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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio Way. I don't

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt that if you wanted to make it

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Speaker 5: Is exactly the way to do it.

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Speaker 4: And I hate it because we got a great, a

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Speaker 6: Uh, nowhere to go up after you leave today. I mean,

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Speaker 6: what's what's Ryan's topics? If we can't even talk about

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Speaker 5: I know, So there you go.

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Speaker 4: So the thing is, we ran a brand and people

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Speaker 5: A little bit of an update on the thing.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about for the last couple of days, on

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Speaker 4: that college football basketball settlement.

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Speaker 5: I know it's dry, but I want to talk.

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Speaker 4: I want to go over it while I'm here because

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Speaker 5: And I learned more about it yesterday.

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Speaker 4: So the SE, so the ACC and Big twelve have

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Speaker 4: They were ones that the ones that crafted the settlement,

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Speaker 4: big picture, this is really good for college sports. Big picture.

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Speaker 4: This settlement doesn't have anything to do with football. Start

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Speaker 4: So the NCAA makes all of its money, all of

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Speaker 4: So even though the settlement will be for basketball players

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Speaker 5: It's gonna cost your school a lot of money, but

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Speaker 4: The number is twenty two million dollars, So I want

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Speaker 5: So actually, the person I was talking to was like,

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Speaker 4: So that these ACC and Big twelve schools are left

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Speaker 5: Tough choice, for it is a tough choice.

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Speaker 4: Then each school is gonna get this twenty two million dollars.

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Speaker 5: What's that gonna be like? What's it gonna be like?

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Speaker 4: Remember when I said yesterday schools are gonna have to

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Speaker 4: If Kentucky says we're gonna give a million dollars to

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Speaker 5: Then? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Now, here's what can happen and what will happen. Private

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Speaker 4: But now there's a chance that an investor Mario Investments

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Speaker 5: There will be schools that will do that. It's almost

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Speaker 5: and schools will have to choose. That whole conversation we

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Speaker 4: Schools are gonna have to choose. They're gonna have to choose,

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Speaker 5: And I I think I don't know what's gonna happen,

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Speaker 4: Drew, But I I'm a legal dork, so I probably

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Speaker 6: We should all care about it because the way we've

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm baffled that a painted rock has

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Speaker 1: We got it, We're gonna be over up against it.

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Speaker 1: I hope that his vacation's a lot better than this show.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. We'll be right back KSR.

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Speaker 2: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 5: Well we're on for right now.

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Speaker 5: Tran Nicholson. He's a kid from Saint X.

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, if we go off again, Shannon

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Speaker 3: You go to you go to Europe, and you don't

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna act like this was the smoothest the

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Speaker 5: Would you do that?

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Speaker 3: I have a fear of snakes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is what was found in the yard next

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's running around my neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: Well you say, yes, we say go for a hike.

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Speaker 5: There's nowhere to hike in Lexi.

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Speaker 1: I went for a walk in a park a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago and there's huge snake as like, why

448
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Speaker 1: as the road was right in front of me, I

449
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Speaker 1: didn't touch that thing.

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Speaker 2: I just let let it go on its own time.

451
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Speaker 2: I completely stopped.

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Speaker 5: I was prassed at Valhalla that these dudes would just

453
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Speaker 5: reach up and grab it. And it was like it

454
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Speaker 5: was not people that worked at Valhalla, it was like

455
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Speaker 5: just regular.

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Speaker 4: Some dude from Shelbyville is one of them, regular dudes

457
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Speaker 4: from Shelbyville doing it? And I was, I'll be honest

458
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Speaker 4: with you, quite impressed with that. Who's up next?

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Speaker 7: J J?

460
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Speaker 5: Craig Craig by the way, is that Craig Greenberg is

461
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Speaker 5: on the Golf Channel? Can we get that on the

462
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Speaker 5: on the TV? I'd like to see that go ahead?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what's up? Man?

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Speaker 7: I want to get with your safe trip and happy

465
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Speaker 7: but you have fun over there heron.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, Drew.

467
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Speaker 7: I was, I was.

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Speaker 6: I was the one that tweeted you yesterday about the

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Speaker 6: L s U game.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you want.

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Speaker 1: I'm sad we got our win.

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Speaker 7: We needed to win more than.

