WEBVTT - Magical Rewind: Return to Halloweentown 0:00:14.650 --> 0:00:15.310 Hi, Sabrina. 0:00:15.710 --> 0:00:16.700 Hey, Will. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:21.340 How are you? I'm good. How are you? I don't 0:00:21.380 --> 0:00:24.980 know how I am. I don't know how I am today, Sabrina. 0:00:25.140 --> 0:00:27.670 I'm going to be totally honest with you. I have 0:00:27.730 --> 0:00:29.670 mixed emotions going into today's episode. 0:00:29.790 --> 0:00:30.250 I know. 0:00:30.270 --> 0:00:31.350 Lots of feels. 0:00:32.409 --> 0:00:33.830 There are a lot of feels. 0:00:34.250 --> 0:00:34.350 One. 0:00:35.890 --> 0:00:38.710 In particular is, is it kind of makes me sad 0:00:38.729 --> 0:00:42.250 when we close out like a series, a franchise, it's 0:00:42.310 --> 0:00:46.110 kind of like, dang, there's nothing else with this one. Right. 0:00:46.330 --> 0:00:46.550 Yeah. 0:00:47.970 --> 0:00:50.830 But also it's kind of good. 0:00:50.909 --> 0:00:52.830 Cause they kind of get, keep getting worse. 0:00:54.590 --> 0:00:56.200 I don't disagree. 0:00:56.270 --> 0:00:56.760 Yes. 0:00:57.260 --> 0:00:58.720 We got, we, it is time. 0:00:59.340 --> 0:01:00.260 It's like, it is. 0:01:00.380 --> 0:01:00.840 Yeah. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:08.169 It's like that. That 17 or 18-year-old dog you love. Oh, God, no, Will. 0:01:08.330 --> 0:01:09.429 Don't go there. 0:01:09.450 --> 0:01:12.060 You just want to hold on to him for the 0:01:12.140 --> 0:01:14.580 rest of your life, but you know it's probably not 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.360 a good idea. 0:01:15.540 --> 0:01:17.940 And at some point, you got to say, I love you, buddy. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.930 Anyway, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes 0:01:23.950 --> 0:01:27.270 you want to grab your friends, your PJs, and your 0:01:27.310 --> 0:01:28.590 popcorn to go back to a time when all the 0:01:28.630 --> 0:01:31.310 houses were smart, the waves, tsunamis, and I wasn't comparing 0:01:31.350 --> 0:01:32.770 anything to putting down an animal. 0:01:32.870 --> 0:01:33.690 I'm Wilford L. 0:01:34.150 --> 0:01:35.450 I'm Sabrina Bryan. 0:01:36.090 --> 0:01:39.350 Yes. Well, it's in some ways a celebratory day here 0:01:39.370 --> 0:01:42.690 at Magical Rewind because we're closing out yet another franchisee. 0:01:42.930 --> 0:01:45.130 That's how I like to pronounce it. It's franchise, but whatever. 0:01:46.060 --> 0:01:49.590 Yes, we've hit college and the fourth of four in 0:01:49.610 --> 0:01:53.170 the storied Halloween Town DCOM series. It's time for 2006's 0:01:53.450 --> 0:01:57.030 Return to Halloween Town. Okay, Sabrina, we just recapped Halloween 0:01:57.070 --> 0:02:00.070 Town High last week, and now we're rolling into our 0:02:00.130 --> 0:02:02.830 higher education. Without spoiling your thoughts in the final chapter, 0:02:02.860 --> 0:02:06.960 where does the totality of Halloween Town as itself fall 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.080 when thinking of prolific Disney franchises? Like, just compared to others, 0:02:11.139 --> 0:02:13.739 where do you put this next to, say, a Zombies 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.109 or Descendants or. 0:02:15.780 --> 0:02:17.060 A Xenon even. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.160 If I'm going to have to compare it, I'm going 0:02:20.180 --> 0:02:23.720 to have to cut this in half and compare the 0:02:23.740 --> 0:02:25.670 first two to other franchises. 0:02:25.690 --> 0:02:26.630 Sorry. 0:02:26.950 --> 0:02:27.970 It must be done. 0:02:27.990 --> 0:02:33.540 In that sense, I think if we're talking about nostalgia, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.090 it's right up there with I think Halloween Town is 0:02:37.150 --> 0:02:40.070 right up there with High School Musical and Cheetah Girls 0:02:40.210 --> 0:02:45.080 and what will eventually be all of the zombies, but 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.300 the original zombies, the original descendants. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.740 I feel like nostalgia-wise, it's right up there. It is 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.270 right there. Even when we think. 0:02:54.150 --> 0:02:58.650 About the sorcery of what we see in zombies and 0:02:58.669 --> 0:03:02.700 the descendants, I think as much as I, we will 0:03:02.740 --> 0:03:04.840 have so many words, but like this last one and 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.040 the one before, like the, the special effects actually look 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.040 very good. So I think on that aspect, it can, 0:03:11.210 --> 0:03:13.669 it can also hang story wise. 0:03:13.730 --> 0:03:16.510 We're starting to get really murky in these last two. 0:03:16.530 --> 0:03:20.150 Um, but the first two were good. I, there's a 0:03:20.230 --> 0:03:23.400 reason why people love those first two movies so much. 0:03:23.780 --> 0:03:26.360 Um, And there's a reason why people don't talk about 0:03:26.380 --> 0:03:27.480 these second two ones. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.700 Or when they do, it's, it's, I'm trying not to 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:30.920 be harsh guys. 0:03:31.220 --> 0:03:33.040 I feel like I'm now getting myself a little bit 0:03:33.060 --> 0:03:34.460 in a bad mood. I'm going to get my little 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:35.020 sparkle back. 0:03:35.180 --> 0:03:35.820 I'll be back. 0:03:36.020 --> 0:03:40.940 Give me one second. But it's just, it's, it's hard because. 0:03:40.190 --> 0:03:43.350 To me, this franchise is held on such a high 0:03:43.410 --> 0:03:46.370 pedestal being able to be compared to these other ones. 0:03:47.050 --> 0:03:49.990 And the last two, not necessarily keeping up is kind 0:03:50.030 --> 0:03:50.370 of sad. 0:03:50.570 --> 0:03:51.130 You know what I mean? 0:03:51.150 --> 0:03:55.520 I agree. Yeah, I agree. I don't have to add anything. 0:03:55.700 --> 0:03:57.600 I agree with everything you just said. The first two 0:03:57.700 --> 0:03:58.320 were great. 0:03:58.650 --> 0:04:01.150 And again, you know, we always talk about the different 0:04:01.190 --> 0:04:04.090 iterations of DCOMs, and we also have to talk about 0:04:04.110 --> 0:04:08.490 the different iterations of franchises. Because, you know, a Xenon 0:04:08.790 --> 0:04:11.980 and a Halloween Town, they kind of belong in... And 0:04:12.020 --> 0:04:14.180 in some ways, a Cheetah Girls and a High School Musical, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.860 but when you start adding musicals to it, it becomes 0:04:16.900 --> 0:04:17.420 a different thing. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.979 So with just like the early. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.839 I, you know, you put Xenon up there with, with 0:04:24.020 --> 0:04:25.930 Halloween town with the, you know, they're kind of the 0:04:26.110 --> 0:04:29.150 early franchises and for a reason they were great. Yeah. 0:04:29.950 --> 0:04:33.190 Third one, not so good. This one we'll get into. Um, 0:04:33.470 --> 0:04:36.089 but then, yeah, then you get kind of the musical franchises. 0:04:36.110 --> 0:04:38.110 You've got the cheetah girls, you've got high school musical, 0:04:38.170 --> 0:04:40.040 you've got the teen beaches, you've got that kind of 0:04:40.510 --> 0:04:44.020 camp rock. And then you go into the whole different 0:04:44.100 --> 0:04:45.580 realm where all of a sudden now they're just throwing 0:04:45.620 --> 0:04:47.359 money at the wall and now you've got descendants and 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.270 you've got, you know, Kenny Ortega and you've got these 0:04:50.650 --> 0:04:54.560 massive productions and it puts it in an entirely different category. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.900 And it's funny cause you hit on a word. Um, 0:04:56.980 --> 0:04:58.460 and I'm going to, I'm going to steal a word 0:04:58.540 --> 0:05:01.080 from my wife who she coined this years ago and 0:05:01.100 --> 0:05:07.490 I loved it, which is nostalgia. So for stuff like high, uh, 0:05:07.589 --> 0:05:10.549 high school musical, the, the, for a generation, the nostalgia 0:05:10.610 --> 0:05:13.970 is now attached for stuff like zombies and descendants. It's 0:05:14.110 --> 0:05:19.210 still kind of newish, but, So it's interesting to see 0:05:19.310 --> 0:05:22.570 the nostalgia involved, but also where those are going to 0:05:22.630 --> 0:05:25.930 rank in the next 15 years when all the seven 0:05:25.970 --> 0:05:27.830 and eight year olds, 10 year olds that are watching 0:05:28.470 --> 0:05:31.130 the new Descendants movies are how they're going to feel 0:05:31.170 --> 0:05:35.070 when they're 25. And I think some of these really 0:05:35.130 --> 0:05:37.190 hold up well. And other ones, you kind of look 0:05:37.210 --> 0:05:39.510 back on, you know, the third Xenon. We were like, really? 0:05:40.029 --> 0:05:40.479 Yeah. 0:05:40.630 --> 0:05:41.390 So some of them. 0:05:41.500 --> 0:05:44.640 You didn't like what Raven was in the. In the 0:05:44.660 --> 0:05:45.040 tropical sand. 0:05:45.180 --> 0:05:45.880 Oh, my gosh. 0:05:45.980 --> 0:05:46.500 So weird. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.039 Just shot in her backyard over a weekend. 0:05:50.100 --> 0:05:50.800 Yeah, so. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.969 They just flopped a green blanket over her fence. 0:05:54.089 --> 0:05:56.930 Yeah, pretty much. Started going. Threw some money at her 0:05:56.970 --> 0:06:01.010 and shot a couple scenes. Okay, so, well, let's get 0:06:01.050 --> 0:06:03.349 into this one here. That's what we have to do. So, 0:06:03.370 --> 0:06:08.480 this conclusion to the series is what we are contractually 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:09.680 obligated to do. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:09.880 Yes. 0:06:10.020 --> 0:06:13.970 Yes. This conclusion to the series, which was first titled 0:06:14.010 --> 0:06:18.529 Halloween Town 4, which you, originally aired on October 20th, 2006. 0:06:18.529 --> 0:06:21.440 No surprise that it was part of their Halloween programming. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.840 And this did mark the first time ever that a 0:06:23.860 --> 0:06:26.640 Disney Channel original movie produced a fourth movie. This is 0:06:26.660 --> 0:06:29.380 the first four. Now, you might also remember this film 0:06:29.620 --> 0:06:33.320 is the only one not to star Kimberly J. Brown 0:06:33.380 --> 0:06:35.490 as Marnie, who led the way in the original three movies. 0:06:35.930 --> 0:06:39.230 She was just straight up replaced here. And in interviews since, 0:06:39.350 --> 0:06:42.460 producer Sherry Singer has said that replacing Brown was not 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.600 something they wanted to do, but they couldn't come to 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.200 terms with the actress on a deal, and so, well, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.800 there's no business like show business. They moved on without her. Now, reportedly, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.760 her team asked for a list of quote-unquote unusual perks, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.979 like allowing her mom to try and write the movie's storyline, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.740 to become a producer, and demanding a ridiculous raise in salary, but, yeah, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.020 it sounds like stuff. Brown, on the other hand, has 0:07:04.060 --> 0:07:06.080 said that she was available and ready to go, but 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.870 blames Disney for deciding to go in a completely different direction. 0:07:09.230 --> 0:07:12.460 Fun story here. Last night, My wife and I, my 0:07:12.500 --> 0:07:15.200 brother and sister-in-law, we got invited by a friend of 0:07:15.220 --> 0:07:18.190 the pod, Adam Wiley, to go to the Magic Castle. 0:07:18.810 --> 0:07:20.730 And we went and we were talking to his wife there. 0:07:20.930 --> 0:07:22.250 And I said, well, I've got to leave early. I've 0:07:22.270 --> 0:07:25.270 got to finish watching my movie for tomorrow. And she said, 0:07:25.310 --> 0:07:27.630 what are you watching? I said, oh, Return to Halloween Town. 0:07:27.650 --> 0:07:31.290 And she's like, even as a kid, the fact that 0:07:31.350 --> 0:07:33.770 they thought we weren't going to notice that there was 0:07:33.850 --> 0:07:37.330 just another Marnie infuriates me to this day. Like she 0:07:37.380 --> 0:07:38.150 was getting heated. 0:07:38.790 --> 0:07:41.270 In the magic castle. She's like, what was I crazy? 0:07:41.550 --> 0:07:43.440 Come on. I'm even as a kid, I knew what 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.700 you were doing. I didn't like, so it was this 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.100 movie mattered to kids in a way where they did 0:07:48.140 --> 0:07:51.560 not like that. I think when you're. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:57.950 So invested, it's just, and it's, and again, it's not like, 0:07:59.490 --> 0:08:00.550 They did one and then. 0:08:00.470 --> 0:08:02.550 The second one, she was gone. It's like, she's done 0:08:02.690 --> 0:08:03.550 three of these. 0:08:03.590 --> 0:08:04.370 She's Marnie. 0:08:04.390 --> 0:08:06.290 She is Marnie. No one else is Marnie. 0:08:06.310 --> 0:08:07.150 She's Marnie, yes. 0:08:07.330 --> 0:08:11.650 And to feel like, I think the audience feels duped. 0:08:11.770 --> 0:08:13.810 They feel like you gypped. 0:08:13.620 --> 0:08:14.630 Them from something. 0:08:14.650 --> 0:08:18.560 And it's hard to think that you couldn't come to 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.080 an agreement of something. 0:08:20.460 --> 0:08:22.940 You know what I mean? But okay, let's say... It's 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:23.900 hard to believe. 0:08:23.980 --> 0:08:24.340 It really is. 0:08:24.380 --> 0:08:27.060 Worst case scenario, you can't come to an agreement. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.380 Okay? You can't... Disney's on one... She's probably, again, we've 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.300 all been in this business. We know this business. You're 0:08:34.340 --> 0:08:36.980 now doing the fourth movie in the franchise. You're older. 0:08:37.460 --> 0:08:41.520 You've established the franchise. Certain companies don't like to spend 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.439 a ton of money on their actors, but I want 0:08:43.460 --> 0:08:45.340 a little bit more here. Maybe she was asking for 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.560 some weird stuff, but maybe she was asking, whatever it is. 0:08:48.420 --> 0:08:49.740 Let's say the deal doesn't work out. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:50.339 Fine. 0:08:50.940 --> 0:08:54.360 You rewrite the script. She's Marnie's cousin. Marnie's the one 0:08:54.420 --> 0:08:57.050 traveling with her sister somewhere. And you bring in a 0:08:57.110 --> 0:08:59.309 cousin character so you're not making people like, no, that's 0:08:59.330 --> 0:09:03.010 just Marnie now. You just can't do that to your audience. 0:09:03.410 --> 0:09:07.340 One of the things that audiences can't stand, especially kids, 0:09:07.780 --> 0:09:09.200 is being treated like they're stupid. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:09.939 They're stupid. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:10.580 Exactly. 0:09:10.780 --> 0:09:13.859 And one of the things that this does is instantly 0:09:13.980 --> 0:09:16.220 treats the audience like you're stupid. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.730 Here, this is just Marnie now. Deal with it. 0:09:18.820 --> 0:09:19.340 This is Marnie. 0:09:19.710 --> 0:09:22.459 Can I tell you that I am so not looking 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.280 forward to the day when Rose starts figuring out about 0:09:25.340 --> 0:09:29.790 all the lies I've been doing? Like when she looks 0:09:29.850 --> 0:09:32.210 at me and goes, you've been lying. 0:09:31.990 --> 0:09:34.010 To me this whole time. About what? 0:09:34.050 --> 0:09:34.530 About this. 0:09:36.420 --> 0:09:40.340 Will, I've got a baby fairy door on her, above 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:41.190 her door now. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:41.940 Oh, I get what you're saying. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.880 Because that's where the tooth fairy is going to come, right? 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.140 Yeah. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.370 Let me tell you, that door fell down and broke 0:09:46.830 --> 0:09:49.989 and I had to come up with a hole. It's 0:09:50.070 --> 0:09:51.390 like the lies. 0:09:51.690 --> 0:09:53.730 Now that I'm doing Elf, I'm not just lying to 0:09:53.750 --> 0:09:56.969 her about one day in December. I'm lying to her 0:09:57.270 --> 0:09:58.590 the whole month. 0:09:58.929 --> 0:09:59.989 Kids deserve to be lied to. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.200 To. 0:10:00.420 --> 0:10:00.920 Everybody does. 0:10:00.940 --> 0:10:03.660 But at some point, when she finds out and she's 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:04.800 going to be like, what, do you think I'm stupid? 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:05.980 Do you think I'm just going to believe it forever? 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:06.559 No, but that's different. 0:10:06.580 --> 0:10:08.000 You're not treating her like she's stupid. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:08.620 You are. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.700 I'm trying to create magic here. 0:10:10.740 --> 0:10:13.750 Magic, and you're also protecting an innocence in her childhood. 0:10:13.870 --> 0:10:16.050 This is just, we're going to slip in a new 0:10:16.070 --> 0:10:17.850 person and you better just deal with it. This is just. 0:10:18.010 --> 0:10:20.740 And so this is, This is unfair to your audience. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.440 And again, happens with actors. We can't make a deal. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.520 We can't work it out. One scene at the beginning, well, 0:10:29.020 --> 0:10:32.870 I won't have empty nest syndrome anyway. She's talking to grandma. Hey, 0:10:33.090 --> 0:10:36.170 where's Marnie? Oh, she's off with whoever. I can't talk 0:10:36.210 --> 0:10:39.110 to her right now. But don't forget that her cousin 0:10:39.150 --> 0:10:40.970 is coming to stop by. Oh, great. I won't have 0:10:41.050 --> 0:10:43.160 empty nest syndrome. She's there half a day and she 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.140 gets accepted to witch you. And she's like, are you kidding? 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.939 I don't even get to see. And it's the same 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:47.640 exact story. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.480 Same exact story. 0:10:48.500 --> 0:10:51.260 She's still a Cromwell. She still has the magical blood. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.110 She can still do everything. But the idea that all 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.050 of a sudden it's just, no, this is now Marnie. 0:10:56.429 --> 0:10:59.590 You've already have your audience like, all right, you're dumb. 0:10:59.770 --> 0:11:03.170 Now just watch the movie. Right. So yeah, that was annoying. Plus, 0:11:03.710 --> 0:11:05.720 and you know me with magic. The magic in this 0:11:05.780 --> 0:11:09.520 movie is so muddled. What is good magic? What's bad magic? Yes. 0:11:10.150 --> 0:11:10.730 I think it looks good. 0:11:10.750 --> 0:11:12.750 What are the rules? Oh, it looks great. 0:11:12.890 --> 0:11:15.560 If we can find some positivity, it looks great. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.280 There's no problem with the special effects in this movie. No. 0:11:19.540 --> 0:11:22.000 It's by far the best looking movie of the four. 0:11:22.300 --> 0:11:24.880 For me to then look at what we're doing today 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.030 and go, this was in 2006? 0:11:28.030 --> 0:11:28.170 Yep. 0:11:28.590 --> 0:11:32.010 This looks better than the first dragon we saw in Descendants. 0:11:32.230 --> 0:11:32.370 Yep. 0:11:32.550 --> 0:11:33.290 I couldn't agree with you more. 0:11:33.309 --> 0:11:34.210 And that was years later. 0:11:34.230 --> 0:11:35.030 It looks great. 0:11:35.350 --> 0:11:35.850 This looks great. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.450 It looks great. It's the best looking movie of before. 0:11:38.470 --> 0:11:41.330 Yes, I was confused on, okay. 0:11:41.970 --> 0:11:43.590 So they're using magic, but they're not. 0:11:43.630 --> 0:11:44.990 And then we'll get into it. All right, we'll get 0:11:45.050 --> 0:11:45.490 into it. 0:11:45.790 --> 0:11:45.969 Yeah. 0:11:45.990 --> 0:11:47.990 This one I feel is going to unfortunately take us 0:11:48.050 --> 0:11:50.370 longer because there's just so many questions. 0:11:50.410 --> 0:11:53.220 I know, I know. But anyway, two things we do 0:11:53.260 --> 0:11:56.859 know for sure. Production did pursue two different script ideas. 0:11:57.059 --> 0:11:59.300 The one we eventually saw on the screen and another, 0:11:59.340 --> 0:12:01.979 which was a musical with songs written by actor and 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.760 composer Jim Wise and... This movie was shot in, that's 0:12:06.780 --> 0:12:09.860 my horrible horn sound, the DCOM capital of the world, 0:12:10.059 --> 0:12:13.120 Salt Lake City, Utah. Now, they may not have found 0:12:13.140 --> 0:12:15.140 common ground with Brown, but there were three actors who 0:12:15.220 --> 0:12:16.880 did appear in all four movies, and that group was, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.630 of course, Debbie Reynolds, Judith Hogue, and Joey Zimmerman. In 0:12:20.690 --> 0:12:22.750 a shock to absolutely no one, this movie did well 0:12:22.770 --> 0:12:25.470 for Disney, scoring 7.5 million viewers for the premiere and 0:12:25.530 --> 0:12:28.090 showing that although there were no future plans for the IP, 0:12:28.530 --> 0:12:29.860 it was still very important. 0:12:30.340 --> 0:12:32.460 It was actually the most watched basic. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.380 Cable program of the day and at the time of 0:12:34.420 --> 0:12:37.760 its airing became the fourth highest rated DCOM of all time. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.660 It was also nominated for a Creative Arts Emmy in 0:12:40.700 --> 0:12:43.140 the field of Outstanding Art Direction for a miniseries or movie, 0:12:43.220 --> 0:12:46.339 and I can totally see why. Now, for Halloween Town High, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.600 there are some timeline discrepancies. But here we know that 0:12:50.620 --> 0:12:54.500 this movie takes place exactly one year after the last film. 0:12:55.580 --> 0:12:57.940 This is when kids grow up a little bit. They 0:12:57.980 --> 0:13:01.250 change to the point of being an entirely different person. Now, 0:13:01.290 --> 0:13:03.090 we talked a little bit about this last week, but 0:13:03.110 --> 0:13:05.700 this sure feels like a possible avenue for the studio 0:13:05.740 --> 0:13:10.199 to take when looking to resurrect a property from the past. Now, producer, singer, 0:13:10.540 --> 0:13:13.959 and Kimberly J. Brown, my buddy, expressed interest, but no 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.960 words as of yet when it comes to Halloween Town 5, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.780 when all of a sudden Marnie's back. That's what it 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:23.460 should be called, Halloween Town 5, Marnie's back. Okay, Sabrina, again, 0:13:23.500 --> 0:13:26.000 no spoilers, but can you say without a doubt which 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.190 Halloween Town movie so far is your favorite? Let's put 0:13:29.230 --> 0:13:31.219 it this way. Which one did you like better, Halloween 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:31.609 Town 1 or 2? 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:31.839 I know. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.800 That's, I think, the question we got to ask. 0:13:36.179 --> 0:13:40.480 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 0:13:40.500 --> 0:13:41.260 Wow. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:42.120 It's too hard. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.970 I really think they're equally very, very good. I feel 0:13:48.010 --> 0:13:53.050 like I remember more of the storyline with Calabar's Revenge. 0:13:53.670 --> 0:13:54.089 Interesting. 0:13:54.110 --> 0:13:55.730 I have exactly the opposite. 0:13:55.990 --> 0:13:56.290 Really? 0:13:56.309 --> 0:13:57.690 I remember more of the first one. You remember more 0:13:57.710 --> 0:13:58.070 of the first one. 0:13:58.090 --> 0:13:59.270 I agree with you, by the way. I think they're 0:13:59.309 --> 0:13:59.690 both great. 0:13:59.730 --> 0:14:00.350 There's just, yeah. 0:14:00.830 --> 0:14:03.050 I feel like the first one, it's like, I would 0:14:03.250 --> 0:14:06.930 assume if I chose the first one, it'd be more 0:14:06.970 --> 0:14:08.570 so like nostalgia because that's the one that. 0:14:08.490 --> 0:14:09.150 I actually watched. 0:14:09.429 --> 0:14:11.210 Yeah, Calabar's was great. 0:14:11.610 --> 0:14:12.970 But the Calabar's was good. 0:14:13.130 --> 0:14:13.390 Yeah. 0:14:13.610 --> 0:14:14.490 Yeah. No, I agree. 0:14:14.630 --> 0:14:14.890 I agree. 0:14:14.910 --> 0:14:15.189 You know? 0:14:15.210 --> 0:14:17.270 All right. Well, all of you out there can make 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.430 up your own minds right now because all the Halloween 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.680 Town movies are available to stream on Disney Plus. Watch 0:14:22.700 --> 0:14:25.880 them consecutively or one by one before or after our recap. 0:14:25.900 --> 0:14:29.600 That's completely your prerogative. Everybody's talking all this stuff about you. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.120 Why don't they just let you live? You don't need permission. 0:14:32.180 --> 0:14:35.480 Make your own decisions. That's your prerogative. Huh? 0:14:35.740 --> 0:14:36.540 Well, if you know, you know. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.340 So grab your amulet and wish for whatever you want. 0:14:39.980 --> 0:14:41.600 That's the right way to put it, seeing as the 0:14:41.660 --> 0:14:43.850 amulet has no actual rules attached to it. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:49.230 Here is the synopsis. Marnie, I'm going to pause every 0:14:49.250 --> 0:14:49.870 time I say that. 0:14:51.270 --> 0:14:58.460 The new Marnie. New Marnie. New Marnie. Marnie heads off 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.020 to college, hoping to learn more about magic, but discovers 0:15:01.060 --> 0:15:03.440 the school has banned students from using it. As she 0:15:03.500 --> 0:15:05.900 uncovers a mystery involving her family's past and a powerful 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.220 magical artifact, she must also stop a sinister group from 0:15:09.260 --> 0:15:12.680 taking overall control of Halloween Town. All right, now we 0:15:12.730 --> 0:15:14.470 can talk about it. I think we already have. What 0:15:14.490 --> 0:15:15.370 did you think of this movie? 0:15:17.110 --> 0:15:20.470 This was not my favorite. And I really. 0:15:21.330 --> 0:15:21.730 hat. 0:15:21.570 --> 0:15:24.150 Was in a mindset. Like I knew I was getting 0:15:24.190 --> 0:15:27.360 a new, a new Marnie. I was ready for it. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.840 And I was trying so hard to just kind of 0:15:30.420 --> 0:15:33.420 like give it the best shot it could. And it's still, 0:15:33.740 --> 0:15:37.320 there was two, again, the costuming when there was time, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.710 like the magic costuming, the parts of it and stuff 0:15:39.730 --> 0:15:39.950 like that. 0:15:40.190 --> 0:15:42.010 There were things like that, that I did like, but 0:15:42.650 --> 0:15:43.530 it was too muddled. 0:15:43.590 --> 0:15:46.670 There was absolutely zero rules that were ever set in 0:15:46.730 --> 0:15:49.970 place and They were moving so fast as if we 0:15:50.070 --> 0:15:52.740 should know the rules, too, which was hard for me. 0:15:53.180 --> 0:15:54.360 And now it's a rule of three. 0:15:54.460 --> 0:15:55.440 Now we're doing that now. 0:15:55.540 --> 0:15:56.800 Exactly. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.920 And the only way we were figuring it out, which, again, 0:15:58.980 --> 0:16:01.140 I think is a bad move when you feel when 0:16:01.180 --> 0:16:03.780 you feel stupid as like a like an audience, like 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.520 is you basically telling me a new rule of three. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.060 And it's like there's a pause and it's like, take note. 0:16:09.580 --> 0:16:10.320 You know what I mean? 0:16:10.380 --> 0:16:12.640 I don't like I don't like that when they do 0:16:12.710 --> 0:16:16.270 things like that. So this one just kind of, it 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.200 just over and over again, by the last 20 minutes 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.640 of it, I was ready for it to just be like. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.460 Done and like, okay, how are we doing it? And 0:16:24.500 --> 0:16:29.200 then the end was even more just like, okay, so 0:16:29.220 --> 0:16:32.680 we're adding an Aladdin factor. Okay. 0:16:33.420 --> 0:16:33.780 Okay. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.980 Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I agree with you 100%. Did 0:16:39.100 --> 0:16:39.760 you love it? 0:16:40.740 --> 0:16:41.710 No, I did not love it. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.180 And again, I want to. 0:16:43.140 --> 0:16:44.700 Make this very, very clear. 0:16:44.980 --> 0:16:48.120 Sarah Paxton took over for Kim Brown, and we'll get 0:16:48.300 --> 0:16:49.230 into all that as well. 0:16:49.830 --> 0:16:51.030 I blame Sarah Paxton. 0:16:51.430 --> 0:16:54.270 Not at all. No. This is a young actress who 0:16:54.310 --> 0:16:57.570 got a wonderful opportunity to step into a giant franchise. 0:16:57.950 --> 0:17:02.310 She had nothing whatsoever to do with the direction Disney 0:17:02.410 --> 0:17:06.199 decided to take or... you know, not moving on with Kimberly. 0:17:06.220 --> 0:17:10.070 This was a wonderful young actress who stepped into the role. 0:17:10.140 --> 0:17:14.410 So nothing to do with that. No. Other than that, you're, 0:17:14.590 --> 0:17:16.550 they really treated the audience like they were dumb by 0:17:16.590 --> 0:17:18.649 just recasting her again, make her a cousin. You can 0:17:18.670 --> 0:17:21.630 do exactly the same thing, make her a cousin. And 0:17:21.710 --> 0:17:25.690 so that the story makes zero sense. 0:17:26.670 --> 0:17:26.790 Yeah. 0:17:26.910 --> 0:17:29.100 I mean, to the point where they start the story 0:17:29.130 --> 0:17:31.720 where it's like, we've got to trick her into using her, 0:17:31.980 --> 0:17:34.750 her magic to open the box. And then a scene later, like, 0:17:35.130 --> 0:17:36.540 let's just bring her into a room with a box 0:17:36.580 --> 0:17:39.160 and just tell her to open the box. Yeah. It's like, well, 0:17:39.180 --> 0:17:42.420 then why didn't you start with that? Hey, welcome to 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.580 your first day at school. By the way, open this box. Like, 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:48.850 what the hell was the point of the rest of it? 0:17:49.450 --> 0:17:51.490 Yeah, it just... They literally. 0:17:51.130 --> 0:17:53.369 Bring her into a room and hold the box in 0:17:53.390 --> 0:17:57.330 front of her. And the whole aspect. 0:17:56.250 --> 0:17:57.950 With the brother, like. 0:17:57.970 --> 0:17:59.340 No, becoming the daughter. 0:17:59.420 --> 0:18:03.140 And then also... Oh, by the way, brother also has magic. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.869 We've watched three movies without this kid having magic. 0:18:06.910 --> 0:18:08.730 Well, didn't he say he had a little bit that 0:18:08.770 --> 0:18:09.270 he had to use? 0:18:09.290 --> 0:18:11.020 That's how he was able to get to Halloween Town. 0:18:13.590 --> 0:18:14.609 But he was never trained. 0:18:14.650 --> 0:18:16.869 But then in the third movie, it needs to be 0:18:16.890 --> 0:18:17.570 a progression. 0:18:17.750 --> 0:18:19.030 Oh, I agree. He's not just all of a sudden. 0:18:19.050 --> 0:18:19.390 I have a theory. 0:18:19.609 --> 0:18:21.730 I have a theory we'll get into. I'm a wizard now. 0:18:21.770 --> 0:18:23.920 And you're like, what? No, you're not. 0:18:23.940 --> 0:18:24.429 No, you're not. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:25.040 No, you're not. 0:18:25.060 --> 0:18:25.580 I have a theory. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:26.800 I have a theory we're going to get into. I 0:18:26.980 --> 0:18:28.679 have a theory we'll get into at the end. And 0:18:28.740 --> 0:18:31.399 I think I know what they were planning. Oh, yes. 0:18:31.700 --> 0:18:34.429 But, you know, they wanted to move on with him. 0:18:34.970 --> 0:18:35.170 Right. 0:18:35.660 --> 0:18:36.760 I mean, he was going to be the next face 0:18:36.780 --> 0:18:37.100 of the franchise. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.280 However, I find it. 0:18:38.420 --> 0:18:41.330 I mean, Kimberly Brown now is all over her Instagram 0:18:41.369 --> 0:18:45.209 looking young as hell. Him, like, if they were going 0:18:45.230 --> 0:18:47.429 to take on with him, why couldn't they bring her 0:18:47.470 --> 0:18:50.750 back saying anything, saying that she was looking too old? 0:18:51.270 --> 0:18:52.330 That was the other thing. 0:18:52.350 --> 0:18:52.970 I heard that, too. 0:18:52.990 --> 0:18:53.950 They were looking too old. 0:18:54.010 --> 0:18:56.869 And there's all these rumors about. And the truth is 0:18:56.970 --> 0:19:00.210 always in the middle. So it was a strange. Okay. Anyway. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.400 This was directed by David Jackson, a director we have, 0:19:03.420 --> 0:19:05.090 of course, featured in the past for his work on 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.429 Buffalo Dreams, which we both liked. A memorable decom from 0:19:07.470 --> 0:19:10.970 our past. He also worked on TV shows like Miami Vice. Oh, God. 0:19:11.050 --> 0:19:14.430 Miami Vice. Go watch the Miami Vice scene where they're 0:19:14.450 --> 0:19:15.810 going to a shootout where they think they're going to 0:19:15.830 --> 0:19:18.929 die and they're driving in the Ferrari. And it's Phil Collins. 0:19:18.990 --> 0:19:19.889 Is it in the air of the night? 0:19:19.910 --> 0:19:20.450 Whatever's playing. 0:19:20.690 --> 0:19:21.250 Oh, it's so good. 0:19:21.950 --> 0:19:24.570 That was his first directing gig. 0:19:24.670 --> 0:19:25.310 Yeah, it was Miami Vice. 0:19:25.330 --> 0:19:25.629 Wow. 0:19:25.850 --> 0:19:30.790 Great show. 21 Jump Street. Great show. One Tree Hill, Bridges, 0:19:30.890 --> 0:19:33.120 and the Desert Storm supporting music video for the song 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.420 Voices That Care. And like we mentioned, the big talking 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.419 point here is the replacement of Kimberly J. Brown. Now 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.800 playing Marnie Piper is Sarah Paxton, a child star that 0:19:41.820 --> 0:19:44.310 we saw in the DCOM Hounded, but she also appeared 0:19:44.450 --> 0:19:47.409 on Lizzie McGuire, Will & Grace, This Is Us, and 0:19:47.430 --> 0:19:50.600 in the movie Aquamarine. Most recently, she starred in Ty 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:55.680 West's The Innkeepers and three other horror movies, Barbarian, Weapons, 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.239 and Resident Evil, all directed by her husband, the director 0:19:59.270 --> 0:19:59.900 of horror at the. 0:19:59.830 --> 0:20:01.010 Moment, Zach Greggers. 0:20:01.950 --> 0:20:04.990 And yes, Debbie Reynolds, co-owner of the Dabney Reynolds Chair, 0:20:05.050 --> 0:20:07.960 completes the cycle of four films as Agatha Cromwell. the 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.380 actor who I believe has to be the biggest star 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.260 to ever appear in a DCOM, certainly in four in 0:20:13.300 --> 0:20:18.790 a series. She had a 70-year Hollywood career, which included movies, TV, cabaret, dance, 0:20:18.900 --> 0:20:22.730 an Oscar nomination, an Emmy nomination, a Tony nomination, and many, 0:20:22.950 --> 0:20:26.290 many more accolades, including her own Las Vegas casino. We 0:20:26.310 --> 0:20:29.429 talked about this last week. Reynolds unfortunately died in 2016 0:20:29.430 --> 0:20:31.470 at the age of 84, one day after the death 0:20:31.510 --> 0:20:34.010 of her daughter, Carrie Fisher, better known as Princess Leia. 0:20:35.010 --> 0:20:38.010 Judith Hogue, also part of the Four Timers Club, returns 0:20:38.050 --> 0:20:40.280 as Gwen Piper. You've seen her in movies like Armageddon 0:20:40.300 --> 0:20:42.800 and Cadillac Man, but she's always going to be April 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.420 O'Neil to me in the 1990s cinematic version of Teenage 0:20:46.460 --> 0:20:49.600 Mutant Ninja Turtles. Heroes in a half shell, turtle power. 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.359 In his second Halloween Town movie, it is young Lucas 0:20:53.420 --> 0:20:57.119 Graybiel as Ethan. Lucas would later speed to Disney fame 0:20:57.260 --> 0:21:00.160 as Ryan Evans. I'm kidding. It's Evans in the high 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.370 school musical movies. And has since focused on voice acting 0:21:03.410 --> 0:21:06.310 in shows like Spirit Rangers, Family Guy, and Submarine Jim, 0:21:06.350 --> 0:21:08.090 which I don't know what Submarine Jim is, but oh 0:21:08.130 --> 0:21:10.350 my God, I hope it's an entire show about sandwiches. 0:21:12.330 --> 0:21:15.470 Joey Zimmerman is another four-timer, so he's back as Dylan Piper. 