. Boy on Bogdanovich, 1351 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: he's still the guy just scores eighteen points a game 1352 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: every season, I feel like for the Jazz, so he's 1353 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: a snub. Kyle Kuzma, Yeah, OK, perfect snub, perfect snub 1354 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: for this. Cam Johnson obviously playing on a great Suns team, 1355 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't really have the numbers. And then Jeremy Grant 1356 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: he only played forty seven games, so that really kept 1357 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: him out of contention here and then the guards listen 1358 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: to these guards, well, where's Westbrook? Do you put Westbrook 1359 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: on one of these teams league or. 1360 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 5: As No, But the same thing with Hadden. I think 1361 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 5: someone had a stat the other day. Westbrook led the 1362 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 5: team in rebounds, assists, steals and was second in points, 1363 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 5: and it was like, oh man, it did not feel 1364 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 5: like that at all. So but no, you can't have 1365 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 5: you can't. He just wasn't good enough this season. 1366 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's a snub. I have Lowry as a snub. 1367 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I think he's obviously a great player still, but you know, 1368 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: they didn't miss a chunk of time there. These numbers 1369 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: are not going to wow you is smart, great defensive 1370 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 1: player similar to Lowry in that sense. Tyrase MAXI, Mike Conley, 1371 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,919 Speaker 1: Terry Rozier, Reggie Jackson I thought had like a much 1372 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: better season statistically than I. You know, in my head, 1373 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I was like, well, man, he sort of carried the 1374 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Clippers at times, and I see him always have these 1375 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: big games. I think I look at his numbers and 1376 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, it's classic Reggie Jackson where it's 1377 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: like not that efficient, but you know, has been asked 1378 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to do a lot and at times has really come 1379 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: through for them. 1380 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 4: So he's scored a lot of clutch points. 1381 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He did. Gary Trent Junior for the Raps, 1382 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: a pretty dominant you know year from distance at least 1383 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: and scoring the ball. Kate Cunningham obviously, Piston's rookie, D'Angelo Russell. 1384 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Perfect snub, Anthony Simons, Jordan Poole, Jalen Green, and Kevin 1385 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Porter Junior. That's it. I'm missing ten. 1386 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson. 1387 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Brunson sure put him on. I love it. Anyone else. 1388 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Surprise, Jordan Pool's a wild one. I had a really 1389 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 2: good season, led the league in free throw percentage. Shocking 1390 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 2: to me. Two point five. 1391 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people are saying, don't forget about Sidik Bay. 1392 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: That's the perfect way to end. So there are my 1393 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: all NBA ten teams one through ten. Let me know 1394 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: what you agree or disagree with. Who is too high, 1395 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: who is too low? Who should have been on? What 1396 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: was the name? I didn't say? Have at it as 1397 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: you are in the stream team in the YouTube comments 1398 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: and tweet at me if you want at g E 1399 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 1: st skeets. Always always a fun time putting those together. Okay, 1400 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: let's take one more break, Lee when we come back, 1401 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: tweeted the night count. Wait, okay, back with nodunks here, 1402 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 1: let's get your tweeted the. 1403 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Night tweet out the night Wow. 1404 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Twitter, All right, lely, what do you got man? 1405 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 5: I've got a good three pata. Twitter used to be 1406 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 5: fun when you could have some you know, make fun 1407 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 5: of people with that at getting too nasty, And that's 1408 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 5: what really happened. I think yesterday the Orlando Magic sent 1409 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 5: out to tweet fun tweet they said, I'm out for 1410 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,439 Speaker 5: the season officially see all in the four. Making fun, 1411 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 5: of course of Lebron, who tweeted that on April Fool's Day, 1412 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 5: turned out to be rather h what's the word when 1413 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 5: you and you sort of predict something anyway? Yes, prophetic, 1414 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 5: that's right, Yes, anyway, so stat muse who you know? 1415 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 5: They like to stir things up on Twitter, They replied 1416 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 5: and said, you know, well, look, Lebron's had one hundred 1417 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 5: and seventy four wins in the playoffs in his career. 1418 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 5: Orlando Magic have only fifty nine wins in the playoffs 1419 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 5: all time. Thinking that they had zing the Magic for 1420 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 5: the Magic to respond very very nicely by replying with 1421 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 5: their own tweet from a few weeks ago here when 1422 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 5: they just said, stat muse, this is you know, we 1423 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 5: don't usually read their replies that after doing so in 1424 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 5: the past a few weeks, we've realized too little of 1425 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 5: it is actual sports discussion. We're experimenting with temporarily disabling 1426 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 5: it to see if we can improve signal, reduce noise, 1427 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 5: and cultivate a more focused stat music community. And their 1428 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 5: Magic just tweet that picture with the word ratio and 1429 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 5: they got burned. They got burned, stat Mus. Afterwards, there 1430 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 5: was another tweet they just said, well played. They took 1431 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 5: that one on the gin. And that's the way Twitter 1432 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 5: should be. You know, you can have some fun, you 1433 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 5: throw out a little something, you get zinged in return, 1434 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 5: you say okay, you got me, and you move on. 1435 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 5: So well done stat Mus and Orlando Magic. 1436 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Okay, well done all around. 