WEBVTT - Barista Dean 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.640 This is Suckers. I'm Kiln Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:05.920 I'm Jared Habn. 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.280 An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.039 Hello everybody, Welcome to an all new episode of Suckers. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.640 This is Dean Bell, joined by Kaylan and Jared. Per usual, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:22.880 we just got back from the iHeartRadio Awards and we. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.800 Had an absolute last, very fantastic. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.360 I always dread going to things like this, but I 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:29.560 actually had a good time this time for the first time. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.240 No, I feel like you say that a lot, and 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.800 you usually do have a really good time if you 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.160 have friends there. You had been there. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.279 I did have been there. I just could. I could 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.400 go on the ear with Ben, I could go to 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.479 I could go to a foot acupuncture class, and I 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.680 was still a good time. I don't even know what 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.640 I would actually really not enjoy, but yeah, I know 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.440 we had a good time. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.480 We saw so many people perform. We saw Share, Jennifer Hudson, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.440 Beyonce came out on stage. She didn't perform, but she 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.760 came out on stage. We saw Green Day, just Timberlake. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.400 Yeah, it was a stacked line of Oh my gosh. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:04.160 It was crazy. Ludacris. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.760 Ludacris was so good jelly Roll was good. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:07.759 Tate McCrae was good. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.319 Tate mccree's like so gen Z. She was good, but 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.240 she's like not someone that I'm super excited to see. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.160 She was good, but she was good. She had a 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.160 cool outfit. I like the boots she was in. Cameo 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.720 bright orange was the exact opposite of camera cameo and orange. No, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.160 there was not a lick of camo on the stage 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.520 when she was performing because hives orange and all of 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.480 her dancers were in Highve's orange. But she crushed it. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.360 Who else there? I feel like we're missing someone. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.120 It was your favorite because there were so many good ones. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:37.120 I think share for me. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.319 I think it was cool to see share. She was 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:41.320 lip syncing. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.680 No she wasn't. You were saying that, No she wasn't. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:44.679 I believe she was. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:45.440 She was. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.600 It was really Jennifer Hudson. That just blew me away. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.680 Everyone was great, But the second Jay hud started singing 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.040 it like it, I like felt it in my body, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.680 like it hit my the core of my body. I 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.320 don't know. She just had such a presence and her 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.160 voice was so amazing and she was just belting it out. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.280 So I think she was probably my favorite. Luda was 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.120 really good, and Justin Timberlake of course was really good. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.919 But they were all they were all pretty good. I 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.320 really liked it because whenever we go to stuff like this, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.160 I feel like stuff kind of like drags on for 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.200 too long. But with all them, it was like two 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.960 songs abbreviated songs, and so it was kind of like 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.799 quick and light, and everything was kind of going by 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.440 really fast, and so I really enjoyed that. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.640 Yeah, and everyone was great. I just sent in the 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.079 chat she wasn't camo. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.160 Oh she wasn't. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.760 Yeah, she just sent it in the chest. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:35.200 She was not. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.320 She was an orange in camo. She was wearing a 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:38.080 cameo jacket. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.240 There's nothing camo about this that you just sent me. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:46.639 She's wearing orange Brazil with orange brazier black shorts. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.160 Scroll down. That is a camo jacket. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.160 It's like silver. It's like listening. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.720 That is camo, all right? 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.480 Well, from this from the where we were, it didn't 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.600 look camo to me, I guess because it's camouflage and 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.359 you can't see it. I've never heard of Taate. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.880 McCray, but you've heard her songs on TikTok. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:07.279 She was pretty good. She was pretty good. Really unattractive 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.280 is what Ben kept saying. He's like, she's just not 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.000 attractive at all because she's very pretty. She's very pretty, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.440 like stupidly pretty. Not as pretty as my wife obviously, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.200 but you know, obviously it was funny too because she's 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.560 twenty and then every other performer was, you know, big 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.640 in the nineties. Yeah, and then we get this girl 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.040 who's twenty years old and hot on the scene. But 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.280 it was good. Taylor Swift was. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.360 There, No, she wasn't. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.800 Taylor Swift was there to accept her awards, but I 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.160 went to. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.120 The bathroom and then I got locked out until the 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.160 next commercial break in, so Dean's trying to convince me. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.200 Taylor Swift came on stage and she wasn't because I 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.040 watched the whole thing. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.160 Accepted her awards and she was so grateful. I'm proud. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.160 No, Beyonce was there and that was pretty cool. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.960 Jar. Do you ever get a fomo for missing this 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:49.560 kind of stuff? 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.520 Only if there's it really depends on who's there. Obviously, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.560 when you guys are there and Ben's there, if it's 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.720 a good crew going, then we always get a little 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.680 foam And yeah, I had a little fomo just from 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:09.400 the amount of star power that was there, Like Holy 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.400 justin Timberlake, Beyonce was there. I would see Jennifer Hudson. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.920 I don't really know any Jennifer Hudson songs, but I 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.240 would love to hear her voice live. It's like if 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.599 you hear go God's voice, you know, there's just like 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:23.479 something about it. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.359 You're like, yeah, who. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.320 There are a lot of good voices in this world, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:32.560 but then there are just voices that just are cannot 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.480 be replicated and you have to hear And I think 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.680 people like Jennifer Hudson Go Go's got a voice like that. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.919 I think Goga is so underrated. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.640 I know she's like one of the biggest pop stars 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.120 in the world, but I think that she should be 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.960 like Taylor Swift level, but she's not. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.200 She's had a weird like story arc I feel like 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.200 because there's always kind of a lot of like controversy 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.160 around her, even though she's never really done anything to 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:54.560 deserve it. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.760 I feel like Lady Gaga is there controversy. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.240 I just remember like a lot of stupid rumors about 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.160 her when we were younger. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.240 Well, she also did like crazy stuff like she wore 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.200 dress made out of meat. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.679 Oh well, that's not really enough to get. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.080 Like address of raw steaks. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.680 Yeah, that's interesting, but no, Jennifer Hudson didn't sing. She 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.200 sung a Share song. So what they announced Share is 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.200 like the icon of the year or something like that. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.000 And they were like and performing SHARE's song, it's Jennifer Hudson, 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.279 and so we're like, oh man, we don't get to 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.680 hear it Share sing, but Jennifer Hudson's gonna crush it. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.400 And she did amazing. And then after Jennifer Hudson finished 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.840 theare's first song, Share came on stage for the second song. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.120 She was lip syncing, but she was. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.599 She wasn't And she's also in her seventies right, yes, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:37.680 oh my gosh. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.479 By the way, sorry to interrupt you. I think I 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.200 came to a realization when they were going through like 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.200 the Share montage of her career. She's been performing for 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.880 seven decades, insane for fifty something years. And when they 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.080 went back it the math works out. Trust me, I 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.080 did it in my head. When they were going back 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.880 to Share like in her twenties and early thirties. I 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.240 was watching and I was like, oh my gosh, I 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.480 think I understand why Maria is so popular in the 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.720 Bachelor because. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:06.080 She's like share. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.880 Maria gives me young Share vibes, I think is what 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.800 it is. Something about the physically, yeah, something about the face, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.599 and something about maybe like the confidence. I don't know 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:17.960 what it is, but I was like, maybe that's why 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:23.040 everyone has such a fascination with Maria because they kind 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.960 of have share vibes from her too, whether they realize 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.719 it or not, you know, but shares obviously a huge 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.599 icon for a reason, and so maybe anyone with that 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:30.680 same type of. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.520 Style as I don't think they're like anything like but well. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.520 Of course not shares now seventy five years ago. No 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.400 young young Share, no young Share. I don't know. It 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.039 was just a thought, a passing thought that I had, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.720 and it kind of explained it to me why people 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.360 would be so invested in Maria because they might. