1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis and Buck 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Second hour of the program, Friday edition. By 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: the way, we want to thank all of you out 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: there who have been so fantastic for us. As we 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: said on Monday, we know that no one is ever 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: going to replace Russian Limbaugh, but we have been so 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: excited to talk to you guys and continue to build 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and fight the battles that matter so much to him, 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: and you guys have been incredibly welcoming to us so far. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: It has been a fabulous week and we thank you. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: We want to let you know we're about to go 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: to your calls, and I want just law enforcement on 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: these calls because of the story we're about to discuss. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two is 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the phone number you can always go follow us Clay 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: and Buck dot com is the website at Clay and 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Buck on Twitter and Facebook. Also, I'm at Clay Travis, 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: he is at Buck Sexton. I want to make sure 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: we hit this before we discuss the major issue that 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: law enforcement is dealing with right now. Front page New 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: York Times story they even are addressing the war. I 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say on police in this country 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and Buck, we were talking about the Canada crazy COVID story, 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and I do think we have to continue to fight 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: the battle out there because there's still a massive amount 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: of big tech censorship going on even as the COVID 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: pandemic is waning substantially. In the United States, there are 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: no allowance of the vaccine and some of the challenges 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: that are occurring with the vaccine in terms of being 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: discussed on social media, in particular what I mean they 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: are censoring right now at Facebook, the who recommendation that 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: people under the age of eighteen don't need this vaccine, 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: and also censoring any discussion of HERD immunity. You and 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I both would fit in the herd immunity category because 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: we both have had COVID, We have COVID to bodies. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 1: We have not yet gotten the vaccine because the purpose 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: of getting the vaccine is to have the COVID antibodies 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: that we already have. And I've said I said this 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: on Monday on the show. I will not allow my 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: kids thirteen, ten and six to get the COVID vaccine 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: because they are under no statistical danger from COVID, and 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm not anti vax. My kids have got the measles, 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: the moms, the rubella, all of the young kid vaccines 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: that you get, but I'm not going to get them 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: treated for a vaccine when if they got COVID, they 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: would never even know they had it. And statistically, they 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: are under more danger getting in a car with me 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: and driving to school than they are from anything that 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: might happen to them in the larger world. All my 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: kids are at camp in fact, right now, thank god 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: the camps are open and allowing them to go out 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: and live a normal life as young kids. But this 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: is still a major issue. Buck Big tech, even as 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: COVID is waning, is censoring what we are able to 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: share on our social media feeds, and everyone should know 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: that that's not going to stop with this issue. The 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: precedent has now been set and it's going to continue 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: that the most powerful platforms for speech communications for the 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: dissemination of information. I mean, we're here on radio, so 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: we're kicking at old school. But for the most part, 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: now people are getting their news online. They're getting their 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: information from digital sources in so many different contexts. And 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that not only did 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: they use it's too dangerous for there to be false 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: information about COVID as a justification for really egregious censorship 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: that they ended up being wrong on, by the way, 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: which I think everyone needs to remember, there were things 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: like the Wuhan lab leak theory that we're suppressed and 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: there's more and more information. Clay I want to want 71 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to hit that and go into deeper detail about it, 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: probably next week. But they were wrong on things that 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: they censored unto the premise that they knew what they 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: were doing was right and it was dangerous to allow 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: what turned out to be truthful information to get out there. 