Speaker 1: This is Suckers. I'm Kiln Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and
Speaker 1: I'm Jared Habn.
Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome to an all new episode of Suckers.
Speaker 1: This is Dean Bell, joined by Kaylan and Jared. Per usual,
Speaker 1: we just got back from the iHeartRadio Awards and we.
Speaker 3: Had an absolute last, very fantastic.
Speaker 1: I always dread going to things like this, but I
Speaker 1: actually had a good time this time for the first time.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like you say that a lot, and
Speaker 2: you usually do have a really good time if you
Speaker 2: have friends there. You had been there.
Speaker 1: I did have been there. I just could. I could
Speaker 1: go on the ear with Ben, I could go to
Speaker 1: I could go to a foot acupuncture class, and I
Speaker 1: was still a good time. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: I would actually really not enjoy, but yeah, I know
Speaker 1: we had a good time.
Speaker 2: We saw so many people perform. We saw Share, Jennifer Hudson,
Speaker 2: Beyonce came out on stage. She didn't perform, but she
Speaker 2: came out on stage. We saw Green Day, just Timberlake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a stacked line of Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. Ludacris.
Speaker 3: Ludacris was so good jelly Roll was good.
Speaker 1: Tate McCrae was good.
Speaker 2: Tate mccree's like so gen Z. She was good, but
Speaker 2: she's like not someone that I'm super excited to see.
Speaker 1: She was good, but she was good. She had a
Speaker 1: cool outfit. I like the boots she was in. Cameo
Speaker 1: bright orange was the exact opposite of camera cameo and orange. No,
Speaker 1: there was not a lick of camo on the stage
Speaker 1: when she was performing because hives orange and all of
Speaker 1: her dancers were in Highve's orange. But she crushed it.
Speaker 1: Who else there? I feel like we're missing someone.
Speaker 2: It was your favorite because there were so many good ones.
Speaker 2: I think share for me.
Speaker 1: I think it was cool to see share. She was
Speaker 1: lip syncing.
Speaker 2: No she wasn't. You were saying that, No she wasn't.
Speaker 1: I believe she was.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: It was really Jennifer Hudson. That just blew me away.
Speaker 1: Everyone was great, But the second Jay hud started singing
Speaker 1: it like it, I like felt it in my body,
Speaker 1: like it hit my the core of my body. I
Speaker 1: don't know. She just had such a presence and her
Speaker 1: voice was so amazing and she was just belting it out.
Speaker 1: So I think she was probably my favorite. Luda was
Speaker 1: really good, and Justin Timberlake of course was really good.
Speaker 1: But they were all they were all pretty good. I
Speaker 1: really liked it because whenever we go to stuff like this,
Speaker 1: I feel like stuff kind of like drags on for
Speaker 1: too long. But with all them, it was like two
Speaker 1: songs abbreviated songs, and so it was kind of like
Speaker 1: quick and light, and everything was kind of going by
Speaker 1: really fast, and so I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone was great. I just sent in the
Speaker 2: chat she wasn't camo.
Speaker 1: Oh she wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just sent it in the chest.
Speaker 1: She was not.
Speaker 2: She was an orange in camo. She was wearing a
Speaker 2: cameo jacket.
Speaker 1: There's nothing camo about this that you just sent me.
Speaker 1: She's wearing orange Brazil with orange brazier black shorts.
Speaker 2: Scroll down. That is a camo jacket.
Speaker 1: It's like silver. It's like listening.
Speaker 3: That is camo, all right?
Speaker 1: Well, from this from the where we were, it didn't
Speaker 1: look camo to me, I guess because it's camouflage and
Speaker 1: you can't see it. I've never heard of Taate.
Speaker 2: McCray, but you've heard her songs on TikTok.
Speaker 1: She was pretty good. She was pretty good. Really unattractive
Speaker 1: is what Ben kept saying. He's like, she's just not
Speaker 1: attractive at all because she's very pretty. She's very pretty,
Speaker 1: like stupidly pretty. Not as pretty as my wife obviously,
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously it was funny too because she's
Speaker 1: twenty and then every other performer was, you know, big
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Yeah, and then we get this girl
Speaker 1: who's twenty years old and hot on the scene. But
Speaker 1: it was good. Taylor Swift was.
Speaker 3: There, No, she wasn't.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift was there to accept her awards, but I
Speaker 1: went to.
Speaker 2: The bathroom and then I got locked out until the
Speaker 2: next commercial break in, so Dean's trying to convince me.
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift came on stage and she wasn't because I
Speaker 2: watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Accepted her awards and she was so grateful. I'm proud.
Speaker 2: No, Beyonce was there and that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Jar. Do you ever get a fomo for missing this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff?
Speaker 4: Only if there's it really depends on who's there. Obviously,
Speaker 4: when you guys are there and Ben's there, if it's
Speaker 4: a good crew going, then we always get a little
Speaker 4: foam And yeah, I had a little fomo just from
Speaker 4: the amount of star power that was there, Like Holy
Speaker 4: justin Timberlake, Beyonce was there. I would see Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 4: I don't really know any Jennifer Hudson songs, but I
Speaker 4: would love to hear her voice live. It's like if
Speaker 4: you hear go God's voice, you know, there's just like
Speaker 4: something about it.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, who.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of good voices in this world,
Speaker 4: but then there are just voices that just are cannot
Speaker 4: be replicated and you have to hear And I think
Speaker 4: people like Jennifer Hudson Go Go's got a voice like that.
Speaker 1: I think Goga is so underrated.
Speaker 4: I know she's like one of the biggest pop stars
Speaker 4: in the world, but I think that she should be
Speaker 4: like Taylor Swift level, but she's not.
Speaker 1: She's had a weird like story arc I feel like
Speaker 1: because there's always kind of a lot of like controversy
Speaker 1: around her, even though she's never really done anything to
Speaker 1: deserve it.
Speaker 3: I feel like Lady Gaga is there controversy.
Speaker 1: I just remember like a lot of stupid rumors about
Speaker 1: her when we were younger.
Speaker 2: Well, she also did like crazy stuff like she wore
Speaker 2: dress made out of meat.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's not really enough to get.
Speaker 2: Like address of raw steaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, but no, Jennifer Hudson didn't sing. She
Speaker 1: sung a Share song. So what they announced Share is
Speaker 1: like the icon of the year or something like that.
Speaker 1: And they were like and performing SHARE's song, it's Jennifer Hudson,
Speaker 1: and so we're like, oh man, we don't get to
Speaker 1: hear it Share sing, but Jennifer Hudson's gonna crush it.
Speaker 1: And she did amazing. And then after Jennifer Hudson finished
Speaker 1: theare's first song, Share came on stage for the second song.
Speaker 1: She was lip syncing, but she was.
Speaker 2: She wasn't And she's also in her seventies right, yes,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: By the way, sorry to interrupt you. I think I
Speaker 1: came to a realization when they were going through like
Speaker 1: the Share montage of her career. She's been performing for
Speaker 1: seven decades, insane for fifty something years. And when they
Speaker 1: went back it the math works out. Trust me, I
Speaker 1: did it in my head. When they were going back
Speaker 1: to Share like in her twenties and early thirties. I
Speaker 1: was watching and I was like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: think I understand why Maria is so popular in the
Speaker 1: Bachelor because.
Speaker 2: She's like share.
Speaker 1: Maria gives me young Share vibes, I think is what
Speaker 1: it is. Something about the physically, yeah, something about the face,
Speaker 1: and something about maybe like the confidence. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, but I was like, maybe that's why
Speaker 1: everyone has such a fascination with Maria because they kind
Speaker 1: of have share vibes from her too, whether they realize
Speaker 1: it or not, you know, but shares obviously a huge
Speaker 1: icon for a reason, and so maybe anyone with that
Speaker 1: same type of.
Speaker 3: Style as I don't think they're like anything like but well.
