1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Podcast play Gown. Welcome to Taking a Walk, an excursion 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: to converse, connect and catch up at a cool location 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: with some of the most interesting people you can find. 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Here's Buzznight. I love taking a walk with a friend 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: at a location that holds a special place in my heart. 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: It's especially joyous when the friend is someone you haven't 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: connected with for quite some time. Today I hit the 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: jackpot on this episode of Taking a Walk. The location 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: is Boston, Massachusetts and the spectacular Boston Common and the 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Public Garden. The Common is a central public park in 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: downtown Boston, the oldest city park in the United States 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: with tremendous historical significance, and the Public Garden is the 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: first look botanical garden in America and is twenty four 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: acres of landscape beauty. It also happens to be one 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite places to take a walk. My guest 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: is a presidential historian, Pulitzer Prize winning author, political commentator, 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: and dear friend, the one and only Doris Kern's Goodwin. 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: Hello Doris, Hello Bussy. I miss you so much. It's 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: been so long, and I'm here to report the whole 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: gang back and conquered. And Carlisle at all points. Misses 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: you so much as well. Oh, I miss Conquered so much. 22 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean more than forty years of my life. The 23 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: most beautiful town I think in this state. But it's 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: good to be in the city. It's good to be 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: around people, to not be using a car, to be 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: walking everywhere. My son lives in my building. Michael comes 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: in from Conquered a lot, so I don't feel too 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: far distant, but I do miss you guys and our 29 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: nightly there's so it seemed at one of the restaurants 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: in Conquered. Yeah, it would be so awesome. We would 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: we would see Doris come back from from one of 32 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: her many sojourns, and Norris would come back from her 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: from her trip and she'd be excited and energized, and 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: we said, well, where were you, and she'd say, you 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: just drop these little things, like well I was with 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: President Obaba at the White House and she just dropped 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: it casually. It was a wonderful thing. You know. It 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: was sort of a gang of us who could meet 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: there and you'd know, it's almost like family. You could 40 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: just catch up, you know, and you just had seen 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: them three days or four days before, so it really 42 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: was a part of what Dick and I loved about Conquered. 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm knowing those last years of his life, 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: we'd be driving from our house down Monument Street, you know, 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: to the Colonial in or to Fiorella's, and he would 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: just say over and over again how he loved that town. 47 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: He always had wanted to live more in the country, 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: and I always wanted to live in the city. So 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: our compromise was conquered. He would have gone even further out, 50 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: or he would have lived up in Maine, and I 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: don't know that I would have been able to not 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: be near a city. So after he died, it just 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: made sense to not be in that big house alone 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: and to come to a condo here in Boston. And 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: what's turned out wonderfully is that I really do love cities, 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: and I really can walk everywhere, which I hardly ever 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: did and Conquered. I mean even I used to think, well, 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I'll walk into town, but you know, somehow I wasn't 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: doing as much walking there, and that's my main exercise here. 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't go to the gym. But I argue that 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I can walk because where I live you can walk everywhere, 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: and the park is right here. Yeah, so we've decided 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: to take a walk first here on the Boston Common. 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Fairly notorious place, I would say, right, lots of history 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: in this place. While god so, I mean, one thing, 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: as I was thinking about it, is Martin Luther King 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: giving a speech here in front of twenty two thousand people. 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: You were you in DC when that was no I 69 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: think maybe what you're talking about is the speech he gave, 70 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: the anti war speech. He gave an anti war speech 71 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: in Boston that I do know about, and you know, 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: and just because I live in different layers of history 73 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: and you passed by all these statues of people. You know, 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: there's Charles Sumner and there's somebody else. It's just well, 75 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: we have it in conquered too. But you do feel 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: like there used to be snowball fights right here on 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: the Common between the Irish and the Protestants, and I 78 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: know about that, and you know about the one days 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: when the cows were here. So it's great. It makes 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: you feel like you're not just living in our time. 81 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: That's what's so great about Boston to have preserved his 82 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: past so well. Do you think people rediscovered the outdoors 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: differently during the whole pandemic situation. That's a really interesting question. 