0:21:15.530 --> 0:21:18.820 He's also appeared on Seventh Heaven, Lizzie McGuire, Felicity, and Becker. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.360 And an old pal of mine, Keone Young, is Silas Sinister. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.500 Young did appear in an episode of Boy Meets World 0:21:24.580 --> 0:21:27.020 and guested on Pod Meets World and played Dr. Wu 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:27.680 on Deadwood. 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:29.760 Oh my God, he was so good on that show. 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:31.810 He is a voice acting legend. 0:21:31.990 --> 0:21:34.609 He is Kaz Hirata from Hi Hi Puffy Amy Yumi. 0:21:34.630 --> 0:21:36.109 It was, I think, the name of the show. 0:21:36.550 --> 0:21:39.439 And has worked on projects like Samurai Jack, Kung Fu Panda, 0:21:39.540 --> 0:21:41.280 and Spider-Man 3, the video game. 0:21:41.580 --> 0:21:43.760 So please, a shout out, everybody, to Keone. 0:21:43.859 --> 0:21:47.240 He is a phenomenal actor. But did he help when 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.320 it came to the most important aspect of any film 0:21:49.420 --> 0:21:50.800 ever created in the history of Hollywood? 0:21:50.859 --> 0:21:52.860 And that, of course, is the runtime. 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.660 You can hire the best director, engage the smartest writers, 0:21:55.780 --> 0:21:58.240 cast the most recognizable actors and one new actor in 0:21:58.290 --> 0:22:00.050 a role that you're supposed to recognize but don't realize 0:22:00.070 --> 0:22:02.209 that they changed her. It won't mean a thing for 0:22:02.250 --> 0:22:05.909 you if some godforsaken reason, someone makes it longer than 0:22:05.910 --> 0:22:07.730 90 minutes. We know what it takes to make a 0:22:07.750 --> 0:22:09.929 classic movie, and that's an hour and a half to 0:22:09.970 --> 0:22:13.629 make it work. Anything more, get lost. Anything less, get lost. 0:22:13.750 --> 0:22:15.760 But you can eventually find your way home again. It 0:22:15.820 --> 0:22:18.720 is the lesser of two evils. And so, the final 0:22:18.740 --> 0:22:23.280 Halloween Town movie clocks in at 87 minutes. All right. 0:22:23.580 --> 0:22:25.919 We're three off. Not ideal, but it's livable. If any 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.379 filmmakers are listening, make your movie, not just for us, 0:22:28.460 --> 0:22:30.580 but for the generations to come. They're depending on you. 0:22:31.060 --> 0:22:35.219 Don't mess it up. 87 minutes. When it comes to writers, 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.610 we've got the team of Max Ensko and Annie DeYoung, 0:22:38.690 --> 0:22:41.409 whose names appear on scripts for Johnny Tsunami 2, Prince's 0:22:41.450 --> 0:22:43.010 Protection Program, and Starstruck. 0:22:43.390 --> 0:22:44.010 Love to speak to them. 0:22:44.470 --> 0:22:47.430 And more recently, the 2012 DCOM Girl vs. 0:22:47.470 --> 0:22:47.840 Monster. 0:22:47.970 --> 0:22:50.220 And of course, Juliette Gigolo, who wrote the TV movie 0:22:50.300 --> 0:22:54.220 Noah and a bunch of Christmas movies since 2018. And now, 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.399 the Dominion is keeping an eye on us and all 0:22:56.420 --> 0:22:59.120 the citizens need our help. So let's return to Halloween 0:22:59.140 --> 0:23:00.760 Town with a completely different face. 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:02.560 And name. 0:23:02.580 --> 0:23:05.040 You're still Marnie. Anyway, I'm going to keep harping on this. 0:23:05.180 --> 0:23:05.540 I'm sorry. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:07.580 I can't get over it. I can't get over it. 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.379 I know I should get over it. People are like, 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:09.800 get over it. 0:23:10.869 --> 0:23:14.449 I can't. It would be the equivalent right now. If 0:23:14.609 --> 0:23:16.810 we came on this podcast in the morning and Ryder 0:23:16.850 --> 0:23:18.870 Strong was sitting in this seat with my name underneath 0:23:18.950 --> 0:23:20.909 and he just said my name and went on with 0:23:20.930 --> 0:23:24.739 the podcast and no one was supposed to notice. And 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:26.800 everyone's like, that's Ryder. And I'm like, no, that's Will. 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.560 If you squint one eye and cover the other one 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.490 and then punch yourself in the face. 0:23:33.150 --> 0:23:34.109 Oh, man. 0:23:34.250 --> 0:23:43.190 It's Marnie. The movie opens on a map of Halloween 0:23:43.230 --> 0:23:46.350 Town accompanied by a booming voiceover with a spooky reading 0:23:46.390 --> 0:23:49.750 from the prophecy. As the translucent head of character actor 0:23:50.150 --> 0:23:52.830 Keone Young appears, he says, At the close of. 0:23:52.790 --> 0:23:55.490 The first millennium and the rise of the Halloween moon, 0:23:56.010 --> 0:23:59.770 a Cromwell of great power will embrace the gift. Marnie 0:23:59.810 --> 0:24:02.730 Piper is that Cromwell of the prophecy and the one 0:24:02.850 --> 0:24:05.359 we have waited for. And then we get a dramatic 0:24:05.390 --> 0:24:08.230 sting and now it is time to return to Halloween Town. 0:24:08.300 --> 0:24:10.940 By the way, I cannot do Keone Young's voice any justice. 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:12.379 His voice is awesome. 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.440 It is great, but I do love your rendition. 0:24:16.460 --> 0:24:18.500 I know, but oh no, he's the man with that stuff. 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.030 Now at an unassuming suburban home, 18-year-old Marnie Piper, kind of, 0:24:23.150 --> 0:24:24.930 but not the Marnie we're used to, a new Marnie, 0:24:25.490 --> 0:24:26.790 is using her magic to clean out. 0:24:26.710 --> 0:24:28.130 The closet and pack for college. 0:24:28.210 --> 0:24:32.130 Could have just been a cousin. Downstairs, Marnie finds her mom, Gwen, 0:24:32.250 --> 0:24:34.300 talking to the pot of soup again. Marnie attempts to 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.760 magically send her box of discarded clothes to the garage, 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.179 but her mom yells at her, no unnecessary use of magic. 0:24:39.700 --> 0:24:42.020 Marnie doesn't get it. She had said no magic around 0:24:42.130 --> 0:24:45.660 Sophie and her brother Dylan reminds her Sophie isn't there. Remember, 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.300 she had three lines in the last movie. We forgot 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.380 she was even a sister. She's now 42 with kids 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.500 of her own and they're like, she's out. She's with 0:24:52.540 --> 0:24:56.510 Grandma Aggie learning magic in another dimension. Oh, how convenient. 0:24:57.290 --> 0:24:59.410 The soup pot rings. And even though Marnie's mom tries 0:24:59.450 --> 0:25:01.830 to hide it, we realize she's been using magic herself. 0:25:01.970 --> 0:25:04.350 Marnie opens the pot to find Grandma Aggie's dismembered head. 0:25:04.830 --> 0:25:06.880 This was a phone call to another dimension. A soup 0:25:06.890 --> 0:25:09.980 phone call. While cutting in and out, Aggie warns the 0:25:10.020 --> 0:25:11.840 family she might not be able to contact them for 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.850 a while, but Sophie's training is coming along, though her 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.210 time travel needs work. And as she fades out, Aggie 0:25:18.330 --> 0:25:20.990 accidentally spoils some news by congratulating Marnie. 0:25:24.890 --> 0:25:28.369 This is why you stay away from time travel. 0:25:29.750 --> 0:25:31.830 Why wouldn't Aggie have just gone back and taken the 0:25:31.850 --> 0:25:33.909 necklace from her younger self and hidden it in the 0:25:33.930 --> 0:25:35.310 future with her? Right. 0:25:36.369 --> 0:25:38.869 Don't mess with time travel, people. 0:25:38.890 --> 0:25:39.270 It's too hard. 0:25:39.290 --> 0:25:41.370 There's too many unanswered questions. 0:25:41.990 --> 0:25:42.870 Yeah. 0:25:42.910 --> 0:25:44.730 One of the greatest time travel trilogies of all time, 0:25:44.830 --> 0:25:47.109 Back to the Future. People are now shredding parts of 0:25:47.170 --> 0:25:49.350 it because it's like, this doesn't make sense with time travel. 0:25:49.850 --> 0:25:52.430 Stay away from time, unless you can nail it, stay 0:25:52.470 --> 0:25:55.430 away from time travel. Because again, okay, I'm going to 0:25:55.450 --> 0:25:57.450 make a quick trip back to myself a thousand years ago. 0:25:57.820 --> 0:25:59.470 The night that this was all going to happen, I'm 0:25:59.490 --> 0:26:01.179 going to grab the necklace for myself and I'm going 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:02.540 to have it with myself in the future and no 0:26:02.580 --> 0:26:03.280 one's going to know I have it. 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.680 But at this time, she doesn't know that anyone's trying 0:26:05.700 --> 0:26:06.200 to mess with it. 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.720 She knows it's the most powerful, magical thing in the 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.520 world to the point where they were going to take 0:26:11.580 --> 0:26:13.180 over all the Halloween town and she just put it 0:26:13.220 --> 0:26:13.720 in a box. 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:15.340 Right. 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.220 And I don't, how do you not go back and 0:26:17.260 --> 0:26:17.660 get that? 0:26:19.910 --> 0:26:27.129 I mean, exactly. Yeah, exactly. 0:26:27.190 --> 0:26:30.810 Don't mess with time travel. It leaves too many open questions. 0:26:30.830 --> 0:26:35.080 You're like, Oh no, I know. I know. Anyway, grandma's 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.260 now on the soup phone. 0:26:37.369 --> 0:26:38.410 Uh, the Campbell's cordless. 0:26:38.990 --> 0:26:41.129 I just came up. Forget it. I'll show myself out. 0:26:41.869 --> 0:26:44.429 Gwen asks her daughter what she's being congratulated for, and 0:26:44.470 --> 0:26:48.010 apparently Marnie has been accepted to which university in Halloween Town? 0:26:48.490 --> 0:26:49.810 Gwen, of course, strictly objects. 0:26:49.890 --> 0:26:52.030 The plan was to go to two years of community college, 0:26:52.070 --> 0:26:54.570 then transfer to state, but Marnie wants to explore her 0:26:54.609 --> 0:26:57.010 abilities now that she's 18. She knows there are bad 0:26:57.050 --> 0:27:00.240 witches out there, but they must let her fly free. 0:27:00.820 --> 0:27:02.899 But Gwen, of course, isn't having it. She's not going 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.919 to pay for this witch school, but Marnie has that covered, too. 0:27:05.300 --> 0:27:07.129 She pulls out her official letter and a hologram of 0:27:07.180 --> 0:27:09.889 a little woman with high hair calling herself the Chancellor, 0:27:10.250 --> 0:27:12.850 and she reveals that she's been awarded a full scholarship. 0:27:13.330 --> 0:27:16.570 And that night, Marnie studies the school's welcome pamphlet, so excited. 0:27:16.310 --> 0:27:18.990 For the future, and again, dealing with holograms, which all 0:27:19.030 --> 0:27:19.930 this looked great. 0:27:20.310 --> 0:27:23.210 So good. So good. Realizing she can't stop her, Gwen 0:27:23.230 --> 0:27:27.950 has Marnie's brother Dylan, who Gwen doesn't give a shit about, basically, 0:27:27.990 --> 0:27:31.090 for most of this movie. Every time she does call Dylan, 0:27:31.109 --> 0:27:32.590 she's like, where's Marty? 0:27:32.609 --> 0:27:33.430 Where's your sister? 0:27:33.450 --> 0:27:36.230 Go help your sister. He's bleeding from the eyes and 0:27:36.260 --> 0:27:39.240 the nose. And she's like, go get your sister. Didn't 0:27:39.260 --> 0:27:40.169 give a about this kid at all. 0:27:42.170 --> 0:27:42.950 I noticed that. 0:27:42.970 --> 0:27:43.740 But you know what? 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.720 I feel like with so many family dynamics, there's always 0:27:49.780 --> 0:27:52.760 the squeaky wheel kid, right? Like the one that the 0:27:52.859 --> 0:27:55.200 parents just constantly have to like. 0:27:55.420 --> 0:27:59.320 Check in with. They're more needy in many, many ways. 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.880 And then like the kid that like is like on 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.420 track and does really well and does well for themselves. 0:28:06.109 --> 0:28:08.850 The parents, because they do so well for themselves, like, 0:28:08.910 --> 0:28:11.190 just don't check in. I feel like that's a real 0:28:11.450 --> 0:28:14.010 trope with parenting. It is, unfortunately. 0:28:14.030 --> 0:28:17.619 Marnie has now proved herself over three movies to constantly 0:28:17.660 --> 0:28:20.060 get it done, do it right, be a good person, 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.300 use her magic properly. 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.380 Yeah, but she causes chaos along the way. 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.450 No, chaos happens around her. That's a different thing. 0:28:27.150 --> 0:28:30.240 No, I feel like she causes it. The second movie. 0:28:30.260 --> 0:28:30.880 The second movie. 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.180 She was found, saw the guy, met the guy. 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.820 And the next day, like not even the next day, 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.160 like three hours later, it's like. 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:39.120 Let's go. 0:28:39.220 --> 0:28:41.230 Here's, here's my grandmother's book. 0:28:41.550 --> 0:28:45.530 Hey, by the way, I don't see the problem, but 0:28:45.550 --> 0:28:47.930 with Dylan, she's like, yeah, Marnie, you're not going to school. 0:28:47.990 --> 0:28:50.350 Dylan's like, well, I'm like, he's like, you go, you go. 0:28:50.630 --> 0:28:51.870 No one likes you. 0:28:51.910 --> 0:28:54.480 I feel like parents have like the one kid they trust. 0:28:54.540 --> 0:28:56.970 And as long as they're around, they're good. 0:28:56.990 --> 0:28:58.600 I was, I was the trusted kid. 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.260 I do not believe that. 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.160 I was, I was, I was, it's the truth. I 0:29:04.180 --> 0:29:05.080 was such a good kid. 0:29:05.100 --> 0:29:05.940 I was an easy kid. 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.120 I was, it's true. 0:29:09.940 --> 0:29:10.620 That you did that. 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:11.600 I'm like, you are. 0:29:11.620 --> 0:29:14.740 I know. Well, the, my parents didn't know I was 0:29:14.780 --> 0:29:17.070 doing stuff, but I was doing stuff to myself, but 0:29:17.090 --> 0:29:18.050 I was still a good kid. 0:29:18.130 --> 0:29:18.730 That's a difference. 0:29:19.310 --> 0:29:21.940 Anyway. So that morning, ready to leave, Marnie opens a 0:29:21.980 --> 0:29:24.020 portal in the front yard to go. But before they 0:29:24.060 --> 0:29:26.320 step through, Gwen rushes out to give Marnie a special 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:30.469 protective tool, a witch's glass disguised as a wristwatch. They 0:29:30.510 --> 0:29:33.230 all hug and Marnie wonders what glorious form of transportation 0:29:33.250 --> 0:29:35.150 will be waiting to take her to school. They walk 0:29:35.170 --> 0:29:38.510 through the portal and boom, we are back in Halloween Town. 0:29:38.870 --> 0:29:40.560 We see the famous big pumpkin. right there in the 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.360 town center. And despite her hopes, it's just their old 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.979 hacky skeleton pal, Benny, and his cab waiting for them. 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:47.140 And I was so happy to see Benny again. 0:29:47.340 --> 0:29:47.880 I know. 0:29:48.180 --> 0:29:50.280 He welcomes them back and tells them it is the 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.960 millennium anniversary of Halloween Town with a big shindig at 0:29:52.980 --> 0:29:55.960 the castle on Halloween night. They eventually arrive, and Marnie 0:29:55.980 --> 0:29:58.560 can't help but admire the beautiful campus and marvel at 0:29:58.580 --> 0:30:01.920 the diversity of monsters around her. Dr. 0:30:01.940 --> 0:30:05.220 Chancellor Goodwin appears to welcome her to Witch University. 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.660 As Chancellor Goodwin walks the Cromwells into school, the university's 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.340 stone gargoyles are watching Marnie. One of them has a 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.340 hidden camera in its eye, transmitting everything to a screen 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.160 being watched by Silas Sinister. 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:18.280 You can't be good with that name. 0:30:18.730 --> 0:30:20.420 The floating head we saw at the beginning of the movie, 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.760 he announces the young Cromwell is finally here. I'm not 0:30:22.780 --> 0:30:23.620 going to keep doing Keone. 0:30:23.700 --> 0:30:25.180 I wish I could. I love his voice so much. 0:30:25.300 --> 0:30:28.219 I really do. Alert the Dominion. By midnight on Halloween, 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.200 the prophecy will be fulfilled. And again, his voice is amazing. 0:30:31.220 --> 0:30:33.780 That's why he's in so many amazing animated projects. We 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.500 cut back to Marnie and Dylan, who spot their old 0:30:35.540 --> 0:30:38.110 pal Ethan from afar. Marnie gets embarrassed when her brother 0:30:38.140 --> 0:30:40.430 yells his name. Marnie tries to use magic to lift 0:30:40.450 --> 0:30:42.410 her heavy bags, only for a man on a nearby 0:30:42.470 --> 0:30:44.950 park bench to ground not only the bags, but the 0:30:45.050 --> 0:30:46.730 siblings with the, and I'm going to try to get 0:30:46.750 --> 0:30:52.400 this right, Deskino Benevisio spell, of course. She discovered the 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.780 school's worst rule ever, magic is strictly forbidden on campus. 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.180 And I was like, huh, okay, we're getting some rules. 0:30:59.960 --> 0:31:02.760 Fellow student and mean girl Scarlet Sinister struts right up 0:31:02.820 --> 0:31:05.260 after the crash to rub it in, and the park 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:06.960 bench man reveals himself. 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.720 To be another faculty member, Dr. Ichabod Grog. 