1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: me Tommy Di Dario. Today's guest is in one of 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: my all time favorite music groups. Scott Hoying is part 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: of the multi platinum selling a cappella group Pentatonics. Now. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: He's a three time Grammy Award winning artist who has 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: sold more than ten million albums worldwide, and he is 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: one of the coolest people alive because he has appeared 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: in the movie Pitch Perfect too. Yes, I love, love 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: love those movies. If you are ever having a bad day, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: put the movies on. Trust me, you won't regret it. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Now it's an exciting time in Scott's life because out 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: right now is his all new seven song EP called 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Parallel And let me tell you, the music is absolutely beautiful. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: The songs are truly magnificent, and Scott is such a 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: brilliant songwriter. Trust me, you do not want to sleep 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: on the CP it is so brilliant. Man. This is 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: such a special conversation. I hope you enjoy. Let's see 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: if today we can get Scott to say something that 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: he's never said before. Scott, how are you, my man? 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Hello, how's it going? 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: I'm good, I am fantastic. It's a little steamy here 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: in New York City. Where are you today? 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: I am in Los Angeles it is also steamy. 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, I know. I just got back from lane. 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: It was pretty hot. But hey, summer better than the winter, right, 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: That is true? 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Actually, so I mean that's partial. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Are you well only because I make a lot of 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: Christmas music? 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: That's true? Well, I mean, speaking of okay, before we 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: jump in, I have a bone to pick with you. 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you. 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Have a song with Pentatonics, hally Lujah. You cover that, 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: and every time I hear that, it will come on 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: like I'm at the gym or I'm on the subway. Tears, 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: instant tears. 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, thank you. 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: It is so beautiful. I literally I can't, like, I 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: can't help myself but cry when I hear that song. 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Wow, thank you. 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: That is one of the songs we're probably most proud of. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Really why so, it's just like it's such an epic, 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: iconic song, and we arranged it so quickly. It was 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: just like such a natural. It was almost like we 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: like freestyled on a voice memo and it just like 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: was feeling really magical. So then we sent that to 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: our arranger who just kind of like fleshed it out, 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: and it is one of those songs that, like, after 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: we got a mix of it, I just like listened 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: to it over and over and over and over and over, 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: and I was just like, Wow, this is so special. 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. Matt at you for making me 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: cry when I hear it, but I love it. 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: I think you're going to say the lyrics aren't Christmas 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: themed or something, and I was like, yeah, sorry, Gil. 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: No, you have other songs for that. You have other 57 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: ones for that. You have so much to be proud of. Scott. So, 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: you are a three time Grammy Award winning artists who 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: has sold more than ten million albums worldwide as part 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: of the group Pentatonics. No big deal, you know, very 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: small feat that you've accomplished, and you are getting ready 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: to release your EP pair, which is super exciting, your 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: solo project. This was a really big deal for you, right. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a This was a huge deal for me. 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: It was something I was very very scared of. I 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: would say it was like one of my biggest dreams 67 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: as a kid. I always played piano and sang and 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: that's like all I did. That was my biggest passion, 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: but I never really put out solo music, and there's 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: other people in Pentatonics who have, but I was always 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: just too scared. I was like, didn't want that pressure 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: on myself. I felt too vulnerable to do something by myself. 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: What if people don't like it, then I'll feel like 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm only of worth in the group setting. But I 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: feel like I've grown so much as a person and 76 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: my confidence, my just emotion emotionally, mentally, all the things grown. 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: And so now i feel like ready to put this 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: out and I'm excited and proud too. 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting idea, you know, thinking that you 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: have a group behind you, surrounding you when you're performing, 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: when you're on stage and this is just you. Has 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: that been a pretty weird thing for you to step into. 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: It's been weird, It's it's you know, it's been all 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: the things. It's been scary and vulnerable obviously because you're 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: making creative decisions, you're doing performances like by yourself. And 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: it feels less like Scott from Pentatonics and more just 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: like Scott, which is which was obvious that it's just like, 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: it feels different and then, but it's also been so 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: incredibly amazing and fulfilling because being able to create art 90 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: that comes just like only from your brain and not 91 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: having like a five way marriage where you have to 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: come to an agreement, which is amazing in its own ways. 