1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdown. What's Up, guys, Welcome into 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: by Matt money Smith. We're taping this just really minutes 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: after Kellen Moore's introductory press conference as offensive coordinator of 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers. Money a bit of a stunner compared 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to you know what we thought the charge we're gonna 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: do last week? You know, you and I talked about 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody. I think we mentioned Kellen Moore's name 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: in passing, not thinking that this would be like a 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: real possibility. But here we are. Well, I think the 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: one thing that you know, and by no means am 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: I doing this to say, hey, we know what we're 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: talking about. But I think it was evident. You know, 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: we said, hey, either you know they're not crazy about 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: these candidates, nobody has really jumped out at him, or 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: they're just waiting for Frank Reich to see if he's 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: available and then they'll hire someone. But I think the 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: hiring of Kellen just kind of shows you that, you know, 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: perhaps none of those other candidates really wowed him, and 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the second Kellen became available, they interviewed, they hired, and 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: he was their guy, So I think it, to me, 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: that's encouraging. You know. That means it's an offense they respect, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: it's an offensive coordinator and coach that they respect, and 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: it's someone that they were determined to not get out 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: of the building like we we do not. You know, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: their reports were out of Tampa that they desperately wanted him, 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, down there, so we know he had other options, 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: and the Chargers the second that became available, immediately seized 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: upon the opportunity, made sure the compensation was right so 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: we didn't feel like he had to leave and take 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: another interview and locked him up. And you know, so 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: like that part of it to me is great. I 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: think had you know, they interviewed Zach Robinson, nothing against him, 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: but you know, a week and a half ago, and 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: then two weeks later, oh yeah, he's our OC, I'd 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: be like oooh, you know, you'd think if he if 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: he the guy, you would have just hired him right 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: away to make sure that he didn't end up somewhere else. Yeah, 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and you see McVey hire Michael Floor with all these 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: guys already in the building too, you know, So I'm 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: not saying that they're not great coaches, and you know 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: they won't eventually be offensive coordinators or head coaches. But 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: good on the Chargers for kind of waiting this thing 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: out and pouncing on the guy that was the right 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: guy and it's not necessarily the Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan Tree. 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Kellen has a really cool background in terms of the 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: coaches and really players that he's learned from. You know, 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: you go back to Boise Stay with Chris Peterson playing 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: for Jim Caldwell, you know, a quarterback guru, learning from 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett who kind of runs that Eric Corriel offense, 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: and then getting an education with Mike McCarthy on the 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: West Coast offense. So he has so many different backgrounds 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: and I know he'll just cater what he does best 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: to this Chargers team. He said, we're gonna make the 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: best offense for the twenty twenty three Chargers. So just 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: overall takeaways we just heard from him money. Yeah, you know, 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I like that he's a quarterback. You know, I think 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: there's a special connection that can you know, we talked 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: about that last week as well. Like nothing against you know, 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: former running backs. It's just you rarely see it, you know, 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: it seems like the most successful play callers tend to 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: be former quarterbacks or offensive linemen, just players that had 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of responsibilities on each and every snap and 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, centers, quarterbacks, things like that. So I do 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: like that he has that connection with justin you know, 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I think I do think there is something that's important 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: about you know. I mean, I guess when you're talking 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: about doctors, it's bedside manner. I'm not trying to, you know, 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: compare football coaches to that, but I do think there's 70 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: the ability to communicate, the ability, the ability to see things, 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: to connect on that level, not just you know, someone 72 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: that played in high school in college, but some of 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: the played six years in the NFL as quarterback is 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: going to go a long way in terms of the system. 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: I love. Like part of me likes that it's not 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: someone from Shanahan and McVeigh because then I think you're 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: hiring the system, you're not hiring the person. You know. 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of the you know we've talked about when 79 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: when talking about games, I don't like plays. I like players, 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, tab the player to make the play, as 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: opposed to oh, I drew this up and this is 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: going to catch it. Like, I think that's what this 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: hire suggests. We weren't married to the idea that we 84 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: had to hire someone from this particular system. You know. 85 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: They hired the best coordinator that they felt was available 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: and that they were excited to get in here. Um, 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, and Kellen and his pressor today, you know, 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: was asked, you know, what, what's the core? You know, 89 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: what's the nucleus of the offense? How would you describe it? 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: And he, you know, detailed kind of exactly what you do? 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Did Chris. He's like, you know, it's I've been very 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: lucky to play for all these people and learn from 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: each of their systems and take something from it and 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: try to figure out what works, you know. And then 95 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: he also said, you know, just remember though that the 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: offense that we're going to run is the twenty twenty 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: three Chargers offense and it's dependent not bringing my Cowboys 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: offense here and saying, all right, everybody learned this. He's like, 99 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I gotta figure out what we got and that's the 100 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: offense we're gonna build. But yeah, you mentioned it, you know. 