WEBVTT - Kate Cassidy EXCLUSIVE: Sharing Her Last Conversation with Liam Payne and The Real Story Behind Their Relationship 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.960 Hey everyone, It's Jay Sheddy and I'm thrilled to announce 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.840 my podcast tour. For the first time ever, you can 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:12.120 experience on purpose in person. Join me in a city 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:17.200 near you for meaningful, insightful conversations with surprise guests. It 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.439 could be a celebrity, top wellness expert, or a CEO 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.079 or business leader. We'll dive into experiences designed to experience growth, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.159 spark learning, and build real connections. I can't wait to 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.400 meet you. There are a limited number of VIP experiences 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.040 for a private Q and a intimate meditation and a 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.360 meet and greet with photos. Tickets are on sale now. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.520 Head to Jaysheddy dot me forward Slash Tour and get 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.360 yours today. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.280 It's just so hard to process that you thought we 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.600 had all this time and it was just taken away. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.360 Breaking news. Former One Direction thinger Liam Payne has. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.520 Been found dead at a hotel in Buenos Aires in Argentina. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.039 I wanted to ask you why you felt that you 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:07.920 wanted to come here to speak about this and why 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.080 right now I want to talk about how you found 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.959 out on the day that we sadly lost Liam. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.360 The day left Argentina was the last day I was 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.760 able to touch Liam, to hug Liam in that moment. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.960 I still don't believe it to be true. I was 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.360 supposed to be trying on my wedding dress. I wasn't 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:27.679 supposed to be wearing black dress. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.759 What was the last conversation you'd had with Liam? 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.160 One thing that really helps me day to day is 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.120 reading letters that Liam has left me. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.520 And I believe you brought one of those letters that 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:41.440 you talk could share. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:52.320 Yeah, the number one health and wellness podcast, Jay Sheidy, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.320 Jay Sheddy. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.560 Shed Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I am 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.960 so grateful that you've tuned in today to listen, learn 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.160 and grow. We have built this platform as a place 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.799 of happiness, of health, and of healing. And today I'm 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.960 really truly grateful because I have the honor of sitting 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.520 down with Kate Cassidy, the girlfriend to internationally beloved artist 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.079 and former One Direction member Liam Paine. And Liam's voice, talent, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.359 and charisma left an indelible mark on millions, and his 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.359 sudden passing on October sixteenth left the world mourning a 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.639 true star. Nearly three years ago, while working as a 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.239 waitress in Charleston, which we'll hear about more Fate introduced 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.120 Kate to Liam. Kate is here to share her story 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.560 of love, loss and the strength to move forward. Please 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.600 give a warm welcome to Kate Cassidy, Kate, Welcome to 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.760 On Purpose. I want to start by just checking with 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.800 you and asking you how you're doing today. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.480 Thanks for having me. I think that's the hardest question 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.840 to answer. There's really no right answer to that. I 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.799 think the best thing I can say to that is 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.799 I'm doing okay. I have my harder days and I 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.800 have my better days. I think each day it doesn't 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.800 get so much better, but each day I'm just trying 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.519 my best, and I think even just trying my best 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.239 makes me feel that little bit better. This has just 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.560 been such a rollercoaster of emotions, and I'm really just 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.960 really trying my best. I don't, like I said, that's 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.600 the hardest question to really put into words to answer. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.040 No, and I wanted I wanted to start off by 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.280 and I was sharing this with you when you first arrived, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.880 but I wanted to share my prayers. My condolence is 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.480 to yourself, to Liam, his family, friends, the fans all 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.360 across the world, like just my prayers for him and 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.240 for everyone who loves him because it's such a loss 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.480 that you feel. I remember the day it happened, and 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.600 me and my whole team there was it was. It 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.960 was something that impacted everyone. And I wanted to ask 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.280 you why you felt that you wanted to come here 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.880 to speak about this, and why right now and why 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.640 this was appropriate timing for you to want to share 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:09.440 some of this story. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.360 It's been, just like I said, a roller coaster. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.680 And you give this such a sense of comfort, and 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.960 I do want to be able to use my voice 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.560 and be able to share my story as this has 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.120 impacted me so much and changed my life forever, and 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.320 you give this sense of comfort and sincerity that I 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.520 genuinely feel like I would be just you know, And 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.080 I am so comfortable speaking and sharing my story with you. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.600 And if there's any opportunity and chance for me to 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.040 help other people that are dealing with grief, mental health, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.800 anything like that, I really want to be able to 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.640 be able to help. And even though right now I'm 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.400 not an expert, I don't think anybody can really be 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.560 an expert at that. But I'm going through this day 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.080 by day and I'm teaching and learning, you know, teaching 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.520 myself how to better myself, and I think if there's 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.080 if I could give anybody advice and help other people, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.440 then I would love to be able to be able 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:01.800 to do that. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:02.280 Well. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.680 I want to acknowledge how brave that is and how 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.120 commendable that is. And again, I'm grateful that you're here 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.840 and giving us the opportunity to hopefully help so many 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.080 people as well, and hopefully do it from a place 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.080 of peace for yourself. So the last few months for 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:22.720 you have been drastically different and changed your life, as 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.600 you mentioned just now, But before we dive into that, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.960 I wanted to focus on who Kate was before Liam, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.000 before this, so that we can understand you a bit 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.920 more and your journey. So talk to me about Kate. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.040 So grew up in New Jersey. I actually am half British. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.040 My mom's from England, so I do have a ton 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:42.880 of family in England. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:43.599 We're in England. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.000 She grew up in a town called Edmonton. I'm not 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:47.719 too familiar. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.000 That is so close to where I grew up. Really, yeah, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.159 if we're talking about the same Edmonton, Yeah, I do. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.120 Have some family in England on my mom's side. Grew 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.680 up in New Jersey after I graduated high school, I 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.320 kind of immediately moved out of the house pretty much. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.159 I went to a college in South Carolina called Coastal 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:09.080 Carolina University, graduated there. After four years, moved to Charleston, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.240 South Carolina. I think after college, I wasn't too sure 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.240 what I wanted to do with work or with even 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:16.800 my life. I think it was still kind of that, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.040 you know, I went to college. I had such a 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.800 great experience. I met so many great people. I'm so 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.600 glad I have a degree, and I didn't know though, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.560 what I wanted to do. Some people obviously go to 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.720 college for you know, law school, medical school. They kind 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.280 of know what path they're taking. I kind of went 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.320 to college just saying, Okay, I know at some point 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.560 it's going to click, like I know what I want 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.720 to do. But I still didn't really understand what I 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.960 wanted to do in life. So moved to Charleston with 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.520 a bunch of my friends. My friends were all kind 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:42.920 of in the same boat too. We were all just 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.880 kind of like, all right, let's just take one day 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.640 at a time. We all graduated college. We're all kind 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.600 of almost in a way like lost. We don't know 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:49.640 what to do college is over? 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:49.960 Now? 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.800 What Now it's like the real life, the real big 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.640 girl life. And moved to Charleston all together, and took 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.840 some time there just to focus on myself, and I 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.400 ended up a couple months later getting this waitressing job 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.600 at this restaurant, lounge bar place, and that's where, on 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.640 my second week of working, I met Liam and that 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.840 day is you know, has changed my life forever, and 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.840 it was you know, I'm such a believer and everything 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.080 happens for a reason, and it's I've talked about this 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.160 previously in the past, but it's very it's just so 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.320 weird how sometimes the dots all connect. Because I tried 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.360 so hard to get off work already my second week, 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:27.880 I told my friend because my friend was the one 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.840 who owned the restaurant, and I told her, I honestly 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.600 want to I wanted to balance my social life with 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.360 work life. So I just said to her, I want 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.440 to work every other weekend. Because it was only a 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.640 weekend shift. It was Thursday to Sunday. So I told her, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.960 I want to work every other weekend. And then week 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.800 two came about and she put my name on the 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.280 schedule and I remember calling her and I was like, wait, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.640 I thought I wasn't working back to back weekends, and 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:48.960 she was like, we really need you, like. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.840 It's just our second week of opening. It was brand new. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:52.960 I tried so hard to get off and I was like, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.160 you know what, Okay, fine, So I went in and 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.400 I met Liam that same night. And it's just crazy 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.920 because if I did get off that I never would 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:00.440 have met him. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.320 So yeah, I met him that night. I was his 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.480 server and it all started from there. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.240 Thank you for sharing that. I wanted people to have 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.240 context of you know, where you've come from as well, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.240 and I can't believe me and your mum have Edmonton 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.320 in common. That Yeah, that's still blowing my mind. I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.960 read somewhere that you said that you had a crush 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.120 on Liam ever since you were ten years old, and 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.720 that you even felt that you would definitely meet at 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.400 some point, Like there was that yeah you had. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.240 I think a woman always has a strong intuition, and 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.720 I think for me, I was a one direction fan 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.839 and specifically Liam. I remember even a couple years ago, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.079 like a fan dug up this old Facebook post and 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.240 it was of me from like twenty ten, and it 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.280 was I think it said like Ferzane comment for Liam, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.280 and I commented on my own post Liam with an 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.640 explanation point. And I really just feel like even the 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.160 way that me and Liam met, I just think that 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.920 the fact that it was my second week of work, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.760 Liam is in town in this kind of random city, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.360 just randomly, and that you know, I tried to get 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.800 off work and I happened to be his server, and 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.160 then we just clicked immediately. And just the fact that 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.800 even I have all this background and I'm familiar with England, 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.280 with London, and just we just hit it off the 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.000 bat immediately. And I really do believe that people are 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.319 meant to meet in this life, and I do believe. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.480 That we were. We were like soule connections. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.679 We had that connection because instantly, as soon as we 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.040 started talking, we had this connection more. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:26.880 It was just so easy. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.280 I mean, I'm not going to lie. Of course I 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.440 was nervous. I was a fan, so I of course 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.600 was so nervous to meet him. I remember walking up 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.640 to his table, my heart was pounding and I was 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.280 kind of just like what am I doing? Like this 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.199 is terrifying, Like Hi, I'm Kate, nice to meet you. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.079 It was terrifying, but he was just such a humble, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.120 kind person. You would never even know that he was 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.640 this huge worldwide pop star. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:50.480 You would never know. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.599 And he just had this sort of sparked him and 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.400 he was just so kind, just so humble, so different 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.559 than anybody I've ever met, and just immediately it was 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.439 just like just a spark that we were just a 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.000 conversation just flowed so easily. And it's just but I 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.120 didn't think, of course that, oh, conversation's going great, I'm 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.400 gonna have a future with this man. I didn't think 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.079 anything about I just thought, this guy's really great. This 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.640 is so cool to meet him. I had his posters 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.679 on my want when I was ten years old. I know, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.400 drew photos of him when I was ten years old. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:23.680 So I didn't know it was going to go anywhere, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.360 and the obviously it did. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.000 Okay, thank you so much for sharing that, And I 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.640 want to hear a bit about how did that evolve 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.599 into this beautiful relationship. I've seen videos of both of 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.320 you dancing together and attending events together and whatever else 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.520 it may be like to talk to me about those 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.920 early months of dating and how were you managing to 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.960 spend time together with his busy schedule, where you were living. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.120 How did that all work? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.199 He did end up extending his flight a couple of 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.960 days in Charleston. I think he was supposed to leave 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.640 the next the following day, and he ended up extending 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.280 it for three nights, so he was there for a 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.439 couple of days. We spent day and night together. Immediately 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.000 immediately just clicked so well. We would go to the beach, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.640 go to dinners, lunches, we went bowling, we would do 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.640 all these Charleston tours. We just had this click and 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.880 it was just so normal, you know, and it was nice. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.600 I felt like I was his tour guid. He's never 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.480 been to Charleston before. I was able to show him around. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.040 He's been all over the world to all these different places, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.760 and it was like I was able to show him 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:20.760 the one place he hasn't been to. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.439 So it kind of gave me that upperhand. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.520 I was like, oh, I feel kind of says cool 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.080 that I'm able to show him this new place. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:26.559 And he loved it. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.640 He loved Charleston. I ended up going flying out to 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.000 England to London about like a week later, and once 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.839 again just inseparable, I mean, hit it off where it's 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.920 like we were obviously I was staying with him, but 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.240 we just the minute we'd wake up, we would just 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.640 plan all these things throughout the day to do all 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.040 these things, and it just felt right, is how I 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.400 would describe it. It was just something that it was 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.560 so fun and I could tell like I brought out 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.240 this light in him where he was just so like 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.800 he was just happy, and I think that I saw 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.960 that in him, and we both brought out this light 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:01.400 in each other. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:02.040 I was happy. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.679 He showed me this type of fairy tale life and 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.520 I showed him a sense of normality, which I think 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.880 is you know, balance is a key in a lot 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.800 of relationships. And I think that it was just so 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.040 cool to experience so many things I never would have 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.520 thought I would experience, or places I never thought i'd 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:18.880 be able to go to in the world that he 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.839 took me after being with him for two months, not 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.199 even and it's just it was crazy, it was insane, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.040 and I was so grateful and blessed to be able to, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.800 you know, experience that with somebody that I loved and love. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.079 How did it feel like going from I have a 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.720 crush on this person to oh, my gosh, you're my boyfriend, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.199 Like what was that realization? 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.839 Like at first, it was so surreal. I would wake 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.480 up every day and just I would even say it 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.160 to him. I'm not really a shy person, so I 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.959 would say to him, I can't even believe me and 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.080 you are together right now. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.000 Like I was a fan. I was a fan. I 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.320 would always say these things to him. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.640 It's not like I would run into my closet and 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.520 like scream out of excitement. I was honest with I 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.000 just was always, you know, saying to him, I can't 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.599 even believe it. But I think that it got to 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.160 a point where it just became so normal and it 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.520 just felt so normal, like you just put all that 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.199 past you and you know it's still of course, I 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.080 would always say to him, you are the coolest person 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.240 I've ever met in my life, and it's just such 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.960 an honor to be a part of your life. It's 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.000 he was the best person I've ever met. And I 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.000 think that one day it just kind of okay, this 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.360 is reality. It doesn't you know, fame doesn't change somebody 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.160 or you know, in his it didn't change him. So 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.560 it just felt so normal and just felt so right. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.520 Yeah, that's so beautiful to hear. And what was it 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.640 like with the media attention on your relationship in those 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.680 early days? How did you experience that? It was. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.319 Something I've never experienced before in my life, of course, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.480 and it was definitely difficult, i'd say in the beginning. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:54.000 I think also with boy bands and you know, guy 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.000 like male pop stars, I think they have this fan 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.640 base that, of course, so many girls are so protective 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.440 over and I understand that. I mean, this was one 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.240 direction was a part of so many you know, people's childhoods, 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.720 and I me being one of those, so I totally 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.719 understand that. But I think when we first kind of 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.600 were spotted out in public, and I think it might 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.000 have been maybe our first Instagram post together or something, 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.720 I was just getting flooded with hate just like you're like, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.160 you know, just just being the new girlfriend, kind of 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:28.840 like this isn't going to last. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.040 Who even are you? Where do you come from? 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:36.640 Like just nitpicking everything about me, just my appearance down 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.800 to everything. Just you know, people would dig up all 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.640 these old photos of me from like twenty twenty, you know, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.240 and just be like, she looks so different than she 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.320 looks now, Comparing photos and it was just it was. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.640 Just hard to see that. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.880 And Liam, you know, Liam would say to me like, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.000 I'm I'm so like he would feel at Folly'd be like, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.480 I feel so bad that you're that you have to 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.680 put up with this and deal with this like this, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.520 you know, like if this isn't for you, And I 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.280 was like, I don't care what people think at all 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.040 because I love you. So if people think that our 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.720 relationship is fake or staged, or if they think I 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.920 wear too much makeup or like look ten times older, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.280 like or just have these little nippicking opinions about me, like, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.960 at the end of the day, nobody knows our relationship 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.080 like me and Liam. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.000 So I never let it get to me. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.760 He never let it get to him, and he showed 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.640 me that it's not don't let people's opinions get to you. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:28.520 It doesn't matter. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.960 It's always going to behind the computer screen and it 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.000 shouldn't let it affect your day or your life. And 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.440 I completely agree with that. And I try, you know, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.840 I try to have the thickest strong of skin, but 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.880 I will say sometimes like one negative comment will weigh out. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:43.800 Ten positive comments. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.920 No matter how strong you are, you see that one 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.440 really negative comment, but then you see ten really kind, 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.080 beautiful comments on top of that. The only one you're 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.600 going to think about all of that day is the 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.280 one negative one you're not going to think about like 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:55.920 the kind ones. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.360 No, it's so true, and it's even harder when it's 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 almost like a life that you came into because it 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.360 wasn't the life that you had. Yeah, it's extremely thick 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.560 skinned for you to be able to say, I love you, 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.760 so I don't care about it. But like you said, 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.960 sometimes things got through. How did you navigate that together? 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.760 How did you navigate that personally? Because like you said, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.920 there's always that one comment that kind of squeezes through 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.960 that thick skin that we have that does affect us, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.360 and we all go through it. I know I go 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.360 through it. How did you navigate that? How did you 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:27.280 navigate that together? 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.240 That was definitely all Liam for me. He almost like 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.760 guided me into this way. He just built me up. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.200 He made me feel like this amazing human and this 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.040 he grew up in the limelight of fame since the 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.760 young age of fourteen fifteen years old, so he's had 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.000 over at the time, you know, almost fifteen years of 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.680 experience of this and He just completely always said, you're 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.280 going to get hate no matter what, You're going to 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:51.000 get negativity. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.960 It doesn't matter what you do, he just always said. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.880 And I would see it because people wouldn't always be 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.120 so nice to him, and I would see him just 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.880 brushing it off. And he really you know, sometimes I 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.280 could see that one comment that would get to him, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:04.480 but barely. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.520 He would just brush it off and just who cares. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.760 And he really taught me that it's not important this 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.119 one comment, And he really did train me in a 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.680 way to realize that life is more than that, and 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.040 not to let one negative comment affect your. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.040 Entire day or your life. 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.200 That's amazing to focus on the good things, focus on 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.440 the positivity from it, not the negativity. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.840 That's that's incredible to hear. I mean about his character 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.840 and just how comforting and loving he was and supportive 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.520 he was was as you just mentioned there that he 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:37.000 sometimes received it too. You know, obviously from my outside perspective, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.280 it's like you look at someone like him who's so beloved, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:44.720 so appreciated, admired, What was he experiencing, what was he 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:45.720 what was he going through? 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.600 I think a lot of the negativity and it always 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.200 comes with fame, Like I said before, but he would 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.439 just almost have got to a point where a lot 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.520 of the things that he would do, he was getting 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.639 this negativity brought towards him and it was just so 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.800 uncalled for and it's just so mean and verticuoling and cyberbullying. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.560 And he could be out somewhere wearing something and people 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.240 would say he's trying too hard, or he could post 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.440 something and people would say, oh, like, you know, he 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.240 thinks he's all that, just such mean things that And 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.080 like I said before, he was the most humble person 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.560