Speaker 1: Of course not shares now seventy five years ago. No
Speaker 1: young young Share, no young Share. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was just a thought, a passing thought that I had,
Speaker 1: and it kind of explained it to me why people
Speaker 1: would be so invested in Maria because they might.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, on reality TV, we spent probably like five
Speaker 2: hours of The Iheartwards with Rachel Evis. So Rachel did
Speaker 2: something really horrible. We all know that she knows that
Speaker 2: she did something really bad, but she didn't go back
Speaker 2: on vander Pump rules. She Tom Is. Tom's on it
Speaker 2: and he's getting to like redeem himself and people are
Speaker 2: forgiving him, but nobody's forgiving her. And it's the classic
Speaker 2: like we forgive the guy, but we don't forgive the
Speaker 2: girl because we put women against each other and she
Speaker 2: did something terrible. She like got treatment and has been
Speaker 2: working on herself, and I think it's time to forgive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And while we're at it, are people not forgiving.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe I don't think so. It's
Speaker 2: also hard to because she's not on the show, so
Speaker 2: she doesn't really get to like tell her side of things.
Speaker 1: You know, why is she not on the show?
Speaker 2: She decided not to and I think it was so
Speaker 2: smart for her not to do it. But then Tom's
Speaker 2: on it and Tom like people are shooting on Tom
Speaker 2: but also forgiving Tom, and I just feel bad for
Speaker 2: the girl.
Speaker 1: Tom stinks. Also Arianna stinks. Yeah, Rachel, she's great. And
Speaker 1: I've been saying this room of the get go, and
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of myself. I remember once when we
Speaker 1: first watched the reunion, we like went to a party together, right,
Speaker 1: and I was defending Rachel a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously not her.
Speaker 2: She can't defend what she did right better actions.
Speaker 1: But like her follow up of it, like the accountability
Speaker 1: she's taking and all that stuff. And you were like,
Speaker 1: would you hit me in the arm? And you'd be
Speaker 1: like stop, stop saying that. You shouldn't be saying that,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't care. I have a
Speaker 1: good feeling that I'm right, and it just it feels
Speaker 1: good to be right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's really cool to see someone take full ownership,
Speaker 2: like I did something wrong, I screwed up. I'm going
Speaker 2: to do everything I can to make it right. Tom
Speaker 2: is doing the exact opposite. Tom is comparing himself to O. J.
Speaker 2: Simpson and he won't take accountability.
Speaker 1: Why is he comparing himself to OJ Simpson and thinking
Speaker 1: that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: He compared scanned of vaut to OJ Simpson and George Floyd. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was really really bad.
Speaker 1: But I haven't really seen anything talk about that besides
Speaker 1: when we talked about it on your podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of got brushed over, which is shocking.
Speaker 1: It's insane. And I was telling Ben this last night
Speaker 1: or two nights ago, I guess when we were after
Speaker 1: the concert on that stuff, and we were alway just
Speaker 1: kind of sit around hanging out. I said, there's nothing
Speaker 1: more appealing and person than someone that's a willing, willing
Speaker 1: to take accountability. And I think Rachel did that and
Speaker 1: is still doing it and is working on it, and
Speaker 1: she's knows she's made a mistake. She's beat the first
Speaker 1: one to admit it. You look at Tom not so
Speaker 1: much obviously, you look at Ariana, who didn't really make
Speaker 1: a mistake. I guess, so it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: rope her into that as well. But her behavior is
Speaker 1: just like she's she's almost like she's almost like happy
Speaker 1: that it happened to her, because she's like cashing in
Speaker 1: on it. Is what I feel like.
Speaker 2: She is thriving, she's like doing better than she ever
Speaker 2: would have if this didn't happen. And I haven't watch
Speaker 2: last night's episode, but I got caught up before that,
Speaker 2: and like Tom came up to her and was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: just want to make sure you saw my email from
Speaker 2: the lawyers, and then the stare that she gave him.
Speaker 2: She like ignored him, acted like he doesn't exist, and
Speaker 2: it's like at some point you need to move on,
Speaker 2: you need to just like I just think Rachel's handling
Speaker 2: this a lot better than Arian is.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, again, I just still feel so proud of myself. Hey,
Speaker 1: John never questioned my judgment again.
Speaker 2: I also, Brittany Snow came out on her daddy recently,
Speaker 2: and I think that is how you should respond if so,
Speaker 2: if your partner has cheated on you. Her husband cheated
Speaker 2: on her on reality television. She watched it and she's
Speaker 2: handling it so well. She's like, yeah, they screwed up,
Speaker 2: but also our relationship wasn't perfect and I wasn't perfect,
Speaker 2: and she can own that even though he did something
Speaker 2: awful and she did on her.
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's our pop culture segment for the day. I
Speaker 1: guess we're doing that Calen's corner.
Speaker 4: I feel like I should chime in, maybe we should
Speaker 4: talk about I do think this leads to a bigger
Speaker 4: conversation just about relationships in general, and like I guess
Speaker 4: human nature because we're so imperfect in life, but.
Speaker 1: Not that we have to be perfect in relationships. But
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just find it's interesting. I think we're all just flawed.
Speaker 4: Like you guys are talking about Tom Sandfall and whatever
Speaker 4: about that, but you were talking about Rachel.
Speaker 1: Is it Raquel or Rachel Rachel. Now, you're not an idiot.
Speaker 1: I know you know Rachel. Now you know as Raquel.
Speaker 1: You know her as Raquel from the show, but she
Speaker 1: now goes by Rachel. Yeah wait a minute.
Speaker 2: It was so so she in like elementary school, there
Speaker 2: are a bunch of Rachel's, so she decided to go
Speaker 2: by Raquel to be different. And then when this came out,
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, that's not even her real name, So
Speaker 2: now she goes by Rachel.
Speaker 1: I knew it.
Speaker 4: I freaking I was like, so you're saying Rachel. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I thought it was Raquel. But obviously
Speaker 4: I'm wrong because I don't keep up with this stuff.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 4: So anyway, so Rachel, Yeah, obviously what they did was wrong,
Speaker 4: but I don't and it was good for TV. But
Speaker 4: in terms of like general consensus, you talk about Britney
Speaker 4: Snow So you're saying that her husband cheated on her.
Speaker 1: How long were they married for?
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a couple of years. But he
Speaker 2: her husband was on selling suns at oc and she
Speaker 2: watched it and there was like some weird stuff going on.
Speaker 1: So he's on reality TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stopped after that season because it was really
Speaker 2: bad for him?
Speaker 4: Why was it so so? He well, he cheated on
Speaker 4: his she did on her on TV.
Speaker 2: They like he didn't sleep with someone on TV. But
Speaker 2: there was like weird stuff going on, like this girl
Speaker 2: sucked on his tongue and just weird stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's a little weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if a girl was sucking on your tongue, I
Speaker 2: would be like, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Well, and also if it happened a year ago and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're just seeing it happen
Speaker 1: on TV. What a flawed marriage that must have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the way she handled it, she was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk crap about them. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to give them any space or energy. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to move on and move past this and also
Speaker 2: own my part in it. She's like, you know, like
Speaker 2: there were issues in our relationship or whatever, and why
Speaker 2: can't Arianna do that? Just move on, just be like
Speaker 2: there were issues, let's move on. Let me be a
Speaker 2: nice human now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: Okay, further idiot, Arianna was Tom Sandoval's wife.
Speaker 2: Girlfriend of like eight to ten years or so.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, got it, got it. See, I just need
Speaker 4: the context. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: I've been getting this context every week for the past
Speaker 1: few months. Yes see, Dean gets it every day.
Speaker 4: I gotta get it. On the podcast What did you
Speaker 4: do this weekend?
Speaker 3: Jared?
Speaker 4: And what we had ead? We went to my brother
Speaker 4: in law's house. They had a big Easter egg hunt,
Speaker 4: and it was fun seeing Dawson just run around with
Speaker 4: my niece Nora.
Speaker 1: It's fun seeing those.