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: We come to great creative conclusions because of us having 94 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: to collaborate, but being able to just like, Okay, this 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: is a weird idea and no one would agree to this, 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: but it's my music, so I can just like do 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: this weird idea. 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: And that's been really nice. 99 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I can imagine and your song parallel ooh, 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: that is for all the hopeless romantics out there. Myself concluded, 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: it is so so beautiful. Scott, talk to me about 102 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: how this song was born. 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is a I did a songwriting session 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: with two guys, John Levine and Nolan's Side, and a 105 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: lot of the songs that I've been writing lately, obviously 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: I just got married, have been about my husband Mark. 107 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: And something. Well. 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: The song is based off of the moment that Mark 109 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: and I fell in love. We were supposed to go 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: to some like fancy event or something, but we were 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: just like dancing around my kitchen to music. Getting ready 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: for it, and then we like laid on the floor 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: of my kitchen and then we talked until four am 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: and missed everything because we were just like so enamored 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: with talking to each other. And so the chorus is. 116 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Like laying on the flyve inside me, And. 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: The parallel theme comes from the fact that I feel 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: like Mark and I we just everything we do, from 119 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: our values to our logic of how we problem solve 120 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: to how we talk, which just feels so in sync, 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: like we're like this little twin flame. 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, so the song is about that thing in 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: parallel with someone. 125 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: And this was Yeah, I know, it's genius. And this 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: was the first single, correct. 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was the first song out from the 128 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: EP and the EPs. 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: It's the title track of the EP too. 130 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: So what made you decide to release something so incredibly 131 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: personal first? Because I can I imagine that could be 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: a little that could be scary. I mean, I'm just 133 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: going to say it can be scary to be so 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: vulnerable with that. 135 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is scary to be vulnerable. But I 136 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: think that is what one of the aspects of doing 137 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: solo music that excited me the most because I am 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: I'm so in love with what we do in pan songs. 139 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: We do a lot of covers, and we do a 140 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: lot of Christmas music, and that is fulfilling in its 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: own way. But there's not really a chance to get 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: to tell your own personal personal story because there are 143 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: five band members. And so what excited me about solo 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: music was like, oh, I can talk about March, and 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: I can talk about falling in love and my insecurities 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: and the growth I've had over the years, and it 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: just is like a type of therapeutic type of journaling. 148 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: And it's a whole new experience that I'm having with music, 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: which has been exciting and. 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Beautiful, and I love the representation aspect of it. I 151 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: mean I always say that growing up for me, you know, 152 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm married to my husband now seven years? Oh god, 153 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: oh my god. 154 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Seven or eight years? Really? Yeah? Congratulations? 155 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Wait we got married in twenty sixteen. How many years 156 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: is that? I'm blinking right now? 157 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: That would be seven years? 158 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, good, I'm gonna get in trouble when he 159 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: hears us. Okay, our love is so beautiful. I forget 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: time flies, I get lies. But yeah, I never had 161 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: something like this to listen to from a male artist 162 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: talking about his love story with another guy. And I 163 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: think it's such a beautiful thing that we have a 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: whole album dedicated to love, and I think that it's 165 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: something that a lot of people will connect to, whether 166 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: you're straight or gay, because love is love. And I 167 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: just think it's a really beautiful thing to hear your perspective. 168 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Has that sunk in for you what this will mean 169 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: to people? 170 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was very beautifully said, and I appreciate that. 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: I do love that aspect of it too. And I 172 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: have already been getting messages or like at meet and 173 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: greets meeting people in gay queer youth that have been like, it. 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: Is so cool to hear your story. 175 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: And know that that is possible for me, because that 176 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: was the same way growing up, Like there wasn't a 177 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: ton of gay people in media at all, and you 178 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: didn't get to see a love story that was just 179 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: like simply a love story and didn't have like some 180 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: big tragedy built around it or something like that's totally 181 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: fine too, but it's just like, it's just been really 182 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: nice to be able to tell my story and inspire 183 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: queer people. 