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: The Dallas offense from Garrett was he was an air 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: kore Ll guy. That's what he ran and what he 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: believed in, and he passed that on to Kellen. You know, 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: we know coach Pete was super creative at Boise I 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: mean one of the most creative play callers that we saw. 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, you think is some of the great trick 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: plays that he would run and just catching defense is 108 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: flat footed repeatedly. I mean, Kellen was fifty and three 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: at Boise State, you know, as a starter. So you've 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: got that success, you know, Mike McCarthy bringing the West 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Coast offense from Green Bay with him and asking Kellen 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: to adopt some of those things. So someone who's got 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: a you know, sort of a pretty detailed a number 114 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: of different details on his resume of offenses that he's 115 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: been exposed to what he's run. And you can't argue 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Chris with the numbers. I mean, statistically, the Cowboys offense 117 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: has either been, you know, in twenty nineteen and twenty 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: twenty one the best offense in terms of yards. I 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: think in twenty one it was number one in scoring 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: and in yards. So he's a guy that can you know, 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and put some points on a board. Yeah, I go 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: back to the fifty and three market Boys estate when 123 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback or offensive coordinator rather that can 124 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of speak the same language as your quarterback, like 125 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Justin will know you know what Kellen has been through, 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: you know, and vice versa. You know. So, so I 127 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: think that that's really important. Fifty and three you mentioned it. 128 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: One hundred and forty two touchdowns to twenty eight picks 129 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: in college, he was one of the best college quarterbacks 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, so to get him in the 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: building with Justin obviously they have a relationship. We've seen 132 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: the commercials. The commercials are pretty good. Is that Is 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: that just like an Idaho commerci Like, where's that from? Yeah, 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a Northwest it's a company that's based in the Northwest. 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: And obviously Kellen at Boise and Justin at Eugene, and 136 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: we know how important that part of the country is 137 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: to Justin and to Kellen for that matter. And apparently 138 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: it was just you know in vander Esh as well, right, 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: lazy guys. So you got those three guys. Yeah, I 140 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: think it's a regional commercial. And and you know, in 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: the presser, if the people listening or watching didn't see 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: it or hear it, um, you know, Kellen mentioned us 143 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: three days that they were together for three days and 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: that you know, he really didn't have a chance to 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: get to know Justin prior to that, but felt like 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: he got to you know, know him pretty well over 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: those three days. So that's pretty cool to be able 148 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: to you know, make that connection. And you would assume, 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was a great interaction because when Justin, 150 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, was informed, Hey, Callen's going to be available, 151 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: he probably said, go go get them ting to do this. 152 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: So there's that, you know, just connection between these two. Yeah, 153 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: and Kellen was kind enough to join us on zoom 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: this morning, and really just it seems like a relikable 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: guy is somebody who can get along with a lot 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: of the players. He said, he's texted, he's called players, 157 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: and he's excited to learn more about the personnel that 158 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: he has here. Also said that he's really happy with 159 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the staff that's in place. I think a quarterback coach 160 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: still needs to be hired money. But what'd you make 161 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: of that that a lot of these guys that were 162 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: on the staff last year seemed to be going to 163 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: carry over. I guess yeah, So, I mean, I guess 164 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: I can just go through it for the people that, 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, I took a bunch of notes of what 166 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: other people asked, but I'll just go through what I 167 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: asked him. When I had the opportunity to engage with him, 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: I already mentioned, you know, the nucleus that you know, 169 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: and of what he had kind of described. But I, 170 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: you know, I decided to end on kind of a 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: light note. I ended up asking the last question. I 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: was kind of half joke. I mean, his his brother, 173 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, was under Kalen de Boor, who's done an 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: incredible job at Washington. They did an incredible job, you know, 175 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: at all of their stops together, and this last year 176 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: at Fresno State. You know, Jake Hayner's gonna get drafted, 177 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, and he's not gonna get drafted on his 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: measurables or on his his physical abilities. He's a smart quarterback. 179 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: He was put in really good positions by Kirby Moore. 180 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: You know, Kellen's brother, who was hired as the OC 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: at Missouri. M I'd be interested, you know, and I said, hey, 182 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna bring your brother on staff to 183 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: be your QB coach. You know. Now, his brother was 184 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He wasn't a quarterback. But you know 185 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: we see that all the time. Um, you know, different 186 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: guys from different positions being different coaches. So, like I said, 187 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: I was only half joking. It's like, look, man, he 188 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: did a great job this last year with Fresno State, 189 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: UM and with Jake Hayner. So I'd be interested if 190 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't a possibility, U you know, in terms of 191 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: kind of that quarterback coach, because you would assume it's 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: gonna be He's gonna have a probably the most input. Um, 193 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, he or fifty fifty between he and Coach 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Staley in terms of who they want. But I'm sure 195 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be someone that Kellen's gonna work 196 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: very closely, So he's gonna want to have some sort 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: of say. Now, you know, Shane Day was a Brandon 198 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Staley higher paired up with Lombardi. You know, Lombardi came 199 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: from New