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Now they've done it on the election as well. As 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you say the wrong thing about the 78 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election results, you can be kicked off of 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: social media. Just give it time. Give it time. And 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: if you say there can't be criticism of climate change, 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: there can't be criticism of climate change as an existential threat, 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: or that gun violence is an imminent issue, that whatever 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: it may be, there will be the utilization, the mobilization 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: of the censorship resources against the disfavored opinion of the 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: right thought police. Thought police are alive and well in 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: our society, and Buck, I know we talked about this 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: off air. One of the reasons why both of us 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: you had a very successful show, I had a very 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: successful show. One of the big reasons we wanted to 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: come and work together on this show was because of 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: what we saw happening with big Tech Radio. We can 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: still talk to you guys, thanks to Premiere, thanks to iHeart, 93 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: thanks to Julie Talbot, our boss Bob Pittman, and allowing 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: the dissemination of information to actually get out there radio 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: what's old can sometimes be new again, Buck, We're one 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: of the most reliable mediums to be able to actually 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: share the truth with our audience. By the way, go 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast or rate us, find us wherever 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: you can. But this is one of the places where 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: we can't be censored. Thank God for what Rush Limbaugh did. 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: It matters even more when you look at the power 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: of Facebook, Twitter, the Amazons, look at what they did 103 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: to Parlor, look at what they're doing with stories that 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: they don't like. In the name and I'm quotation marking 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: here of science, I also have to say there is 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: a part of me that is happy to see the 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: beginnings of a real movement on the right too. They 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: used to joke around, you know, build your own platform, 109 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: and that it became build your own Internet. There's a 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: lot out there now. And by the way, Trump is 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be saying something about this next week. There 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: have been a lot of people that have been hinting 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: toward some new platform or some initiative that will allow 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Trump to have the same voice you did in the past. 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: But they've been the left has been mocking us, saying, 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: build your own platform, build your own Internet. They should 117 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: be careful what they wish for, because there's a lot 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: underway right now that I think it's going to change 119 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: the game. But I know you've also got this story 120 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: about police retirements that we want to get into. We've 121 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of law enforcement already wanted to 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: call in. Yeah, and let me go ahead and mention 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: this too. While we're mentioning President Trump. If you missed 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: it in the first hour, he is going to be 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: with us, scheduled to be with us on Tuesday of 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: next week as our very first guest. We're excited about that. 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: That's the day before he goes to the border and 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: surveys the situation down there. So just so you know, 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: next week Tuesday, first guest, right about this time, we 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: should be talking with the foreign President of the United States, 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, So that will be a lot of fun. Now, Buck, 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: we have been talking about on this program how we've 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: seen a remarkable pivot when it comes to the defund 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: the police argument. New York City two year police veteran 135 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a probably the massive 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: favorite to be the Democratic nominee for mayor. We've got 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden Joe Biden focusing on guns. Everybody 138 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: is aware of what's going on with the crime issues 139 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: all over the country. We talked about Thomas Friedman in 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the New York Times, who's sort of the voice of 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: I would say the mainstream left in many ways in 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: his column, and we now have a front page article 143 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in the New York Times talking about a massive issue 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: that is facing our country right now. Not only the 145 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: crime wave, murderates up thirty percent last year, up an 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: additional twenty four percent this year. All over the country 147 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: wherever you're listening to us, crime is skyrocketing, and police 148 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: are so disrespected now because of the defund the police 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: movement that they are bailing in a massive way. And 150 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: here's some data for you, Buck. A survey of two 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: hundred police departments. This is from the New York Times 152 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: article indicated retirements were up forty five percent in the 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: past year and resignations rose by eighteen percent. New York City, 154 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty six hundred officers retired in twenty twenty, compared with 155 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: only fifteen hundred the year before. Seattle, they have quadruple 156 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: the number of resignations have in Minneapolis, we have seen 157 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: the number of uniform police officers take a dive from 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: nine hundred and twelve all the way down to under 159 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred. And this article in particulars focused on Asheville, 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Buck, I saw these numbers. They had a 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty eight strong force. Eighty a third 162 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: of their police officers have bailed in Asheville, North Carolina. 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: This is happening everywhere because of the Democratic war on police. 