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Speaker 6: Do so I'm glad you got one runs and I'm

474
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Speaker 6: glad we got the win. So sorry, I wanted both

475
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Speaker 6: wins with congratulations.

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Speaker 4: That's all, good man, Matt, I was did you hear

477
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Speaker 4: about the kid suing the coach from Florida?

478
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Speaker 5: I did.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't sue the coach for not giving him

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Speaker 4: the amount of his n I l D. I think

481
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Speaker 4: that will continue to happen, at least until this new

482
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Speaker 4: system that we talked about UH gets into place.

483
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was wondering that it canna be the

484
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: nor them now and intend the SEC is gonna be interesting.

485
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 5: The big team can be powerful, but that might be

486
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Speaker 5: the norm, you think, Yeah, I mean, I appreciate the call.

487
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean the reality.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So here's a piece of law that people don't

489
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Speaker 4: always realize. You can have a contract without it being

490
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Speaker 4: written down. They're verbal contracts. So like if I if

491
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Speaker 4: I were to say to you, sir, like I'll take

492
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Speaker 4: the guy right here. If I were to say to you,

493
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Speaker 4: I will give you five hundred dollars to mow my

494
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Speaker 4: grass right and you say, okay, I will mow your grass.

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Speaker 5: We have a contract at that point right now. It's

496
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Speaker 5: gonna be hard for you to prove it.

497
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Speaker 4: That's why you always want to write something down, because

498
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Speaker 4: there's a difference between having a contract and proving you

499
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Speaker 4: have a contract. So if this guy was promised X

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Speaker 4: amount of money and he didn't get it, technically he

501
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Speaker 4: had a contract and they owe it to it. But

502
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Speaker 4: he's gonna have to be able to prove that they

503
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Speaker 4: had that agreement. And if I've offered you five hundred

504
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: dollars to mow my grass and we didn't write it down,

505
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Speaker 4: and the only two people were you and I, and

506
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Speaker 4: you said I did and I say I didn't, you're

507
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Speaker 4: gonna not be able to prove it. But if you

508
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Speaker 4: had gone out and mowed my lawn, you'd actually have

509
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Speaker 4: some proof because the judge would go, why in the

510
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Speaker 4: world would he mow his lawn?

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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, so this dude came to Florida and so

513
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Speaker 4: he's gonna have to prove somehow that that amount of

514
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Speaker 4: money was offered to him. I don't know what proof

515
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Speaker 4: he has, but the idea that a contract could have

516
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Speaker 4: existed without it being written down, that can't happen.

517
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Speaker 5: Ryan, It's just you got to prove it, and that's hard.

518
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Speaker 3: I think this is the first incident where this is

519
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Speaker 3: going to happen A lot. I think some kids will

520
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: probably promised money, maybe didn't get all that they would promise,

521
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Speaker 3: start suing the universities or coaches.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just interested to see if is there any

523
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Speaker 6: way maybe not with how things change so much. If

524
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 6: one of these NIL lawsuits, could they get into investigating

525
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 6: the football program at Florida? And that leads to other

526
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 6: things like how do they even look into the NIL

527
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 6: stuff here without uncovering more they could possibly be doing so.

528
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Speaker 4: According to Mayor Greenberg in Louisville, there is a fixed

529
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: camera video inside the police there's a fixed camera video

530
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Speaker 4: from a pole outside of the on the street, and

531
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Speaker 4: there is a dash cam on the on the police car.

532
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Speaker 4: But they do not believe that there's a camera that

533
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Speaker 4: captures the initial interaction.

534
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Speaker 5: Between Scheffler and the police department.

535
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Speaker 4: So the sixty four thousand dollars question of the interact,

536
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 4: the first interaction that spawned this, it doesn't look like

537
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Speaker 4: there will be a camera about that.

538
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Speaker 3: First I heard there's dashboard camera. I didn't know that

539
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Speaker 3: was even out there.

540
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Speaker 4: But a dashboard camera though in the police car after

541
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Speaker 4: it wouldn't be a dashboard camera in Scottie Sheffer's car.

542
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: It would be in the police car, so that probably

543
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: would not be very helpful.

544
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Speaker 5: To the case.

545
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 7: At it.