Orleans, Shane came from Kyle Shanahan's staff. So 200 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: it's possible that it's just someone that Brandon has in mind. 201 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's I don't think it's out 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: of the question. I mean, you're talking about you know, 203 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, who's had four years as an OC. It's yes, 204 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: he's young, but guys from Colin plays for four years, 205 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: so he's got plenty of experience. You could bring in 206 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: somebody that's not necessarily been around the NFL for for 207 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a while. So, um, hey, if it happens, you you 208 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: you've investigated this. You you kind of pulled this out 209 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: of the last question the press. Well, well, the Petros 210 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: brought it up yesterday, you know he because, yeah, he 211 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: called a couple of friends no state games, and when 212 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Kellen was hired, he mentioned He's like, man, his brother 213 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Kirby coordinated the hell out of that Fresno offense. He's like, 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were really good. And I just know, 215 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you know from covering the draft that there's been a 216 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of buzz around Jake. You know, he's down at 217 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and there's buzz about you know, hey, 218 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: this could end up being the one quarterback that raises 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: his hand at the Senior Bowl. You know, don't be surprised. 220 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: So I know that that was possibility. So that's it 221 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: was just kind of like me sort of you know, 222 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: paying attention to what was happening around me and what 223 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: people have been talking about and knowing that that Kirby 224 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, was doing a really great job up at Fresno. Yeah, 225 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: so Brandon Staley and Kellen Moore were kind of matching 226 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: with the preseason joy practices, and I think that that's 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of where that relationship kind of started. Just you know, 228 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: we had these just so and most people have been 229 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: to training kid that watch or listen to this podcast, 230 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: but if you haven't. There's two fields. There's offense versus defense, 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: and you know vice versa on the other side. So 232 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Staley calling the defense for the Chargers, 233 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore calling the offense for the Cowboys. These two 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: young up and coming coaches. Uh, we're kind of matching 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: wits in the preseason. So I think it's pretty cool 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: that they've joined forces. And Kellen Money was very complimentary 237 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: of the way Brandon calls a defense and the fact 238 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that that Staley was a former quarterback and can kind 239 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: of see the game from the eyes of the quarterback 240 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: calling a defense. So you have to imagine that these 241 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: guys will bounce a bunch of ideas off of each 242 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: other and that that iron sharp and iron cliche applies 243 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: here for sure, yeah, you know, and I think that's 244 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: that's important. It just goes to show you, you know, 245 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: these joint practices and what teams take away, you know, 246 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and just building relationships, finding staffs that you're comfortable with. 247 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, we know that you know, Sean and Anthony, 248 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Anthony Lynn loved practicing against one another 249 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: just in respect. That was there and and I do 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: think that probably went a long way, you know in 251 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: this higher is that you know, he and Brandon looked 252 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: they're both football chunkies, they're both former quarterbacks. You know, 253 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: it's not surprising that the two of them were chatting, 254 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, in those joint practices, and he mentioned after 255 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: practice they would kind of hang out and chop it 256 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: up a little bit and talk offense versus defense and 257 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: the fact that they're both you know, like I said, 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: former quarterbacks. That and you know, that was something he 259 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: specifically mentioned that he loves the way you know that 260 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: the coach Staley calls defense because he calls it through 261 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: the eyes of a quarterback and he can see that 262 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: in the way that he calls defense and the advantage 263 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: that he has and in doing that. So yeah, no 264 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: doubt joint practices went a long way. Spending those few days, 265 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months before that with Justin 266 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: I think went a long way. And and I think 267 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: it shows and how fast this got put together, just 268 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, and he had said, now, this was not 269 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: something that was bubbling under for a while. He's like, 270 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: it happened this weekend. We had to talk. Everything was 271 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: great and I'm here. So that's I think that's a 272 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: product of the fact that there's familiarity and respect, mutual 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: respect from all parties. Yeah, Kellen Moore is getting head 274 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: coaching interviews. His numbers kind of speak for themselves. But 275 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're in a position where you have a 276 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: coach like Mike McCarthy who called place in a Super Bowl, 277 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know, he has a way that he 278 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: calls offense too. He thought that highly of Kellen Moore 279 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: to keep him on staff and to kind of run 280 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: the offense and listen, when you're kind of where the 281 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are at, just like where the Chargers were at, 282 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: you kind of hit a wall and you want to 283 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: mix it up, you want to change things up, and 284 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that like like Kelen, he kind of nailed it. 285 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: He just said, Hey, change can be a good thing, 286 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, So we mutually decided to kind of go 287 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: our separate ways. He's happy for the way the Cowboys 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: are gonna do things, and he's happy for his opportunity. 