1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: You know so the first time I followed, I like 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Ted NuGen as my opening act. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: I like that. 4 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: I've never had that before. They feel very special. Eric 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Bollinger Brother Brother Nugent. Eric, thank you so much, Historic Day. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for doing the handover all yours very historic day 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: at the White House. 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Brian Glen's gone join us shortly. What I want to do. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: We have a cold open to commemorate this day and 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: everything it stands for. It's it's been a long time 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: getting here, folks. 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Let's go in litter it. 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: The budget plan I submit to you one February eighth 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: will realize major savings by dismantling the Departments of Energy 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: and Education and by eliminating ineffective subsidies for business. We 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: will continue to redirect our resources to our two highest 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: budget priorities, a strong national defense to keep America free 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: and at peace, and a reliable safety net of social 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: programs for those who have contributed and those who are 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: in need. 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: Education historic was a state and local a state and 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: local subject. And I think that what we've seen is 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: since we've we spent about one hundred billion dollars in 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: the Department of Education each year, and that's been going 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: on since nineteen eighty. I'm not sure. Sure we're better 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: off than we were before. See the one thing you 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 4: bunch that I would eliminate most of that, right, Well, 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: what I would do is I would have it spend 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: at the state and local level. 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it up there at all. 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: I'd leave it. 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: I'd leave it at home, so you'd spend the money. 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: You might still spend it in your state government. But education, 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: even now, ninety ninety five percent of your education dollars 35 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: are stay and local. That one hundred billion gets rolled 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: around in a big bureaucracy up there. They send rules 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: down that don't help education, They hinder renovation. I would 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 4: cut them out of the loop. I don't think you'd 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: notice if the whole department we're going tomorrow. We might 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: have a disagreement on that. 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 6: No, I know you said you wanted to abolish the 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 6: Department of Education. Do you plan to or would you know? 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 7: What would you do with it? It's stuck around. 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 8: We don't need a Department of Education. It has some 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 8: important functions, for example, to student loan programs, the PELGRAMT. 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: We could transfer that to Treasury. 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Other departments can run it. 48 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 8: My problem with the Department of Education is the federal 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 8: government was never intended to be involved in K through 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 8: twelve education. It was a limited government designed for the 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 8: limited and specific enumerated purposes. K through twelve belongs at 52 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 8: the local level because parents have much more influence over 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 8: a school board or over a state legislature than they 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 8: will ever have over Congress or over unelected bureaucrats sitting 55 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 8: in a massive building in Washington, d C. 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: This is not about ideology. 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 8: This is about the practical reality that why do we 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 8: have a Department of Education when the federal government really 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 8: has no role to play in K through twelve education. 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: In the days that follow, I will instruct the federal 61 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: Department of Education, which should be abolished. 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 9: Now. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 10: No modern American president has tried to do what Donald 64 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 10: Trump is doing today, that is, eliminate an entire cabinet 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 10: level department by FIAT, and technically he cannot do it. 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 10: Trump does not actually have the power to turn the 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 10: lights off at the Department of Education. That can only 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 10: be done by an Act of Congress, and it would 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 10: need sixty votes in the Senate to overcome any filibuster. 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 10: But the Trump administration, as they put it today, will 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 10: do everything but close the Doe Angelo. 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 7: There's a chapter on. 73 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 10: The Department of Education in Project twenty twenty five that is. 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 7: Not news to you. You have read through that document. 75 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 10: You tried to warn people that this was the playbook 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 10: they were going to run. The first line of that reads, 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 10: federal education policies should be limited, and ultimately the Federal 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 10: Department of Education should be eliminated. The administration can't actually 79 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 10: eliminate it, as you know, as anyone who sort of 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 10: understands the basic mechanisms of this understand what is it 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 10: they are trying to win here a symbolic victory. 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 11: No, it wants something mores firtter than that, I mean, 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 11: And they've sort of been pretty transparent about it, especially 84 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 11: in the last few months. They see the Department of 85 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 11: Education more broadly, the education system as sort of indoctrinating 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 11: people young people right at the beginning that it's basically 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 11: creating a whole pipeline of you know, liberal indoctrination. And 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 11: you know, they've been pushing back at that on the edges. 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 11: You've seen this pop up at the states where you 90 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 11: know they're messing with the curriculum, they're. 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 7: Replacing some books with you know, prager, you you know 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 7: it's you've seen it. 93 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 11: But what they're really trying to do here is not 94 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 11: just some you know, very significant administrative bureaucratic reform. No, 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 11: they're trying to get rid of the functions that the 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 11: Department of Education provides. And that is thirty percent of 97 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 11: it is the Title one which is for low income people. 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 11: So that is designed to punish the school districts that 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 11: have the incomes. That's one hundred and eighty thousand teachers 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 11: bam right there that rely extensively or exclusively on Title 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 11: one funding that they want to get rid of. And 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 11: another part of it, and this is sort of camp 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 11: so far in the discussion is through the grant making 104 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 11: programs for universities and loans. Either reduce that and the 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 11: stuff that you can't reduce, privatize that. 106 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 7: But this is about culture change. 107 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 11: It is about eliminating and reducing and educated populace. 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 7: And to the extent that you are keeping it in 109 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 7: place by getting it back to the States. We know 110 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 7: what that means. It means more power for. 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 11: The already dominant right ring narrative that we're dealing with today. 112 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 5: We take a very historic action that was forty five 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: years in the making. In a few moments, I will 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: sign an executive order to begin eliminating the federal Department 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: of Education once and for all. 116 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: And it sounds strange, doesn't it. Department of Education. We're 117 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: going to eliminate it. 