Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make.
Speaker 2: Horrible decision.
Speaker 3: Sorry, vibrate.
Speaker 4: It's a library, he said, put your ship on the
Speaker 4: Gray Beach beet for fishing in a page.
Speaker 5: It's my birthday week.
Speaker 2: Oh, she said, you violent.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut up. Why did you put this in front.
Speaker 1: Of Honest, I think about it all the time.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, now, you know what's she's kind of nuts. Now,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 4: When I when I said I wanted to hire you back,
Speaker 4: she was like, well, you know he's you know you
Speaker 4: nobody does right. And I was like, girl, anybody the girl,
Speaker 4: he ain't gonna punch us, know you did.
Speaker 2: You were a little nervous.
Speaker 1: No, it was your punch, isn't it. I kind of
Speaker 1: felt awkward because of orient mall.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't.
Speaker 1: That made me feel awf They're not they know they're
Speaker 1: super chill. But I just meant, like, damn, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take it in right back.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah the job that time.
Speaker 6: But I was just like, and you know, it's funny
Speaker 6: because a lot of people don't maybe understand how it
Speaker 6: all happened, right.
Speaker 3: How is yeah?
Speaker 2: This is not going on the episode. No, no, we
Speaker 2: don't even talk about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyway, I definitely called Rory once that happening.
Speaker 2: Y'all welcome to a horrible decision.
Speaker 1: We got our producers on the line and tell you
Speaker 1: the t eden.
Speaker 6: So I called Rory to hang out that week, and
Speaker 6: y'all know, I'm not on Twitter.
Speaker 1: No one told me what happened. So I called Rory.
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, we're talking ship or whatever for like
Speaker 6: five or ten minutes. He's like, so go ahead, and
Speaker 6: I'm like what And he's like come on, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: what the fuck is going on. He's like, wheezy, like
Speaker 6: you're finding with me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I am not.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh yeah, you literally don't be in the world.
Speaker 4: You got you in your own world.
Speaker 3: I am, but you're not.
Speaker 4: Once you're on Twitter, you're dealing with the Twitter spears
Speaker 4: of the bullshit, shit, crazy shit.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you how like far removed I am.
Speaker 6: I got a call from someone I work with and
Speaker 6: it was literally like you need to stop doing and
Speaker 6: I'm like, what are you talking about? It was because
Speaker 6: Mandy and start ex co host we're beefing, and I'm
Speaker 6: like I was.
Speaker 4: From that I thought you were talking about the other
Speaker 4: podcaster or the way every week and somebody you.
Speaker 6: Don't be knowing what's going on. The only thing I
Speaker 6: did know, bitch, when you pulled out that laptop, and
Speaker 6: I know, so what's crazy?
Speaker 4: As niggas swear i'd be beefing anyway, but it don't
Speaker 4: be beef with nobody. I just share my opinion and
Speaker 4: move on. But also I really love being petty. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, that shit make my pussy thump in real life,
Speaker 4: like my shit be like I'm like pet I swear to.
Speaker 2: Go on it.
Speaker 1: So you think you don't start it.
Speaker 4: I started first off, freedom of speech. It's one of
Speaker 4: the amendments commandments.
Speaker 2: What it's amendments. Fight you're right, bitch, get the fuck
Speaker 2: out of here.
Speaker 4: Listen because when I moved to Georgia, bitch a bitch
Speaker 4: getting a little pink gun pupy. It's gonna be key
Speaker 4: you going on now, you're good, I mean, listen, the
Speaker 4: gun the gun about to be gunning.
Speaker 5: Girl.
Speaker 6: I had a phone call from a girl that I
Speaker 6: rarely hang out with, maybe once a year. I see
Speaker 6: her and she was like, girl, I can't wait to
Speaker 6: hang out with you when you and Atlanta. I'm like,
Speaker 6: I'm not coming to Atlanta. What are you talking about.
Speaker 6: I don't have any plan. She's like, no, I listened
Speaker 6: to this weekend. Man, he's coming to Wanta.
Speaker 2: So that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I said, Oh, first off, the fact that you could
Speaker 4: live in La and Mexico. But niggas think the show
Speaker 4: ending because I'm moving to Atlanta. I'm like, bitch, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna still be in New York. We're gonna make it
Speaker 4: motherfucker happen.
Speaker 1: I aready may come from this. I think that could
Speaker 1: be fun.
Speaker 6: I think I told you Earnier Leisure inspired me a
Speaker 6: little bit because they travel for episodes, like if there's
Speaker 6: anything that's close by.
Speaker 4: I'm like, now we are touring next year. If I
Speaker 4: don't the least amount of times I have to get
Speaker 4: on a plane next year, No, I'm about.
Speaker 1: To get back on Atlanta. To me, is traveling like
Speaker 1: it's I.
Speaker 4: Go to La now because you're there, if you have
Speaker 4: to come to Atlanta. Yeah, I think we'll be open
Speaker 4: to more guest options. But I think the audience be
Speaker 4: liking these solos, so I think as long as we
Speaker 4: know fighting, hey, if y'all start seeing a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of guests.
Speaker 2: Just know we're going through it, but.
Speaker 6: We will come back. That's how feel about booty picks.
Speaker 6: If I post my ass, bitch, what the oh that
Speaker 6: mean you single?
Speaker 1: That single? I mean I'm trying to fiss them off.
Speaker 4: Oh and see, this is why I'm going to be
Speaker 4: single forever, because bitch, I wish the nigga.
Speaker 1: Would, Oh, girl, you're not going to see here and.
Speaker 4: Go straight to the internet and get the attention of
Speaker 4: folks because we because you're mad right now, Because I'd
Speaker 4: be like, go and then that's.
Speaker 2: The problem too.
Speaker 4: No, it's just fun, you know, so for me, So
Speaker 4: that's where I think should be fucking up with me, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't think I care enough.
Speaker 2: So when niggas see that shit, don't.
Speaker 4: Really phathe me, they'd be like, oh, but you don't
Speaker 4: even really like part of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't be caring.
Speaker 1: Hate the player.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to bring something up that I found
Speaker 6: to be interested in speaking of niggas, So I'm watching
Speaker 6: Love is Blind with my dude, right. The Love is
Speaker 6: Blind UK version, very very interesting one because there's a
Speaker 6: black couple on there and the girl that he chose
Speaker 6: to me, she a big girl, but she's definitely like curvy.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about you saying whatever? You about
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 4: Say so because they're casting in Atlanta right now. For
Speaker 4: Love is Blind. My homegirls was like, bitch, you gotta
Speaker 4: go on. Are you about to move here? And I said,
Speaker 4: are are we friends? My love is not blind? No,
Speaker 4: I need to see my life. Need to be down, bitch,
Speaker 4: I'm too shut up, a little bit blond.
Speaker 6: Normally I say like, oh, I.
Speaker 1: Being with a fine nigga.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: We went to the layout.
Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many people stop this nigga
Speaker 6: to hey, I'm making a photo off. I'm doing this,
Speaker 6: I'm doing that. It does feel good again. But so
Speaker 6: something made me realize, oh, maybe I do have a
Speaker 6: little mandy in me.
Speaker 1: Here's why she's got a.
Speaker 2: Little mandy in you. Say it again, Say it again.
Speaker 6: I didn't say I was eating ass. So here's the
Speaker 6: conversation we start happening. We watched Love is Lying and
Speaker 6: when the black dude saw the shorty, he was like, oh,
Speaker 6: she's fired. She's fired. So we didn't really believe. I
Speaker 6: was like, oh no, I feel like he wasn't feeling
Speaker 6: the fact. You know, there was another girl he almost chose,
Speaker 6: who's super fit. She even talks about how she goes
Speaker 6: to gym twice a week, and when he saw her,
Speaker 6: his reaction was intense. So we were like his love
Speaker 6: really blind. And I said to him, you think if
Speaker 6: we were behind these walls, we would choose each other.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, of.
Speaker 6: Course, we would think about our first phone conversation before
Speaker 6: we ever met in person. We were on the phone
Speaker 6: for hours, like we really vibe with each other. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: but if I was on it, it's because I feel
Speaker 6: like I thought you were fine and you thought I
Speaker 6: was fine. So we're flirting now because we know each
Speaker 6: other sexy. That's the basis of our first connection, right,
Speaker 6: I said, but what if there was a guy in
Speaker 6: the pods on Love is Blind? That we have a
Speaker 6: lot of different opinions my man and I like, I said,
Speaker 6: he's like he's very wolfy in the sense that he's
Speaker 6: a hotep niga and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not what if I men will do shaking his head
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 6: Had a different energy or was more like oh yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm all about this, or or like sex head and
Speaker 6: women's liberation.
Speaker 1: Would I have been like, oh, we're so in alignment.
Speaker 6: Would I have thought that was more of a guy
Speaker 6: for me, just because the fact that behind these walls,
Speaker 6: I'm trying to find.
Speaker 1: Someone quote unquote compatible.
Speaker 6: And I was like, Yo, if we would have seen
Speaker 6: each other outside in that honeymoon's face, like Nigga, we
Speaker 6: would have been wilding out.
Speaker 1: Me and him are.
Speaker 6: Really attracted to each other to the point, Mandy, and
Speaker 6: this is why I don't think love is blind. Well,
Speaker 6: we had a disagreement a few weeks ago. I tried
Speaker 6: to FaceTime him. He was mad at me about some shit.
Speaker 6: I no, really, I was like, come on, answer to phone.
Speaker 1: He's like no. Later that week he told me he
Speaker 1: didn't answer the phone.
Speaker 6: He's like, I can't look at you when we're in
Speaker 6: a disagreement because it makes me not focus on why
Speaker 6: I was mad.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm looking at you.
Speaker 6: I care about you like I'm seeing you, and it's
Speaker 6: ruining even what I want to try to get on
Speaker 6: the table, Like I can't focus on getting through to
Speaker 6: the issue because I'm looking at you.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. That was a problem.
Speaker 4: That's why I stayed with my excellent bitch. I know
Speaker 4: this just because you're not baby.
Speaker 2: Guess yes, when I tell you.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, this nigga line right now,
Speaker 4: and I know he lying because he's not a good liar.
Speaker 4: And I was like, but the god, damn he like
Speaker 4: the way I wanted to jump his fucking bones every time,
Speaker 4: the way I wanted to fuck him. I couldn't even
Speaker 4: be mad for long because it's like, damn he fine, okay, whatever,
Speaker 4: he ain't shit, but he fine, Like I like a financing,
Speaker 4: and what's crazy is only for so long. By the way,
Speaker 4: you get ugly after. Like when I saw that nigga
Speaker 4: at the part, I was like, look, he's salmon ass
Speaker 4: ugly as shorts.
Speaker 2: This nigga got on. I thought his outfit was ugly.
Speaker 2: I thought I saw everything.
Speaker 4: About I said. He came, I said, the last year
Speaker 4: of his bit rough. He looking a little rough. I
Speaker 4: just didn't like anything about him. I said, oh, he
Speaker 4: looking every bit of fifty. Now he didn't look yo.
Speaker 2: I hated everything, but that's because I had guys.
Speaker 4: But while I was in the midst of it and
Speaker 4: really enthralled by him, his looks literally made everything blind.
Speaker 6: I do think that by the love thing that's that's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, love isn't blind because there is.
Speaker 4: Love is blind to the bullshitrue, love.