164 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean in military terms, this starts to create what 165 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: you would call a unit that would be combat ineffective 166 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: when you lose so many people because there's a whole 167 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: tooth to tail ratio and how much of the job. 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Can you even do if you lose a third of 169 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: your force? And this is already playing out in places 170 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: like Portland, whereas we mentioned earlier in the week, they're 171 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: deciding to enforce fewer laws on the premise that they 172 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: don't have enough cops to enforce all the laws on 173 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: the books, and are skipping past that whole point of well, 174 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: you have fewer cops because they're resigning, they're leaving, they're 175 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: retiring early. Because you've embraced defund the police, at least 176 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: at a narrative, at a political level, as well as 177 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: in some cases in a financial sense too. And actually 178 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: this results in budget cuts. It also means fewer people 179 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: coming into the police training academies in different cities. It 180 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: also means that you're going to have law enforcement Now 181 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: that was thinking, Hey, hold on a second, do I 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: want to encourage other people to go into this profession right? 183 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: What's the one of the things that you always think 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: about is talk to the people that have been in 185 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: the place you want to be professionally. If they hate it, 186 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: it's a very good reason for you to say, maybe 187 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I'll think about something else. I know a lot of 188 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: cops Clay who right now are saying, why put yourself 189 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: in this risk, in this role and take the risk. 190 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: Keep in mind when you're looking at the changing political 191 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: wins here against cops, which is all pushed by Democrats, 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: even though we'll get to some of the nonsense they're 193 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: pushing now about how oh it's Republicans too. Where Republicans 194 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: are you know, the party that's anti police because they're 195 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: they're desperate, they're pathetic. This narrative now is so clear 196 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: that that defund and the BLM movement were dangerous and 197 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: bad for cities all across the country. When you look 198 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: at the data. Now we start to pull all this 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: together and we say we'll hold on. How do we 200 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: fix it? The only way to fix it would be 201 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: to do the things that they say they would never 202 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: want to do, which would be undermining the very basis 203 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,239 Speaker 1: of this, which is law enforcement is systematically racist. They 204 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: have if they won't walk away from that, this doesn't change, 205 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Oh it just one quick thing. People are risking their pensions. 206 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: That's really what this comes down to. When you're close 207 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: to retirement, you work for twenty years, you've had to 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: wrestle guys and people to the ground you've had to 209 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: possibly even get shot at, You've had to carry a badge, 210 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: and you lose your pension. Nah, they're going to leave early. 211 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: That's what ends up happening. We got a lot of people. 212 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: I said, I only want law enforcement officers to call 213 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: in and let us know about your experiences. We're going 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: to start with these. We're going to continue into them 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: in the next segment, but let me go ahead and 216 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: start with Alan down in El Paso, Texas. I want 217 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: to hear from the law enforcement officers on the ground. 218 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: What are you guys seeing. Thanks for calling, Allen, Thank 219 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: you for having me on. It's a great honor to 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: be on your show. Well, we appreciate you. What are 221 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: you seeing in El Paso? Well, I have a part 222 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: time job as a transport officer for the Board of 223 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Patrol and Kamala Harris is visiting a facility in El 224 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Paso today and the word is out that I'll detainees 225 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: or to be held at the outlining Board Patrol stations 226 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: until she's gone so that she can go into a nice, clean, 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: uncrowded facility. Wow, so they're actually changing the optics. I 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: mean they are literally stage managing this thing in a 229 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: way that the American people will see Kamala at facilities 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: that look less crowded than they actually are. Yeah, and 231 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: I doubt she's going to go to Fort Polis where 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: they have one thousand, six hundred juveniles in an extremely 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: overcrowded facility. She's going to go to this nice new 234 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: facility called the Central Processing Facility and all the outline 235 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: board patrol facilities send their detainees in there, and there 236 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: they make the determination, you know, what they're going to 237 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: do with them. What's the Alan What's what's the flow 238 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: like in al Paso right now? Because it McAllen had been. 239 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: McAllen sector had been where they had the highest numbers, 240 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: that has it shifted to El Paso. Well, Santa Padesa 241 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: New Mexico, which is in El Paso