289 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: And then you kind of push it forward to this 290 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Chargers offense, what it's going to look like. Obviously, 291 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: we know the pieces that are in place, like Kellen 292 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: knows the pieces that are in place. You brought up 293 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: a good question about just the way that Zeke and 294 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Pollard were used, and he mentioned Eckler and everything that 295 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Austin's done in this league. And obviously Austin's gonna have 296 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: a probably a huge year with Kellen Moore Colin plays, 297 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: But that second running back, he mentioned Joshua Kelly. But 298 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: he also said, hey, we may want to get two 299 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: or three guys in here and see who kind of 300 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: wins that challenge. Yeah, he's you know, specifically said just 301 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: in his opinion the days of a twenty five carry 302 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: back or over. So's it's just it's not it's not 303 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the way it operates in twenty twenty three. And I 304 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: do think it speaks, you know, to his to his 305 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: coaching acumen and to his comfortability with players to say 306 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: to someone like Zeke and to Jerry Jones, who gave him, 307 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, eighty million dollars, you know what, Zink, I 308 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the bell cow anymore? You know, we this 309 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't work like that, you know. And he 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: was paid to be that, and it was an offer. 311 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Member of the whole debate about do you pay Dak 312 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: do you pay Zeke? And you know, Jerry Jones is 313 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: this is an offense. It's built around Zeke Elliott. He's 314 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the centerpiece of you know. So you've got a guy 315 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: who's thirty one that's going to Jerry Jones and saying, hey, 316 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad you handed him that eighty million bucks. But 317 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like running this tony guy a little 318 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: bit more, you know, and I feel like we're in 319 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: a bet. So to me, that speaks to you know, 320 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: him not caring about you know, money plays, draft status, plays, 321 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: gotta make the GM look good, gotta make the you know, 322 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: because he handed out the extension because he drafted the 323 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: guy had no just whatever, man, you'll you'll look good 324 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: if we win games. And then everybody stays employed and 325 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: makes a bunch of money and it's great. And I think, 326 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's what you saw from the Tony Pollard, 327 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, emergence and the reduced role and by the way, 328 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: the success, just the fact that it worked. You know, 329 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to stick his neck out and 330 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: say this is the way we need to run this 331 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: knowing that you're putting a target on your chest now 332 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: because you know you're you're taking carries and you know, 333 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: and opportunities away from someone who's been in the discussion 334 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: is the best running back in the league. So that's 335 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's very exciting me, you know, 336 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: because I think that's such an important part of being 337 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a coordinator is not being afraid to call um or 338 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, to call upon a player or to call 339 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: a play that you believe in because of consequences, you know, 340 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: fear of consequences and just playing it safe and being like, well, 341 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: of course we handed the ball to Zeke twenty five times. 342 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: He's our bell, Kyle, you know, that's what we do. 343 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: And then the then the Blaine, you know, where the 344 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: analysis can fall upon the player as opposed to the 345 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: play callers. So I appreciate that from him and look, 346 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: I think josh we talked about it, you know, Joshua Kelly, 347 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I thought, had a very good year with the opportunities 348 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: he was given. Very excited about what he's going to 349 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: be able to do, you know, to be that hammer 350 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: for for Kellen Moore. And I say Ash Spiller for 351 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: that matter. You know, you're gonna have three backs in camp. 352 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: You know who's the fourth, don't know, but I think 353 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have Spiller and Joshua and Austin and it's 354 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about them, you know, running in this 355 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: this Kellen Moore offense. Yeah, first of all, Kellen got 356 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard paid where wherever he's going in March, He's 357 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: gonna get a big He's gonna get a big pay bump, 358 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: because it's easy to keep a guy in when he 359 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: breaks off thirty yard runs, fifty yard runs, sixty yard 360 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: receptions on a weekly basis. The way that Zeke and 361 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: Pollard complimented each other was really the reason why the 362 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys were so successful this year, because you know, Dak 363 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: had his interception issues and frankly, Kellen's getting a different 364 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: quarterback in Justin. Justin can push the ball down the field. 365 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: It may have been you two money who asked a 366 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: question about speed with with Jalen guit and going down 367 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and how important speed is to an offense. Those are 368 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: things that I think will be decided to hear in 369 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: the next couple of months, whether it be free agency 370 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: or the draft. Maybe that that extra running back is 371 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: someone they draft. Maybe there's a speed receiver in the 372 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: draft or free agency that the Chargers will target to 373 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: really complete this twenty twenty three offense. So you know, 374 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: he was complimentary the line. Obviously, when you have Corey 375 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Lindsley is you're all pro center and Rashawn Slater coming back, 376 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: young pieces like Trey Pipkins and Zion that's a good thing. 377 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: But I do think that there's uh, just a lot 378 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: of pieces to this pie that are still out there 379 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: that we will see in free agency in the draft, 380 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and you better believe Kellen Moore is gonna have a 381 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: big say in kind of the personnel he wants to see. Yeah, 382 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt there's a speed receiver 383 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: in their future. You know, based on his answer, he 384 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: just so you can't coach it. It changes everything. So 385 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see you know, at least 386 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: some depth there beyond you know, Jalen gotta get a 387 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: fast guy out there. He did mention though, a lot 388 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: of what coach Lombardi and Staley had said that you know, 389 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: there's there's other ways to get the ball down field. 390 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, obviously you can't argue with you know, Mike 391 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Williams ability to win fifty fifty balls. He talked about 392 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: the route running of Keenan just and how easily he 393 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: gets open. He's like that stuff. You know, that's yeah, 394 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: that's legit. There's ways to get the ball down field 395 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: with that, he said, But you can't coach speed and ross. 396 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Speed is important, and that leads me to believe. And look, 397 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: I think the one thing to remember too is like, 398 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, look there's free agents on the Cowboys. You 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, it could be interesting. You mentioned Tony Pollard. 