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Speaker 3: We got a lot we're gonna talk about today. We're
Speaker 3: gonna get to Brian's breakdown of the Pittsburgh offense versus
Speaker 3: the Dallas defense, maybe even get to some player evaluations,
Speaker 3: looking at particularly the Cowboys defense and some players that
Speaker 3: we have maybe we haven't talked about as much here recently.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I'll start with some bigger picture questions heading into
Speaker 3: week five of the season. This team, now obviously two
Speaker 3: and two, I've had a lot of mixed results. The
Speaker 3: teams that they've beaten don't appear to be very good teams.
Speaker 3: The teams that they've lost to, we don't mean, I
Speaker 3: guess the words really, I mean, we really don't know
Speaker 3: if those are great teams they have. I think New
Speaker 3: Orleans has come back to the pack and they're two
Speaker 3: and two as well. Baltimore is looking like the real deal.
Speaker 3: But if you were the head coach and you were
Speaker 3: walking into the meeting with the team today, what would
Speaker 3: be your message to this team entering week five of
Speaker 3: the season, after what you've seen the first four weeks
Speaker 3: of the season, and knowing where your team is with
Speaker 3: all the challenges that are around them.
Speaker 9: One week at a time. I think that would probably
Speaker 9: be the most coherent message. You have a gauntlet coming up,
Speaker 9: and fortunately you have a bye week right in the
Speaker 9: middle of that gauntlet. But I think you take one
Speaker 9: week at a time, it can really kind of help
Speaker 9: this process over these next few weeks of Pittsburgh going
Speaker 9: up to Pittsburgh playing a physical Pittsburgh team that is
Speaker 9: three and one and is looking to bounce back off
Speaker 9: of loss a really athletic quarterback. You had to take
Speaker 9: that challenge in its own right and focus on that
Speaker 9: until that final buzzer hits on Sunday, and then you
Speaker 9: move on to Detroit and then you move on to
Speaker 9: the bye week. Especially with all the injuries that the
Speaker 9: Cowboys are dealing with on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 9: this is a really important time just to focus on
Speaker 9: challenge ahead and not try to look at the whole thing.
Speaker 7: I'll go in there and be like, all right, guys,
Speaker 7: sink or swim? What are we doing here? We gotta swim,
Speaker 7: we gotta stay.
Speaker 3: Above with either.
Speaker 7: Why doesn't matter what, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: We ain't got no floating. We're struggling.
Speaker 7: We're in the this is the what what is that
Speaker 7: hardcore training? Navy seals that going there and they just
Speaker 7: gotta survive. The cold water is just like tough training,
Speaker 7: and you're just out for yourself. You gotta keep yourself afloat.
Speaker 7: You can't be drowning other people. As soon as you're
Speaker 7: doing that, you're taking someone down with you. So the
Speaker 7: focus is focus on what you gotta do. Focus on
Speaker 7: your job, focus on your assignment, do the best that
Speaker 7: you can do. Don't be lollygagging during the week. We
Speaker 7: gotta prepare, do your job, study, learn, watch film, learn
Speaker 7: your opponent, and do what you gotta do because there's
Speaker 7: nothing else to be done. I mean, there's nothing else
Speaker 7: you can be done because of all the injuries, I mean,
Speaker 7: the way that they're struggling right now, things that you
Speaker 7: can't control. So something that I learn about Garrett that
Speaker 7: stuck with me because they would say it every week,
Speaker 7: control what you can control, and one day at a time,
Speaker 7: that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I would walk in there and
Speaker 4: my message to the team would be I need every
Speaker 4: one of you sitting in these chairs, coaches, players, I
Speaker 4: need every one of you. It doesn't look great right
Speaker 4: now with the injuries we're dealing with. But nobody feels
Speaker 4: sorry for us. You know, we got to find a
Speaker 4: way our players. Dack gotta have it from you, CD
Speaker 4: gotta have it from you. Guiden gotta have it from you.
Speaker 4: Golston gotta have it from you. I'd start calling guys out, individually,
Speaker 4: challenge them to play at a level that they haven't
Speaker 4: played out so far this year. You know, maybe go
Speaker 4: back and talk about, hey, when we had success when
Speaker 4: we were down, uh, you know, when we were when
Speaker 4: we didn't have everybody available and we were short handed
Speaker 4: and we were playing on short weeks and we're playing
Speaker 4: three games in eleven days. Remember how we got through that.
Speaker 4: That's what's going to take today because we are shorthanded.
Speaker 4: But again, nobody feels sorry for us. But I would
Speaker 4: individually challenge those players. I challenge the leaders of the team,
Speaker 4: you know, and and by challenging them, they would then
Speaker 4: challenge the players that are maybe player fifty fifty one,
Speaker 4: fifty two, fifty three on that roster. And it's gonna
Speaker 4: maybe the practice squad guys too. It's going to take
Speaker 4: them having a really good week like Ambar's talking about.
Speaker 4: You know, we're dealing with another quarterback where that does
Speaker 4: read option stuff. We got to be disciplined. You know.
Speaker 4: Nobody's giving us a chance to go to Pittsburgh and
Speaker 4: win this game. It's really important to Mike McCarthy. He's
Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh, you know. I mean, you see Mike when
Speaker 4: he gets kind of emotional about games Green Bay, you know,
Speaker 4: going to Pittsburgh now with this team, you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's a challenge for him. But Nick's right, it's the
Speaker 4: gauntlet that you're about to run.
Speaker 3: This thing.
