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Speaker 1: Be around with the NFL podcast Destroys Families on the

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Speaker 1: tennis court from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan hans As. I gotta heroes, I

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Speaker 1: always do, but this one's this is special. Mark Sassler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal already out of his chair and dropping his

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Speaker 1: fancy shiny Japanese suit, and to my right, he is

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Speaker 1: the conscience of NFL Network. He is the great Steve Weish.

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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy. I love when you say that, because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, God, you know, there's a bad concience and

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Speaker 1: a good conscience. You give me a lot of what

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Speaker 1: I think. You're the guiding light of editorial matters and um,

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Speaker 1: you're an important figure at the company and we're happy

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Speaker 1: to have you back. It's been too long. It has

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Speaker 1: been too long. I'm glad to be here. I love

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Speaker 1: the conversations that we have because you guys are so brilliant. Man.

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Speaker 1: This is good stuff. Well, that's strong. Wow, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's look. When I listen to your podcast, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys, some of the ways you guys approached things

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Speaker 1: are so unique, man. I think that's why this podcast

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Speaker 1: three of us. Why you always go there? What I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to Yes, be honest, Yes, WHOA. It always does

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Speaker 1: feel good to have Steven because I feel like having

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Speaker 1: Steven it's like it's validating. It's like we are really

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Speaker 1: part of this company. You say, he's the contents the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's like the center piece here, and so if he's

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Speaker 1: on our show, it's like we're legit. Why are you

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Speaker 1: wearing your suit jacket right now? Greg? Because we did

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Speaker 1: It's not we did NFL now. I did NFL Now

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Speaker 1: today right before the show, and then I ate lunch there.

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Speaker 1: He took a network He talked, I don't think this

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Speaker 1: shirt can like carry carry it on its own basic Okay, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: we gotta go off tempo here, Steve. By the way,

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Speaker 1: in addition to being all over NFL Network, you will

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Speaker 1: long So it would be good, you know, two programs

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Speaker 1: he was in my world. You're stream. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: be Bob Costas as a kid, and now you are there.

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Speaker 1: so check that out. We got a good show today,

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Speaker 1: great show perhaps, I mean, we don't know, it could suck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out in like fifty minutes. H We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do our season predictions. Now that's fun, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's fishing a barrel. That's fun because football is almost here,

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Get out of my life. He gone, here

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Speaker 1: comes regular season football a week from tomorrow, Bills Rams

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Speaker 1: our predictions for the new season. But before that, let's

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Speaker 1: a little bit differently. He's got to see defenses, you know,

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Speaker 1: back when I was talking to Hugh Freese, Liberties coach,

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Speaker 1: about Malik, He's like teams played very careful defenses because

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Speaker 1: at that level, when you've got a hyper athlete like

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Speaker 1: him like him, they will play scared defenses as opposed

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Speaker 1: to aggressive defenses. That's not the case in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So if he has to get a chance, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Mark, I think you've got

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Speaker 1: to find ways to get him in maybe two or

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Speaker 1: three plays a game, just so he can feel it,

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Speaker 1: because you never know. And and look Ryan Tannehill, you know,

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Speaker 1: he he's talked about what that playoff game did to

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Speaker 1: him last year. You know, is he going to be

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Speaker 1: able to fully sustain if things get a little sideways.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Titans, with that run game and everything,

440
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Speaker 1: are going to be in the mix. But I love

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Speaker 1: to see, you know, Malik will just get on the

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Speaker 1: field as well. Like I get he might not be

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Speaker 1: totally ready, but there's some Josh Allen stuff here, like

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Speaker 1: just the physical I think as these quarterbacks keep coming out,

445
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Speaker 1: they keep being the best running quarterback just about that

446
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Speaker 1: we've ever seen because they just keep getting better. And

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Speaker 1: maliek willis in terms of his running ability could be

448
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Speaker 1: close to that Lamar Jackson level with the arm strength

449
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Speaker 1: of a Josh Allen, and maybe it'll take a while

450
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Speaker 1: like a Josh Allen to get ready, but the gifts

451
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: are crazy. For late, when people thought Lamar Jackson wasn't ready,

452
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Speaker 1: it was like suddenly, Joe Flacco looks like a carved

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Speaker 1: out of stone in the in the in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: There we make a switch and they're they're on fire

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Speaker 1: the defense. Their offense looks completely different. Yeah. The one

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Speaker 1: thing I want to say about this is that all

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Speaker 1: the buzz around Tennessee when this was happening was about

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Speaker 1: like can Malik improved as a passer, And people kept

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Speaker 1: saying things like, well, we knew what he could do

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Speaker 1: with his legs, and to your point, Greg like, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't know. Just because he doesn't in college doesn't

462
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Speaker 1: mean it's going to translate. So I think some of

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Speaker 1: the stuff with the side arm like arm angle to

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Speaker 1: get around defenders and things like that was was really

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Speaker 1: impressive and encouraging for And last with with the arms

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Speaker 1: in the legs, this dude is a brick house. I

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Speaker 1: mean he has built like a middle linebacker. He is

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Speaker 1: a stout guy with incredible ballots, so he'll be able

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Speaker 1: to take a little bit of the punishment. You know,

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Speaker 1: he'll be able to break tackles as well. That's the

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Speaker 1: one thing when I talked to Scottson was coming out

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Speaker 1: like this dude breaks tackles. I mean, you know, like

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Speaker 1: a big stud, big tail, like hurts, like a better

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Speaker 1: Likenaic hurts, but I think hurts. His running ability ended

475
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Speaker 1: up being so underrated because it's been so good for him.

476
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Speaker 1: Another quarterback that took punishment and the last preseason game

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Speaker 1: for the Lions was David Blow and he peeled himself

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Speaker 1: off the turf every time stayed in the game. And

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Speaker 1: after Tim Boyle was cut, you thought Blow hard stood

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Speaker 1: up Mark, and they were excited because it looked like

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Speaker 1: he was going to be Jared Goss back up. But

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Speaker 1: we learned today that David Blow also cut and a

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Speaker 1: corresponding move, Nate Sudfeld was brought on to the Lions.