400 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's probably gonna be a little 401 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: bit too much of a big ticket item. But you know, 402 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's Dalton Schultz, you know, who's played really good 403 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: tight end down there. He's a free agent. You know, Um, 404 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: it could be you know a lot of times look 405 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: at what coach Lombardi did by bringing Chase Daniel with him. 406 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he brings Cooper Rush with him. Um, 407 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, so you're and and then just like look 408 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: at Ryan Ficken, right, he brought JK. Scott over and said, hey, 409 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: this guy was So you've got a new set of 410 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: eyes to some degree, a new scout to help out 411 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Tom and and in the front office of hey, these 412 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: are these are some players that maybe were underappreciated, much 413 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: like J. K. Scott. You know, I know the numbers 414 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: weren't pretty, but I had to play against him, and 415 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I know how good you know, and you saw how 416 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: that paid off, how how much that paid off for 417 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers this year. So I would be very surprised 418 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: if we didn't find players that were in Kellen Moore's 419 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: orbit on this roster, you know, be it backups, depth 420 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: pieces that can help teach the offense. Like to me, 421 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I look, I would love for 422 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: Easton Stick to be back. I do think he's been 423 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: real important to Justin. I'm in that quarterback room. He's 424 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: an incredibly smart player. Um, how many wins does Easton 425 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Stick and Kelly Moore have combined? Money like ninety six 426 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: wins in college or something crazy or what was what 427 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: was sick forty nine and three? I think stick, I 428 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: think Easton was forty nine. So you got ninety nine 429 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: wins between you got fifty and three and yeah, so yeah, 430 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, that'll be interesting because that's Look, 431 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: the reason Chase was on the on the roster was 432 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: because of coach Lombari is just knowledge of the offense, 433 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: and Justin certainly appreciated that. So like I could see 434 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: that happen in a former backup in Dallas end up 435 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: coming over. Um, I do think tight ends. Look, we 436 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: know how important tight ends are and cheese. We just 437 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: saw it, you know, and this Dallas Goddard and Travis 438 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Kelsey and how important Hayden Hurst for the Bengals, you know, 439 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: George Kittle for the forty nine ers. I mean, look 440 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: at the conference championship games. So that's a possibility. Didn't 441 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: DJ have the tight it from Utah in his first 442 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: boxing to Dalton kincaide, Yeah, I know I've mentioned it here. 443 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: Look I'm I'm looking through a red tinted glasses because 444 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: I called the game against USC when he had like 445 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty yards in that win and they 446 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: had absolutely zero answers for him, so draftwise, I think 447 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the other thing to remember too, Chris, is just how 448 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: important THEO line is to Dallas and how important that 449 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: was to their success and how much they invested in 450 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line repeatedly interior you know, Travis Fredrick, Zach 451 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: Martin on the edges, Collins and Smith and you know 452 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: so and he mentioned Corey by name, you know, someone 453 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: that you repeatedly bring up. He did you know that 454 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: when he was asked about the offensive line, the first 455 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: thing you say, he goes, look when you got someone 456 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: like Corey Linsley Man that changes everything, And he mentioned 457 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: how valuable he is, So you know, you know that's 458 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: something that he's looking at. Um. And you know, when 459 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: you look at just what's available to him, I'm not 460 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: saying it's Zach Martin's probably the best interior lineman. Um, 461 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: He's in the conversation with Quentin Nelson. You know, Nelson 462 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: had a bit of it, you know, a step back 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: this past season. So you're talking about someone that knows 464 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: how important interior line play is. UM. That obviously with 465 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith knows how important having that left ackle is. 466 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: And I think he ends up kind of getting you know, 467 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: with Slater, someone very similar to Tyrn just set him 468 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: and forget him. He gets a great center and Corey 469 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: Linsley set it, forget it, and and now he can 470 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: play around. He kind of like how he did in 471 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Dallas with Trey and Fyler and Zion or how however 472 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: that you know and whomever that that kind of how 473 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: that how that equation gets put together. But I think 474 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: that's something that that's worth watching as well. I like 475 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: your point though about the fact that Kellen has has 476 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: seen a lot of other offensive offensive pieces throughout his 477 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: time with the Cowboys, similar to like Staley. When Staley 478 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: kind of remade this defense in year two, he had 479 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: guys that he had either coached before or had coached against, 480 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: whether it's jac Jackson or Ryce Callahan or you know, 481 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: guys from the Ramps of Baston, Joseph Day, Morgan fox Um. 482 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: So maybe it's not necessarily a Cowboy, but maybe it's 483 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: somebody in the NFC East that that was given the 484 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys fits, or somebody in the NFC that the Chargers 485 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily cross paths with. So I like that aspect 486 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of it all at all. I do think it's it's 487 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: it's refreshing. I think it's a refreshing higher. Um, it's 488 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: not exactly that that McVeigh Shanahan mold. You're getting a 489 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: mix of different trees. And frankly, I think Justin can 490 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: do everything. And if if there's some Eric Corriel mixed 491 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: in with some West Coast offense, I think Justin can 492 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: accomplish everything that Kellen wants to put out on his plate. Yeah, 493 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: no doubt. Um. And again I think for unfortunately, you know, 494 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, the lasting impression is the last impression. 