sector is either 242 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: the second or the third busiest board of patrol station 243 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: every month in terms of apprehensions and getaways because there's 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: a huge stretch of the border there that's owned by 245 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, and the Trump administration was making a 246 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: deal to build the wall in that sector, but it 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: isn't there. The deal of course when went away once 248 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the Biden's took over What have you seen, Alan, What 249 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: have you seen in your experience since Joe Biden took 250 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: over compared to when Trump was in charge. May of 251 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was the worst month when President Trump was 252 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: in office about one hundred and forty thousand apprehensions, and 253 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: pretty much every month that Biden's been president, we've exceeded that. Wow, 254 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: so every month this worse than the worst Trump month. 255 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty clearly put Allen. We appreciate the 256 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: expertise and for bringing this to folks listening all across 257 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: the country. Thank you so very much, Keith, and not 258 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: actually you know what. Keith will come to you in 259 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: just a second to take all these calls when we 260 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: come back. But first we want to talk with you 261 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: guys about the importance of being able to protect. We 262 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: were just talking about big tech and everything they do 263 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: buck in terms of trying to take control of your life. 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Since or you, that's why I choose to protect my 265 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: online activity by using Express VPN. 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I'm Buck, 285 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: He's Clay. We got lots of folks from law enforcement 286 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: calling in and get to that in just a second. 287 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com is the website clayin Buck 288 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: dot com and on Twitter, on Facebook and Instagraham follow 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: us on up. I will post some cute tallula photos. 290 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: If you follow Buck Sexton on Instagram, that's my promise 291 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: you and Clay. Clay does fun things on the weekends. 292 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: He coaches sports and goes. I got three boys so 293 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not a big picture guy, but when I 294 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: do post, it usually tends to be family stuff. So 295 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: let's get to some calls here, Keith in Knox County, 296 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Illinois activity Remember law enforcement? Keith, you're on the Clay 297 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Travison buck Sexton Show. Oh Hi, how are you? We're 298 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: good man? What's up? Well? I just so I work 299 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: at a smaller like it was a larger county. It's 300 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: it consist of seven hundred and fifty square miles, so 301 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: we cover play bit of area. But uh, we're we're 302 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: like the midwest Illinois. And uh and I just want 303 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: to say that there's uh, I mean, there's a lot 304 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: of political rhetoric going on up north, you know, in 305 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: the Chicago area. But I just I feel like I 306 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: haven't like stilted its way down to our area yet. 307 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: And uh. And so I just you know, I'm to 308 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: the news or something nice here, and I see like 309 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: about these larger departments, which I feel bad for these officers. 310 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: You know they're all flitting in that, but there's a 311 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: lot of rural areas too, just throughout the entire country 312 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: and uh and so I don't want to discourage, you know, 313 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: other people from being the police. You know. It's it's 314 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot we need more police officer. You know, 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: we're trying to like recruit good police officers here. We're 316 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: worried that people aren't doing it in places like Portland 317 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles and New York and uh and you know, 318 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Chicago and Atlanta. That's our our concern is that people 319 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: aren't showing up at those places. But you're it seems 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: like you're telling us there are a lot of good 321 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: departments out there that aren't in the big cities. Very 322 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: much to absolutely thank you for the call. Let's go 323 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: to Chris and Madison, Mississippi. Chris, what you got for us. 324 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's an honor to be on 325 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: the show. I appreciate it. Great fan of Buck Sexton 326 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: and learning to be a fan of Clay Travis. Thank 327 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: you so much. My mom appreciates that. Thank you. I 328 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: think you're welcome. I'm calling from Madison, Mississippi. Great law 329 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: enforcement agencies here with Madison County Madison Police Department. If 330 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: I can real quick, if you'll indulge me, we have 331 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: a one of our law enforcement officers here, school Resource 332 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: Officer Corey Ray, that has been fighting his life for 333 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the better part of a year here with some medical conditions. 334 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: In this community has really rallied around him. But to 335 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: get to the points that I made, Chris, Chris, can 336 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: we actually hold you and we'll bring you back on 337 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the other side, because we've got to go to a 338 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: hard break here, but we'll hold you. We're gonna we're 339 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna listen what you have to say from down to Mississippi. 