546
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Speaker 5: You have to get really lucky that it was on

547
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Speaker 5: the right spot. Yeah, So so it looks like it'll

548
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 5: just be kind of what we just talked about. It'll

549
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 5: be one words, one person's word over another.

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Speaker 4: Af I'm nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven,

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Speaker 4: One person writes, Matt, do you think Mark Pope by

552
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Speaker 4: the time you get back will have commitments for next

553
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: year's class? So the guys in the twenty twenty five class. True,

554
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: you follow that a little more closely than I do.

555
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: Do you think that'll happen by the time you're back?

556
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Speaker 4: I'll say no, but not too far away from one.

557
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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: You know he's putting the pressure on Malachymarino up a

559
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: great crossing and Jasper Johnson here in town. That might

560
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: be a good way to get that class started by

561
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Speaker 3: both those guys.

562
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Speaker 5: Two guys from Kentucky name to the under seventeen team

563
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: USA Team?

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is Has that ever happened before? Do you

565
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: think there's ever been two two Kentucky players named to.

566
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Speaker 5: That not to the USA team?

567
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Speaker 3: No?

568
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Speaker 6: No, I think I think Scotty Hopson might have played

569
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Speaker 6: for it. Scotty, I don't even know who else would

570
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 6: be on that. It's just the only someone recently I

571
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 6: could think that even played for it.

572
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's uh, that's a great honor. Do you

573
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: think he gets those two guys? I had a high

574
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: school assistant coach I know. Tell me he thinks he

575
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: ends up with certainly Jasper Johnson and maybe Malachi as well.

576
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Speaker 3: If I was betting, I'd say yes, the odds are

577
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: probably in our favor to get both of them right now.

578
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope so too. I love the Perry Noah

579
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 6: connection into just keeping the homegrown talent coming. That would

580
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: be great to start Pope's career in a second season.

581
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Speaker 4: Dude, I agree with this texter who goes, why are

582
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Speaker 4: they not spending more time talking about Drew Franklin putting

583
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: a snake in his mouth?

584
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Speaker 5: I don't.

585
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 4: You said that though, Like you said that, like you

586
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: did a keg stand like that was normally. I understand

587
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: that that's not the same thing. Putting a snake in

588
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: your mouth is a much more bizarre thing.

589
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Speaker 6: I think there's photo epens of it. Uh, you know,

590
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 6: might have might have the next day been like, no,

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00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: I didn't and then oh, yeah, there's the video. Yeah,

592
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: I guess we did do that.

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Speaker 5: Do you know anybody else? What do you mean just

594
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: goofing off? That's not a thing, guys.

595
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Speaker 6: Just so. The snake lived in the basement, and occasionally

596
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Speaker 6: I won't say his name, but Corey would be like, hey,

597
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 6: you can't find a snake, and we'd all just have

598
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: to keep our feet up on the couch because we

599
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: weren't sure it'd be It was just one of the boys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all of those things, Mario, just make sure I'm

601
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: not going crazy. Like, all of those things make sense

602
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: to me. They have a snake. There are people that

603
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: have snakes. They're boys hanging out. They were drinking. I

604
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: was around Drew in that era. I can buy that

605
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: we had a good time.

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Speaker 6: I might have gone in for a little good night

607
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: smooch with the snake, telling a good night, tucking it in,

608
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 6: and then and then what then, I don't know.

609
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

610
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: One thing led to another. I don't know it happened.

611
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Speaker 5: It's a big deal with how much of the head

612
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: did you put inside your head? You put the whole

613
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: head in your mouth.

614
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: It lived with us.

615
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: It was fine.

616
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 6: It would you know, we could leave it on our

617
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: arm for an hour to time. It would just rest.

618
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 5: It was one of us.

619
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: It was everything was fine.

620
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: Everything.

621
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't go out and do it with it.

622
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Speaker 5: One in the wild. Oh, so it was like a snake,

623
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: you knew. So it wasn't.

624
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 6: Six months. We had six months of building this relationship.

625
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 6: And I mean, I'm sure I fed it at one point.

626
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: If you walk snake hang on, is that how you

628
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 6: would feed it?

629
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: Just I don't know.