495 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: And we all know what that final play was for 496 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Was he could center getting buried in 497 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, on that third and long And people 498 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: just like to make fun though, man, like, what were 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: they going to do? Obviously it was a terrible eat 500 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: it but it's a bad look, but whatever you're not 501 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: gonna I think it's much more important to remove that 502 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: one play and instead focus on four years. And when 503 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: you combine the four years, it's the number two overall 504 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, behind the Chiefs. That's what Kellen 505 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: more coordinated. Um, you know, and if you look whatever 506 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: numbers you want to go through, our friend Eric Smith 507 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: at Chargers dot com, you know, did a great piece 508 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: on on the website. Um, just kind of about what 509 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: to know about Kellen Moore, And if I had it up, 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: I'd be able to go through it because he did 511 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: a great job. But he one of the things that 512 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: he brought up was just, Okay, how do you want 513 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: to how do you want to break this down? Here 514 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: you go five things to know about oc Kellen Moore. 515 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: He's like, however, you want to break it down by 516 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: the numbers, here's what they are. And it's uh And 517 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: it was EPA, like I think I thought it was there. 518 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a different It might have been a 519 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: different Yeah, it might have been a different article. I 520 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: wish I could give credit where it was. But read 521 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: the one from Eric too. Eric. Yeah, they talk about, 522 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, expected points added in the passing game, expected 523 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: points added in the running game, expected points added on 524 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: third debt, like all of that was broken down and 525 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were top ten and everything. So you're talking 526 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: about somebody that coordinated an elite offense. Now he had 527 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: elite pieces. Pollard ze Ceedee Lamb, you know, Michael Gallop. 528 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: There's good players out there, you know, Maury Cooper, no 529 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: doubt about it. But he's got good players here. Like 530 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: that's that's my pushback to that. It's like, well, you know, 531 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: they invested heavily on offense, you know, draft capital, free agency, 532 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, they they did not they did not hold 533 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: back when it came to put an offense together. And 534 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, and he's coming to a place 535 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: that's got Justin Herbert, Austin Eckler, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, Like, 536 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: he's got weapons here. And so it's you know, those 537 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: two things, and I'm guessing that was a big part 538 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: of why he chose this job as opposed to you know, 539 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: just doing the you know, kind of doing the rounds 540 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: and seeing if he could maybe maximize a little bit 541 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: more money here or there. My guess is he just 542 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: looked at the roster and I was like, yeah, this 543 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: is gonna work. Yeah. All right's say quick break on 544 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: the other side, we'll talk about some other big news 545 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The division they've just got a little 546 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: bit tougher. 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The Pro Bowl, the new Look Pro Bowl, 555 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: is this weekend and Justin Herbert would have gone, but 556 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: he had surgery on his labor m. It was announced 557 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: by the team over the weekend. It doesn't look to 558 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: be serious. Should be ready for offseason activities. Um, but 559 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: still a big piece of news. I think it was 560 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: a left one too right left labrom so not his 561 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: throw arm. Yeah, you know he'll be fine. You know 562 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: it'll be fine. The one thing that kind of jumped 563 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: out at me when I when I saw that is 564 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe that explains why you don't necessarily want to drop 565 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: your pad level, lower your shoulder on a QB sneak 566 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: and get in the middle of all that. You know, 567 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: if you've got a bust it up laboram and it's 568 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: not feeling great, the last thing you wanted some three 569 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: hundred twenty pound guys beating on as you're trying to 570 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: get your pad level low. That was one of the 571 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: first things I thought of. Um, oh, by the way, 572 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: just you know, I did ask Kellen coach coach more 573 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: about QB sneaks, and I think it's it's not just 574 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: going back to our conversation about Jacksonville, but just what 575 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Philly does you know, and you watched Philadelphia in that 576 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: game against you know, San Francisco and they just couldn't 577 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: stop him, you know, any quarterback sneak was was, you know, 578 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: and just kind of what the rules are. And I 579 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: think Charger fans will be happy to know. He's like, oh, yeah, 580 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: we we sneak the hell out of the ball in Dallas, 581 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Like we get it all the time. He's like, there's 582 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: just such an unfair advantage with the rules being the 583 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: way they are, where you can get big guys behind 584 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: you pushing the pile. He's like, there's a reason why 585 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: you see Philly and you know he had to see 586 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: it twice a year. So I think if you're wondering 587 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: if he's gonna call jet sweeps on third and a 588 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: half yard, it's not gonna have even said like he goes, 589 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: I just don't he said, it doesn't make any sense 590 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: to hand the ball to a running back that's five 591 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: yards behind the line of scrimmage when you've got the 592 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: ball three feet away. I mean, that was his exact answer. 593 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: So I was very excited by That's what's so ironic 594 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: about how successful Philly has been with quarterback sneaks is 595 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: that Shane Steiken and Nick Sirianni with Philip Rivers for 596 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: years at the Chargers, and Philip refused to sneak the ball. 597 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: He wouldn't do it. Yeah, he would would not do it. 598 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: Doing it and he was like, I'll never do it again. 