340 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: Just give us one second, be patient with us, stay 341 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: with us. We'll come back. 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You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck 361 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Fund the EIB Network. Welcome back to the Clay 362 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Make sure you check out 363 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: our stuff on social media. I am at Buck Sexton 364 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. He is Clay Travis on those 365 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: same platforms. Now Load our podcast to Clay Travis and 366 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast, which is rocking it up the charts. 367 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: But let's get back to Chris. Chris, thank you so 368 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: much in Mississippi for being so patient with us. So 369 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: what was it you wanted to say? As a recently 370 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: retired FBI agent well, I think some of the things 371 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: that I started noticing towards the end of my career 372 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: were twosh two primary issues with some of the younger 373 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: agents coming in. First, I think it resulted from the 374 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: distance from nine to eleven. I was in the Washington 375 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: Field office on that Tuesday morning, actually helped work a 376 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: little bit at the rubble pile. Gone, spent some time 377 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: over in Baghdad and terrogating in one of the Baghdad 378 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: prisons over there. May have crossed passed when you were 379 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: over there, Buck, can either confirm nor deny. Go ahead. Yeah. 380 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: The two issues that I saw were confirmation bias in 381 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the setting of narratives and confirmation biases. It is terrible 382 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: for an investigator to engage in confirmation bias. And for 383 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: those that don't understand, it means coming to a conclusion 384 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: and then excluding things that may contradict the conclusion that 385 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: you came into. I think it's called being a liberal too, 386 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: by the way, But go but but Chris, I hear you. Yeah. 387 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: The other is the setting of a narrative. Now, typically 388 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: the marching orders come in from the President, Congress, DJ 389 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: and trickle down into the FBI. And I think what 390 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: you're having right now, especially dealing with this white supremacy issue, 391 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: is the marching orders are to go out there and 392 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: find it. Whether it exists or not, is going to 393 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: be a list of questions, intelligence requirements that are going 394 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to have to occur, and whether you find it or not, 395 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: you're going to have to contact everyone that they said 396 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: to contact and follow up that information. The problem we 397 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: have with it is you're not trusting the agents that 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: are on the ground that have been there for a 399 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: long time that can probably answer a lot of those 400 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: questions based on their experience. Chris, really appreciate you sharing 401 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: your experience and your insights on this man, and thank 402 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: you again for your patients through that break. Barry in Reading, 403 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania retired law enforcement who unretired Barry tell us about this. Yeah, 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: I walked away from the job about it was in 405 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: September of twenty seventeen. I had twenty five and a 406 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: half years on and I left to become a work 407 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: in a school as a safe school director, basically as 408 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: a school police officer trying to influence the kids. And 409 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: that went well for about a two and a half years, 410 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: and then something's happened and I had a falling out 411 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: with the administration and I ended up leaving. And then 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: last year when the George Boyd thing happened and the 413 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: protests and that all uh in the negative publicity stories 414 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: for the towards law enforcement, I said, enough, I'm going back. Uh, 415 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to destroy what I've served 416 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: in since I was you know, since I was a 417 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: cadet at West Point. You know, I decided, uh, you know, 418 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: a duty on our country. I felt it was my 419 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: duty to go back. You know, I was going to 420 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: fight for this country because the way I felt a 421 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: battle was if not us, then who's going to do it. Well, 422 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: we're glad that you did that, Barry. What has the 423 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 1: response been like in reading to law enforcement in your experience, all, 424 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: Aley has been pretty good. We've had some protests, uh uh, 425 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: not enough in major but we've had some some issues, 426 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: but overall, generally we have a pretty good rapport with 427 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the uh, the public. And you know that's what I 428 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: always tried my best to stop and talk to people 429 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: and answer their questions and you know, ask them, you know, 430 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about what's going on? 431 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: And if you talk to them on on one, and 432 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: you have that time and you can explain to them 433 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: why certain things are done the way they are, because 434 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to get that from what you see 435 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: on TV. And no doubt, we'll talk to them about 436 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: certain shootings in certain situations, and I can give them 437 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: videos why certain things happen the way they do, and 438 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: you can usually convince people, but you'll never get that 439 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: from the mainstream media. So it's a shame. I agree. 