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:52.000 Yeah. Also, on reality TV, we spent probably like five 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.800 hours of The Iheartwards with Rachel Evis. So Rachel did 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.840 something really horrible. We all know that she knows that 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.200 she did something really bad, but she didn't go back 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.840 on vander Pump rules. She Tom Is. Tom's on it 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.360 and he's getting to like redeem himself and people are 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.160 forgiving him, but nobody's forgiving her. And it's the classic 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.400 like we forgive the guy, but we don't forgive the 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.280 girl because we put women against each other and she 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.800 did something terrible. She like got treatment and has been 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.480 working on herself, and I think it's time to forgive. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.360 Yeah, And while we're at it, are people not forgiving. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.360 I don't think so. Maybe I don't think so. It's 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.200 also hard to because she's not on the show, so 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.400 she doesn't really get to like tell her side of things. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.080 You know, why is she not on the show? 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.480 She decided not to and I think it was so 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.240 smart for her not to do it. But then Tom's 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.560 on it and Tom like people are shooting on Tom 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.520 but also forgiving Tom, and I just feel bad for 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:44.840 the girl. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.400 Tom stinks. Also Arianna stinks. Yeah, Rachel, she's great. And 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.240 I've been saying this room of the get go, and 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.000 I'm so proud of myself. I remember once when we 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.560 first watched the reunion, we like went to a party together, right, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.320 and I was defending Rachel a little bit. I mean, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:07:59.840 obviously not her. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.440 She can't defend what she did right better actions. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.600 But like her follow up of it, like the accountability 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.680 she's taking and all that stuff. And you were like, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.120 would you hit me in the arm? And you'd be 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.800 like stop, stop saying that. You shouldn't be saying that, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.600 And I was like, I don't care. I have a 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.400 good feeling that I'm right, and it just it feels 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.080 good to be right. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.400 Well, it's really cool to see someone take full ownership, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.520 like I did something wrong, I screwed up. I'm going 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.040 to do everything I can to make it right. Tom 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.960 is doing the exact opposite. Tom is comparing himself to O. J. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.240 Simpson and he won't take accountability. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.480 Why is he comparing himself to OJ Simpson and thinking 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:35.199 that's a good idea. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:40.480 He compared scanned of vaut to OJ Simpson and George Floyd. Yeah, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.840 and it was really really bad. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.480 But I haven't really seen anything talk about that besides 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.080 when we talked about it on your podcast. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.320 Yeah, it kind of got brushed over, which is shocking. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.680 It's insane. And I was telling Ben this last night 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.640 or two nights ago, I guess when we were after 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.640 the concert on that stuff, and we were alway just 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.800 kind of sit around hanging out. I said, there's nothing 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.319 more appealing and person than someone that's a willing, willing 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 to take accountability. And I think Rachel did that and 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.200 is still doing it and is working on it, and 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.320 she's knows she's made a mistake. She's beat the first 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.760 one to admit it. You look at Tom not so 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.320 much obviously, you look at Ariana, who didn't really make 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:17.800 a mistake. I guess, so it's kind of hard to 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.600 rope her into that as well. But her behavior is 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.120 just like she's she's almost like she's almost like happy 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.080 that it happened to her, because she's like cashing in 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.120 on it. Is what I feel like. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.320 She is thriving, she's like doing better than she ever 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.199 would have if this didn't happen. And I haven't watch 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.280 last night's episode, but I got caught up before that, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:36.920 and like Tom came up to her and was like, Hey, 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.440 just want to make sure you saw my email from 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.880 the lawyers, and then the stare that she gave him. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.200 She like ignored him, acted like he doesn't exist, and 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.360 it's like at some point you need to move on, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.120 you need to just like I just think Rachel's handling 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.760 this a lot better than Arian is. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.640 Honestly, Yeah, again, I just still feel so proud of myself. Hey, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.360 John never questioned my judgment again. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.960 I also, Brittany Snow came out on her daddy recently, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.679 and I think that is how you should respond if so, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.840 if your partner has cheated on you. Her husband cheated 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:10.040 on her on reality television. She watched it and she's 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.719 handling it so well. She's like, yeah, they screwed up, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.560 but also our relationship wasn't perfect and I wasn't perfect, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.439 and she can own that even though he did something 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:18.439 awful and she did on her. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.760 Anyways, that's our pop culture segment for the day. I 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.240 guess we're doing that Calen's corner. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:24.720 I feel like I should chime in, maybe we should 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.360 talk about I do think this leads to a bigger 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:31.800 conversation just about relationships in general, and like I guess 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:37.719 human nature because we're so imperfect in life, but. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.280 Not that we have to be perfect in relationships. But 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:41.760 I don't know. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.040 I just find it's interesting. I think we're all just flawed. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.520 Like you guys are talking about Tom Sandfall and whatever 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.040 about that, but you were talking about Rachel. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.920 Is it Raquel or Rachel Rachel. Now, you're not an idiot. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.880 I know you know Rachel. Now you know as Raquel. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.440 You know her as Raquel from the show, but she 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.920 now goes by Rachel. Yeah wait a minute. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.320 It was so so she in like elementary school, there 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:06.920 are a bunch of Rachel's, so she decided to go 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.200 by Raquel to be different. And then when this came out, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.440 everyone's like, oh, that's not even her real name, So 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:13.400 now she goes by Rachel. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:14.679 I knew it. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.040 I freaking I was like, so you're saying Rachel. I 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.640 was like, oh, I thought it was Raquel. But obviously 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.720 I'm wrong because I don't keep up with this stuff. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:21.320 Ah. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.480 So anyway, so Rachel, Yeah, obviously what they did was wrong, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.200 but I don't and it was good for TV. But 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.120 in terms of like general consensus, you talk about Britney 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.680 Snow So you're saying that her husband cheated on her. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:37.640 How long were they married for? 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.160 I don't know, maybe a couple of years. But he 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.920 her husband was on selling suns at oc and she 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.120 watched it and there was like some weird stuff going on. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.040 So he's on reality TV. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.199 Yeah, he stopped after that season because it was really 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:49.800 bad for him? 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.480 Why was it so so? He well, he cheated on 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.160 his she did on her on TV. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.000 They like he didn't sleep with someone on TV. But 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.240 there was like weird stuff going on, like this girl 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.160 sucked on his tongue and just weird stuff. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.200 Yeah, I'd say that's a little weird. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.199 Yeah, if a girl was sucking on your tongue, I 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.480 would be like, what the hell? 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.480 Well, and also if it happened a year ago and 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.800 then all of a sudden, you're just seeing it happen 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.839 on TV. What a flawed marriage that must have been. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.960 Yeah, But the way she handled it, she was like, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.360 I'm not going to talk crap about them. I'm not 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.000 going to give them any space or energy. I'm just 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.320 going to move on and move past this and also 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.800 own my part in it. She's like, you know, like 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.640 there were issues in our relationship or whatever, and why 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.800 can't Arianna do that? Just move on, just be like 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.199 there were issues, let's move on. Let me be a 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:34.959 nice human now. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.360 Yeah, I agree. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:43.000 Okay, further idiot, Arianna was Tom Sandoval's wife. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.520 Girlfriend of like eight to ten years or so. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.400 Okay, okay, got it, got it. See, I just need 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:49.600 the context. That's all I need. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.600 I've been getting this context every week for the past 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.719 few months. Yes see, Dean gets it every day. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.320 I gotta get it. On the podcast What did you 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.199 do this weekend? 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:58.960 Jared? 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.440 And what we had ead? We went to my brother 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.720 in law's house. They had a big Easter egg hunt, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.360 and it was fun seeing Dawson just run around with 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:08.360 my niece Nora. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:11.280 It's fun seeing those. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.280 Two together because they're just so little and adorable that 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.199 like just seeing them run around and have no idea 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.240 what the hell is happening in the world. It was 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.520 a lot of fun. And he doesn't really fully understand 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.800 the concept of the egg hunt yet, Like he he 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.400 was grasping the idea of going after the eggs, getting 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.880 an egg and putting it in his basket, but he 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.960 also like would put one in his basket and then 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.360 drop his basket, or then he grabbed three or four 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.480 eggs and then he'd stop and he would be distracted 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:43.000 by something else. But that was nice. And so it 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.680 was at his It wasn't my brother in law's house, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.960 it was his aunt's house, but it was his side 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:52.199 of the family. And then just been working we did. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.640 I think I talked about it. We did the Bachelor finale, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.400 We had a watch party at Audrey's, which was Banana Land. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.040 It was so busy and crazy and so thank you 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.040 you If anybody's listening to this podcast were coming out 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.920 that evening. It was so busy but so much fun. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.080 I had an Easter ecunt on on Easter you did? Yeah, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.640 I went golfing, which is kind of like a crun 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:22.960 up version of an Easter egg hunt. Did you guys 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.240 get each other for anything for Easter? 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:24.560 Now? 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.120 We didn't even get I don't even think that's the 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.200 correct answer. I don't even think we acknowledged Easter when 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.800 we were together, did we? We said, I don't even 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:32.360 think we did that. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.160 Yes we did, did we? 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.080 I just remember not realizing it was Easter until like noon, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.240 and I was like, oh gosh, it's Easter, And I 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.240 was trying to think back back to, like my favorite 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.000 Easter is. Do you guys have any good Easter stories 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.040 from when you were kids? The only one I can 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.440 really think of for myself was we were on a 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.560 family vacation and steamboat and my mom used to always 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.440 hide baskets and she like still brought them to steamboat 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.160 with her or something like that. She used to hide 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.720 baskets around the house, so you would have to look 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.840 around all day until you find your basket. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:02.240 All day. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.160 Well, you know, it depends how hard you hit it. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:04.800 Oh my gosh. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.440 My mom would hide them and we found them pretty quickly. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.120 We have to find your basket and then you can 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.600 find the eggs. But you can't, oh, find the eggs 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:12.600 until you get your basket. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.520 We didn't have eggs though, It was just a basket 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:15.960 for us. And then in the basket would be like 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:16.920 all the goodies and stuff. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.920 We would always do like the candy plastic eggs that 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.240 had candy inside, and then she would hard boil them 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.240 and we would do like dying them and stuff. And 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.440 there's one year that we lost like three hard boiled eggs. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.600 Just into the ether, into the ether, just gone forever. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.200 We're like, once it starts smelling, we'll find them. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.160 We used to paint eggs occasionally. I don't think that 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.760 was like a tradition of ours, but like every so 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.440 often we would do it and that was fun. I 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.880 remember enjoying that quite a bit, but I don't I'm. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.520 Excited to do that with our kids. 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.760 Yeah, well, I mean it's still a long ways away, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.640 because it doesn't sound like Dawson's even kind of at 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.160 that stage yet, right, No, not really, I mean it's 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.240 just we. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.800 Anything we do with Dawson is truthfully for us right now, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:58.480 not for him. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:15:58.720 Yeah. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.920 I mean he finds enjoyment it. But I could give 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.600 him a paper cup and he would find so much 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.560 enjoyment for that for like five minutes and then move 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.040 on to the other thing, like it's crazy. Ashley made 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.240 him this on Easter morning. It was a waffle and 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.640 she put bananas on it and made it. She made 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.960 it look like a bunny. I don't know, we ate it, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.840 like she put all this hard work in. She took 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.000 pictures of it, obviously for the GRAM. You'll realize when 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.960 you put all this work in, it's like mostly for 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.040 you for your own enjoyment, and then. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:28.640 It's like nice. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.440 They enjoy it for like a second, he might if 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.760 you're lucky, you'll get like a whoa, and then that's that. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.680 Then you're like okay, and then it was all worth it. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.920 That half a second whoa was totally worth it. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.400 I'm excited for it. I feel like this Christmas, this 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.720 past Christmas, I realized holidays are for kids, and I 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.560 just feel like, like Christmas, you know, it was all 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.240 about the kids, and it's less about being an adult 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.960 on Christmas. And so I'm just excited to create these 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.720 traditions and have these holidays with the kids. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.200 Now. Like how you're talking to me like I have 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.240 no idea what a holiday is? 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.720 Well, you were looking at me like you confused. So 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.440 I was like, do I need to explain. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.800 This to you? Well, I guess because this was the 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.320 first holiday that we spent Christmas is what you're referring 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.119 to with our two niece and nephew. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.080 Yeah, because pre kids, it was like you drink, you 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.680 play games, you stay up all night. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.119 Gosh, and that's all I want to do still, But 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.960 my brothers can't do that or yeah, and so. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.439 I was like, okay, so Christmas is different now and 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.080 we I'm just excited for the kids. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.199 One brother's pretty good at staying up, but his baby's 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.480 way younger than the other brother. Yeah, he's like, ah, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.280 the baby's six month old. It's fine, it can it 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.359 can be alone for an hour. And then the other 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.359 brother is like, crap, where's my baby? I gotta go 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:36.679 Exactly wherever she is. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.520 Yeah, she's running around like crazy. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.920 But yeah, I could see your point. Holidays are for 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.080 the kids, just like Saturdays are for the boys, and 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.480 like tricks are for kids as well. Yes, that's absolutely right. Yeah, 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:54.960 so Easter didn't celebrate anything, and I guess that's probably 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.520 what our feature is going to look like for a while. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.280 Well maybe in the fall, will have baby. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.119 We were talking like start, we were talking to Kathy 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.240 from Golden Bachelor. You want to tell uh what she 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:05.960 said to her? You? 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.679 Yeah, she's She said, I'm gonna tell you what I 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.119 just told your husband. Don't have kids until you can't breathe. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.320 And I was like, what does that mean? She was 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.240 like just I don't know. She was like, just wait 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.720 as long as you can to have kids. And I 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.560 was like, I'm kind of ready now, you're not ready now, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.719 and like six months, I'll be ready six months. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.000 Yeah, that's funny because before it was like three years 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:27.200 and now it's down a six month. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:28.760 It's getting closer and closer. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:31.239 How many kids does she have? 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:32.560 Are you? 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.040 Maybe she has it? 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.719 Maybe one, she has kids, I would say two to three. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.560 Well, I hope is she's telling you to wait until 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.359 you can't breathe to have kids. She has personal experience. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.119 Yeah that's true. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.280 Yeah, I was like that, I've never heard that one before. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:50.879 But she's like, you're going to have them for the 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.760 rest of your life, no rush, And I get that. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.040 But she's she's an anomaly to me. She has so 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.719 much energy, so much a person of her age. I 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.720 feel like she dwarfs me in terms of energy. And 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.520 she's like talking to me and then she'll go to 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:06.879 Ben and she'll go to you, or she'll go to 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.520 Rachel and she'll carry that same energy from one conversation 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.600 to the next for the entire time that we're hanging 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.640 out with her. And I'm looking I'm just exhausted watching her. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.399 And I can only hope to have that much energy 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.040 when I'm in my sixties. So I mean, good for her. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.960 They just announced their podcasts, Susan and Kathy. They're making 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.920 their rounds. It seems like they're doing good. Susan's great 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.080 as well. She seems to be She seems to kind 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:30.200 of real Kathy in a little bit. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.600 Yeah, watching the show, you think it'd be the opposite. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.400 You think that she would have more energy, but she's 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:36.520 like she's pretty calm. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.000 Yeah. Have you got any of those golden bachelorettes out 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.920 for your coffee shop? 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.040 Jared, No, A lot of them are probably still under contract. 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:46.639 I like to go after the people who are not 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.719 onto contract. Speaking of which, when do you guys want 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.520 to come out? 