599 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: He like busted a thumb or something like that, or 600 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: a finger, and he said he wouldn't never do it again. Yeah, 601 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: it's funny. That's a great call. Uh. And now Shane 602 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: and Nick more than any it's historically like historic numbers 603 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: from Philadelphia this year. It had never been there had 604 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: never been that many sneaks on an offense. It just 605 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: goes to show you they're like buoy I'd see, look, 606 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm a jerk, but I would just I'd run somebody 607 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: else out. I'd be like, all right, Phil, get off 608 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the field, get in there, you know, Turley Whitehurst, get 609 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: in there, you're sneaking. Get in there, Callen, get out there, 610 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: you're sneaking the ball. You know, That's how I would 611 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: have dealt with that. So not kidding, like one hundred 612 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: percent would have. So the Pro Bowl games down, Derek 613 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: Carr is your Pro Bowl AFC quarterback money Tyler Huntley. 614 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley who threw two touchdown passes. Now, remember there's 615 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: no Pro Bowl this year. They're like the probe Is games. 616 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a carnival. It's carnival games. It's like 617 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: egg toss, three legged race ball, water balloon, Yeah, water 618 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: balloon toss. It's, uh, you know, a dunk tank or 619 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: something along those lines. So yeah, it's uh, they're trying. 620 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: They're trying to the thing about the NFL for those 621 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: that want to make fun of it and say, why 622 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: are we doing this? Because nine million people watched it 623 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: last year, Because it'll right, it'll rate higher than an 624 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: NBA playoff game. The Laker Clipper game was a one 625 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: point three rating. One point three. The Pro Bowl got 626 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: nine million viewers for a game that everybody knows it's ridiculous. 627 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: So maybe this year will be interesting who knows. Um, 628 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: it'll still be a banana's rating. I'm sure. Yeah, but 629 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: yes to your laborm thing. That's that's the first thing 630 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: that popped it in my head is and maybe that's right. 631 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Don't want to sneak it, kind of bust it up, 632 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: labor Yeah, good point. All right, all of the Broncos, 633 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Sean Payton is going to the AFC West, going to 634 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Denver um trade. So it's it's a first round pick 635 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: to New Orleans this year, in a second next and 636 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: then the Saints will give the Broncos the right to 637 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: Sean Payton in a third round pick, I believe in 638 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So that's how it works. A big 639 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: price to pay. But Broncos ownership, I think they knew 640 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: they needed to hit a grand slam, knowing what happened 641 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: with Russ's past year. Yeah. Look, I mean he's Sean 642 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Payton's one of the great offensive play callers in the 643 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: history of football, I mean not just currently, in the 644 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: history of football, and those Saints offenses, it didn't matter 645 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: who was out there, you know what the injury situation was, 646 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, at running back, at quarterback. I mean 647 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: that dude was putting up points. You know, probably should 648 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: have gone to a second Super Bowl, you know, on 649 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: the wrong end of a bad call against the Rams 650 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: when they went, you know, back in twenty nineteen. But 651 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: mikel Robie Coleman exactly, you know, but won a Super Bowl, 652 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl being bowled right open in the 653 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: second half with an on side kick like he's he's legit. 654 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: And that is a big higher You want to talk 655 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: about an upgrade from Nate Hackett to Sean Payton, it's 656 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: there now. Having said that, man, there's a lot of 657 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: pressure and I'm not saying you know, nowadays the cliche 658 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: is pressure as a privilege. Well, you know, when I 659 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: grew up, pressure burst pipes. That's what I used to 660 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: hear from my coaches. When they could look in your eyes. 661 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: You can be freaking out. You got two number ones 662 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: or three number ones and players that were traded for 663 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You've got a guy that's got you know, 664 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars a guaranteed money left, 665 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: and now you're gonna give you know, according to the rumors, 666 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty three million bucks a year and 667 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: another one and a two of draft capital for this guy. 668 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: It better work, man, it better work, because if it doesn't, 669 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: that is a lot of money. And it is a 670 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: lot of draft capital. What's the years did we hear? 671 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: The years? I've seen it yet? Yeah, the more interest, 672 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Like the most interesting thing to come out of that 673 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: for me is and I haven't looked today. But as 674 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: of last night, Ian Rappaport was not backing down from 675 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: his report. You know, the Bronchos called him out, said 676 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: that it is patently false, that it is completely fabricated, 677 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: but it was still there, and he said, you know, 678 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: the Bronchos were scrambling. They had a secret meeting with 679 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh trying to convince him to take the job. 680 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: He declined, and then they doubled back and tried to 681 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: convince Damiko Ryan's you know, hours before the Texans hired 682 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: him to take the job, and he said no, I'm 683 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: going to Houston and that's when they pivoted back to 684 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: Peyton and gave up what the Saints wanted and gave 685 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: Peyton what he wanted. So that's if that in fact 686 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: is true. Man, that's again pressure, like, yeah, I think 687 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you spend that to showing Peyton by saying, hey, man, 688 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: like we of course we wanted you, but we have 689 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: to give up so much to get right. That's that's 690 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the reason why we're looking at all options here. I mean, 691 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, Like that's they didn't want 692 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: to give it up, like, man, that's too much. We 693 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be paying this much and we don't 694 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: want to be giving up this draft capital. We're already sure. 695 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: So that's what I mean, Like that's the amount of 696 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: pressure that you're not wondering, Like they didn't want to 697 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: do that, according to Rappaport, but they did because they 698 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: got you know the guy, that's the two guys that 699 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: they really wanted, Harbon and Ryan's turn him down and 700 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: this was so So what I want to know is 701 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: who's going to be the backup quarterback in Denver. Who 702 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: is Sean Payton going to bring in to challenge Russ? 703 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe it'll be Russ's job undisputed going in, 704 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: but you have to imagine Sean Payton took a year off, 705 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: he watched a lot of football this past offseason. He 706 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: has relationships with quarterbacks throughout the league. I'm not saying 707 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a guy from the Saints, like as 708 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: Jamis Winson. It could be maybe, But is there going 709 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback that comes in there that knows 710 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: Sean Payton system that can potentially push Russell Wilson or 711 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: at least make it a little bit uncomfortable for him 712 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: and training him. I mean, I suppose, you know, I 713 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: don't know what the number is on Taysom Hill. You know, 714 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: it's a weird contract, so I don't know what that 715 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: looks like. But I can't imagine Andy Dalton or Jameis Winston, 716 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, pushing Russ. We do know that Sean is Look, 717 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: he's aggressive, he's abrasive, so he's you know, and I 718 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: think that's one of the big I think that's why 719 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, you saw Jim Harbaugh, you saw Sean Payton, 720 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, guys that they knew were going to get 721 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: into Russ and not you know, cater to him being 722 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: timidated by him in the least. And I think for Demiko, 723 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: you could just see his relationship with players, how good 724 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: he is with players, you know, And perhaps that was 725 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: the other approach. It's like, all right, well this maybe 726 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: this is the way we handle it. But Look, it's 727 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: an upgrade, it's a big I don't think there's any 728 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: two there's no other way to spin it. Sean Payton 729 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: can call offense man and if you're you know, I 730 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: don't know who who else they could have hired that 731 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: I would have been like, yeah, that's a better for 732 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Russ and the offense. Now, remember, look, we know what 733 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's offense looks like as we just saw it 734 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: for two years. That's not what Russ does. You know, 735 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: there have been countless people that have tried to get 736 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: Russ to get the ball out quick, to throw on time, 737 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: and it's just not the way he operates. So it'll 738 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know what Sean does, you know, 739 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: to try to maximize what Wilson has going He keep 740 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: in mind too, Tim Patrick got hurt before the season started. 741 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, who I think they need to really center 742 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: that offense around. Once he's one hundred percent, you know, 743 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's gonna have those two guys to add to 744 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: the stable of pass catchers that they have in Denverse. 745 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: And final thing, Tom Brady, it looks like this is 746 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: it now. It looks like he has retired finally, forty 747 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: five years old, twenty three years in the NFL, ten 748 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, seven titles, every record imaginable. I don't think 749 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: we'll see number twelve in an NFL uniform again. No, 750 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm you know, and my takeaways. I was convinced he 751 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: was going to the Raiders. That is everything that I 752 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: had heard, that that was done, that that there was 753 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: a report today that he was never going to leave 754 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks if he stayed. But I mean, that's what's 755 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: so strange. So like for me, that's what jumps out 756 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: of me, is Okay, now, what do you do if 757 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: that's what? Because I think that's a big reason why 758 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: they sat. You know, Derek was just to kind of signal, hey, 759 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: we're we're open for business, you know. So now I 760 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: don't know what you do? You know, is it is 761 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: it Garoppolo? Is he able to stay healthy? Do you 762 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback? I mean, I can't imagine that with 763 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, who's thirty, with Darren Waller, with Josh Jacob 764 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: like this, this offense is ready to go. It is 765 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: not ready to I mean, yeah, I suppose you could 766 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: do the Aaron Rodgers thing. That would make sense, right, 767 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: get him out there to to to pare him, and 768 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: that way you get him out of the NFC. So 769 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: that that works. Um, they get a couple picks back. Um, yeah, 770 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, so maybe that's the that's the path. Um, 771 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, and you're cutting forty million bucks in salary 772 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: and you're bringing in forty million bucks in salary, so 773 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: that works too. Um. Yeah, that's a good call. Maybe 774 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: that's the Maybe that's the direction they'll go. Imagine you 775 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: got Russ Mahomes Herbert and Aaron Rodgers. Oh, let's go 776 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: sign me up. Love it, absolutely love it? Oh man, 777 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: all right, anything else? I think next week we'll talk 778 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, kind of get get reactions from from the 779 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: week that was in the game. You know, it's it's 780 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: so hard right now because you get these practices midweek 781 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: and you'll hear who's who's hot, who's not, and we 782 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: can get a kind of a full picture next week. 783 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: M DJ's down there right follow apt move the sticks. Yeah, 784 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: he'll keep you updated him. Our friend at Bucky Brooks 785 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: both down there with NFL Network, so they'll they'll keep 786 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: you in tune to to who's who's showing out, just 787 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: like Justin did. A few years ago at the Senior Bowl. 788 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: Exactly a lot of a lot of former Senior Bowl 789 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: guys on this Chargers roster, so that you know, I 790 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: think all thirty two teams, teams really value that game. 791 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: But the Chargers have really gotten some some good talent 792 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: from Nobil. So we'll we'll recap that next week. Money. 793 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, bro Um, appreciate you guys watching and listening 794 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: for money. I'm pressed. This has been charges Weekly