440 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Thank you Barry for coming back. Thank you for the 441 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: work that you're doing. We're trying to get as many 442 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: different law enforcement personnel as we can from as many 443 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: different parts of the country. If you just started listening 444 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: to us, we're reacting to the massive resignation and retirement 445 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: that we are seeing as police are being disrespected wildly 446 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: across this country. George in Lawton, Oklahoma, George, thanks for 447 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: calling in. How's it going, sir? Hey? First off, I'd 448 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: like to give a shout out to all the citizens 449 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: a Latton who support us, because our citizens here do 450 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: support us quite a bit. We are facing a quite 451 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: a few officers leaving. We're actually down below where we 452 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: should have been for a while. Now, We're we've got 453 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: an academy that's getting ready to graduate or they have graduating, 454 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: their starting their FTO next week. Uh. But you know, 455 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: since I retired from the military in twenty thirteen, became 456 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: a police officer in twenty fourteen, and it's it's been 457 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: pretty rough for us to attract officers yet since around 458 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: that time, since the Michael Brown incident. But you know, 459 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: hopefully folks will start waking up because all of this 460 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: stuff is is tought down issues. It's it's from the 461 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: it's from the government. I mean, yeah, George, we think 462 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: it's actually First of all, George, thank you for doing 463 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: what you do and keeping the streets streets safe. They're 464 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: out in Lawton, Oklahoma, and and just I think we 465 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: are at the turning of the tide here where back 466 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: the blue is going to be something that you're not 467 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: just hearing more, but you're seeing and feeling more in 468 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: places where that hasn't necessarily now. I think law in Oklahoma, 469 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: as he says, a lot of support for law enforcement, 470 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: but in the major cities, and you know, we got 471 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners because you've got a lot of 472 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: people that are conservatives and a lot of Republicans who 473 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: live in these big cities, even as crazy blue as 474 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: they are, they're dealing with a different reality. And with 475 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: that in mind, John in Fresno, California, not a huge city, 476 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: But John, what are you? What are you hearing and seeing? Well? 477 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: I retired from an environmental law enforcement agency at the 478 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: end of last year. I'd been serving for about thirty 479 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: three years, and to be honest with you, I couldn't 480 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: put it. Being a part law enforcement part regulatory. Started 481 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: to see basically a degradation of common sense within our agency, 482 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: people who would have been regulators who basically were abusing 483 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: their authority, and one of my jobs was to keep 484 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: them from doing that. In addition to that, I had 485 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: to sit through a critical race theory class last year 486 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: where I was basically told, as a member of law 487 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: enforcement that I was part of the problem and there 488 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: was nothing I could do to fix it. And that's 489 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: the problem with critical race theory in general, John, as 490 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: we've been talking about on this show, your whiteness makes 491 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: you the problem, and there's virtually nothing you can do 492 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: to solve the problem, exactly, And I was I was 493 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: some of flower guests to be told by professors from 494 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: eminent California universities. That was just absolutely who didn't know me, 495 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about me, but that I was an 496 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: out and out racist. And I finally, you know, this 497 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: being directed from the highest levels of state government. I 498 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: just I couldn't put up with it anymore. And then 499 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: we also had we sent officers to help out with 500 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: some of the rioting that occurred in California last year. 501 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: We wound up losing an officer who's just basically said, 502 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. And we're seeing more and 503 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: more of that with our younger officers. And I was 504 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: in a command staff we lost. We have seven upper 505 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: command staff. The three of us retired at the end 506 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: of last year. We just couldn't do it anymore. Well, 507 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: we appreciate the thirty three years from you. I want 508 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: to get Bruce, he says, he's on the road to Phoenix. 509 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: He was a police officer for forty four years. Get 510 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: him in quickly here. Thank you for all your service 511 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: forty four years as a police officer. You just retired. 