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Speaker 1: So I think we turned it over to you, Mark,

485
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Speaker 1: and what I imagine is a very difficult ton. Well, yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: I mean I get to know David Blow even more

487
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Speaker 1: than Um than in the past through hard knocks the

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Speaker 1: person Um I have read off the newsletter right now. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the Blow Hearts newsletter is actually in

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Speaker 1: production after the show. I've memmeographic it's type written. Um,

491
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Speaker 1: it's a weekly newsletter. Uh. And everyone's like, oh, that's

492
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Speaker 1: so bad. For the thing is like every great story

493
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Speaker 1: has its ups and downs, and I do believe that

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Speaker 1: this is just a down right now for David Blow.

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Speaker 1: He will find his way back on the field and

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Speaker 1: what a great chapter that will be. It tells me

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Speaker 1: want to add him to the practice squad if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a job elsewhere, Well, you can do great

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Speaker 1: things on the practice squad potentially, and other chaos can strike.

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Speaker 1: But it does tell me the Lions I like this

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Speaker 1: about my one thing about Hard Knocks, And we don't

502
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Speaker 1: really talked about the show. They're coaching staff, to me

503
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Speaker 1: is just so fun to watch. I mean, they're just

504
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Speaker 1: a different type of NFL coaching staff. I think that

505
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is not getting the kind of credit. Um.

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Speaker 1: He just I respond to him as a teacher and

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Speaker 1: a motivator and kind of keeping that frame of that

508
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Speaker 1: team through all that's gone on, good or bad. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't just shy away from what they needed to do.

510
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Speaker 1: They didn't fall victim to the Hard Knocks story where

511
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Speaker 1: would be nice to keep David Blow. They made a

512
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Speaker 1: cutthroat decision based on the quarterback position, the backup cutthroat. Well,

513
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Speaker 1: I think they just said, you know, we've got these

514
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Speaker 1: two guys, we're gonna upgrade and if David Blow is

515
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Speaker 1: just gonna have to prove that, there's another chapter. I

516
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Speaker 1: just wanted the story is not over to if the

517
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Speaker 1: receiver that also got cut, the underdog receiver, Pichi the juggler,

518
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Speaker 1: if he catches that ball for the touchdown, is David

519
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Speaker 1: Blast today both have a job. You know it's it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's fair to say to we. And of course

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Speaker 1: check out the Hard Knocks podcast with me and Colleen

522
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Speaker 1: Wolf where we talked about all of this stuff. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, and you mentioned West earlier, there was a

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Speaker 1: moment where Jared Goff, by the way, finally showed up

525
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Speaker 1: in the episode and they catch a conversation between Goff

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Speaker 1: and Blow talking about practicing without any coaches. They did

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Speaker 1: a non no coaches practice. The players ran the show,

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Speaker 1: and this exchange between Goth, who I think you'll hear first,

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Speaker 1: and Blow did remind me of Chris Westley. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: to they're sitting up there in the air conditioning. You know,

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Speaker 1: was quote the man of the arena, of the deeds.

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Speaker 1: The credit belongs to the man who was in the

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Speaker 1: arena whose face is marred by dustin, sweat and blood,

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Speaker 1: not the coaches who are drinking coffee and the air

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Speaker 1: conditioning right now got the zinger, But it was the

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Speaker 1: blow common that reminded me of west So you'd just

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Speaker 1: be in a random conversation with Chris and he just

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Speaker 1: quote from some book he had read or just off

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Speaker 1: the top of his head. With that folks, he wisdom

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Speaker 1: that he had. Uh, that did give me a bit

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Speaker 1: of a west By there is. There was great depth

542
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Speaker 1: to Chris Wesley in ways that you just learned more

543
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: and more as you got to know him. And I

544
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Speaker 1: think that applies in a different, unique way to David Blow.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we connect with David Blow. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: why he has a newsletter that it's finished, it's and

547
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Speaker 1: then it takes three or four days to get to you,

548
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Speaker 1: because that's the U. S. Postal service. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in Australian Europe that's that's twelve days third,

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Speaker 1: teen days expensive to mail. Uh real quick eight o'clock

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Speaker 1: to light and then we're taking a break and then

552
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Speaker 1: we're getting too predictions. Alex Leatherwood, first round pick of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders last year, cut claimed by the Bears. Steve

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Speaker 1: real Quick. Well, the Raiders love it because it takes

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Speaker 1: six million off of their salary cap. And look why

556
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Speaker 1: not though, because if you get a guy who ends

557
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Speaker 1: up playing, then you get him four six million dollars,

558
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, and undrest of his rookie contract. This will

559
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: not help the Bears generate more w Stough No Dolphins

560
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: plays cornerback Byron Jones on the pup list with an ankle.

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Speaker 1: That's a high paid player that is not on the field.

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Speaker 1: Similar to the Bills, I think they are very thin

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Speaker 1: at cornerback. That is their weakness. Despite having Xavien Howard,

564
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Speaker 1: they do not have many other quality corners. Another high

565
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Speaker 1: first round pick, Mark Sessler O J. Howard. In the past,

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Speaker 1: he was cut by the Bills, so you couldn't stick

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Speaker 1: with them. The Rap rap Sheet reports he's expected to

568
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Speaker 1: sign with the Bengals. Catches over the past two seasons

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Speaker 1: injured a bunch um sort of a guy that I

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Speaker 1: think career wise is alling off a cliff after being

571
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Speaker 1: a high potential sort of fantasy target. Not today. I

572
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Speaker 1: think he got more guaranteed money than any player who

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Speaker 1: got cut, like season three million dollars plus didn't make.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of fantasy, Damian Pierce, the runway is clear after

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Speaker 1: the Texans cut Marlon Mack. You like what you see

576
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Speaker 1: from Pierson? I do, And mu's your dismay. I like

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Speaker 1: what I see from the Texans? Who am I am?

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Speaker 1: I against the Texans? A couple of weeks ago you

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Speaker 1: were you were like sick of Texans corner Greg and

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Speaker 1: I you know is going on down there? Let's keep rolling.

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Speaker 1: Kellen mon Cutt in Minnesota, claimed by the Brown's mind,

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Speaker 1: of course, is floated as a potential Kirk Cousins replacement

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Speaker 1: just because the old coach hated Kirk Cousins. Yes or no? No?