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: And everybody knows it's right, and the Democrats know it's right, 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 5: and I hope they're going to be voting for it 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: because ultimately it may come before them, but everybody knows 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: it's right. And we have to get our children educated. 122 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 9: We're we're not doing well. 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 5: With the with the world of education in this country, 124 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: and we haven't for a long time. 125 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 7: It was really lucky. 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 12: I said, doctument that you have very good for the country. 127 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 13: And I said that you said, safe guy. 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: I don't know I was anybody superstitions wrong or a 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 5: superstition that she was that same? 130 00:06:37,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 14: Okay, this is the primal scream of a dying regime. 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval. 132 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 13: On these people. You've not got a free shot. 133 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: All these networks lying about the people. The people have 134 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: had a belly. 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 15: Full of it. 136 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you 137 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: tried to do everything in the world. 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: To stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. 140 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 9: And where do people like that go to share the 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 9: big line? 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 7: Mega media? 143 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 15: I wish in my soul, I wish that any. 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: my task and what is my purpose? If that answer 146 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: is to save my country, this country. 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 9: Will be saved. 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Wor use your host, Stephen Kman. It's Thursday, twenty March, 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, historic day. Market 150 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: down your book, the day that Donald John Trump signed 151 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: an executive order that started the process of shutting down 152 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: the Department of Education. Is something as you saw at 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the beginning, that people have tried to do since Ronald 154 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Reagan and Ronald Reagan tried it, but done under president 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: or at least we start the journey. I believe by 156 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the time the warm's over at the late afternoon or 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: early evening show that someone will go in to federal court. 158 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: One of these lefties are going to federal court, you know, 159 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: venue shopping to try to sue the administration to stop. 160 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: This and have a nationwide toro. So we'll see that. 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Mike Dave is going to be here at five thirty 162 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: with an update on the judicial coup. 163 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: I want to go to Brian Glenn. 164 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Brian, I tell you Angelo Carrus Carason, the president of 165 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Media Matters, and you know he's done a good job 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: of rating the ship over there. They're one of the 167 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: marketing departments of the war Room. I could just play 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: that clip over and I mean, he's putting you and 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: me at a business brother, there's no need for us. 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Kind of he kind of nailed it exactly what the 171 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: problem with the education system, the problem we have with it. 172 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Tell me you were there today. I was a little 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: surprised if President had take any questions, but it was 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: quite dramatic signing with the children back signing and holding 175 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: up tell us put us in the room. 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 15: Well, he's that TV producer. He is an incredible TV producer. 177 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 15: As far as the imaging goes, we had an idea 178 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 15: that it would look similar to that of having the 179 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 15: kids behind him and obviously governors out in the audience, 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 15: Governor Landry Louisiana DeSantis, Governor Greg Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 15: among others. 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 9: Ken Paxton there. 183 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 15: So it was kind of the who's who in Republican 184 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 15: governors and lawmakers, and of course he had Virginia Fox 185 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 15: and some others in the crowd as well. But just 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 15: what a moment that was and came out, delivered a 187 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 15: kind of an opening statement about you know, seven eight 188 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 15: minutes long, and then sat down and used that pen 189 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 15: he used the other day to sign this thing in order. 190 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 15: And of course your cold open is brilliant. You know, 191 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 15: we don't even need talent anymore. Just put a you know, 192 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 15: a forty five minute cold open together and you can 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 15: just fire both of us and just let that roll. 194 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 15: That's what you need to do. Now that's good television, Steve, 195 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 15: that's good television. But yeah, what a moment to see 196 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 15: this thing finally get inked. And of course it does 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 15: take Congress and send it to really finalize this. And 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 15: of course Lennon mc mahon going to put herself out 199 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 15: of a job, but I think she's okay with that. 200 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: Well, it takes Congress and then maybe to finalize it, 201 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: but there's a lot you can do. Remember, this is 202 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: essentially a money laundering operation from taxpayers to the credential 203 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: class and colleges. And President Trump he already cut off 204 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: his alma mater. I think you're going to be shocked 205 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: at how many tens of banions, not one hundreds of 206 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: bions is going to be shut off immediately, Brian Glenn, 207 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts. 208 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great point. 209 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 15: My question to him would have been, as a very 210 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 15: successful business owner and a business developer, was this the 211 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 15: worst ROI and American history? Three trillion dollars to only 212 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 15: result to the bottom of the barrel? And if this 213 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 15: was a business, you'd have an f by the Better 214 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 15: Business Bureau and you might be out of business as already. 215 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 9: But you know, he's reshaping education. 216 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 15: He's really putting in a priority, and he knows the 217 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 15: future of this country not only lace in the office 218 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 15: behind us with policies, but also lies with the kids 219 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 15: right now in school, making sure we're got the best 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 15: of the best in the world to take over these 221 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 15: jobs that are coming. So just a just a great 222 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 15: day here at the White House and very proud to 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 15: be a part of the cover. 224 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 9: Steve, Brian, you. 225 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Talked about the president producing, He's both producing or starring. 226 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: I think Susie Wilds maybe the director. Trump's the executive producer, 227 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: but he's also the star I want to ask you 228 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: because I think today was very I think it's very 229 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: everything's information warfare, and Trump understands this. My theory the 230 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: case is the reason he didn't take questions. He would 231 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: have people like you ask reasonable, smart questions that would 232 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: have a deeper answer. You get a couple of snarky 233 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: but I think he just wanted this to be just 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: so raw, with the kids signing, holding it up and 235 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: let and basically the Rachel Maddow and the people at 236 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: MSNBC to night in prime time suck on that right, 237 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: No commentary, no talk afterwards, no Brian Glenn sweeed, just baby, 238 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: it's yours. You deal with it because their heads are 239 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: already blowing up. 