Speaker 4: These next three weeks could determine your season. You get
Speaker 4: out of this thing two and five, you know, you
Speaker 4: go and you go and lose to Pittsburgh, you lose
Speaker 4: to Detroit, you take a buy and go lose to
Speaker 4: San Francisco. We might have a new head coach here,
Speaker 4: and so now you know you have to and Mike's
Speaker 4: not going to say that, but as a player, you've
Speaker 4: got to realize that that everybody in this room is
Speaker 4: really fighting, you know, fighting for an existence. Like Amber's
Speaker 4: talking about, keeping your head above water and making sure
Speaker 4: that we're doing everything possible to win these games. Don't
Speaker 4: leave anything to chance, you know, Preparation, you know, taking
Speaker 4: care of yourself, extra study, whatever you have to do
Speaker 4: to go out and play better these next three weeks.
Speaker 4: We have to do that, and if we don't, then
Speaker 4: the story could be really, really different for a lot
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think and I was trying to
Speaker 3: look it up here and I looked up I kind
Speaker 3: of got some of the numbers. But I want to say,
Speaker 3: back in twenty ten, when the Packers won the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl here and.
Speaker 10: Really banged up, they had an injury report that was
Speaker 10: a crial long, and it was it was one of
Speaker 10: those things where you kept waiting for them to fall
Speaker 10: apart because of all the guys they were losing, and
Speaker 10: I'm talking some of their top line starter type guys
Speaker 10: that they were losing, and they didn't.
Speaker 3: They can't manage to keep it all together. And I
Speaker 3: think those are the kinds of things that you would
Speaker 3: want a head coach with this level of experience be
Speaker 3: able to impart to this team. Is I've seen this work.
Speaker 3: I've seen what teams can do when they pull together
Speaker 3: despite injuries, despite injury to some of your best players,
Speaker 3: what you can still accomplish if everybody's willing to get
Speaker 3: on the same page.
Speaker 7: Are they prior to everybody kind of coming down.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and that's wy I was trying to
Speaker 3: look up. I don't remember what the record was as
Speaker 3: that was happening. I don't even remember exactly what part
Speaker 3: of the year they lost all these guys.
Speaker 4: I just remember ten and six they were for the season, right,
Speaker 4: they were ten and six, because the next year they
Speaker 4: went fifteen and one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and all six of those losses were by four
Speaker 9: points or less.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was, and it was one. But it was
Speaker 3: one of those things where it's like I remember at
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, everybody saying, like, how is this team here? Like,
Speaker 3: how are they still alive with all the guys that
Speaker 3: they've lost? And you're right, like, I'm not saying at all,
Speaker 3: Dallas is that caliber of team. I don't know that
Speaker 3: we've seen anything that tells us that. All I'm saying is,
Speaker 3: I think if you're the head coach, the message you
Speaker 3: have to give the team is you can do remarkable
Speaker 3: things sometimes if you're willing to everybody step up and
Speaker 3: do their job and pull together in a different kind
Speaker 3: away when you lose players, it's possible. And that's what
Speaker 3: you're trying to sell I think to this team is
Speaker 3: the hope that you can do something special if everybody
Speaker 3: does as you said, does their job.
Speaker 7: That's the tough part. And like Nick mentioned, I believe
Speaker 7: yesterday they were not playing well prior to all these
Speaker 7: guys getting injured, and so that's the problem right there.
Speaker 7: You were already struggling with healthy players. So now how
Speaker 7: do you add this new factor of starters being out
Speaker 7: and then trying to put together this team and being
Speaker 7: able to combat the struggles that you were already dealing with.
Speaker 7: That's a tough thing to do right now.
Speaker 3: All right, another question I have for you guys about this. Now,
Speaker 3: let's let's flip a little bit and talk about specifically
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are three and one heading into
Speaker 3: this game. Everything they've played so far as two and two,
Speaker 3: so you can't really get a gauge for how good
Speaker 3: these teams are that they've beaten or that they lost to.
Speaker 3: But as in the same way, Dallas is two and two.
Speaker 3: So here you go, right, what is your general impression
Speaker 3: just big picture? We're going to dive into some of
Speaker 3: the more specific things, but big picture, what do you
Speaker 3: look at as far as stills are concerned and your
Speaker 3: impressions of them as a team physical.
Speaker 9: I know we talked about it yesterday. Physical football team,
Speaker 9: and that's on both sides of the ball, specifically in
Speaker 9: their pass rush. I mean guys like TJ. Watt, Cameron Hayward,
Speaker 9: even Nick Herbig. I mean, these are guys that get
Speaker 9: after the quarterback, they generate pressure. They're active in the
Speaker 9: run game specifically as well. I mean, if you're looking
Speaker 9: for this Dallas Cowboys run game to get going, I
Speaker 9: don't think this is the game where it happens. There's
Speaker 9: going to have to be quite a bit of intention
Speaker 9: put this week if you're Dak Prescott on understanding how
Speaker 9: to escape the pocket and how to be able to
Speaker 9: find your guys downfield. And I know we talked about
Speaker 9: it leading into the Giants game. I know it's something
Speaker 9: that he's been trying to emphasize in his game over
Speaker 9: the past couple of weeks. I don't think we've necessarily
Speaker 9: seen it to the level that we saw in twenty three,
Speaker 9: but I think there is still a layer that he
Speaker 9: can add to escaping the pocket and making some plays
Speaker 9: happen off script. I think he's going to have to
Speaker 9: be able to do that in this game. I think
Speaker 9: that's where he makes his where he makes his money
Speaker 9: in this game up in Pittsburgh. If we remember back
Speaker 9: the last time they went to Pittsburgh, he had to
Speaker 9: make his money escape in the pick a couple of times.