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Speaker 1: All right? Uh Jesus. Steelers acquire outside linebacker Malik Reid

585
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Speaker 1: from Broncos, guard Jesse Davis from Vikings, and trades running

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Speaker 1: back Ryan Robinson. That that's such a Greg one is

587
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Speaker 1: what they're concerned about. They are not being with those positions.

588
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson is out of the hospital and he's expected

589
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Speaker 1: to be on the Washington roster. Good news there, Texans

590
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Speaker 1: claim wide receiver Tyler Johnson and waivers waivers from Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Chargers officially add Sony Michelle to the backfield after he

592
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Speaker 1: was cut loose, and sources say the Eagles are trading

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Speaker 1: former first round wide receiver Jalen Reagor to the Vikings

594
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Speaker 1: in exchange for a draft pick Steve Anything from there

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Speaker 1: we pick up makes a lot of sense because they

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Speaker 1: you know, the Charges are looking for a bruiser and

597
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Speaker 1: he's great in past protection. So you've got to help

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Speaker 1: keep your most valuable asset. Just you look at the picks.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles basically traded Jalen Reagor for John Gartner Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Cowboys getting it done. Cowboys fans are hating this

601
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Speaker 1: because they got more for Reagor than the Cowboys got

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Speaker 1: for a Marii Cooper essentially, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: worst trains in the office, no doubt about that. All right,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's happening in the news. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: break and get some predictions, all right. Here we are fun.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to do predictions. In fact, if you want

607
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Speaker 1: to check out predictions from people all over the NFL

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Speaker 1: media landscape, go over to NFL dot com. It's probably

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Speaker 1: on the home page. I mean, I don't know. Most likely,

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Speaker 1: I would think based on our history working in the

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Speaker 1: newsroom and com slash predictions, I just guess, Like back

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Speaker 1: to my homepage conversation, I think it's gonna be up

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Speaker 1: there for a good twenty four hours. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: evergreen content, perfect for this time of year. Steve perfect

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Speaker 1: work in many newsrooms I have. I thought you could

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Speaker 1: do it. I thought you're gonna drop a bag of

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Speaker 1: nails reference. No bag of nails reference here. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go through basically with the great Gennaro Police, who

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Speaker 1: works with Ali bin Pari, the features editor. He sends

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Speaker 1: out the email to us, Hey, give us some predict

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Speaker 1: actions all awards division, your Super Bowl pick, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to share our thoughts. Now. So interestingly, Steve washe

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Speaker 1: not one of the people who responded to the email.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you can do I guess when you're then,

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Speaker 1: I was told I was told by a certain person

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Speaker 1: at this table to keep it nimble. He's my favorite,

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Speaker 1: by the way, m I'm just kidding me because he

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Speaker 1: told me to keep it is glowing right now, the smiles.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'll get it to us. No, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: I love you. You did not send it to the editors,

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Speaker 1: said to me to Steve's defense, that they don't send

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Speaker 1: this out to tea typical reporters type that want to show. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I take it back. You are the conscience you. That's

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Speaker 1: terrible because I have done this in prior years. So

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Speaker 1: now general taking shots, But I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: his decision. It came from above police. I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like Jeneral because I sent mine in a day

638
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: late and he's still allowed it to be included in

639
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: the Article's sleep at the Wheel? All right, So why

640
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: don't we start? All right, let's start at the top,

641
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: because I think that we'll connect with some other things

642
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: and we'll just kind of go down right, So we'll

643
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: go divisions, will do the awards. You want to do

644
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the awards first, and think awards because divisions leads to

645
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, I think the awards, good awards? What

646
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: last first? Yeah, okay, let's do it. M v P.

647
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Steve Patrick Mahomes. So what you want to lack of receivers.

648
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: He's Patrick Mahomes, he will be the m v P right,

649
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and I think the narrative he was my pick to um.

650
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: He was also Mark Ross's pick. Uh, the tied for

651
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: the third most popular pick among our writers. Uh who,

652
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: I like, are you gonna keep giving these nugs? I like, UM,

653
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: I like, I think people will actually give him extra

654
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: credit if he's just Patrick Mahomes because Tyreek Hill is

655
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: not there. Like, I can just see that being that's

656
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: a great point. A lot of times it's a narrative awards,

657
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: as you like to point out, Mark, maybe it won't

658
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: be fifty and twelve interception touchdowns interceptions like that incredible

659
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen season, But if it's like maybe closer

660
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: that first uh Rogers MVP year of the back to backs,

661
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: he's just right similar situations talking about that Justin Herbert

662
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: was the Michael Jordan of the NFL, and I'm like,

663
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: Patrick Willhomes is right there. Well, I will segue off

664
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: of that to tell you that I pittball is completely

665
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: different than basketball. I picked Justin Herbert and that someone

666
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: else at this table to two, along with a couple

667
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: of the people. I did take Justin Herbert as well.

668
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the stars are aligning for Herbert.

669
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Who you know, there's a definitely a segment of the

670
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: football community that absolutely adores Herbert already, but maybe this

671
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: year with that little extra bump and the team being good,

672
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: very importantly, the team has to be better. They need

673
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: to be either win the West or make the playoffs.

674
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: And I think Herbert with big numbers becomes a massive star.

675
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: And opposing NFL coaches are like, Herbert is God like there,

676
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: they just see something completely different in him. I'm getting

677
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: killed for suggesting he's a Michael Jordan's figure. Coaches are

678
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: who actually coached are calling him God. So let's I'm

679
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: not sham God, but God. I'm looking at the Vegas odds,

680
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: He's tied for fifth in terms of most likely. Josh

681
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: Allen is gonna favorite um and he he got the

682
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: most votes, Josh Allen with twelve. Herbert was second, was six,

683
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: then Burrow. Someone not named David Carr voted for Derek Carr.

684
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: That was our editor. I'll interesting, and Aaron Rodgers, yeah,

685
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: the one making the editorial decisions, calling the shots because

686
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is the league m v P that's correct. Well,

687
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: his job, it's just helped format the article format for

688
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Everybody's board offensive Player of the Year. Now,

689
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: we've talked about it this on the show, many especially great.