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, no, you're right, and you know that you'd have 241 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 15: some reporter talk about Gaza or talk about some unrelated 242 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 15: subject which he does not like to address at something 243 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 15: like this. 244 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 9: He would even tell you it's inappropriate. 245 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 15: For that question right now, I don't I'm glad he 246 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 15: didn't take questions, and I love it as he held 247 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 15: up the EO and it's just like you know here 248 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 15: it is, you know, in your face. And of course 249 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 15: I can't wait to see the coverage of that tonight 250 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 15: on the other stations and the networks that a lot 251 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 15: of our audience does it watch, but unfortunately we watch 252 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 15: it for them, Steve, so that they don't have to 253 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 15: and you bring it to them tomorrow. 254 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 9: On the war. 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Room, Brian, can you hang on? And I want to 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: hold you through the break. I've got some other questions. 257 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: There's so much going on, fighting on so many fronts. 258 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Mike Davis is going to be with us at five 259 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: point thirty. We're going to talk about new updates in 260 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: what Brian Glenna think is called a judicial coup a'ta 261 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: an insurrection to a coupd a'ta. Because now they're trying 262 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: to drive Trump I think from office. 263 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: That's whether this impeachment so important. 264 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Folks. They're going to come in hard on the Department 265 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: of Education. They're not going to back off anything. These 266 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: people are all gas no break right now, just like 267 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: we are. I think that means it's going to be 268 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: a collision. Neither side is prepared to compromise because the 269 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: fate of the republic hangs in the balance. The unitary 270 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: executive theory, that's the idea, and you're seeing the concept 271 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: played out thought through by Project twenty twenty five, but 272 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: also others the American First Policy Institute by Secretary of 273 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: Agriculture Brooke Rollins, the American First the Law Institute from 274 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller. This was 275 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: also all done work by Mark Paeletta Jeff clark Over at. 276 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: CI Center for Renewing America. 277 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: With the great russ Vote in charge many many years, 278 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: people work through this, every detail of it. The judicial insurrection, 279 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: I think is getting ready for a collision course with 280 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: reality as the Trump Movement, the MAGA movement, and President 281 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Donald John Trump, the forty seventh of the President. I 282 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: say it does not double down. He triples down. He 283 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: took a pen out today and eradicated the Department of Education. 284 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Suck on that you're Stephen came back. Brian glenn our 285 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: own Brian glenn is at the White House. Brian, I 286 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: know you get a bounce. I just want your thoughts. 287 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I know today's historic day. We've been so focused on 288 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: the Department of Education, but everything else that's going on. 289 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Every time President Trump takes an executive action, every time 290 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: President Trump resigns an executive order, virtually immediately. The only 291 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: thing that Democrats have going for him is to jump 292 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: right in, to go to federal court and try to 293 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: slow things down. Remember, to delay is to deny, and 294 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: that is your strategy, thoughts, Brian Glenn before you take off. 295 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 9: Absolutely, that's what they do. They head to the courts. 296 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 15: But the good news is, as far as the public opinion, 297 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 15: the court of public opinions, some of the things they're 298 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 15: standing for and some of the things they're resisting is 299 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 15: they're not winning. So they're not winning on the public 300 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 15: court of opinion. And I think when it's all said 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 15: and done, Steve, they're not going to win in the courts. 302 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 15: We cannot allow with the equivalency of your local life 303 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 15: librarian controlling what the state does are even what the 304 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 15: city does in that region. So I think this is 305 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 15: all going to get It might go through the courts, 306 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 15: but the Republicans are prepared Stephen Miller has been very 307 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 15: vocal about that as well. 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 9: Prepared to win. 309 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 15: But right now, let the Democrats stand for open borders, 310 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 15: letting you know, murders and criminals roam the streets, and 311 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 15: also be against and actually and encourage some of the 312 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 15: violence we've seen towards people even own a tesla if 313 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 15: that's what they stand for, Steve, let them go. We 314 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 15: stand for everything else. And of course, just another historic 315 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 15: day here at the White House. And we'll be back 316 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 15: here tomorrow morning on American sunrise. And of course I'll 317 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 15: see you back here tomorrow, perhaps on war. And we'll 318 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 15: do this one more time, Steve, one. 319 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: More time, Brian, real quickly, is I know that the 320 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: FBI is looking into Tesla and they're also looking at swatting. 321 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Is the President Are you hearing anything from the staff 322 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: about the huge protest at Trump Tower, the violence around 323 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: the country against MAGA, Republicans, etc. Is the White House 324 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: now start to become aware of this, that this violence 325 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: of the Democrats escalate. 326 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, very very well, I think earlier Pam BONDI actually 327 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 15: they foul charges against a couple of individuals in charge 328 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 15: of these Molotel cocktails thrown at dealerships to burn cars. 329 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 15: They will be charged and I think it's a minimum 330 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 15: of five years. They're not playing around here. Five years 331 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 15: to twenty years, depending on what they're ultimately charged with 332 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 15: and found guilty of. But these individuals are taken very 333 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 15: seriously that I can play around this cannot get out 334 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 15: of control like the Summer of love that we saw 335 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 15: in twenty twenty where they righted across this country, burning 336 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 15: down cities, looting businesses. 337 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 9: We cannot allow that to happen. 338 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 15: And then you have people on late night TV actually 339 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 15: encouraging and almost laughing at the notion of Tesla dealers 340 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 15: being you know, victimized and really attacked just for driving 341 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 15: their v vehicle. So I like that Pam Bondi in 342 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 15: this Trump administration is getting out in front of this 343 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 15: and letting these people know if you burn it down 344 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 15: a dealership and you burn a car, you vanalyze someone 345 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 15: that is considered domestic terrorism and we're going to throw 346 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 15: the book at you and make sure that you pay 347 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 15: the price for that. 348 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 9: So it's good that we're getting out in front of this. 349 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Steve Brian, what is your social media so folks can 350 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: follow you? 351 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 15: Wonderful You can follow follow me at Brian Glenn TV. 352 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 15: Across the board, you can find me at Brian Ontrue 353 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 15: Social and as always, Steve, it's a pleasure to come 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 15: on the show. 355 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 9: And thanks to the war Room posse. 