Speaker 1: You were listening to Winning on reparations a correction of
Speaker 1: my heart radio. Hey, what's happening everybody? I'm Lingle Franca
Speaker 1: and I'm dope Knife are waiting on reparations, So what's good?
Speaker 1: What's good? How are you doing? I'm good yo. The
Speaker 1: aftermath of that show that I did, Yeah, call us
Speaker 1: about opening for Afromen. It was it was dope. Um.
Speaker 1: I started before he got there, that makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little late, a little late, but I think he
Speaker 1: got there in the middle of my set. It was.
Speaker 1: It was great energy. Like by the time I was in,
Speaker 1: I did like an hour. Oh kay Afromance. That was dope.
Speaker 1: He was playing his guitar, did the hits. Um. It
Speaker 1: was a pretty big venue in big stage, so there's
Speaker 1: enough room that every it wasn't like all on top
Speaker 1: of each other and ship o cool. It's gonna ask,
Speaker 1: but it's like to uh perform. Now that Delta has
Speaker 1: kind of got everybody spooked again. Yeah, I mean just
Speaker 1: after this weekend, a couple of spots of past you know,
Speaker 1: a mask mandate inside their U their places, which is
Speaker 1: it's a good thing, you know. I I it was
Speaker 1: my first time going out and like a month. So
Speaker 1: other than that same music stuff that I've been working
Speaker 1: on and trying to get this comic book done, you know,
Speaker 1: the same stuff, stuff like that, Are you are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. Um, we're getting close. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: the babies do on Friday. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: probably the last too we'll hear of me? Not we
Speaker 1: got I'll be around. I got some episodes and some
Speaker 1: great interviews lined up for while I'm gone. But this
Speaker 1: is the last little joint um joint joint that Mac
Speaker 1: and I will be doing for the next month or
Speaker 1: so while I, uh heal up and gets into the
Speaker 1: kiddo and whatnot. But yeah, I'm doing good, doing good. Um,
Speaker 1: I was really enthused to here. Last night we had
Speaker 1: I guess it was two weeks ago we did that interview,
Speaker 1: but Jazz Maine about Cops City, and they voted on
Speaker 1: that last night and actually voted to UM table it.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have a couple more weeks of discussion.
Speaker 1: And so it's a big victory for the organizers in
Speaker 1: Atlanta that you know, had been canvassing and holding rallies
Speaker 1: and phone banking and getting the word out about this
Speaker 1: crazy the cop mansion. So they're going to build in
Speaker 1: the middle of like the last forest in Atlanta. Um
Speaker 1: And so that was some good news I got last night.
Speaker 1: Shoutouts to Dark and Sunrise Movement a t L and
Speaker 1: love them for pulling that off. Yeah, we got some
Speaker 1: good feedback for that episode to where Yeah, they're doing
Speaker 1: good work out there. It's great to talk to the
Speaker 1: talk to Jasmine. But yeah, things have been well. And
Speaker 1: speaking of saving the forest. Um, we had a episode
Speaker 1: today jam Packed with the environment. It's like open it.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like fern gully in this bitch. What. So,
Speaker 1: So today we're gonna be taking a look at some
Speaker 1: eco rap. You might ask, what's eco rap? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that there's like there's probably different names to what
Speaker 1: we're actually referring to. But for the purposes of this show,
Speaker 1: when we say eco wrap, what we mean is hip
Speaker 1: hop music that has like a focus on environmental advocacy
Speaker 1: or awareness. You know, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: But we're calling eco rap for all times purposes. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna listen to a bunch of songs. We're gonna
Speaker 1: dive into some artists, but you know, a week ago
Speaker 1: when we started putting this together. Um, the u N
Speaker 1: came out with that devastating climate change report that has
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much most of the rational world on
Speaker 1: edge or yeah, or has seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: just cut their hands up, like, well, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: do ship anyway, and now I'm definitely not gonna do
Speaker 1: ship because everything is a lot of dum happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the IPCCS report on climate change a
Speaker 1: little bit. When he came out, and uh, it's spurned
Speaker 1: headlines like the u n's terrifying climate report. The u
Speaker 1: N Climate Change Report sounds code read for humanity. U
Speaker 1: N Climate Change Report predicts dire future for New York.