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.240 Apparently a force to be reckoned with, he calls them 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.090 all insolent children and warns them about possible dismissal. Dylan 0:31:16.110 --> 0:31:18.190 tries to introduce himself to the girls, but Scarlett warns 0:31:18.250 --> 0:31:20.390 him she's not his type. She flips her hair. Oh, 0:31:20.550 --> 0:31:22.850 we've got mean girls, people. And struts away with two friends, 0:31:23.090 --> 0:31:26.120 Sage and Sapphire, trailing right behind her. At least we 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.960 think they're friends at this point. We don't actually know. 0:31:29.700 --> 0:31:31.720 Instead of being embarrassed by the brutal shutdown, Dylan is 0:31:31.740 --> 0:31:34.540 completely entranced. Marnie tells him it's about time to go home, 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.220 but he shocks her with some news. Mom doesn't give 0:31:37.260 --> 0:31:39.820 two shits about me, so I'm now enrolled at Wichu 0:31:39.900 --> 0:31:41.969 as well. Mom didn't even know she's now getting rid 0:31:41.990 --> 0:31:44.040 of two of her three kids and only cares about Marnie. 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.240 And cares about Marnie so much that even when Marnie's 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.760 entire face and body changes, she doesn't even notice. Their 0:31:49.780 --> 0:31:52.959 mom only agreed to let her go if he went too. 0:31:53.380 --> 0:31:53.640 What? 0:31:53.860 --> 0:31:58.280 Marnie is in complete disbelief. We're now in Marnie's stunning 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.000 church-like dorm room. If this is what dorm rooms are like, 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:02.840 I might have gone to that college stuff too, but 0:32:02.940 --> 0:32:06.520 I read good in things. Marnie can't believe that Halloween 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.350 Town of all places has a no magic rule. Then 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.880 Marnie's wrist rings. It's her mom calling from the supermarket. 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.970 Frustrated about Dylan, she ignores it. But then Grandma Aggie 0:32:15.010 --> 0:32:17.530 pops up out of nowhere to surprise her again as 0:32:17.570 --> 0:32:18.010 a hologram. 0:32:18.030 --> 0:32:19.810 So she probably shot for like a day or two. 0:32:19.990 --> 0:32:20.210 Yeah. 0:32:21.270 --> 0:32:23.570 Her little sister Sophie is touring the galaxy for some 0:32:23.790 --> 0:32:27.570 little green docent, which is code for not budgeted to 0:32:27.610 --> 0:32:28.170 appear in the film. 0:32:28.950 --> 0:32:29.290 Exactly. 0:32:29.670 --> 0:32:32.850 They catch up and Grandma Aggie defends Gwen. She's just 0:32:32.890 --> 0:32:35.690 trying to protect her daughter. Aggie's magical protection starts to 0:32:35.710 --> 0:32:38.240 glitch and flicker and she blames the solar flares. Right 0:32:38.260 --> 0:32:40.920 before she disappears, Grandma Aggie gets very serious. She warns 0:32:40.980 --> 0:32:42.980 Marnie of secrets at the school. Why not just. 0:32:43.460 --> 0:32:46.530 So again, she is aware of all this stuff. Just 0:32:46.570 --> 0:32:47.870 go back in time and make it right. 0:32:48.950 --> 0:32:50.730 And these are things that she should have told her about, 0:32:50.770 --> 0:32:54.209 but didn't. But before she can explain what those secrets are, 0:32:54.270 --> 0:32:57.870 Grandma Aggie is gone, leaving Marnie confused and unprepared. Okay, 0:32:58.110 --> 0:33:00.550 in the future, if you're in a place where you're 0:33:00.570 --> 0:33:03.650 in another dimension and you've got 30 seconds to tell 0:33:03.690 --> 0:33:05.550 you a secret, don't start with, there's a secret I 0:33:05.550 --> 0:33:07.010 have to tell you, I should have told you before. 0:33:07.030 --> 0:33:11.580 Start with, This is happening. Exactly. If you've got if 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.020 you can say two lines from the dead or whatever, 0:33:14.060 --> 0:33:15.740 you come in and go, you know, Chuck killed me. 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.700 You don't come in and go, let me tell you, 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.620 is everyone sitting? Can everyone hear me from where they are? 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.580 Because I'm in a second. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:23.719 I'm going to tell you who killed me. 0:33:23.780 --> 0:33:26.360 Give me one moment. Oh, no. Now I can't tell you. 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:27.220 Just start with. 0:33:27.100 --> 0:33:30.560 Chuck killed me and go from there. It's true. 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.580 Sorry to everybody out there named Chuck, who's a fan. 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.230 Unless you're a killer. Then I'm not sorry at all. 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.000 They're going to get you, Chuck. Back at the supermarket, 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.690 the newly realized empty nester Gwen is chatting with a 0:33:40.710 --> 0:33:43.850 completely uninterested clerk worried about Marnie. Lost in her thoughts, 0:33:43.870 --> 0:33:46.110 she nearly walks out without her groceries. She snaps her 0:33:46.150 --> 0:33:48.470 fingers and magically floats the bag to her hands, leaving 0:33:48.490 --> 0:33:50.730 the baffled Kirk to announce in the microphone, meltdown at 0:33:50.770 --> 0:33:54.710 register three. So apparently we're just openly doing magic in 0:33:54.950 --> 0:33:57.780 the muggle world just in front of everybody. 0:33:58.220 --> 0:33:59.420 Muggle world is Harry Potter. 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:04.940 Which is what we did all Halloween three. We did 0:34:05.220 --> 0:34:07.400 magic in front of everyone and people were like. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:09.960 Oh, that's weird. 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:10.900 That's just what we're doing. 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.240 Oh, well. 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:12.580 And keep moving on. 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.920 Yeah. By the way, if you squint really hard at 0:34:15.940 --> 0:34:18.120 the WB logo, it kind of looks like the Disney 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.149 logo sometimes. So maybe we can do all the Harry 0:34:20.170 --> 0:34:21.750 Potter movies so you're going to be forced to watch them. 0:34:22.370 --> 0:34:24.290 That's all I have to say. That's all I have 0:34:24.330 --> 0:34:24.569 to say. 0:34:24.910 --> 0:34:26.790 I will do it. I will do it for this podcast. 0:34:26.810 --> 0:34:27.469 You'll have to. 0:34:27.510 --> 0:34:28.670 It's phenomenal. Oh, they're so good. 0:34:28.930 --> 0:34:29.510 I will. 0:34:29.570 --> 0:34:32.450 Read the books, though. Anyway. Back at Marnie's dorm, smoke 0:34:32.469 --> 0:34:34.850 suddenly starts barreling in from underneath the door, followed by 0:34:34.890 --> 0:34:37.450 a red envelope sliding across the floor. It reads, please 0:34:37.489 --> 0:34:40.930 come see your resident advisor in room 13, which she 0:34:40.969 --> 0:34:45.359 takes surprisingly calmly, of course, because we're in. 0:34:45.580 --> 0:34:45.880 Okay. 0:34:47.020 --> 0:34:51.620 That's not magic. A genie, a genie smoke coming out 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.120 of a lamp and sucking you in a smoke and 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:54.600 bringing you to that. 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.160 How is that not magic? Apparently they're saying that's different. 0:34:57.180 --> 0:34:58.500 That, that's what I'm saying. 0:34:58.580 --> 0:35:02.850 Like, it's like, there's this rule, but like, again, not 0:35:02.910 --> 0:35:04.730 everyone has to follow the rule. 0:35:04.910 --> 0:35:06.750 And she tries to say that I'm not a witch. 0:35:06.810 --> 0:35:09.970 I'm a genie, but then you're still using magic. 0:35:10.450 --> 0:35:11.549 I don't know. 0:35:11.910 --> 0:35:12.310 All right. 0:35:12.350 --> 0:35:14.220 So she walks down the hall, knocks on the RA's 0:35:14.260 --> 0:35:16.140 door and enters after a voice tells her to come in. 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.940 Once inside, however, the room's completely empty. As she investigates, 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.140 purple smoke engulfs her and transports her, apparently non-magically, into 0:35:23.180 --> 0:35:26.060 a genie lamp. Now inside this cool trippy lamp, Her 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.219 resident advisor, Anissa, introduces herself. She was the first ever 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.930 genie accepted to witch you and can answer any questions 0:35:31.989 --> 0:35:32.640 Marnie might have. 0:35:32.890 --> 0:35:33.799 Very clever character. 0:35:34.370 --> 0:35:38.710 Marnie wonders who the three mean girls were, calling them 0:35:38.910 --> 0:35:41.610 style slaves who patrol the commons. Anissa says they are 0:35:41.650 --> 0:35:47.069 the Sinister Sisters. Ooh, Scarlet, Sapphire, and Sage Sinister. Their 0:35:47.090 --> 0:35:50.500 father is a wealthy and powerful warlock. And later at lunch, 0:35:50.540 --> 0:35:52.779 Marnie watches these sinister sisters. Oh, I don't want to 0:35:52.820 --> 0:35:55.640 keep saying this. Sinister sisters. Sinisters. I slit the sheet, 0:35:55.660 --> 0:35:57.170 the sheet I slit, and on the slitted sheet I sit. 0:35:57.750 --> 0:36:00.370 Red leather, yellow leather. Red leather, yellow leather. Sinister sisters. 0:36:00.590 --> 0:36:01.350 Sinister sisters. 0:36:01.469 --> 0:36:04.650 Magically fill their trays with dishes like succotash a la Scorpion. 0:36:05.270 --> 0:36:07.870 Curious about the double standard, Marnie asks Anissa why they're 0:36:07.890 --> 0:36:09.510 allowed to use magic, but they're not. 0:36:09.730 --> 0:36:12.050 It's guys trying to impress them, even if it's illegal. 0:36:12.890 --> 0:36:15.529 A bunch of simps. Just then, Ethan appears and the 0:36:15.570 --> 0:36:18.930 two exchange an awkward, hey. Anissa introduces herself and feels 0:36:18.969 --> 0:36:21.940 the tension. Ethan apologizes for everything, and Marnie realizes it 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.900 must have been very difficult for him dealing with his 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.900 father's exile. They all decide to eat lunch together, and 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.500 their conversation abruptly turns to the school's no magic rule. 0:36:29.900 --> 0:36:31.580 Ethan reveals the rule is new. 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.200 Students used to be required to use magic in the class, 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.810 so they are trying to explain it. Anissa says the 0:36:36.850 --> 0:36:40.370 rules changed after the school started admitting monsters, mummies, and genies, 0:36:40.730 --> 0:36:43.690 so Marnie is actually the reason why the school changed 0:36:43.730 --> 0:36:46.880 its policy. After she permanently opened the portals between the worlds, 0:36:46.980 --> 0:36:49.799 tons of Halloweentown students enrolled and the no magic rule 0:36:49.820 --> 0:36:53.779 was created to keep things academically fair. But like we saw, 0:36:54.100 --> 0:36:56.100 students are still using magic. You just have to make 0:36:56.140 --> 0:36:58.299 sure no faculty is around to get caught. It's like 0:36:58.340 --> 0:36:59.580 smoking in high school when I was there. 0:37:01.580 --> 0:37:05.060 But honestly, though, if I had magic and it made 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.299 my life easier, it would be so hard to not 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:08.640 do it. 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:09.040 Right. 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.419 It's like having a calculator and still having to write 0:37:11.460 --> 0:37:13.060 out your math problems in school. 0:37:13.550 --> 0:37:16.089 Well, but yeah, it's not just that, but it's also, okay, 0:37:16.110 --> 0:37:20.270 so then what am I learning at which university? 0:37:20.330 --> 0:37:24.089 That was my number one question. If they can't do magic, why? 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.299 I'm going to go to a regular university and use 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.240 my magic. 0:37:27.380 --> 0:37:30.900 And it's like them going to this academy to, it's 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.600 to hone your skills, right? 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.340 Well, that's what Hogwarts is. They teach you magic. 0:37:35.910 --> 0:37:38.290 Yeah, they teach you how to use your skills because 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.960 Magic is dangerous. And if it's used incorrectly, it can happen. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.939 So you need to learn how to do it. But no, 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:46.540 you can't. 0:37:47.180 --> 0:37:49.200 It's like, wait, I'm sorry. I'm a magic user at 0:37:49.219 --> 0:37:51.440 a university called which you I can't use my magic. 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.160 Then I'm just going to go to Texas A & 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.270 M and I'm going to use my magic to Big 0:37:56.290 --> 0:37:57.030 Ten school. 0:37:57.050 --> 0:37:59.030 I can watch a great football game and. 0:37:59.030 --> 0:38:01.440 Use my magic. Like, what's the point? 0:38:01.780 --> 0:38:03.140 I like their dance teams. 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.219 All right. I'll do that, too. Like, what's what's the 0:38:06.260 --> 0:38:10.710 point of which you way better fraternities? And yeah, I mean, like, 0:38:10.770 --> 0:38:13.390 why would I why would I do this? So anyway, we. 0:38:13.370 --> 0:38:15.790 Are no sense. 0:38:15.830 --> 0:38:18.450 That number one rule that's like the whole thing of 0:38:18.489 --> 0:38:20.930 this movie is when I was like, oh, my gosh, 0:38:20.969 --> 0:38:22.060 we've lost it. 0:38:22.270 --> 0:38:24.190 It's like you're going to race car driving school and 0:38:24.210 --> 0:38:25.450 you're not allowed to drive anything. 0:38:25.469 --> 0:38:26.890 It's like, what the hell's the point? 0:38:26.910 --> 0:38:27.069 Yeah. 0:38:27.770 --> 0:38:30.690 No, you know what, though? Okay, never mind. I'll tell you. 0:38:31.370 --> 0:38:32.069 It's a different thing. 0:38:32.390 --> 0:38:34.390 When I showed up, I bought this whole thing for Jordan. 0:38:34.410 --> 0:38:37.270 I'm like, wait, he doesn't get to drive? He's sitting 0:38:37.310 --> 0:38:38.890 in this passenger seat? 0:38:39.050 --> 0:38:42.040 Wait, what? Oh, it's the NASCAR experience? 0:38:43.140 --> 0:38:46.620 No, I did one where it was like exotic cars. 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.300 So it was out in Vegas, like the exotic car racetrack, 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.120 which they do get to drive. But then it's the. 0:38:53.230 --> 0:38:54.930 then it was one of the drifter ones. 0:38:55.010 --> 0:38:56.670 And I mean, it makes sense that they don't let 0:38:56.730 --> 0:39:00.690 you drift, but I was kind of like. 0:39:01.190 --> 0:39:03.790 Wait a second. He just gets to watch the surgery. 0:39:03.830 --> 0:39:06.030 He doesn't get to actually perform it on someone. 0:39:06.050 --> 0:39:08.450 I thought they'd teach him a little bit like, yeah, 0:39:08.469 --> 0:39:10.230 that would make sense in a safe car, in a 0:39:10.230 --> 0:39:11.270 safe environment. 0:39:11.330 --> 0:39:13.509 Like, I think that's what he would get. 0:39:13.570 --> 0:39:15.569 And it was like, he's just sitting in the path. 0:39:16.190 --> 0:39:17.450 I just need what upgrade. 0:39:18.590 --> 0:39:19.150 Oh, I get it. 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:20.259 I get it. 0:39:28.300 --> 0:39:30.600 Gwen has just instantly decided to become a real estate 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.330 agent to fill her time as an empty nester. And 0:39:33.390 --> 0:39:35.130 as we all know, real estate exams take only 10 0:39:35.130 --> 0:39:36.690 to 15 minutes and you get your license on the 0:39:36.710 --> 0:39:39.129 same day, which is pretty great. See, she's still using 0:39:39.170 --> 0:39:42.150 her magic, obviously. She plants her realtor sign into the yard, 0:39:42.210 --> 0:39:45.550 hoping the new gig will distract her. When prospective buyers arrive, however, 0:39:45.590 --> 0:39:48.130 they immediately criticize the house and complain about everything from 0:39:48.150 --> 0:39:50.930 the condition of the property to all the leaves out front. 0:39:51.270 --> 0:39:53.850 So Gwen, who's not in school, so is allowed to, 0:39:53.890 --> 0:39:56.069 quietly uses her magic to send the leaves flying back 0:39:56.130 --> 0:39:58.190 onto the tree. We're starting to realize that Gwen is 0:39:58.290 --> 0:40:01.739 actually the magic abuser in the family. Which, again, the 0:40:01.780 --> 0:40:03.940 first one she didn't even admit she had any. We're 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:07.020 now back at Witch U, the unwitchiest U on the planet. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:11.700 A frazzled and disorganized Professor Periwinkle, who looks just like 0:40:11.780 --> 0:40:13.739 Grandma Aggie, really does, to the point where I was like, 0:40:14.580 --> 0:40:16.080 is this the part they wanted her to play? But 0:40:16.100 --> 0:40:17.799 then that wouldn't have made any sense. So, yeah, she 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.060 prepares for class, but she can't find her Shakespeare book. 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.220 One of the sinister sisters, sinister red leather, yellow leather, 0:40:23.260 --> 0:40:26.029 magically steals a copy from Marnie's desk, gives it to 0:40:26.050 --> 0:40:29.060 the professor, then gets extra credit for, quote unquote, finding it. 0:40:29.170 --> 0:40:31.469 What a witch. No, for real. A witch. 0:40:31.930 --> 0:40:33.890 By the way, everybody's using magic all the time. 0:40:35.140 --> 0:40:35.580 Everywhere. 0:40:35.940 --> 0:40:36.839 All the time. Everywhere. 0:40:36.860 --> 0:40:38.180 Even in the middle of class and everything. 0:40:38.219 --> 0:40:38.600 So anyway. 0:40:38.660 --> 0:40:38.859 Yeah. 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.560 After class, Marnie complains to Anissa about the Sinister Sisters, 0:40:41.620 --> 0:40:44.500 who they see nearby bullying a troll, and not like 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.900 the bad internet type of troll, the cool, nice troll 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:47.560 in a troll hoodie. 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:49.259 They call him Snotboy. 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.540 I think Scott would have been better. And use magic 0:40:52.580 --> 0:40:55.800 to send him flying across the squad. Marnie and Anissa 0:40:55.820 --> 0:40:57.299 check on the troll, and he says they call him 0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.640 Snotboy again because they can't remember his actual name. 0:41:00.030 --> 0:41:02.560 Which is a long series of snorts and growls. The third, 0:41:03.140 --> 0:41:03.879 which was a funny joke. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.299 Marnie and Anissa then head to the next class where 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.440 Ethan is waiting for them, saving seats. He's starting to 0:41:08.460 --> 0:41:11.779 get a little stalkerish. The professor is Dr. Grog, the 0:41:11.820 --> 0:41:15.109 stiff from earlier, who announces that students can call him G-Units. 0:41:16.210 --> 0:41:19.029 He immediately gives the students an enormous assignment, an essay 0:41:19.070 --> 0:41:22.970 on the entire history of the world, both mortal and magical. Yikes. 0:41:23.350 --> 0:41:25.930 As the students work, Scarlet Sinister uses the magic to 0:41:26.030 --> 0:41:28.430 allow her pen to write the paper for her, Marnie 0:41:28.469 --> 0:41:31.969 notices and is, of course, annoyed, which, again, if she 0:41:31.989 --> 0:41:34.029 can do this, then why have the brother do all 0:41:34.050 --> 0:41:35.469 the work later? I guess it's just to keep him 0:41:35.510 --> 0:41:37.730 under their thumb, but there would have been better ways 0:41:37.750 --> 0:41:38.170 to do that. 0:41:38.390 --> 0:41:39.630 But Marnie is, of course, annoyed. 0:41:40.010 --> 0:41:42.180 Scarlet finishes first and casts a spell over the classroom 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.200 on her way out for a school that doesn't allow magic. 0:41:44.219 --> 0:41:46.919 There's an awful lot of magic. As a result, Marnie 0:41:46.940 --> 0:41:48.400 is the last student to turn in her essay, and 0:41:48.420 --> 0:41:50.259 when she does turn it in to Dr. Grog, her 0:41:50.300 --> 0:41:53.279 paper's completely blank. Marnie can't believe this. Her essay must 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:53.890 have been hexed. 0:41:54.310 --> 0:41:54.570 Dr. 0:41:54.590 --> 0:41:56.670 Grog blows on the page, revealing the hidden writing and 0:41:56.730 --> 0:41:59.750 confirming that magic was indeed used. He seals the paper 0:41:59.770 --> 0:42:01.490 in a bag and tells Marnie it will be reported 0:42:01.530 --> 0:42:03.350 to the school for a thorough investigation. 0:42:03.890 --> 0:42:05.440 We're now out in the hall. Ethan catches up with 0:42:05.460 --> 0:42:06.200 the frustrated Marnie. 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.040 Ethan suggests that Scarlet is jealous of her and then 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.259 uses magic to summon a bouquet of flowers for her. 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.299 Just as Marnie thanks him, a room-shaking, deep voice over 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.739 the loudspeaker calls her to Chancellor Goodwin's office. We're now 0:42:18.820 --> 0:42:20.910 inside the office. Marnie tries to explain what happened, but 0:42:20.950 --> 0:42:23.370 Chancellor Goodwin assures her that she's not in any trouble. 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.779 She explains that some spells have a genetic fingerprint, but 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.710 this particular spell is too common to identify who cast it. 0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.080 The chancellor asks how Marnie's been adjusting, and she admits 0:42:33.460 --> 0:42:36.299 she hates the no magic rule. Chancellor Goodwin reveals that 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.570 when the university was founded, an enchantment was placed on 0:42:38.590 --> 0:42:41.810 the campus. Every spell cast at which university becomes permanent 0:42:41.910 --> 0:42:44.569 at midnight on Halloween. And I didn't understand this rule. 0:42:45.010 --> 0:42:45.150 No. 0:42:45.170 --> 0:42:47.310 The rule has worked as a deterrent for years until 0:42:47.330 --> 0:42:49.850 an innocent magical accident turned half of the freshman class 0:42:49.950 --> 0:42:50.650 into teacups. 0:42:52.770 --> 0:42:53.150 Okay. 0:42:54.010 --> 0:42:54.950 I didn't understand that. 0:42:54.989 --> 0:42:58.410 So any spell cast throughout the year becomes permanent, but 0:42:58.450 --> 0:43:04.109 they could still use magic. So it was just... Why 0:43:04.870 --> 0:43:07.840 make that enchantment? I don't understand. 0:43:08.030 --> 0:43:13.560 Also, again, we're at a school of people that do 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.580 not know how to use their magic fully. So you're 0:43:16.620 --> 0:43:20.020 telling me everyone that screws up and actually turns something 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.880 into a frog instead of it being whatever. 0:43:24.380 --> 0:43:27.899 That's going to be permanent at midnight on Halloween. Like 0:43:28.780 --> 0:43:30.300 that makes zero sense. 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.770 At what, again, it's like, I didn't get it. 0:43:32.770 --> 0:43:34.830 I just didn't get it. 0:43:35.150 --> 0:43:38.370 I know it just, it was so, I didn't get, it's. 0:43:38.310 --> 0:43:39.230 Got very convoluted. 0:43:40.070 --> 0:43:42.530 I just didn't get it. Chancellor Goodwin promises she'll learn 0:43:42.550 --> 0:43:44.840 more about herself than she ever could imagine. Then Marnie 0:43:45.060 --> 0:43:47.620 goes to her next class where students, including Ethan are 0:43:47.660 --> 0:43:50.480 waiting outside, unable to find the room. Chancellor Goodwin casts 0:43:50.540 --> 0:43:52.680 a spell that reveals a hidden classroom. It's an old 0:43:52.739 --> 0:43:55.610 castle dungeon that is usually off-limits, but this year a 0:43:55.660 --> 0:43:58.170 select group of students have a special opportunity. They will 0:43:58.190 --> 0:44:01.270 spend the semester excavating a thousand years of Halloween town 0:44:01.290 --> 0:44:02.630 history buried beneath the castle. 0:44:03.070 --> 0:44:06.310 Three-quarters of their grade will be based on their discoveries. Dr. 0:44:06.330 --> 0:44:09.530 Grog, who will supervise, who Marnie calls a fossil himself, 0:44:09.610 --> 0:44:12.149 just as he appears behind her. And as Dr. Grog 0:44:12.290 --> 0:44:15.469 explains the assignment, revealing that this whole place was built 0:44:15.570 --> 0:44:18.270 on top of the Cromwell Castle ruins... While he speaks, 0:44:18.330 --> 0:44:20.330 Marnie is mesmerized by a massive hole in the middle 0:44:20.350 --> 0:44:23.469 of the classroom. Noticing a flashing red light deep below, 0:44:23.610 --> 0:44:26.480 Scarlet jump scares her, startling Marnie and causing her foot 0:44:26.500 --> 0:44:29.020 to almost slip over the edge. Marnie and Scarlet begin 0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.360 speculating about what might be buried below. It could be 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.719 priceless family heirlooms or buried treasure. Scarlet argues that it 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.890 isn't fair for them to have their magic restricted when 0:44:36.930 --> 0:44:39.310 their grades are at stake, while Marnie insists that using 0:44:39.370 --> 0:44:40.510 magic wouldn't be fair. 0:44:41.690 --> 0:44:43.069 Which, again, she wanted to use the magic. 0:44:44.310 --> 0:44:46.989 Scarlet snaps her fingers and produces a skull artifact that 0:44:47.010 --> 0:44:50.760 immediately takes credit for the discovery. Now, the teacher saw 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.040 she wasn't digging anything, so she could only have used magic. 0:44:53.100 --> 0:44:55.819 I didn't get any. It's like, okay. The red light 0:44:55.860 --> 0:44:57.100 continues flashing and the ground starts. 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.020 But nobody really honestly cares about magic. 0:44:59.080 --> 0:44:59.200 Nope. 0:44:59.219 --> 0:45:02.100 It's literally only if new Marnie uses it. 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.890 And it's like, okay. But the whole point is they 0:45:04.910 --> 0:45:06.950 got her there because they need her to use magic. 0:45:07.230 --> 0:45:10.850 Exactly. That's why she was there. Literally why she was 0:45:10.910 --> 0:45:12.670 invited is to use magic. 0:45:12.910 --> 0:45:15.590 And then they let everybody else use magic but her. 0:45:16.219 --> 0:45:20.460 It's so weird. Yeah. The red light continues flashing. The 0:45:20.500 --> 0:45:23.380 ground starts to shake. Suddenly, a mysterious box levitates out 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.960 of the hole and lands directly in Marnie's hands. Everyone 0:45:26.020 --> 0:45:28.720 gasps when they see the name S. Cromwell written across 0:45:28.739 --> 0:45:31.200 the top. Dr. Grog dusts it off and realizes he 0:45:31.219 --> 0:45:33.780 needs a key to open it. After class, Dylan accuses 0:45:33.820 --> 0:45:35.920 Marnie of using magic to summon the box. Rumors are 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.459 already spreading. And even Anissa and the hoodie troll admit 0:45:38.540 --> 0:45:40.959 it does look suspicious. hey, how could you use. 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:42.780 Magic at a place where everybody else is using magic? 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:43.560 You're not supposed to use. 0:45:43.540 --> 0:45:44.240 Magic, new Marnie. 0:45:44.660 --> 0:45:47.580 And also, but everyone, everyone, everyone is using it. 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.799 Everyone's using it, but you can't, even though that's why 0:45:49.820 --> 0:45:54.000 you were brought here as a different person. Marnie insists 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.580 that she didn't call for it. It actually felt like 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.390 the box found her like it belonged to her. And 0:45:59.410 --> 0:46:01.910 then we jump to a secret meeting led by Silas Sinister. 0:46:02.390 --> 0:46:04.489 He reads from an ancient prophecy stating that at the 0:46:04.550 --> 0:46:06.850 close of the first millennium, when the Halloween moon rises, 0:46:06.989 --> 0:46:10.090 a Cromwell of great power will embrace the gift and 0:46:10.110 --> 0:46:13.400 the world will find peace under her dominion. Silas identifies 0:46:13.460 --> 0:46:15.580 Marnie Piper as the Cromwell from the prophecy, the one 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.360 they have been waiting for. Chancellor Goodwin arrives in a 0:46:18.380 --> 0:46:20.160 robe to announce that the girl has found the ancient 0:46:20.180 --> 0:46:23.560 box containing the gift. In response, Silas declares they will 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:28.070 soon rule Halloween Town. Okay. And then it's a twist 0:46:28.130 --> 0:46:31.430 when the sinister sisters, Silas' daughters, arrive. Silas accuses them 0:46:31.489 --> 0:46:33.630 of manipulating Marnie to use magic to find the box, 0:46:33.790 --> 0:46:36.190 and now they need her to open it. So they 0:46:36.350 --> 0:46:40.380 wanted her to use magic to find the box... Okay. Okay. Okay. 0:47:02.830 --> 0:47:04.069 We're now in the dorm's laundry room. 0:47:04.090 --> 0:47:06.210 Marnie struggles with a full basket of clothes and is 0:47:06.250 --> 0:47:07.989 tempted to use magic to speed things up like she'd 0:47:08.010 --> 0:47:09.569 be able to at Texas A & M. Go Aggies. 0:47:09.730 --> 0:47:11.529 I'm kidding. I have nothing to do at Texas A & M, 0:47:11.550 --> 0:47:14.549 by the way. But ultimately, she decides against it. And 0:47:14.570 --> 0:47:17.320 when she opens the washing machine, she sees her mother, Gwen, 0:47:17.380 --> 0:47:19.820 reflected in the water. She clearly misses her daughter and 0:47:19.860 --> 0:47:22.000 is checking in because she hasn't heard from Marnie in 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.600 a while. I was just going to say, do you 0:47:24.660 --> 0:47:27.940 often open your washing machine with a full load of 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.509 water in it? Marnie didn't try to call her mom. 0:47:31.590 --> 0:47:33.969 Gwen's just in the water. So what I'm saying is 0:47:34.010 --> 0:47:35.969 why would she open the thing anyway to look into 0:47:36.010 --> 0:47:38.230 a full thing? Yeah. 0:47:38.670 --> 0:47:41.149 Like make it a sink or because it's like. 0:47:41.850 --> 0:47:43.950 Yeah. And now I'm just nitpicking. There's so much worse 0:47:43.969 --> 0:47:47.580 with this movie than this. She sees her mother Gwen 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.600 reflected in the water. She clearly misses her daughter and 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.460 is checking in because she hasn't heard from Marnie in 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.300 a while. Marnie asked Gwen about a family heirloom, possibly 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:55.880 a silver box like the one that appeared in her 0:47:55.900 --> 0:47:58.479 hands during the special class. But Gwen has no idea 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.860 what she's talking about. Ethan walks into the room and 0:48:00.900 --> 0:48:04.060 interrupts their conversation. And back at the open house, Gwen 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.880 is now caught yelling into a toilet by prospective clients. 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.020 And that is not a euphemism for vomiting. She's literally 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.359 yelling into the toilet. Back at the washing machines, Ethan 0:48:12.380 --> 0:48:15.450 suggests using magic to make the work go faster. But 0:48:15.510 --> 0:48:19.169 Marnie refuses, especially with the recent accusations against her. Ethan 0:48:19.210 --> 0:48:22.210 tells Marnie she looks cute and the conversation quickly turns horny. 0:48:23.090 --> 0:48:25.609 Their conversation is cut short when the PA summons Marnie 0:48:25.650 --> 0:48:28.340 to the dig site. Marnie and Ethan agree to rain 0:48:28.390 --> 0:48:31.250 check that coffee and finish their horny conversation later. 0:48:31.850 --> 0:48:32.730 We're now at the dig site. 0:48:32.910 --> 0:48:35.290 Marnie arrives to find Chancellor Goodwin with the now glowing 0:48:35.350 --> 0:48:36.290 red Cromwell box. 0:48:36.489 --> 0:48:38.470 It's glowing red beneath a protective bubble. 0:48:39.010 --> 0:48:41.089 Goodwin wants the box open, but Marnie points out that 0:48:41.110 --> 0:48:41.970 the key's still missing. 0:48:42.090 --> 0:48:43.610 Chancellor Goodwin then just. 0:48:43.489 --> 0:48:46.000 Tells you to use magic. We just had a scene 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.000 where the sisters have to try to manipulate her into 0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:52.580 breaking the rules. Why not just have the Chancellor walk 0:48:52.620 --> 0:48:53.940 in day one and go, no. 0:48:54.100 --> 0:48:55.560 I'm the leader of the school. Use magic. 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.799 We want to see what's in it. Yeah. What, what 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.530 is going on? It's the weirdest writing. 0:49:01.739 --> 0:49:05.890 And it's like such a mind trip. Like, because you're just, 0:49:07.110 --> 0:49:10.149 I mean, it is, is it, what is she trying 0:49:10.190 --> 0:49:13.750 to do? Is Marnie really trying to be good? Even 0:49:13.790 --> 0:49:17.090 though Marnie has fought her mom to be able to 0:49:17.230 --> 0:49:20.589 use magic for three movies and now she there going 0:49:20.610 --> 0:49:23.750 like you would think she was like trying to sneak 0:49:23.790 --> 0:49:25.989 around and do as much magic as she can learn 0:49:26.030 --> 0:49:28.940 from as many people as she can trying to hone 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:30.620 like the things that. 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.620 She hasn't nope it's. 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.940 It doesn't make sense on what we've already seen for 0:49:35.980 --> 0:49:38.420 three movies too that's what's a hard part for me 0:49:38.660 --> 0:49:41.910 is I'm like this movie is like almost standing on 0:49:41.950 --> 0:49:42.509 his own as. 0:49:42.489 --> 0:49:43.790 Its own witch movie. 0:49:44.730 --> 0:49:47.840 Yeah. I don't, I don't get what's it's just, I 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:48.340 don't get it. 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:49.140 I don't get it. 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:49.700 Yeah. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.660 Because it's like, what that's, that's your movie then bring 0:49:53.700 --> 0:49:55.560 her in one day, bring her in the first day 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.529 she's there and just tell her to open the box. Yeah. 0:50:00.210 --> 0:50:01.870 What is, what is all the, we have to manipulate 0:50:01.890 --> 0:50:03.650 her to then just have the woman walk in and go, no, 0:50:03.690 --> 0:50:06.020 just use magic. Open it. You're fine. Right. It was 0:50:06.060 --> 0:50:08.630 so weird. Chancellor Goodwin encourages her to use the magic, 0:50:08.850 --> 0:50:10.910 insisting she'd allow it. When Marnie asks if this is 0:50:10.950 --> 0:50:12.930 a trap, the chancellor laughs and encourages her to have 0:50:12.950 --> 0:50:15.830 a little fun. So Marnie snaps her fingers, but nothing happens. 0:50:16.190 --> 0:50:18.310 She tries spell after spell, but it refuses to open. 0:50:18.650 --> 0:50:21.180 So Chancellor Goodwin finally admits, oh, well, that was a bust. 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.320 That night, Anissa and Marnie sit on the steps outside 0:50:25.340 --> 0:50:27.120 the school and talk about what happened with the chancellor. 0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.899 Marnie wonders what the S in S Cromwell could mean 0:50:29.940 --> 0:50:32.090 and realizes her grandmother would probably know the answer, but 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:36.009 has no idea where or when she is. We're now 0:50:36.090 --> 0:50:39.549 in the familiar-looking Professor Periwinkle's class. The students are learning 0:50:39.590 --> 0:50:42.110 about a Midsummer Night's Dream, and Marnie argues that forcing 0:50:42.150 --> 0:50:44.790 someone to love another person with a spell isn't real love. 0:50:45.410 --> 0:50:47.719 After class, Marnie asks to speak with Periwinkle and follows 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.140 her into a huge office hidden in a closet. Teacups 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.799 float around the room while a magical watering pot takes 0:50:52.860 --> 0:50:55.719 care of a plant. Periwinkle reveals that she refused to 0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.100 sign the university's No Magic Pledge. She wasn't going to 0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.080 let the man keep her down, which is a funny line. 0:51:00.460 --> 0:51:02.359 Marnie says that kind of attitude reminds her of someone 0:51:02.380 --> 0:51:05.939 else she misses. Speaking of, Periwinkle surprises Marnie by asking 0:51:05.980 --> 0:51:08.250 about her grandmother. Their families have been friends since before 0:51:08.310 --> 0:51:12.210 Halloweentown existed. Marnie asks whether she knows of an S. Cromwell, 0:51:12.350 --> 0:51:16.870 a Susan, Sarah, or a Splendora. Periwinkle admits that Splendora 0:51:16.910 --> 0:51:18.930 was her friend in the early days of Halloweentown, but 0:51:18.989 --> 0:51:21.670 refuses to reveal her identity because she made a promise. 