356 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 15: I think we're all with make we're moving the needle 357 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 15: here at the White House and want to think everybody 358 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 15: the needle, watching and putting your moving the needle, moving. 359 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: The change too. 360 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: Brian Glenn, thank you so much for the White House. 361 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: We're going to go back and think we got a 362 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: special guests going to join us in a moment. I 363 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: want to play this. I want to replay Alisha Menendez 364 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: on MSBC and with Media Matters President, because he sums 365 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: it up perfectly exactly what the cases is going to 366 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: play it. 367 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 9: Angela. 368 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 10: There's a chapter on the Department of Education in Project 369 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 10: twenty twenty five that is. 370 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 7: Not news to you. You have read through that document. 371 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 10: You tried to warn people that this was the playbook 372 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 10: they were going to run. The first line of that reads, 373 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 10: federal education policy should be limited and ultimately the Federal 374 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 10: Department of Education should be eliminated. The administration can't actually 375 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 10: eliminate it, as you know, as anyone who sort of 376 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 10: understands the basic mechanisms of this understand, what is it 377 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 10: they are trying to win? 378 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 7: Hear a symbolic victory. 379 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 11: No, they want something much bigger than that, I mean, 380 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 11: and they've sort of been pretty transparent about it, especially in. 381 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: The last few months. 382 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 11: They see the Department of Education and more broadly the 383 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 11: education system as sort of indoctrinating people young people. 384 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: Right at the beginning that it's basically. 385 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 11: Creating a whole pipeline of liberal indoctrination. 386 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: And you know they've been pushing back at that on 387 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 7: the edges. 388 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 11: You've seen this pop up the states where you know, 389 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 11: they're messing with the curriculum, they're replacing some books with 390 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 11: you know. 391 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 7: Prager, you you know, you've seen it. 392 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 11: But what they're really trying to do here is not 393 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 11: just some you know, very significant administrative bureaucratic reform. No, 394 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 11: they're trying to get rid of the functions that the 395 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 11: Department of Education provides, and that is thirty percent of 396 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 11: it is to Title one. 397 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 7: Which is for low income people. 398 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 11: So that is designed to punish the school districts that 399 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 11: have low incomes. That's one hundred and eighty thousand teachers 400 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 11: bam right there that rely extensively or exclusively on. 401 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 7: Title one funding that they want to get rid of. 402 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 11: And another part of it, and this is sort of 403 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 11: camp so far in the discussion, is through the grant 404 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 11: making programs for universities and loans to either reduce that 405 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 11: and the stuff that you can't reduce privatize that. 406 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 7: But this is about culture change. 407 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 11: It is about eliminating and reducing and educating populist and 408 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 11: to the extent that you are keeping it in place. 409 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 7: By giving it back to the States. We know what 410 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 7: that means. 411 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 11: It means more power for the already dominant right wing 412 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 11: narrative that we're dealing with. 413 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: Angelo Carousan Cruson from media matters about as articulate as 414 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: you possibly get and walk and through exactly what the 415 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: issue is. Tim Wahlberg now joins us, Can we get 416 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: Congressman Wahlberg up? 417 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: Do we have him? Okay, there we go. Do we 418 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: have Congressman Warburg? 419 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Okay, Congressman you're the chair, You're the chair of the 420 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Education Committee. How big a day is this for you? 421 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 9: Oh? 422 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 12: This is an exciting day. It's something I've dreamed about 423 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 12: for many years while I was still an Education Committee 424 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 12: as a member. Now as chairman, I'm hoping, like Lena 425 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 12: McMahon being the last Education Secretary, I'll be the last 426 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 12: Education chairman in the House. So this has an opportunity 427 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 12: to turn education around, to take care of the student, 428 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 12: the parent, and the teacher. We get those things right, 429 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 12: we get education right. 430 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: So congressman explained to people, because the left is already 431 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: coming after us hard, how can you have an education 432 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: department that hasn't I mean, why do you say it's 433 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: a great day that you want to get rid of 434 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the Education Committee, Department of Education. You know, we've put 435 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: three trillion dollars into this. I think the budgets a 436 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: couple hundred million dollars. Why has it been an epic 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: fail in your eyes? Because I know you guys are 438 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: trying to work this program and monitor the budget and 439 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: appropriate Why has it been such a failure that we 440 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: had to get rid of it? 441 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 12: Well, because we took it away, the real power away 442 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 12: from the parents, the states, the local school districts. We 443 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 12: put them under the weight of huge amounts of bureaucracy, 444 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 12: red tape paperwork. We gave them a little bit of 445 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 12: money between eight and thirteen percent of the K twelve 446 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 12: school's dollars come from the Feds, but over ninety percent 447 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 12: of their bureaucratic paperwork that all have cost not only 448 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 12: dollars and cents, but also an impact in the classroom, 449 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 12: allowing the teacher to do what he or she desires 450 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 12: to do. 451 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 9: There are great teachers that. 452 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 12: Simply want more student FaceTime that they can do the 453 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 12: job they want to do. 454 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 9: And so while we. 455 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 12: Are looking to remove a department, the buique bureaucracy, we 456 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 12: know that some of the programs are good and that 457 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 12: states will up them and the competition between states and 458 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 12: local school districts can provide an educational system that works. Remember, 459 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 12: we've had this Department of Education only since nineteen eighty. 460 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 12: Before that, we had the agriculture revolution, the industrial revolution, 461 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 12: and that all came with local control. 462 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: And education that made a difference in people's lives. 