690
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: I always refused I have Staying every year? Did you

691
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: have Staying again this year? Well, it's like best Picture,

692
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: best director, you just give it to the other. What

693
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: do you got, Steve Joey Burrow Brow I would have

694
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: been a good en VP pick how many he was

695
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: tied with Mahomes. He got two votes, including Burgo and

696
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, two of the titans of the NFL media.

697
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Burgo and Warner. Okay, I have in a I'm looking

698
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: to bounce back yere to just see that. It's the

699
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: only time Burgo and Kurt Warner will ever really be

700
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, like totally Like Burrow checks in on these,

701
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: He's like, oh sweet, I got Bergman, who like, who's

702
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: that Warner guy? Um, I'm going kind of off the

703
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: board here, off the Vegas reservation and predicting a big

704
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: bounce back here for Christian McCaffrey, who gets offensive players

705
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: like that? I went justin Jefferson, I think talk about

706
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: that's a great call. That's a fresh face the awards.

707
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I wish I had gotten like Chase, you should have

708
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: just voted. Yeah, yeah, it would have been fun. Plus

709
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: there's is there any context within that article why you

710
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't do it? Oh no, they don't. I try. I've

711
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: used to try to do that and they just ignore it.

712
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: They just don't count my vote. I was just like,

713
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: this is stupid. Justin Jefferson got the most votes. How

714
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: about Defensive Player of the Year, Steve. I think this

715
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: guy a unanimous Michael Parsons I did too, because I

716
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: want to believe in greatness. I want to believe in

717
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: like J. J. Watts first few years when he won

718
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: those back to back to back Defense Player of the Years,

719
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Like I want to believe that Michael Parsons is one of,

720
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: if not the most special defensive player I've ever seen.

721
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: So that's because he is so far he is. Why

722
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: why it's not unanimous is because there are other great

723
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: players in the league, like my pick Myles Garrett, who

724
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: can have a monster season and win that award as well.

725
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: He actually, uh, Parsons amazingly isn't the favorite in Vegas.

726
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: He's plus eight hundred. I mean, all these are long odds,

727
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: Garrett Donald and Watt are just slightly ahead of Parsons. Wow,

728
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: I've thought Nick Bose, who would be in that mixed too?

729
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: He's next step. I almost I had penciled in, and

730
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: then I whipped out Max Crosby. I just thought someone

731
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: from the Total Wilderness might just end up. We're basic.

732
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: I guess not basic, but the NFL dot com writer

733
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: has had Parsons first, just not in Vegas. Offensive Rookie

734
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: of the Year Mark sels is gonna love my pick

735
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: James Cook. People are gonna say it's by comedian buffalo

736
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: by the end of the Season's James Cook's gonna be

737
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: that guy. And plus they're gonna get so much exposure

738
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: you talked about you guys are gonna love it too.

739
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: But but but you talked about it. But you talked

740
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: about exposure. Okay, the Bill is gonna be on TV

741
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: all the time. We're gonna be talking about him. That's fair.

742
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: That's what's been missing for their offense is a running back.

743
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is when you come up with

744
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: a take that everyone's like, ha, that's a little left

745
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: of center. That's something that Mark identify with. Now, I

746
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't understand connecting the dots on this. I have Kenny Pickett,

747
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: who's probably not even gonna be a Week one starter,

748
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: but I like his set up and I think he's

749
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: going to get into that lineup, and I don't know

750
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: if he'll thrive or not, but he'll be putting put

751
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: in position to succeed with a great coaching staff and

752
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: a good team around him. Now, we're not allowed to

753
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: um wager on this as NFL and forbidden. If I

754
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: was allowed, that would have been my pick, and it

755
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: was I think better than the one I had, which

756
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: is which was George Pickens, because I think I think Picket,

757
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: you're getting a nice value too, because he's not the starter,

758
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: but in the end, I think he's the most likely.

759
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: But I just love Pickings in general, and so I

760
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: stuck with that and think he'll have an I had

761
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: Pickens too. I think I have a feeling that he's

762
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot more than anyone who doubts that

763
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: he won't be starting material, and he's gonna blow up

764
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: an offensive rookie of the year from the wide receiver

765
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: position if you're making splash plays all year long, and

766
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: a Pickett if the quarterback play is good enough. Something

767
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: about George Pickens looks like he's been in the league

768
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: for five years, And I think people are just gonna

769
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: be who have not been watching the preseason are going

770
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: to see it right away and he's gonna get votes.

771
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: So and that team develops wide receivers over and over.

772
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: That none of us picked a lava who was actually

773
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: the most likely UM guy to win, according to the

774
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com analyst Christian Watson got one vote from

775
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: Steve Mario just thought that point. How about Mark Defensive

776
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. All Right, maybe I've been pulled

777
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: in by hard knocks, but I think that everything I

778
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: see about Aidan Hutchinson, and it's on field, off field,

779
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: who he is, Like, I think they got a winner,

780
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: right that that is the not only the most likely

781
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: UM person in Vegas and got the overwhelming amount of

782
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: votes on NFL dot Com, but is more likely to

783
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: win this award than anyone is to win any award.

784
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: Uh in Vegas A big favorite. Exactly. I took Trayvon Walker,

785
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: who got the second most amount of votes and also

786
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: three or fourth. Yeah, he just slack flashed. He just

787
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: looked like, Okay, this dude's athleticism is going to carry over.

788
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited Ally Bun Pury went Derek Stingley Jr. By

789
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: the way, the only individual who I have the number

790
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: four overall pick Sauce Gardner. Sure, I'm a homer, but

791
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: everything I hear about Sauce Gardner and Camp has been great.

792
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm not putting him in that Reeva's conversation,

793
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: but it's kind of that vibe you get the first summer.

794
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, this guy is going to be an

795
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: instant starter, difference maker. I think they nailed that pick.

796
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: I've seen a blame person. Aidan Hutchinson is the real deal.

797
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean he is effort, he is speed, he's athleticism,

798
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's just he got it. So I go Aidan Hudson.

799
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: But I love I love all these picks. I think

800
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: all these guys. Yeah, they they He was the third

801
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: most popular and uh Adam Rank picked Jakwan Brisker from

802
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: the Bears despite it, you know, recently I know he

803
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: loves I mean, he makes my Jets fandom look like.