Speaker 2: Is blind to the bullshit. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 6: The physicality of the conversation. You start to see somebody
Speaker 6: and realize like why you love them, and I think
Speaker 6: the attraction.
Speaker 1: For example, right now, I talk about.
Speaker 6: My dad being in a wheelchair a lot, and my
Speaker 6: mom and him are very playful about it. Right, But
Speaker 6: attraction isn't necessarily physical. It's spirit too, and it's something
Speaker 6: you have to see, and it's energy that you have
Speaker 6: to see. I say that because my daddy witchy, because
Speaker 6: he witchy. I'm not talking about myself. I'm watching this
Speaker 6: with my parents, right. They were together when my dad
Speaker 6: was younger, more fit. He used to be a boxer
Speaker 6: in his young age, a cop and like all kinds
Speaker 6: of like military shit he used to do, so he
Speaker 6: had a fit body. As he's aging and more fragile,
Speaker 6: my mom is still very into him, and I'm wondering,
Speaker 6: like sometimes in my brain if she's being phony with
Speaker 6: him or whatever, And I'm like, oh, it's because you
Speaker 6: could still feel this thing with him when you see him.
Speaker 1: He's making you laugh. You're looking at his eyes.
Speaker 6: It's not just if they're fine, it's your connection to them,
Speaker 6: of course, and like that shit is so physical that
Speaker 6: I don't believe that those couples that like say they're
Speaker 6: falling in love and the pods like are in reality.
Speaker 6: Like ever, they're not in a real reality because at
Speaker 6: the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Yes, someone can be amazing. You fell in love with
Speaker 1: a friend, bro, Yeah, that is the differentiation.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that that's a bit of the problem.
Speaker 4: When people get into relationships. They're looking for the perfect person.
Speaker 4: They're looking for someone that they have everything in common.
Speaker 4: When I do believe opposites a track, but in a
Speaker 4: way that could be like should be healthy though, Like
Speaker 4: me and my partner bit y'all know, he was a
Speaker 4: flatterther fucking all the shit and I loved just the
Speaker 4: constant conversations because we didn't agree on a lot of
Speaker 4: things around life, but it made for excitement. I think
Speaker 4: also people constantly look for someone who likes every single
Speaker 4: thing that they do. I remember when King Noir was
Speaker 4: on here and he was like, I don't like pretty Ricky.
Speaker 4: So if we're in a relationship, I would love for
Speaker 4: you to go enjoy that with someone else go into
Speaker 4: it pretty ricky. I think so many times you look
Speaker 4: for we look for someone to like be everything we
Speaker 4: want them to be, or to be so similar to
Speaker 4: us that that's what I think happens.
Speaker 2: And love is blind. Like did you see the did
Speaker 2: y'all see.
Speaker 4: The one where it was like, wait, your granddad's named that,
Speaker 4: me too, your aunt is named that, me too, and yeah,
Speaker 4: just thought they were fucking meant to be together and
Speaker 4: not thinking that they were fucking really two of.
Speaker 6: Them had specially needs fucking cousins and it was like, yo,
Speaker 6: but really, I'm not even trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine.
Speaker 6: Brother who's special needs and you meet somebody who also
Speaker 6: is going through the same thing.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my.
Speaker 6: Someone will understand me. Yeah now, no, I'll do a
Speaker 6: family tree. You were just making me think something, figure
Speaker 6: this out, because baby, we might get together and have
Speaker 6: kids that end up like our cousins. You know when
Speaker 6: I noticed the biggest differentiation in myself and my partner
Speaker 6: right now, what my Florida shit, the nigga be looking
Speaker 6: at me like, bitch, you are a bird. Don't let
Speaker 6: no Kodak come on it. Look it's really embarrassing. He
Speaker 6: told me that in backstage in our show we were
Speaker 6: playing Kaya. He was like, I looked at you like
Speaker 6: I cannot leave on Well you're out Florida, Florida's own.
Speaker 6: It really enjoy if I would have been on that
Speaker 6: show and met a nigga from Florida, Oh it's over.
Speaker 6: I'm probably going to match with you because I'm like,
Speaker 6: we shouldna say, git, you've grace fault. And as much
Speaker 6: as people say like, oh, you know how we change
Speaker 6: our voice out of that, when I go back to Florida,
Speaker 6: it takes me like a few days to get it out,
Speaker 6: like real bad.
Speaker 1: Damn did that happen to?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Bitch?
Speaker 4: I go down there and I'd be like what, I
Speaker 4: don't understand anybody like I'd be like, god, damn, this
Speaker 4: is would be talking about nigga, I ain't gonna hold you,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yuck, but I don't like accents, And
Speaker 4: I realized, oh, it's very deep down here.
Speaker 1: I you literally have it.
Speaker 4: I don't sound like do you got me fucked up?
Speaker 4: When I go anywhere, they'd be like, you're from New York.
Speaker 4: But I think it's because I'm loud.
Speaker 6: Okay, I do not sound do you know why people
Speaker 6: they don't sound like No, I don't sound deep like
Speaker 6: the thing we're from New York because the dressing is elevated. Okay,
Speaker 6: Like when you go to another spot in the States,
Speaker 6: you're clothes, you realize like, oh, like I got some
Speaker 6: more sweaty I now even when I'm in La, right
Speaker 6: the way that people know I'm not from LA or
Speaker 6: you don't.
Speaker 2: Wear spandex, I was gonna say, it's.
Speaker 1: Not it's not as leisure and it's not dead as
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 4: They wear leggings and ship, that's it, and they all.
Speaker 6: Just you putting shit on that just kind of look
Speaker 6: a little different. You're almost like, does this not match?
Speaker 6: And in New York that ship is a vibe. The
Speaker 6: only thing LA girls do that New York girls do
Speaker 6: is a cargo pant and a crop tea. Because that's
Speaker 6: just bad bitch wear in the summertime. Yeah right, that's
Speaker 6: what all about. He's gonna wear in summertime.
Speaker 1: Butter than that.
Speaker 4: No, I's be knowing and I really appreciate it. Like
Speaker 4: Bruh and the niggas dressed the same.
Speaker 6: It's cool because it's kind of sexy for l A
Speaker 6: like if you want to wear es centrals every day?
Speaker 1: Cool, Like I get that to your do your.
Speaker 2: Neutral the neutral. But I do like a little skater boy.
Speaker 6: I like a little gate Actually, if I could put
Speaker 6: the Mexican style on a black man kind of like
Speaker 6: not Ocho.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 6: He got his song Ochog that nigga be dressing. Okay,
Speaker 6: he got a swag to him with the dickies. He
Speaker 6: dresses like a Mexican is what you're saying, okay?
Speaker 1: Or Mexicans.
Speaker 2: He's just like you.
Speaker 1: No dosetress quatro something, bitch? What is it in your
Speaker 1: d today?
Speaker 3: I forgot what I forgot?
Speaker 1: It's not it's the ot genesis nigga.
Speaker 3: You mean, first of all, the song from I Think
Speaker 3: It's My Local.
Speaker 4: That is a whole different song. That's not a whole
Speaker 4: different beat. That's why she just started saying something in Spanish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 1: I'm not at him my hall pass list.
Speaker 2: Y G is added to your hall pass list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a swag. Okay, right now, it's then which.
Speaker 3: Is the one?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 3: Is? His name is m J. Whole different guy?
Speaker 4: Anyway, I don't know him so to me all the niggas,
Speaker 4: wow y g okay, b.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna hold you whenever left right, let me
Speaker 6: see you do it. I'm like, okay, that's.
Speaker 4: Just that's crazy. That is crazy.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 4: Aesthetically like, he looks like what I want to pass
Speaker 4: and want to suck his dick from the back.
Speaker 1: Now are you looking at him? That nigga?
Speaker 3: Look you looking at him?
Speaker 2: He looks like if you had these hills on, he
Speaker 2: may have to look up.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's not short.
Speaker 6: He's I actually think he's tall.
Speaker 3: So you guess on his head five nine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say six to one.
Speaker 3: He's six feet okay, which means.
Speaker 1: He's five ten and a half. No, no, no, he's
Speaker 1: not short.
Speaker 2: They even know you think.
Speaker 4: Away from Iverson is not even over six ft in
Speaker 4: the internet, say he's six to one. Go look and
Speaker 4: see how tay Allen Iverson is. Alan Iverson is lucky
Speaker 4: to be five eleven and three quarters.
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is though? Because they be
Speaker 3: lying just says six feet and he ain't. If you
Speaker 3: five eleven six quarters, I'm giving you six.
Speaker 4: No, Ai is not fucking six feet tall. I'm telling you, Bro,
Speaker 4: I'm five to one out have been in the same spot. Bro,
Speaker 4: that nigga used to be at the strip club every
Speaker 4: time when I lived in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: He's six ft to you, No, he's six foot that
Speaker 2: he is under six ft.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's not sure. I've seen him.
Speaker 2: No, I've seen why you too. He's short to me.
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, we have to understand that Mandy's parameters.
Speaker 3: Tall is very different. I'm like miniature to her. I
Speaker 3: can say no, essentially based off this math. Yeah, based
Speaker 3: off this math.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that Normally, when niggas say he's six ft,
Speaker 4: it's two inches short.
Speaker 1: Someone google helps tall Duke Dennis this did you want
Speaker 1: to put that, nigga?
Speaker 2: Oh, he's already looked up. He likes sixty three. Duke
Speaker 2: dinnis like sixty three right.
Speaker 5: To two inches?
Speaker 4: Now, first bet you wouldn't say that about no Dick.
Speaker 5: Yes, two more inches.
Speaker 3: That's forty all, bro.
Speaker 4: Two inches on a heel is a lot, two inches
Speaker 4: a lot, two inches on a human being is a lot.
Speaker 2: Are y'all serious?
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be tight. I just told Wolf I'll be tight.
Speaker 3: I lost.
Speaker 1: There's niggas reason I take it. I'm not as shallow
Speaker 1: as you.
Speaker 2: There are niggas doing their whole knees to get two inches.
Speaker 3: I don't need to be taller. I'm good.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. Y'all better stop acting like
Speaker 2: two inches in a lot?
Speaker 1: Yes, girl with you.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm just saying two inches of the difference between
Speaker 4: a cute heel and a kitten.
Speaker 2: There's a difference, bitch. Let's talk about the inches here,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Right, A dude is
Speaker 3: six ' to two, but he also got a six
Speaker 3: inch dick. You could either lose one of the two
Speaker 3: inches from either side. Which two inches is you lose it?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the dick, is it?
Speaker 2: Is it girthy?
Speaker 6: It's a normal girl, and I'm my mandy on this
Speaker 6: one than two inches? Actually yeah, wait, he's six he's six.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's six. He's six ft okay, six ft. He
Speaker 2: has got to go to the six foot.
Speaker 3: So you had to lose.
Speaker 2: From a six footer or two inches of dick from a.
Speaker 3: Six inch So he's out of five ten or four
Speaker 3: inches either Way'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna kick the dick, keep the dick six inch to
Speaker 1: me is not bad. I think six inch is really good.
Speaker 1: He loved when you went love to six.
Speaker 2: You're gonna let me fuck out the niggas.
Speaker 3: No, see, look that's crazy. That's the compromise.
Speaker 2: I mean what, bitch, I want to be a little tall.
Speaker 2: Let me look up at you.