1437 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 4: Lee. 1438 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Do you like your stat muse Twitter account having a 1439 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: personality or did you like it when it was just stats? No. 1440 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 5: Look, they've had a few hits for sure, you know, 1441 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,439 Speaker 5: but they also they definitely like to create conversation. I'll 1442 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 5: say that devisive list oft times, you know, but they've yeah, 1443 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 5: they they've they've taken their hits, but they've yeah, look 1444 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 5: they've had some good tweets as well, So keep it up. 1445 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 5: Just don't get into the nasty sort of like name 1446 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 5: calling and the vitriol that we always see basically on 1447 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 5: anything that gets tweeted these days. It ends up just 1448 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 5: being like a slanging match between people and counts, and 1449 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 5: it's it's just no fun when it's like that. 1450 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: It was. It is a weird initial tweet from the Magic. 1451 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I will say, like it's I guess it's funny, of 1452 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 1: course because it's a parody on Lebron, But it's like, 1453 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't really see the correlation all that much Like 1454 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to be another brutal season exactly. 1455 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 5: You don't. You don't want to be promoting the fact 1456 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 5: that it is the plane tournament in the years. 1457 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just weird. 1458 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 2: But you still got a tweet in the off season. 1459 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 2: Yeah that's good, your account doesn't shut down. Yeah, it's 1460 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 2: going to be heat O Turgo's birthday someday. You know, 1461 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 2: you got to say happy birthday. 1462 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 5: I didn't they have The Magic had something about their 1463 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 5: leader and assists. 1464 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,640 Speaker 1: I think with Shelvin that's right. 1465 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 5: It's like three point eight is the seasons. 1466 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 4: An ending tweet from the Orlando Magic is hotly anticipated. 1467 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 4: Why are they coming Outlet. 1468 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: Me love it? Okay, great great tweets there for tweet 1469 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: of the night. Let's call it there. Emailing your NBA 1470 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: questions too. 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If 1475 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: you go to the Athletic dot Com slash No Dunks, 1476 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 1: they know that we sent you, so you're helping us, 1477 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: help them, help yourself because you get a great subscription 1478 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: and you can listen to all of these podcasts if 1479 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 1: you want ad free through the Athletic app. On tomorrow's show, 1480 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, we're gonna recap tonight's two playing games again. 1481 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: If you want to hear us talk about them, check 1482 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 1: out yesterday's podcast Cavs Nets Clips Wolves. Tonight we were 1483 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: split on who wins that second game clips Wolves. I 1484 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: think in the end, correct me if I'm wrong. We 1485 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: all took the Nets in the first game, is that right? Yes, 1486 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: everybody took Brooklyn to get the seventh seeds. So we'll 1487 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: see if that happens. If it does, or whoever wins 1488 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: that game between Eveland and Brooklyn, they'll be taken on 1489 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Boston and we'll start doing our deep dive on tomorrow's 1490 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: podcast about those other Eastern Conference playoff matchups. So obviously 1491 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Boston against whoever they're playing in the seventh seed. We've 1492 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 1: got the Bucks Bulls to talk about a little more detail, 1493 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: and we've got the Sixers Raptors, and we'll make our 1494 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: official predictions for those series, and then you know, we'll 1495 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: do the whole thing again on Thursday when we get 1496 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: to the Western Conference. But tonight some games on Iced 1497 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: to have basketball back in our life, and we'll be 1498 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: back to break them down. TENNAM Eastern Live here on YouTube. 1499 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: If you're new to the show, subscribe and like the 1500 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: video and new note breaks coming up later today in 1501 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Mere Hours with special guest Lee Ellis to talk about 1502 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,519 Speaker 1: the Australian GP. Why are you laughing? Have you even 1503 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 1: watched the race? League. 1504 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I've watched the I've been doing some research on it. 1505 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. 1506 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay, show, I want. 1507 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 4: To be asking Lee a lot about, you know, just 1508 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 4: driving in Australia in particular, just what it's like, you know. 1509 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, the other side of the road. It's crazy. 1510 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, No Breaks has its own YouTube feed. 1511 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: It's on podcast feed. So if you want to listen 1512 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: to Trey and Graydon every basically every week talk about 1513 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: the the f one season, subscribe to No Breaks. It's 1514 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: a it's a lot of fun and you'll learn a 1515 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: lot too from those guys, and you know, have some 1516 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 1: laughs with Leeley today. That'll be a lot of fun. Okay, 1517 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: enjoy the games tonight. Andrew, thank you so much. I 1518 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: know you're on No Breaks later today, but thank you 1519 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: so much for filling in for JD in theory. He's 1520 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: back and we're back in the Classic Factory tomorrow. But 1521 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: you killed him man, Hopefully you had some fun. Yeah, 1522 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: it's been great. 1523 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Out of the yard, back into the factory. 1524 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Who's who's first up? Who's getting the first OKC Thunder interview? 1525 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 3: I think we've got s g A coming up here 1526 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 3: in a little bit we'll get giddy and dort this morning. 1527 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, well tell please tell SGA that 1528 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 1: I had him on my all NBA ten. All right, guys, 1529 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much until no breaks later today. Clipper bros. 1530 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up. 1531 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome. 1532 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow. And 1533 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 2: remember this is a message that goes up to Andy 1534 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 2: and Linda Peel in England. No Dunks is thinking about you. 1535 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: Embrace the day people. 1536 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 2: You could stay every day, Dan, you happy, every minute