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:50.639 Spring or summer? 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.960 We actually just got under contract yesterday, so we can't 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:54.399 be out. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.120 For a five years. I don't think congratulations, we're going 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.960 to the East Coast. You got to get over your fear. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.760 Yeah, bro, just come and then you'll work. I'm telling you, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.040 you'll come. You'll you'll go behind the counter. He will 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:12.040 just some coffee. Yeah, dude, I'll be I'm not joking. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.879 I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on on like a Saturday. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.320 Would you rather bartender? Would you rather be a barista? 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.000 I think I could do both, just clear out the 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.200 shop of all your employees can do. 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:25.359 But what would you rather do? 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.119 Because I'll put you on like a Saturday day or 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.280 I'll put you on a Friday night. 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.360 I think bartending would be safer because there's less hot 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.080 drinks going around, and so I would be less likely 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:35.080 to like hurt myself. 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.119 Yeah, you don't have to steam milk that's a possible. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.439 Here's here's my here's my proposal to you. I'll do 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.200 this happily, but I have to we have to split 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.560 the profit share for the day. However much money you make, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.320 I get half of it. I don't make them. Well, 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.760 first of all, I make no money. So that's number one. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.040 I'll give you. I'll tip you out, I'll give you tips. 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:55.680 Now I want half of them. I don't want tips. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:56.720 I want half of the revenue. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.760 I was gonna ask you, like, it's not profitable a jace. 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.199 Of course it is. It has to be. It is 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.679 not profitable. Of course it's not. I can't, of course not. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.320 It's more uh so like I have not made my 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.879 initial investment back, which I knew I it would take 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.960 a while, but it's hard because labor cost is so high, 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.440 food cost is so high. It costs so much to 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.280 keep the business going. And then, as everybody who owns 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.720 a restaurant knows, your margins are small, and it always 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.879 needs work, like it always needs something, whether it be 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.440 tables are breaking, or equipment's going down, or I need 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.280 service people to come in and fix the fireplace, fix 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:37.640 the walk in, the coolers down. 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.879 You know, well that's where dean people come in. You 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.200 can fix these things, all. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.120 These things for you, yet for free and not pay 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.199 you obviously. Hey, sorry, I can't make your drink right now. 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.280 I gotta go around and fix the refrigerator real quick. 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.200 I'll give you an example, dude. It was so. 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:57.919 Our walk in started, it went down, and obviously the 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.639 walking is very important. It has to hold temp and 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:00.959 if it does the whole temp we need to get 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.359 the food out immediately so it doesn't grow back here yet. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.040 So it stopped holding temperature. Like shoot, I'm not gonna 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:07.560 square shoot. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.520 But then I called the service department that I said, 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.200 you know, take and they were like, well, we probably 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.000 won't be able to get there to till tomorrow. Like 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:17.680 all right, so I have to get all this food 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.320 out of there, and like I'm I'm putting it anywhere 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.679 I can to make sure that's holding temperature in proper refrigerator, 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.280 which takes all hours. And then the next day he 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.080 comes literally I didn't even know, so it still wasn't 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:28.640 holding temp. It was like eleven o'clock in the morning, 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.560 and all of a sudden, this guy comes like in. 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.120 He's like, oh, so what happened. So long story short, 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.560 so refrigerida was not working. And then I looked over 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.960 and all of a sudden, the temperature started going down 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.439 because it's supposed to below forty one degrees, and it 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.680 was at like forty seven, and then I looked over 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:45.040 it was forty four, and then I looked over as 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.560 forty two, and then I looked over thirty eight and 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.639 it started to erature, and I was like, what the 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:51.399 hell happened? And all of a sudden, this guy came in. 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.960 He was like, hey, it's working out right. I said yeah. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:55.560 He's like, oh, you just needed a little oil in 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.479 the back. I came. I came in earlier, put some 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.280 oil in there, fixed it up a little bit. It's 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:00.280 good to go. He was there. 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.119 I'm not joking. I don't know between putting the oil 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.680 in ten minutes or so, ten to fifteen minutes, came back, 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.440 checked in on it was in the store for ninety seconds. 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.879 Left it was six hundred dollars. 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.720 Yeah, but that's how that goes. There's a little just 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.320 like good God. There's the old adage. You don't pay 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:19.920 me for the amount of time i'm working, You pay 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:21.360 me for the knowledge that I have or like where 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:22.439 to swing the hammer kind of thing. 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.200 Yeah, you should FaceTime d next time. 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.760 No, no, but fas. 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.359 Time you next time. There's an issue and you can 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:28.680 fix it. 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.760 But you just lost over my super thing that I 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.640 was saying again, Oh here we go. You don't pay 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.399 me to swing the hammer. You pay me to nowhere 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.879 to swing the hammer is essentially what it is. So 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.000 like you pay them six hundred dollars because otherwise you 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.639 would there's no way that you would have known that 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.080 it needed a little bit of oil in the back. 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:48.000 You know, no, exactly exactly so, but anyway, my point 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.800 being is that it's it's it's it's not profitable. What 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.560 I mean, there are other aspects. I mean, obviously I 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.080 want to make money off of it because I want 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.639 to ensure that it continues growing or continues going. Excuse me, 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:00.680 but I do love the sense of cam that has 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:05.000 really built, and I love the relationship that like I 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.080 have with the clientele and my employees as well. There 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:11.480 is a lot of positive affirmations in that. But dude, yeah, 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.400 you and I just like I would love to work 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.000 with you. I'm not even joking, like I would be 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.639 behind the counter because I am. Or I'm in the 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.159 kitchen and like Brom, I'm training you what to do 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:21.760 in the moment. 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.960 Can we open up a Colorado branch and we can 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.120 call it Ja Lias. There we go because you named 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.080 it after your mother in law? Right? Oh yeah, I 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.400 was like, am I supposed to know who Jayla is? Yeah? 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.400 That's Kaitlyn's mom's name. So we just keep the mother 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.840 in law street going. Or I was gonna say Debbie's. 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.840 Debbie's I think would maybe be a little more like 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.679 of a classic name. Yeah, but then that's a little 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:43.399 selfish of me. 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.840 Yeah, and generous is in uh Colorado, so you're not 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.000 far So we can. 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.920 Get the beans right there, get the beans, the locally 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.760 sourced under and beans. That's right. Yeah. Well, I mean, 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:58.800 you know, props to you. You've been running this business 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.680 for a while, so that's great. I think you've definitely 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:03.959 done a lot better job than I could possibly imagine doing. So. 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.680 Uh, it's just a grind, man, It's just every day, 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.440 you know, which I enjoy there. 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.560 I love working, like I love to work. 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.520 Just ask Ashley, like I need to work, I need 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.919 to get my hands dirty. Uh but uh, yeah, it's 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:25.560 a lot. 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.000 If you didn't have Audrey's what would you fill your 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:32.399 days with? 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.639 You think, good question. 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.600 I don't know, honestly, I mean probably much more social 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.119 media centric. I mean, La was easier to fill our 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.520 days because there were so many networking meetings or events 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.680 or things that we had to go to to fill 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.399 our time, so to speak, because it just felt like, 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.960 you know, when we were living there, as you guys know, 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.280 you're just in the hub of the entertainment industry, specifically 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:59.560 before COVID, where it just felt like every single day 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.320 is like just meeting with this person or talking to 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.440 this person or going here or going there, and it's 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:09.560 all about like meeting people and you know, creating relationships 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.119 that form into partnerships. 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.679 Do you ever miss La, Jared, Do I miss La? No? 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:23.200 There are If I could, I would say, be able 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.120 to go in and out. But man, like the idea 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.200 of flying cross country sounds awful. 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:29.280 But like living because you lived there for a while, 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.080 so you don't ever miss living there, I guess is 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:31.600 my question. 