184 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever think normalize it. 185 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, normalizing it is so important. Did you ever 186 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: think you would be able to actually do this like 187 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: growing up? Is this something you even imagined or did 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: you think you know what I Am going to do it? 189 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: You know, growing up I wanted to do this, like 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: be an artist, but I was so afraid to come 191 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: out for so many years because it was just ingrained 192 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: as me, ingrained in me as a child, like you 193 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: cannot be gay and also be an artist that has fans. 194 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: There's the two can't happen at the same time. And 195 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: I realized that that's not true, and so now I 196 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: want to I want to show other queer youth and 197 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: gay men like and everyone in the queer community that 198 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: you can be a queer person and also be an 199 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: artist and also have success. And that's been an amazing 200 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: part of the whole journey. 201 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I think that's an important message more than ever, no 202 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: matter what industry or field you're in today, that you 203 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: can actually step into your true self and have a 204 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: career that flourishes and ballooms and blossoms very much like yourself. 205 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: And I think that alone is such a powerful man totally. 206 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: And I also think that like being authentic and my 207 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: true self. Like I used to think my authentic self 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: would have hurt my chances of like achieving my dreams. 209 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: But ironically, I do think it's what made me my 210 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: most powerful self. And so even though it was scary 211 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: and vulnerable and I didn't know how people would react, 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: I'm just like so happy to be living me my truth. 213 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I honestly just got chills. It made you your most 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: powerful self? That is so right on, and I love 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: that message and I think that's something great a lot 216 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: of people will get from this EP. Talk to me 217 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: about the EP in general. It's seven songs? What can 218 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: we expect? 219 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: So it's yeah, so it's seven songs and it is 220 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: it's about love primarily. It's about my husband Mark, and 221 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: about falling in love and celebrating. And it's also about 222 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: confidence and owning who you are and not letting anyone 223 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: kind of tell you what you can and can't be, 224 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: or what's good and what's not good. And so it's 225 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: just about yeah, that all right. 226 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: So I'm getting ready for a romantic night with my husband. 227 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: What is the must listen to song? 228 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Ooh? 229 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: I would say four would be a good one for 230 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: you to listen to if You're having a romantic night. 231 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: It's a song about that I wrote for Mark on 232 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: a four year anniversary, about how fast that four years 233 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 3: went by, especially since he said the seven years is 234 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: gone by. 235 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Some bass it'll really hit. And then the hook is like, can. 236 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: I marry you? Because right around the four year mark 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: is when I knew I was going to ask him. 238 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: Actually I knew like day maybe day three, but like 239 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: officially at that four year. 240 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Market, you knew day three together that you would ask 241 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: him to marry you. 242 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: No, it had crossed my mind super early on, just 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: because I had never met anyone like Mark before, and 244 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: I was I had no anxieties around him, and I 245 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: was so comfortable and we could talk for hours, and 246 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: he just has this light about him that's really consistently right, 247 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 3: and it's a really beautiful thing. And so I was like, whoa, 248 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: it was so specifically unique. I knew that I had 249 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: found someone that is a one of a kind type 250 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: of person. So I was like, gotta gotta marry this one. 251 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: When you know, you know, my my husband and I 252 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: moved in together in three weeks, engaged in six months, 253 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: and married six months later. 254 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: Well you know, you know that is so beautiful. I 255 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: love that. 256 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. Okay, I'm getting ready for a night out. 257 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: What's the song I should listen to? 258 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: Oh, maybe for a night out? I would say King Kong. Now, 259 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: King Kong is a the third song on the album, 260 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: and it's like it's a confidence song. 261 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: It's like like. 262 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm a bad bitch type of energy, like I'm no 263 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: one can stop me. I'm like living my truth and 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm strong and no one can convince me otherwise type 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: of thing. And the bet it's fun. I feel like 266 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: you can drink to that and go out. 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: I like that. We all want to be bad bitches, 268 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: so bring it on. 269 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: Cool. 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: That's amazing, Scott. I imagine you're so busy now with 271 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: this project and you know the work you have with 272 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: your group, and you're gearing up for a tour. How 273 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: is it balancing being in such a successful group and 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: balancing your solo project? 