630
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 6: It wasn't my snake. It was my roommate snake. It

631
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 6: just we all felt very comfortable with it. You know,

632
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 6: I've known you a long time. That's one of the

633
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 6: strangest things I ever heard. One time thing I wouldn't

634
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: even gonna say it on the radio. Now I feel

635
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 6: like it's gonna be I have to live with this. No, No,

636
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 6: you are the guy that put a snake in Have

637
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 6: you seen road Trip with Tom Green?

638
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: I have.

639
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of kind of like that.

640
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I just got a little pet snake.

641
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: I feed it occasionally.

642
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, he put the mouse in his mouth, right, It

643
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: wasn't the snake. I think Tom Green had the mouse.

644
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 6: I didn't have a mouse.

645
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: Wow, that that's absolutely crazy.

646
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 6: Oh well, let me tell you what else we did

647
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: in college.

648
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: Well, maybe you can do that while I'm gone.

649
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,

650
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: couple open lines, give us a shout. Kentucky leads three

651
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: to nothing going into the bottom of the fifth. They're

652
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: playing really well. Knock on wood, Let's see if they

653
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: can hold on. We'll take a break.

654
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: Be right back. This is k S.

655
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Speaker 4: Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. Here Kentucky hit a home

656
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: run during the break. Now four nothing in the bottom

657
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: of the fifth against Arkansas and a chance to knock

658
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: Arkansas out of the turnament. Here's why this would also

659
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: be a big deal for Kentucky right now. If the

660
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: NCAA Tournament were to start today, they probably would be

661
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: the number two seed in the tournament. I think if

662
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: they lost today, the team most likely to pass them

663
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: is Arkansas. So maybe by beating Arkansas you ensure they

664
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: don't pass you any overall seeds and drew you might

665
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: be able to lock in that number two overall seed

666
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: in the tournament.

667
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: You agree with that.

668
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 6: I don't know where they're ranked in all the seeding,

669
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 6: but I know in the RPI Kentucky's four, Arkansas's three,

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Speaker 6: So we didn't think you could do a whole lot

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Speaker 6: of resume building. But you beat Arkansas in the second

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Speaker 6: day of the SEC tournament, that will help.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: D one Baseball, which has kind of been historically the

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Speaker 4: most accurate, went into this tournament as Kentucky as the

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Speaker 4: number one overall seed with Tennessee to Arkansas three. But

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Speaker 4: Tennessee and Arkansas both lost in the first round as well.

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Speaker 4: And then if you beat Arkansas, who knows, maybe you

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Speaker 4: even have a shot at the number one overall seed.

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Speaker 4: If Tennessee were to lose tonight or something, tenn season

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Speaker 4: one loss from going home today.

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Speaker 3: It looks like if they win this one, they play

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Speaker 3: the loser of LSU in South Carolina tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they could play LSU again.

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Speaker 4: Could play LSU again, but they've already thrown They threw

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Speaker 4: their really good guy yesterday, so like you wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: to necessarily play they're really good pitch. First, you need

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Speaker 4: to win this one. One thing about Kentucky games we've

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Speaker 4: seen over the years, over this year, they're never over

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Speaker 4: for nothing for either team. They are, They're never over.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep you, keep you up to date on it.

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Speaker 4: If I'm nine to two eight zero, twenty two eighty seven,

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Speaker 4: one person rides Matt. I see your your frustration on

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Speaker 4: Twitter and on the show yesterday about Antonio Reeves not

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Speaker 4: being drafted. I'll make you a prediction he's not playing

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Speaker 4: in the league three years from now. I love him,

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Speaker 4: but he can't play enough defense. I don't think he

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Speaker 4: stays in the NBA. I'll take that bet. I think

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Speaker 4: he I mean, I'm all for projections, but let's be real.

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Speaker 4: Who have we had at Kentucky in the last twenty

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Speaker 4: five years? Who could ball? I mean really ball eighteen

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Speaker 4: points plus a game. Who's not made the NBA?

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Speaker 5: Nobody?

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Speaker 4: Do we know anybody? The only one might be Oscar?

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Speaker 4: First of all, Oscar's on a roster. But Oscar couldn't shoot.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like I.

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Speaker 6: Wish Deeron Lamb would have last longer. But even he

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Speaker 6: had a couple of years in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just see this.