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.360 Yeah, I definitely don't miss living there. I mean, obviously 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.680 I miss the weather a lot of times. I love 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:42.400 the changing of the seasons. I like here the New 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.600 England where and weather obviously is talked about so much, 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.280 and it's probably like, oh, this guy has nothing else 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.399 to talk about besides the weather, but obviously is a 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.320 huge impact on our daily lives. 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:52.720 Yeah, but we are. 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.800 Entering peak season in New England, which I'm very excited 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.960 about because seasonal depression is a very real thing. In January, February, March, 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.800 it's just like me out of here. So I do 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.240 miss that, like waking up in January and it's like 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.280 fifty degrees outside and I walk low as. 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:07.680 I'm like, oh, this is nice. 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:13.480 But I mean, I just I always felt uneasy over there. 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.680 I always felt I was waiting for like California to 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.160 fall off into the ocean. Still am I still think 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:19.680 about that. 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:21.160 I think about that. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:21.680 All the time. 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.080 That video, No, that it's the what is it? 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.600 The oh the san andres falling. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.440 Yes, should have broken off a while ago. 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.640 So well, they say it's definitely going to interrupt within 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.520 the next fifty years, like it's just inevitable. 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.000 This is really just so so insignificant and so tangential. 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.840 But I was playing golf there last month. We were 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.240 standing on the tea box and all of a sudden, 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.280 this tea box started shaking underneath our feet, and I 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:46.960 at first I was like, someone's just playing loud music. 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.400 And I was like, wait, no, I'm standing on ground. 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.800 I'm not like standing in a house or building. And 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.760 then I look around and everyone else like stops what 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.879 they're doing, and there it was a you know, magnitude 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.679 three earthquake, so pretty small, but it's just crazy that 0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:58.960 there is. And then we just like went back to 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.080 playing golf like nothing ever had, you know, you know, 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.760 it's just so crazy. You're just like, ah, that's fine, whatever, 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:04.280 let's gone. 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.639 Can we also, I know people say that this really 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.680 is the greatest time to be alive, the idea that 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.399 you're standing on a golf course in California, the earth 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.959 shakes and then it stops, and then you're like, all right, 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.560 let's just all right, I'm to how far are we to? 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.719 Sixty? Yeahct no exactly. It was so it was so 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.320 surreal because it was just like just such a non thing, 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:30.800 you know. 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.760 But dude, and it's just like crazy to think about. 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.800 Ashley and I were looking up life expectancy the other day, 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.400 and in nineteen fifty, the life expectancy for a male 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:46.200 was like sixty four. Yeah, and that's not long ago. 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.280 No, you know, I do think there's a weird thing 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.400 with life's expectancye how it's it's kind of going down 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.000 a little bit, like it was higher ten years ago 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.800 than it is now. Something strange, But abut it. Yes, 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.880 I do agree. It's so much better to be alive 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.800 now than in the fifty It's the best time to 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.920 be alive than any other peer previous time in his 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.120 It's not because because of healthcare and all that stuff. 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.200 I can't remember, you know why. I don't think it's strange. 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.400 It's because I truly believe that these things are killing us. 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.440 Oh yeah, but yeah, also, I can't live without it. 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.080 So it's like if it takes off, Like I'll ask 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:22.160 a question for you guys. If you know that this 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.920 thing your phone is going to take is taking two 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.800 years off your life, Oh so you could live just 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.280 too wo so like you would have lived till eighty two, 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.400 but now you're gonna die at eighty but you get 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:36.960 to have your phone. 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.840 I try to cut back a little bit and give 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.440 myself a year back. 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.400 I think the quality of life that you have near 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.360 the end isn't as as great and full as it 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.760 is in your thirties and forties and fifties eighty two. Yes, 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.040 but I guarantee you he was much cooler and more 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:55.720 energetic at thirty two, you know. And if the phone 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.479 allows you to network and connect with people, that enhances 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.080 your life to a certain degree. You're going to get 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.040 more out of two extra years in your thirties than 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:07.000 you would in your eighties. So I'm pro phone, even 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:07.959 if it gives me cancer. 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.320 But yeah, I mean, cancer is just crazy, man. But anyway, Yeah, 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.040 it is interesting to see the life expected. He's going 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.360 down a little bit, but it's still high. I mean 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.760 for a male, it's mid seventies, women high seventies. 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.200 I do have a I always say to people, and 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.960 Kilen always kind of rolls her eyes at me, that 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.240 I think I'm going to be I'm going to live 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.120 to be one hundred and forty. I think generally, generally, 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:29.720 you know, give or take ten years. 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.080 He says that, and then he also says he might 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:33.280 die before he's forty. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.280 If I die before I'm forty, it'll be through like, 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.040 you know, some sort of cool, crazy accident that everyone's 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.040 going to like talk about forever and ever, because if 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.280 that's how awesome it's going to be, hopefully, or if 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.520 I just if I die by natural causes, I'm living 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.600 to at least one hundred and thirty years old. I know. 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.520 I always told Ashley I was like I even before 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.479 we were together, I was like, I feel like I'm 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.680 gonna die relatively young, which is a horrible thought to have, 0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.920 but I've always been like I dust, I don't know, 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.760 I feel like relatively young, quote unquote, like if I 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.480 make it to my sixties, is that young? 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.840 Yes? Well, yeah, I just judgement by what we just said. 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:09.640 You just said if someone dies before the seventy you're like, 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:10.840 that's a little young. I mean I hope not. I 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.880 hope I live to one hundred and twenty. Yeah, we'll 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:14.560 see different. With kids, I feel like you have like 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.480 more of a reason they want to live longer. But 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:17.960 what how old do you think you're gonna be when 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.120 you die by natural causes? 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:20.280 Ninety two? 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.680 Wow? That's old? Wow? Good for you. You You think very 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:28.240 highly of your I'm very healthy, yes, but you always 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.080 hear these stories like you are healthy, you do take 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.640 care of yourself, You watch what you eat, and you 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.640 make sure you eat healthy stuff. I don't, and I 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.040 still feel like I'm going to double your life. 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.600 Express No, I disagree. Also, my grandpa super healthy, did 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.080 yoga for years, did hot yoga for years, like was 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.640 very active, and he's doing great. Yes, and I feel 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.680 like I'm in the same trajectory as him. 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.719 That's fair. And I've never had an adult in my 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.840 family make it past seventy, so I guess the odds 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:51.640 are stacked against me. 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.240 No, you'll be the first. But maybe just like cut 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.200 back on the poloni and the hot Cheetos and the 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:57.080 spaghettios and the. 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.240 Hot pockets every time I do, every time I eat 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.160 the like ray a lot ment of food that I eat, 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:02.760 and I go get like a blood test done. They're 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.320 always like, you're the healthiest guy we've ever seen. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.880 When's the last time you got a blood test? Like 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:07.680 ten years ago? 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.800 That was about after I broke my leg, so maybe 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.880 four or five years ago, four years ago. But yes, 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.360 I do. I could eat healthier, I suppose, but I've 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.000 gotten way with it for this long. Might as well 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:17.760 just keep it going. 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.560 I mean, now you're older, your metabolism is slowing down, 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.880 and you just like your body can't keep up. 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:23.600 Wow, you call me fat. 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.600 No, I'm not calling you fat. I'm saying, like health wise, 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.760 you can eat this junk when you're young, but now 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:29.200 it's like it's not good for you. 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.040 Okay, fine, fine, I'll start eating lettuce with my bilooney 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.640 sandwich or but yeah, no, it's got to be different 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.280 for you, Jared, because now that you have Dawson and 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.720 the second one on the way, it's like you kind 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.960 of you know, if I die at forty, I would 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.200 feel so bad for Kail and having to be heartbroken 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.200 and a widower. But with a kid, I feel like 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.200 it just kind of complicates things even further. 