Speaker 1: A hotter future is certain, according to the New York
Speaker 1: To the New York u N Climate Report and the
Speaker 1: last one Climate change You run report is a frightening
Speaker 1: wake up call. So before we get to the music,
Speaker 1: we're going to dive into a bit of the UN's report,
Speaker 1: discuss what, if any immediate action is being taken, how
Speaker 1: climate change disproportionately affects poor people, and we'll discuss whether
Speaker 1: or not, um, the individual actually has an effect on
Speaker 1: the outcome, or whether this is something that has to
Speaker 1: be dealt with by governments. We'll be back with that
Speaker 1: after the jump, all right. So last Monday, the U
Speaker 1: n report came out learning the world the global warmings
Speaker 1: on the verge of spiraling out of control. The Intergovernmental
Speaker 1: Panel on Climate Change or i p c C, which
Speaker 1: itself is the result of the World meteor Roger meteor
Speaker 1: or Logical Meteorological Organization teaming up with United Nations Environment
Speaker 1: Program back in Just to give you an idea of
Speaker 1: how thorough this panel is, any report that the group
Speaker 1: has issued had to be approved not just by the
Speaker 1: researchers who collaborated on it, but also the government of
Speaker 1: the member countries, which as of today numbers at about
Speaker 1: a hundred. The IPCC report found that shocker humans are
Speaker 1: unequivably to blame um from for climate change, and that
Speaker 1: rapid action to cut greenhouse gas missions could limit some impacts,
Speaker 1: but others are now locked in so certain things that
Speaker 1: we can't really turn back the hands of time on sort.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna happen. But there are some things, some
Speaker 1: steps we can take to mitigate the full scale disaster
Speaker 1: that it's possible if um if we don't you know, together.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about this report? What did
Speaker 1: you think when you first heard about it? I mean,
Speaker 1: I felt like drastic action on climate change was necessary
Speaker 1: long before this, But to learn that like certain things
Speaker 1: are going to happen now, like it's too late to
Speaker 1: stop certain stuff from transpiring, and sort of grappling with
Speaker 1: the both environmental and human toll of the that eventuality.
Speaker 1: It's been, it's been, it's been heavy. But then I
Speaker 1: guess it's letting slitten slitten, it's a little flyer under
Speaker 1: maya to sort of think about, all right, like what
Speaker 1: we gotta do, what we gotta do to make sure
Speaker 1: it's not any worse than that. We're talking about just
Speaker 1: incredible amounts of devastation and loss of life then, I
Speaker 1: mean stuff that we haven't even fully like grasp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean we were
Speaker 1: talking earlier about some of the dum ship that's going around.
Speaker 1: I you know, I in a in a sense, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be too judgmental of it,
Speaker 1: because you know, I kind of I get it in
Speaker 1: a way. I can remember when I was like in
Speaker 1: third grade and we used to in class would have
Speaker 1: like teachers like okay, kids, so the hole the ozone
Speaker 1: layer and everyone should recycle and you know, watch how
Speaker 1: you use energy. It's like these are things, these are
Speaker 1: things that we've been talking about, Yeah, since I was
Speaker 1: a child, you know what I'm saying. So it's if
Speaker 1: you just if you go through the natural progression of
Speaker 1: the years, no drastic action has been taken since right
Speaker 1: because the industry cleverly put it on us, like through
Speaker 1: their marketing spend and like funding campaigns where we made
Speaker 1: it seem like recycling and the individual were um was
Speaker 1: the was the one that could turn this ship around. Also,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's as a as a like
Speaker 1: uh component do you think that was like a strategy
Speaker 1: like absolutely yeah, Like the idea of a carbon footprint
Speaker 1: like was absolutely marketed by like fossil fuel industry is
Speaker 1: to get people to think about their what their fault
Speaker 1: is in in uh climate change and take the heat
Speaker 1: off of people like BP and x ON. I think
Speaker 1: it's also to a degree also like cultural like neoliberalism
Speaker 1: tends to like oh individual responsibility da da daa Like
Speaker 1: I think you put those two things together, um, and
Speaker 1: then you get the mess that we have. The mess
Speaker 1: that we have when people like still like oh, if
Speaker 1: I use my usable toad or whatever, it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: Like nah, bro, that's interesting. Now that's interesting because like,
Speaker 1: I mean, neither one of us is like a climate
Speaker 1: scientist or anything like that. But I mean, is at
Speaker 1: this point in the game, is the conclusion that individual
Speaker 1: action is this is that cap Like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I mean, I would say individual action
Speaker 1: is kind of cap Like if you're gonna take individual action,
Speaker 1: you might as well like take to the streets and
Speaker 1: demand that like Congress stop fossil fuel subsidious and start,
Speaker 1: you know, subsidizing solar and win to a higher degree.
Speaker 1: And like yeah, or does nationalize the I don't know,
Speaker 1: an energy and economy. If we're really gonna if we're
Speaker 1: really gonna stop like mass devastation from happening. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like that, like what kind of individual action
Speaker 1: we're talking about? Really? And it thinks it's mass action,
Speaker 1: which is going to require just people like clamoring for
Speaker 1: like wide scale change at the systems level. I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, the mere fact that this is even
Speaker 1: up for debate, it's just wild. I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that again makes you throw your hands up, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what the what the fun are we gonna do? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, we're literally talking about the survival of humanity,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's like if if
Speaker 1: the people who have the most resources and the most
Speaker 1: power can't can't be convinced to like look at look
Speaker 1: at ship in the long term like that, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do with that um so. U UN
Speaker 1: Secretary General Antonio Guterres described the report as a code
Speaker 1: read for humanity. Like the headline um he said, the
Speaker 1: alarm bells are deafening. This report must sound a death
Speaker 1: kneel for coal and fossil fuels because they destroy our planet.