Speaker 3: But he's gonna be five to ten over a six
Speaker 3: inch dick. No, man, bro, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm a Napoleon complex.
Speaker 1: I'm glad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying, is not no point taller, bitch,
Speaker 4: I feel taller than what I really am.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm like, okay, y'all being real judgy
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: No, both would the she's losing the two inches height,
Speaker 4: I'm losing the two inches of dick.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be.
Speaker 4: I get extra, I get some more dick, or bitch,
Speaker 4: I'll put an extender on him at this point, like,
Speaker 4: because I am.
Speaker 3: I would be So why would you be tight.
Speaker 4: About the extender? You know you can extend your dick.
Speaker 4: You don't want to put your dick inside of another dick?
Speaker 1: No, actually that is a good question for.
Speaker 3: Dick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, no, I would ask No, I want to
Speaker 4: ask this question So would you where an if you're
Speaker 4: if you got with a woman who lets you know
Speaker 4: that she's a size queen, would.
Speaker 1: You even if you have a ten inches dick right now,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Care about the side Like say you got a small
Speaker 4: dick and you get with a size queen but you
Speaker 4: love her dearly. Would you rather wear the extendo on
Speaker 4: your dick to make your dick bigger? Or would you
Speaker 4: allow her to fuck nigga with a big dick?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Which what what's your answer?
Speaker 2: So you you don't have a brain of y'all wolf,
Speaker 2: I want to hear.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to add the extend though I'm not
Speaker 3: into dude my girls.
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't like either one of these options, but
Speaker 7: I'm picking the extendo for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not letting my girl.
Speaker 2: God, but y'all want three songs fucking another bitch and
Speaker 2: we're gonna do three songs.
Speaker 1: Let me get some old dick.
Speaker 2: God, damn.
Speaker 6: Honestly, men are show used to over time feeling emasculated
Speaker 6: by another MANU girl that I think.
Speaker 3: But I'm a cheek that you think? What that?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 6: I try to when they do the devil standard. And
Speaker 6: I only give them grace because the patriarchy has tried
Speaker 6: to make women understand like they're good to fuck other women.
Speaker 6: They're good to fuck other women, and there's nobody doing
Speaker 6: that for us. There's nobody saying, hey, women want to
Speaker 6: meet someone else. They want to do this, ladies, I
Speaker 6: will be your savior.
Speaker 2: We want more dick, Give us more dick. Some of
Speaker 2: us want trains, some of us want gang bangs, some
Speaker 2: of us want BUKACKI wheezy. I think that we should start.
Speaker 2: We should be here today.
Speaker 4: No, we should be we should we should today stand
Speaker 4: up as a woman to let the world know that
Speaker 4: women desire and crave and.
Speaker 2: Yearn President, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To hope that you get your gang bangs, you keep
Speaker 1: your trades at least once a goddamn here, and I
Speaker 1: prodly stand.
Speaker 3: A year. I feel like men embrace their freaks. Excuse me,
Speaker 3: I don't think so, bro.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
Speaker 4: I don't think the world accepts like just seeing what
Speaker 4: what what the world. And when I say the world,
Speaker 4: the internet and everyone had to say about Adam twenty
Speaker 4: two allowing Lena to sleep with other men completely let
Speaker 4: me know that a lot of men, even if they
Speaker 4: would be okay with it, don't know how to express
Speaker 4: it or what. Never want to let anyone know that
Speaker 4: it wouldn't bother me if my bitch went out and
Speaker 4: fucked another guy. But I think because of how everyone
Speaker 4: around him would make him feel for that decision, it's something.
Speaker 2: That nor ain't nobody going to dine.
Speaker 6: Oh, let me tell you something to people that were
Speaker 6: acting like that with Adam. Hate Adam twenty two because
Speaker 6: he's white with a hippiexide.
Speaker 3: That's kind that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Hate him for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he already was dating a woman who was doing
Speaker 6: sex with sex work like then y'all took it even further. Bro,
Speaker 6: I just want to say something. I don't even know
Speaker 6: if they'll see this, but I work with a woman
Speaker 6: with Kenya Barris that literally told me she just found
Speaker 6: out that she goes to school whatever privates. Well, she
Speaker 6: has her kid in. Adam and Lenna's daughter go there. Okay,
Speaker 6: she was like, hey, do you know who Lenna? Wait,
Speaker 6: you talked about this and so basically talked about how
Speaker 6: normal Adam and Lena were on this field trip. She's like,
Speaker 6: he's so cool, They're so great. They're such great parents.
Speaker 6: I can't believe they do born.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how why kids get her?
Speaker 2: Regular people have sex, but.
Speaker 1: Here's the things that have sex. This woman.
Speaker 6: The woman is kind of older, and she's like, I
Speaker 6: cannot believe it. I cannot believe right. And so the
Speaker 6: fact that Adam and Lenna, I'm like, Yo, I wish
Speaker 6: you knew how much money they were making.
Speaker 1: I wish you knew how big they were.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably make more money than you, bitch, Sorry.
Speaker 2: On my friend, I work well, but problem, get out
Speaker 2: your hair.
Speaker 6: But no, I think the point is, like, this is
Speaker 6: someone whose kid goes to school with their kids the
Speaker 6: internet is looking at. First of all, Lenna has her
Speaker 6: own Lenda the mom. She even has an Instagram where
Speaker 6: she shares her family life. Right, they're real fucking parents.
Speaker 6: And like the fact that one world you can see
Speaker 6: this is okay. One world he's okay being an interviewer.
Speaker 6: It's okay when she's just doing OnlyFans. In the second
Speaker 6: it's sex with another man. Now we're gonna fucking shit
Speaker 6: all over.
Speaker 1: It, and it did. Bro, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 6: I think adamyo act like it's okay. But that shit
Speaker 6: would bother me.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 4: That's why I know y'all be like, uh like you
Speaker 4: being in a sex club every bitch. I've been going
Speaker 4: like bi weekly just to go and talk to people
Speaker 4: because it's so refreshing to just be around people who
Speaker 4: are just so openly accepting of their kinks and other
Speaker 4: people and seeing seeing was fine, but seeing people bring
Speaker 4: even their partners like and that's what I even loved
Speaker 4: about going to Hito when we went, like talking to
Speaker 4: a married couple who brought condoms, and the man was like,
Speaker 4: and these ain't for me, these.
Speaker 2: Are if she wants to have fun.
Speaker 4: Like, I love to know that there are people that
Speaker 4: are literally living in whatever truth that they've created for
Speaker 4: them that makes them happy, that removes all of the
Speaker 4: stigma that fucking society has.
Speaker 6: There's there's a screenshot someone told me that I'm not Oh,
Speaker 6: that's not love weezy like the relationship I'm in. And
Speaker 6: I read this comment from this week's episode. So many
Speaker 6: cis hetero people live in extreme contradictions, cheating but judging
Speaker 6: open relationships, don't get tested, but have hello raw sex yep,
Speaker 6: don't believe in abortions, but don't take care of their
Speaker 6: kids or do any form of due diligence on selecting
Speaker 6: the right partner.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: And that to me is so important because you don't
Speaker 6: believe in abortions, but you're having a baby with someone
Speaker 6: that you don't really give a fuck about, and you're
Speaker 6: bringing a gun.
Speaker 4: To me, it's the fucking everybody raw and not getting
Speaker 4: tested judging sex workers who get tested like damn near
Speaker 4: every nine days.
Speaker 6: So and that's really why I chose today to talk
Speaker 6: about so much about active parenthood, because Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 6: to think of something else. I wanted to talk to
Speaker 6: you about Vanilla Ship. No, something about you that I was
Speaker 6: trying to follo. Oh what was the follow up? What's
Speaker 6: been the follow up from from the couple? Have you
Speaker 6: spoken to them for what?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: They got to get the ship together?
Speaker 6: Oh so they haven't even like that was that's all
Speaker 6: I wanted to know. They had like a picture nothing yet?
Speaker 4: Well no, I also was like I don't. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I still follow Yeah that's been happening.
Speaker 1: Uh just any light conbo there? Yeah, no, anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: Solla ship.
Speaker 6: This one is gets a little dark, but a great
Speaker 6: topic to talk about, and we often don't really talk
Speaker 6: about the R word. Trigger warning if you want to
Speaker 6: skip a few minutes. We'll put it in the description
Speaker 6: of this bio. What part you don't have to hear
Speaker 6: about what our word stuff? So our word is rape?
Speaker 3: What are you you know?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 4: Although in trouble for the other R word, she had
Speaker 4: to change the whole Goddamn.
Speaker 1: I really feel like I had to.
Speaker 4: Why that show? You don't think they know what the
Speaker 4: R word is anyway? NPR dot Org.
Speaker 6: There is a new law happened around July, but you're
Speaker 6: just getting around to talking about it now. In Louisiana,
Speaker 6: there is a surgical castration law. It is the first
Speaker 6: state to allow, if you don't know what that means,
Speaker 6: your dick to be cut off as a punishment for
Speaker 6: sex crimes under a new law with a Republican governor,
Speaker 6: which this to me, is kind of crazy because I
Speaker 6: feel like victims of rape aren't normally protected enough by
Speaker 6: Republicans to me, not from what I've been reading, but
Speaker 6: especially with abortune and making them have the kids. So
Speaker 6: it's kind of ironic that a Republican governor is doing this.
Speaker 6: But whatever, he's allowing judges to order people found guilty
Speaker 6: of certain sex crimes against Myerner to undergo a christ So.
Speaker 2: It's specific to pedophilia, yes, okay.
Speaker 6: So the use of the castration as a punishment is
Speaker 6: a permanent US procedure that will remove the testicles or
Speaker 6: the ovaries to stop the production of sex hormones.
Speaker 1: It is actually very rare around the world.
Speaker 2: Check public.
Speaker 6: Madagascar and Nigeria have some laws on the books about it.
Speaker 6: I also have these new braces. I shouldn't have been
Speaker 6: reading an article. Several states, including Louisiana, have allowed for
Speaker 6: chemical castration with pharmaceutical drugs to push down these sex
Speaker 6: offenders drive. I didn't even know that, okay, but it's
Speaker 6: grabbing headlines because it's raising concerns around ethics and constitutionality
Speaker 6: of the law over whether the punishment.
Speaker 1: Would actually make a difference.
Speaker 6: That made me too, mainly because any friend of mine,
Speaker 6: I never had something happen to me when I was
Speaker 6: a kid, but a lot of them was touching.
Speaker 1: It wasn't entrgue with a penis.
Speaker 6: They got touched by an uncle, they got touched by
Speaker 6: a cousin, or even one of the people I know
Speaker 6: their father and it wasn't full on sex, but it
Speaker 6: was touching. So there are e but so that's the thing.
Speaker 6: But that's why it's a testical excuse me because of producing.
Speaker 4: So that's why I think when you discuss the R
Speaker 4: word and the R word kid, that's why that's why
Speaker 4: semen semen is involved in all of that, like because
Speaker 4: it does include that part of the sex act so
Speaker 4: to me. To me though, in terms of it being
Speaker 4: a punishment, I think the the psychology around what even
Speaker 4: we talk about in terms of sex and what people
Speaker 4: get off on. If this person is no longer having
Speaker 4: the desire need to explode, which is how we know
Speaker 4: a lot of men get there, you know, and they're
Speaker 4: what they look like, you know, what they enjoy, I
Speaker 4: think it could lead to maybe people going to more
Speaker 4: extremes like sodomy or using different tools or different things,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like what fucking.