512 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: How bad did it get at the end. Yes, the 513 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: climate now is very difficult for the officers. And like 514 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: I was telling the screener, it goes from the top 515 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: when we had a president, when Michael Brown happened and 516 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: sayings a Trayvon Martin when he said I feel your 517 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: rage instead of do what the popo tell you. People 518 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: are so much more confrontational. Now, yes, well thank you. 519 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: That's very difficult on the street. Yeah, thanks for the 520 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: thanks for the calling, thanks for your work. I don't 521 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: think there's any doubt if every single person just complied 522 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: with police. So I tell my kids from a lawyer perspective, 523 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: you can sue if you're being mistreated. You can defend 524 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: yourself down the line. We have a constitution. But listen 525 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: to police officers, do what they tell you. And all 526 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: of these escalated events. Buck you know, you spend eighteen 527 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: months working with the NYPD. When you accelerate and don't 528 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: listen to police and don't comply, that's where all these 529 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: situations occur. Overwhelmingly, there's that resistance to initial commands and 530 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: also often an overt hostility to law enforce. And they'll 531 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: they'll teach this and some of the academy. Now I 532 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: did not go through police academy. I did training with 533 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: the CIA, which is very different. But they'll they do 534 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: tell people and I know this that the likelihood of 535 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: a violent confrontation with law enforcement officers if the individual 536 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: suspect or whatever the case may be, believes that they 537 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: have a weakness coming from the side of law enforcement 538 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: dramatically escalating, no doubt, if someone thinks that this cop 539 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: is not in command of the situation, not asserting control 540 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: and not Now, that doesn't mean you can't be polite 541 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: and respectful. As you know, ninety nine point nine percent 542 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: of law enforcement interactions with citizens are. But if if 543 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: a perpetrator feels like a cop is a little tentative, 544 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: can get pushed around a little bit, the likelihood for escalation, 545 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: whether it's just resisting arrest or much more severe than that, which, 546 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: unfortunately videos showing what's happened to some cops in recent months, 547 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: goes up dramatically. Clay, when we come back, we are 548 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: going to play a clip from Jalen Rose. He is 549 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: an ESPN commentator, where he is ridiculing a white basketball player. 550 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this. A lot of 551 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you out there, long time listeners, will remember what happened 552 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: to Rush Limbaugh when he was on ES. The divergence 553 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: in treatment is mind blowing. But I don't think it's 554 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: going to surprise you. We're going to discuss that coming 555 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: up here momentarily, but first the Tunnel the Towers Foundation 556 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: helps us keep our commitment to never forget. This year, 557 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: the Foundation's honoring GoldStar and fallen first responder families with 558 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: young children and catastrophically injured veterans and first responders with 559 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: two hundred mortgage free homes. 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That's t the number two 573 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: t dot Org walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, 574 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: finishing off the second hour of the program Friday edition. 575 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: I tease this. I want you to hear it. I 576 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: want you to listen to it. We're gonna break it 577 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: down for you. This is yesterday ESPN. Jalen Rose, who 578 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: talks about the NBA for a living at ESPN, he 579 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: was talking about the new United States Olympic team and 580 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: all of the people that were named on it. Kevin 581 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Love is a white guy, and that's totally unacceptable to 582 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Rose. Listen to this. I'm excited about the roster, 583 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: and I assume and I know we're gonna win the goal. 584 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: But I'm disappointed in something. As I do this show 585 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: every day, I do it in front of a pitcher 586 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: of Tommy Smith and John Carlos raising their fists at 587 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics. I also know the favoritism that Christian Latner 588 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: was shown when he got a chance to be put 589 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: on the Dream Team ahead of Shot and Alonso. But 590 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: they made it so that a college player can even 591 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: get on and gave him favoritism. But this level of 592 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: and I got a word for it. Kevin Love is 593 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: on the team because of tokenism. Don't be scared to 594 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: make an all black team representing the United States of America. 