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.120 Well as a yeah, as a parent, I mean, the 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.440 most the most important thing is I want to be there, 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.600 you know, I want to make sure that he's taken 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:56.200 care of. If I want to teach him life lessons, 0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:01.400 I want to be there to ensure that he can hopefully, 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.680 you know, achieve the most he's able to achieve and 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:05.080 just and be happy. 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:05.520 You know. 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:07.160 I was thinking about that the other day. I think 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.800 the most important thing, like my biggest job with Dawson, 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.400 other than getting him prepared for the world, is I 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:19.080 just want him to be happy. You know, I think, man, 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.920 life is hard, but that's okay. Life is meant to 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.080 be hard. Like the idea that we're actually breathing and 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.120 living is a pretty spectacular thing to think about in general. 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.200 So the idea that life can be hard and it 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.760 hard quote unquote, like we're sitting on a podcast right now, 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.280 how hard could it be, you know, with a roof 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.840 over our head. A lot of people can't say that, 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:42.080 So I think, you know, I really just want him. 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:42.480 To be happy. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.080 That's all I really care about. And that's why I 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.040 want to be here, is because I want to bring 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.440 him happiness. It's hard as a parent right now because 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:56.640 I'm also so aware that he's just I don't know. 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.360 I know people will probably disagree with me. I guess 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.440 it's hard to know how formative these years are. Like, 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.800 are the things that I'm doing for Dawson going to 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:12.239 reflect in any way in the future, you know, I'd 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.839 like to think so yeah, But you know, so now, 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.359 I guess my only job is like I want him 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.480 to be happy, so like reading to him or playing 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.440 with them, or like if he's playing with his toys, like, 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.320 but I also like trying to teach him things, and 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:32.320 and I don't know. I feel like I just sometimes 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.160 I'm like, does it matter? Does it matter if I'm 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.680 disciplining him now? Is that going to make any difference? 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.279 No? I see your point too, because it's like, if 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.359 you look back at your childhood, you don't really start 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.279 remembering things until you're like three or four or five, 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:44.560 or however old you are. 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.680 I don't know, and even that's so young to talk 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.080 about your earliest memories like mine. Maybe I'm just not 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.239 I don't have a good memory, but like I think 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.800 of elementary school as some of my earliest memories, and 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.800 I'm like second and third grade and I'm like, damn, 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.400 I was like five or six or seven at that point, 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.880 and that's the earliest I can remember. 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.400 It's kind of while I'm like, if we have a baby, 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.200 let's just give him to someone for five years, and 0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:06.800 then once he starts getting to the point where you 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.600 remember stuff, then we take him back and then we 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.080 start like doing just you know. 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.360 No, these are the most formative years. They're like little sponges. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.960 Yeah, well that's what that's what Jared is saying. It's like, 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.040 you you do believe that I mean, I'm sure you 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.080 do believe that, Jared, but it's like hard, how much 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.080 of a sponge are they really? And like what exactly 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.880 are they absorbing everything? Oh? 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.200 My first memory is as from two years old? 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.600 Oh yeah, yeah, and what's the memory? 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.880 Oh I hadn't tophalitis, so I was paralyzed, So it 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:38.000 was more trauma memory. Yeah, more trauma than anything. But 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.520 that's my realliest memory. And then I started remember remembering 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:42.160 things after that. 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.080 Are other pictures of you as a paralyzed two year old? 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.080 No, I was in the hospital for a while. 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.319 Yeah, and what's the memory? Just sitting there in the bed. 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.480 I woke up and I couldn't move my body and 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:58.480 I yelled for my mom. Yeah. 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.200 I think it's also different for men and women, and 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.160 I know that's playing gender roles something we shouldn't be doing. 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:08.439 But just from my experience with Ashley and Dawson, I 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:14.680 think I and again maybe it's just like the man 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.279 in me, Like I want to provide for Dawson. I 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:24.000 want to, you know, be there for him and teach 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.960 him lessons and of course like make sure he's happy. 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.040 But like I think Ashley wants to, like, you know, 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.160 and I love cuddling with him too, but like the 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:38.440 important thing for her is just like you know, showering 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.960 him with love and affection, and like now is that 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.879 this is the time to do that? You know, these 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.839 are the moments where he's gonna like just be such 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:55.640 a mushball. And as much as I enjoy that, I 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.560 know Ashley enjoys that more so. I guess maybe as 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.840 a dad. And I feel like a lot of dads 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.080 go through this. Like once I'm able to like really 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.319 communicate with him and talk to him and and kind 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.200 of hope, you know, developed the man that he will 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.239 like one day become, That's what I'm most excited about. 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:13.920 I don't know. 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.200 Yeah, I think all of that leads to their personality, 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.520 leads to how they'll be a friend a partner. Like 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.319 starts starts right when they get them out of the womb. 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.759 Yeah, I guess, so so hard to say. I mean, 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.040 there's probably some research done on it, but who knows 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:28.479 for sure? 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:30.920 I think I think it's pretty No. 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.719 I just watched or I just read this thing yesterday 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.520 about how Nicholas Cage says that his early memory is 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.759 being in the womb. What Yeah, no. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.640 Way, that's such bullshoun believe that man for one second 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.120 if he said that, I. 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.239 Don't believe m either, But the fact that he's saying it, like, 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.239 you know, maybe there's something something that. 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.920 No way, no chance, no chance. But they're also like 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.880 we do remember it in like physical terms, like fetal 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.080 position is comforting for us because we were in it 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.479 that position for so long, right, right, right, So maybe 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.359 we don't have memories from being in the womb, but 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:05.840 our body remembers. 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.600 It, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense. 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.560 Yeah, it is scientifically impossible to remember events before your 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.880 brain is sufficiently developed to hold onto such memories. 0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.840 When does it sufficient? This is a big. 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.239 Ass article, But memories are weird too. I read a 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.560 whole book on memories, and it's hard to decipher what 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.520 is a memory and what was told to you. 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.359 Right. That's why I was asking if you had any 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.160 pictures of you in the hospital, because a lot of 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:37.000 times too, we'll see like polaroids of our childhood and 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:40.279 we'll just know that we'll remember the polaroid more than 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.879 we'd remember the moment, and so we like register that 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.719 picture as a memory. Like when I was a kid, 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.879 we lived in a bus for three years. I don't 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.080 really remember much. I do kind of remember some things, 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.279 but I remember like climbing on the roof. Yes, But 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.400 then we also like in our family photo album when 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:56.719 I was a kid, when I remember looking at it, 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.840 there was pictures of us climbing on the roof, and 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.440 I'm like, do I actually remember it climbing on the 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.400 roof or do I just remember seeing the picture of 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.400 me climbing on the roof and then registering it as 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:04.880 a memory. 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.960 It's great. It's crazy how they can be manipulated so 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.720 easily too. It's kind of scary our memories. 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.520 Oh, the memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of the point 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.160 I guess is like who knows what's real and what's 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.279 not real with memories. Your brain's a weird thing. 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It's crazy to me how 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.640 so many of the awards given out were from artists 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.400 that are not they're kind of making new music now, 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:52.840 but they were just big in the nineties and the 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.000 two thousands, Like the Nostalgia Factory, I feel like was 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.240 so important in that and it kind of made me realize, 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.719 like there's not that many great current artists, like a 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.080 lot of good artists that we love to listen to 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.120 and everything, but not maybe as big of icons as 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:07.080 there were back then. 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.040 I feel like gen Z is like craving how we 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:11.000 grew up, you know. 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.120 And it's funny because I feel like we were craving 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:14.960 how the eighties and the nineties grew up. Like we 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.800 didn't get the Beatles or the Rolling Stones or anything 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.080 like that, like the huge, huge bands. We had a 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.440 couple big ones, but nothing like as big as those bands. Yeah, 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:24.920 I don't know. 