Speaker 4: Two together because they're just so little and adorable that
Speaker 4: like just seeing them run around and have no idea
Speaker 4: what the hell is happening in the world. It was
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. And he doesn't really fully understand
Speaker 4: the concept of the egg hunt yet, Like he he
Speaker 4: was grasping the idea of going after the eggs, getting
Speaker 4: an egg and putting it in his basket, but he
Speaker 4: also like would put one in his basket and then
Speaker 4: drop his basket, or then he grabbed three or four
Speaker 4: eggs and then he'd stop and he would be distracted
Speaker 4: by something else. But that was nice. And so it
Speaker 4: was at his It wasn't my brother in law's house,
Speaker 4: it was his aunt's house, but it was his side
Speaker 4: of the family. And then just been working we did.
Speaker 4: I think I talked about it. We did the Bachelor finale,
Speaker 4: We had a watch party at Audrey's, which was Banana Land.
Speaker 4: It was so busy and crazy and so thank you
Speaker 4: you If anybody's listening to this podcast were coming out
Speaker 4: that evening. It was so busy but so much fun.
Speaker 1: I had an Easter ecunt on on Easter you did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went golfing, which is kind of like a crun
Speaker 1: up version of an Easter egg hunt. Did you guys
Speaker 1: get each other for anything for Easter?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: We didn't even get I don't even think that's the
Speaker 1: correct answer. I don't even think we acknowledged Easter when
Speaker 1: we were together, did we? We said, I don't even
Speaker 1: think we did that.
Speaker 3: Yes we did, did we?
Speaker 1: I just remember not realizing it was Easter until like noon,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh gosh, it's Easter, And I
Speaker 1: was trying to think back back to, like my favorite
Speaker 1: Easter is. Do you guys have any good Easter stories
Speaker 1: from when you were kids? The only one I can
Speaker 1: really think of for myself was we were on a
Speaker 1: family vacation and steamboat and my mom used to always
Speaker 1: hide baskets and she like still brought them to steamboat
Speaker 1: with her or something like that. She used to hide
Speaker 1: baskets around the house, so you would have to look
Speaker 1: around all day until you find your basket.
Speaker 3: All day.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it depends how hard you hit it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: My mom would hide them and we found them pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: We have to find your basket and then you can
Speaker 2: find the eggs. But you can't, oh, find the eggs
Speaker 2: until you get your basket.
Speaker 1: We didn't have eggs though, It was just a basket
Speaker 1: for us. And then in the basket would be like
Speaker 1: all the goodies and stuff.
Speaker 2: We would always do like the candy plastic eggs that
Speaker 2: had candy inside, and then she would hard boil them
Speaker 2: and we would do like dying them and stuff. And
Speaker 2: there's one year that we lost like three hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 1: Just into the ether, into the ether, just gone forever.
Speaker 2: We're like, once it starts smelling, we'll find them.
Speaker 1: We used to paint eggs occasionally. I don't think that
Speaker 1: was like a tradition of ours, but like every so
Speaker 1: often we would do it and that was fun. I
Speaker 1: remember enjoying that quite a bit, but I don't I'm.
Speaker 2: Excited to do that with our kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's still a long ways away,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't sound like Dawson's even kind of at
Speaker 1: that stage yet, right, No, not really, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just we.
Speaker 4: Anything we do with Dawson is truthfully for us right now,
Speaker 4: not for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean he finds enjoyment it. But I could give
Speaker 4: him a paper cup and he would find so much
Speaker 4: enjoyment for that for like five minutes and then move
Speaker 4: on to the other thing, like it's crazy. Ashley made
Speaker 4: him this on Easter morning. It was a waffle and
Speaker 4: she put bananas on it and made it. She made
Speaker 4: it look like a bunny. I don't know, we ate it,
Speaker 4: like she put all this hard work in. She took
Speaker 4: pictures of it, obviously for the GRAM. You'll realize when
Speaker 4: you put all this work in, it's like mostly for
Speaker 4: you for your own enjoyment, and then.
Speaker 1: It's like nice.
Speaker 4: They enjoy it for like a second, he might if
Speaker 4: you're lucky, you'll get like a whoa, and then that's that.
Speaker 4: Then you're like okay, and then it was all worth it.
Speaker 4: That half a second whoa was totally worth it.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. I feel like this Christmas, this
Speaker 2: past Christmas, I realized holidays are for kids, and I
Speaker 2: just feel like, like Christmas, you know, it was all
Speaker 2: about the kids, and it's less about being an adult
Speaker 2: on Christmas. And so I'm just excited to create these
Speaker 2: traditions and have these holidays with the kids.
Speaker 1: Now. Like how you're talking to me like I have
Speaker 1: no idea what a holiday is?
Speaker 2: Well, you were looking at me like you confused. So
Speaker 2: I was like, do I need to explain.
Speaker 1: This to you? Well, I guess because this was the
Speaker 1: first holiday that we spent Christmas is what you're referring
Speaker 1: to with our two niece and nephew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because pre kids, it was like you drink, you
Speaker 2: play games, you stay up all night.
Speaker 1: Gosh, and that's all I want to do still, But
Speaker 1: my brothers can't do that or yeah, and so.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so Christmas is different now and
Speaker 2: we I'm just excited for the kids.
Speaker 1: One brother's pretty good at staying up, but his baby's
Speaker 1: way younger than the other brother. Yeah, he's like, ah,
Speaker 1: the baby's six month old. It's fine, it can it
Speaker 1: can be alone for an hour. And then the other
Speaker 1: brother is like, crap, where's my baby? I gotta go
Speaker 1: Exactly wherever she is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's running around like crazy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could see your point. Holidays are for
Speaker 1: the kids, just like Saturdays are for the boys, and
Speaker 1: like tricks are for kids as well. Yes, that's absolutely right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Easter didn't celebrate anything, and I guess that's probably
Speaker 1: what our feature is going to look like for a while.
Speaker 2: Well maybe in the fall, will have baby.
Speaker 1: We were talking like start, we were talking to Kathy
Speaker 1: from Golden Bachelor. You want to tell uh what she
Speaker 1: said to her? You?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's She said, I'm gonna tell you what I
Speaker 2: just told your husband. Don't have kids until you can't breathe.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what does that mean? She was
Speaker 2: like just I don't know. She was like, just wait
Speaker 2: as long as you can to have kids. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm kind of ready now, you're not ready now,
Speaker 2: and like six months, I'll be ready six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny because before it was like three years
Speaker 1: and now it's down a six month.
Speaker 2: It's getting closer and closer.
Speaker 1: How many kids does she have?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: Maybe she has it?
Speaker 2: Maybe one, she has kids, I would say two to three.
Speaker 4: Well, I hope is she's telling you to wait until
Speaker 4: you can't breathe to have kids. She has personal experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like that, I've never heard that one before.
Speaker 2: But she's like, you're going to have them for the
Speaker 2: rest of your life, no rush, And I get that.
Speaker 1: But she's she's an anomaly to me. She has so
Speaker 1: much energy, so much a person of her age. I
Speaker 1: feel like she dwarfs me in terms of energy. And
Speaker 1: she's like talking to me and then she'll go to
Speaker 1: Ben and she'll go to you, or she'll go to
Speaker 1: Rachel and she'll carry that same energy from one conversation
Speaker 1: to the next for the entire time that we're hanging
Speaker 1: out with her. And I'm looking I'm just exhausted watching her.
Speaker 1: And I can only hope to have that much energy
Speaker 1: when I'm in my sixties. So I mean, good for her.
Speaker 1: They just announced their podcasts, Susan and Kathy. They're making
Speaker 1: their rounds. It seems like they're doing good. Susan's great
Speaker 1: as well. She seems to be She seems to kind
Speaker 1: of real Kathy in a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, watching the show, you think it'd be the opposite.
Speaker 2: You think that she would have more energy, but she's
Speaker 2: like she's pretty calm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you got any of those golden bachelorettes out
Speaker 1: for your coffee shop?
Speaker 4: Jared, No, A lot of them are probably still under contract.
