WEBVTT - WOR on the environment 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.040 You were listening to Winning on reparations a correction of 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:12.399 my heart radio. Hey, what's happening everybody? I'm Lingle Franca 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:19.280 and I'm dope Knife are waiting on reparations, So what's good? 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.200 What's good? How are you doing? I'm good yo. The 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:29.080 aftermath of that show that I did, Yeah, call us 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:34.280 about opening for Afromen. It was it was dope. Um. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.840 I started before he got there, that makes sense. Yeah, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.839 a little late, a little late, but I think he 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.920 got there in the middle of my set. It was. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.400 It was great energy. Like by the time I was in, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.160 I did like an hour. Oh kay Afromance. That was dope. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.120 He was playing his guitar, did the hits. Um. It 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.080 was a pretty big venue in big stage, so there's 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.400 enough room that every it wasn't like all on top 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.800 of each other and ship o cool. It's gonna ask, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.240 but it's like to uh perform. Now that Delta has 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.880 kind of got everybody spooked again. Yeah, I mean just 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.400 after this weekend, a couple of spots of past you know, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.200 a mask mandate inside their U their places, which is 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.360 it's a good thing, you know. I I it was 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.520 my first time going out and like a month. So 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.200 other than that same music stuff that I've been working 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.039 on and trying to get this comic book done, you know, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.360 the same stuff, stuff like that, Are you are you doing? 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:37.000 I'm good. I'm good. Um, we're getting close. Yeah, so 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.320 the babies do on Friday. Yeah, this is this is 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:45.160 probably the last too we'll hear of me? Not we 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.680 got I'll be around. I got some episodes and some 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.360 great interviews lined up for while I'm gone. But this 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.000 is the last little joint um joint joint that Mac 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.680 and I will be doing for the next month or 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.080 so while I, uh heal up and gets into the 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.400 kiddo and whatnot. But yeah, I'm doing good, doing good. Um, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.079 I was really enthused to here. Last night we had 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.880 I guess it was two weeks ago we did that interview, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.880 but Jazz Maine about Cops City, and they voted on 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.679 that last night and actually voted to UM table it. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.880 So they're gonna have a couple more weeks of discussion. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.480 And so it's a big victory for the organizers in 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.200 Atlanta that you know, had been canvassing and holding rallies 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.760 and phone banking and getting the word out about this 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.480 crazy the cop mansion. So they're going to build in 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.280 the middle of like the last forest in Atlanta. Um 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.079 And so that was some good news I got last night. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.200 Shoutouts to Dark and Sunrise Movement a t L and 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.120 love them for pulling that off. Yeah, we got some 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.919 good feedback for that episode to where Yeah, they're doing 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.480 good work out there. It's great to talk to the 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.560 talk to Jasmine. But yeah, things have been well. And 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.120 speaking of saving the forest. Um, we had a episode 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.240 today jam Packed with the environment. It's like open it. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.600 It's like it's like fern gully in this bitch. What. So, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.320 So today we're gonna be taking a look at some 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.359 eco rap. You might ask, what's eco rap? Well, I'm 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.799 sure that there's like there's probably different names to what 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.120 we're actually referring to. But for the purposes of this show, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.400 when we say eco wrap, what we mean is hip 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.679 hop music that has like a focus on environmental advocacy 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.880 or awareness. You know, you know what I'm talking about. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.040 But we're calling eco rap for all times purposes. Um, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.079 we're gonna listen to a bunch of songs. We're gonna 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.960 dive into some artists, but you know, a week ago 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.800 when we started putting this together. Um, the u N 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.880 came out with that devastating climate change report that has 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.520 you know, pretty much most of the rational world on 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.520 edge or yeah, or has seen a lot of people 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.839 just cut their hands up, like, well, I wasn't gonna 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.640 do ship anyway, and now I'm definitely not gonna do 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:58.240 ship because everything is a lot of dum happening. Yeah, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.760 we're talking about the IPCCS report on climate change a 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.640 little bit. When he came out, and uh, it's spurned 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:09.720 headlines like the u n's terrifying climate report. The u 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.160 N Climate Change Report sounds code read for humanity. U 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:19.200 N Climate Change Report predicts dire future for New York. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.880 A hotter future is certain, according to the New York 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.440 To the New York u N Climate Report and the 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.280 last one Climate change You run report is a frightening 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.320 wake up call. So before we get to the music, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.400 we're going to dive into a bit of the UN's report, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.320 discuss what, if any immediate action is being taken, how 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.880 climate change disproportionately affects poor people, and we'll discuss whether 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.760 or not, um, the individual actually has an effect on 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.719 the outcome, or whether this is something that has to 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.560 be dealt with by governments. We'll be back with that 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:05.039 after the jump, all right. So last Monday, the U 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.279 n report came out learning the world the global warmings 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.960 on the verge of spiraling out of control. The Intergovernmental 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.760 Panel on Climate Change or i p c C, which 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.720 itself is the result of the World meteor Roger meteor 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:26.600 or Logical Meteorological Organization teaming up with United Nations Environment 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.080 Program back in Just to give you an idea of 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.039 how thorough this panel is, any report that the group 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.599 has issued had to be approved not just by the 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.600 researchers who collaborated on it, but also the government of 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.799 the member countries, which as of today numbers at about 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:46.640 a hundred. The IPCC report found that shocker humans are 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.880 unequivably to blame um from for climate change, and that 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.800 rapid action to cut greenhouse gas missions could limit some impacts, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.360 but others are now locked in so certain things that 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.240 we can't really turn back the hands of time on sort. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.200 It's just gonna happen. But there are some things, some 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.839 steps we can take to mitigate the full scale disaster 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.840 that it's possible if um if we don't you know, together. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.800 So how do you feel about this report? What did 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.320 you think when you first heard about it? I mean, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.560 I felt like drastic action on climate change was necessary 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.080 long before this, But to learn that like certain things 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 are going to happen now, like it's too late to 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:32.560 stop certain stuff from transpiring, and sort of grappling with 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.800 the both environmental and human toll of the that eventuality. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.839 It's been, it's been, it's been heavy. But then I 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.640 guess it's letting slitten slitten, it's a little flyer under 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.400 maya to sort of think about, all right, like what 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.479 we gotta do, what we gotta do to make sure 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.159 it's not any worse than that. We're talking about just 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.000 incredible amounts of devastation and loss of life then, I 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.400 mean stuff that we haven't even fully like grasp. Yeah, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.320 you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean we were 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.919 talking earlier about some of the dum ship that's going around. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.480 I you know, I in a in a sense, it's 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.320 like I don't want to be too judgmental of it, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.480 because you know, I kind of I get it in 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.160 a way. I can remember when I was like in 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.080 third grade and we used to in class would have 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.880 like teachers like okay, kids, so the hole the ozone 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.640 layer and everyone should recycle and you know, watch how 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.400 you use energy. It's like these are things, these are 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.400 things that we've been talking about, Yeah, since I was 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.920 a child, you know what I'm saying. So it's if 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.480 you just if you go through the natural progression of 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:48.280 the years, no drastic action has been taken since right 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.160 because the industry cleverly put it on us, like through 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.320 their marketing spend and like funding campaigns where we made 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:02.360 it seem like recycling and the individual were um was 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.080 the was the one that could turn this ship around. Also, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.120 I think I think it's as a as a like 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.800 uh component do you think that was like a strategy 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.440 like absolutely yeah, Like the idea of a carbon footprint 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.800 like was absolutely marketed by like fossil fuel industry is 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.080 to get people to think about their what their fault 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.160 is in in uh climate change and take the heat 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.000 off of people like BP and x ON. I think 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.600 it's also to a degree also like cultural like neoliberalism 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.839 tends to like oh individual responsibility da da daa Like 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.560 I think you put those two things together, um, and 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.199 then you get the mess that we have. The mess 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.400 that we have when people like still like oh, if 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.680 I use my usable toad or whatever, it's gonna be fine. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:54.199 Like nah, bro, that's interesting. Now that's interesting because like, 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.000 I mean, neither one of us is like a climate 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.240 scientist or anything like that. But I mean, is at 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:06.000 this point in the game, is the conclusion that individual 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.600 action is this is that cap Like at the end 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.400 of the day, I mean, I would say individual action 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.920 is kind of cap Like if you're gonna take individual action, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.680 you might as well like take to the streets and 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.800 demand that like Congress stop fossil fuel subsidious and start, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.600 you know, subsidizing solar and win to a higher degree. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.880 And like yeah, or does nationalize the I don't know, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.319 an energy and economy. If we're really gonna if we're 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.840 really gonna stop like mass devastation from happening. Um yeah, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.960 I mean like that, like what kind of individual action 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.720 we're talking about? Really? And it thinks it's mass action, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.960 which is going to require just people like clamoring for 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.839 like wide scale change at the systems level. I mean, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.520 at this point, the mere fact that this is even 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.400 up for debate, it's just wild. I mean, it's one 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.200 of those things that again makes you throw your hands up, like, yeah, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.080 what the what the fun are we gonna do? Because 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:04.920 I mean, we're literally talking about the survival of humanity, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.120 you know what I'm saying. And it's like if if 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.640 the people who have the most resources and the most 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:17.400 power can't can't be convinced to like look at look 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.760 at ship in the long term like that, I don't 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.560 I don't know what. I don't know what the hell 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.840 we're supposed to do with that um so. U UN 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.280 Secretary General Antonio Guterres described the report as a code 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.640 read for humanity. Like the headline um he said, the 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.200 alarm bells are deafening. This report must sound a death 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.680 kneel for coal and fossil fuels because they destroy our planet. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.520 In three months, the U N Corps Climate Conference in Glasgow, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.959 Scotland will try to ring much of the ambitious climate 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.440 action out of the nations of the world and the 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.840 money to go with it. Drawing them more than scientific studies, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.080 the ABCC report gives the most comprehends them in detailed 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.720 picture yet of how climate chance is altering the world. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.880 And here's some some alarming facts from the report. Per 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:11.280 Global citizen UM two. It was a hot a decade 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.720 on in reported history, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.079 every director levels in the atmosphere, and c I S 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.160 has decreased for thirty two straight years, and ice melt 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:26.240 is accelerating. The ocean absorbs of the heat by global warming, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:31.320 and of the excess carbon emissions there are ninety There 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:38.079 were tropical storms in god damn, six point seven million 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.320 people were displaced from their homes by natural disaster in 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.240 that's the one where it's like, that's where we're already at. Yeah, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.439 that's where we're already at. I mean, if you if 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:53.840 you think that the the right wingers across the world 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.959 are causing ship in their countries about immigration, now wait 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:03.160 until you have millions of people that are starving and 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.160 scared and literally can't go physically, can't go back to 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:12.280 where they came from. Exactly. Yeah, unless immediate, rapid, large 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.640 scale action is taken to reduce some emissions. The report 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.160 says the average global temperature is likely to reach across 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.720 the one point five degrees celsius two point seven degrees 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:25.520 fahrenheit forming threshold within twenty years. At that point, we 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.040 can expect to lose between seventy and our coral reefs. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.160 Mass extinctions will put many ecosystems across the world at 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.079 risk of collapse. You've seen the movie, has seen the deal. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.080 So far, the pledges to cut emissions have been made, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.240 but they ain't even close enough to what we need 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:47.840 to start reducing the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Um, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.760 So let's talk about how this impacts people. I mean, like, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.839 if I think the struggle that many have faced with 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.760 embrace of environmentalism, and like, oh, I don't give a 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.800 shit about the whales and the fucking polar parsonship, but 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.959 the human cost of that is very easy to kind 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:09.040 of shake someone with. And then particularly thinking about frontline communities, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.240 to people, the poor and people, you know, the people 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.280 that are going to be really impacted by this most 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.959 So let's turn to kind of consider some of that. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.600 So we know the ways that it affects just you know, everybody. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.400 You know, the if if it's if force are catching 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.319 on fire, that's affecting everybody's heir, is affecting homes of 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.360 you know, thousands of people. If the sea levels are rising, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.640 if you live on a coast, you're in danger. We 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:39.880 know how climate change can you know, affect just general 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.840 famine and cause droughts and things of that nature. But 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.320 you have to you have to remember that everything that 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.560 happens to two let's put it this way, everything that 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.760 happens to people who have money, that's bad, It's happening 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.080 like ten times, whereas people who don't have money, that 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.959 goes for the count tree that you're in. And then 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.040 when you look at ship on a global picture or 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.920 a global scale, so um with that, the increased frequency 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.000 of intend, the increased the increased frequency and intensity of 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.920 extreme weather events like hurricanes, wildfires, and droughts threatened the 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.800 lives of the front line communities, driving people from their 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.840 homes and jeopardizing food sources and livelihoods. All these effect 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.520 increased the likelihoods of more conflict, hunger, and poverty. People 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.080 living in poverty rely on agriculture and natural resources to survive. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.000 For these people, the effects of climate change shifting weather, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.520 limited water resources, and the increased competition for resources. Remember 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.600 your increased competition for resources are all real matters of 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.840 life and death. So climate changes turned their lives into 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.800 a desperate guessing game. This is per the Mercy Corps. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.720 According to the World Health Organization, as of the year, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.560 climate change is expected to contribute to approximately two hifty 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:03.480 thousand additional deaths per year from all nutrition, malaria, diarrhea, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:08.640 heat stress, other you know, secondary impacts of what mac 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.200 has described in the Mercy Corps um kind of breakdown 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.760 of how this is all, how does all them go? 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:19.720 How it feels like, you know, almost like yelling into 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:25.400 the wind because it's like, what again, we're not we 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.600 this is waiting on reparations, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.880 And we we definitely support taking action and stuff like that. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 So we definitely don't want to have an episode where 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.000 we're kind of like, yeah, man, this ship sucks. This 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:45.520 is bad, and that's it. So, um, I guess if 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:51.160 individual action isn't necessarily the what should be the focus, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.240 then what do you think are some things that we 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.760 the people can actually do to like convince their governments, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.080 whether it's local or a national at all, so like 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.920 take more action than they are. I mean, yeah, earlier 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.920 this summer, dozens of youth activists with the Sunrise Movement 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.920 we're arrested by Secret Service more blockading. Was it like 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.040 all ten interesces to the White House like like taking 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.120 I mean non violent direct action like that to be like, yo, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.760 this is not a fucking game. Um, it's really critical. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.960 And then you know they got backed up by um 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:31.360 um U Alexander Crossinger Cortez is there, Jamal Bowman, Krey 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.160 bush Um and so like, you know, sort of helping 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.360 give strength to the voices of these this minority we 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.840 have in Congress that are calling for things like a 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.480 green New Deal, like without a strong public mandate. Like yo, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.800 the people are like really fucking serious about this. There's 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.400 not a lot of room for them to like even 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.800 introduce us into the conversation around things like the infrastructure bill, 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.080 um et cetera. What do you think about like maybe 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.720 possibly like organizing a new voter block, because the way 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:10.720 that I see it is this Trump's every other policy 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.960 concerned or issue, you know what I mean? So what 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.760 if what if there is like some sort of mobilization 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.240 behind a voter block that is like yo, anybody talking 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:29.639 any goofy the climate change isn't real ship, you know 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.000 what I mean, It's like ensure that that person cannot 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.639 be elected to office because I don't know this this 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.359 ship seems like a code read all hands on deck, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.040 and it's gonna be really if if you if people 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.919 are feeling that doomer ship now, it's gonna be really 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.400 hard for them to snap out of it in fifteen 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.520 years if something serious isn't that Yeah, I mean, I 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.159 think part of that is is um is popular political 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.600 edification around the intersectionality of the issue of this issue, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.680 that that that disproportionately low income and black and brown 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.960 communities are going to be impacted by displacement by even 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.760 today you know, things like our currently current energy system 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:18.359 and how it's set up, like uh, crazy energy bills 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.320 and like the way that's that impacts like poor folks. 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.359 Thinking about how intersects with the interests of people in 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.879 the labor movement. If we need to transition all these jobs, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.360 we gotta get labor people on board. So they're like, Yo, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.160 we're down. Do you mean to tell me they don't 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.920 butt me up to you know, an hour if I'm 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.200 building solar panels instead of I don't know, like cracking 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.760 or whatever, Like Yo, let's get this. Yeah, And then 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.480 but then organized people into that voting box that you're describing, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.480 where like people are like yo, yeah. But ultimately, I mean, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.399 like I the question then becomes do we even have 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:55.120 time to vote in change? I think it's like, whoever 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.480 we got, we gotta put all the pressure on them. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.680 It doesn't we cannot wait until Oh we have another 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.600 press that that's gonna are better. Oh we take over 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.000 one more seat in the Senate. Like, it's not we 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.240 don't have time. I mean, there really isn't that. This 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.879 is like, uh, it's like you know the action movie 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.719 when the heroes like, we can't wait for back up, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.480 we gotta go. You know. This is one of those 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.800 sort of moments where it's like there's there's no one 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.440 coming to help if we don't if we don't do 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.959 this ship right now, you know what I'm saying. So 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:28.280 it's definitely that sort of situation. In the meantime, we've experienced, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:32.520 you know, these record breaking heats. Uh, five hundred thousand 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:37.520 acres of forests are burning in California. Last month, the 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:43.560 European Weather Agency issued extreme flood warning. German meteorologists said 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.200 that they hadn't seen anything like this in five hundred 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.600 or even a thousand years, and the result was flooding 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.720 that left more than a hundred people dead and thirteen 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.600 hundred unaccounted for. It's already killing people, or it's like 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:00.119 literally literally people already dying and stuff. Yeah, by it's 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.960 twenty one hundred if we have failed to put up 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.280 defenses or do nothing to curb our global emissions. New 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.200 research has found that coastal flooding could increase by nearly 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.120 with six million people living on the coastlines less than 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.440 ten meters or three or two feet above sea level. 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.160 Even the steady rise in sea levels means leaving whole populations, homes, 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.280 and infrastructure to the whims of the sea. UM. Under 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.960 the worst case scenario examined in the study, some seven 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.960 million people, four percent of the world's population, could be 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.480 impacted by coastal flooding. So where they moving. They're moving inland, 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.280 they're moving, you know, to the Midwest, they're moving to 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.679 America from other countries, um, And so thinking about the 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:45.080 economic impacts, the social impacts, UM, and then the physical 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.920 impacts of just like, yeah, competing for resources to make 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.600 that happen, uh, price gouging on necessities as people, as migrations, 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:58.439 as populations migrate, and just fuck, there's a lot so 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.199 couldn't re emphasizes report not just about what's coming, it's 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:05.240 about what's already here and to I guess, break out 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.320 of because this is heavy. This is a lot of 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.840 heavy ship. Right, Let's talk a little bit about what 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.800 is already in what are we already doing. So you know, 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.720 UM Infrastructure Bill just passed in the Senate going over 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.879 to the House, and it does have some it's not 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.680 super ambitious, but it does have some stuff in there 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.879 to mitigate the impacts of climate change. I say mitigate 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.880 the impacts because a lot of it is stuff like 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:39.040 dealing with um, like like creating more more resilient communities 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.920 to withstand the impact of climate change rather than reverse 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.560 the trend that is bringing the s long. But you know, 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.399 it's got eleven point six billion dollars in there for 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:56.679 construction funds for projects like blood control for example. UM, 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.960 the Forest Service could get billions of dollars to remove 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:04.000 flammable vegetation from the lands it manages, so make wildfires 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.720 so damaging. So it's like not making sure we don't 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.800 have more wildfires or more floods, it's just making sure 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.320 we can control the floods and making sure that the 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:17.320 wildfires when they raised they damage less stuff like, um 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:22.480 let the uh let's see, it's yeah, and so it's 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.520 not inmitious enough to like actually stop the trajectory that 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:31.080 work currently on it and it's under it's not understandable, 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.480 but it's just like to stop the trajectory that we're on, 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:40.760 like the world has to pause. Yeah, similarly to how 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.000 how they how the world did for two weeks during 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.960 the global pandemic when it's just like everything needs to 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.200 stop and we need to reconsider how we're doing all 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.000 this ship and not even the whole world, just like 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.399 us in Europe, Yeah, exactly, you know, because us in 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:03.639 Europe just need a fucking ship two weeks just yeah, 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.000 or not chill. We didn't do a general strike, frankly, 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.760 shut down the entire the people need to shut down 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:15.080 the entire economy until we're like yo, like climate change 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.920 or or the will just keep the economy close until 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.680 y'all do some ship. Well, this goes out to our 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.159 especially young listeners if they're any out there. You know, 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.000 it's by the time this hits and Maria are gonna 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.720 be like sixty, you know what I'm saying. So this, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.520 this is this is this is y'all's fight. Y'all need 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.200 not not that, not that y'all aren't doing it already, 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.120 but you know what I mean. We joke a lot 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.400 about with the with the kid, like like why would 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.240 you do that? Why would you have a kid right now? 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.199 But it's like, somebody's gotta lead. So I'll be I'm 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.240 gonna teach this a little bitsh how to grow corn 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.320 and shoot guns. He's gonna be leading people into the 0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:01.320 mountains to their bunker where they'll have little aggro tunnels 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.720 that you know, grow the wheats and stuff. Yeah, old 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.400 John Connor, Yeah, somebody, somebody's gotta be. Someone's gotta raise 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.320 that child into the world that's coming. You know, the 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.960 rest of these kids ain't gonna be ready. So yeah, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.880 speaking again, people ready for the world that's coming. We're 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.200