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.879 Well, with the exception of Taylor obviously, I think she's 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.320 the one exceptionion beyond, but yeah, and Beyonce, I think 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:39.080 I just I think Taylor and Beyonce is an icon 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.280 and she's incredible and one of the most powerful people 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.040 in the world. I just think what Taylor has done 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.040 over the past two years has put her on a 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.360 level that I don't think I've. 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.920 Ever seen in my lifetime. 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.839 Yeah, she is just so I mean, I've never I 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.520 just I can't believe how popular she is. 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.279 I also think that Taylor has had so much bad 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.840 PR that Beyonce hasn't necessarily had to deal with in 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.480 the same way, like starting with the VMAs and Kanye, 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.600 and I think Taylor has used that bad PR to 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.680 our advantage and has made her more popular. 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.719 I guess I just hate that our generation is being 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.360 defined by Taylor Swift versus like the our parents' generation 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.840 defined by the Beatles and like these actual I'm not 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.080 saying Taylor Shift isn't talented. She is, absolutely, but it 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.600 just it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like Taylor 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.719 Swift is on the same plane as someone like the 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.640 as a group like the Beatles. And maybe it's only 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.000 because she's still in the middle of her career and 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.239 the Beatles' career is, you know, long and gone. But 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.319 I don't know if an artist is going to define 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.879 a generation, I want it to be someone that I 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.279 really enjoy listening to, and it's not necessarily Taylor Swift. 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.319 So maybe it's just like a selfish you don't get 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:48.680 to decide. 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.160 That's what I'm saying. Maybe it's a bit selfish of 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.200 me to want that, but that's just kind of where 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:56.000 I'm at right now. Like, I don't know, I'm not 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:57.600 even a big fan of the Beatles honestly too. Like 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.440 I've tried listening to all their albums and I'm like, 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.000 they're but I don't really see the appeal so much. 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.759 So I guess I probably would be saying the same 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.239 thing about the Beatles if this was the nineties, you know, 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.799 or the eighties or whatever. I would probably still be 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:11.719 grumping about it a little bit. Yeah. 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.279 I also think the crazed fan base was like the 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.000 only way to see them is like to go and 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.600 physically see them and stock them. Now we have access 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.200 to Taylor and any celebrity we want with social media, 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:22.400 you know. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:27.359 And I also think the pool was just smaller as 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.720 technology has grown and we've become more connected than ever. 0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.879 I don't think it's even really that possible. That's why 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.040 I think Taylor is kind of an anomaly. The idea 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:37.759 that she's been able to do, which she's done in 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.920 this day and age where there is so many artists 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.040 and there are so many songs to get your hands on. 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.080 I mean, before the only way to listen to music 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.239 was on the radio or you had to actually go 0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:55.040 buy their cassette or CD. Now and then of course 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.160 like LimeWire came, and then you were able to download 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.000 music on your phone. And now you have Apple Music 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:00.680 and you have Spotify, and you have all these things, 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.200 like if we go on our phone, we have access 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.520 to millions of songs. And so I think maybe that's 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:09.640 another reason why there's really no like that many, you know, 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.960 if you want to compare to our generation, like big, big, 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:17.919 massive musicians anymore, just because there's so many that it's 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.439 just like hard to there's really nobody that takes the cake. 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.640 Yeah, it's like spreading us. It's spreading us way more 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:24.520 thin than they were back then. 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.880 I guess, dude, even think of Taylor Swift, like you 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.319 think of Taylor or Beyonce. I mean, like Beyonce right 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.239 would be considered an icon today, I would think. So, 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.800 I mean, when did she hit the scene mid nineties, 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.799 We're talking thirty years ago, Like Taylor Swift even she 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.160 started really hitting the scene in the late two thousands, 0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.840 so you're talking about fifteen years ago. So like the 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:49.600 most iconic musicians of today still were. You know, they 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.360 came out fifteen twenty years ago. So it's like, what 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.680 is the most recent massive musician. I don't even know. 0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:59.359 I don't even know that's come out over the past 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.000 few years. I couldn't even name one. 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.239 Zach Bryan, Jelly Roll, Olivia Rodrigoz, Olivia. 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.360 Rodrigo, Tate McCrae. I just looked at that. Beyonce is 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.200 only forty two years old. I thought she was older 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:09.440 than that. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.640 For some reason, Beyonce's forty two, thirty eight or something. 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.080 Dude, I thought she was like, yeah, close. 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.799 To fifty forty two. She looks so good, I thought. 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.520 I guess the reason I think that is because jay 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.440 Z is fifty four, and I thought they were closer 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.800 in age. So jay Z is twelve years older than Beyonce. 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.479 But do you think who's bigger, Taylor Swift or Beyonce Jared. 0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.400 I don't think it's a competition, Taylor, I don't. I 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.600 just think I think if you would have asked me 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.880 two years ago, it'd have been like, that's tough. But 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.680 I just think what it's kind of like I compare 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.240 because obviously, you know, Taylor is such a topic conversation. 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.560 I compare the run that she's had over the past 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.400 couple of years to the second run that Brady had, 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.600 because if Brady retired before twenty fourteen, he would have 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.000 gone down, you know, as one of, you know, one 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:59.120 of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, top five, but 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.880 then all of a sudden, he went on this second 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.480 half run where he won four more super Bowls and it. 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.319 Was like, oh wow, he is the greatest of all time. 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.359 And I think that Taylor is in that run right now, 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.279 where like this Error's Tour, like what happened last year 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:16.680 with that Errors Tour is just like, dude, like did 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.000 who even knew Beyonce was on tour the same time? 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.279 You know, like I'm sorry, but like it was just 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:26.280 like it was Taylor, Taylor, Taylor and Beyonce is huge 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.080 and she's iconic and she's incredible. But I just think 0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.200 that like right now, in the world we live in, 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.719 it's like Taylor's number one and everybody's flying for number two. 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:35.560 That's what I think. 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.319 I just looked up a couple of comparative stats here, 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:42.600 So Taylor Swift has won what is it, four albums 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.560 of the year, which is the most all time. But 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.120 Beyonce has won thirty two Grammys overall, which is the 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.600 most of all time. That's pretty good. 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.440 But I think they were going to the same arenas, 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.799 the same show during their tour, Like, I think it's 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:54.600 pretty equivalent. 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.960 But then Swift has a total of seventy five million 0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.600 albums sold, but Beyonce only has a tour of forty 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.759 two million albums sold, So by that metric, Swift is 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:03.400 almost double. 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.040 But also I don't know if that's counting, Like, Taylor 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.440 re recorded all of her albums, so are you counting 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:09.320 that a second time. 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.040 I'm not counting anything. I'm just reading. 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.360 I'm just wondering, you know, the stats, Like I'm wondering. 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.000 Yeah, yeah, And I totally like stats are a huge 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:21.560 factor in this argument, obviously, you know, but I think 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:27.839 I'm arguing for stats and also the influence that this 0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:32.680 person has over the population and in the pop culture sense. 0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:37.120 And it's just like I just think Taylor has tapped 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.239 into something that I mean, I haven't really seen. 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:44.600 It's interesting since like Michael Jackson. Yeah, so I just 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.879 looked up the top selling artists of all time. They're 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.640 not even on the list either of them, but one 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.120 one performer is that's still performing now. Top ten are Beatles, 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:58.560 Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Elton John, Queen, Madonna, led Zeppelin, 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.720 and then Rihanna at nine Wow, and then Pink Floyd 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.319 at ten. Rihanna, Yeah, which I wouldn't have suspected either, 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.480 but maybe because she's kind of stepped away a little bit recently. 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.560 Well you do you think of Taylor and Beyonce as 0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.080 number one in one or one and two however you 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.360 want to define it, And I think if Rihanna is 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.160 like in the tens, yeah. 