463 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: The bulk of this funding, I think a lot of 464 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: it goes to colleges and they're already complaining. The credential 465 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: class is already complaining to saying, hey this, this is 466 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: nothing but a bunch of This is an angry populist 467 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: movement that is a vindictive jealous of educated people that 468 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: the rubs of the Maga movement, the roofs of the 469 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: Trump movement. This is just to get even with people 470 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: that happen to be their betters and more highly educated. 471 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 12: Your response, sir, well, my response is that's a wrong 472 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 12: headed We're not opposing quality educational, educational opportunity for everyone, 473 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 12: whether it be in a trade school, apprenticeship program, a 474 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 12: community college, or a four year institution and graduate level training, 475 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 12: whatever's necessary. But we want that to be education that 476 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 12: prepares people, trains people, educates them for the real world experience. 477 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 12: And it also doesn't undermine the morality and the traditional 478 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 12: values that has made America what it has become, really 479 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 12: the focal point. 480 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 9: For the rest of the world. 481 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 12: So the educrats that are in some of these higher 482 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 12: education inst don't like to see change because they have control. 483 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 12: If they lose control and have to compete, that's a 484 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 12: challenge for them. 485 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: I'd like to give them that challenge. 486 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 12: Some of them will compete, others will have to go away. 487 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: You have some great universities in Michigan, do you think 488 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: you know University of Michigan, Michigan State. Have the Have 489 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the heads of those universities come to you. Have they said, Hey, 490 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: this is the type of hit that we can't have 491 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: this gap. 492 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: In our budget. 493 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: We know that you guys are also looking at cutting 494 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: research that we're not going to be able to go on, 495 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: that we're. 496 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: Going to be in economic extremas. 497 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 12: Sir Well, I see schools like University of Michigan deciding 498 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 12: to compete. 499 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: They're wilverines, they're tenacious. 500 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 12: I've had conversations with the top leadership, and they're willing 501 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 12: to compete. They've indicated that they will do what's necessary 502 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 12: to make sure that any research that they do, if 503 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 12: it's appropriate and the FED funds are there to do it, 504 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 12: it'll be done right. 505 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: They also can you. 506 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Hear in one second, I want to take I want 507 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: to take a short break. It's a short commercial break. 508 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this executive order and 509 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: how it's actually going to be implemented in the House 510 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: of Representatives and the broader government. Short commercial break. Congressman 511 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Tim Wahlberg is with us, Mike Davis is going to 512 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: join us. We'll be back after a short commercial break. 513 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 6: It's deadline, so, Katie, as you noted, the deadline was 514 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 6: at noon. There could be many reasons, or really two 515 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: principal reasons that we don't see it on the docket. 516 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 6: One is the obvious one that they haven't filed anything 517 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 6: and therefore they would be in violation of a court's order. 518 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: But there is a second possibility, and sources with whom 519 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 6: I've talked today have acknowledged that particularly here where you 520 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 6: expect the administration perhaps to invoke that state secret doctrine 521 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 6: instead of providing the information that Judge Bosberg called for. 522 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 6: Those were the two options he gave them, answer my 523 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 6: five questions or invoke the state secrets doctrine. If they're 524 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 6: going to do the former, they may have done so 525 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 6: X party underseal, and that means it wouldn't necessarily have 526 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 6: hit the public docket. Yet there could be a filing 527 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 6: in his hands, just not one that we can see. 528 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 7: When will we know whether they did file? 529 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 6: It could take a couple of days. Obviously the other 530 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 6: party wouldn't know either, because when you file ex parte, 531 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 6: what that means is that that's a filing between the 532 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 6: filing party and the judge alone and not given to 533 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 6: the other side. So we can't rely, for example, on 534 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: the plane is here represented by the ACLU and Democracy 535 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 6: Forward to necessarily be the ones that alert us to 536 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 6: the fact that something has happened. 537 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 16: Federal judge at the center of the court battle over 538 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 16: deportation flights is again blasting the Trump Justice Department, saying 539 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 16: the information that the administration handed over today is quote 540 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 16: woefully insufficient end quote. CNN's Evan Perez has been following 541 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 16: these developments. 542 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 7: Evan, what have we learned? 543 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 17: Well. 544 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 18: Judge Boseburg is chastising the Justice Department casey because he 545 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 18: says that what the Justice Department provided to him today, 546 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 18: which came after the deadline he had imposed. He had 547 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 18: given him a noon deadline to provide information, some more 548 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 18: information about these flights from over the weekend that carried 549 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 18: these immigrants to the president in El Salvador. He had 550 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 18: asked him to provide that information by noon. He said, 551 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 18: they missed it. They missed the deadline. They actually provided 552 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 18: information afterwards, but it was not what he had requested. 553 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 18: He had wanted more detail, more information about exactly who 554 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 18: were on those flights, including a third flight that took 555 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 18: off after the judge had issued in order saying turn 556 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 18: those flights around, do not deport anybody else until we 557 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 18: have some more information. And what he says he got 558 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 18: was a written declaration from a lower level person at 559 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 18: Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and it is not answering the 560 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 18: questions that he was asking. And so what now we 561 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 18: have is it appears a bit of a standoff between 562 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 18: the Justice Department and this judge. 563 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: Judge James Bosberg. 564 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 18: He is the chief judge here at the Federal Court 565 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 18: in Washington, and he says he means what he says. 566 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 18: He wants them to provide more information, and he can 567 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 18: also giving them an off ramp. He's saying, you can 568 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 18: declare that this is a state secret and I will 569 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 18: go away. 570 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: Essentially. Okay, that's better. How don't meet myself? 571 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: Accounters and Wohlwerg had to bounce. He's got to get 572 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: to the airport catcher playing word track game later. 