Speaker 2: Who's the nick that I just watched? Who's the uh
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy?
Speaker 4: Like the way that you have a you you, I
Speaker 4: think that it could lead to you having a different
Speaker 4: type of mind to where you will get off for
Speaker 4: maybe things if you have the sick mind to force
Speaker 4: yourself on a child, or force your up into an
Speaker 4: individual that is not consenting. I think if that gets
Speaker 4: taken away, your mind can become more deserved, more disturbed
Speaker 4: to you taking advantage of people in other ways, well,
Speaker 4: let me mean it could be sick age.
Speaker 6: So this is rape, incest, and molestation under thirteen. The
Speaker 6: punishment is on the judge discretion. Now you can refuse it,
Speaker 6: and if you refuse it, you have another three to
Speaker 6: five years of additional prison sentence without getting our early.
Speaker 6: The law doesn't allow anyone under seventeen to receive that punishment.
Speaker 6: The rep said they were inspired to propose the bill
Speaker 6: after seeing a disturbing article about a fifty one year
Speaker 6: old man who was arrested for raping a twelve year
Speaker 6: old and the story revealed he was already a registered
Speaker 6: sex offender and he raped a five year old and
Speaker 6: O seven and she believes that there wasn't a strong
Speaker 6: enough law to stop it and believes that forcing that
Speaker 6: procedure could have saved that person. And also raping a
Speaker 6: five year old is such a cruel and unusual punishment.
Speaker 6: He later did it to a twelve year old, which
Speaker 6: is a lot older.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: It made me think a lot, because, to be honest,
Speaker 6: if it's my kid, do it. But that's also how
Speaker 6: I'm feeling in that moment. So I wondered if there
Speaker 6: could be another layer, and I actually think the layer.
Speaker 1: Should be incess.
Speaker 4: I think pedophilia is a sickness that would be like
Speaker 4: I guess autism. There's like so with autism, there's no medicaid,
Speaker 4: like you're living with autism. I think that if your brain, girl,
Speaker 4: know you did no let me finish, let me get here,
Speaker 4: If your brain puts you to where you feel like
Speaker 4: pedophilia like you can't control it. I think that if
Speaker 4: because it's a crime, that you should be in jail
Speaker 4: forever a five year old, I think you there shouldn't
Speaker 4: be a time that you get out. I think that
Speaker 4: because in your mind, you did nothing wrong. And I
Speaker 4: don't think that there's rehabilitation for.
Speaker 1: Pedophil Let me take that.
Speaker 4: I think that it's a sickness that we've made it
Speaker 4: also into a crime. So I don't think that they
Speaker 4: should be out in the open. I think that they
Speaker 4: need to be locked away. Not that there's anything wrong
Speaker 4: with I.
Speaker 2: Want to be sure. I draw that parallel what I'm saying. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Let me.
Speaker 4: Let me make it to where it's a sickness that
Speaker 4: a crime is attached to it that I don't think
Speaker 4: that you rehabilitate out of because I think that there's
Speaker 4: literally something just unbalanced, and.
Speaker 1: I want to because they can't put them in jail.
Speaker 1: I agree, even a five year old, you got to
Speaker 1: go to jail for life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's jail for life. You don't get out, and
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Or I'm cool with I
Speaker 4: would be cool, I would be more little with. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would be cool with the death on it because
Speaker 4: the trauma that a you put onto that child four life,
Speaker 4: but be the fact that you were probably more likely
Speaker 4: to do it again to another child.
Speaker 2: Noah, bra you got it. You gotta die.
Speaker 6: From five to ten, like then it's twelve. All of
Speaker 6: us are having trauma. And I say that to say, like,
Speaker 6: are we going to kill everybody? Because we are looking
Speaker 6: at five.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about sexual we're talking about rape right now.
Speaker 4: I know we are, and that that was strong so
Speaker 4: to me, yes, any age, but that law specifically was
Speaker 4: for under twelve. I will say for under twelve killed him, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I don't see how a grown man twenty eight plus
Speaker 4: one could even find a way to where that would be.
Speaker 1: Okay, dude.
Speaker 6: I had a conversation with a man recently where I
Speaker 6: told him about someone I know who's lost their virginity
Speaker 6: to their dad, and he said, I think I dated
Speaker 6: three girls that's father had sex with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's in his forties. And he was like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like.
Speaker 4: I mean, I talked about it, like that's why my
Speaker 4: uncle is deported. Bro, when did did ten years and
Speaker 4: then got deported?
Speaker 1: Do you know how close?
Speaker 2: And I don't think he would be our family too.
Speaker 2: I don't think he should be out there.
Speaker 6: There's literally every like this is so fucking normal, Like
Speaker 6: I remember this reaction. Maybe maybe I talked about it
Speaker 6: in the book, but that my mom had to someone
Speaker 6: taking me to a toy store.
Speaker 3: Did I talk about it?
Speaker 2: You talked about it on the pod?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the way that my mom ran out the
Speaker 6: house or no shoes on, fucking ran after the car,
Speaker 6: tried to pull open the car door.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why can't.
Speaker 4: I man talking about this all the time. The fact
Speaker 4: that we all have normalized having a creepy uncle. It's
Speaker 4: fucking weird, Like I think the way this is but
Speaker 4: the yeah, but the way that ain't nobody checking these
Speaker 4: niggas like y'all should be disgusted and call these motherfuckers out.
Speaker 2: Why do they keep coming to the barbecue? Why the fuck?
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's your brother Monday, Like, why
Speaker 4: do they keep coming around if you know that they
Speaker 4: have any sort of weirdo creepy ass shitls No, Like,
Speaker 4: why the fuck are they even still being invited around?
Speaker 2: Why are they not being checked? It's disgusting speaking of it.
Speaker 6: Remember the woman who tried to shoot her husband's dick
Speaker 6: off in DC and she's in jail for the daycare.
Speaker 4: For the daycare. Yeah, it's disgusting. Shit nasty out here, bruh.
Speaker 6: Anyway, So yeah, sorry for the trigger warning.
Speaker 2: Hope y'all.
Speaker 1: No, but I mean and most of the time, I vannello.
Speaker 6: Shit is fun. But I mean I do feel like
Speaker 6: sex and the news that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: YEAHNT talk about that one for the hohod dirve. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you right now. It's a braceist tip. The only
Speaker 1: one I got this shit is tough.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you spit more. Oh yeah, you probably could.
Speaker 2: Slap your head.
Speaker 6: So the issue with sucond dick is when you put
Speaker 6: your lips around your teeth, like he can't feel the
Speaker 6: braces right, So the problem isn't for him.
Speaker 1: He don't need to be scared.
Speaker 6: I need to be scared because now the braces are
Speaker 6: rubbing the inside of my che of your gums. So
Speaker 6: the braceist tip I have is literally wax around the teeth.
Speaker 6: They sell this orthodon hiss wax uhuh. But for anyone
Speaker 6: when in Visilin, I know a lot of people do
Speaker 6: other orthrow work where your gums are actually sore. There's
Speaker 6: this thing that starts with a pee sore gum's mouth wash.
Speaker 1: You do that before you suck a dick. Girl, you
Speaker 1: don't feel okay, you have to.
Speaker 6: Leave it in your mouth for two minutes and as
Speaker 6: some ingredient would be, you'll figure out when you go
Speaker 6: to the story there's only like one sore mouth gum thing.
Speaker 6: When you switch it around, literally you don't feel anything
Speaker 6: and then you start drooling.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna tell you. You said there's only one
Speaker 4: sore mouth numb thing whatever. Not sure if it's edible, well, baby,
Speaker 4: I don't have had uh. The one that makes the
Speaker 4: no no, no, no no no, the one that's supposed to
Speaker 4: numb your booty off, fra.
Speaker 2: Baby, that ship gets your mouth.
Speaker 4: You're not feeling shitbe I did a little at.
Speaker 6: M and I sucked a little disgusting baby.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I'm stuck the dickstraight and mind you,
Speaker 4: I got the pain, I got the numbing lube in
Speaker 4: my ass, not thinking anything of it. Baby, when I
Speaker 4: tell you, I'm I couldn't even bitch. I felt like
Speaker 4: my tongue was gone. I felt like everything was out
Speaker 4: my mouth. Bitch, that's another option, bitch. I was like, girl,
Speaker 4: there my pumpmit. I couldn't talk. Shit was crazy. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, fuck, I don't fucked up now. Well, well,
Speaker 4: well well say.
Speaker 1: That to say, uh, yeah, so you've used.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, and it works like you don't.
Speaker 6: Oh, I haven't got to suck a dick yet. I've
Speaker 6: been practicing on bananas and cucumbers.
Speaker 3: Oh you haven't sucked his dick yet since.
Speaker 1: No, unfortunately, I haven't had time.
Speaker 6: But not you given a tip without No, I'm practicing
Speaker 6: M seriously, and I've been collecting data and apparently wax
Speaker 6: is the only thing, and I tried the sor numb THINGA.
Speaker 2: I love, you can leave it. I'm not about to
Speaker 2: hurt my factor.
Speaker 4: No, but I only love what you just said because
Speaker 4: this goes into the horrible decision and some.
Speaker 1: Takes that I have collecting data.
Speaker 4: No, the fact that you collected data but you're inexperienced
Speaker 4: because you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 5: That you're giving advice.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean here's the thing.
Speaker 6: We didn't have enough time for me to tell y'all
Speaker 6: my first dick sucking story before we got in the studio,
Speaker 6: But I really wanted to give that tip because you
Speaker 6: have to actually look at tips up before you try it. Like,
Speaker 6: there's so many ways to hurt yourself now that you
Speaker 6: have this thing right, Like literally, I'm going back to
Speaker 6: Thailand and I want to go to reggae bar, and
Speaker 6: reggae bar is a place where you fight for a
Speaker 6: free drink. And I was like, well, I want to
Speaker 6: beat some whole up and give my lotle aggression out.
Speaker 4: And you have braces, I know, bitch, that's a weapon mine.
Speaker 4: I can slip my hole and now we're fighting with blood.
Speaker 6: No, Like literally, when I was fighting the girl. My
Speaker 6: septum ring was new, and I was like, why am
Speaker 6: I leaking? If she didn't hit my face? It was
Speaker 6: just the helmet going around.
Speaker 2: Just the bitch.
Speaker 4: I ain't even doing that no more because bit ch'all
Speaker 4: told you when I got in that fight at Impanatamma.
Speaker 4: The first thing I said, bitch, I don't want to
Speaker 4: have to go back to Columbia.
Speaker 2: Still there.
Speaker 1: Oh that's Florida again.
Speaker 6: But no, the brace. I can't fight because I have
Speaker 6: fucking braces. It's gonna fucking make it cut.
Speaker 1: Up my mouth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, bitch, you're gonna be leaking blood, gonna be
Speaker 2: heavy where you're gonna look like you lost.
Speaker 6: So I love that you brought that up because like her,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, that's a good one. So a
Speaker 6: few weeks ago, this interview comes out with cam New
Speaker 6: and doctor Bryant, and there's been so many opinions on it,
Speaker 6: and there was for me watching it, there were so
Speaker 6: many where I disagreed with him and agreed with him,
Speaker 6: disagreed with her, agreed with him.