0:51:22.370 --> 0:51:23.230 We're now in Dylan's room. 0:51:23.290 --> 0:51:24.910 He stands in front of a mirror, fixing his hair 0:51:24.930 --> 0:51:28.900 and practicing the phrase, Mi amate, apparently preparing for a 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.719 date with Scarlett. He's interrupted by a bizarre scream, and 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.580 it's his ringtone. It's Marnie asking for help. When at 0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.640 the library, Marnie has gathered every book she can find 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.859 about the Cromwell family and hopes they hold the answer 0:51:39.900 --> 0:51:42.080 to the locked box and asks Dylan to help her 0:51:42.100 --> 0:51:45.090 read through them. Dylan admits he used the M word, 0:51:45.489 --> 0:51:48.950 or magic, in high school to speed read, which is 0:51:48.989 --> 0:51:50.870 how he skipped a grade. It's the only thing he 0:51:50.989 --> 0:51:52.550 ever used magic for, so they're trying to build it 0:51:52.590 --> 0:51:53.810 up that he's magical too. 0:51:54.469 --> 0:51:57.120 Marnie reminds him of the rules. we're back to the rules. 0:51:57.140 --> 0:51:59.819 You were just using magic 10 seconds ago. And the 0:51:59.860 --> 0:52:03.380 other thing it's so pick a fricking lane people. 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:04.840 Yeah. 0:52:05.140 --> 0:52:06.300 It's so strange. 0:52:07.780 --> 0:52:10.069 Just anyway, I keep saying it's so strange, but it is. 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.489 It also, I think the thing is, is because it's 0:52:12.530 --> 0:52:13.630 really not necessary. 0:52:13.950 --> 0:52:14.270 No. 0:52:14.989 --> 0:52:17.330 In the sense of, it doesn't amp. 0:52:17.350 --> 0:52:21.730 Up the stakes really, except for her possibly getting in trouble, 0:52:21.790 --> 0:52:25.290 but she could be possibly getting in trouble in a 0:52:25.330 --> 0:52:25.830 different way. 0:52:26.070 --> 0:52:27.020 Like, Yeah. 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:28.700 There's just so. 0:52:28.530 --> 0:52:31.890 Many other things. This is where rules to magic really matter, 0:52:32.770 --> 0:52:36.910 is you do something very simple. They kind of talked 0:52:36.950 --> 0:52:40.370 about this in the first and second movies. They talked 0:52:40.390 --> 0:52:42.630 about it a little bit in the third, a bit 0:52:42.650 --> 0:52:45.450 in the third, where they're learning levels of magic. Level 0:52:45.530 --> 0:52:47.430 one magic, she's like, this is a level two spell. 0:52:47.780 --> 0:52:50.939 So it's very easy. Level one and level two spells 0:52:50.980 --> 0:52:52.819 are allowed at school when you're in a certain grade. 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.620 It's like driving was a privilege when you were at 0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.180 a certain level of school. You can do level one 0:52:57.219 --> 0:52:58.799 spells when you're a freshman. You can do one and 0:52:58.820 --> 0:53:02.440 two as a sophomore, but there's nothing allowed. A level 0:53:02.500 --> 0:53:05.240 three or level four spells are never allowed at the school. 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:06.160 Simple. 0:53:06.500 --> 0:53:08.160 And this is, it's a level four spell that needs 0:53:08.180 --> 0:53:08.460 to be done. 0:53:08.500 --> 0:53:10.660 Wait, she used a level three spell. There's ways of 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.520 doing it where you can still have the magic. It 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.440 still works. You don't need to go back and forth to, 0:53:14.820 --> 0:53:16.860 she can't use magic. She did use magic. Let her 0:53:16.900 --> 0:53:18.430 use magic. Let's not let her use magic. You got 0:53:18.450 --> 0:53:20.150 to trick her into using magic, but she can use 0:53:20.170 --> 0:53:22.870 the magic. It was so confusing. Yeah. 0:53:22.969 --> 0:53:24.850 It just, and it bopped back and forth. 0:53:25.130 --> 0:53:27.680 Yeah. It was whatever the scene needed at the time. 0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.070 That's what they just decided to put in. 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:30.460 And that's when it's too much. 0:53:30.820 --> 0:53:31.080 Agreed. 0:53:31.219 --> 0:53:34.020 Because again, I said earlier, I hate like people, or 0:53:34.060 --> 0:53:36.540 we talked earlier about, we hate when you are treating 0:53:36.580 --> 0:53:39.239 someone as if they're stupid. I also don't want to 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.330 sit here and have to scramble my brain into scrambled eggs, 0:53:43.390 --> 0:53:45.630 trying to figure out what the hell's going on because. 0:53:45.410 --> 0:53:46.890 You keep going back and forth. I don't want to 0:53:46.910 --> 0:53:47.390 be a genius either. 0:53:47.410 --> 0:53:48.910 I don't want to have to work too hard to 0:53:48.950 --> 0:53:50.049 watch this movie either. 0:53:50.370 --> 0:53:51.109 Yep. I agree. 0:53:51.150 --> 0:53:54.230 And I'm exhausted and we're only... 40 minutes in. 0:53:54.370 --> 0:54:06.920 I know. I know. Damn it. It's 87 minutes. So 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.680 Marnie reminds him of the rules for some reason, but 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.940 eventually gives up and tells him to use his magic. 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.219 Books begin flying off the shelves and words are spinning 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:14.739 around the room. 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.610 Once he's finished, Dylan excitedly announces that the box containing 0:54:17.650 --> 0:54:20.930 a magical power called The Gift is that the box 0:54:21.010 --> 0:54:23.870 contains a magical power called the gift, a power no 0:54:23.969 --> 0:54:27.210 other witch in Halloween Town possesses. While walking on campus 0:54:27.310 --> 0:54:30.109 and barely audible, he explains that a thousand years ago, 0:54:30.430 --> 0:54:33.350 Splendora Cromwell locked the gift inside the box and buried it. 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:35.910 And sadly, the pages describing the rest of the story 0:54:36.090 --> 0:54:36.500 are missing. 0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:40.480 It was crazy that audio just like just minimized so 0:54:40.540 --> 0:54:42.600 much and then came right back. It was only for 0:54:42.700 --> 0:54:45.339 like two or three lines and then came right back 0:54:45.380 --> 0:54:46.799 and was like, we could fix that. 0:54:47.300 --> 0:54:48.089 Yeah. I know. 0:54:48.110 --> 0:54:51.919 What's happening? ADFR here. Somebody, let's just read it again. 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.279 And again, keep in mind what they just said here, 0:54:56.060 --> 0:54:58.500 because this matters in a way that's very strange later. 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.120 He announces that the box contains a magical power called 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.220 the gift that no one else in Halloween Town possesses, 0:55:07.469 --> 0:55:09.989 and it can only be possessed by a Cromwell, is 0:55:10.050 --> 0:55:12.350 what they're talking about. Okay. 0:55:13.250 --> 0:55:15.469 Keep that in mind, people. Put a little checkmark next 0:55:15.489 --> 0:55:15.750 to that. 0:55:16.010 --> 0:55:19.259 It will come back. But before they can investigate any further, though, 0:55:19.300 --> 0:55:22.430 Dylan becomes distracted again by Scarlet Sinister. He rushes over 0:55:22.450 --> 0:55:24.150 to her and reminds her about their date, but she 0:55:24.190 --> 0:55:25.780 claims not to remember anything about it. 0:55:26.350 --> 0:55:28.770 Dylan remains unfazed and offers to buy her dinner anyway. 0:55:29.310 --> 0:55:31.770 Marnie walks up just as Scarlet calls her brother a toad, 0:55:32.130 --> 0:55:34.530 so she stands up for Dylan. But he insists everything 0:55:34.570 --> 0:55:37.490 is fine and even offers to do Scarlet's homework. Come on, dude. 0:55:38.290 --> 0:55:40.760 Before long, another boy catches Scarlet's attention and she leaves 0:55:40.780 --> 0:55:42.969 with him. Elsewhere, Chancellor Goodwin, Dr. 0:55:42.989 --> 0:55:46.290 Grog, and Silas Sinister watch Marnie and her brother through 0:55:46.390 --> 0:55:47.410 a magical cauldron. 0:55:47.930 --> 0:55:50.410 Marnie is frustrated by Scarlet and wants revenge. 0:55:51.110 --> 0:55:54.090 From her open house, Gwen calls Dylan, but some possible 0:55:54.110 --> 0:55:56.230 clients interrupt the conversation by complaining that the house is 0:55:56.250 --> 0:55:56.970 only two bedrooms. 0:55:57.290 --> 0:55:59.190 So Gwen, again, a magic abuser, turns it. 0:55:59.190 --> 0:56:02.489 Into a three bedroom. And she's calling Dylan to check 0:56:02.530 --> 0:56:04.669 in on, no, calling to check in on Marnie. When 0:56:04.690 --> 0:56:07.069 Gwen realizes that Marnie is with him, she asks to 0:56:07.090 --> 0:56:08.989 speak with her, but Marnie claims that she's too busy 0:56:09.010 --> 0:56:11.620 to talk and quickly ends the call. She can't lie 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.100 to her mom, but she also can't tell her what's 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.440 really going on. And Dylan thinks that whatever is in 0:56:15.460 --> 0:56:18.520 the box needs to stay buried. Back at the secret 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:22.279 cauldron meeting, Goodwin, Dr. Grog, and Silas Sinister agree that 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:24.739 Dylan is a major problem for their plan, but they 0:56:24.780 --> 0:56:26.919 think he can also be part of the solution. With that, 0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.279 Scarlet joins the trio and points out that Marnie will 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:33.759 do anything to save her brother. In Marnie's room, she's 0:56:33.820 --> 0:56:36.280 sitting at her desk when Ethan calls up from outside, 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.700 Hey Rapunzel! They casually flirt and Ethan asks her out. 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.140 And so later, here we are, Ethan's wearing a blazer 0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.360 and a big spider silver belt buckle, which was bad. 0:56:45.700 --> 0:56:46.299 And I want one. 0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.060 I never notice clothes. And I'm like, want that belt buckle. 0:56:50.219 --> 0:56:53.280 Hint for my birthday, I heart giant spider belt buckle. 0:56:54.380 --> 0:56:55.080 Meets up with her. 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.160 Hopefully they're writing a note right now. Mikayla's like, oh, 0:56:57.219 --> 0:56:57.879 spider belt buckle. 0:56:58.469 --> 0:57:01.990 Meets up with her for a hangout. They talk about 0:57:02.070 --> 0:57:04.689 being bummed that they can't fly at school, prompting Ethan 0:57:04.710 --> 0:57:06.430 to pull out a broomstick from out of the brush. 0:57:07.090 --> 0:57:08.630 And it was a gift from his dad. 0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.200 Though he hesitates at first, they climb aboard and fly 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.100 around the campus while assuming, you know, pop music kind 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:17.620 of plays and we see terrible special effects. The flying 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.520 in these movies was always the worst part. All the 0:57:19.540 --> 0:57:20.520 other effects looked great. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:21.260 Yeah. 0:57:21.620 --> 0:57:24.360 But it's almost like part of the movie now, the 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.860 bad broom flying. It's like I kind of expect it, 0:57:26.940 --> 0:57:27.620 you know? Yeah. 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.360 And it also is, again, this is when I was like, okay, 0:57:32.470 --> 0:57:35.840 you know, it is 2006. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is, 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:37.580 you know, and so in. 0:57:37.580 --> 0:57:41.790 That respect, it looks still pretty good for what Disney 0:57:41.850 --> 0:57:42.910 Channel was able. 0:57:42.730 --> 0:57:46.190 To do in 2006. I almost appreciate them keeping the 0:57:46.230 --> 0:57:48.530 broom flying a little cheesy. You know what I mean? Like, 0:57:48.550 --> 0:57:55.790 it's like there's something Halloween town about it being cheesy. So, yeah. 0:57:55.830 --> 0:57:58.490 They eventually stop for ice cream and he compliments her 0:57:58.650 --> 0:58:00.570 on her healthy appetite, which is a weird thing to 0:58:00.610 --> 0:58:03.070 say on a date. They begin talking about the mysterious 0:58:03.130 --> 0:58:06.260 Cromwell box and are eventually interrupted when Marnie sees Dylan 0:58:06.300 --> 0:58:09.520 walk in with the Sinister Sisters. The sisters shower Dylan 0:58:09.540 --> 0:58:11.700 with compliments and get him to do all their homework. 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.260 Marnie furiously storms over to tell the sisters to stay 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.520 away from her brother. Scarlet goes toe-to-toe with Marnie before 0:58:16.540 --> 0:58:19.480 the sisters and Dylan leave together. Marnie grabs a broomstick 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.200 from what looks to be a phone booth and takes 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.740 off with Ethan to follow them, but the broom malfunctions, 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.220 leaving them hanging by their fingertips before they crash to 0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.910 the ground. With that, the broom transforms into a magical 0:58:28.950 --> 0:58:32.700 snake and slithers away. Marnie thinks Scarlett jinxed it and 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.080 realizes that she must be spying on them. How else 0:58:35.100 --> 0:58:36.740 could she have known that they'd be out on their 0:58:36.780 --> 0:58:40.100 broom and out for a date? And more importantly, which 0:58:40.140 --> 0:58:42.660 broom they would take. Marnie and Ethan walk back to 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:44.960 campus hand in hand, not letting her brother getting brainwashed 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:48.650 ruin her prospective love life. Weird. The next day at school, 0:58:48.690 --> 0:58:51.250 the hoodie troll emotionally addresses the student body about an 0:58:51.350 --> 0:58:53.390 upcoming Halloween anniversary celebration. 0:58:53.010 --> 0:58:53.990 On campus while drooling. 0:58:54.590 --> 0:58:57.790 A sore Ethan finds Anissa and jokes he was swept 0:58:57.850 --> 0:59:00.240 off his feet the night before. They spot the Sinister 0:59:00.260 --> 0:59:02.820 Sisters walking by with Dylan carrying all of their books, 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.540 and Anissa wonders why Marnie doesn't simply cast a spell 0:59:05.580 --> 0:59:08.230 to stop Scarlet. This is where they try to do 0:59:08.270 --> 0:59:13.580 some explanation. Ethan explains... that witches can't completely control another person. Instead, 0:59:13.620 --> 0:59:18.300 the Sisters' spell simply amplifies desires that are already there. Then, 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.430 just as she arrives, Marnie is called on stage to 0:59:20.470 --> 0:59:24.930 volunteer for the Halloween celebration. Elsewhere, at another secret meeting, 0:59:24.970 --> 0:59:27.780 Chancellor Goodwin is meeting with the Sinister Sisters and their dad, 0:59:27.860 --> 0:59:30.160 clearly disappointed that they still haven't gotten Marnie to open 0:59:30.180 --> 0:59:33.060 the box. The sisters insist they've been trying, but Chancellor 0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:34.340 Goodwin demands they try harder. 0:59:34.620 --> 0:59:37.660 To do what? To do what? 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.700 She's tried all the spells she knows. No one's helping 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.680 her learn magic. She's not allowed to learn magic. The 0:59:44.740 --> 0:59:46.720 chancellor literally stood in front of her with the box 0:59:46.740 --> 0:59:49.720 and said, open the box. She tried 30 spells. They 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.260 didn't work. What the are they waiting for her to do? 0:59:53.500 --> 0:59:55.340 They're not saying we have to help her find the key. 0:59:55.620 --> 0:59:57.300 We have to help her do give her this scroll 0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.170 to give her that scroll. What are they waiting for 0:59:59.210 --> 1:00:01.570 her to do at this point? She tried. She can't 1:00:01.670 --> 1:00:02.370 open the box. 1:00:02.750 --> 1:00:03.830 And also. 1:00:05.370 --> 1:00:10.590 Why are, why are the sinister sisters befriending the brother? 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:14.300 instead of trying to help her, like there's no one 1:00:14.420 --> 1:00:15.890 trying to actually help her do it. 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:18.150 I guess what they're trying to do is they're trying 1:00:18.230 --> 1:00:21.430 to keep him like a hostage and Right. So that 1:00:21.450 --> 1:00:23.780 they can. But but what are they trying to force 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:24.340 her to do? 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:28.240 That's what I mean. They're not it's not explaining it. 1:00:28.340 --> 1:00:30.820 Besides knowing that they have that she needs to open 1:00:30.860 --> 1:00:31.220 the box. 1:00:31.540 --> 1:00:35.200 Which they literally placed in her hands in a room 1:00:35.260 --> 1:00:38.270 that and they said, you have full magical rain. Open 1:00:38.290 --> 1:00:41.910 the box. She couldn't open the box. So what do 1:00:41.930 --> 1:00:45.750 you do? What are they having her do? They didn't 1:00:45.810 --> 1:00:49.470 even come up to her like, your brother is being 1:00:49.510 --> 1:00:51.910 held captive in this other room until you figure out 1:00:51.950 --> 1:00:53.090 the magic to open the box. 1:00:53.150 --> 1:00:53.830 That never happened. 1:00:54.190 --> 1:00:54.390 No. 1:00:54.970 --> 1:00:59.830 They're telling her nothing. What is the goal that they 1:00:59.890 --> 1:01:02.229 want Marnie to accomplish? They want her to open the box. 1:01:02.450 --> 1:01:04.630 So they first tried to trick her into doing that. 1:01:04.930 --> 1:01:07.430 That didn't work. So then they just flat out brought 1:01:07.490 --> 1:01:09.040 her into a room and told her to open it. 1:01:09.490 --> 1:01:12.670 That didn't work. So what is this goal now? What 1:01:12.690 --> 1:01:13.570 are they trying to do? 1:01:16.450 --> 1:01:20.000 They're not necessarily making him super hostage. They're just annoying 1:01:20.020 --> 1:01:22.550 with her with like the fact that he's being a 1:01:22.590 --> 1:01:25.450 dumb boy, like a dumb guy with the girls. 