Speaker 9: But then on the offensive side of the ball. Staying
Speaker 9: on that point of being physical, they get after it
Speaker 9: in the run game as well. I mean, they don't
Speaker 9: have any super productive runners like Naje Harris has been
Speaker 9: a little underwhelming since he's coming to the league, averaging
Speaker 9: right around three and a half yards per carry at
Speaker 9: this point in the season. But he's still a physical runner.
Speaker 9: He's a tough guy to bring down justin fields, is athletic.
Speaker 9: He's going to do a lot of different things out
Speaker 9: of the backfield, read option design runs. He's going to
Speaker 9: make it difficult for your defense to be able to
Speaker 9: stay on track. And then the Swiss Army Knife Corderyl Patterson,
Speaker 9: who's like fifty six years old and has still found
Speaker 9: a place in the league and he's still making it
Speaker 9: work out of the backfield as well.
Speaker 7: Think, I mean, the one thing that just stinds out,
Speaker 7: what do you want me to say? After everything, he
Speaker 7: just thought some No, the main thing that stood out
Speaker 7: or stands out for me is the physical part that
Speaker 7: he just talked about. And this is where we go
Speaker 7: back to your team needing to be aggressive and keeping up,
Speaker 7: not falling behind. Not as well as how fast you're
Speaker 7: playing the game, focus on doing like tackling the right
Speaker 7: way and not being a step behind that We've seen
Speaker 7: this defense or I've seen this defense do where there's
Speaker 7: just a few steps behind and they don't get there
Speaker 7: when they need to. So just it's tough again when
Speaker 7: you're dealing with so many injured guys on your own team.
Speaker 7: Now you're having to combat a team that's not going
Speaker 7: to give up easily. They're just gonna go out there
Speaker 7: and fight. And what's the word. I can think of
Speaker 7: the word, but basically tire you down. Where are you
Speaker 7: out there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that it's all good thoughts. The thing
Speaker 4: that Mike tom Wins one of the best coaches in
Speaker 4: the National Football League, you know, and one of the
Speaker 4: reasons why you won that game in twenty sixteen. He
Speaker 4: kept going for it for two and Dallas kept stopping him.
Speaker 4: Like four times he went for two in that game,
Speaker 4: and all the times Ben Roethlisberger got stopped. It's crazy
Speaker 4: how that ending of that game. But just remember Zeke
Speaker 4: running through, you know, breaking the Were you.
Speaker 3: Down sideline with us? I mean, Nick, we're talking about that.
Speaker 3: We were down the sideline when ZK had that big run.
Speaker 3: Were you down there with it?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 4: I was not. I was not there. I was not there,
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I've done traveling. I think at that
Speaker 4: point that was like, ain't doing enough? Yeah, figure it out.
Speaker 4: I kind of wish Ul had gone to that game
Speaker 4: because that was that was a fun one because Dak
Speaker 4: had that.
Speaker 7: Season here Buffalo game.
Speaker 4: I said, you guys flying through hurricanes and tornadoes and stuff,
Speaker 4: and everybody, Oh, look at this.
Speaker 3: It's like right, all right, yeah, yeah, roller coaster.
Speaker 4: Everybody's happy, and Derek's looking for his doctor Pepper, and
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not flying on this plane anymore.
Speaker 9: We got more cookies coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trey's flying through the air. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: that was incredibly yearpe By the way, Dak is a
Speaker 4: rookie winning at lambeau Field and at Hinesfield at the time.
Speaker 4: That's that was that. Not many rookies cause still Hinfield.
Speaker 4: I don't care what I do too. I still call
Speaker 4: it and Jack Murphy Stadium, and Joe Robbie and and.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 4: Yeah, named after people. But the thing with with with
Speaker 4: it's one of the best coaching stabs in the league
Speaker 4: and they do a great job. They have turnover with
Speaker 4: some of their staff, but they just Mike Tomlin every year.
Speaker 4: It seems you talk about a guy that's dealt with
Speaker 4: over the years of dealing with injury and mainly at quarterback,
Speaker 4: and they don't they don't seem to get the quarterback
Speaker 4: thing right. They always just kind of, you know, every
Speaker 4: year they're playing with a different guy, and you know
Speaker 4: it's it's well since Ben Roethlisberger's left, of course, but
Speaker 4: it's just amazing seventeen consecutive winning seasons for this guy.
Speaker 4: And they're they're physical, they're tough, They their offenses. Their
Speaker 4: offense has got some things about it that you can
Speaker 4: take advantage of. And there's some things that they can
Speaker 4: try and take advantage of you. I know, we'll get
Speaker 4: into that. But when you think of the Steelers, you
Speaker 4: always think of organizational You think of stability, you think
Speaker 4: of toughness, and you think of going and having to
Speaker 4: win at their places. How difficult, it is, but your
Speaker 4: quarterback has done that before and hopefully he can relive
Speaker 4: some of that magic that he did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like no matter whether that team is
Speaker 3: good or not so good, they're physical, yeah, and will
Speaker 3: beat you up.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They play a brand of football that's always tough to
Speaker 3: match up.
Speaker 4: There was a stat at one time where we used
Speaker 4: to keep up with this, and this was when I
Speaker 4: was in scouting in the two thousands early two thousands,
Speaker 4: where you played the Steelers and then the next week
Speaker 4: you automatically lost the game. I mean, they had a
Speaker 4: run where you played them and the next week that
Speaker 4: whoever played them that week and then played a game
Speaker 4: the next week, you automatically lost the game because of
Speaker 4: how much they beat your team up, how much it
Speaker 4: took out of you to win that game, or that
Speaker 4: you would lose a game and then week you just
Speaker 4: couldn't you couldn't recover because they had beaten you up
Speaker 4: that bad too, you know. So, but it's still I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe they're not to that level where they were back
Speaker 4: you know, maybe with some Bill cowardays and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: but still with Mike Tomlin, just a ton of respect
Speaker 4: for how they operate.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. All right, we're gonna take our first break. We'll
Speaker 3: come back. We're going to dive into this Pittsburgh offense,
Speaker 3: learn a little bit more about what they do well
Speaker 3: and not so well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One quick note number one rushing offense in the league.