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Speaker 4: I don't see the scenario where you put that guy

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Speaker 4: on the court and he's not gonna make shots. He's

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Speaker 4: I bring these numbers up a lot, but like think

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Speaker 4: about this stat. He scored double digits for US in

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Speaker 4: every game but one. You know any players in UK

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Speaker 4: history have done that?

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Speaker 6: Three?

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Speaker 4: Wow, there's only three players in the UK history you've

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Speaker 4: had an entire season where they never scored less than

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Speaker 4: ten points in a game. Dan Issel, Jamal Mashburn And

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Speaker 4: I want to say Jody Meeks had a year like

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Speaker 4: that and that's it.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I feel like reason we will those guys and maybe

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Speaker 3: people still don't believe a nym. He will go to

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Speaker 3: the G League average twenty twenty five a game and

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Speaker 3: then a team will like give him a shot and

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Speaker 3: he'll make it.

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Speaker 5: Do you think we will Like in ten years when

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Speaker 5: you're ranking cal Perry players, will people even put him

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Speaker 5: in the top twenty.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be forgotten because his two postseason teams.

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Speaker 6: Really but if you were rand the ways we associate

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Speaker 6: the memories was what they did in the end.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do a ranking for a second. Would

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Speaker 4: you rank him ahead of Robin Reid?

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Speaker 5: Oh for what they did cour yes? Yes, yes, for

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Speaker 5: college yes.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: For the NBA no, But if you're ranking what they

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Speaker 4: did in college, he's definitely ahead of them. He's not

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Speaker 4: ahead of Oscar. Okay, but let's just keep going back years.

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Speaker 4: Is he ahead of anybody on the uh?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Is he ahead of everybody on the team? Did we

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Speaker 5: score again? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Scored one, score two six nothing Kentucky? All right, okay,

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Speaker 4: so is he a head? He's ahead of everybody on

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Speaker 4: the COVID team?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right?

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Speaker 4: Now go to the year before that, Maxy Hagen's quickly?

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Speaker 4: Is he ahead of those guys?

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Speaker 5: Quickly?

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Speaker 6: Was the SEC player of the year. That's a close one.

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Speaker 6: I could hear both arguments there. Okay, let's just for

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Speaker 6: sake of argument, let's put quickly. I would even lean

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Speaker 6: Reeves though, I think might certainly head of Hagens. Yes,

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Speaker 6: probably certainly ahead of Maxie. Go to the year before

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Speaker 6: Tyler hero PJ. Washington, Nick Richards ahead of that group

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Speaker 6: for what they did.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 4: My point is, I think if you're talking about who

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Speaker 4: did more at Kentucky, you're gonna have a hard time

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Speaker 4: putting eight or ten guys.

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Speaker 5: Ahead of me. Yeah, And yet I just don't think

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Speaker 5: he'll be remembered like that. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 6: I think as time goes on, we just those other

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Speaker 6: guys were more what you call a fan favorite that

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Speaker 6: came in with more excitement than or higher expectations, maybe

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Speaker 6: a little more personality. I just just think over time

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Speaker 6: and it's not fair to him because he's the leading

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Speaker 6: score of the cal Era. I think he'll just slowly

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Speaker 6: drop a little farther and farther down that list.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm ranking the best players at Kentucky

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Speaker 4: this season, Antonio Reeves is number one, Reed Shepherd is

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Speaker 4: number two, and Rob is probably number three.

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Speaker 5: But I think most fans that are not like their

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Speaker 5: natural instinct would not be to put it like that,

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Speaker 5: absolutely flip it.

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Speaker 3: But that's what it should be. Huh right, yeah, just

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Speaker 3: so you can do it. Their production, their numbers on

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Speaker 3: the court. Antonio Reeves had one of the best season

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Speaker 3: in the cal Era.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Hey, thank all of you very much

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Speaker 5: for coming.

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Speaker 4: You got to see an Absolutely you got to see

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Speaker 4: KSR and it's the most raw and uh never know

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Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. We will tomorrow be in Somersett, Don Franklin, Nissan.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully the tech will work better. We edited a lot

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Speaker 4: of the bad stuff out of the podcast, so you

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Speaker 4: only got to hear it. If it's live, we'll see

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Speaker 4: you later. This has been in Kentucky Sports Radio.