Speaker 1: In three months, the U N Corps Climate Conference in Glasgow,
Speaker 1: Scotland will try to ring much of the ambitious climate
Speaker 1: action out of the nations of the world and the
Speaker 1: money to go with it. Drawing them more than scientific studies,
Speaker 1: the ABCC report gives the most comprehends them in detailed
Speaker 1: picture yet of how climate chance is altering the world.
Speaker 1: And here's some some alarming facts from the report. Per
Speaker 1: Global citizen UM two. It was a hot a decade
Speaker 1: on in reported history, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide
Speaker 1: every director levels in the atmosphere, and c I S
Speaker 1: has decreased for thirty two straight years, and ice melt
Speaker 1: is accelerating. The ocean absorbs of the heat by global warming,
Speaker 1: and of the excess carbon emissions there are ninety There
Speaker 1: were tropical storms in god damn, six point seven million
Speaker 1: people were displaced from their homes by natural disaster in
Speaker 1: that's the one where it's like, that's where we're already at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we're already at. I mean, if you if
Speaker 1: you think that the the right wingers across the world
Speaker 1: are causing ship in their countries about immigration, now wait
Speaker 1: until you have millions of people that are starving and
Speaker 1: scared and literally can't go physically, can't go back to
Speaker 1: where they came from. Exactly. Yeah, unless immediate, rapid, large
Speaker 1: scale action is taken to reduce some emissions. The report
Speaker 1: says the average global temperature is likely to reach across
Speaker 1: the one point five degrees celsius two point seven degrees
Speaker 1: fahrenheit forming threshold within twenty years. At that point, we
Speaker 1: can expect to lose between seventy and our coral reefs.
Speaker 1: Mass extinctions will put many ecosystems across the world at
Speaker 1: risk of collapse. You've seen the movie, has seen the deal.
Speaker 1: So far, the pledges to cut emissions have been made,
Speaker 1: but they ain't even close enough to what we need
Speaker 1: to start reducing the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Um,
Speaker 1: So let's talk about how this impacts people. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: if I think the struggle that many have faced with
Speaker 1: embrace of environmentalism, and like, oh, I don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about the whales and the fucking polar parsonship, but
Speaker 1: the human cost of that is very easy to kind
Speaker 1: of shake someone with. And then particularly thinking about frontline communities,
Speaker 1: to people, the poor and people, you know, the people
Speaker 1: that are going to be really impacted by this most
Speaker 1: So let's turn to kind of consider some of that.
Speaker 1: So we know the ways that it affects just you know, everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, the if if it's if force are catching
Speaker 1: on fire, that's affecting everybody's heir, is affecting homes of
Speaker 1: you know, thousands of people. If the sea levels are rising,
Speaker 1: if you live on a coast, you're in danger. We
Speaker 1: know how climate change can you know, affect just general
Speaker 1: famine and cause droughts and things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: you have to you have to remember that everything that
Speaker 1: happens to two let's put it this way, everything that
Speaker 1: happens to people who have money, that's bad, It's happening
Speaker 1: like ten times, whereas people who don't have money, that
Speaker 1: goes for the count tree that you're in. And then
Speaker 1: when you look at ship on a global picture or
Speaker 1: a global scale, so um with that, the increased frequency
Speaker 1: of intend, the increased the increased frequency and intensity of
Speaker 1: extreme weather events like hurricanes, wildfires, and droughts threatened the
Speaker 1: lives of the front line communities, driving people from their
Speaker 1: homes and jeopardizing food sources and livelihoods. All these effect
Speaker 1: increased the likelihoods of more conflict, hunger, and poverty. People
Speaker 1: living in poverty rely on agriculture and natural resources to survive.
Speaker 1: For these people, the effects of climate change shifting weather,
Speaker 1: limited water resources, and the increased competition for resources. Remember
Speaker 1: your increased competition for resources are all real matters of
Speaker 1: life and death. So climate changes turned their lives into
Speaker 1: a desperate guessing game. This is per the Mercy Corps.
Speaker 1: According to the World Health Organization, as of the year,
Speaker 1: climate change is expected to contribute to approximately two hifty
Speaker 1: thousand additional deaths per year from all nutrition, malaria, diarrhea,
Speaker 1: heat stress, other you know, secondary impacts of what mac
Speaker 1: has described in the Mercy Corps um kind of breakdown
Speaker 1: of how this is all, how does all them go?