573 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: But I'm I ask Mike Davis's I. 574 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Had some structural questions to ask Mike about executive orders 575 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: in these cabinets. But I want to go and get 576 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: back to this deportations, the unit, the unity, unitary executive theory, 577 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: President Trump's commander in chief, Mike, the attention with on 578 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: this deportation, this national security issue with the violent terrorist 579 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: gangs being sent out of the country by the commander 580 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: in chief. Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, brother. I'm 581 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: not a lawyer, but it looks like it's heating up. 582 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: This judge is getting pretty nasty now in his responses 583 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and saying that the White House response is woefully inadequate. 584 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: What's the latest and where do you see this thing 585 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: headed Sir dc Obama. 586 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 17: Judge Jeb Bosberg, who was the presiding judge over the 587 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 17: Pisa Court during crossfire, hurricane and Russian collusion, the biggest 588 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 17: scandal in American history is way out over his judicial 589 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 17: skis right now. How he is ordering the President and 590 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 17: his team to do things that this judge does not 591 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 17: have the power to order them to do. He does 592 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 17: not have the power to issue an order from Washington, 593 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 17: d C. To tell the President and his team to 594 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 17: stop deporting international terrorists designated foreign terrorists along with international 595 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 17: criminal gang members. Judge Bosburg does not have the power 596 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 17: to order the President to turn around planes during the 597 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 17: middle of that operation. The Judge Bosburg does not have 598 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 17: the power to seek this secret information from the executive 599 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 17: branch because. 600 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 13: It's not relevant to anything. 601 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 17: He has the power to decide to think about what 602 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 17: this judge did, which is so both lawless and dangerous. 603 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 17: He held a hearing. He ran into his courtroom last 604 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 17: Saturday and held a hearing during the middle of an 605 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 17: ongoing military intel. 606 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 13: In law enforce operation where we are. 607 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 17: Getting the most vicious violent terrorists and gang members in 608 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 17: the Western Hemisphere out of our country, and this judge 609 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 17: exposed this ongoing operation which endangered American lives and the 610 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 17: lives of our allies. This Judge Bosburg ordered these planes 611 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 17: turn around in international law space, which he absolutely did 612 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 17: not have the power to do. To this judge understand 613 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 17: that maybe, just maybe, we didn't have the security footprints 614 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 17: in America that you saw in Al Salvador, where you 615 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 17: had hundreds of military and police and other law enforcement 616 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 17: officials ready to take these most vicious, violent terrorists and 617 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 17: gang members and put them in prison. We didn't have 618 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 17: that footprint in America. Did Judge Boseburg how much fuel 619 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 17: was on these planes when he ordered them turned around 620 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 17: in the middle of the Gulf of America. It is 621 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 17: very very, very very unlawful and dangerous what Judge Bosberg 622 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 17: has ordered. And now he's digging in and doubling down. 623 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 17: And I would say this, I've never called on anyone 624 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 17: to ignore a court's order. I have called on the 625 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 17: president and his team to ignore this court's order because 626 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 17: it's both extremely lawless and extremely dangerous to our national security. 627 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 17: Why would a foreign country want to keep doing business 628 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 17: with the President of the United States and take such 629 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 17: high risks if they think it's going to get exposed. 630 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Hang on, you've actually gone out of your way, Viceroy, 631 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: to actually argue the opposite. You're saying, Hey, even if 632 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: some of these have been out of bounds, you have 633 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: argued from the beginning of this entire thing, you should 634 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: comply with this because as it goes up the chain, 635 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: you want to show that the White House has complied, 636 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: even if some of the tros and adjunctions have been out. 637 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: Outside the bounds. 638 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: Why is Mike Davis choosing this one to actually argued 639 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: to the White House You should not comply, sir. 640 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 17: Because the President, as the chief executive officer and the 641 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 17: commander in chief, has a constitutional duty to protect American 642 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 17: lives from danger. And this lawless order by Judge Boseburg, 643 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 17: it's not just that it was lawless. It was lawless 644 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 17: and very dangerous to American lives. And that's why the 645 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 17: President not only should have ignored this order, he had 646 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 17: a duty to ignore this order under Article. 647 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 13: Two of the Constitution. 648 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 17: And I'm not saying that you should just ignore every 649 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 17: lawless order from a judge, because judges issue lawless orders 650 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 17: every day. It's the fact that this was a lawless 651 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 17: order that dealt squarely with the president's duty as commander 652 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 17: in chief to protect our country. And again, think about 653 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 17: what could have happened. They turn around these planes to 654 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 17: comply with Judge Boseburg, and they don't have enough fuel 655 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 17: and they crash in the Gulf of America. Or they 656 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 17: turn around these planes and the the people on the 657 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 17: planes see that the planes are turning around, and they 658 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 17: riot and it causes American uh, the American personnel in 659 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 17: the planes to get injured or killed. Or they turn 660 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 17: around the planes and they bring them back to America 661 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 17: and land and they don't have the security footprints that 662 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 17: that we would. 663 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 13: Have we had at El Salvador. 664 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 17: And remember Trendy or Ragua is working with Venezuela as 665 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 17: state actor, and so Venezuela certainly knows if these planes 666 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 17: are turning around and where it's landing, and it could 667 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 17: have its own operatives on the grounds to interfere with 668 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 17: with the landing. 669 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 13: We didn't. 670 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 17: We would not have had several hundred military officers and 671 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 17: law enforcement officers on the return because we didn't plan 672 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 17: on the fact that some crazy judge in DC was 673 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 17: going to run into his chambers on Saturday and issue. 674 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 13: This completely lawless order. Right and so. 675 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 17: When this judge Bosborg has absolutely crossed the line, that's 676 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 17: why we are calling for his impeachments at the Article 677 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 17: three project. 678 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 13: We've never done that. 679 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 17: We've never said to ignore a lawless order. We've never 680 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 17: said to impeach a judge. 681 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 13: Over a lawless order like this. 682 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 17: But this is so extreme, it's so dangerous that it 683 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 17: needs to happen. Even if the House opens the inquiry. 684 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 17: We need to make an example out of Bosberg. Even 685 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 17: if he doesn't get impeached and removed by the Senate, 686 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 17: we need to make an example out of him. 687 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 13: There needs to be a deterrence. 