595 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed by that. Anybody that watched the league this 596 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: year knows Kevin Love did not have a stellar season, 597 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: was not the best player on his team. It did 598 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily deserve to be on this squad. And I'm 599 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: not gonna take him off the squad and not put 600 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: somebody else on it. I'm gonna tell you whose spot 601 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: that should be. DeAndre Ayton should have Kevin Love spot. 602 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: And I'm disappointing the team usaying but not having the 603 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: courage to send an all black team to the Olympics. Wow, Clay, 604 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: I had you heard that? Yes? I had not. That 605 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: was a first reaction for me. And we all know 606 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: we're about to get into how the If we changed 607 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: around some of the details here, it would just be 608 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: a story that would the media would be, you know, 609 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: a five alarm fire on how they're recovering this. But 610 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Love on the merits should he? Should he be 611 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: on this team? I wanted to ask you them and 612 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: what's what's the people used to try to pretend that 613 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick was a much better player than he actually 614 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: was by the time he went woke, and I knew 615 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: enough about football to know na he actually wasn't that good. 616 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: So the challenge that the Olympic team has in general 617 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: is lots of players don't want to play because there's 618 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: been such a compressed schedule since COVID happened, so a 619 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of people have turned down the opportunity. They need 620 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: a big man, the one that Jalen Rhodes are referenced. 621 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton is actually from the Bahamas, so technically he's 622 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: not an American citizen. I'm not sure if he's become 623 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: a full naturalized American citizen, yet he plays for the 624 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns right now. I don't believe that he has. 625 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: Also Jalen Rose saying that the reason why Kevin Love 626 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: is on is because he's a white guy, and because 627 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: he's tokenism, and because they're afraid of having an all 628 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: black team. They had an all black team in twenty 629 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: sixteen and nobody cared because they were the best players 630 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: in the country. And I think the shift here is 631 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: really kind of fascinating because if a white commentator hockey 632 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly white sport, right, not a big surprise there. We 633 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: have an American hockey team that plays for the Olympics, 634 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: the winner Olympics. If we had a black hockey player 635 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: and a white commentator came out and said this is tokenism, 636 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: that player is on only because of their race, that 637 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: commentator would be fired within the hour of the statement 638 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: being made. Jalen Rose can falsely, first of all, assert 639 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: that America is not willing to have an all black 640 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: basketball team for the Olympics. We've had it before in 641 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand and four, two thousand and eight, 642 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and two thousand sixteen. Kevin wobb was previously on the 643 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: team in twenty twelve. To the extent buck he's getting favoritism, 644 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: it's because he's already been a member of the team before, 645 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: and they know that he's a good teammate and that 646 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: he's a big man, something that is in short supply. 647 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: But what I think is utterly fascinating here is Russia. 648 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: Limbaugh lost his job at this same network for pointing 649 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: out a truth, which was many media members were rooting 650 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: for Donovan McNabb because he was black and they wanted 651 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: to see a black quarterback succeed. That's one hundred percent 652 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: true Russia Limball lost his job for that. Jalen Rose 653 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: will get almost no criticism because the standard of speech 654 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: is not even in the world of sports or in 655 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: the larger universe when it comes to race. And everyone 656 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: has to keep in mind that what Clay's talking about 657 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: here as it applies to the sports world, we're seeing 658 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: now all across the country in corporate Americas, in schools 659 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: and teaching and the week we point out that there's 660 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: a double standard. Understand that, whether CRT critical race theory, 661 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: which has been getting a lot more attention, whether it's 662 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: at school board meetings or in the boardrooms or on TV, 663 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: CRT explicitly demands double standards. This left wing racial Marxism 664 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: that is always being pushed insists that you treat people 665 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: differently on the basis of skin color, because they claim 666 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: that the foundational claim, and the one that's so divisive 667 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: and I think so untrue, is that this country is 668 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: deeply racist to begin with. Therefore, to balance it out, 669 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: you must treat people differently as a function of law, 670 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: as a function of the way they can speak in 671 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: society and be treated to. You know, treated well by 672 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: their company or by their peers. So it is explicitly 673 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: double standard. That's the whole point we pointed out, but 674 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: everyone should understand that's where it gets. Speaking of speech, 675 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: you know there are a bunch of words that you're 676 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: not supposed to say anymore. The woke brigade has come 677 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: for some words, aviation terms, and a whole bunch of 678 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: others will break it down for you just a few minutes. 679 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 680 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: EIB Network.