Speaker 1: How it feels like, you know, almost like yelling into
Speaker 1: the wind because it's like, what again, we're not we
Speaker 1: this is waiting on reparations, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we we definitely support taking action and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So we definitely don't want to have an episode where
Speaker 1: we're kind of like, yeah, man, this ship sucks. This
Speaker 1: is bad, and that's it. So, um, I guess if
Speaker 1: individual action isn't necessarily the what should be the focus,
Speaker 1: then what do you think are some things that we
Speaker 1: the people can actually do to like convince their governments,
Speaker 1: whether it's local or a national at all, so like
Speaker 1: take more action than they are. I mean, yeah, earlier
Speaker 1: this summer, dozens of youth activists with the Sunrise Movement
Speaker 1: we're arrested by Secret Service more blockading. Was it like
Speaker 1: all ten interesces to the White House like like taking
Speaker 1: I mean non violent direct action like that to be like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is not a fucking game. Um, it's really critical.
Speaker 1: And then you know they got backed up by um
Speaker 1: um U Alexander Crossinger Cortez is there, Jamal Bowman, Krey
Speaker 1: bush Um and so like, you know, sort of helping
Speaker 1: give strength to the voices of these this minority we
Speaker 1: have in Congress that are calling for things like a
Speaker 1: green New Deal, like without a strong public mandate. Like yo,
Speaker 1: the people are like really fucking serious about this. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of room for them to like even
Speaker 1: introduce us into the conversation around things like the infrastructure bill,
Speaker 1: um et cetera. What do you think about like maybe
Speaker 1: possibly like organizing a new voter block, because the way
Speaker 1: that I see it is this Trump's every other policy
Speaker 1: concerned or issue, you know what I mean? So what
Speaker 1: if what if there is like some sort of mobilization
Speaker 1: behind a voter block that is like yo, anybody talking
Speaker 1: any goofy the climate change isn't real ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's like ensure that that person cannot
Speaker 1: be elected to office because I don't know this this
Speaker 1: ship seems like a code read all hands on deck,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be really if if you if people
Speaker 1: are feeling that doomer ship now, it's gonna be really
Speaker 1: hard for them to snap out of it in fifteen
Speaker 1: years if something serious isn't that Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think part of that is is um is popular political
Speaker 1: edification around the intersectionality of the issue of this issue,
Speaker 1: that that that disproportionately low income and black and brown
Speaker 1: communities are going to be impacted by displacement by even
Speaker 1: today you know, things like our currently current energy system
Speaker 1: and how it's set up, like uh, crazy energy bills
Speaker 1: and like the way that's that impacts like poor folks.
Speaker 1: Thinking about how intersects with the interests of people in
Speaker 1: the labor movement. If we need to transition all these jobs,
Speaker 1: we gotta get labor people on board. So they're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're down. Do you mean to tell me they don't
Speaker 1: butt me up to you know, an hour if I'm
Speaker 1: building solar panels instead of I don't know, like cracking
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like Yo, let's get this. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: but then organized people into that voting box that you're describing,
Speaker 1: where like people are like yo, yeah. But ultimately, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I the question then becomes do we even have
Speaker 1: time to vote in change? I think it's like, whoever
Speaker 1: we got, we gotta put all the pressure on them.
Speaker 1: It doesn't we cannot wait until Oh we have another
Speaker 1: press that that's gonna are better. Oh we take over
Speaker 1: one more seat in the Senate. Like, it's not we
Speaker 1: don't have time. I mean, there really isn't that. This
Speaker 1: is like, uh, it's like you know the action movie
Speaker 1: when the heroes like, we can't wait for back up,
Speaker 1: we gotta go. You know. This is one of those
Speaker 1: sort of moments where it's like there's there's no one
Speaker 1: coming to help if we don't if we don't do
Speaker 1: this ship right now, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's definitely that sort of situation. In the meantime, we've experienced,
Speaker 1: you know, these record breaking heats. Uh, five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: acres of forests are burning in California. Last month, the
Speaker 1: European Weather Agency issued extreme flood warning. German meteorologists said
Speaker 1: that they hadn't seen anything like this in five hundred
Speaker 1: or even a thousand years, and the result was flooding
Speaker 1: that left more than a hundred people dead and thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred unaccounted for. It's already killing people, or it's like
Speaker 1: literally literally people already dying and stuff. Yeah, by it's
Speaker 1: twenty one hundred if we have failed to put up
Speaker 1: defenses or do nothing to curb our global emissions. New
Speaker 1: research has found that coastal flooding could increase by nearly
Speaker 1: with six million people living on the coastlines less than
Speaker 1: ten meters or three or two feet above sea level.