Speaker 4: By the way, our audience specifically, we had a town
Speaker 4: hall a couple months ago and they didn't want to
Speaker 4: talk about like this specifically.
Speaker 2: So I want you all to know we're pulling topics
Speaker 2: from this. We're not going to dissect one person didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was a lot.
Speaker 2: I was on this thing.
Speaker 1: It don't matter.
Speaker 2: I wait, wait, but you didn't let me finish. We're
Speaker 2: not going to.
Speaker 4: Talk specifically to a cam Newton or a doctor Brian
Speaker 4: as much as we're going to talk about the themes
Speaker 4: around the conversation and what was brought up in a
Speaker 4: general census.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 6: I don't care what y'all want to talk about. At
Speaker 6: the end of the day, it's my god damn show.
Speaker 6: So when I make the mother fucking outline, that's what.
Speaker 1: We're talking about. Shit.
Speaker 6: Anyway, point is the reason this conversation is really important
Speaker 6: to me is because I am finding that I'm seeing
Speaker 6: a lot of celebration around taking care of your kids
Speaker 6: when it comes to men with money. And I don't
Speaker 6: have a dog in the spighte as far as an
Speaker 6: absentee father, but I know from dating and from having
Speaker 6: very close friends, and even from my own mother what
Speaker 6: it's been like to have an inactive father, and even
Speaker 6: conversations for the last eight years on this PODU and
Speaker 6: even before we were podcasting things, she would tell me
Speaker 6: about your dad and I was literally thinking, this is
Speaker 6: a great conversation out with Mandy, because I can't imagine
Speaker 6: how you feel hearing shit like this. So doctor Bryant,
Speaker 6: who is a relationship coach, she's a woman that went recently,
Speaker 6: had conversations recently with Nick Cannon and Cam Newton about
Speaker 6: them bringing kids into the world. And one specific conversation
Speaker 6: that really struck a chord for me was her conversation
Speaker 6: with Cam Newton and having more children but not getting married.
Speaker 3: So I'm not married, right, I have beautiful children. How
Speaker 3: many eight.
Speaker 1: I was at that I didn't do my research.
Speaker 2: I that was four, but eight?
Speaker 1: Okay, how many women?
Speaker 3: Three? And this is the kicker. I want more.
Speaker 2: Now by multiple women.
Speaker 1: What's the intent by your wife?
Speaker 3: I just want God to bring them. Oh and you
Speaker 3: have so you just because.
Speaker 9: My point is this, my desire to get married is
Speaker 9: lower than my fear of divorce. So as you had said,
Speaker 9: Doctor Brian, you said it, I said, I will agree.
Speaker 8: I'm just taking my time, but you will And I
Speaker 8: say this with all respect and love. What I'm about
Speaker 8: to say, next, Okay, Cam, but you will selfishly create
Speaker 8: broken families even if you're in their life and you're
Speaker 8: a proactive father, and I believe you're an amazing daddy.
Speaker 8: I can only imagine with just your presence and knowing
Speaker 8: you thus far. But these families are still broken. Every
Speaker 8: child cannot have Papa in the house with them, so
Speaker 8: some child, if not all, all will end up with
Speaker 8: some kind of deficit without daddy being there.
Speaker 6: Nick Cannon has seven hundred and fifty children and no
Speaker 6: wife right now and claims.
Speaker 1: To be a great dad.
Speaker 6: Can you be a great dad with having so many
Speaker 6: different relationships with women now, Doctor Bryant, The woman said
Speaker 6: you can't because you're creating broken homes. I completely agree
Speaker 6: with that sentiment. On the contrary, when I started having
Speaker 6: this conversation with a friend of mine, she's like, girl,
Speaker 6: my husband is here every day and don't do nothing.
Speaker 2: With these kids. Yeah, I disagree with that.
Speaker 4: You disagree with what the same way I think that
Speaker 4: someone can be an awful partner and a great dad
Speaker 4: is the same way I feel like.
Speaker 6: It like.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.
Speaker 4: So when I saw, first off, I don't think anyone
Speaker 4: is a good parent. That's where I want to start.
Speaker 4: And I say that because a lot of times people
Speaker 4: become parents for the first time, even when they have
Speaker 4: multiple kids, they become their they course correct from maybe
Speaker 4: what they felt.
Speaker 2: Like they did with your parents for the first people.
Speaker 4: Well, parents are always normal people, but being a parent
Speaker 4: is hard to teach. Mind you, a lot of people
Speaker 4: have the traumas for maybe how their parents failed. So
Speaker 4: the same way, I feel like I'm kind of dating
Speaker 4: by knowing what I don't want. A lot of people
Speaker 4: who are parents are literally trying to be who their
Speaker 4: parents weren't without any idea of the right way to
Speaker 4: do something. They only know what they think is the
Speaker 4: right way to do something. But there's so many things involved.
Speaker 4: There's the economics of things. Then there's the kind of
Speaker 4: line between not giving your child enough lover or attention.
Speaker 1: And then spoiling.
Speaker 4: Like there's these like weird lines that if you go
Speaker 4: two parts to the left, they feel like you don't
Speaker 4: love them enough.
Speaker 2: But then if you spoil a child, there.
Speaker 4: Becomes resentment and you hovering over them, or as soon
Speaker 4: as they leave the house now they feel like they
Speaker 4: can be free. So I feel like, because we're dealing
Speaker 4: with humans.
Speaker 2: As the children.
Speaker 4: I think, mind you, you have also all the outside
Speaker 4: forces where you can't protect them when they're at school
Speaker 4: or when they're at their friend's house. I think this
Speaker 4: idea of a good parent is one of those it's
Speaker 4: literally aligned with a perfect man or a perfect woman.
Speaker 4: It doesn't exist. And so I think that the way
Speaker 4: that we believe that you can be a good parent,
Speaker 4: I think it's so subjective that I don't think it exists,
Speaker 4: and I think that someone's always gonna fall short.
Speaker 6: What is a So to answer that question, I asked Instagram,
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna read some of their answers what an
Speaker 6: active parent looks like. So the reason I said that
Speaker 6: is because good dad, bad dad? Fine, you paid for everything,
Speaker 6: Sure you're a good dad in your head, but active parents.
Speaker 6: Can you really be an active parent if you're not
Speaker 6: with that person. Again, to doctor Brian's point with creating
Speaker 6: broken homes, I say this to say.
Speaker 2: Most success, do you define an active parent?
Speaker 1: That's the thing. There is no definition.
Speaker 6: So I was gonna say I say this to say
Speaker 6: no one's answer is this to me, I think my
Speaker 6: dad was an active parent because we got to do
Speaker 6: something every weekend together. Now, my dad literally worked six
Speaker 6: days a week. That to me was active. And I
Speaker 6: guess if my dad didn't live in my home. My
Speaker 6: parents are still married. I grew up with a father
Speaker 6: in the house. Maybe my dad would have had me
Speaker 6: any weekend everywhere like anyway, so maybe he would have
Speaker 6: always been an active parent in my head. Now, everybody
Speaker 6: has a different answer. I'm gonna read some of those,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna say this, I don't know if there's
Speaker 6: a way that Nick Cannon or Cam Newton can be
Speaker 6: active parents to eight children, mainly because busy lifestyle. You
Speaker 6: don't live in the same city as all of these kids.
Speaker 6: How fucking active can you be? At least to me,
Speaker 6: baseline of an active parent if you don't live in
Speaker 6: the same house or city, you should still know them teachers' names,
Speaker 6: you should still know the academy of your own kid,
Speaker 6: what their problems are, who their friends are. You should
Speaker 6: be engaging with them daily. How can you engage with
Speaker 6: eight children daily?
Speaker 4: I mean niggas can engage eight women daily. I did
Speaker 4: want to say that, No, there is a baseline online.
Speaker 4: An active parent is someone who is involved in their
Speaker 4: child's life. An takes an active role in their growth
Speaker 4: and development. So there's four bullet points for this. Being proactive,
Speaker 4: so teaching values and being a role model. Again, where
Speaker 4: I feel like people being a role model is where
Speaker 4: it's hard, communicating openly, setting clear expectations and boundaries, being present,
Speaker 4: so participating in activities together, and showing interests in a
Speaker 4: children's interest, and then providing positive reinforcement, which is encouraging
Speaker 4: good behavior. So in those even just four bullet points
Speaker 4: of something, I think those are hard for people who
Speaker 4: even aren't parents to do in friendships, to do in relationships.
Speaker 4: So that's where I feel like being active as a
Speaker 4: human being is difficult, let alone with someone who is
Speaker 4: developing as a human being themselves.
Speaker 2: I think those things are hard.
Speaker 6: I think it's hard, but I think that the main
Speaker 6: thing is Sorry, I'm just trying to find where I
Speaker 6: screenshot all this and I want to.
Speaker 4: Bring a point to So I was raised in a
Speaker 4: single parent household, and to be fair, where society and
Speaker 4: all of these places put emphasis on men to financially provide. Again,
Speaker 4: the conversations around fifty to fifty dates, who pays for
Speaker 4: a first date? Unfortunately for fathers or men within the household.
Speaker 4: Provision is a big thing. Providing is a big thing.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of men who feel as though, well,
Speaker 4: none of my child support payments was late. So I
Speaker 4: did what I was supposed to do as a dad.
Speaker 4: And let's be very clear, that's where I kind of
Speaker 4: found an issue in becoming an adult. Like my dad
Speaker 4: now feels like I owe him as an adult because
Speaker 4: he took care of me as a child, because he
Speaker 4: paid his child support payments. Next, he feels like he
Speaker 4: is old now because he did right by his child support.
Speaker 4: Mind you, didn't speak to us for a year, made
Speaker 4: us all go through DNA tests because my mom needed
Speaker 4: more financially. Mind you, that's the only thing you gotta do.
Speaker 4: Because literally, in the book I'm writing, I can't remember
Speaker 4: one basketball game he showed up to.
Speaker 2: Can't remember one inner mirror game, can't remember that SoC game.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: No, for a lot of people in the way they
Speaker 4: could compare it, I saw him maybe every other weekend.
Speaker 4: And when it came to school supplies, when it came
Speaker 4: to Christmases, when it came to birthdays, when it came
Speaker 4: to up showing on my mom. Oh, he came in
Speaker 4: all the electronics. Oh your mom got you.
Speaker 2: That for Christmas? Look what daddy got you?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me know question so to me?
Speaker 2: So again song every other weekend for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you guys do?
Speaker 4: And then he called, and then my and then my
Speaker 4: sister who wasn't his. He took in until he didn't
Speaker 4: want to pay more money than it became a whole
Speaker 4: little thing.
Speaker 1: So you spend time with your dad every other weekend.
Speaker 2: And I don't know my white family.
Speaker 4: So whenever I was with my family, it was with
Speaker 4: my Jamaican side, so I know all my aunties, all
Speaker 4: my uncles. We were always with my Jamaica family. So
Speaker 4: that was the only family I had, was them growing
Speaker 4: up edd And.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up with both parents in the house?
Speaker 3: I did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you how douse?
Speaker 6: I know you and your daughter are super close now,
Speaker 6: Like how often did you see your dad?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 7: If my memory serves me, probably like probably similar to
Speaker 7: Mandy's in certain cases did.
Speaker 1: That some weekends?