804
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: He also had a surgery, reasonally like he might be

805
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: ready for what's just doing what he wants to do there,

806
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you know your power. How about comeback Player of the Year?

807
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: Mark alright, you like him in a different category, But

808
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I went Christian McCaffrey. I think it's just set up

809
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: because you know they've been so different without him. If

810
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: he comes back and dominates the way that we think,

811
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: there aren't as many candidates for comeback players yere that

812
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: are super obvious this time around, unless someone like k

813
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: is nebulos. It's nebulos. What is comeback player here? So

814
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: you can make it anyway. It could be Trevor Lawrence,

815
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It could be anybody. I

816
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: of course, what with McCaffrey, because that would make no

817
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: sense of But if I had him as Offensive Player

818
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: of the Year but not come back like that's true,

819
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: it's nels exactly exact. They spread those around. That's what

820
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't like about the whole process. I really like

821
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: my pick, which is Sae Kwon Barkley. He's come Oh

822
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: now you're in on Barkley. Well just for this, well

823
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting out. I'm totally getting um suckered in by

824
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: a very small sample size. But a couple of those

825
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: practice clips they sent out and a couple of the preseason,

826
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: little more juice and just feels like and he's talking

827
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: like a lot of trash and that's not really been

828
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: his thing. He's just like people. You know, he's talking

829
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: a lot of trash, and I like that confidence. Yeah,

830
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, I just can't rock with any Giants because

831
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 1: he's out of the picture of their team captain today

832
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: and there was like forty five. So I can't go

833
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: with anything Giants. I'm going Jameis Winston. Jamis wanted me

834
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: to come back, but I'm also with you Dan. If

835
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: I could ride there the Ryan Tannehill contrails, it would

836
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence, you know, just a guy who came

837
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: back from a completely you know, ship break of a season.

838
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: Because seeing the guy twice talk to some people and

839
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: they're like, guy's gonna have the biggest jump year one,

840
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: year two than any other second year player. See, Winston

841
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: can't get it because I don't know if he knew,

842
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: but the Andy dal Tennesseans is gonna happen down in

843
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans. God, so he's the one to get Chrysalovy

844
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: or the time he'll get comeback player. Wouldn't that be?

845
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: How about justin? No one mentioned Derrick Henry. Alright, he

846
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: was there, almost almost too obvious. He was third in

847
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: the boats, and you're right, he is in the top

848
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: three I think in Vegas is I also have the

849
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: question about I mean, you're talking about how nebulous it is.

850
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson missed the final five games of the season.

851
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: Can he count? And it feels like you're really pushing

852
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: it at that point. If he missed December, it's just like,

853
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: but yes, I think can we give it its dignity,

854
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: dignity of JK. Dobbins might get more of a run

855
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: because of the time he missed. I just don't trust

856
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: them more of a serious thing. But yes, as as

857
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: we've pointed out, unfortunately for the like sixty five times

858
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: on this show, once Philip Rivers won it correct, just

859
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: from a season where he was like the seventeenth best

860
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league and then he was like the

861
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: third best quarterback in the league and he won the awards. Chucks,

862
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: thanks for this award. Um Coach of the Year, Steve Wish,

863
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, Oh yeah, I think they're gonna take a

864
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: little remade, little remade offense with a quarterback, and I

865
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: think the cold that's a good call. Mad I should

866
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: have picked that I had. This is why, because there's

867
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: an narrative in place that I hate the Texans. I

868
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: was gonna go Lovey Smith because I thought they have

869
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: a chance to build significantly off, not become like a

870
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: playoff team, but to rebound rebound. Yes, But ultimately I

871
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: I went with logic, and I said, if I'm predicting

872
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: justin Herbert's m v P, that means the Chargers are

873
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna have like eleven wins. I would think, so Brandon

874
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: Staley makes sense logically as someone who would get the trophy.

875
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Were linked on this exercise over and over and through

876
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: the same logic because I had Herbert as m v P,

877
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the Chargers this season,

878
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: and I think Brandon Staley is also fascinating to listen to.

879
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: To a lot of media people, there's a he's a

880
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: little bit different and if he takes the curse and

881
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: of the Chargers and like shoots that into the sun,

882
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: he's a different type of coach than they've had in

883
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: a long time. And so I went, Brandon Staley, if that,

884
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: if you used that logic, he's going to can't. Yeah,

885
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: he got the second most amount of votes behind Sean McDermott. Okay,

886
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm the weird one. Yeah, because that's the high bar

887
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to reach. That is not something

888
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: reflected in the Vegas like McDermott's not even in the

889
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: top fifteen most likely, which I think is more accurate.

890
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: The Vegas odds had Staley tied for first with Dable.

891
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: It was all first and second year coaches for the

892
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: top eight or nine, because that's usually these awards and

893
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: the giants. I guess the idea that seems odd to

894
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: me either way. It's an award where everyone's a pretty

895
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: extreme long shot, you know, because it's just impossible because

896
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: so many people are hot on the idea of the

897
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Bills finally winning a Super Bowl. People that are involved

898
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: with this exercise don't realize that the playoffs don't factor

899
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: into the Coach of the Year voting. They would have

900
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: to go like fifteen and two. I think for this

901
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: to happen for shots shots fired at the Bills, you know, anybody,

902
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. No. Eight people voted for for mc dermott.

903
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: I voted for Sirianni by the way, which you know

904
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: might be voted on much's behalf in this building. I'm

905
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: just that's that's not right. Uh. All right, let's move

906
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: on to regular season. The Eagles in the regular season

907
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: with their schedule, so I'm let's stop right here. Let's

908
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: take a break before we get to our division picks

909
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl. Alright, let's get to the playoff picks now.

910
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the division winners. Let's just

911
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: go straight across. Um. I have Bills in the East,

912
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Ravens in the North, Colts in the South, Chargers in

913
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: the West. How about you, Steve, So, I'm going Bills

914
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: in the East, Bengals in the North, Colts in the South,

915
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs in the West. A lot of agreement here. I'm

916
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: with Steve on the Bengals in the North. I think

917
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have the Bills. I also have the Colts,

918
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: and I do have the Chiefs standing tall, even though

919
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: I see them in the Chargers as maybe the two

920
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: best teams in the a f C along with along

921
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: with the I have the Bills in the East, the

922
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Bengals in the North, the Titans in the South, where's

923
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: the respect, and the Chargers in the West. So it's

924
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot it's a lot of chalk, a little disagreement

925
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: on Ravens Bengals. As the season it's like the off

926
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: season went along. I feel like people got lower on

927
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens for some reason, which was I feel bad

928
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: about alright, So they are now as of last year

929
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: three wild card. This is where it's gonna get good.