Speaker 4: I like to go after the people who are not
Speaker 4: onto contract. Speaking of which, when do you guys want
Speaker 4: to come out?
Speaker 2: Spring or summer?
Speaker 1: We actually just got under contract yesterday, so we can't
Speaker 1: be out.
Speaker 2: For a five years. I don't think congratulations, we're going
Speaker 2: to the East Coast. You got to get over your fear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, just come and then you'll work. I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: you'll come. You'll you'll go behind the counter. He will
Speaker 4: just some coffee. Yeah, dude, I'll be I'm not joking.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on on like a Saturday.
Speaker 4: Would you rather bartender? Would you rather be a barista?
Speaker 4: I think I could do both, just clear out the
Speaker 4: shop of all your employees can do.
Speaker 1: But what would you rather do?
Speaker 4: Because I'll put you on like a Saturday day or
Speaker 4: I'll put you on a Friday night.
Speaker 1: I think bartending would be safer because there's less hot
Speaker 1: drinks going around, and so I would be less likely
Speaker 1: to like hurt myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to steam milk that's a possible.
Speaker 4: Here's here's my here's my proposal to you. I'll do
Speaker 4: this happily, but I have to we have to split
Speaker 4: the profit share for the day. However much money you make,
Speaker 4: I get half of it. I don't make them. Well,
Speaker 4: first of all, I make no money. So that's number one.
Speaker 4: I'll give you. I'll tip you out, I'll give you tips.
Speaker 1: Now I want half of them. I don't want tips.
Speaker 1: I want half of the revenue.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, like, it's not profitable a jace.
Speaker 1: Of course it is. It has to be. It is
Speaker 1: not profitable. Of course it's not. I can't, of course not.
Speaker 4: It's more uh so like I have not made my
Speaker 4: initial investment back, which I knew I it would take
Speaker 4: a while, but it's hard because labor cost is so high,
Speaker 4: food cost is so high. It costs so much to
Speaker 4: keep the business going. And then, as everybody who owns
Speaker 4: a restaurant knows, your margins are small, and it always
Speaker 4: needs work, like it always needs something, whether it be
Speaker 4: tables are breaking, or equipment's going down, or I need
Speaker 4: service people to come in and fix the fireplace, fix
Speaker 4: the walk in, the coolers down.
Speaker 2: You know, well that's where dean people come in. You
Speaker 2: can fix these things, all.
Speaker 1: These things for you, yet for free and not pay
Speaker 1: you obviously. Hey, sorry, I can't make your drink right now.
Speaker 1: I gotta go around and fix the refrigerator real quick.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, dude. It was so.
Speaker 4: Our walk in started, it went down, and obviously the
Speaker 4: walking is very important. It has to hold temp and
Speaker 4: if it does the whole temp we need to get
Speaker 4: the food out immediately so it doesn't grow back here yet.
Speaker 1: So it stopped holding temperature. Like shoot, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: square shoot.
Speaker 4: But then I called the service department that I said,
Speaker 4: you know, take and they were like, well, we probably
Speaker 4: won't be able to get there to till tomorrow. Like
Speaker 4: all right, so I have to get all this food
Speaker 4: out of there, and like I'm I'm putting it anywhere
Speaker 4: I can to make sure that's holding temperature in proper refrigerator,
Speaker 4: which takes all hours. And then the next day he
Speaker 4: comes literally I didn't even know, so it still wasn't
Speaker 4: holding temp. It was like eleven o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, this guy comes like in.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, so what happened. So long story short,
Speaker 4: so refrigerida was not working. And then I looked over
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the temperature started going down
Speaker 4: because it's supposed to below forty one degrees, and it
Speaker 4: was at like forty seven, and then I looked over
Speaker 4: it was forty four, and then I looked over as
Speaker 4: forty two, and then I looked over thirty eight and
Speaker 4: it started to erature, and I was like, what the
Speaker 4: hell happened? And all of a sudden, this guy came in.
Speaker 4: He was like, hey, it's working out right. I said yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you just needed a little oil in
Speaker 1: the back. I came. I came in earlier, put some
Speaker 1: oil in there, fixed it up a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: good to go. He was there.
Speaker 4: I'm not joking. I don't know between putting the oil
Speaker 4: in ten minutes or so, ten to fifteen minutes, came back,
Speaker 4: checked in on it was in the store for ninety seconds.
Speaker 4: Left it was six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's how that goes. There's a little just
Speaker 1: like good God. There's the old adage. You don't pay
Speaker 1: me for the amount of time i'm working, You pay
Speaker 1: me for the knowledge that I have or like where
Speaker 1: to swing the hammer kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should FaceTime d next time.
Speaker 1: No, no, but fas.
Speaker 2: Time you next time. There's an issue and you can
Speaker 2: fix it.
Speaker 1: But you just lost over my super thing that I
Speaker 1: was saying again, Oh here we go. You don't pay
Speaker 1: me to swing the hammer. You pay me to nowhere
Speaker 1: to swing the hammer is essentially what it is. So
Speaker 1: like you pay them six hundred dollars because otherwise you
Speaker 1: would there's no way that you would have known that
Speaker 1: it needed a little bit of oil in the back.
Speaker 4: You know, no, exactly exactly so, but anyway, my point
Speaker 4: being is that it's it's it's it's not profitable. What
Speaker 4: I mean, there are other aspects. I mean, obviously I
Speaker 4: want to make money off of it because I want
Speaker 4: to ensure that it continues growing or continues going. Excuse me,
Speaker 4: but I do love the sense of cam that has
Speaker 4: really built, and I love the relationship that like I
Speaker 4: have with the clientele and my employees as well. There
Speaker 4: is a lot of positive affirmations in that. But dude, yeah,
Speaker 4: you and I just like I would love to work
Speaker 4: with you. I'm not even joking, like I would be
Speaker 4: behind the counter because I am. Or I'm in the
Speaker 4: kitchen and like Brom, I'm training you what to do
Speaker 4: in the moment.
Speaker 1: Can we open up a Colorado branch and we can
Speaker 1: call it Ja Lias. There we go because you named
Speaker 1: it after your mother in law? Right? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, am I supposed to know who Jayla is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's Kaitlyn's mom's name. So we just keep the mother
Speaker 1: in law street going. Or I was gonna say Debbie's.
Speaker 1: Debbie's I think would maybe be a little more like
Speaker 1: of a classic name. Yeah, but then that's a little
Speaker 1: selfish of me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and generous is in uh Colorado, so you're not
Speaker 4: far So we can.
Speaker 1: Get the beans right there, get the beans, the locally
Speaker 1: sourced under and beans. That's right. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, props to you. You've been running this business
Speaker 1: for a while, so that's great. I think you've definitely
Speaker 1: done a lot better job than I could possibly imagine doing. So.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's just a grind, man, It's just every day,
Speaker 4: you know, which I enjoy there.
Speaker 1: I love working, like I love to work.
Speaker 4: Just ask Ashley, like I need to work, I need
Speaker 4: to get my hands dirty. Uh but uh, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 2: If you didn't have Audrey's what would you fill your
Speaker 2: days with?
Speaker 1: You think, good question.
Speaker 4: I don't know, honestly, I mean probably much more social
Speaker 4: media centric. I mean, La was easier to fill our
Speaker 4: days because there were so many networking meetings or events
Speaker 4: or things that we had to go to to fill
Speaker 4: our time, so to speak, because it just felt like,
Speaker 4: you know, when we were living there, as you guys know,
Speaker 4: you're just in the hub of the entertainment industry, specifically
Speaker 4: before COVID, where it just felt like every single day
Speaker 4: is like just meeting with this person or talking to
Speaker 4: this person or going here or going there, and it's
Speaker 4: all about like meeting people and you know, creating relationships
Speaker 4: that form into partnerships.
Speaker 1: Do you ever miss La, Jared, Do I miss La? No?
Speaker 4: There are If I could, I would say, be able
Speaker 4: to go in and out. But man, like the idea
Speaker 4: of flying cross country sounds awful.