Speaker 1: Even the steady rise in sea levels means leaving whole populations, homes,
Speaker 1: and infrastructure to the whims of the sea. UM. Under
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario examined in the study, some seven
Speaker 1: million people, four percent of the world's population, could be
Speaker 1: impacted by coastal flooding. So where they moving. They're moving inland,
Speaker 1: they're moving, you know, to the Midwest, they're moving to
Speaker 1: America from other countries, um, And so thinking about the
Speaker 1: economic impacts, the social impacts, UM, and then the physical
Speaker 1: impacts of just like, yeah, competing for resources to make
Speaker 1: that happen, uh, price gouging on necessities as people, as migrations,
Speaker 1: as populations migrate, and just fuck, there's a lot so
Speaker 1: couldn't re emphasizes report not just about what's coming, it's
Speaker 1: about what's already here and to I guess, break out
Speaker 1: of because this is heavy. This is a lot of
Speaker 1: heavy ship. Right, Let's talk a little bit about what
Speaker 1: is already in what are we already doing. So you know,
Speaker 1: UM Infrastructure Bill just passed in the Senate going over
Speaker 1: to the House, and it does have some it's not
Speaker 1: super ambitious, but it does have some stuff in there
Speaker 1: to mitigate the impacts of climate change. I say mitigate
Speaker 1: the impacts because a lot of it is stuff like
Speaker 1: dealing with um, like like creating more more resilient communities
Speaker 1: to withstand the impact of climate change rather than reverse
Speaker 1: the trend that is bringing the s long. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's got eleven point six billion dollars in there for
Speaker 1: construction funds for projects like blood control for example. UM,
Speaker 1: the Forest Service could get billions of dollars to remove
Speaker 1: flammable vegetation from the lands it manages, so make wildfires
Speaker 1: so damaging. So it's like not making sure we don't
Speaker 1: have more wildfires or more floods, it's just making sure
Speaker 1: we can control the floods and making sure that the
Speaker 1: wildfires when they raised they damage less stuff like, um
Speaker 1: let the uh let's see, it's yeah, and so it's
Speaker 1: not inmitious enough to like actually stop the trajectory that
Speaker 1: work currently on it and it's under it's not understandable,
Speaker 1: but it's just like to stop the trajectory that we're on,
Speaker 1: like the world has to pause. Yeah, similarly to how
Speaker 1: how they how the world did for two weeks during
Speaker 1: the global pandemic when it's just like everything needs to
Speaker 1: stop and we need to reconsider how we're doing all
Speaker 1: this ship and not even the whole world, just like
Speaker 1: us in Europe, Yeah, exactly, you know, because us in
Speaker 1: Europe just need a fucking ship two weeks just yeah,
Speaker 1: or not chill. We didn't do a general strike, frankly,
Speaker 1: shut down the entire the people need to shut down
Speaker 1: the entire economy until we're like yo, like climate change
Speaker 1: or or the will just keep the economy close until
Speaker 1: y'all do some ship. Well, this goes out to our
Speaker 1: especially young listeners if they're any out there. You know,
Speaker 1: it's by the time this hits and Maria are gonna
Speaker 1: be like sixty, you know what I'm saying. So this,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is y'all's fight. Y'all need
Speaker 1: not not that, not that y'all aren't doing it already,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. We joke a lot
Speaker 1: about with the with the kid, like like why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Why would you have a kid right now?
Speaker 1: But it's like, somebody's gotta lead. So I'll be I'm
Speaker 1: gonna teach this a little bitsh how to grow corn
Speaker 1: and shoot guns. He's gonna be leading people into the
Speaker 1: mountains to their bunker where they'll have little aggro tunnels
Speaker 1: that you know, grow the wheats and stuff. Yeah, old
Speaker 1: John Connor, Yeah, somebody, somebody's gotta be. Someone's gotta raise
Speaker 1: that child into the world that's coming. You know, the
Speaker 1: rest of these kids ain't gonna be ready. So yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking again, people ready for the world that's coming. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna come
Speaker 1: back and check out some environmentally aware rap and then
Speaker 1: also check out some bona fide, you know, self identified
Speaker 1: eco rap and check out what that's about. We'll be
Speaker 1: back with that after the jump, all right. So you know,
Speaker 1: for a long time, you know, there've been rappers who
Speaker 1: have been aware, conscious of the environment around them that
Speaker 1: haven't necessarily fallen into the eco wraps of genre like
Speaker 1: our last guests on this show before or we've mentioned
Speaker 1: the most stuff song New World water cats have been
Speaker 1: on that tip for a while. But I'm sorry we're
Speaker 1: using no not nothing. Started talking before I had a
Speaker 1: thing to say. Yeah, um, but you know, just as
Speaker 1: far as a couple modern cats who are pretty popular
Speaker 1: who have got their mind on the environment. Uh, the
Speaker 1: son of Hall of Fame rapper Will Smith, Jaden Smith,
Speaker 1: is well, I would say that of fame. Yeah, fresh
Speaker 1: Prince is in the dope knife metaphorical rap Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He yeah, he's in there. He's he's the first ballot,
Speaker 1: no question. But um, so, Jaden Smith said, I saw
Speaker 1: what happens plastic goes to waste and how it affects us.