Speaker 7: I felt like the time we spent with each other
Speaker 7: was really quality time that made it enough, Like I
Speaker 7: would say mine was different.
Speaker 1: Oh That's why I asked you, what were you guys doing.
Speaker 4: We were hanging with his girlfriends. His girlfriends baked us cookies,
Speaker 4: his girlfriends took us to them. All his girlfriends. His
Speaker 4: girlfriends always were great, Like there was Jennifer, one, two,
Speaker 4: and three, there was there were all and we knew
Speaker 4: all the names. And we hung out with the other
Speaker 4: women in his life and they were great.
Speaker 1: So he didn't make your time my dad.
Speaker 4: But but because I met my grandmother just being Jamaican, like,
Speaker 4: he was just very He worked, He worked hard, and
Speaker 4: he provided. That's what he knew what to do as
Speaker 4: a like as a Jamaican, he worked hard. He could
Speaker 4: cook his ass off, and when he was around, it
Speaker 4: was like, yo, I need give me my time. I'm
Speaker 4: drinking my fucking my beer, I'm smoking, I'm I'm off
Speaker 4: from work because he worked so fucking much.
Speaker 1: Now I want to ask you all this.
Speaker 6: So I made an Instagram story asking people to tell
Speaker 6: me what an active parent look like.
Speaker 1: I then ask.
Speaker 6: People, Hey, if your baby mama and you break up
Speaker 6: whatever and she moves to another city, let it be work.
Speaker 6: How often is seeing your kid? Does it make you
Speaker 6: an active parent? Because sometimes it's not by the choice
Speaker 6: of the father, right and I want to give men
Speaker 6: some grace with that, because a lot of women do move.
Speaker 1: Maybe they weaponize, yep, they had a painful breakup.
Speaker 6: Maybe they just are like completely like I got to
Speaker 6: remove myself from this in that instance, and especially income
Speaker 6: because it's not just paying anymore, it's flying there. How
Speaker 6: often do you think you'd need to see that kid
Speaker 6: for them to be active enough?
Speaker 2: Again, I think it's subjective.
Speaker 4: I mean, and to be clear, I think that when
Speaker 4: a parent is not in the household all the time, again,
Speaker 4: I don't think you truly know how to be a parent.
Speaker 4: Like so when we moved to Atlanta when I was
Speaker 4: in high school, my dad never came to Atlanta to
Speaker 4: see us, but I came down to Orlando spend a summer,
Speaker 4: and bitch ended up pregnant because he wasn't around.
Speaker 2: We was able to do Bitch, we went to Tampa.
Speaker 4: We was bitch ill was at your house more than
Speaker 4: I saw my dad that summer.
Speaker 2: So I think.
Speaker 1: They're not jewel fucked up.
Speaker 2: No, But to me, I think like that word.
Speaker 4: I don't want to lean on active because I think
Speaker 4: it looks differently and I think it shows up with
Speaker 4: you an adult, but different.
Speaker 6: I think that's the thing though, That's the conversation we're having, right.
Speaker 6: It's like, I want to at least talk about active
Speaker 6: because you and I both have friends with children.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're married, maybe they're they're in long term relationships,
Speaker 1: or maybe they're single.
Speaker 6: And I keep seeing this reoccurring theme of one with
Speaker 6: my closest friend, her daughter's about fifteen, that nigga don't
Speaker 6: spend money and he gets his daughter every summer. No
Speaker 6: money really goes there, right, he's on child's forty, never
Speaker 6: sent shit. So I'm just wondering, like, what is truly enough?
Speaker 6: So I'll read some of these comments from people so
Speaker 6: you can get an idea. So one woman says, an
Speaker 6: active father is present to the point where my kid
Speaker 6: can call him and he's either their asap or emotionally
Speaker 6: or physically. When my daughter calls her father, he lives
Speaker 6: seven hours away, he's made his way down to Orlando
Speaker 6: if he needs to show up, and or we'll sit
Speaker 6: on FaceTime with her to help her through emotionally. Another
Speaker 6: person said, if you can't do the same activities or
Speaker 6: large events like the mom is, you're not an active dad.
Speaker 6: Why is my father not there for graduation or a birthday.
Speaker 6: To me, that makes no sense. Another person says, mine
Speaker 6: is a very difficult one. My baby father is in
Speaker 6: the military, so he can't even get on the phone
Speaker 6: with my kid every day. However, he is doing enough
Speaker 6: to spend quality moments, interactions, and time.
Speaker 1: Like Wolfe said, long letters, photos, very detailed memories.
Speaker 6: He is doing enough to make an impact and an
Speaker 6: imprint on her life. He even sends gifts that she'll
Speaker 6: randomly receive. Fathers who bond with their children. For the
Speaker 6: most part, I would say ninety percent of people said
Speaker 6: showing up for lifetime major events.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy. My dad showed up to our
Speaker 4: graduations and our birthday.
Speaker 1: You even just said I don't remember him at a
Speaker 1: basketball game.
Speaker 2: Not a basketball game, but major. But again subjective.
Speaker 4: He may not have thought that meant anything to me,
Speaker 4: but he showed up to all of our graduations, my
Speaker 4: school dances, all the things that maybe he considered large events.
Speaker 2: And don't think that that was him being active.
Speaker 1: You don't think him showing up was I think you
Speaker 1: just want more.
Speaker 4: Well that and that's why I think all of this
Speaker 4: is subjective. Because even that first thing you wrote a
Speaker 4: man to be to open up emotionally or or cope
Speaker 4: with my daughter's children's emotions. That is such a hard
Speaker 4: thing for a man to do in a romantic relationship
Speaker 4: as an adult.
Speaker 2: So also the things that we require these men to
Speaker 2: show up as his parents, then niggas don't even know
Speaker 2: how to do with us.
Speaker 6: Well, listen to this one about providing. I did a
Speaker 6: poll I said, does money make you an active parent?
Speaker 6: Four thousand people voted eighty seven percent.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: People do not believe providing is active. I then had
Speaker 6: someone right, this one was interesting. Please keep this anonymous.
Speaker 1: Weezy.
Speaker 6: My father is the CEO of a fortune five hundred company.
Speaker 6: I would literally have given back all of the expensive
Speaker 6: things he ever bought me just to have had some
Speaker 6: fun moments with him, a theme park, anything. I literally
Speaker 6: never did anything fun with my dad because he was
Speaker 6: so busy on making money, being popular and rich and
Speaker 6: making sure he could say he was providing for his family.
Speaker 6: I grew so much resentment when he got married again
Speaker 6: because he got to have another who I'm sure got
Speaker 6: more of him. Another dude wrote me. I then wrote
Speaker 6: and said, fathers, can you tell me where you fucked up?
Speaker 6: This dude said, since me and my baby mother have
Speaker 6: so much more bitterness toward each other, literally, it becomes
Speaker 6: a hostage negotiation to see my fucking kid. In most cases,
Speaker 6: I can only be as active as her mom will
Speaker 6: allow me to. And I know my daughter's gonna grow
Speaker 6: up thinking I didn't give a fuck about her. There's
Speaker 6: even moments when I do see her and I'm so
Speaker 6: angry from having a ten second interaction with her mom
Speaker 6: that I can't even be present anymore. I believe that
Speaker 6: what you sorry, I believe that what you posted about
Speaker 6: Nick Cannon and Cam Newton not being active is totally correct.
Speaker 6: They are beginning relationships with their children while having no
Speaker 6: relationships with their mother. Having children with good women is
Speaker 6: not a good choice for your child. It's a bad
Speaker 6: choice for you and a bad choice for their future.
Speaker 6: That one I love because Cam Newton literally said something like, oh, well,
Speaker 6: these women are high functioning or whatever because they want
Speaker 6: to have kids, like I'm choosing baby mamas, And I
Speaker 6: do think that's bullshit, Like rich niggas having a bunch
Speaker 6: of kids is bullshit.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna tell me Father's Day.
Speaker 6: Your kid wants to fucking see you, and Nick Cannon
Speaker 6: can be eight places and give them all the fucking love.
Speaker 6: And even if they're all in one place, Mandy and
Speaker 6: he had to rent a goddamn event hall to fit
Speaker 6: all the kids, it's still not enough.
Speaker 2: I am doing too much.
Speaker 4: But I'm also going to blame the patriarchy here and
Speaker 4: for what women are putting as a necessary need. Like
Speaker 4: I said, a lot of our conversations are how much
Speaker 4: money do you have?
Speaker 2: What can you do for me?
Speaker 4: We're pushing the narrative that a man's value is based
Speaker 4: on how heavy his pockets are.
Speaker 2: A lot of the time.
Speaker 4: And so if we're doing that in dating, if we're
Speaker 4: doing that in choosing a partner, where they feel like
Speaker 4: my value comes with my money, and so when they
Speaker 4: feel like their money is what matters to their children,
Speaker 4: to their families, to the women they date, that's why
Speaker 4: so many of them are gonna believe like, well, I
Speaker 4: did what I'll supposed to do. I made the money,
Speaker 4: you got paid.
Speaker 2: I told you. That's where my dad feels like, that's
Speaker 2: where my dad showed up.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, now as an adult and hearing my mom, no,
Speaker 4: it doesn't it's not all it takes. However, society is
Speaker 4: pushing the envelope that a man's value is based on
Speaker 4: how much money and what he can provide and how
Speaker 4: he provides it, and that unfortunately they don't know in
Speaker 4: what other ways they should be or have to show up.
Speaker 4: And it reminds me of the conversation where it's like, damn, y'all,
Speaker 4: just keep moving the goal post. Now I'm paying all
Speaker 4: the bills, but now I need to be an ear
Speaker 4: for you to listen. Now I need to be emotionally sound,
Speaker 4: and men are like, Damn, I thought all I had
Speaker 4: to do was make money, because that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: I just I thought I had to be a provider.
Speaker 4: Now you want me to be an emotional creature. You
Speaker 4: want me to show those things to you.
Speaker 2: Damn, I got to catch up. I don't know how
Speaker 2: to do that yet, dude.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I think this is why we need more content
Speaker 6: surrounding fatherhood. And that's why I love DDG, who's the
Speaker 6: new Oh John Queeze. They said, Damn he coming for
Speaker 6: DDG because he was like, oh, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 6: happy to be around this baby or you know, and
Speaker 6: I know that's your and I loved seeing that I
Speaker 6: think he posted like I don't know how y'all be
Speaker 6: doing nothing or whatever he said, and people were coming like,
Speaker 6: oh wait till you get to this year, and it's like,
Speaker 6: God damn, let that nigga be fucking excited bro to
Speaker 6: change a diaper, to be happy about being a dad
Speaker 6: for the first time.
Speaker 1: I love seeing people.
Speaker 4: I think he has to do it what his ex leaked,
Speaker 4: because he made it seem like having a baby with
Speaker 4: someone doesn't mean you're a family with them, and so
Speaker 4: I think that's the other thing, like I don't know
Speaker 4: what strong an. So they were, Yeah, there was beef
Speaker 4: and dramas, so I think whatever the response was no,
Speaker 4: like we could be happy for someone, but if shit
Speaker 4: then came out like people gonna be a little little
Speaker 4: you know. I know, I'm open for the best with
Speaker 4: their happiness. But there was a text message that got
Speaker 4: leaked where he was like, yeah, well, having a baby
Speaker 4: with a woman doesn't mean you're a family and he
Speaker 4: said that to the ex, and the ex post of
Speaker 4: the screenshot while she was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know the family part. What I'm saying is I
Speaker 6: like watching him be a good dad. Actually, to me, it's.