Speaker 1: But like living because you lived there for a while,
Speaker 1: so you don't ever miss living there, I guess is
Speaker 1: my question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely don't miss living there. I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: I miss the weather a lot of times. I love
Speaker 4: the changing of the seasons. I like here the New
Speaker 4: England where and weather obviously is talked about so much,
Speaker 4: and it's probably like, oh, this guy has nothing else
Speaker 4: to talk about besides the weather, but obviously is a
Speaker 4: huge impact on our daily lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we are.
Speaker 4: Entering peak season in New England, which I'm very excited
Speaker 4: about because seasonal depression is a very real thing. In January, February, March,
Speaker 4: it's just like me out of here. So I do
Speaker 4: miss that, like waking up in January and it's like
Speaker 4: fifty degrees outside and I walk low as.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is nice.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I just I always felt uneasy over there.
Speaker 4: I always felt I was waiting for like California to
Speaker 4: fall off into the ocean. Still am I still think
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: I think about that.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 3: That video, No, that it's the what is it?
Speaker 1: The oh the san andres falling.
Speaker 2: Yes, should have broken off a while ago.
Speaker 4: So well, they say it's definitely going to interrupt within
Speaker 4: the next fifty years, like it's just inevitable.
Speaker 1: This is really just so so insignificant and so tangential.
Speaker 1: But I was playing golf there last month. We were
Speaker 1: standing on the tea box and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this tea box started shaking underneath our feet, and I
Speaker 1: at first I was like, someone's just playing loud music.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, no, I'm standing on ground.
Speaker 1: I'm not like standing in a house or building. And
Speaker 1: then I look around and everyone else like stops what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and there it was a you know, magnitude
Speaker 1: three earthquake, so pretty small, but it's just crazy that
Speaker 1: there is. And then we just like went back to
Speaker 1: playing golf like nothing ever had, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy. You're just like, ah, that's fine, whatever,
Speaker 1: let's gone.
Speaker 4: Can we also, I know people say that this really
Speaker 4: is the greatest time to be alive, the idea that
Speaker 4: you're standing on a golf course in California, the earth
Speaker 4: shakes and then it stops, and then you're like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's just all right, I'm to how far are we to?
Speaker 1: Sixty? Yeahct no exactly. It was so it was so
Speaker 1: surreal because it was just like just such a non thing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: But dude, and it's just like crazy to think about.
Speaker 4: Ashley and I were looking up life expectancy the other day,
Speaker 4: and in nineteen fifty, the life expectancy for a male
Speaker 4: was like sixty four. Yeah, and that's not long ago.
Speaker 1: No, you know, I do think there's a weird thing
Speaker 1: with life's expectancye how it's it's kind of going down
Speaker 1: a little bit, like it was higher ten years ago
Speaker 1: than it is now. Something strange, But abut it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do agree. It's so much better to be alive
Speaker 1: now than in the fifty It's the best time to
Speaker 1: be alive than any other peer previous time in his
Speaker 1: It's not because because of healthcare and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I can't remember, you know why. I don't think it's strange.
Speaker 4: It's because I truly believe that these things are killing us.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but yeah, also, I can't live without it.
Speaker 4: So it's like if it takes off, Like I'll ask
Speaker 4: a question for you guys. If you know that this
Speaker 4: thing your phone is going to take is taking two
Speaker 4: years off your life, Oh so you could live just
Speaker 4: too wo so like you would have lived till eighty two,
Speaker 4: but now you're gonna die at eighty but you get
Speaker 4: to have your phone.
Speaker 2: I try to cut back a little bit and give
Speaker 2: myself a year back.
Speaker 1: I think the quality of life that you have near
Speaker 1: the end isn't as as great and full as it
Speaker 1: is in your thirties and forties and fifties eighty two. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I guarantee you he was much cooler and more
Speaker 1: energetic at thirty two, you know. And if the phone
Speaker 1: allows you to network and connect with people, that enhances
Speaker 1: your life to a certain degree. You're going to get
Speaker 1: more out of two extra years in your thirties than
Speaker 1: you would in your eighties. So I'm pro phone, even
Speaker 1: if it gives me cancer.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, cancer is just crazy, man. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is interesting to see the life expected. He's going
Speaker 4: down a little bit, but it's still high. I mean
Speaker 4: for a male, it's mid seventies, women high seventies.
Speaker 1: I do have a I always say to people, and
Speaker 1: Kilen always kind of rolls her eyes at me, that
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be I'm going to live
Speaker 1: to be one hundred and forty. I think generally, generally,
Speaker 1: you know, give or take ten years.
Speaker 2: He says that, and then he also says he might
Speaker 2: die before he's forty.
Speaker 1: If I die before I'm forty, it'll be through like,
Speaker 1: you know, some sort of cool, crazy accident that everyone's
Speaker 1: going to like talk about forever and ever, because if
Speaker 1: that's how awesome it's going to be, hopefully, or if
Speaker 1: I just if I die by natural causes, I'm living
Speaker 1: to at least one hundred and thirty years old. I know.
Speaker 4: I always told Ashley I was like I even before
Speaker 4: we were together, I was like, I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna die relatively young, which is a horrible thought to have,
Speaker 4: but I've always been like I dust, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I feel like relatively young, quote unquote, like if I
Speaker 4: make it to my sixties, is that young?
Speaker 1: Yes? Well, yeah, I just judgement by what we just said.
Speaker 1: You just said if someone dies before the seventy you're like,
Speaker 1: that's a little young. I mean I hope not. I
Speaker 1: hope I live to one hundred and twenty. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see different. With kids, I feel like you have like
Speaker 1: more of a reason they want to live longer. But
Speaker 1: what how old do you think you're gonna be when
Speaker 1: you die by natural causes?
Speaker 2: Ninety two?
Speaker 1: Wow? That's old? Wow? Good for you. You You think very
Speaker 1: highly of your I'm very healthy, yes, but you always
Speaker 1: hear these stories like you are healthy, you do take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, You watch what you eat, and you
Speaker 1: make sure you eat healthy stuff. I don't, and I
Speaker 1: still feel like I'm going to double your life.
Speaker 2: Express No, I disagree. Also, my grandpa super healthy, did
Speaker 2: yoga for years, did hot yoga for years, like was
Speaker 2: very active, and he's doing great. Yes, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm in the same trajectory as him.
Speaker 1: That's fair. And I've never had an adult in my
Speaker 1: family make it past seventy, so I guess the odds
Speaker 1: are stacked against me.
Speaker 2: No, you'll be the first. But maybe just like cut
Speaker 2: back on the poloni and the hot Cheetos and the
Speaker 2: spaghettios and the.
Speaker 1: Hot pockets every time I do, every time I eat
Speaker 1: the like ray a lot ment of food that I eat,
Speaker 1: and I go get like a blood test done. They're
Speaker 1: always like, you're the healthiest guy we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you got a blood test? Like
Speaker 2: ten years ago?
Speaker 1: That was about after I broke my leg, so maybe
Speaker 1: four or five years ago, four years ago. But yes,
Speaker 1: I do. I could eat healthier, I suppose, but I've
Speaker 1: gotten way with it for this long. Might as well
Speaker 1: just keep it going.
Speaker 2: I mean, now you're older, your metabolism is slowing down,
Speaker 2: and you just like your body can't keep up.
Speaker 1: Wow, you call me fat.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not calling you fat. I'm saying, like health wise,
Speaker 2: you can eat this junk when you're young, but now
Speaker 2: it's like it's not good for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, fine, I'll start eating lettuce with my bilooney
Speaker 1: sandwich or but yeah, no, it's got to be different
Speaker 1: for you, Jared, because now that you have Dawson and
Speaker 1: the second one on the way, it's like you kind
Speaker 1: of you know, if I die at forty, I would
Speaker 1: feel so bad for Kail and having to be heartbroken
Speaker 1: and a widower. But with a kid, I feel like
Speaker 1: it just kind of complicates things even further.