Speaker 3: As far as yards are concerned, that should be a
Speaker 3: little concerning. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 3: dive in. Let's talk about this Pittsburgh offense, and real quick,
Speaker 3: I need to correct myself. I said they're the first
Speaker 3: deep rushing that's why word for it, and my co
Speaker 3: host quickly quickly told me, no, that's not accurate, And
Speaker 3: so I went back to look at the site, and
Speaker 3: I think I made a mistake. I looked at the attempts.
Speaker 3: They are number one in rushing attempts. They will do that,
Speaker 3: not number one in rushing yards, which probably is even
Speaker 3: more alarming for me because they're so dedicated to the run.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about that. Let's talk about where they
Speaker 3: are as a rushing team and kind of how Dallas
Speaker 3: has to what the key is to their running attack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've had some injuries at their offensive line,
Speaker 4: and they're they've got a little bit of the element
Speaker 4: of the penn and pull stuff that we've seen before.
Speaker 4: They like to move the offensive lineman around, they like
Speaker 4: to try and trap, they like to use their tight ends.
Speaker 4: Their tight ends are horrible blockers. They really really are.
Speaker 4: I mean you say their tight ends they're tight ends
Speaker 4: are horrible blockers. Darnell Washington is probably the better of
Speaker 4: the blockers. So if you see number eighty, he's a
Speaker 4: massive guy. A lot of people thought maybe he had Georgia,
Speaker 4: he should have maybe been an offensive tackle, yeah, coming out,
Speaker 4: and so I think his knees were the problem. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he was a big, big problem. But they don't
Speaker 4: block very well at the point of attack. We've seen
Speaker 4: some teams that played the Cowboys. This team plays a
Speaker 4: lot of thirteen personnel, one back, three tight ends. That's there.
Speaker 4: They're like forty seven percent of doing that. When you
Speaker 4: watch them in thirteen personnel. They don't run the ball
Speaker 4: worth a dam. They really struggle with the yards they
Speaker 4: gained when they run the football in their heavy personnel.
Speaker 4: That might play into Dallas's favor. They have some problems
Speaker 4: with their offensive line with the health. Isaac Suamala should
Speaker 4: be coming back this week, but if he doesn't come back,
Speaker 4: then Mason McCormick is a rookie, will play in that spot.
Speaker 4: He played in the spot in the Colts game that
Speaker 4: I watched last week at left guard. That means if
Speaker 4: Suamala doesn't make it back, McCormick plays. So now you
Speaker 4: get a rookie left guard and a rookie center. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's kind of where they've had some problems. The guy
Speaker 4: you attack here is their center, Zach Fraser. I love
Speaker 4: Zach Fraser coming out of West Virginia in the draft.
Speaker 4: A really good athlete, second level player. He just doesn't
Speaker 4: play with a lot of power. He gives up a
Speaker 4: lot of pressures inside, and he doesn't always sustain his blocks.
Speaker 4: They've had some problems with sustains sustaining blocks when McCormick's
Speaker 4: had to play at guard. He again, he's a rookie.
Speaker 4: As I just mentioned, he doesn't sustain particularly well. So
Speaker 4: they tried to angle block, fold, block down, block, through
Speaker 4: all these things because they don't want to play you
Speaker 4: one on one. Now, their best running Najie Harris is
Speaker 4: a physical back, there's no question about that. But the
Speaker 4: guy that's actually had the most success running the ball
Speaker 4: for them is Cordell Patterson. So when they hand the
Speaker 4: ball to when they hand the ball to him, they
Speaker 4: put him in the backfield, They swing it to him.
Speaker 4: They you know, they throw it to him. They toss
Speaker 4: it to him. But they've had some problems with their
Speaker 4: offensive line getting sustained. The Chargers did a heck of
Speaker 4: a job with their linebackers attacking this Steeler offensive line,
Speaker 4: and and and the and the Steelers were slow to
Speaker 4: react with how physical that and how quick the the
Speaker 4: Chargers played in that game at linebacker. And I think
Speaker 4: Dallas has got linebackers that are better than what the
Speaker 4: Chargers were playing with, So keep an eye on that.
Speaker 4: As far as Dallas playing down hill in this football game,
Speaker 4: trying to beat these block to the point of attack
Speaker 4: and make some plays. I mentioned the tight ends.
Speaker 3: Frim Youth.
Speaker 4: You know, he's a good catcher of the football, kind
Speaker 4: of an underneath at the sticks kind of guy. That's
Speaker 4: their offense though. I mean, he'll throw the ball outside
Speaker 4: the numbers, justin fields will throw it outside the numbers.
Speaker 4: They got they got a couple of quality receivers, but
Speaker 4: you know, when they everything is trying to like take
Speaker 4: care of him, it's routes to the sticks.
Speaker 3: Turn.
Speaker 4: Every they throw. The majority of their routes, guys are
Speaker 4: right at the sticks or in front of the sticks.
Speaker 4: You know the routes, the combinations. It's just try and
Speaker 4: get the ball. Try and give him some easy throws.