930
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: And um, I may or may not have forgotten about

931
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: the Bengals when I was doing this, putting in my

932
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: intense research, but that actually works out for me because

933
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: it makes it seem like I see something of the others.

934
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: I have. The Chiefs is the first wild card, the

935
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: Broncos is the second, and the team that everyone thinks

936
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: has no chance of figuring it out this year, the

937
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: Patriots to claiming the wild card. Does anyone else have

938
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Broncos or Patriots? I have Broncos. I also have the

939
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs number one, the Ravens number two, and the Broncos

940
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: number three just sliding in. I think it's just so

941
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: hard for all four of those teams to do well,

942
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: and I feel like the Broncos are the most likely

943
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: to to face plant. My surprise team was I snuck

944
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in there as my third wild Card. I

945
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: think the schedule. I think the defense is actually pretty

946
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: good and there's enough offensive to they can scheme it

947
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: all up. But the rest of my picks were chocked,

948
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Chargers and Ravens. Would have Charges, Ravens, Dolphins. Did anyone

949
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: else the same picks all all through? All three of

950
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: you except Mark have the Titans going first seed two

951
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. Yeah, do you have a favorite

952
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: this year? Are you still saying that the Titans are

953
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: like a real first seed team last year? Last year?

954
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: What makes them not a real first seed team last year?

955
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean they were technically the first seed. They beat

956
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Alan and Stafford in the regular season, beat

957
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. I mean, they look terrible in the playoffs,

958
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: but they are still gonna make the playoffs this year.

959
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Do you have them in the playoffs this year? Course

960
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: they They wouldn't let him do his am. I literally

961
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: the only one that has the entire company has the

962
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: Patriots making the playoffs. We don't have the rest of

963
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: the company's picks. Unfortunately on the playoffs. They're dropping that

964
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: on Thursday and then the Super Bowl pick. I would

965
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: imagine Willia mc ginnis might have Patriots, so I don't know.

966
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: We just know our room or you're at least pick

967
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: representation participated. I hate that. Like, there's so many good

968
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: teams in the a f C. It was it's almost

969
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: hard to not go chalk except for maybe that last spot.

970
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: How about over this one, none of us had the Raiders. Yeah,

971
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: that was a tough call. That was really think they

972
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: have a chance. They remind me they're a little like

973
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos where I think they're upsides high in Saints

974
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: where they're upsides higher than people thinking if they want

975
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. But I also didn't put them in

976
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: the all right, how about in the NFC, I have

977
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles in the East, the Packers in the North,

978
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: the Bucks in the South, Rams in the west. So chucky,

979
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: I have Eagles in the East, Packers in the North,

980
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: Rams in the West, and Saints in the south. Okay,

981
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: we're the same. I I have the same I got

982
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Eagles East, Packers, North, st South, Rams West. What is

983
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: it like you would almost change your picks if you

984
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: knew what the rest of the show is doing. Because

985
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: I have the same as as you guys, and we're

986
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: all trying to be cute. It's like, well, let's not

987
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: go four chok picks. Let's go to Saints over Bucks.

988
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: I believe Saints, though I'm not you have I do too? Yeah,

989
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: I do too. I think the Saints are really good.

990
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: There's I was getting heat on Twitter for some reason

991
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: for dogg in this Saints trade, and there was a

992
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of Saints fans and media that's like the national media,

993
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: so against the Saints. I was like, I don't think so, man.

994
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be the consensus wild card team.

995
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: And on this show, three of us haven't been went

996
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: in the division. They're loaded on defense. I have the

997
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: Saints in the playoffs. I have forty Niners as the

998
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: number one wild card. The Saints is the number two,

999
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: and I got crazy, you know, I got a soft

1000
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: spot for some reason for these guys. The Vikings is

1001
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: the third wild card team. Look, I've got bucks for Vikings.

1002
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see why Norris are going to

1003
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: be out of this. I think at pretty good well

1004
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: be in it. I mean, I don't have a problem

1005
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: with them being a wild card team. I love it

1006
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: as no. I picked my number one wild card is Niners.

1007
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: I think this is all gonna work. Out for them,

1008
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be spicy in the playoffs as

1009
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: they over. I don't really care where they're slotted. Look

1010
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: out for them. I don't character playing Green Bay and

1011
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: the Bucks will be the second wild card, but I

1012
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: think there's weird I feel just weird energy around the Bucks.

1013
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with that team.

1014
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: Seemed to have a lot of theories about um uh

1015
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: this this I don't I'm struggling to buy this, even

1016
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: though I h submitted it. I I'm going Cardinals is

1017
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: the third wild card team. You don't believe it? I

1018
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of do because I think everyone's just like so

1019
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: counting them out that maybe they're just like we actually

1020
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: are talented. We have a talented quarterback who's a pretty

1021
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: good play caller, maybe better than the Headcoud. I'm changing

1022
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm changing mine because I had the Vikings is my third.

1023
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm putting the Cowboys. Why does it scare you?

1024
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: Are the Cowboys not so an? I just wanted, like

1025
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: statistically to sort of represent all the different possibilities to it,

1026
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: just like what you feel. No, I'm glad you did

1027
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: that because I was gonna ask why none of you

1028
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: had the Cowboys. Nobody you know like the Cowboys this year.

1029
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: Their defense is gonna be outstanding. Their defense is gonna

1030
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: be really good. Their secondary's really good, right, their lineback

1031
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: are good. Their defensive front has a potential to be

1032
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: pretty good. Throw offensive line. Mean that time when Smith

1033
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: injury is real, they can sit there and talk about

1034
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: all the all the gum they're gonna patch the yacht.