Speaker 4: Well as a yeah, as a parent, I mean, the
Speaker 4: most the most important thing is I want to be there,
Speaker 4: you know, I want to make sure that he's taken
Speaker 4: care of. If I want to teach him life lessons,
Speaker 4: I want to be there to ensure that he can hopefully,
Speaker 4: you know, achieve the most he's able to achieve and
Speaker 4: just and be happy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that the other day. I think
Speaker 4: the most important thing, like my biggest job with Dawson,
Speaker 4: other than getting him prepared for the world, is I
Speaker 4: just want him to be happy. You know, I think, man,
Speaker 4: life is hard, but that's okay. Life is meant to
Speaker 4: be hard. Like the idea that we're actually breathing and
Speaker 4: living is a pretty spectacular thing to think about in general.
Speaker 4: So the idea that life can be hard and it
Speaker 4: hard quote unquote, like we're sitting on a podcast right now,
Speaker 4: how hard could it be, you know, with a roof
Speaker 4: over our head. A lot of people can't say that,
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, I really just want him.
Speaker 1: To be happy.
Speaker 4: That's all I really care about. And that's why I
Speaker 4: want to be here, is because I want to bring
Speaker 4: him happiness. It's hard as a parent right now because
Speaker 4: I'm also so aware that he's just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I know people will probably disagree with me. I guess
Speaker 4: it's hard to know how formative these years are. Like,
Speaker 4: are the things that I'm doing for Dawson going to
Speaker 4: reflect in any way in the future, you know, I'd
Speaker 4: like to think so yeah, But you know, so now,
Speaker 4: I guess my only job is like I want him
Speaker 4: to be happy, so like reading to him or playing
Speaker 4: with them, or like if he's playing with his toys, like,
Speaker 4: but I also like trying to teach him things, and
Speaker 4: and I don't know. I feel like I just sometimes
Speaker 4: I'm like, does it matter? Does it matter if I'm
Speaker 4: disciplining him now? Is that going to make any difference?
Speaker 1: No? I see your point too, because it's like, if
Speaker 1: you look back at your childhood, you don't really start
Speaker 1: remembering things until you're like three or four or five,
Speaker 1: or however old you are.
Speaker 4: I don't know, and even that's so young to talk
Speaker 4: about your earliest memories like mine. Maybe I'm just not
Speaker 4: I don't have a good memory, but like I think
Speaker 4: of elementary school as some of my earliest memories, and
Speaker 4: I'm like second and third grade and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: I was like five or six or seven at that point,
Speaker 4: and that's the earliest I can remember.
Speaker 1: It's kind of while I'm like, if we have a baby,
Speaker 1: let's just give him to someone for five years, and
Speaker 1: then once he starts getting to the point where you
Speaker 1: remember stuff, then we take him back and then we
Speaker 1: start like doing just you know.
Speaker 2: No, these are the most formative years. They're like little sponges.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what that's what Jared is saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: you you do believe that I mean, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: do believe that, Jared, but it's like hard, how much
Speaker 1: of a sponge are they really? And like what exactly
Speaker 1: are they absorbing everything? Oh?
Speaker 2: My first memory is as from two years old?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and what's the memory?
Speaker 2: Oh I hadn't tophalitis, so I was paralyzed, So it
Speaker 2: was more trauma memory. Yeah, more trauma than anything. But
Speaker 2: that's my realliest memory. And then I started remember remembering
Speaker 2: things after that.
Speaker 1: Are other pictures of you as a paralyzed two year old?
Speaker 2: No, I was in the hospital for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's the memory? Just sitting there in the bed.
Speaker 2: I woke up and I couldn't move my body and
Speaker 2: I yelled for my mom. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's also different for men and women, and
Speaker 4: I know that's playing gender roles something we shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 4: But just from my experience with Ashley and Dawson, I
Speaker 4: think I and again maybe it's just like the man
Speaker 4: in me, Like I want to provide for Dawson. I
Speaker 4: want to, you know, be there for him and teach
Speaker 4: him lessons and of course like make sure he's happy.
Speaker 4: But like I think Ashley wants to, like, you know,
Speaker 4: and I love cuddling with him too, but like the
Speaker 4: important thing for her is just like you know, showering
Speaker 4: him with love and affection, and like now is that
Speaker 4: this is the time to do that? You know, these
Speaker 4: are the moments where he's gonna like just be such
Speaker 4: a mushball. And as much as I enjoy that, I
Speaker 4: know Ashley enjoys that more so. I guess maybe as
Speaker 4: a dad. And I feel like a lot of dads
Speaker 4: go through this. Like once I'm able to like really
Speaker 4: communicate with him and talk to him and and kind
Speaker 4: of hope, you know, developed the man that he will
Speaker 4: like one day become, That's what I'm most excited about.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all of that leads to their personality,
Speaker 2: leads to how they'll be a friend a partner. Like
Speaker 2: starts starts right when they get them out of the womb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, so so hard to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's probably some research done on it, but who knows
Speaker 1: for sure?
Speaker 2: I think I think it's pretty No.
Speaker 1: I just watched or I just read this thing yesterday
Speaker 1: about how Nicholas Cage says that his early memory is
Speaker 1: being in the womb. What Yeah, no.
Speaker 4: Way, that's such bullshoun believe that man for one second
Speaker 4: if he said that, I.
Speaker 1: Don't believe m either, But the fact that he's saying it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's something something that.
Speaker 2: No way, no chance, no chance. But they're also like
Speaker 2: we do remember it in like physical terms, like fetal
Speaker 2: position is comforting for us because we were in it
Speaker 2: that position for so long, right, right, right, So maybe
Speaker 2: we don't have memories from being in the womb, but
Speaker 2: our body remembers.
Speaker 1: It, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is scientifically impossible to remember events before your
Speaker 4: brain is sufficiently developed to hold onto such memories.
Speaker 1: When does it sufficient? This is a big.
Speaker 2: Ass article, But memories are weird too. I read a
Speaker 2: whole book on memories, and it's hard to decipher what
Speaker 2: is a memory and what was told to you.
Speaker 1: Right. That's why I was asking if you had any
Speaker 1: pictures of you in the hospital, because a lot of
Speaker 1: times too, we'll see like polaroids of our childhood and
Speaker 1: we'll just know that we'll remember the polaroid more than
Speaker 1: we'd remember the moment, and so we like register that
Speaker 1: picture as a memory. Like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: we lived in a bus for three years. I don't
Speaker 1: really remember much. I do kind of remember some things,
Speaker 1: but I remember like climbing on the roof. Yes, But
Speaker 1: then we also like in our family photo album when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, when I remember looking at it,
Speaker 1: there was pictures of us climbing on the roof, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, do I actually remember it climbing on the
Speaker 1: roof or do I just remember seeing the picture of
Speaker 1: me climbing on the roof and then registering it as
Speaker 1: a memory.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's crazy how they can be manipulated so
Speaker 2: easily too. It's kind of scary our memories.
Speaker 1: Oh, the memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of the point
Speaker 1: I guess is like who knows what's real and what's
Speaker 1: not real with memories. Your brain's a weird thing. It
Speaker 1: can make stuff up, and it can make you believe
Speaker 1: things that aren't necessarily true.
Speaker 2: But the way that you're raised defines how you'll be
Speaker 2: as an adult and how you'll be as a teenager
Speaker 2: and stuff. And it's like you can tell someone that
Speaker 2: they had a great childhood and or a terrible childhood,
Speaker 2: but they still remember it in a way that they're
Speaker 2: going to it's going to define their personality you know.
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Speaker 1: I meant to say this earlier too, when we were
Speaker 1: talking about the iHeartRadio Awards. It's crazy to me how
Speaker 1: so many of the awards given out were from artists
Speaker 1: that are not they're kind of making new music now,
Speaker 1: but they were just big in the nineties and the
Speaker 1: two thousands, Like the Nostalgia Factory, I feel like was
Speaker 1: so important in that and it kind of made me realize,
Speaker 1: like there's not that many great current artists, like a
Speaker 1: lot of good artists that we love to listen to
Speaker 1: and everything, but not maybe as big of icons as
Speaker 1: there were back then.