Speaker 1: Not about me.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen him be a good dad.
Speaker 4: We saw they just had the baby, but we've seen
Speaker 4: the excitement of him becoming.
Speaker 2: A father, and I like that aspect.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna actually disagree on that one. You said we
Speaker 6: haven't seen him being a good dad. I think the
Speaker 6: baby was three days old. To me, the excitement changing
Speaker 6: a diaper, doing whatever, I feel like that, that to
Speaker 6: me is what I want to see and it would
Speaker 6: give me the idea that someone is being a good
Speaker 6: dad slash active dad. Like I think what we're seeing
Speaker 6: from DDG is specifically why someone made that joke you
Speaker 6: must be coming for him, is because he posts his
Speaker 6: kids so much, looks so excited, is laughing so much.
Speaker 6: And I don't feel like I see that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I see it with moms so much more.
Speaker 6: And I really would love to celebrate father's relationships with
Speaker 6: their kids and get to know that, even if it's
Speaker 6: from celebrities or influencers or whatever.
Speaker 1: I really don't see a lot.
Speaker 2: Of that, So you don't see it.
Speaker 4: I know that's the thing right now online is especially
Speaker 4: even with Safari and other celebrities, they go and get
Speaker 4: their kids take pictures, make it seem like they're active,
Speaker 4: and then they're not so like to me even speaking, and.
Speaker 1: What is there saying about Sahari they.
Speaker 4: Babe, you ain't got them nothing for their birthday. You
Speaker 4: don't know, you know nothing about it. You're never around
Speaker 4: and the only time you're around them, you want to
Speaker 4: take all pictures and have it in their face like
Speaker 4: you're around Gosha. So like even to me, the posting
Speaker 4: online and things like that, those to me don't mean
Speaker 4: that you're an active or a good parent like my dad.
Speaker 1: I think we're watching it though my dad's still influencing.
Speaker 4: My dad would be the loudest person at my events.
Speaker 4: My dad before I went down to Orlando last time,
Speaker 4: he was bragging. He told me how he was bragging
Speaker 4: about me. Nigg I ain't talk to you on the phone,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 1: What can a dad do?
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. We're humans.
Speaker 1: You think it's I mean to the contry.
Speaker 2: I don't think you could be a good parent period.
Speaker 2: I don't, I.
Speaker 6: Think, But I think the point is like still seeing
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, seeing men take on certain roles with their
Speaker 6: kid or spending time with their children.
Speaker 1: I think it's good to see.
Speaker 6: We don't see it, and I think like we're celebrating
Speaker 6: to this whole having a bunch of babies but taking
Speaker 6: care of them money wise. Thing like that Nick Cannon conversation,
Speaker 6: which I hate, and I do like to see activity.
Speaker 6: I think that's really influential. One of my favorite videos online.
Speaker 6: I wish I could find it. It's a nigga that
Speaker 6: just had a baby and all his homeboys are in
Speaker 6: the house. It's like a New York dude and they
Speaker 6: hold in dolls and shit with the baby. Has anybody
Speaker 6: seen this and they like, a, ah, she going to
Speaker 6: the grocery store. And it's like adorable to me because
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my god, seeing men have community. When
Speaker 6: I get all my homegirls, a gonna rush to the forefront, right,
Speaker 6: even the ones that don't have kids.
Speaker 1: That's what women do.
Speaker 6: But I just don't get to see it a lot
Speaker 6: in brotherhood or with men, and I feel like if
Speaker 6: we got to have more examples of that, it would
Speaker 6: really help show fathers that it's not just a payment,
Speaker 6: Like there's so much more contact and it's made me
Speaker 6: hate Nick Cannon. Bro Anyway, Okay, so more conversation that
Speaker 6: happened before we get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, specifically with doctor.
Speaker 6: Brian yepe is that you brought this because this is
Speaker 6: the conversation she was talking about a lot of this
Speaker 6: high functioning.
Speaker 1: I hate that high value have function to comment.
Speaker 6: But high functioning meaning emotional management, which is ironic because
Speaker 6: when I was listening, I almost felt like she ain't
Speaker 6: have it a little bit. She was getting very irritated
Speaker 6: by him bringing up her singleness. But I also think.
Speaker 4: Because that's it, it's irritating, it's irritating, but because it
Speaker 4: invalidates me as a woman, or why I can speak
Speaker 4: to what I'm speaking to.
Speaker 6: No, he was doing it. I actually think he was
Speaker 6: doing it to like pick at her because she was.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was an insult.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: So I can see her agitation because you're saying that
Speaker 4: to insult me, right, which is grid.
Speaker 1: However, we had an war on here. You had made
Speaker 1: a comment on.
Speaker 6: Oh that's why you let me get him up with
Speaker 6: I could so let me let me talk about this
Speaker 6: a relationship. Coach being single is kind of crazy. However,
Speaker 6: why I could kind of see it is because I
Speaker 6: don't know if my therapist has ever been through some
Speaker 6: of the issues I'm talking about, whether it be financially,
Speaker 6: money or whatever. But I do know there's killed enough
Speaker 6: to guide me through which I believe doctor Bryant can
Speaker 6: be right when anwar was on here, I think he's amazing.
Speaker 1: I love some of his advice. Some of it I don't.
Speaker 1: But for the most part I do. You were like, well,
Speaker 1: he's gay.
Speaker 4: Well no, so this is so let me explain my point.
Speaker 4: I do not believe that a gay male should be
Speaker 4: giving advice to heterosexual women on their relationships with men,
Speaker 4: because what a gay man has gone through in his life,
Speaker 4: how he interacts the same way. We know they act
Speaker 4: completely different with Grinder than they do on Tender.
Speaker 2: There is difference.
Speaker 4: There are a huge difference between hetero sexual relationships and
Speaker 4: homosexual relationships.
Speaker 2: One thing.
Speaker 4: Secondly, we didn't get into it. I know he is
Speaker 4: history speaking to dating online. I did not remember asking
Speaker 4: about his educational background when I don't know.
Speaker 2: What it is years, which is why doing something.
Speaker 6: For fifteen years and say has been active doing it
Speaker 6: and has literally studied it, and he talked about that.
Speaker 4: Well, I want to know the criteria well, and I
Speaker 4: say that because we can be gay.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
Speaker 2: We've had SHAMBOOTI on the podcast.
Speaker 4: Who went to school to become this because she was
Speaker 4: giving advice for years before she went to school for
Speaker 4: a sex head, right, So my and relationships, that's her
Speaker 4: and Brella. That's why she's not a full sex spert.
Speaker 4: It was definitely the mix between relationships, her dynamic. That's
Speaker 4: why she got married, That's why she went to school
Speaker 4: got it. But it's because she said she didn't feel
Speaker 4: like people took her serious without both. I don't think
Speaker 4: I can get relationship advice from a gay man who
Speaker 4: has never had a heterosexual relationship with a man.
Speaker 2: I also, again don't know his education.
Speaker 4: Lastly, doctor Bryan specifically a has two degrees and a
Speaker 4: doctorate on specific psychology, so she went.
Speaker 2: To school for it.
Speaker 1: Agree, I understand why she can coche.
Speaker 4: So the same way I believe for someone. And this
Speaker 4: is the argument I have all the time. I'm fine
Speaker 4: with Skip Bayless being commentator, speaking on the business and
Speaker 4: all this stuff of sports without having ever been an athlete.
Speaker 2: To me, Doctor Brian expresses she had four proposals.
Speaker 4: She's been in numerous relationships where she does she did
Speaker 4: admit that three of them were because she wasn't ready.
Speaker 4: So to me, she's gotten as far as being proposed
Speaker 4: to engaged, didn't go through with a full wedding.
Speaker 2: I don't see that.
Speaker 4: I don't think that it's bad for her to be
Speaker 4: current in a moment in time. She's currently single giving advice.
Speaker 4: I don't think she has to be married to give
Speaker 4: relationship advice. She's not specifically talking to married women.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, and she doesn't have to be
Speaker 6: married to give advice. Okay, However, I do think and
Speaker 6: that's why the animal I thinking doctor Ryan thing came
Speaker 6: to my mind.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 6: He's been married fifteen years and has three children and
Speaker 6: has been going through the weeds of what a relationship
Speaker 6: is like. And to me, I almost feel like their
Speaker 6: roles could be reversed. And I'll tell you why. To me,
Speaker 6: he is more authorized to be giving coaching advice while
Speaker 6: in a relationship, and she'd be better off talking to
Speaker 6: women on being single because she's actually in the dating field.
Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna hold you, Mandy like a single woman.
Speaker 6: It wouldn't give me a lot of faith if they
Speaker 6: were coaching me in dating now she's coaching in relationships
Speaker 6: and dynamics. To me, that's more therapy. So I understand
Speaker 6: why she does. That's a relationship coach. Yeah yeah, yeah, so,
Speaker 6: but I get why he was trying to like kind
Speaker 6: of stick it to her because he's feeling like shitty
Speaker 6: when she's telling him what he's doing is wrong, which
Speaker 6: cam Newton is wrong. But I almost felt like they
Speaker 6: could be flipped to me, someone married to fifteen years,
Speaker 6: that's a long accomplishment and coaching that entire time, and
Speaker 6: the children. Most of the women come into him probably
Speaker 6: want a husband and kids. That's why they're paying tens
Speaker 6: of thousands of dollars. Right in her particular case, if
Speaker 6: you're coaching married people and never have been married.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's psychological, I don't know.
Speaker 4: So I don't know her to be a marriage counselor
Speaker 4: though like you could, but you're dealing with the relationship dynamics.
Speaker 2: Like so, I think that that's the problem.
Speaker 4: When you're in a relationship, whether you're married, whether you're single,
Speaker 4: whether you're dating, whether you're ethical non monogamous, whether you're monogamous,
Speaker 4: you're dealing with people and communicating, which is what she
Speaker 4: talked about. That's why she believes she's high functioning, because
Speaker 4: she knows to listen and she.
Speaker 2: Knows how to communicate.
Speaker 4: I think those are the difficulties and tropes that we
Speaker 4: have in relationships, so much that I don't find it
Speaker 4: a problem that she's doing it to me, though I
Speaker 4: don't think it's a problem, no, so, but where on
Speaker 4: the other end, I don't think there's a problem with
Speaker 4: what she's doing with anwar. Being a homosexual black man
Speaker 4: giving advice to black heterosexual women.
Speaker 2: That's where I find it to be completely like, nah.
Speaker 6: Bro, So let's talk more than about experience. Yeah, if
Speaker 6: he's had most of his clients end up in successful relationships,
Speaker 6: is he not doing the job they're paying him to do.
Speaker 2: I could say this is the number one podcast in
Speaker 2: the world. I could say anything. I don't see that.
Speaker 2: I didn't see stats.
Speaker 6: I mean, now you're trying to nail somebody to the cross.
Speaker 6: But let's just say we're taking that word for value, like,
Speaker 6: there are many people that do a job with something
Speaker 6: that they don't have. You before you got in a relationship,
Speaker 6: were giving relationship and dating advice before having a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We've been there and doing it.