1:01:25.950 --> 1:01:30.430 Yeah. Are they saying you've got until midnight on Halloween 1:01:30.470 --> 1:01:31.750 to figure out how to open this box or your 1:01:31.770 --> 1:01:36.930 brother's going to die? We can't do that on the channel, Will. 1:01:37.100 --> 1:01:42.340 Slow down. We're giving you... How about this? He's trapped 1:01:42.460 --> 1:01:44.400 in his witch's glass, which you know is where they 1:01:44.460 --> 1:01:46.720 trap people. And the only way to get him out 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:48.700 is by opening that box. Give her some kind of 1:01:48.740 --> 1:01:52.140 a timetable, something she's got to do. A restricted section 1:01:52.180 --> 1:01:54.800 to a library that can help. But even her brother, 1:01:54.860 --> 1:01:56.520 who's read all the books, is like... Yeah, I can 1:01:56.540 --> 1:01:57.580 tell you what it is, but I don't know how 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:57.840 to open it. 1:01:57.840 --> 1:01:58.440 I don't know how to do it. 1:01:58.580 --> 1:02:01.100 Yeah. Okay. So then what is she, what are they 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.780 hoping she's going to accomplish on her own? Yeah. It 1:02:04.860 --> 1:02:06.340 doesn't make any sense. 1:02:06.380 --> 1:02:07.820 Make it about finding the key or something. 1:02:07.940 --> 1:02:11.260 With also this big rule that she can't use magic 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:13.240 on campus. 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.440 It doesn't make, I don't get, this is one of the, 1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:19.930 one real movie where I was sitting there going, wow, 1:02:19.990 --> 1:02:23.090 I don't, one scene literally contradicts the last scene. 1:02:23.110 --> 1:02:25.090 Like I don't understand what's happening. Yeah. 1:02:25.110 --> 1:02:29.050 Yeah. Very, I'm not going to say very strange again. 1:02:29.070 --> 1:02:30.490 I say it too many times. Don't take a shot 1:02:30.510 --> 1:02:32.550 every time I say very strange. You'll be dead by 1:02:32.590 --> 1:02:35.470 the third chapter. Like, just don't do it. So, yes, 1:02:35.610 --> 1:02:37.410 the sisters complain about how hard they've worked. 1:02:37.450 --> 1:02:37.770 And Dr. 1:02:37.790 --> 1:02:39.880 Grogg and the Chancellor Goodwin think Marnie might open the 1:02:39.890 --> 1:02:43.200 box if she believes she's doing something noble. She tried 1:02:43.460 --> 1:02:47.820 to open the box. She could not open the box. 1:02:49.580 --> 1:02:52.160 She's not refusing to open the box. So they have 1:02:52.180 --> 1:02:54.990 to trick her into thinking she's doing something noble. She tried. 1:02:55.370 --> 1:02:58.610 She can't open it. Oh, it drove me. It drove 1:02:58.630 --> 1:02:59.150 me dippy. 1:02:59.430 --> 1:02:59.710 Dr. 1:02:59.750 --> 1:03:02.690 Grog praises the Sinister Sisters for their discoveries and dismisses 1:03:02.730 --> 1:03:03.090 the class. 1:03:03.770 --> 1:03:04.750 Chancellor Goodwin and Dr. 1:03:04.790 --> 1:03:07.070 Grog call Marnie over, who in turn complains that the 1:03:07.110 --> 1:03:09.100 sisters aren't being punished for breaking the rules. Now she 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:11.860 just turns out straight up snitch. But the teachers ignore 1:03:11.880 --> 1:03:14.840 her concerns and ask for their help with everything. Ethan, 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.360 secretly listening from around the corner, Grog asks Marnie to 1:03:17.500 --> 1:03:19.620 open the ancient scroll, and when she does, it glows. 1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:21.560 Chancellor Goodwin calls her special. 1:03:21.660 --> 1:03:24.300 The scroll contains an ancient Halloween town prophecy about a 1:03:24.340 --> 1:03:27.300 powerful Cromwell who will bring peace to their world forever. Okay. 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:30.400 Marnie doesn't understand why they believe the prophecy refers to her. 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:33.220 Chancellor Goodwin warns that not all magic is good magic, 1:03:33.300 --> 1:03:35.570 and on Halloween night, dark forces will try to destroy 1:03:35.590 --> 1:03:38.270 the peace and tranquility of their celebration. She hands Marnie 1:03:38.290 --> 1:03:40.530 the box and urges her to fulfill her destiny by 1:03:40.650 --> 1:03:41.450 finding the key. 1:03:41.490 --> 1:03:43.390 So finally now they're like at least telling her to 1:03:43.430 --> 1:03:43.890 find the key. 1:03:44.300 --> 1:03:46.480 Right. She doesn't need to be tricked into opening the box. 1:03:46.660 --> 1:03:49.380 She's been trying to open the damn box. Now at 1:03:49.420 --> 1:03:51.250 least you're giving her a thing to try to find 1:03:51.270 --> 1:03:54.330 the key. If she succeeds, Halloween Town can continue to 1:03:54.390 --> 1:03:58.450 exist in peace. As predicted, Marnie takes the responsibility seriously. 1:03:58.710 --> 1:04:00.630 She's been taking it seriously the entire time. She already 1:04:00.670 --> 1:04:01.700 tried to open the box several times. 1:04:02.540 --> 1:04:04.720 Ethan, still spying, is immediately suspicious. 1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:08.140 Outside on the quad, Ethan notices the gargoyle-like statues outside 1:04:08.180 --> 1:04:10.080 the school and accuses them of spying on his sister. 1:04:10.380 --> 1:04:12.550 The creatures deny it. And even when Ethan tries to 1:04:12.590 --> 1:04:15.010 bribe them with two cheeseburgers, they still refuse to talk. 1:04:15.670 --> 1:04:17.669 But in the dorm hallway, Ethan catches up with Marnie 1:04:17.690 --> 1:04:20.150 and they decide to confront Dylan at his dorm. Inside, 1:04:20.210 --> 1:04:22.510 he is swamped, surrounded by term papers, reports, and an 1:04:22.710 --> 1:04:25.740 active science experiment, all for the sisters. Dylan gets another 1:04:25.780 --> 1:04:28.280 call from their mom and his watch, so Marnie answers 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:30.580 it and steps out of the room. Marnie says he's studying, 1:04:30.780 --> 1:04:32.660 but Gwen knows something is wrong and offers to visit 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:35.400 them in Halloween Town. Marnie refuses and ends the call, 1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:37.740 leaving her mom to get busted, screaming into the birdbath. 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:40.140 Marnie wants to find another witch who can help them 1:04:40.300 --> 1:04:42.860 break Dylan's spell, but Ethan refuses and tells her that 1:04:42.900 --> 1:04:45.900 Grog and Chancellor Goodwin are using her. Marnie is shocked 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:47.479 to hear that the teachers are members of a secret 1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:50.390 organization his father once belonged to, the Seven Witches known 1:04:50.410 --> 1:04:53.790 as the Dominion. They plan to use Marnie's magic to 1:04:53.850 --> 1:04:57.310 take over Halloween Town and enslave its citizens. Marnie refuses 1:04:57.370 --> 1:05:00.170 to believe him. Dr. Grog and the Chancellor are good guys. 1:05:00.750 --> 1:05:03.070 She walks away from Ethan, leaving him behind but catching 1:05:03.090 --> 1:05:06.220 the attention of a gargoyle. We're now out in the woods. 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:09.300 Marnie meets with Professor Periwinkle and needs her help to 1:05:09.340 --> 1:05:11.790 send her back in time so she can talk to 1:05:11.810 --> 1:05:14.950 Splendora because it's time to address the box, the prophecy, 1:05:14.990 --> 1:05:17.930 and the future of Halloween Town. Periwinkle is thrilled. She's 1:05:17.990 --> 1:05:20.270 ready and willing to help. Why didn't she just go 1:05:20.330 --> 1:05:23.810 back herself? They touch hands and open a rainbow portal. 1:05:24.170 --> 1:05:26.320 Once Marnie steps through... And the portal, again, the way 1:05:26.340 --> 1:05:27.640 they do it and they shoot through it and how 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.060 they look and then come around the side looks great. Great. Great. 1:05:30.380 --> 1:05:30.740 Looks great. 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:34.380 Once Marnie steps through, it's still campus, but she's greeted 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.590 by a skeleton driving a carriage... an ancestor of her 1:05:37.610 --> 1:05:39.380 favorite taxi driver, Benny. And I don't think it was 1:05:39.410 --> 1:05:41.680 the ancestor. I think that was Benny. He agrees to 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:44.180 give her a ride to Splendora, who he calls the 1:05:44.220 --> 1:05:47.040 Great Lady, and has just as bad a set of 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:48.340 jokes as Benny ever has. 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:49.640 And I love every one of them. 1:05:49.660 --> 1:05:49.919 I know. 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:51.300 It's so cute. I love Benny. 1:05:51.380 --> 1:05:52.820 I want to do the spin-off Benny show. I loved 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:54.190 him being in this part of the world. 1:05:54.410 --> 1:05:55.110 Yep, me too. 1:05:55.130 --> 1:05:56.070 The spin-off Benny show. 1:05:56.310 --> 1:05:56.590 I do. 1:05:56.690 --> 1:05:57.670 It's just called It's Benny. 1:05:57.810 --> 1:06:01.370 I love that. She arrives at the castle to see 1:06:01.430 --> 1:06:03.770 slaves working outside well before it became a college and 1:06:03.830 --> 1:06:07.450 recognizes and recognizes one of the workers as Professor Periwinkle, 1:06:07.590 --> 1:06:09.730 who is of course a known time traveler. The younger 1:06:09.770 --> 1:06:12.230 version of her teacher reveals that Splendora is the future 1:06:12.310 --> 1:06:15.410 queen and is about to be coronated. We finally see Splendora, 1:06:15.490 --> 1:06:18.340 and she looks just like Marnie, but with blonde hair. 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:21.440 When Marnie tries to talk to the queen herself, one 1:06:21.460 --> 1:06:24.000 of the handlers freezes her in a bubble, confused that 1:06:24.020 --> 1:06:26.180 she looks like the queen but smells like a mere mortal. 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:28.530 Marnie bursts out of the bubble, but as she runs away, 1:06:28.630 --> 1:06:30.950 a spell sends her directly to an old-timey jail cell, 1:06:31.110 --> 1:06:33.210 which anybody could have gotten out of this jail cell. 1:06:33.310 --> 1:06:34.930 You didn't even need magic. You didn't even need a key. 1:06:34.950 --> 1:06:38.070 You just stepped through the damn things. Periwinkle sneaks in 1:06:38.090 --> 1:06:40.700 to tell Marnie that Splendora has locked herself in her bedroom, 1:06:40.860 --> 1:06:43.180 unwilling to come out for the ceremony. So Marnie uses 1:06:43.220 --> 1:06:46.480 magic to trade places with Periwinkle, landing in Splendora. No, 1:06:46.500 --> 1:06:49.260 she didn't trade places. So Marnie and Periwinkle use magic 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:52.740 to send her to Splendora's bedroom, which is coincidentally also 1:06:52.780 --> 1:06:56.500 where her dorm room is. She instantly spots the silver S. 1:06:56.640 --> 1:06:59.450 Cromwell box and the missing key. She rushes to open 1:06:59.470 --> 1:07:03.110 it and finds nothing. So she must still have the 1:07:03.130 --> 1:07:05.770 gift on her. And then Splendora appears and knows Marnie 1:07:05.790 --> 1:07:08.150 is a Cromwell from the future. She reveals her glowing 1:07:08.190 --> 1:07:11.110 red amulet necklace is the gift. Marnie wants the power, 1:07:11.210 --> 1:07:14.300 but Splendora warns her it's pretty serious. She wouldn't wish 1:07:14.340 --> 1:07:16.740 it on anyone and knows the Dominion wants to use her. 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:19.340 She doesn't even want to be queen. And she says 1:07:19.390 --> 1:07:21.370 she's made her decision. Tonight she will lock away the 1:07:21.430 --> 1:07:24.550 amulet forever and she won't even let Marnie borrow it. Instead, 1:07:25.050 --> 1:07:27.189 she puts Marnie under a trance, controlling her body, making 1:07:27.230 --> 1:07:29.310 her dance on command. And I'm not even going to 1:07:29.350 --> 1:07:32.140 ask you, Sabrina, because it was terrible dancing. Even I 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:34.260 knew that. Then there's a knock at the door. It's 1:07:34.300 --> 1:07:36.620 time for the coronation. She continues to ignore the pressure 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:38.760 and says she doesn't want to destroy the amulet. 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:41.460 It's too important. And also her middle name is Agatha. 1:07:41.800 --> 1:07:43.370 Wait, what? 1:07:43.990 --> 1:07:45.850 She's Aggie Cromwell. 1:07:46.670 --> 1:07:48.770 Marnie tells Aggie all about her future and the idea 1:07:48.810 --> 1:07:51.110 that she is her grandma. As guards are sent to 1:07:51.160 --> 1:07:53.900 Splendora's room to get her, the Queen hides the amulet 1:07:53.940 --> 1:07:56.020 in the box and hands Marnie the key. They work 1:07:56.060 --> 1:07:58.020 together to open the portal, and before she walks through it, 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:01.220 Marnie leaves her with the massive pumpkin for Times Square. 1:08:01.540 --> 1:08:04.360 Or the Halloween Town Square, which is fun. Marnie returns 1:08:04.420 --> 1:08:06.680 to her present-day dorm room and rushes to the silver box. 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:08.750 She opens it to find the amulet, and then the 1:08:08.790 --> 1:08:11.730 Chancellor appears, and despite not being a Cromwell, is. 1:08:11.710 --> 1:08:19.130 Apparently able to just steal it from her. I thought 1:08:19.189 --> 1:08:20.310 only a Cromwell could wield it. 1:08:20.710 --> 1:08:21.230 Exactly. 1:08:21.310 --> 1:08:21.570 Yep. 1:08:21.770 --> 1:08:27.930 I thought the same thing. I was like, wait. No 1:08:28.030 --> 1:08:31.530 one can possess... I mean, is it the... Okay. 1:08:31.570 --> 1:08:35.870 Oh, it gets worse. It gets way worse. Then Marnie... 1:08:35.340 --> 1:08:37.030 They need Marnie to be there for just a few 1:08:37.060 --> 1:08:40.519 more hours because once the Halloween party starts, Halloween Town 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:42.760 will be theirs and they will control her by threatening 1:08:42.800 --> 1:08:45.020 her brother. So that's the deal. You're going to do 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.420 what we want or we're going to hurt your brother. 1:08:47.100 --> 1:08:49.530 Which would make Total sense, unless you have an amulet 1:08:49.550 --> 1:08:54.020 that controls other people. Marnie runs into Ethan and apologizes. 1:08:54.080 --> 1:08:55.889 He was right about the Dominion, but he's over it. 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:58.510 He's more concerned that Dylan is in full servant mode 1:08:58.530 --> 1:09:00.560 at the sisters party when she arrives to free her 1:09:00.600 --> 1:09:02.580 brother of the spell it's even worse than she thought 1:09:02.620 --> 1:09:05.000 they turned him into a dog who she can't even 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:06.920 catch up to defeated she begs for the help of 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:09.830 her mom and magically she arrives she has been waiting 1:09:10.090 --> 1:09:13.170 for this call the ceremony is about to begin and 1:09:13.210 --> 1:09:15.580 they can't find the sisters or Dylan the dog Marnie 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:17.900 can't believe she fell for all this. Gwen uses Aggie's 1:09:17.939 --> 1:09:20.130 witch mirror to find Dylan locked away by the Sinisters, 1:09:20.250 --> 1:09:23.250 and without any warning, they're magically transported to him. She's 1:09:23.270 --> 1:09:26.450 greeted by the Chancellor and Silas, with Ethan, who they've 1:09:26.470 --> 1:09:29.470 been tracking to lure her in, and it worked. Marnie 1:09:29.490 --> 1:09:31.670 just has to work with them, and everyone will be fine. 1:09:32.430 --> 1:09:35.229 She secretly turns on her mirror bracelet and broadcasts their 1:09:35.260 --> 1:09:38.160 conversation to her mom and Anissa. The Chancellor demands she 1:09:38.220 --> 1:09:40.839 wears the amulet to take over Halloween Town with the Dominion, 1:09:40.939 --> 1:09:43.340 or her brother stays a dog permanently. She agrees to 1:09:43.380 --> 1:09:45.490 do it. but needs time and her best friend to 1:09:45.530 --> 1:09:48.270 get ready. Why not just ask for the amulet, put 1:09:48.310 --> 1:09:53.009 it on, and then control the Dominion? Now you're in control. 1:09:53.410 --> 1:09:55.710 You can control anybody. You've got the power that no 1:09:55.750 --> 1:09:58.020 one else has. Now turn my brother back into a dog. 1:09:58.300 --> 1:10:02.189 Now get into this mirror. Now the movie's over. Why? 1:10:03.020 --> 1:10:05.980 It's the power that only she can wield that controls 1:10:06.180 --> 1:10:07.640 other people. Yeah. 1:10:07.780 --> 1:10:10.150 How is that not the end of the movie? Give 1:10:10.189 --> 1:10:11.110 me the, sure, you got it. 1:10:11.110 --> 1:10:12.830 Give me the amulet. All right, there we go. All right, 1:10:12.870 --> 1:10:14.410 now I'm in control of all of you guys. Turn 1:10:14.450 --> 1:10:16.740 him back. Hey, there you go. Good to see you again, Dylan. 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:19.460 Everybody hop in this mirror. Mouth off, we're going to 1:10:19.500 --> 1:10:24.580 a party. I don't, none of this makes any sense. 1:10:25.420 --> 1:10:26.730 It just doesn't make any sense. 1:10:26.939 --> 1:10:30.670 You have the power to control everybody. And so what 1:10:30.750 --> 1:10:33.330 power do they have over you? Literally none. They have 1:10:33.550 --> 1:10:36.450 no power over you whatsoever whatsoever. You are the only 1:10:36.530 --> 1:10:38.580 one that can wield the power to control people. They've 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.179 made that. That's one of the few rules they've made 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:43.700 is that you now have the power to control everybody. 1:10:43.820 --> 1:10:46.000 So what the hell is going on? 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:47.140 Yeah. 1:10:47.700 --> 1:10:51.680 Okay. It doesn't make any sense. The Chancellor demands she 1:10:51.700 --> 1:10:53.820 wear the amulet to take over Halloween Town with the Dominion. 1:10:53.880 --> 1:10:55.640 Her brother stays a dog. She agrees to it but 1:10:55.660 --> 1:10:58.420 needs time and her best friend to get ready. Silas 1:10:58.439 --> 1:11:01.000 agrees to her demand and soon after, it's party time. 1:11:01.100 --> 1:11:03.200 Gwen reunites with her son, the dog, and now everyone's 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:05.810 together for the big night. The Dominion counts down to 1:11:05.850 --> 1:11:09.190 midnight and Marnie has them change back her brother. With 1:11:09.210 --> 1:11:11.310 just minutes left, it's time to receive the gift and 1:11:11.330 --> 1:11:13.450 become the greatest witch of all time. She's announced as 1:11:13.470 --> 1:11:15.370 the queen at the stroke of midnight and commands all 1:11:15.410 --> 1:11:17.769 the townspeople to become her slaves. She starts with her 1:11:17.790 --> 1:11:20.809 mom and brother. Silas loves what he's seeing, but as 1:11:20.870 --> 1:11:23.640 it progresses, Marnie yells, Now, Anissa! And her friend spits 1:11:23.720 --> 1:11:25.840 out some purple smoke from her genie lamp that steals 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:26.920 the amulet right off her neck. 1:11:27.990 --> 1:11:28.790 I just throw it to her. 1:11:28.970 --> 1:11:30.830 Now out of her hand, she commands the gift to 1:11:30.850 --> 1:11:33.510 be destroyed. A fight breaks out between both sides, turning 1:11:33.530 --> 1:11:36.570 the lamp and thus the gift into fireworks. The townspeople 1:11:36.610 --> 1:11:39.180 love the display, not knowing what really happened. That's all right. 