Speaker 2: I feel like gen Z is like craving how we
Speaker 2: grew up, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I feel like we were craving
Speaker 1: how the eighties and the nineties grew up. Like we
Speaker 1: didn't get the Beatles or the Rolling Stones or anything
Speaker 1: like that, like the huge, huge bands. We had a
Speaker 1: couple big ones, but nothing like as big as those bands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, with the exception of Taylor obviously, I think she's
Speaker 4: the one exceptionion beyond, but yeah, and Beyonce, I think
Speaker 4: I just I think Taylor and Beyonce is an icon
Speaker 4: and she's incredible and one of the most powerful people
Speaker 4: in the world. I just think what Taylor has done
Speaker 4: over the past two years has put her on a
Speaker 4: level that I don't think I've.
Speaker 1: Ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she is just so I mean, I've never I
Speaker 4: just I can't believe how popular she is.
Speaker 2: I also think that Taylor has had so much bad
Speaker 2: PR that Beyonce hasn't necessarily had to deal with in
Speaker 2: the same way, like starting with the VMAs and Kanye,
Speaker 2: and I think Taylor has used that bad PR to
Speaker 2: our advantage and has made her more popular.
Speaker 1: I guess I just hate that our generation is being
Speaker 1: defined by Taylor Swift versus like the our parents' generation
Speaker 1: defined by the Beatles and like these actual I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Taylor Shift isn't talented. She is, absolutely, but it
Speaker 1: just it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift is on the same plane as someone like the
Speaker 1: as a group like the Beatles. And maybe it's only
Speaker 1: because she's still in the middle of her career and
Speaker 1: the Beatles' career is, you know, long and gone. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if an artist is going to define
Speaker 1: a generation, I want it to be someone that I
Speaker 1: really enjoy listening to, and it's not necessarily Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: So maybe it's just like a selfish you don't get
Speaker 3: to decide.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Maybe it's a bit selfish of
Speaker 1: me to want that, but that's just kind of where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now. Like, I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 1: even a big fan of the Beatles honestly too. Like
Speaker 1: I've tried listening to all their albums and I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're but I don't really see the appeal so much.
Speaker 1: So I guess I probably would be saying the same
Speaker 1: thing about the Beatles if this was the nineties, you know,
Speaker 1: or the eighties or whatever. I would probably still be
Speaker 1: grumping about it a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also think the crazed fan base was like the
Speaker 2: only way to see them is like to go and
Speaker 2: physically see them and stock them. Now we have access
Speaker 2: to Taylor and any celebrity we want with social media,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: And I also think the pool was just smaller as
Speaker 4: technology has grown and we've become more connected than ever.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's even really that possible. That's why
Speaker 4: I think Taylor is kind of an anomaly. The idea
Speaker 4: that she's been able to do, which she's done in
Speaker 4: this day and age where there is so many artists
Speaker 4: and there are so many songs to get your hands on.
Speaker 4: I mean, before the only way to listen to music
Speaker 4: was on the radio or you had to actually go
Speaker 4: buy their cassette or CD. Now and then of course
Speaker 4: like LimeWire came, and then you were able to download
Speaker 4: music on your phone. And now you have Apple Music
Speaker 4: and you have Spotify, and you have all these things,
Speaker 4: like if we go on our phone, we have access
Speaker 4: to millions of songs. And so I think maybe that's
Speaker 4: another reason why there's really no like that many, you know,
Speaker 4: if you want to compare to our generation, like big, big,
Speaker 4: massive musicians anymore, just because there's so many that it's
Speaker 4: just like hard to there's really nobody that takes the cake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like spreading us. It's spreading us way more
Speaker 1: thin than they were back then.
Speaker 4: I guess, dude, even think of Taylor Swift, like you
Speaker 4: think of Taylor or Beyonce. I mean, like Beyonce right
Speaker 4: would be considered an icon today, I would think. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, when did she hit the scene mid nineties,
Speaker 4: We're talking thirty years ago, Like Taylor Swift even she
Speaker 4: started really hitting the scene in the late two thousands,
Speaker 4: so you're talking about fifteen years ago. So like the
Speaker 4: most iconic musicians of today still were. You know, they
Speaker 4: came out fifteen twenty years ago. So it's like, what
Speaker 4: is the most recent massive musician. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I don't even know that's come out over the past
Speaker 4: few years. I couldn't even name one.
Speaker 3: Zach Bryan, Jelly Roll, Olivia Rodrigoz, Olivia.
Speaker 1: Rodrigo, Tate McCrae. I just looked at that. Beyonce is
Speaker 1: only forty two years old. I thought she was older
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 3: For some reason, Beyonce's forty two, thirty eight or something.
Speaker 1: Dude, I thought she was like, yeah, close.
Speaker 3: To fifty forty two. She looks so good, I thought.
Speaker 1: I guess the reason I think that is because jay
Speaker 1: Z is fifty four, and I thought they were closer
Speaker 1: in age. So jay Z is twelve years older than Beyonce.
Speaker 1: But do you think who's bigger, Taylor Swift or Beyonce Jared.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a competition, Taylor, I don't. I
Speaker 1: just think I think if you would have asked me
Speaker 1: two years ago, it'd have been like, that's tough. But
Speaker 1: I just think what it's kind of like I compare
Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, Taylor is such a topic conversation.
Speaker 1: I compare the run that she's had over the past
Speaker 1: couple of years to the second run that Brady had,
Speaker 1: because if Brady retired before twenty fourteen, he would have
Speaker 1: gone down, you know, as one of, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, top five, but
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he went on this second
Speaker 1: half run where he won four more super Bowls and it.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh wow, he is the greatest of all time.
Speaker 4: And I think that Taylor is in that run right now,
Speaker 4: where like this Error's Tour, like what happened last year
Speaker 4: with that Errors Tour is just like, dude, like did
Speaker 4: who even knew Beyonce was on tour the same time?
Speaker 4: You know, like I'm sorry, but like it was just
Speaker 4: like it was Taylor, Taylor, Taylor and Beyonce is huge
Speaker 4: and she's iconic and she's incredible. But I just think
Speaker 4: that like right now, in the world we live in,
Speaker 4: it's like Taylor's number one and everybody's flying for number two.
Speaker 4: That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I just looked up a couple of comparative stats here,
Speaker 1: So Taylor Swift has won what is it, four albums
Speaker 1: of the year, which is the most all time. But
Speaker 1: Beyonce has won thirty two Grammys overall, which is the
Speaker 1: most of all time. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: But I think they were going to the same arenas,
Speaker 2: the same show during their tour, Like, I think it's
Speaker 2: pretty equivalent.
Speaker 1: But then Swift has a total of seventy five million
Speaker 1: albums sold, but Beyonce only has a tour of forty
Speaker 1: two million albums sold, So by that metric, Swift is
Speaker 1: almost double.
Speaker 2: But also I don't know if that's counting, Like, Taylor
Speaker 2: re recorded all of her albums, so are you counting
Speaker 2: that a second time.
Speaker 1: I'm not counting anything. I'm just reading.
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know, the stats, Like I'm wondering.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I totally like stats are a huge
Speaker 4: factor in this argument, obviously, you know, but I think
Speaker 4: I'm arguing for stats and also the influence that this
Speaker 4: person has over the population and in the pop culture sense.
Speaker 4: And it's just like I just think Taylor has tapped
Speaker 4: into something that I mean, I haven't really seen.
Speaker 1: It's interesting since like Michael Jackson. Yeah, so I just
Speaker 1: looked up the top selling artists of all time. They're
Speaker 1: not even on the list either of them, but one
Speaker 1: one performer is that's still performing now. Top ten are Beatles,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Elton John, Queen, Madonna, led Zeppelin,
Speaker 1: and then Rihanna at nine Wow, and then Pink Floyd
Speaker 1: at ten. Rihanna, Yeah, which I wouldn't have suspected either,
Speaker 1: but maybe because she's kind of stepped away a little bit recently.