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I really think that's true, and it's 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. And I think also with some of 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: these places such as the North Bridge and even walled 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: and people rediscovered those places as well. I know I did. 88 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: I mean I was usually never home during the week 89 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I was traveling. I would see the places on the weekend, 90 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: but I rediscovered places as well with the two dog 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: walks a day that I was required to take, and 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: it was beautiful to find these places are rediscovered place. No, 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: there's no question. I mean, it's wonderful to walk amid 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: beautiful scenery no matter where you are, but to also 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: add on to that as you can and conquered and 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: as you can in Boston, the history that's there. So 97 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: you're not just going to see the river when you 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: see the North Bridge, you're remembering what it was like 99 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: when you know when the first shot was fired there 100 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: and hear you hear the sounds of it, and you 101 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: imagine what took place. So I think that's what's great 102 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: about any kind of place that preserves its past and 103 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: it's got the outdoors and the natural beauty and the 104 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: history and the memories all tied together, and you've been 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: back on the road once again. Yeah, things have opened 106 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: up again. I mean, for better or ill. I think 107 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: many places that are event planners decided we better do 108 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: it now, and we need to get together. And you 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: can feel that hunger and just the mere fact of 110 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: being together produces such joy. You realize what you missed 111 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: when those human connections were taken away from us. I 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: was thinking about this, just how musicians are so desirous 113 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: to get back on the road and play in front 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: of their fans. You being the rock star that you are, 115 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: missed that contact as well out there, right, So you're 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: back out and you're connecting in a different way. I'm 117 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: sure Virtual was spectacular in its own regard, but now 118 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: you're connecting with the fans. Yeah, there's no question. I mean, obviously, 119 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: writing is a solitary occupation, and that's been my major occupation. 120 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: But for all the years that I was writing, Dick 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: would be writing in an They're part of the house 122 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: so that we could get together at lunch and we'd 123 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: go out to dinner. So when I came here right 124 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: before the COVID started, I was really in the condo 125 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: for a long period of time. And luckily my son 126 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: being two blue doors two floors away, meant that I 127 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: could see him as a pod and I saw my 128 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: little grandson grow from one and a half to three, 129 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: things I wouldn't have seen had I lived and conquered, 130 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: had I had my regular life. But I really missed 131 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: seeing the people. What's wonderful about lecturing for me has 132 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: been it's all different kinds of people. I mean I 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: spoke just recently to emergency physicians and then to real 134 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: estate people, and then to the Cincinnati Library. And each 135 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: time you're in a different place, you're with a different 136 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: group of people, and I get energy from that. I 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: love it, and I forgot really how much the same 138 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: thing about eating outside and coming finally now going inside restaurants. 139 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: You forget how much that matters, to be surrounded by 140 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: people and the kind of force that it gives you 141 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and the energy it provides back. So it feels really good. 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: You still g at Butterfly before you go, they're oh, 143 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: of course, you know. I mean I think you should never, 144 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: as a professional, ever feel relaxed, and sometimes more than others. 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: In fact, the interesting thing about what's happened to me 146 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: since COVID is that because I was doing virtual lectures 147 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: where there's no audience there. You know, you're just they're 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: just in boxes. I had to do it often on 149 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: a teleprompter because it would look bad to be standing 150 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: at a podium looking down, which is okay when they're 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: right there, but not when you're on the screen. So 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: for the first time I used a teleprompter during virtual 153 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and then I got used to it. So now when 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I've gone places, I get scared because I'm using a 155 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: teleprompter in a big event for the first time. But 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: now I've done it a couple of times and it 157 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: really is cool. I mean, it's one of those presidential teleprompters, 158 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: so you can't see it from the outside. I never 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: paid attention to what it is, and you can move 160 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: your head a little bit and then you don't have 161 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: to worry about ever looking down. You're looking straight at 162 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: the audience. So and then people will sometimes say, I 163 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: can't believe you memorize that whole five, you know, forty 164 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: five minute speech, and I said, do you see that 165 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: telegram to there? No, it's been fun. It's one of 166 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: the things I've learned from the virtual world. Will you 167 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: make things look easy? Well, now we're walking in the 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: luxurious public garden here, which is one of the most 169 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: spectacular places to take a walk, I think anywhere, isn't it. Doors. Oh, 170 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. I mean, you've got the water, and 171 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: you've got the trees, you've got the grahass, and again 172 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you've got the memories. Here we cut along the path 173 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: that we're walking to. Here's Wendell Phillips, one of the 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: abolitionists in his glory, Yes, profit of liberty and champion 175 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: of the slave. So, Doris, how do you recollect from 176 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: your friends some of the presidents that they utilize taking 177 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: a walk to their advantage? Is there anything you could 178 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: speak of on how they did it, maybe to sort 179 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: of get a handle on things to de stress in 180 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: any way, Well, there's probably no question that Teddy Roosevelt 181 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: was the one who used exercise of all manners to 182 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: relax and replenish his energies. He needed to exercise from 183 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the time he was little to grow his lungs, and 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: so walking and hiking for a real part of his 185 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: life affirming activities and then became part of his ability 186 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: to relax and let his mind go in a different direction. 