Speaker 4: But when he does throw it down the field, it
Speaker 4: is outside the numbers and they got a guy that
Speaker 4: will go get it. When you talk about George Pickens,
Speaker 4: George Pickens is phenomenal body control, balance, the way that
Speaker 4: he plays when you you have to cover him the
Speaker 4: whole time because when the play breaks down, he will
Speaker 4: find space and then you see fields will sling it
Speaker 4: side arm or run into his left. Just throw it
Speaker 4: downfield and Pickens will come up with the ball. He
Speaker 4: is a bad ball catcher and along the sidelines down
Speaker 4: the field in the red zone. He is their best
Speaker 4: receiver by far. They do have some speed. In number
Speaker 4: nineteen with Calvin Austin, was he wake Forest? Calvin Austin,
Speaker 4: Calvin Austin, wake Forest. I'm trying to think about it.
Speaker 4: I thought, off the top of the top of my head,
Speaker 4: watch the Memphis God Dang, I thought it was a
Speaker 4: wake Forest. But anyway, I'm glad. I'm glad, I asked you.
Speaker 4: But see, he's the guy that's got legitimate speed, Like
Speaker 4: they'll run him inside, throw him the ball and then
Speaker 4: he'll bust tackles. So you got it. He's a smaller guy.
Speaker 4: Got to tackle him or he's going to take it
Speaker 4: to the house. But they've got some guys that are
Speaker 4: pretty good run after the catch, guys with Austin and Pickens.
Speaker 4: Their offensive line is is a little bit suspect, I
Speaker 4: think in the running game, and they've had some protection
Speaker 4: problems with the center, and so those are all things
Speaker 4: I think Dallas can maybe take advantage of.
Speaker 3: Looking at justin feels, he's averaging two hundred and seven
Speaker 3: passing yards per game. He only has one interception, which
Speaker 3: that's the key. Obviously, you keep him from making at
Speaker 3: knocked in the air. Yeah, and you allow and allow,
Speaker 3: you allow him to play, but you allow him to
Speaker 3: play under the circumstances of don't mess it up.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: That being said, have you noticed anything different about his
Speaker 3: game and his approach this year, about his mechanics, about
Speaker 3: anything about what he does that's different than what he
Speaker 3: was in Chicago.
Speaker 4: He's the same guy. I mean really, when he runs around,
Speaker 4: that's when he's terrifying. He's like, he'll drop back and
Speaker 4: the next thing, you know, when you're watching say end
Speaker 4: zone copy, because you're watching the line, he'll drop back
Speaker 4: and then you could just tell in his brain it's
Speaker 4: like watch this, you know, and I'm going to take
Speaker 4: off running, you know, because he now he'll throw the
Speaker 4: ball in traffic. I mean, he's lucky he doesn't have
Speaker 4: more interceptions because he's had balls to get knocked in
Speaker 4: the air and you know, and the defense haven't come
Speaker 4: up with him. But he's he will force some passes now.
Speaker 4: But as far as the thing that you absolutely there's
Speaker 4: times where he will make the wrong read when it
Speaker 4: comes to the read option stuff. You could tell he
Speaker 4: gives the ball to Harris and then it's tackled for
Speaker 4: a game to two, where if he pulled it, it's
Speaker 4: probably gonna be a fifteen yard game, and you could
Speaker 4: tell you he just slumps when you're watching it. He
Speaker 4: hands it and he sees it it's a gain to
Speaker 4: two and then he sees the edge and he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, you can just you can see him body
Speaker 4: language go down. I have a feeling in this game
Speaker 4: he's gonna pull a lot of these balls and run. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's gonna test. He's going to test if Dallas is
Speaker 4: good enough on the edges, if they're disciplined enough with
Speaker 4: you know, and we've seen Neil and play with some
Speaker 4: discipline Golston, you know, discipline player. The guy that's been
Speaker 4: kind of confused a little bit has been or just
Speaker 4: kind of put in no man's land has been Micah
Speaker 4: a little bit. So we'll see how. But I have
Speaker 4: a feeling that you're going to see fields run the
Speaker 4: ball more. Remember the game's Chicago, Dallas played here.
Speaker 3: That's what he did. Michael made that wasn't Michael have
Speaker 3: made the big playing for running down Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there he's going to run. But that that's
Speaker 4: that's his weapon. And they're good, you know they're good.
Speaker 4: They're going to They're going to try and run the
Speaker 4: ball on you. I mean, even though they haven't had success.
Speaker 4: You mentioned it. Arthur Smith, who is a former Atlanta
Speaker 4: Falcons head coach. He was with the Tennessee Titans. We
Speaker 4: all knew the Titans ran the ball, you know, with
Speaker 4: how they did. So Arthur Smith, uh as the o
Speaker 4: c here. He's going to try and do things to
Speaker 4: protect his quarterback the best he can. But if you
Speaker 4: make it into a passing game for this guy, could
Speaker 4: be a little tough. Could be a little tough for him.
Speaker 3: When you look at a team like this that has
Speaker 3: George Pickens who he and and Friarmouth, I think are
Speaker 3: really the passing weapons like those are the guys you
Speaker 3: got to be most concerned about. How do you go
Speaker 3: about trying to account for them, knowing that the secondary
Speaker 3: has been a little banged up and you're trying to
Speaker 3: kind of manage that. Is this a game where you
Speaker 3: have to really think about, uh, you know, how you
Speaker 3: match up with him knowing that you're gonna have some
Speaker 3: challenges maybe on the outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a if anything, you need to shade
Speaker 4: his direction, you know, I'm talking about if you want
Speaker 4: a safety with the corner, I would shade that direction.
Speaker 4: I mean they got to guy. Scotty Miller is another
Speaker 4: guy that they have. I didn't mention him. He's kind
Speaker 4: of a He's like a useful third down pivot route
Speaker 4: slot guy. Yeah, he's a smaller, so what you see
Speaker 4: him is like they'll get in bunch formation, run to
Speaker 4: inside and loop him around and throw it in the
Speaker 4: flat and he catches it and then he's up the field.