275 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: Now? 276 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's been really cool. I would say, 277 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: like doing all the solo stuff has made me a 278 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: better bandmate because it involves so much creativity and it's 279 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: so therapeutic the experience that, like I go into Pentatonics 280 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: meetings just like with my cup full, you know what 281 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: I mean, And so that's been really cool. And also 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: I think I'm my bandwidth is so high to work 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: so much because it's all really fulfilling kind of flow 284 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: state type of work. Like when I'm writing songs or 285 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: working on editing a trailer or something, I just like 286 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: feel lost in it, and it's almost so meditative doing 287 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: it that it's like energizing. So afterwards I feel not 288 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: exhausted and like I need to take a break, but 289 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: more like ready to keep creating. And so if it's 290 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: it's felt like this life hack where I can like 291 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: be productive and also energizing myself at the same time, 292 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: that's really cool. 293 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's applicable to any friendship or relationship 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: anyone's in it is it you bring the best version 295 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: of you to the table, then those relationships are going 296 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: to flourish. 297 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: Right exactly. 298 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: And I mean, something I love about the Pentatonics camp 299 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: is like we always let people do solo stuff and 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: that's why I have huge reason why I think our 301 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: group has lasted so long, because everyone's able to like 302 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: grow individually and like tell their own stories and then 303 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: we make the band. We're happier to be in the 304 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: band because of a lot of these groups, you know, 305 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: that breakup. It's their labels are like, you cannot do 306 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: solo stuff, and they just feel trapped and that sensation 307 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: of feeling trapped makes you want to break out. And 308 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: so it's been it's been cool. 309 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: It seems like you're all very supportive of one another, 310 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: which is cool. 311 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is I'm very grateful for. 312 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: And you've been together, now, how long with the group? 313 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, since twelve thirteen years? Twelve years, no way, 314 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: it's been a long time, no way. 315 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: And for those listening who don't know how you guys 316 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: got together, what's the quick story? 317 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: So the quick story is in twenty ten, we were 318 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: on a show called The sing Off, which was a 319 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: reality show, acapella competition show, and we won that and 320 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: then we started a YouTube channel after and just kept 321 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: putting out acapella covers and we're still doing it all 322 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: these years. 323 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Later, and so success, so successful that you guys just 324 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame earlier. Yeah, right, 325 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: what was that moment like for you? Do you understand 326 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: how iconic that. 327 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: Is that I honestly still have trouble processing it. Like 328 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: you hear about that your whole life. And when I 329 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: visited LA when I was a little kid, the first 330 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: thing we went to was the Hollywood Walk of Fame 331 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: right between like Eda James and Cole Porter and like 332 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: all these icons. It's just it feels super surreal and incredible. 333 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: And I remember on the day of I just kept 334 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: reminding myself. I was like, look around, you be present, 335 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: like this is so wild. Those things feel like such 336 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: a whirlwind. 337 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. 338 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure there's another a capella group that's 339 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: gotten that honor, right. 340 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I mean maybe. 341 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Tex I think you became No, I think you guys 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: became the first. 343 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: Wow. That is really cool. 344 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. So clearly you have 345 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: such a body of work that people just love. I'm 346 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: really excited for them to dive into this this EP. 347 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: What has been the best part working solo and what 348 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: has been the hardest part working solo? Because it's it's 349 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: newer for you. 350 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the best part working solo has been 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh man, it's hard to decide. I would say, like 352 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: being able to tell my own story and being able 353 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: to like work at a pace that I like to 354 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: work at, like I love to just like work all 355 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: night and then put the song up the next day 356 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: or something I just like. The freedom, I guess would 357 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: be my answer. And then I would say the hardest 358 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: part is the vulnerability of like the world, seeing how 359 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 3: well it does or hearing the story and then having 360 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: an opinion, like it's scary to think that people would 361 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: be like, oh, I don't I don't like Scott individually 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: and the music's not doing as well, and like blah 363 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: blah blah, and here's my opinion on his personal life. 364 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: Like that type of stuff is scary, but it's also 365 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 3: thrilling at the same time. 366 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you someone who's able to kind of compart 367 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: tomentalize all of that and put that to the side, 368 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: or are you someone who thinks about that a lot 369 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: and really kind of reads comments and reviews and what 370 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: people are saying. How do you keep your sanity? I 371 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: guess is what I'm asking. 