Speaker 1: Will Smith has been involved with something it's called just Water,
Speaker 1: and this stemmed from the years to improve infrastructures and
Speaker 1: communities by giving them economic opportunity while also using STEM
Speaker 1: to solve environmental problems using his connections and expertise. He's
Speaker 1: responded to the ongoing Flint water crisis by teaming up
Speaker 1: again with the partner Drew Fitzgerald to bring the water
Speaker 1: box to the community through the nonprofit five oh one
Speaker 1: C three. Water is life and when people are denied
Speaker 1: access to clean water, that is the ultimate sin. Smith said, So,
Speaker 1: I guess this is like a water access purifying system
Speaker 1: that this company is doing. This is admirables fun. This
Speaker 1: is in another example of how like individual actions cap
Speaker 1: no offense to no offense to him whatsoever. But it's
Speaker 1: like Jaden Smith can't rebuild the water infrastructure under Flint. No,
Speaker 1: like an individual just can't do that, and that's what
Speaker 1: needs to happen. And so what we end up doing
Speaker 1: is man aid solutions like okay, getting box with the
Speaker 1: water to them, which it's great. I'm so glad that's happening.
Speaker 1: But that's exactly why we have to put pressure on
Speaker 1: governments because, like I literally, even if I wanted to,
Speaker 1: like if I had a billion dollars, like what would
Speaker 1: I do to build rebuild the water infrastructure under Flint? Right?
Speaker 1: But I can't. You need the government has to do that.
Speaker 1: But what makes it, I think, I guess just to
Speaker 1: be Devil's advocate. What makes those gestures like that important
Speaker 1: is that that brings awareness, you know, absolutely No, this
Speaker 1: is a great use of one's platform and capital. You
Speaker 1: might have like a thirteen year old kid asking themselves
Speaker 1: the same question that you just asked, Like quite a minute,
Speaker 1: what is Jaden Smith the one who has to do
Speaker 1: this ship? You know what I mean? And then that
Speaker 1: inspires them to like get out there and take some actions.
Speaker 1: Other notable ones who've got Scissa from the Top Dog
Speaker 1: crew In the R and B song, Striss made a
Speaker 1: statement in support of sustainability by teasing fans with plans
Speaker 1: on a new collection of sustainable merchandise. So you've got
Speaker 1: to get that doal with Doleville, and I guess you
Speaker 1: might as well have a message behind her, right um.
Speaker 1: She mentioned that the clothes were recycled and that some
Speaker 1: of them had the phrase puck flastic and Sustainability Gang
Speaker 1: explicit messages and support of a healthier planet. Now see
Speaker 1: this justice like this are to be are fall a
Speaker 1: bit more in the line of like the performative doesn't
Speaker 1: really do ship, doesn't really help anybody out sort of thing. Nope,
Speaker 1: And I don't even blame us if for thinking it
Speaker 1: could help, because that's how we even socialized growing up,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh, recycle bring a redusable water bottle, bring
Speaker 1: your toe bag, you know, drive a hybrid where like
Speaker 1: we think that and like that, yeah that it doesn't
Speaker 1: like at least Jaden is like actually doing some like
Speaker 1: giving people some like MATERI AREO, here's some actual water
Speaker 1: to the amount of people that I can get it to.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, She's ultimately profiting off of
Speaker 1: this for one and second of all, like it does
Speaker 1: nothing to draw attention to the fact that like the
Speaker 1: ghouls that acts on like are purposefully poisoning the planet
Speaker 1: for profit and that they have to be taken out
Speaker 1: winning it's necessary, Like that's that's the ship man, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the ship. Yeah, I mean sustainability gang. Whatever. Let's
Speaker 1: let's listen to some raps. Guy, Well, I am s
Speaker 1: os uh mother nature up first, the environment is stragle
Speaker 1: and we've been on the gradual declining in a lifetime
Speaker 1: and lose the battle, get burned by bolcanoes, get bloom
Speaker 1: by tornado. What's interesting about the song, It's like, actually
Speaker 1: why I like like struggle with religion at times is like, oh,
Speaker 1: all these things are happening. I guess we pray to
Speaker 1: the Lord to come help us out. It's like oh yes,
Speaker 1: and also don't stop there. Also you can do something
Speaker 1: about it by do yeah, just taking action and they're
Speaker 1: waiting around for um Jehovah to do something. Maybe Jehovah,
Speaker 1: what Jeoba wants you to do is you do something
Speaker 1: that is the answer to your prayers. And sometimes but
Speaker 1: sometimes it stops there where it's like I guess I
Speaker 1: was proby about it and then just like let it
Speaker 1: be like nas on, like you have the power to
Speaker 1: do something about this, you're not even like just don't
Speaker 1: just you know all I have a pray and that's
Speaker 1: all I got, Like, nah, do something about you pray
Speaker 1: when like there's been nothing else that you can do.