Speaker 4: So they've got they've got third down options that they use.
Speaker 4: But to talk about furmuth Man, he he makes plays,
Speaker 4: I just don't know, run after catch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a catch.
Speaker 4: It and get whacked and he's on the ground. You know,
Speaker 4: kind of a guy. He really doesn't. You know. It's
Speaker 4: not like just these new age tight ends are just running.
Speaker 4: I mean the film I watched, it's like a lot
Speaker 4: of catch and then a lot of get cut down
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 3: But he knows how to get to it and catch them.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I would Pickens could be a mess to deal with,
Speaker 4: as you said, but you have to like with digs
Speaker 4: and then you know, hopefully Carson's back in that mode.
Speaker 4: But I would make sure that to that side of
Speaker 4: fourteen that I'm kind of keeping an eye in that
Speaker 4: direction because he's the one guy that can make that
Speaker 4: play down the field when they decide to throw it.
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Speaker 3: that you feel like they can at least hang their
Speaker 3: hat on that this will be good. What is that
Speaker 3: one thing we'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 3: Mortgage studios at the Star. Okay, so here's what I
Speaker 3: want to do. I want to find out from you guys,
Speaker 3: Like right now, as you look at this defense, they
Speaker 3: obviously are without their two Arguably they're two best defensive
Speaker 3: players for an extended period of time. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how long for Michael, but at least for a week.
Speaker 3: We know that for a week. That being said, if
Speaker 3: you had one thing you could put your hat on,
Speaker 3: because I think last year, I think we all universally
Speaker 3: agreed this team could get after the quarterback if you
Speaker 3: got them in situations where a team other team had
Speaker 3: to pass, good luck to you. What would you say
Speaker 3: that thing is this year? Does this defense have a
Speaker 3: thing that it really does well that it can really
Speaker 3: rely on?
Speaker 4: I will say to go first hereby could you know
Speaker 4: it's funny this week I mentioned about this is something
Speaker 4: I was curious about when the Steelers we talk about
Speaker 4: how they run their offense at the sticks, you know,
Speaker 4: the way the rally and play routes that are played short,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of try and get off the field
Speaker 4: that way. I mean they can't run defense. I mean
Speaker 4: they get in a lot of bad situations, but when
Speaker 4: they have to play third down pass defense at the sticks,
Speaker 4: one of the best teams in the league when it
Speaker 4: comes So if you play short like that, if you
Speaker 4: play short like the Steelers are going to try and
Speaker 4: play in this game with the tight end with Pickings,
Speaker 4: with you know, with Austin, if they're gonna if they're
Speaker 4: gonna run routes at the sticks or near the sticks
Speaker 4: and play short, one of the best teams in the
Speaker 4: league when it comes to defending those types of routes,
Speaker 4: believe it or not. So that to me was encouraging.
Speaker 4: If if if you're gonna tell me whoa wait a minute,
Speaker 4: this they're the Steelers offense is based on this right
Speaker 4: now for their quarterback. And what's the strength that Dallas has, Well,
Speaker 4: Dallas can combat you playing that way. Now, Dallas can't
Speaker 4: stop you from running the damn ball. Worth the heck,
Speaker 4: But you know, and and the Steelers. They're going to
Speaker 4: try and run the ball. I don't know how well
Speaker 4: they're going to be with this offensive line. Running the
Speaker 4: ball might be like the Giants game, but if it.
Speaker 4: But the one thing that they can do is is
Speaker 4: they when they get you in passing situations, they can
Speaker 4: find ways to get you off the field, especially if
Speaker 4: you're throwing the ball short.
Speaker 9: I do like this linebacking corps. I think there is
Speaker 9: still a lot of confidence that this linebacking corp should
Speaker 9: be able to take away. I think most of the
Speaker 9: issues in the run game have been a product of
Speaker 9: what's been going on up front, and the linebacking corps
Speaker 9: has been asked to do a lot of different things.
Speaker 9: But as far as the veteran leadership with guys like
Speaker 9: Eric Kendricks, the young tenacity that Demarvin over shown has
Speaker 9: shown mareslea foul. I still like what Demon Clark has
Speaker 9: done and his reps. Even though they've gone up and
Speaker 9: down and up and down. I think there is still
Speaker 9: a lot you could take away from that linebacking corps.
Speaker 9: I think that is a solid second level. I will
Speaker 9: still stand on the table that this is a top
Speaker 9: five linebacking corps in the league. I think they just
Speaker 9: need to be set up in better situations.
Speaker 7: I'll be honest, I don't. I mean, I don't. I'm
Speaker 7: not hanging my hat nowhere. It's still on my head because,
Speaker 7: like as they were talking, I'm thinking of every facet
Speaker 7: of the game, I'm thinking of the defense, every part
Speaker 7: of the defense, and there's been issues in every part
Speaker 7: different times, and then they've had moments. And I agree
Speaker 7: the linebackers they've done a really really good job and
Speaker 7: I've only really seen them struggle when they don't get
Speaker 7: help from the defensive line. So that's an area that's good.
Speaker 7: But if I had to point something that has suit
Speaker 7: out and that I think has been better than I
Speaker 7: thought would be these younger players and the way that
Speaker 7: they've come into this season with no NFL experience and
Speaker 7: they've been able to showcase things at a level that
Speaker 7: it's pretty decent, you know, given what it is, and
Speaker 7: obviously always room for improvement there. But you talk about
Speaker 7: guys like Overshown, he was out all season last year,
Speaker 7: the way that he was able to come back this year.