372 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: I would say, my whole life, I have been one 373 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: of those people who would take that so deeply to heart, 374 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: which is probably why I didn't do solo music for 375 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: so long. But I feel like in the last year 376 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: or two. I guess just once I hit thirty years old, 377 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: I have just like a more relaxed outlook on it, 378 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: and I don't read as many comments. And if I 379 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: go to bed proud of what I'm making, I'm not 380 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: as concerned with its success. And that created this like 381 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: relief and freedom and the making of the art. And 382 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: so now I feel I can say that I can 383 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: confidently say that I am I don't get too shook 384 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: up by comments or success. 385 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: I think that's so important. And you just hit on 386 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: one of my personal favorite quotes, which is I like 387 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: to say success is when at the end of the 388 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: day you can look in the mirror and be proud 389 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: of whatever the work is that you're doing. 390 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: Yes, it is so true and ironically caring less about 391 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: like trying to mold something that people will like, and 392 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: just like being proud of what you're doing. 393 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: That's what leads to like authentic art that creates success. 394 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: And so it's a hard thing, but just kind of 395 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: leaning into what your truth is just kind of like 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: will lead you on the right path I've found, which 397 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: is really fun. 398 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes you a genuinely happier person. 399 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: I think exactly, it like fills your cup. It makes 400 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: you a happier person. And when I feel like nothing, 401 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: you have to be happy to make really great art. 402 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: But I feel like when I'm feeling authentic and feeling 403 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: calm in my skin, then I can like make the 404 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: make the best most viscerally good art, at least personally. 405 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly where you are in your 406 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: life right now. You're you're radiating. I see it like 407 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you're floating above. I mean, the love is coming out 408 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: of you. And I feel like you're at a cornier 409 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: life where you probably feel very at peace and truly 410 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: true happy with where you are in life. I mean, 411 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: your your wedding looked amazing. I saw your Instagram I 412 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: was scrolling through. I mean, you and Mark look so happy. 413 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: What was that night like for you? Even as you 414 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: mentioned as this kind of closet a gay kid growing 415 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: up and now suddenly finding yourself in this very public marriage. 416 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: How does that feel? 417 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: The wedding was I know you're supposed to say this 418 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: about your wedding because it's such a high pressure event. 419 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: It was the best day of our lives one percent. 420 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: It went so perfectly. His family is just such a warm, 421 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: loving community of people, and like, my family is so 422 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: absolutely wonderful and they got along so well and so honestly, 423 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: not only did I feel like it was beautiful, in 424 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: the team that did at Orange Blossom, they like literally 425 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: put on the best event ever. And I feel like 426 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: just every single part of it went so perfectly, which 427 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: is not what you would expect for a wedding because 428 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: there's so many moving parts. But I really think what 429 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: made it special was just like all of my friends 430 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: and his family and our family, there was just all 431 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: love and it was so magical and fun and there's 432 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: so many moments in the night and I just never 433 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: wanted it to end, and we were on such a high. 434 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: As you can tell. I post about it on my 435 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: Instagram still to this day, like I'll never get like, 436 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: I'm just on such a high from it. 437 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: And well, to be fair, it was pretty recent too. 438 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was like two and a half weeks ago. 439 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: But I'm just like, but there were so many special 440 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: moments at the wedding. I'm like, oh my gosh, I 441 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: have to I want to share this with the world 442 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: and share this with the world. And as you're saying, 443 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: like being able to show queer youth like this epic 444 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: wedding is also a really exciting part of it. 445 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: But it was perfect. 446 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and keep sharing it. I think it's so important 447 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: and it's so beautiful. I got a question quite often 448 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: when when I got married, and so do my husband, 449 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you've gotten this too. Do you 450 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: feel different now that you're married? Does anything feel different 451 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: to you? Does your relationship feel different? 