1035
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, the torpedo size hole in the yacht with

1036
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: that's a huge wide receivers who you Dublin still have

1037
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. So Dak Prescott plus the defense. But you're right,

1038
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: I picked the Vikings worse. I thought I was gonna

1039
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: be cute. It just got worse. It off. How's Gallup

1040
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna be He's not. Yeah, I think he's such an

1041
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: important part of what they're gonna do. John said he

1042
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: could play this week if I were the super Bowl,

1043
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: but would not be playing because it's week so okay

1044
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: play it's smart alright, super Bowl pick times, Steve Wis,

1045
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: Rams and Chiefs. You know what, And here's the here's

1046
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: the thing. I very much who's winning. I contemplated putting

1047
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: the Colchin out the a f C. One of my

1048
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: favorite offseason moves, it's not talked about enough. Is unique

1049
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: in Gockway going to the Colts. This dude man. Look

1050
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: at his stats, his force, fumbles, his sacks, just his

1051
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: his disruption in a division like that, in a conference

1052
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: like that, I think their defense is gonna be pretty

1053
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: darn good. But I'm gonna go with the Chiefs right

1054
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: here because I look at the talent on their defense

1055
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: and se Spagnol's hits. You those guys getting better through

1056
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: the season. Rams versus Chiefs, with the Rams repeating when

1057
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: they sign Odell in December and they go four wide

1058
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: with Allen Robbins and Cooper couple, O'Dell and Van Jefferson pick. Actually,

1059
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: the people kind of won't. That won't be many. There

1060
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: won't be many NFL dot com writers that pick the

1061
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: Rams their fifth or six actually, most likely in Vegas.

1062
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to repeat. That's real. Um. Any

1063
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: little birdie's talking to Steve Wish about the elbow of

1064
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I haven't heard anything that's concerning right now,

1065
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: but I mean you have to think about it. Seventeen

1066
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: games people talking about being a baseball injury. That's never

1067
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: comforting to someone who who's got to throw it, saying

1068
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: he's never seen it with any quarterback ever in his coach.

1069
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Maybe cam Akers get runs. Um. All right,

1070
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: for the rest of us that we're on the article,

1071
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: Steve was above us. No, I was, I was left

1072
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: I was left out. It's not too late, you know,

1073
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I was. I was kind of like who I was

1074
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: like the Bengals. A little annoyed about that, but again

1075
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: it does, like to Greg's point, you know, it gets

1076
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: another team in the mix. Um, let's read our blurbs.

1077
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at No, you can't pick. I'm just looking

1078
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: at the sentence and I was like, I could have

1079
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: done more with that. Yeah, but it had your name

1080
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and it went on the website, Like think of it

1081
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: that up yet you know I can still edit? All right, Well,

1082
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: you gotta go with what you sent in, Okay, please,

1083
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm stupid. Um. All right, let's actually let's get some

1084
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: dramatic music. Let's add the gravity toss here and gravity

1085
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: toss Zeuser bills over bucks. For decades, Tom Brady lorded

1086
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: over the a f C East with an iron fist.

1087
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Now it's Josh Allen's turn. To rule not just this division,

1088
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: but the whole of the football world. That was all right,

1089
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: let's save all right, this is good music. By the way,

1090
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I've got the Chargers over the Eagles in full bloom,

1091
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: justin Herbert emerges as the league's prize treasure under center.

1092
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: His m VB campaign serves as a rousing John through

1093
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: Pro Football's Wilderness Captain in the Arizona Desert with a

1094
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: fourteen play game winning overtime drive. Its final note Herbert

1095
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: scampering to pay dirt too off the favored Eagles. It's

1096
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: got a lot of essler checkmarks like Wilderness in it.

1097
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: I love it. That sounds like there were four fourth

1098
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: Don conversions on that four team players ending that argument.

1099
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: And now I actually actually have hit the music. I

1100
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: have Greg's Eagles win. They're the best. I love them.

1101
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: It's coming. It's basically, let's hear Eagles over Chiefs. Eagles

1102
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: fans won't be able to complain anymore after their second

1103
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: surprise Super Bowl in five years. Well, okay, it's shortened

1104
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: to the point. But also I know what you're saying,

1105
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: because Eagles fans like Gonzo and Connie Fox did a

1106
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: lot of complaining the last few years, not forgetting they

1107
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: had one of the more dramatic Super Bowl runs to

1108
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: beat Belichick and Brady and dramatic circumstances. They acted like

1109
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: they were still like a sad Jets or Browns or

1110
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: whatever fan the last couple of years, and now you're

1111
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna get more glory. But I think the way that

1112
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Greg did that, it doesn't need to be a long

1113
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: flower recomposition. It's like, I'm gonna hitch you one sentence

1114
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna be truth, and it's gonna hurt for some

1115
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: people to read. But in here, in some way, just

1116
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: doing some self reflection here. It's it's almost symbolic of um,

1117
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: some of my interpersonal problems. In a moment where various Yeah,

1118
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: in a moment where I'm actually making all those Eagles

1119
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: fans happy, I picked your team to surprisingly win the

1120
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I spend that one sentence instead taking a

1121
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: shot at all of them that they're a bunch of complaints.

1122
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: Such a good call. That's a level of self awareness

1123
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: that I really appreciate. Greg. You didn't experience you need

1124
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: them within the celebration of them winning another Super Bowl. Oh,

1125
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see though the paintings of Super

1126
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: Bowl Championship winning quarterbacks for the Eagles. I mean I

1127
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: did because we don't know what's gonna happen. So I

1128
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: picked one that I would like to see personally are

1129
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: loaded and I was gonna put Bengals and Charges are

1130
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: another team I would love to say in terms of

1131
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: realistic teams, those are teams I would love to see

1132
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: when the Super Boss. That's very close to putting one

1133
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: of them. But I'm just on the Chargers like I

1134
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: am like on the Knicks, like I said, just love

1135
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: the Knicks, Love Knicks. Oh they're so good, and they

1136
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: would just crush me. You've been hurt. I mean the Charges.

1137
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like twenty five years of like

1138
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, now you know I'm a Missouri guy. You

1139
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: gotta show me finally, So if it happens, I'm in.