Speaker 7: You typically expect for an injured guy that's been out
Speaker 7: that long that it would take several multiple weeks for
Speaker 7: you to get back into rhythm. And he was right
Speaker 7: off the bat so good. So that's a plus. Even Carson,
Speaker 7: he's been out, he was out last week. We're hopefully
Speaker 7: expecting him to be back for this weekend. But he's
Speaker 7: another guy that I think has shined as well. Marshall Kneeland,
Speaker 7: another guy that so these Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I'm actually excited to see what he can
Speaker 3: do with those guys out with more plays.
Speaker 7: So that's the thing. They they the Cowboys had taken
Speaker 7: a gamble on these drafted players and hope that they
Speaker 7: can be good, and they've been good. It's just now,
Speaker 7: you know, you got to elevate the game as a whole.
Speaker 7: But that's the one positive thing that I think these
Speaker 7: younger players have actually been pretty productive for what's being asked.
Speaker 3: All right, here's what we're going to do. I got some players,
Speaker 3: some names I'm going to throw out to you guys,
Speaker 3: and I want you to give me an evaluation of
Speaker 3: how you think they've played. One thing that you you've
Speaker 3: really liked about what they do, and one thing that
Speaker 3: you would say, hey, this is an area where they
Speaker 3: have to get better or they should be focused on
Speaker 3: getting better. Let's start the guy we just brought up,
Speaker 3: Marshawn Neeland. What if you liked from him, what do
Speaker 3: you think where do you think he needs to improved?
Speaker 2: I like his physicality.
Speaker 9: I think there is Whenever he was coming out of
Speaker 9: Western Michigan, that was what he was hanging his hat on.
Speaker 9: As far as as far as a guy that can
Speaker 9: be two hundred and seventy plus pounds and get around.
Speaker 14: The edge with some power.
Speaker 9: He's been able to do that in some instances, especially
Speaker 9: in the run game. But I think I think overall
Speaker 9: there is still another level that he can take from
Speaker 9: the pass rush perspective, you know, just trying to get
Speaker 9: after the quarterback, doing the similar things that you do
Speaker 9: in the run game, just do it in the pass
Speaker 9: rush and try to get to the quarterback a little
Speaker 9: bit more. I mean, that was probably his one knock
Speaker 9: coming out of Kalamazoo was that he does not have
Speaker 9: those pass rushing knacks. I think he finished with four
Speaker 9: and a half sacks at wester from Michigan last year.
Speaker 9: Excuse me, He's gonna have to be able to find
Speaker 9: that here in these next few weeks, especially with Lawrence
Speaker 9: and Parsons out because you look at the best pass
Speaker 9: rushers on this team from an edge perspective, you're relying
Speaker 9: on him, You're lying on Chauncey Golston. These are two
Speaker 9: guys who have not been traditionally guys who are getting
Speaker 9: sack numbers. So Neilan's gonna have to be able to
Speaker 9: find that that that sack ability here in these next
Speaker 9: couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Good opportunity this week with Broderick Jones and and Dan Moore. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know these these tackles have you know, they've they've
Speaker 4: struggled at times on the edge and and so you know,
Speaker 4: he just I think he's one of those guys that
Speaker 4: once he gets it going, it's going to come in
Speaker 4: bunches for him because he's going to figure out. He's
Speaker 4: going to figure out like, Okay, this is how I
Speaker 4: break a guy down. This is how I get around,
Speaker 4: This is how I get to the corner, this is
Speaker 4: how I close on the It's tough with the quarterback,
Speaker 4: the guy. You know this guy this week, because he's
Speaker 4: gonna run around, he's gonna make you miss. He's a
Speaker 4: big guy, he's a physical guy. But once he gets
Speaker 4: one sack and then the second sack. He could get
Speaker 4: these in bunches. I love the way he plays with effort. Uh,
Speaker 4: He's always trying to get to the football. He's learning
Speaker 4: how to play with his hands. You know, there's some powers,
Speaker 4: as Nick mentioned, to his game. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: positive things about him if they could just get him
Speaker 4: going as a pass rusher. And I'm not saying he
Speaker 4: has to be double digit sack guy right now, because
Speaker 4: I never think that was going to be his game,
Speaker 4: but my gosh, he looks better now in the NFL
Speaker 4: rushing the passer than he did at Western Michigan, And
Speaker 4: so that's encouraging to me.
Speaker 3: Have you seen flashes of that yet, Like as far
Speaker 3: as his pass rushing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just you know, what's so hard to evaluate
Speaker 4: the Cowboys pass rush is because they're never in pact.
Speaker 4: They never get to rush the passer. It's you know,
Speaker 4: it's teams that were running the ball fifty two percent
Speaker 4: of the time on Dallas. You're not good enough stopping
Speaker 4: the run too, you know, I do know this from
Speaker 4: metrics and looking at it. You know, with Tank and
Speaker 4: Mike and out playing, you just lost forty seven percent
Speaker 4: of your pressures. You know, somebody's got to step up there.
Speaker 4: But the guy to me, if you said, give me
Speaker 4: a guy that can rush the passer, that has a
Speaker 4: chance of the young guys like Carl Lawson at one
Speaker 4: time could rush the pastor. I think Neelan's got a
Speaker 4: better shot of getting home than Carl Lawson, does you know?
Speaker 4: I really do. Now we'll see what with kJ Henry,
Speaker 4: He's going to get an opportunity. I'm almost positive I
Speaker 4: worry about him because he can't get to the edge,
Speaker 4: but he's a little bit like Kneelan and he just
Speaker 4: can't quite finish yet. But once those guys kind of
Speaker 4: figure it out, then all of a sudden, it's okay,
Speaker 4: that's how you do it. It just takes that one
Speaker 4: or two sacks to kind of get him going. But
Speaker 4: I'm very encouraged by the player because he's he's far
Speaker 4: better as a player than I even gave him credit
Speaker 4: for when he was coming out of college.