688 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 17: We need Judge Boseburg paying severe legal, political, and financial 689 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 17: consequences for his dangerous lawless order that put our national 690 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 17: security at risk, that puts the President's ability to conduct 691 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 17: foreign affairs at risk, to deter other activist judges. I 692 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 17: know this for a fact, because these DC judges don't 693 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 17: understand who's in the room with them. I know this 694 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 17: for a fact that they are giddy about who's going 695 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 17: to issue the next so called temporary restraining order to 696 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 17: sabotage President Trump. Because they political and policy disagreements with US, 697 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 17: and the Supreme Court refused to stop this two weeks 698 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 17: ago with Judge all Lee when this Canadian citizen ordered 699 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 17: the president to issue to send out two billion dollars 700 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 17: in four and eight over the president's National security review 701 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 17: to make sure we're not funding hamas terrorist and under 702 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 17: the guys of you know, Gossen humanitarian relief, we're not 703 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 17: funding waste frauden abuse like transgender mice research. 704 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 13: This All Lee let this order. 705 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 17: This money to go out the door of the Supreme 706 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 17: Court refuse to stop him because the Chief Justice John 707 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 17: Roberts and Justice and Amy Cody Barrett blinks. And now 708 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 17: that these that happened, these judges are emboldened, Right, they 709 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 17: are absolutely emboldened. They are sabotaging the president. And every 710 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 17: day that the President is unable to perform his constitutional 711 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 17: duty to take care that our laws are faithfully executed 712 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 17: under Article two of our Constitution is a day too long. 713 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 17: This They talk about it that Trump's the danger to democracy. 714 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 17: These activist judges are the dangers to democracy. 715 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 2: Okay, So. 716 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: Roberts came out and had this guy's back. The guy's 717 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: dug in. Since then, the commentator right there. The observer said, 718 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: I see the providing off ramp. I don't see an 719 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: off ramp. How does this proceed end? Because this guy's 720 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: dug in. And one of the reasons he's dug in 721 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: even more than when he started is Roberts came out 722 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: and said and put a shout across Trump's spell when 723 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: the President said we ought to begin an impeachment inquiry 724 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: of him, and Roberts said, that's completely inappropriate. That Mike Davis, 725 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: the viceroy of the War Room of the war and posse, 726 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: we're out of line here. So how do you see 727 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: this one, specifically in this national security issue? How do 728 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: you see this ending? The Chief Justice is. 729 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 17: Completely out of line by coming out and making that 730 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 17: political statement. 731 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 13: Though impeachment is a. 732 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 17: Political process strictly for the House and the Senate to decide, 733 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 17: and it's their decision whether to impeach and remove and 734 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 17: no one else's, And for that for the Chief Justice 735 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 17: to come out and put up that statement is an outrage. 736 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 17: He poured political gasoline on a political fire. And this 737 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 17: is what the chief does too often. He makes these 738 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 17: little chief political moves where he thinks he's protecting the 739 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 17: courts judiciary. The federal judiciaries achieves me legitimacy, the federal 740 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 17: judiciary's legitimacy, and all he's doing is harming it by 741 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 17: putting the federal judiciary into the political arena. 742 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 13: Did you see the Chief Justice put out. 743 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 17: Any statement condemning Democrats when they were calling for the 744 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 17: Chief Justice's colleagues impeachment after the DBS decision? 745 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 13: No you didn't. Did you see the Chief Justice. 746 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 17: Put out any statement when the Democrats were calling for 747 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 17: Judge Eileen Cannons impeachment after the presidential records case? 748 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 13: No you didn't. 749 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 17: Why is the Chief Justice this is cherry picking Jeb Bosberg, 750 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 17: his buddy on the DC District Court. 751 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 13: Who the Chief Justice put in charge of the visor court? 752 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 17: Why is he protecting his buddy in DC but not 753 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 17: his conservative colleagues or Judge Cannon? Why is he being 754 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 17: selective with his outrage on impeachment of judges? 755 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: Mike you hare in one second, I want to continue 756 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: this and put up the call to action over at 757 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: article three after a short commercial break about what you're 758 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: requesting people to take a look at. Take your phone 759 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: out right now, text Bannon b A N N O 760 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: N at nine eight request the ultimate guide for the 761 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: purchase of gold and precious metals in the era of Trump. 762 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: Find Out why is a store of value in a 763 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: hedge against times of financial turbulence. Do it today, short Break, 764 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: here's your host, Stephen k Ban. We talk about the 765 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: unitary executive theory. Remember we're a big believer here. Ideas 766 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: have consequences of big consequences. One is modern monetary theory. 767 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: This is a radical theory came out of France that 768 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: has been a big driver of nations that didn't think 769 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: deficits matter. Well, guess what they do matter. One of 770 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: the reasons inflation's embedded into the system is two trallion 771 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: dollars deficits every year now for the United States, thirty 772 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: seven training dollars in debt and it just keeps building. 773 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: Go to Birch Gold dot com slash ben and talk 774 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: to Philip Patrick and the team. Find out where gold 775 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 1: is hitting an all time high every couple of days. 776 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: It's not the price of goal, it's what's driving the 777 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: price of goal. That's what you have to understand, and 778 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: that's what Philip Patrick. Our end of the Dollar Empire 779 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: series All Free will help to explain that to you 780 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: to get to start to get some pattern recognition. So 781 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: go try it out today, Modern monetary theory, the idea 782 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: that broke the world, and get it at Birch gold 783 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Bannon and talk to Philip Patrian team 784 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: about this. We talked about deficits. That's the whole reason, Mike. 785 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: You know we're back of this Department of Education thing before. 786 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: Let me get to that before I had the call 787 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: to action, because you're in a very specific call to 788 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: action and impeachment. 789 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: This deficit. Well, I was just talking about Birch Gold. 790 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: You can't have these massive deficits because you're gonna have 791 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: inflation like the Weimar Republic if you don't take control. 