Speaker 6: I think someone that's been in a field for fifteen
Speaker 6: years literally even when he was like I said, oh,
Speaker 6: is there any relationship? If I think I said this
Speaker 6: that you may regret, He's like, some of it has
Speaker 6: had to change dynamics, Like, I don't know. I do
Speaker 6: believe you can coach someone like to date even though you're.
Speaker 1: Gay, Like I believe that.
Speaker 6: I think also dealing with black women specifically is probably
Speaker 6: what makes.
Speaker 1: It a lot more.
Speaker 6: Relative, right, Like, I'm sure white women probably come to him,
Speaker 6: but we're raising a black family. He understands he's dynamics
Speaker 6: with men. Yeah, he's gay, but I've had a gay
Speaker 6: therapist before. That's listening to advice. There are some people
Speaker 6: that seek out gay therapists for their gay issues alone.
Speaker 6: But I don't really think there's anything wrong to me,
Speaker 6: It's more about knowing you've experienced this yourself. That's why
Speaker 6: I think cam Newton probably was fucking hating on her
Speaker 6: with that you could.
Speaker 2: Talk about relationship a doctor in dating levels.
Speaker 4: Sexuality matters because to me, just I would just say
Speaker 4: that then sexuality matters to me, and how you navigate
Speaker 4: the advice that you're receiving from any coach, and so
Speaker 4: to me, someone who's Christian, faith based, monogamous and has
Speaker 4: never had an ethically non monogamous relationship wouldn't go to
Speaker 4: like sexuality to me in terms of discussing relationships, which
Speaker 4: is why we talk so much about how sex impacts
Speaker 4: our relationships or why people feel like your relationship can't
Speaker 4: be real because of the dynamics you insert in sex.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm saying, like we're dealing with people, yes,
Speaker 4: but sexuality plays such a large role in how we
Speaker 4: show up in relationships, specifically specifically romantic ones. I'm not
Speaker 4: taking dating advice from a homosexual.
Speaker 2: I'm just not.
Speaker 1: I refuse.
Speaker 4: You ain't never been in a heterosexual relationship the same
Speaker 4: way I'm not gonna take advice from a monogamous, faith
Speaker 4: based person who has never experienced lifestyle.
Speaker 6: So then is doctor Bryant then qualified to be giving
Speaker 6: dating advice to people that want to get married?
Speaker 4: She's not well, she said the three of the four proposals.
Speaker 4: She never made it all the way. But also, you're
Speaker 4: asking someone to me, getting married is not the high
Speaker 4: all be all, and there's people people.
Speaker 6: That are paying I'm gonta disagree with this many. Okay,
Speaker 6: you can tell people that no, no, no, people that are paying.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't believe that everybody thinks marriage is a high
Speaker 6: be all, but we can all pretty much tell.
Speaker 1: If you're not ask you're hitting money. Will you not
Speaker 1: looking for just ah boyfriend?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question.
Speaker 4: On the opposite end, she has never been married, but
Speaker 4: has been proposed to four times and has been in
Speaker 4: long standing relationships. Would you rather take advice from her
Speaker 4: or someone who's been divorced three times?
Speaker 2: Because then those marriages A good question. The marriages didn't work.
Speaker 6: I don't actually think that's a wash on them. Okay,
Speaker 6: so she's been proposed to four times, don't know why.
Speaker 1: Don't know what type of niggas you date.
Speaker 6: To be honest, she could have stayed in relationships where like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, it might have been your fault too.
Speaker 2: She said it was her part. The three though, that's
Speaker 2: that she loves.
Speaker 6: Right and so like they're that uh course, correcting learning
Speaker 6: where you like, I think you can probably teach people
Speaker 6: but actually consider them.
Speaker 2: To be okay cool.
Speaker 6: The reason I do is because there's a lot of
Speaker 6: power in saying no. So if a woman's been divorced
Speaker 6: or like when my single friends give me advice, right,
Speaker 6: and my man has even said to me too, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know why you would ask or talk to
Speaker 6: this about so and so if they're not right, And
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, but they've been in a relationship before,
Speaker 6: and a lot of women say no to bad relationships.
Speaker 1: Me too.
Speaker 6: If I would have stayed with old day, would that
Speaker 6: have made me a better Like? No, so they're divorcing
Speaker 6: to get into Like, I don't know. The only thing
Speaker 6: I want to know when I'm talking to somebody, if
Speaker 6: I'm really asking them to lead me, I would actually
Speaker 6: rather see them in it. So if I had to
Speaker 6: pick from her or Animar, it'd probably be in work,
Speaker 6: mainly because that lifestyle is probably what I.
Speaker 1: Would want when I'm paying for it, what I'm looking for.
Speaker 6: And I do know that a fifteen year marriage is
Speaker 6: so unheard of and children that to me, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 6: you probably got more to teach me than she do.
Speaker 2: They been able to be married for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Legally he's from Canada.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but I think marriage in New York
Speaker 6: and that was twenty over twenty years ago was it over.
Speaker 6: I think so because I was here when it became
Speaker 6: legal the United States became legal.
Speaker 4: No, it's still by state. It's not people maybe they
Speaker 4: went to wh it ain't federally, Yes it is. Gay
Speaker 4: marriage is not a federal it's still by state. No,
Speaker 4: that's a more should we look.
Speaker 2: That up.
Speaker 1: Obama. It happened under Obama. That's what you probably remember.
Speaker 1: Hawaii was still all the gaze.
Speaker 3: On June twenty sixth, twenty fifteen, the US Supreme Court
Speaker 3: struck down on all state bands in the same sex marriage.
Speaker 2: So legal, Okay, So that's nine years, bro, twenty fifteen?
Speaker 2: Bro what nigga?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying you say twenty bitch.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I've been like nine years.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so I don't know if he was legally
Speaker 4: married for fifteen years, but okay you can.
Speaker 1: You could have gotten married in another state.
Speaker 3: And they're Canadian, right, And that was also a common thing,
Speaker 3: that of state thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in Canada, they definitely got a better fucking representative
Speaker 6: than we do. But anyway, say I had to say, yeah,
Speaker 6: for me, I do believe in longevity and working it
Speaker 6: through and it being healthy, Like that's a good marker.
Speaker 6: And I would say that to someone in business if
Speaker 6: you had a fucking podcast studio or any kind of
Speaker 6: audio production studio a longer time than me, and that
Speaker 6: business was running and up, I'm gonna probably ask you
Speaker 6: for some advice before I would an influencer that just
Speaker 6: opened their shit but it boomed. Like, I do think
Speaker 6: that longevity is something that people respect. But again, I
Speaker 6: think doctor Bryant can counsel because of the psychology degree.
Speaker 2: But dating, I don't know it's advice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't want nothing from a homosexual.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't really know why that bothered you so much.
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me. I'm saying, first off, I'm not bothered.
Speaker 2: I'm not angry.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I want someone even if I.
Speaker 2: Believe sexuality matters. That's my point.
Speaker 4: That's my point is that the sexuality matters in your
Speaker 4: experience through the sexuality that you are matters if you
Speaker 4: have not had a heterosexual relationship.
Speaker 6: If your experience is to help women get to that's
Speaker 6: pretty much what it is, get to the finish line,
Speaker 6: which is marriage, right.
Speaker 4: And I guess that's my different like where I feel
Speaker 4: like it's different. I think relationship advice for the relationship
Speaker 4: coaching and those things. Marriage is not the end goal
Speaker 4: for everyone. So when we talk about the qualifications of
Speaker 4: why someone may be going to a dating a relationship coach,
Speaker 4: then being single in the moment to help me through
Speaker 4: my relationship doesn't matter if they're married or not.
Speaker 1: Do you think that actually this for everybody in the room.
Speaker 6: So an War is not a matchmaker, he's a dating
Speaker 6: coach for people that want to get married.
Speaker 1: That's like what he said.
Speaker 6: Do y'all think that anyone that's spending money though, is
Speaker 6: going to spend money if they're not looking for a
Speaker 6: husband or wife.
Speaker 1: Because I actually don't.
Speaker 6: It's a couple's therapy happen. No, no, no, single people paying
Speaker 6: a dating coach. Single people paying a dating coach.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing. She's not a dating coach, she's
Speaker 4: a dating account I'm not talking about her.
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to like, oh, this is conversation because
Speaker 6: you're saying marriage isn't the end goal for everybody. But
Speaker 6: I think for dating coaches that's got to be their thing.
Speaker 6: Do y'all believe that everyone paying for dating coach wants
Speaker 6: to get married.
Speaker 3: I thought, so I would think that there's an end
Speaker 3: goal if you're doing something like that.
Speaker 2: Or just to get a partner. Just because you get
Speaker 2: what someone doesn't mean going to.
Speaker 1: Pay for it if it's not.
Speaker 2: But I don't think there's a way.
Speaker 4: To confirm that just because you make a match that
Speaker 4: this person is going to be your husband.
Speaker 6: I know, but I think when someone's spending the money,
Speaker 6: they want marriage, but.
Speaker 2: There's no way to That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Even if we get matched, that doesn't mean this person's
Speaker 4: going to be my husband or my wife. I think
Speaker 4: that that's an unrealistic expectation just because I'm paying money,
Speaker 4: I'm going to find my husband.
Speaker 3: That's not feel like it's like if you go to
Speaker 3: a subway and like you get a wrap instead of
Speaker 3: a fucking six foot or foot long, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So, the thing that's happening within dating coaches right from
Speaker 6: even when I gather when he talked about specifically these
Speaker 6: women in Bigger City, then when he said six to
Speaker 6: eight months for a commitment, whereas the other ones ninety days.
Speaker 6: I think what's happening is that these people that are
Speaker 6: paying don't have the tools to set because it's all
Speaker 6: about boundaries. And this is actually something he said on
Speaker 6: a live I watched. He's like, I'm not saying stress
Speaker 6: him out, but by stress him out, I mean make
Speaker 6: your boundaries that strong. I'm not doing this or I'm
Speaker 6: not going to be dating you without having X, y Z.
Speaker 6: Like you've made some for yourself too, right, Like.
Speaker 2: Those are my boundaries.
Speaker 4: There's a difference though, between boundaries and ultimatums, which we
Speaker 4: talked about too, right. Soa walking away, right, that's about
Speaker 4: the point.
Speaker 6: So like I think dating coaches are there to kind
Speaker 6: of guide you through that because a lot of women
Speaker 6: a aren't walking away be setting that tone or ce
Speaker 6: able to really.
Speaker 1: Go out there and date in a way that puts
Speaker 1: them in a position of power.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of girls go on these dates
Speaker 6: and they're kind of just like following the dudes, you know, flow,
Speaker 6: whereas the coaches are kind of being like, hey, this
Speaker 6: is what your next step needs to be. I think
Speaker 6: that's why people pay, But I also believe that the
Speaker 6: end goal for them is marriage. I find it hard
Speaker 6: to believe that there is a woman out there that
Speaker 6: would spend anywhere from five to ten thousand dollars to
Speaker 6: just have a long term for I think they really
Speaker 6: want a husband, because I think people that just want
Speaker 6: to date casually feel comfortable enough to do it solo.
Speaker 1: But you don't.
Speaker 4: We disagree on this, and I just I know we've
Speaker 4: been going back and forth for a long time and
Speaker 4: we're over on time.
Speaker 1: Wrap it up, wrap it up out.
Speaker 2: I'm just like.
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