Speaker 1: How about like as the last resort or like or
Speaker 1: you see like you're like ignoring the answer to your
Speaker 1: prayers and like not and and just like ignoring operating
Speaker 1: needs to take action. I just like this song. Um
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a cool song. It's it's you know,
Speaker 1: one of those like inspernationally asked sounding songs. It does
Speaker 1: to me, you bring up the issue and attacking you know,
Speaker 1: subject matter like this where it's like I think it
Speaker 1: just it would be a lot more interesting and a
Speaker 1: lot more effective if you if you're gonna make something
Speaker 1: about like climate change, to make it about some real
Speaker 1: world individual experience that relates to climate change, as opposed
Speaker 1: to like attacking things from the broad the environment's gonna
Speaker 1: kill us. We all gotta get together because it's tornadoes
Speaker 1: over there, hurricanes over here, floods over there, instead of
Speaker 1: talking about like, yo, my neighborhood, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: my town. I don't know that that makes sense. It does.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that while it's kind of a
Speaker 1: it's like a different thematics been on the conscious hip
Speaker 1: hop genre, if we could call such um it does
Speaker 1: have that in common lot of other conscious hip hop,
Speaker 1: where it is diagnosing the issue without getting into the specifics.
Speaker 1: I mean, like some songs might be like oh over
Speaker 1: on Crunchhaw this of that, and like get into the
Speaker 1: specifics of one's neighborhood. All the times it's just impressionistic,
Speaker 1: like this is ship that happens in the hood that
Speaker 1: like I see around me, and like I'm diagnosing the
Speaker 1: ills and in a generic community. And that's the same
Speaker 1: kind of thing here where um he talks about you know,
Speaker 1: Miami and a tsunami and Rossa's in Jamaica get hit
Speaker 1: by an earthquake. Other than that, it's just like a
Speaker 1: general diagnosis of like, oh funk. It's pretty much like
Speaker 1: it's the musical equivalent of scissors merchandise line. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not maybe not as shallow, but in its
Speaker 1: effectiveness I think i'd say, because it is and what
Speaker 1: it accomplishes. Yeah, it's just it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you that that's the if you're if you
Speaker 1: were going to parody like conscious rap or if you're
Speaker 1: gonna parody environmentalist wrap, it would kind of sound like this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We've gotta work together for
Speaker 1: a brighter future. Hurricanes. You know. It's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it just doesn't it doesn't have enough of a
Speaker 1: personal touch for me to feel that it's effective. And
Speaker 1: I feel like it's also a matter of, uh of
Speaker 1: locating it temporally, because like, if this had come out
Speaker 1: in like it would have been mind blowing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, oh my god. But this came out I
Speaker 1: think in like two So okay, so let's we're a
Speaker 1: little we're a little past this. At the point in
Speaker 1: last let's check out one that does definitely have a
Speaker 1: personal touch to it. Now, this is like an actual
Speaker 1: eco rapper. This is a DJ cava with the tracks
Speaker 1: Sprout that Life. When I say like an actual go rapper,
Speaker 1: like he identifies as an eco rapper. Um, we've got
Speaker 1: this quote from he says, my work is all about
Speaker 1: changing the mindset. It's gotten to the point that the
Speaker 1: practice of environmental sustainability is associated almost exclusively with white people. Um.
Speaker 1: His mission is to wrap about climate change, food justice,
Speaker 1: and plant based foods spread far beyond his Denver hometown.
Speaker 1: So let's check out this joint. Sprout that Life. Pull
Speaker 1: up on your block in that veggie fair. Keep my
Speaker 1: broccoln local. Like I always did to watch my compan
Speaker 1: the street. In the music video, he's got like a
Speaker 1: little puppet version of himself dancing in the greenhouse. It's adorable.
Speaker 1: Advocating the farmer's market. I feel that. Okay, see, now
Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking about, because it's like all
Speaker 1: of the everything that we've been talking about in this episode,
Speaker 1: all these concerns about the environment and how people are
Speaker 1: living and what direction we're heading. All of those concerns
Speaker 1: that we talked about comes across into the song that's
Speaker 1: very specifically about out like eating Russell's rocks. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you you you, you get, you get,
Speaker 1: you get all of that in something that's personal and
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like I take more from that
Speaker 1: than if it was just like like to me, that's
Speaker 1: a good representation of eco hip hop as opposed to
Speaker 1: just putting on a track with a guy listing what
Speaker 1: what natural disasters there are that exists, you know, like
Speaker 1: like where thank you? I know that they're hurricanes and
Speaker 1: floods and fires. Yeah, what's not beating this one? Hell
Speaker 1: goddamn all right, I'm mess. We gotta deal Ted's cattle.
Speaker 1: With the track Broken, I have talked about him before.
Speaker 1: I've talked about him before. Yeah, the episode talking about
Speaker 1: indigenous hip hop. Let's check out this track Broken as
Speaker 1: a generation that humanity that determines what kind of will
Speaker 1: people passed down to. I'm on something that's that's a beautiful. Man.
Speaker 1: He's like giving shouts out to the you know, the
Speaker 1: ecosystems that have been devastated, the lives that have been lost,
Speaker 1: the folks that you know, got arrested at Sandy Rock
Speaker 1: and stuff has kind of got like a it's like
Speaker 1: very much in the vein of like you know, poor
Speaker 1: went out for your homies, um that you might find
Speaker 1: and and I want to say more traditional hip hop
Speaker 1: and more mainstream hip hop, but like very very massively
Speaker 1: adapted here. It's kind of cool. Alright see that again.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the sort of ship that I like
Speaker 1: to hear. Yeah, he's bringing it back to the systemic level.