792 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: But part of that is downsizing the government and doses 793 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: out there and waste for an abuse. But there's also 794 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: programmatic changes that can really take out big hunks. And 795 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: I keep saying that you take it up by programs, 796 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: and you take it up by billets. It's not just 797 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: individual people. You've got to get rid of the billets 798 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: and the programs. Here's what I think on TV on MSNBC, 799 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: they're blowing us up, walk our audience through in the 800 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: unitary executive theory. Why President Trump can sign in executive 801 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: order and therefore take a cabinet that was set up 802 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: a department that was set up as a cabinet official, 803 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, fifty years ago, forty some years ago, 804 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: and just with the stroke of a pen get rid 805 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: of it. 806 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 17: Sir, Well, first, it's not the unitary executive theory, because 807 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 17: we're not liberals. It's Article two of the Constitution, and 808 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 17: the president has the executive power, and under the executive power, 809 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 17: he has a duty to take care that our laws 810 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 17: are faithfully executed. That includes rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse. 811 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 17: So if there is something created by statutes like that, 812 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 17: you know, if there's a department created by statutes, the 813 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 17: president can't just eliminate. He can't just overturn that congressional statute. 814 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 17: But that doesn't mean that we have to have seventy 815 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 17: five thousand employees at a department. We can cut down 816 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 17: the offices that are not created by statute. 817 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 13: We can cut it down to size. 818 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 17: And so you're going to see President Trump do that 819 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 17: at a lot of these departments and agencies. Is that 820 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 17: you know, there might be a department created by statute, 821 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 17: but that doesn't mean it has to be it has 822 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 17: to be have so much blow. So you can cut 823 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 17: it back just because the president has discretion as the 824 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 17: as the chief executive officer to manage these departments that 825 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 17: are set up by statute. And if he doesn't think 826 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 17: he needs seventy five seventy five thousand employees, if he 827 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 17: thinks he can do his statutory duty and faithfully carry 828 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 17: out these laws with five hundred employees instead of seventy 829 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 17: five thousand, he can do that as long as there's 830 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 17: not a statutory. 831 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hang on. 832 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: So whether it's USAID or Voice of America and all 833 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: these other grantees at Voice America or all these grantees 834 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: that ten of tens of billions of dollars at DOE, 835 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: those are all kinds that you take it basically down 836 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: to the deck plates, to the statutory minimum, right that 837 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: you're fulfilling that function, and maybe over some part in 838 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: time Congress gets around that. But you take it down 839 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: to the statutory minimum, and you continue to function that way, 840 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: and these types of things that you're looking at, you 841 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: cut out programmatically ninety percent of the cost roughly something 842 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 1: like that. 843 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: Is that the theory of how it's going to work. 844 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 13: It sounds like it is. 845 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 17: And so you're going to have Elon Musk and Doge 846 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 17: and these agency heads as the wrecking ball, and then 847 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 17: the agency heads will work with RUSS votes to clean 848 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 17: up the mess. And look, you see these mass layoffs 849 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 17: in Washington DC. Has any real American and real America 850 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 17: felt any pain from this? Is anyone losing any sleep 851 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 17: or not getting dinner on the table because we're not 852 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 17: funding transgender mice and Botswana or wherever the hell we're 853 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 17: funding this stuff. I mean, that's the issue, is that 854 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 17: these government programs are slush funds for the UNI Party 855 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 17: elite in Washington, DC. It takes money from real Americans 856 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 17: in real America, driving up the cost with inflation, driving 857 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 17: up interest rates, so we can make people in Washington, 858 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 17: d C fat and happy. We saw this during recessions. 859 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 17: We saw this during COVID. America was struggling during these recessions. 860 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 17: But what do they do in Washington, d C. They 861 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 17: just keep printing more money and they get fat and 862 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 17: happy when the rest of America, real Americans and real 863 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 17: America suffer. So it's time that we put Washington d C. 864 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 17: On a crash diet and Elon Musk is doing that. 865 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: Now give your call to action. You're very serious as 866 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: the Viceroy that this guy needs to be impeached. We 867 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: need to go through the process and people shouldn't worry 868 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: whether in a trial in the Senate he's going to 869 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: be removed. It's trust the process. So where do people go, 870 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: how they find out more about it? What's the call 871 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: to action? 872 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 9: Here? 873 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 17: Article threeproject dot org, article number three, Project dot org. 874 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 17: You can donate their follow us on social media. The 875 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 17: most important thing again, the war room POSSE does the 876 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 17: superpower of the world. POSSE is teaming up with the 877 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 17: Article three project and lighting up key officials. And we're 878 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 17: lighting up are both of our home state senators and 879 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 17: our US House rep to impeach DC Obama Judge jeb 880 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 17: Boseburg for his extremely lawless and extremely dangerous order where 881 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 17: he exposed a national security operation on Saturday when he 882 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 17: ran into his courtroom, exposed an ongoing operation putting American 883 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 17: lives and Allied lives at risk. He ordered planes turned around. 884 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 17: He apparently, you know I always say apparently Boseberg is 885 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 17: a trans black woman, because I didn't realize he was 886 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 17: qualified to be an air traffic controller until Saturday when 887 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 17: he ran in there and did that. So Biden must 888 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 17: have made him an air traffic controller because he ordered 889 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 17: these planes turned around. He didn't know how much fuel 890 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 17: was in them. He didn't care. He didn't care if 891 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 17: they crashed in the middle of the Gulf of America. 892 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 17: He was going to make I'm sure he didn't let 893 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 17: his terrorist buddies with Trenda Ragua and his MS thirteen 894 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 17: buddies get said Del Salvador. 895 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 13: Good. 896 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: Let's go to article three. Project Mike Davis. Let's focus 897 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: on the House Judiciary Committee. Mike, what is your social media? 898 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: We get about twenty seconds m. 899 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 9: R D D M I A m R D. 900 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 13: Michael R. 901 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 17: Davis, des Moines, Iowa, and I come in hot, as 902 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 17: you said, particularly late at night. 903 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 13: So thank you, day night. 904 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: God bless you, Mike. 905 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: This is a big one, the judicial coupd' ta stopping 906 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: it right. Stuff's going to take as I would be 907 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: back in a moment. Measles in Texas, Kennedy's assassination, Jackie Toberoff, 908 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: and Manhattan, all of it. 909 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: Next in the war room,