452 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: I would say, like our dynamic and day to day 453 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: is the same, but there is a little thing that 454 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: feels different. There's like a special quality to knowing that 455 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: you've officially committed to someone. There's something so beautiful about that, 456 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: and it's just so exciting because growing up, I like 457 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: didn't know if I was going to want to even 458 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: come out until I was seventeen, and then you hope 459 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: to find love, but you don't know if that's ever 460 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: going to happen, and then like until two thousand, was 461 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: it thirteen? 462 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: Gay marriage wasn't even legal or was it too? Wait? 463 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve thirteen? 464 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: Did I get that right? 465 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: Okay a fact checker, but yes, around that, I'm not 466 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: such a bad gay, but around that, and you don't 467 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: even know if gay marriage is going to be legal, 468 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: so there's all these obstacles you have to overcome. So 469 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: it's special for that reason. But it's also just like 470 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: so beautiful to just commit to someone. That's so cool 471 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 3: to say husband, and it feels so amazing to like 472 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: lean into life. And it just so there's been that 473 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: kind of like oh my god, my husband. For husbands, 474 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: you say it all the time, and it's it has 475 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: felt different. 476 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think also, even though it's 477 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: an object for some reason, wearing a wedding ring for 478 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: me is what made it feel even more special and 479 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: more and different. 480 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like such a symbol of your whole 481 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: story and now you've grown in this person that you 482 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: love so much. 483 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a moment of pride. I put it 484 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: on with pride. I'm like, yeah, I'm ring and listen. 485 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: I know it's not for everyone, and everyone has their 486 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: journey and not everyone wants marriage, but for me, it 487 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: was something that really it wasn't in the cards and 488 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I never thought it would happen. So when it did, 489 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: I felt different in the sense that I just feel 490 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: proud to have made it. Quote unquote legal, you. 491 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's that's that's perfectly said. 492 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: What is a lyric? I'm putting you on the spot here, 493 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: So let's see if you can dig out what is 494 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: a lyric from your new EP that is so personal 495 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: and special to you. 496 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: Ooh, I think a really the second verse of four, it's. 497 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: Like, well, I'm not a fortune teller, but I had 498 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: a dream last night. It was Christmas with Rockefeller. It 499 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: was a girl, white eye. She asked if she could 500 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: hold our hands till she was strong enough to stand. 501 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that it. 502 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: Was just a dream, but one day the two of 503 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: us could turn into three. 504 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: And I just think that it's a very personal lyric 505 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: because it's just like fantasizing about having a child with 506 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: someone and that's like a really personal thing to share. 507 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: And also, we bought our engagement rings at Rockefeller during 508 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: Christmas time, and we have a special memory like ice 509 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: skating together at Rockefeller Center, and we talked about having 510 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: children all the time, and so that verse of that 511 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: song always makes me really emotional. 512 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful. It's so special when you see something 513 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: coming to life that you've always dreamed of and always 514 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: wanted and you clearly have a way with words. You 515 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: actually said a quote and I was reading this and 516 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: was really struck by this, and you said, I feel 517 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: like I'm really growing into my most authentic self and 518 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: starting to fulfill my potential in ways I never thought possible. 519 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: I think you recently said that in an interview. Talk 520 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: to me about that, because it really stopped me in 521 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: my tracks when I read that. 522 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. I like, I just. 523 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: I feel like, growing up, there was so many dreams 524 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: I had, but I would just like never finished projects 525 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: or never I don't even know how to explain it. 526 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: But in the past couple of years, I've started really 527 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: learning new skills and staying committed to things, and like 528 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: all these projects coming to fruition, and I've been able 529 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: to reach this flow state, and like it's given me 530 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: so much self esteem. I don't I just like so 531 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 3: much turned around for me. And then now I just 532 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: feel like I can act better than I ever thought 533 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: I could, and I can like dance better than I 534 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 3: ever thought I could, And I can songwrite and feel 535 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: like a real songwriter. And I've like just like so 536 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: many different things about myself that I had insecurities about 537 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: for multiple reasons. A huge one being just like having 538 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: such a beautiful, loving support of husband, I've been able 539 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: to like really become strong at and feel good about. 