Speaker 2: Well you do you think of Taylor and Beyonce as
Speaker 2: number one in one or one and two however you
Speaker 2: want to define it, And I think if Rihanna is
Speaker 2: like in the tens, yeah.
Speaker 1: She's top ten overall, triple what Pink Floyd has sold
Speaker 1: in terms of certified units, I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, very interesting. Rihanna is the only person on
Speaker 1: this list to have released an album. Her first release
Speaker 1: was inn O five and everyone else has released the
Speaker 1: near next closest one was nineteen eighty three. So she's
Speaker 1: I mean by that metric, she's damn over everything.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: We got to get Rihanna in on this conversation, obviously.
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever made a playlist for a significant
Speaker 4: other or like for you know, someone that you had
Speaker 4: a crush on Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember doing little CDs like burning CDs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I ever gave it to
Speaker 2: anyone and just did it for myself.
Speaker 1: You love yourself, that's why. Yes, yes I did once.
Speaker 4: I definitely name drop songs. I don't know if I've
Speaker 4: made a playlist, but like I definitely have been, like
Speaker 4: you know, you know, this song is just really impactful
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: Listen to this song on repeat.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy that the kids will never know. They'll
Speaker 2: just make playlists on Spotify. They'll never know. Burning CDs, yeah,
Speaker 2: and how intimate it.
Speaker 1: Was, How intimate it was, And then you get the
Speaker 1: dvdrws that you can rewrite over, so you like have
Speaker 1: one CD even though it was like thirty bucks, you
Speaker 1: could like rewrite it with a bunch of different songs
Speaker 1: whenever you wanted. Do you remember that? No? No, because
Speaker 1: you know you burn a CD, it's burned forever and
Speaker 1: that's just the CD. Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe I did have those because I think I would
Speaker 2: keep burning over them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So dvdrws were the expensive ones that you could
Speaker 1: reburn and then you put it in your walkman and
Speaker 1: it skips or like you get sick of a song,
Speaker 1: so you have to skip it every time it comes up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good days, Good days.
Speaker 2: It's crazy too that we had iPods and like you
Speaker 2: only had what music you put on it.
Speaker 4: Right, did you guys have like the visor on your
Speaker 4: car with the sleeve or like this CD sleeve on
Speaker 4: your car visor or the console.
Speaker 2: I had the console with all of the cases.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember we when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: we had like we would listen to music at dinner.
Speaker 1: We would like put anya on her you know, some
Speaker 1: sort of like dinner non lyrical music. And we had
Speaker 1: this nice big stereo system that had like a CD
Speaker 1: changer in it, and that was like the revolutionary technology
Speaker 1: at the time, so you could put like thirty CDs
Speaker 1: in it and then just pick whichever CD you wanted
Speaker 1: to play from the same player. The guys are rich, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were really Yeah. Yeah, we lived good for a
Speaker 1: couple of years there, but then it all went downhill
Speaker 1: real fast, like off a cliff. I guess you could say.
Speaker 1: That's another thing too, Jared, I want to wanted to
Speaker 1: ask about I don't know, you're you're upbringing. He was
Speaker 1: like kind of middle class, right, lower middle class.
Speaker 4: Ah, why don't know what the definition of lower middle classes?
Speaker 4: I mean we had my dad worked. My mom did not.
Speaker 1: I mean she would waitress every once in a while.
Speaker 1: But and then my dad, you.
Speaker 4: Know, he's he was a I mean, I don't want
Speaker 4: to say just a prison guard, like he was a
Speaker 4: captain of the ACI. But yeah, I mean we My
Speaker 4: house's modest house I grew up in with four people,
Speaker 4: which is insanity. My poor parents. I don't know, like
Speaker 4: a thousand square feet I guess maybe a little less,
Speaker 4: so that's tiny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so i'd say middle class to lower middle class, right,
Speaker 1: and so now you and Ashley owner position where you're
Speaker 1: upper middle class. I would say to give that to Dawson.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty cool experience. My brother is kind of
Speaker 1: the same way. You know, his upbringing was middle class
Speaker 1: to lower middle class, with spurts of some money throughout,
Speaker 1: but not significant. And now him and his wife are
Speaker 1: doing really well. So he's like, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: give my daughter everything that I wasn't able to have
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I think that's pretty cool too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: I also don't want I want him to know the
Speaker 4: value in.
Speaker 1: Earning your money That's the tough thing about it too.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you instill that? Because you want
Speaker 1: to give them everything that they ever asked for, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to instill good values
Speaker 1: and work ethic.
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, I mean, I don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: we already actually, and I have many conversations about, you know,
Speaker 4: his college fund or safety net or insurance money or
Speaker 4: things of that nature to make sure that Dawson is fine.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I I you know, there's there's a there's
Speaker 4: a big part of me that really wants him to
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just I'm such a guy, like I
Speaker 4: want him to.
Speaker 1: Earn his weight through this world. You know, if his
Speaker 1: hands aren't callous by the time he's entering elementary school,
Speaker 1: you're blowing it. Hey, right, if Ashley started smoking cigarettes,
Speaker 1: what would your reaction be. I mean, I wouldn't like it, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would tell her to stop.
Speaker 4: What if she had of her mind? What if she
Speaker 4: didn't stop? I would not want to be with someone
Speaker 4: who smoked all the time. Are you talking about like
Speaker 4: smoking a packa day or like.
Speaker 1: One packa day? Wow?
Speaker 4: Why why are you bringing this up? Are you are
Speaker 4: you smoking now, No, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I did say randomly, like a month ago, I was like,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get into smoking cigarettes, and
Speaker 1: like not serious, but I was just like, yeah, i'd
Speaker 1: be cool, happy to get into. Obviously would never do it.
Speaker 1: But Caylen and I were at dinner with a bunch
Speaker 1: of friends the other night, you know, we were all,
Speaker 1: you know, a little drunk, I guess, and I was like,
Speaker 1: the subject of smoking cigarettes came up, and I was like, killing,
Speaker 1: if you started smoking cigarettes, I think I'd probably ask
Speaker 1: for a divorce.
Speaker 2: I never would. And also he for him to bring
Speaker 2: up two weeks ago and say I think I want
Speaker 2: to start smoking cigarettes. But I know deed and I
Speaker 2: know how to react with him, so I just didn't respond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was just looking for a reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then I woke up the next day I killed him.
Speaker 1: The next day. I was like, do you remember talking
Speaker 1: about getting divorced me last night? I was like, no,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: said if I started smoking cigarettes, he divorced me. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's different. I stand by that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can tell that's charlest me
Speaker 4: man My dad smoked when I was a kid, and like,
Speaker 4: you walk into a room and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, he's just didn't headache.
Speaker 1: You're get in his car or something, and it just
Speaker 1: has that smell. My dad smoked cigarettes when I was
Speaker 1: a kid too. He would uh he. So I asked
Speaker 1: my mom about it, and I was like, Mom, what's
Speaker 1: dad doing. She's like, Oh, he's smoking a cigarette. If
Speaker 1: you ever see him smoking a cigarette, you're allowed punch
Speaker 1: him as hard as you can. And so until I
Speaker 1: was like a teenager, I would walk up to my dad,
Speaker 1: see him smoking a cigarette, just give him the biggest
Speaker 1: dead arm I possibly could.
Speaker 2: And he was fine.
Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, I guess if that's what it
Speaker 1: takes to let me keep smoking cigarette. Right. I always
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of funny, But I guess that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna do it for this week's episode. Right, unless
Speaker 1: there's anything else you guys want to touch on, we
Speaker 1: hit it all talking about memory. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: what we talked about today, so hopefully you guys enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Pop culture, Easter, memories.
Speaker 1: Cigarettes, cigarettes, all good things. Alrighty, you guys, that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it for this week's episode of Suckers Jared Klin
Speaker 1: love you be shooted to you in next week, where
Speaker 1: maybe we suck just a little bit less