Speaker 7: No he I mean, yeah, he's put in the work
Speaker 7: and I think it's translated to while we're watching on
Speaker 7: the field, and I think one of the things with
Speaker 7: him is he just needs some more opportunities and he's
Speaker 7: going to get out this weekend. He's about to get
Speaker 7: it and show up. I think he's a what he's
Speaker 7: missing is exactly that. I do believe. Once he finds
Speaker 7: that confidence of getting to the quarterback getting a sack,
Speaker 7: I think it's going to become more of a trend
Speaker 7: for him and he's going to be a very explosive
Speaker 7: and positive player for this defense for sure.
Speaker 3: Let's get one more player, Jeff.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Just from Mike McCarthy at his press conference just now
Speaker 9: confirming that Brandon Cooks will not be playing this week
Speaker 9: due to a knee infection that he has developed over
Speaker 9: these last few days. So we were waiting on official
Speaker 9: word for that before putting it out on the show,
Speaker 9: but that's what we got.
Speaker 3: It's just keep on coming, keep on coming. I will
Speaker 3: say this though, I Jalen Tolbert is a guy that
Speaker 3: I think has played well for what they've asked him
Speaker 3: to do so far this year, and I kind of
Speaker 3: want to see what he does with, you know, being
Speaker 3: the number two. You would assume he's going to be
Speaker 3: probably the number two. The guy's going to get most
Speaker 3: of those reps sliding into that number two position and
Speaker 3: see what he can do with it. I'm interested to
Speaker 3: see what that looks like.
Speaker 9: Everybody screaming for Ryan Flinoy to be active. This is
Speaker 9: this is his time in the field. So yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Right, one of the let's get one more name for
Speaker 3: me in the show here. Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 9: I love what he did against the Giants. I will
Speaker 9: say it was a really nice bounce back game for him.
Speaker 9: Against the Giants, he was doing what we've gotten used
Speaker 9: to seeing Donovan Wilson do. But the first three weeks,
Speaker 9: my goodness, at times I wondered if Marcus Bell would
Speaker 9: have been a better option, just to put at the
Speaker 9: strong safety position and have him at least come and
Speaker 9: play the run a little bit better. I mean, it
Speaker 9: was bad angles, bad aggression and trying to bring down
Speaker 9: ball carriers. It was a couple of times where he
Speaker 9: was just kind of escorting Henry for fifteen yards against
Speaker 9: the Ravens. So but in the Giants game, I do
Speaker 9: like the different approach that he took. He was big,
Speaker 9: and the Giants only having twenty six rushing yards in
Speaker 9: that game as well. It was an all out defensive
Speaker 9: effort to that point. But Donovan Wilson was a part
Speaker 9: of that for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the angles could be crazy. You're like, boy, did
Speaker 4: he close his eyes on that one? You know, but
Speaker 4: he's a blow him up guy, and he could get
Speaker 4: around the ball. He can tackle, you know, with the
Speaker 4: best of him. But you're also gonna every once in
Speaker 4: a while you're going to have that one or two
Speaker 4: plays where you're like, boy, he did not see that
Speaker 4: very well. And I think he was much better against
Speaker 4: the Giants than he had been the previous games. And
Speaker 4: you need him to be that guy because if teams
Speaker 4: are going to run the ball and he's going to
Speaker 4: be in the hole or in the alley wherever he is,
Speaker 4: they need him to make tackles, you know, they don't
Speaker 4: need him to miss. And that's that's something that's if
Speaker 4: if there's one thing that you could say that really
Speaker 4: bothers me about this Dallas defense is the miss tackles.
Speaker 4: I mean, they they give they've given up damn near
Speaker 4: five hundred yards just mis tackles.
Speaker 3: And that wasn't a problem last year, Right, wasn't a problem.
Speaker 3: I don't recall that being a problem for them last year.
Speaker 3: But for some reason, it's just been because I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's be clear, all bets off when you're talking about
Speaker 3: those particular games, because last year those games they just
Speaker 3: got disc We don't need to about it.
Speaker 4: He's I believe he's not wrong. But to me, there
Speaker 4: there are some there. It seems like to me at
Speaker 4: every and the Giants game was far better than what
Speaker 4: the other previous three games were. But man, it just
Speaker 4: seemed like to me that they've had guys in position
Speaker 4: in these linebackers in position in that the Ravens game,
Speaker 4: it's just mistackling, missa mistackling. You know, they were fighting
Speaker 4: blocks and against the Saints, but they've just given up
Speaker 4: so many big plays. But last year I think there
Speaker 4: was times where teams ranted a little bit and you
Speaker 4: were like going, well, they just got to tackle better here,
Speaker 4: and they didn't.
Speaker 7: Well real quick. With Donovan Wilson, he's a guy that
Speaker 7: I absolutely love, but he he started to fade away
Speaker 7: in recent games. I mean last week he played well,
Speaker 7: but he was a guy that prior to them giving
Speaker 7: them giving him the new contract, I mean, you talk
Speaker 7: about the most aggressive player on the defense. He will
Speaker 7: not be afraid of tackling, and he's always there. He's
Speaker 7: always where the ball is somewhere around there, and then
Speaker 7: all of a sudden that kind of started going away
Speaker 7: slowly or missing some of those tackles. So I think
Speaker 7: he definitely has it in him, but I want to
Speaker 7: see more from him.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's a wrap. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 3: get into the Pittsburgh defense versus the Dallas offense. Till
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