540 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: And I think learning the skills and being my most 541 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: authentic self is just like made me more confident and 542 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: stronger in so many areas of my life that I 543 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: didn't know I could be. Does that make sense, Yeah, 544 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: it does, it does. 545 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool when you realize your worth, 546 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: and it seems like you have over the years, were 547 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: you at a point where you were feeling like you 548 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: had a low self esteem and you had to kind 549 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: of share jar it out and figure out a way 550 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: to feel your best for sure? 551 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: I mean I would say, like three four years ago, 552 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: even I was like I wasn't like the lowest of 553 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: low self esteems, but I just wasn't very motivated. I 554 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: didn't really have an outlet. I felt like I didn't 555 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: know exactly what I wanted to do, and I wasn't 556 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: motivated to like make art. But I also was like 557 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: kind of restless and didn't want to just like sit 558 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: on the couch all day. I don't know, I was 559 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: just like I felt so lost, and it's just like 560 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: so exciting to have made this breakthrough and now feel 561 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 3: so focused and confident in the direction I'm going, And 562 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: I feel this freedom to like make any type of art. 563 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: And I don't think that I feel like I've broken 564 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: out of this box of like what I am and 565 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: what I'm supposed to be, and I don't attach my 566 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: identity to anything. I just like feel like I can 567 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: do anything, which I think is cool. 568 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: I love that. 569 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I love that. I think it's very I think it's 570 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: hard when you're in entertainment, especially to not attach your 571 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: identity to the work that you do, because the truth is, 572 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: it's such a big part of what we do as artists, 573 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: as hosts, as singers, as actors. But the happiest people 574 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: I find are the people who truly can look at 575 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: that as their job and then also have a life 576 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: outside of that. Maybe it's not always one where you 577 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of free time, and there's phases where 578 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: maybe you're not going to as many dinners, or you 579 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: can't make a family event, and there's a lot of sacrifice. 580 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: But to find a way to get back to having 581 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: that connection with real people I think is so important. 582 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly. I feel like. 583 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: All airs of my life are becoming that too, Like 584 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: I have such a connection with my husband and my family, 585 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: and then I love my work, and then my husband's 586 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: involved in my work a lot of the time. And 587 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: like the Pentatonics, my best friends I'm making music with, 588 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: it's all like it feels like all the pieces are 589 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: there and I just feel so calm. 590 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: That must be a good feeling. 591 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: It is a very good feeling. And I'm almost glad 592 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: I went through insecurity and harder times too, so I 593 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 3: can really appreciate these moments and know how special there. 594 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when it comes up again in the future, 595 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: because inevitably things do creep in, you'll know how to 596 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: handle it in a. 597 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: Better way, right exactly, and I'll know that it's temporary. 598 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Scott. Something that really interested me about you. 599 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: I read that you are somebody who has very much 600 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: so experienced stage fright. 601 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 602 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still a thing for you. 603 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: But is that still something you face in battle? 604 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: You know, I don't anymore. I don't really get stage 605 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: fright for like a Pentatonics show that much. Sometimes a 606 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: little bit. It's television anytime we do live television, something 607 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: about the red dot on the camera. It's just so 608 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: stressful to me, and it runs in my family and 609 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: my sister gets it too. But I just get so 610 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: nervous and then my mind starts spinning that I can't 611 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: really focus on what I'm supposed to do. But I 612 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: will say, in this new like renaissance confident era I'm having, 613 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: I'm able to like step outside of that nervousness and 614 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: just accept it and be like, there is an emotion. 615 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: I am nervous, and now I will do what I'm 616 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: supposed to do. I can separate it now instead of 617 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: just spiral and let it consume me. And so that 618 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: has been better. But I'm really gonna be put to 619 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: the test because i have some TV stuff coming up 620 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: that's solo and I that's gonna really that'll be the 621 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: test if I can handle it. 622 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: I believe in you, Scott, I think you. 623 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 624 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: I believe in you. Do you remember the most scared 625 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: you've ever been? 626 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably? 627 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: We did Fallon and Pentatonics like years ago. I was 628 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: so nervous. You can hear it in my voice. 629 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean you could hear it in your voice, 630 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: or we could hear it in your voice. 631 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: I think I think you could hear it in my voice. 632 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: But also recently, the national anthem at the college championship 633 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: game was really nerve wracking because we'd never done such 634 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: a watched event and the national anthem is high pressure. 