Speaker 1: He's talking about that how colonization has brought us here,
Speaker 1: like you know, thinking about us in the larger pictures
Speaker 1: like its hip hop tropes that you know about. It's
Speaker 1: just replacing the subject matter, which is all it is
Speaker 1: all it's about anyway, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: that that that song, uh easily sounds like you're not
Speaker 1: not typical, but it's like it's of the mold of
Speaker 1: like the serious, reflective, reminiscent rap song, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you could have a song that's like
Speaker 1: that with the same exact beat where the m C
Speaker 1: is rapping about yo, my homies that died, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or you or you can have somebody
Speaker 1: rapping about yo, the girl that got away Yo, that
Speaker 1: relationship that that ended, and he chose to use that
Speaker 1: and rap about Yo, my fear of what the environment
Speaker 1: is gonna be like in the future. Would yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out to the yeah, shout out to the water protectors
Speaker 1: that got hosed down defending the land against the Dakota
Speaker 1: Access pipeline, like that's that's that's that's heavy and our
Speaker 1: last track for the day. It is not a typical
Speaker 1: rap song, and also it's one that I personally, as
Speaker 1: long as the song has been out, I did not
Speaker 1: really realize what the actual content of it was. I
Speaker 1: thought it was just like a fun whatever whatever song,
Speaker 1: but it was the childish Gambino song feels like summer.
Speaker 1: Let's check this out before we talk about a little bit.
Speaker 1: So yeah. So it's one of those deceptive songs with
Speaker 1: the deceptive meaning, where you know, it just sounds like
Speaker 1: a feel good summer anthem. But the more you listen
Speaker 1: to it, it's clear that the song it's it's about
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things, but climate change in the
Speaker 1: need to immediately shift our behavior is definitely one of
Speaker 1: the things that's a raised in the song. Um the
Speaker 1: first verse, he says seven billions or seven billion souls
Speaker 1: that move around the sun, rolling faster and not a
Speaker 1: chance to slow down, slow down. Men who made machines
Speaker 1: that want what they decide. Second verse, he makes it
Speaker 1: clear that the song is about the ways that we're
Speaker 1: destroying everything. Um. He touches on global warming, the lack
Speaker 1: of why are in many parts of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: killing the beast we depend on. Birds are made for
Speaker 1: singing with that waking up, making no sounds, such destruction
Speaker 1: of ecosystems, habitats where you know, flora and fauna flourish,
Speaker 1: that every day gets hotter than the one before, running
Speaker 1: out of water. It's about to go down. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the deceptively poetic and prescient song like under like
Speaker 1: the nice little the beat and like the the like
Speaker 1: the summary vibe. There's actually like a very ominous note
Speaker 1: of yo, feels like summer. It's kind of not I
Speaker 1: wish that he likes rap more, because if he had
Speaker 1: inserted like a rap verse in the middle of that,
Speaker 1: just it's still still still the singing with just like
Speaker 1: him spitting like just you know, just to kind of
Speaker 1: just to re restate the thesis statement, but just like
Speaker 1: with like maybe twelve ours that would have been. That
Speaker 1: would have been I think I might have had to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, take a knee a little bit for a second. There. No,
Speaker 1: it's really that's pretty yeah, definitely, yeah for sure. Speaking
Speaker 1: of fire. Uh, if you don't want your house to
Speaker 1: be on fire, or your you know lands, or your
Speaker 1: you know dog, or your forests that you like to
Speaker 1: hike in, Uh, get out here in these streets, bro
Speaker 1: get involved in an organization that's you know, agitating for
Speaker 1: bold climate action because we ain't got much time. It's
Speaker 1: already going to be pretty bad. You can get your
Speaker 1: government to prevent forest fires. Yeah, only you can get
Speaker 1: your government to prevent forest fires. Yeah. And check out
Speaker 1: some more of this music um by d J. Caven
Speaker 1: and others that are using their platform to spread awareness
Speaker 1: and catalyze people take action. Now, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to talk do some wraps about the environment ourselves. So
Speaker 1: Joel my good man, can we gonna be oh h,
Speaker 1: fasten your belt, water, ride caps and the melt. Put
Speaker 1: the gap back on the shelf for you. Clap at yourself.
Speaker 1: Gap in the wealth came to frame before you paint
Speaker 1: a picture on you. If you listen all through I
Speaker 1: didn't force you. Of course you're not alone. Satellites, Obama's
Speaker 1: drones at your mama's home taping while you want a phone,
Speaker 1: you don't got a voice, then you better find a form.
Speaker 1: Don't be sitting in the brown sayings life is born
Speaker 1: and nine scater gooms and goblins. In fact, I'm skating
Speaker 1: fusing for toxins and that's it. I'm just I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I'm terrified. Hey, dope, knife with Franco and we are
Speaker 1: waiting on reparations. See you next week, winning on reparations.
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