187 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: That's so important I think for any leader, for any 188 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: of us, to just do something where you're not thinking 189 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: about the very thing you may be worrying about, and 190 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: somehow some creative solution might come to it because you're 191 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: out and not in the same place sitting in your 192 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: chair trying to work through a problem. Yeah, they do 193 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: feel like when you're sitting in that chair, you're literally 194 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: glued to the chair these days. Right, So right, it's 195 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: time to get moving, right, and get up and get 196 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: the juices flowing. So I think I think you know 197 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: Teddy had it right. Yeah, I do too. You know, 198 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: just look look at what we're looking at right now. 199 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, between the trees turning and a bridge over there, 200 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: and the water and the benches and the squirrels. It's 201 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty wonderful. Of course, when you think good food, 202 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: many many days and nights respent in the White House 203 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: over your life, you're there for many incredible bias. Many 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: particular will would stick out food for your memory while 205 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: you were in the White House. I know. I think 206 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that when I realized that 207 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I first came there as a White House fellow, when 208 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I was twenty four years old, and I ended up 209 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: working for Linda Johnson, having an office right there in 210 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: the West Wing. And yet every time i've been back since, 211 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: and then I went every day there, you know, for 212 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: a year and a half maybe, but every time i've 213 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: been back since, it's still a sense of wonder at 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: that place. It's so simple and so beautiful, so filled 215 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: with so many memories of presidents that have been there, 216 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: such a close ev activity. Yeah, yeah, and it's twenty 217 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: four hours a day, you know, you feel like it's 218 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: never stopping. And I love that feeling. That's why I 219 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: like the city to the city seems alive for whole 220 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: hours of the night, and that was that's true of 221 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: a place like the White House. So were you working 222 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: on some particular projects? You know, I've got a series 223 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: of films that I'm working on for the History Channel 224 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: Beth last year and they formed a partnership called Pastimes Production, 225 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: So now we're doing one for Lincoln and one for 226 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt, and so they're real. Half of them are 227 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: drama and half of them are doctor drama. They got 228 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: filmed in South Africa during the COVID period actually, and 229 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: which they have a great place there. A lot of 230 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: companies go to film there because you have all different 231 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: scenery that you can get from, you know, from like 232 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: for Teddy, from the bad Lands to the tenements of 233 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: New York. So then you go over all the scripts 234 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: and you go over all the cuts, and you see 235 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the dailies at night. But it's really been fun and 236 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: that process, you and Beth and your old team, you've 237 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: managed to make it a really efficient process. You can 238 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: load it up together. Yeah somehow. I mean Beth lives 239 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: three thousand miles but you know he's but I probably 240 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: talked to her seven times a day and we've seen 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: each other a few times. But yes, we've been able 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: to do it through zooms, you know, through zooms with 243 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the people that we're working with, because you're working with 244 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: a team when you're creating a film, so that that 245 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: it's made that possible. Yeah, So any times people this 246 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: well that the Lincoln will be coming out Presidence Day 247 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: and then Teddy probably Memorial Day, and then hopefully we're 248 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: working on some others as well. But it's it's really 249 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: been I think I just learned the pleasure of working 250 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: with a team. When I was able to be involved 251 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: with the Lincoln movie with Spielberg. And again, just rather 252 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: than slowing down, I feel like I'm fasting up. That 253 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: makes for a word. Well, you don't slow down, that's 254 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: for sure. You Keith rolling. And I so appreciate you 255 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: taking a walk here at the Boston comm at the 256 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: public Garden and looking forward to now a great lunch. 257 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I made this observation. I 258 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: was waiting at your apartment for you when I saw 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: all the many dog walkers that were coming in to 260 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: take dogs for a walk. I decided, there's my calling. 261 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll come down here. Yeah, I'll take some dogs for 262 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: a walk, and I'll get to see you more frequently. 263 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? It sounds like 264 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: a good combination. Look at all the paths you can do, 265 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Look at all the people doing it right here exactly. 266 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: So it's a deal. You got a deal. We got 267 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: a deal. Next doors, you are so welcome. I love 268 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: you too, Taking a walk with you. Buzznight available on Spotify, iTunes, 269 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: and wherever podcasts are available.