635 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet, and that's just really not an easy 636 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: song to sing, I imagine. 637 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: No, this was a really hard arrangement too, And it 638 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: was also just live television. Man, there's a lot of factors. 639 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: But that was one of those moments where I was like, okay, 640 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: and I'm nervous and I'm accepting it, and now I 641 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: will sing. 642 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked out well. 643 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I am cheering you on for all the live upcoming 644 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: performances you've got this. 645 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. 646 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, of course, of course. And Scott, the 647 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: name of the show is I've never said this before, 648 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: and it's a moment of truth where you have to 649 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: tell me something that you've never said before. 650 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what a cool question. Something I've never 651 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: said before. 652 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: A commnute. Oh my goodness. 653 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: It could be as deep as you want, it could 654 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: be silly. 655 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: I think that's. 656 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: This is something I've thought, but I don't think i've 657 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: ever said this out loud, and it may sound cliche, 658 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: but I don't think that I've just physically said it 659 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: out loud. 660 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: But I am enough. 661 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: It's kind of cheesy, but I feel like those type 662 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: of things we think and we read about, we see them, 663 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: but we never say them. And I am. I just 664 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: felt like saying that's the first thing I thought of. 665 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that, right, Yeah, that's and 666 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, after chatting with you for the last half hours, 667 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: so I believe it. I believe you honestly feel like 668 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: you're at a point in your life where you think 669 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: you're enough. 670 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: Totally. 671 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a good it's a good feeling. And 672 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: I feel like you can think it, but but I 673 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 3: not truly believe it. But it's like so important two 674 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: work towards really believing it. 675 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah it is, And that's not the key word, 676 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: is work towards, right, I mean, it's something that takes 677 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of time. I've been there too, and I 678 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: feel like I agree with you. I'm at a point 679 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: where I feel it. And for everybody listening who might 680 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: not be feeling like they're enough right now, what would 681 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: you say to them? 682 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: I would say, to give yourself time and not be 683 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: hard on yourself. I feel like I really didn't feel 684 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: my most confident self while I was like thirty one, 685 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 3: and I still will go through ups and downs, and 686 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: so it's knowing that you never know where you're going 687 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: to be at even in a year. Two years ago 688 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: is a completely different version of me in every area 689 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: of my life. 690 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: And so. 691 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: It's not I would say, don't get so caught up 692 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: in the current situation you're in. If you're feeling down 693 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: about certain things, it's not forever that feeling in that situation. 694 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Man, you have a way with words, which is why 695 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: I think we all need to listen to your new 696 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: EP dropping. By the time this episode comes out, it 697 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: will be out because it drops this Friday. 698 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it comes on this Friday. 699 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so you'all will be listening to this on Tuesday hopefully. 700 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: And how can we support What do you need from us? 701 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: Tell us everything? 702 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 703 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's called Parallel and you can listen to it 704 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: honestly anywhere you stream music. And I just hope you 705 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: love it and that inspires people and brings some joy. 706 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: It's brought me so much joy. It comes from a 707 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: very real, authentic place, and yeah, I hope you love it. 708 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: Can we get some sort of TikTok challenged one of 709 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: the songs we need one? 710 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that would be the dream. 711 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: You'll see me if you follow me on TikTok, I 712 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: will be starting all the trends, or attempting to start 713 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 3: all the trends. 714 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Good. 715 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: I will support you anyway I can. Scott, this has 716 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: been awesome. I hope when you're in the city, if 717 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: you ever a minute, we'll double date and actually meet 718 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: in real life. I've so enjoyed chatting with you. 719 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been an amazing interview. You're awesome. Thank 720 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: you for this and I would love that. 721 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: Thank you and everybody go listen to Parallel out Now 722 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your music. Thank you, Scott, Thank you. 723 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me Tommy Didario. 724 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: This podcast is produced and edited by Mike Coscarelli, and 725 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: executive producers are Andrew Piglici and Katrina Norbel at iHeart Radio. 726 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 727 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Duran podcast network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review 728 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 729 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: tell your friends until next time, I'm Tommy Diderio.