1140
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Just even though some of those great Chargers teams with

1141
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: Rivers then they even if they did put together the

1142
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: regular season where they weren't snake bit, they trip on

1143
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: you know there, you know what, like in the playoffs,

1144
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: it's time. I also have done this like eight or

1145
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: nine years. I don't think I've ever gotten one super

1146
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: Bowl team from either conference correct, So picking Chargers over

1147
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: bad news. But that's also why our league is fun

1148
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: and why I think this podcast and part is so successful.

1149
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: It is like incredible that the Bengals came one drive

1150
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: away from winning the Super last year when nobody I guarantee,

1151
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: nobody had the Bengals and any of their predictions last

1152
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: not even to make the As I remember going back

1153
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: and checking on our on our website, no that we

1154
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: had this summer was was, oh, you know, Joe Burrow

1155
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: is not healthy, Jamar Chases dropping everything thrown his way.

1156
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: Suddenly it's like week one, it's like all those problems.

1157
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Just who's that team this year though? Who's that team

1158
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: that emerges from like the Swamplants? Well, I would I

1159
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: would say the Cowboys are the kind of thing where

1160
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: everyone's so down there. Maybe they're the people are downright

1161
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: our one team a lot of us winning the division. Yeah,

1162
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: but I mean, come on, like the Bengals. So you're

1163
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: saying organizationally team deep deep? Is it like like it

1164
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: like Washington, Well, the Raiders were a playoff team, like

1165
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: where it's clearly the New York Jets. Can we just

1166
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: move on and like all agree on that someone always

1167
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: goes worst to first. What about your Atlanta Falcon, Steve.

1168
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: You just know the schedules collected doing their Prefah, I

1169
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: know they're schedules to brutal. I tell you a sleeper team.

1170
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go to the super Bowl. But jackson

1171
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: is going to be better than what people think. They

1172
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: got players, and I think you know Doug Peterson and

1173
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: to the guys and that said Coach of the Year

1174
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: pick as well. Yeah, and they in that quarterback man

1175
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: talking to people, They're like, he's different, and now he's

1176
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: got some people who are teach him how to play

1177
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: the position. I don't know if you've got an offensive

1178
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: talent around him, but they've got some players on defense,

1179
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville could be a team that could rat truly

1180
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: ignored teams. The Panthers were the one. Now I kind

1181
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: of wish I threw them in there that I thought

1182
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: it's over like a nine or ten win season of

1183
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: a truly ignored I don't know about the super Bowl,

1184
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's possible with their Yeah, there's players.

1185
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: There's a great long form piece on Justin Tucker in

1186
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: the New York Times magazine. Um check it out if

1187
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: you are an interest in Tucker, the greatest kicker of

1188
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: all time, and it does make me think of Trevor Lawrence.

1189
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: Tucker was just a guy until he went to Baltimore.

1190
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: Had a real kicking coach that they had at that

1191
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: organization that took him to the next level and made

1192
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: him great. Like Trevor, Lawrence had no strung sure in

1193
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: support when he entered the NFL last year, and now

1194
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: he does and he has a better roster. I think

1195
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: things went great last year for the Jaguars. I'm not

1196
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: like if you look at it from you also went

1197
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: great reaching out to the listeners and saying, let's get

1198
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: a Steve Weisch theme song. Do you want to hear

1199
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: a few more before we say goodbye? Do you want

1200
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: to hear a few more Steve? We'll take We'll take?

1201
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 1: How many banger? That's right? I mean, you're you gonna

1202
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: play these at home for the family? I mean no,

1203
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: the uh there are some songs that can't How many

1204
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: songs have been written about you and performed in your life, Steve, Ah,

1205
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: that would be none. So listen, now, how about this one? Um?

1206
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: This is Ricky Williamson who calls himself. The fine aren't Rascal.

1207
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: Not the greatest vocal performance, but I love the effort. Okay, yeah,

1208
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: a little critical by grave Digger. We love you Steve.

1209
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: We love you Steve. Which we love you Steve Wi.

1210
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: We do? We love you Steve Wi. All rights not bad.

1211
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: We need to combine it sounds like a little to

1212
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: lasso out right. We need to combine that beat with

1213
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: the woman who sang on the second track. I think

1214
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: that's by the way. I'm sorry by that first guy,

1215
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: but that second song is that was this one yet?

1216
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: All right? We have a new favorite, at least a

1217
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: grave degree. This is from Jake the myth Smith. That

1218
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: rhymes Steve re born in daily on the pen if

1219
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: five on your TV, looking good ass hill. Steve the

1220
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: man's got sources, will never tells us he's got a

1221
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: bucket on Hiatus Falcons today. Oh that's good. We've been

1222
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: for a long time. That's good. I know, I could

1223
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 1: not believe a strong I just hope these listeners didn't

1224
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: become disillusioned with us. They never played my song, they

1225
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: never responded. It's been a year and a half. If

1226
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: they listen today, there what a pleasant surprise. That's kind

1227
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: of how did we pick a winner where we haven't

1228
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: picked it with it? I thought you suggested the first

1229
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: one was the winner. No, no, all right, let's listen

1230
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: to one more. I was going to go out on

1231
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: this one. Let's go out in this one. Let's say

1232
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: goodbye Steve. You've said it all. Thank you so much,

1233
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: thank you. This is one of the best wife appearances. Uh.

1234
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: And to the listeners out there, um, oh, we didn't

1235
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: say I know, we told you that around the NFC

1236
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: and forty eight minutes would be this show. I think

1237
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: by now you've probably figured out that that's not the case.

1238
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: We'll be doing that tomorrow, Patrick claibn our Thursday show,

1239
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out. And then next

1240
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: week is the start of the regular season, and we

1241
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: got a bunch of exciting stuff to announce for that.

1242
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that when we get to that.

1243
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Until Thursday, remember to heat the call and just respect

1244
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: Steve Wise, because the man has a whole album of

1245
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: tributes now and a podcast on h hit It. Here's

1246
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Evan Hornsby to play us out. He said one, what's

1247
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: out White hair Man? I like a bit about Boo

1248
01:05:48,000 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: Boo boo a bit about Steve on the podcast and

1249
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: everything is all right boys, Steve oh Men podcast and

1250
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: everything is all right Steve Wish boom shot. I know

1251
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about. They're now like five hundred people driving

1252
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: around Europe listening to that man. Our listeners came with it. Yeah,

1253
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm strong. Well, they were like hi,