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:20.800 She's top ten overall, triple what Pink Floyd has sold 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:24.080 in terms of certified units, I don't know what that is, 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.120 but yeah, very interesting. Rihanna is the only person on 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:32.120 this list to have released an album. Her first release 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.840 was inn O five and everyone else has released the 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.360 near next closest one was nineteen eighty three. So she's 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.560 I mean by that metric, she's damn over everything. 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:39.719 Man. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.520 We got to get Rihanna in on this conversation, obviously. 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.520 Have you guys ever made a playlist for a significant 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.120 other or like for you know, someone that you had 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.960 a crush on Oh yeah. 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:53.959 I feel like I remember doing little CDs like burning CDs. Yeah, 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:55.160 but I don't know if I ever gave it to 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.560 anyone and just did it for myself. 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.880 You love yourself, that's why. Yes, yes I did once. 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:03.880 I definitely name drop songs. I don't know if I've 0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.640 made a playlist, but like I definitely have been, like 0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.160 you know, you know, this song is just really impactful 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:09.440 for me. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:11.960 Listen to this song on repeat. 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.160 That's so crazy that the kids will never know. They'll 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.120 just make playlists on Spotify. They'll never know. Burning CDs, yeah, 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:18.040 and how intimate it. 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.200 Was, How intimate it was, And then you get the 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.120 dvdrws that you can rewrite over, so you like have 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:24.759 one CD even though it was like thirty bucks, you 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:26.439 could like rewrite it with a bunch of different songs 0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.959 whenever you wanted. Do you remember that? No? No, because 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.560 you know you burn a CD, it's burned forever and 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:33.520 that's just the CD. Now. 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:35.879 Maybe I did have those because I think I would 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:36.879 keep burning over them. 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.359 Yeah, So dvdrws were the expensive ones that you could 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.440 reburn and then you put it in your walkman and 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.040 it skips or like you get sick of a song, 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:47.520 so you have to skip it every time it comes up. Yeah, 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.120 good days, Good days. 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.600 It's crazy too that we had iPods and like you 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.359 only had what music you put on it. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.799 Right, did you guys have like the visor on your 0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:00.960 car with the sleeve or like this CD sleeve on 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.240 your car visor or the console. 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:04.880 I had the console with all of the cases. 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.560 Oh yeah, I remember we when I was a kid, 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.800 we had like we would listen to music at dinner. 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:13.239 We would like put anya on her you know, some 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.279 sort of like dinner non lyrical music. And we had 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.960 this nice big stereo system that had like a CD 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.120 changer in it, and that was like the revolutionary technology 0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:22.640 at the time, so you could put like thirty CDs 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.600 in it and then just pick whichever CD you wanted 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.080 to play from the same player. The guys are rich, Yeah, 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:32.800 we were really Yeah. Yeah, we lived good for a 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.440 couple of years there, but then it all went downhill 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.040 real fast, like off a cliff. I guess you could say. 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:39.800 That's another thing too, Jared, I want to wanted to 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:41.880 ask about I don't know, you're you're upbringing. He was 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.440 like kind of middle class, right, lower middle class. 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.960 Ah, why don't know what the definition of lower middle classes? 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:54.160 I mean we had my dad worked. My mom did not. 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.200 I mean she would waitress every once in a while. 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.319 But and then my dad, you. 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.799 Know, he's he was a I mean, I don't want 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.400 to say just a prison guard, like he was a 0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:06.600 captain of the ACI. But yeah, I mean we My 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:10.040 house's modest house I grew up in with four people, 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:14.239 which is insanity. My poor parents. I don't know, like 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:15.920 a thousand square feet I guess maybe a little less, 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:16.520 so that's tiny. 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.200 Yeah, so i'd say middle class to lower middle class, right, 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:21.279 and so now you and Ashley owner position where you're 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.400 upper middle class. I would say to give that to Dawson. 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.600 It's a pretty cool experience. My brother is kind of 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.799 the same way. You know, his upbringing was middle class 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.960 to lower middle class, with spurts of some money throughout, 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.719 but not significant. And now him and his wife are 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:39.200 doing really well. So he's like, I can't wait to 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.360 give my daughter everything that I wasn't able to have 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.440 when I was a kid. I think that's pretty cool too, Yeah, 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:44.960 it is. 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:50.200 I also don't want I want him to know the 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.040 value in. 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.359 Earning your money That's the tough thing about it too. 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.239 It's like, how do you instill that? Because you want 0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:57.640 to give them everything that they ever asked for, but 0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.280 at the same time, you want to instill good values 0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:00.440 and work ethic. 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.959 I guess yeah, I mean, I don't get me wrong, 0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.600 we already actually, and I have many conversations about, you know, 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.920 his college fund or safety net or insurance money or 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.120 things of that nature to make sure that Dawson is fine. 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.359 But yeah, I I you know, there's there's a there's 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.319 a big part of me that really wants him to 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.480 you know, I'm just I'm such a guy, like I 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:23.080 want him to. 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.319 Earn his weight through this world. You know, if his 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.840 hands aren't callous by the time he's entering elementary school, 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.560 you're blowing it. Hey, right, if Ashley started smoking cigarettes, 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:35.839 what would your reaction be. I mean, I wouldn't like it, Okay, Yeah, 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.760 I would tell her to stop. 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.200 What if she had of her mind? What if she 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.200 didn't stop? I would not want to be with someone 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.440 who smoked all the time. Are you talking about like 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:43.839 smoking a packa day or like. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.560 One packa day? Wow? 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:47.799 Why why are you bringing this up? Are you are 0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:49.560 you smoking now, No, no, no, I'm not. 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:51.960 I did say randomly, like a month ago, I was like, 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.880 I kind of want to get into smoking cigarettes, and 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:55.799 like not serious, but I was just like, yeah, i'd 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.960 be cool, happy to get into. Obviously would never do it. 0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.680 But Caylen and I were at dinner with a bunch 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:01.560 of friends the other night, you know, we were all, 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:03.400 you know, a little drunk, I guess, and I was like, 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.160 the subject of smoking cigarettes came up, and I was like, killing, 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:07.920 if you started smoking cigarettes, I think I'd probably ask 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:08.520 for a divorce. 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.759 I never would. And also he for him to bring 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.000 up two weeks ago and say I think I want 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.040 to start smoking cigarettes. But I know deed and I 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.400 know how to react with him, so I just didn't respond. 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:20.960 Yeah, I think I was just looking for a reaction. 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:22.600 Yeah. 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.279 But then I woke up the next day I killed him. 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:25.600 The next day. I was like, do you remember talking 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.759 about getting divorced me last night? I was like, no, 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.080 what are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, you 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:30.800 said if I started smoking cigarettes, he divorced me. I 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.839 was like, oh, that's different. I stand by that. 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean I can tell that's charlest me 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.160 man My dad smoked when I was a kid, and like, 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:41.640 you walk into a room and it's. 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.360 Like, oh, yeah, he's just didn't headache. 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:44.799 You're get in his car or something, and it just 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.759 has that smell. My dad smoked cigarettes when I was 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.319 a kid too. He would uh he. So I asked 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:52.919 my mom about it, and I was like, Mom, what's 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.640 dad doing. She's like, Oh, he's smoking a cigarette. If 0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.200 you ever see him smoking a cigarette, you're allowed punch 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.520 him as hard as you can. And so until I 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.640 was like a teenager, I would walk up to my dad, 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:03.440 see him smoking a cigarette, just give him the biggest 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:04.560 dead arm I possibly could. 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:05.399 And he was fine. 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.040 He was like, Oh, I guess if that's what it 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.720 takes to let me keep smoking cigarette. Right. I always 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:14.000 thought that was kind of funny, But I guess that's 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.759 probably gonna do it for this week's episode. Right, unless 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.400 there's anything else you guys want to touch on, we 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.520 hit it all talking about memory. I don't even remember 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.719 what we talked about today, so hopefully you guys enjoyed it. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.080 Pop culture, Easter, memories. 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:29.000 Cigarettes, cigarettes, all good things. Alrighty, you guys, that's gonna 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.600 do it for this week's episode of Suckers Jared Klin 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:33.560 love you be shooted to you in next week, where 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.160 maybe we suck just a little bit less