1:11:39.260 --> 1:11:39.940 They're not the only ones. 1:11:40.020 --> 1:11:40.900 I don't know what happened either. 1:11:41.340 --> 1:11:44.100 And the Dominion runs off, only to be stopped by 1:11:44.140 --> 1:11:48.780 Professor Periwinkle, who's actually Agent Periwinkle of the Anti-Dominion League. 1:11:48.900 --> 1:11:52.860 Thanks for jumping in when everything's been saved, Periwinkle. She 1:11:52.930 --> 1:11:55.509 worked with the Gargoyles to fool their plans. After 10 1:11:55.510 --> 1:11:58.429 centuries of undercover work, She strips them of their power 1:11:58.530 --> 1:12:01.710 and arrests them into the witch's mirror. Now alone, Marnie 1:12:01.729 --> 1:12:03.689 tells Gwen and her brother that her family is the 1:12:03.750 --> 1:12:06.770 real gift and she'll never be without them. Marnie apologizes 1:12:06.790 --> 1:12:08.930 to Anissa for destroying the lamp, but hopes she'll be 1:12:08.990 --> 1:12:11.330 her roommate in the queen's room. Then she gets some 1:12:11.370 --> 1:12:13.650 time alone with Ethan, who is very impressed with what 1:12:13.689 --> 1:12:16.570 she did for the people of Halloweentown. He actually renounced 1:12:16.610 --> 1:12:18.809 his own power when his dad got busted. He's just 1:12:18.850 --> 1:12:21.700 immortal now. Any magic she's seen him do was a trick. 1:12:22.020 --> 1:12:25.140 He apologizes for lying and demands the sinister sisters apologize 1:12:25.180 --> 1:12:27.200 to Dylan. They try to control him again, but it's 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:30.200 not working. Their entire family has been stripped to powers. 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:33.509 They are also now mortals. Gwen finally admits that Marnie 1:12:33.590 --> 1:12:36.210 is on her own. This is her life, and she 1:12:36.250 --> 1:12:38.350 doesn't plan on getting in the way. And there's only 1:12:38.410 --> 1:12:40.269 one thing left to do now. She hands over some 1:12:40.310 --> 1:12:44.280 magical flowers, actual magical flowers to Ethan, and their relationship 1:12:44.500 --> 1:12:45.620 has begun. 1:12:46.300 --> 1:12:47.180 Dylan's bothered, though. 1:12:47.220 --> 1:12:49.320 He tells his mom, how can the amulet be destroyed? 1:12:49.340 --> 1:12:52.090 It was a precious Cromwell heirloom. But Gwen has a theory. 1:12:52.290 --> 1:12:54.510 She thinks Marty would have given it to someone else 1:12:54.530 --> 1:12:55.510 she trusts absolutely. 1:12:55.530 --> 1:12:57.170 And so later Dylan is studying. 1:12:57.210 --> 1:12:59.250 He opens one of his textbooks to find the amulet. 1:12:59.290 --> 1:13:02.130 That seems like a safe place. Cut and burnt into pages. 1:13:02.189 --> 1:13:04.910 So that's good. It's also burning the pages. He stares 1:13:04.950 --> 1:13:06.750 at it and grows, decides to hide it in his 1:13:06.830 --> 1:13:09.939 library forever. And that's our movie. And I think they 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:11.360 wanted to do the next one was going to be 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:21.360 about Dylan. Yeah. Can we please do some real reviews? 1:13:21.460 --> 1:13:25.760 And thank God I've got the one star. This is 1:13:25.800 --> 1:13:30.639 from Art Talent Fairy. Oh, my God. All in caps. 1:13:31.580 --> 1:13:34.800 What in hell's name has happened to Halloween Town? It's 1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:38.420 transformed into this massive downtown Chicago area. And from out 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:42.139 of nowhere, here's a witch university and Marnie. A bunch 1:13:42.180 --> 1:13:45.350 of exclamation points and question marks? What the hell happened 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:47.950 to our beloved Marnie? Bull crap! Giant letters. 1:13:48.250 --> 1:13:48.950 Exclamation points. 1:13:49.430 --> 1:13:51.370 She was probably just sick of Disney and their horrible 1:13:51.430 --> 1:13:54.050 famous sequels. The first two films were great, the third 1:13:54.070 --> 1:13:56.150 was kind of pushing it, but this is no excuse. 1:13:56.610 --> 1:13:58.780 I'm a big fan of Halloween Town and all, and 1:13:58.820 --> 1:14:01.059 have loved the movie since I was a kid, but seriously, 1:14:01.500 --> 1:14:04.580 Disney doesn't understand the concept of you can have too 1:14:04.620 --> 1:14:06.140 much of a good thing. One star! 1:14:07.540 --> 1:14:10.269 What do you got, Sabrina? We found a five star somehow. 1:14:10.350 --> 1:14:10.750 Love it. 1:14:11.630 --> 1:14:14.150 Somehow. This is by Hannah Carr. 1:14:14.790 --> 1:14:17.750 Return to Halloween Town was a lot better than the 1:14:17.830 --> 1:14:20.360 other three movies because in the first one, she used 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:23.260 magic without even thinking about it. But in this one, 1:14:23.900 --> 1:14:26.559 she's out with you to learn her powers and make 1:14:26.620 --> 1:14:29.480 them more powerful. So if she used them without thinking, 1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:31.460 it would be a waste of the school's time. 1:14:32.380 --> 1:14:36.450 Plus, you don't need Kimberly J. Brown to make this movie. 1:14:36.510 --> 1:14:37.330 This is an idiot. 1:14:37.490 --> 1:14:44.390 Sorry. Hannah Carson, poor eight-year-old girl, listening to Joe from 1:14:44.410 --> 1:14:46.170 the Cheetah Girls go, she thinks I'm an idiot. 1:14:49.310 --> 1:14:51.070 Damn it, Sabrina, pull it together. 1:14:53.390 --> 1:14:55.560 Yes, it would have been nice, but that's like saying 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:59.340 if Paula Abdul left American Idol, then it would be ruined. 1:14:59.460 --> 1:15:02.200 If you watched American Idol for the scene, the judges 1:15:02.300 --> 1:15:06.520 don't matter. So I give Return to Halloween Town two 1:15:06.700 --> 1:15:07.479 thumbs up. 1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:08.740 Wrong. 1:15:09.140 --> 1:15:10.520 Wrong, Hannah Carr. 1:15:10.540 --> 1:15:11.760 Sorry, Hannah Carr. 1:15:11.780 --> 1:15:14.849 Sorry if you're young. I was thinking you were an adult. Well, 1:15:14.860 --> 1:15:16.100 you probably are an adult now. 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:19.170 She's probably an adult now. Yeah, you're probably fine. And 1:15:19.270 --> 1:15:21.269 we are now, of course, to Sabrina's favorite part of 1:15:21.290 --> 1:15:23.880 the program. That is our feature game. Who are we 1:15:23.920 --> 1:15:28.580 playing with today? Michaela. This game is called Back Again. 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:31.620 For the fourth installment of the Halloween Town franchise, Disney 1:15:31.640 --> 1:15:34.439 Channel went with the name Return to Halloween Town. In 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:36.370 its honor, we're going to be given a famous example 1:15:36.390 --> 1:15:37.790 of someone returning. 1:15:37.810 --> 1:15:39.130 Okay. 1:15:39.530 --> 1:15:41.390 We have to guess who made that return. Three out 1:15:41.410 --> 1:15:42.009 of five wins. 1:15:42.530 --> 1:15:44.710 Okay. Here we go. Number one. 1:15:44.729 --> 1:15:46.349 Oh, so it's just random stuff. 1:15:46.650 --> 1:15:50.190 His infamous return to sports involved a full-page advertisement in 1:15:50.250 --> 1:15:53.769 a local newspaper that read, I'm back. Is it A, 1:15:53.850 --> 1:15:57.300 Tiger Woods, B, Magic Johnson, C, Michael Jordan, or D, 1:15:57.380 --> 1:16:02.280 Tom Brady? Ooh. I kind of want, so here's, if 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:06.170 I'm working this out with you, Michael Jordan, I think, 1:16:06.189 --> 1:16:08.250 because he left to play baseball. 1:16:10.450 --> 1:16:11.590 I forgot about that. 1:16:11.610 --> 1:16:13.689 Yeah. Most people did. I think Michael Jordan probably forgot 1:16:13.729 --> 1:16:19.370 about that too. Number 45. Yeah. So maybe, maybe. Yeah. 1:16:19.550 --> 1:16:19.830 Okay. 1:16:19.870 --> 1:16:21.790 I'm back. I think that's, that's good. 1:16:22.689 --> 1:16:23.490 See Michael Jordan. 1:16:23.850 --> 1:16:25.450 You're right. Yay. 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:26.080 There you go. 1:16:27.140 --> 1:16:29.820 I've been called the Michael Jordan of DCOM recaps. 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:32.260 That's not true. 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:34.260 If anything, you're Jordan. 1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:37.139 I'm Pippin. So number two. One of the most popular 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:39.200 entertainers of all time had a major lull in her 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:42.559 career until a show that helped make auto-tune popular brought 1:16:42.600 --> 1:16:43.260 her back to the. 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:44.189 Top of the charts. 1:16:44.620 --> 1:16:49.290 Cher. B, Cher. 1:16:49.630 --> 1:16:53.710 Wow. Here are the guesses. A, Tina Turner. B, Cheer. 1:16:53.950 --> 1:16:56.429 I think that's how you say her name. It's Cheer. C, 1:16:56.570 --> 1:16:59.870 Bette Midler. Or D, Donna Summer. Now, you answered so 1:17:00.030 --> 1:17:03.860 fast and so violently. I'm going with B, Cher. 1:17:05.610 --> 1:17:12.280 Do you believe in love after love? Sabrina's correct. Yay! 1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:15.979 Oh, my God. Thank you, Sabrina. Okay, number three. This 1:17:16.040 --> 1:17:18.760 band had one of the most high-profile breakups in music, 1:17:18.939 --> 1:17:23.700 only to have a surprise reunion at 2023's Coachella. I'm kidding. 1:17:23.720 --> 1:17:24.340 It's Coachella. 1:17:24.420 --> 1:17:26.220 I know. 1:17:26.220 --> 1:17:29.360 2023? I think I know who this is. Is it A, Oasis, B, 1:17:29.390 --> 1:17:34.670 The New Radicals, C, NSYNC, or D, Blink-182? Didn't NSYNC 1:17:34.790 --> 1:17:35.290 get together? 1:17:36.050 --> 1:17:39.180 No, not at Coachella. I want to see, say, D 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:42.450 Blink 182. They didn't break up, did they? 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:45.120 Did they? I don't know. 1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:45.680 They broke up? 1:17:46.060 --> 1:17:46.979 For a very long time. 1:17:47.140 --> 1:17:47.679 Did they really? 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:50.979 They still don't even have the lead singer in their band. 1:17:51.180 --> 1:17:53.500 He's back, Sabrina. He is back? 1:17:53.820 --> 1:17:55.920 Yeah. Wasn't that Tom DeLonge, the guy who warned us 1:17:55.939 --> 1:17:57.599 about aliens for years and turned out to be right? 1:17:57.720 --> 1:17:59.469 Aliens are freaking real. Tom DeLonge knew what was up. 1:18:00.610 --> 1:18:02.519 Is that what you think? I honestly don't know. 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:06.600 I feel like they kind of reunited, but I don't know. 1:18:06.700 --> 1:18:10.700 Blink 182. Well, NSYNC, they never got NSYNC. Didn't NSYNC 1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:13.219 get together at some point where it was a Justin 1:18:13.260 --> 1:18:15.640 concert and NSYNC came together on stage and that's why 1:18:15.740 --> 1:18:17.800 everybody was like, oh my God, they're going to tour again. 1:18:17.820 --> 1:18:21.059 And then they never did. I thought that was a thing. 1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:24.929 It did happen, but was it 2000? 1:18:24.930 --> 1:18:27.290 The year is what's throwing me off. 1:18:28.070 --> 1:18:30.530 I'm going to go with Blink. Do you want to 1:18:30.570 --> 1:18:31.270 go with NSYNC? 1:18:32.090 --> 1:18:33.930 No, I'm going to go. 1:18:33.950 --> 1:18:36.760 You're going to go with one that we didn't even 1:18:36.780 --> 1:18:37.440 talk about. 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:38.860 I'm going to go with Oasis. I'm going to go 1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:40.580 with Oasis. I'm going to go with A-Oasis who are 1:18:40.620 --> 1:18:42.260 on tour right now, but had a massive breakup. So 1:18:42.300 --> 1:18:43.990 I'm going to go with A Oasis. And you're going 1:18:44.010 --> 1:18:44.610 to go with Blink-182? 1:18:44.630 --> 1:18:46.680 Yeah, I guess so. 1:18:47.229 --> 1:18:54.900 Sabrina is correct. Wow. All the small things. Yes. Number four. 1:18:54.979 --> 1:18:58.780 With a Hollywood career of many decades, her second act 1:18:58.840 --> 1:19:01.420 included projects like Hot in Cleveland, The Proposal, and SNL. 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:02.280 Is it A. 1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:03.420 Betty White, B. 1:19:03.470 --> 1:19:05.330 Joan Rivers, C. Jane Fonda, or D. 1:19:05.370 --> 1:19:09.450 Lily Tomlin? It's A. Betty White. Wait. 1:19:10.740 --> 1:19:11.759 I have to read that again. 1:19:12.620 --> 1:19:14.710 With a hollywood career of many decades her second act 1:19:14.750 --> 1:19:17.690 included projects like hot in cleveland the proposal and snl. 1:19:18.310 --> 1:19:20.210 Yeah it's a betty white yeah. 1:19:21.590 --> 1:19:25.080 Correct yes i think we won i'm like jane fonda 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:27.439 like she wasn't hot in cleveland oh i guess that's 1:19:27.460 --> 1:19:28.900 the whole point okay. 1:19:30.340 --> 1:19:32.120 Yes the other ones are incorrect are you just picking 1:19:32.140 --> 1:19:33.460 up the game now it's like our 400th episode. 1:19:35.270 --> 1:19:35.730 Jeez. 1:19:36.130 --> 1:19:38.650 Thank you, Michaela or Michaela. And now can we do 1:19:38.670 --> 1:19:39.910 a Sabrina Seas? 1:19:40.330 --> 1:19:43.330 Sabrina Seas. 1:19:44.270 --> 1:19:45.190 Absolutely. 1:19:45.210 --> 1:19:48.900 OK, we you didn't talk about this, but we did 1:19:48.939 --> 1:19:51.460 talk about it last time quite a bit that the 1:19:51.500 --> 1:19:54.580 house we got another upgrade in the house. I first 1:19:54.660 --> 1:19:56.900 noticed the kitchen and then all of a sudden was like, nope, 1:19:57.000 --> 1:19:59.590 it's the whole house. But now it makes sense because 1:19:59.750 --> 1:20:02.450 she's a real estate agent. So maybe she's just like, 1:20:02.530 --> 1:20:05.089 that was kind of like, I lived in like 11 1:20:05.090 --> 1:20:07.250 houses by the time I got to high school. 1:20:08.070 --> 1:20:09.219 So maybe that's what it is. 1:20:09.300 --> 1:20:10.020 Okay, fair enough. 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:11.860 She's a real estate agent. So I guess we got 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:14.240 the answer there. It wasn't the bank. It was a 1:20:14.260 --> 1:20:15.040 real estate agent. 1:20:17.860 --> 1:20:22.280 Her brother's voice drop happened significantly. 1:20:22.620 --> 1:20:25.269 You didn't mention that either. I thought you would be like, okay, 1:20:25.330 --> 1:20:26.990 he's definitely like, finish. 1:20:27.170 --> 1:20:28.590 He's a man now, right? 1:20:28.610 --> 1:20:33.440 He's a man now. You know, I did think he, 1:20:33.620 --> 1:20:34.860 I really liked his character. 1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:37.240 I thought like he was a really fun character to 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:40.219 be on the, like to, to be the supporting role for, 1:20:40.420 --> 1:20:40.900 for her. 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:42.660 I just wish they did something better with it. 1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:43.460 Yeah. 1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:48.260 I feel like, especially knowing that, that Marnie, that like they, 1:20:49.260 --> 1:20:52.050 then it's like, have him be the main thing. If 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:54.389 that's what they were going to try to do later on. Why, 1:20:54.430 --> 1:20:58.349 why do four with her? we wouldn't even need a cousin. 1:20:58.550 --> 1:20:59.110 Could have been him. 1:21:01.860 --> 1:21:06.340 Is Scarlett on the top five of our DCOM jerks? 1:21:07.300 --> 1:21:08.219 She's pretty mean. 1:21:08.300 --> 1:21:09.180 Yeah, she's pretty mean. 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:11.850 She could be on the list of bullies, definitely. Because 1:21:11.870 --> 1:21:16.140 she's also like, she'll like, physically harm you. 1:21:16.380 --> 1:21:18.139 You know what I mean? 1:21:18.180 --> 1:21:20.740 That's, that's rare. Like we have some jerks, but she's 1:21:20.780 --> 1:21:23.160 like throwing people across the quad and stuff like that. 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:26.860 And like ruthless, like ruthless. I felt like she was. 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:27.479 Yeah. 1:21:28.850 --> 1:21:33.550 Um, we didn't get a bus. 1:21:33.650 --> 1:21:36.850 I realized this in this movie, we didn't get a 1:21:36.930 --> 1:21:40.889 bus in this movie or Halloween three. 1:21:41.150 --> 1:21:41.349 No. 1:21:42.410 --> 1:21:45.589 And I feel like that was a big, um, thing 1:21:46.260 --> 1:21:48.860 for the Halloween like bus situation I feel like that 1:21:48.900 --> 1:21:52.860 could have been added in especially since it's like the return. 1:21:53.380 --> 1:21:54.880 Um and then oh. 1:21:56.860 --> 1:22:00.059 One part that threw me off um that I I 1:22:00.140 --> 1:22:03.580 didn't really get was it was just I guess because 1:22:04.050 --> 1:22:06.430 they were trying to find and pull other types of 1:22:06.470 --> 1:22:09.810 magic but when she did the like Samantha from Bewitched 1:22:09.930 --> 1:22:11.650 Nose Twinkle I was. 1:22:11.570 --> 1:22:13.760 Like I don't know. 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:15.640 I just was kind of like, I don't know. I 1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:17.300 felt like they were reaching a little bit and that 1:22:17.340 --> 1:22:19.180 threw me off. And then the last thing was that 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:23.639 we didn't highlight was the money that was put towards 1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:25.979 getting a Jesse McCartney song. I feel like that was 1:22:26.020 --> 1:22:28.500 like a big get for this movie. 1:22:28.540 --> 1:22:29.640 There's a Jesse McCartney song? 1:22:29.700 --> 1:22:31.960 It's the song when they were flying around and having 1:22:32.020 --> 1:22:37.050 like their little romantic broom flight. That's when we got 1:22:37.060 --> 1:22:39.010 the Jesse McCartney song. And it's a good song and 1:22:39.050 --> 1:22:40.450 it's actually a recognizable song. 1:22:40.930 --> 1:22:42.290 Jesse McCartney. So that's what I meant. 1:22:42.330 --> 1:22:44.870 Like, Ooh, we're spending money on getting like this little 1:22:45.390 --> 1:22:46.270 like soundbite. 1:22:46.439 --> 1:22:48.900 Now it's come to the point in our program where 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:52.280 we have to score the last film that we have. Okay, 1:22:52.920 --> 1:22:54.019 here we go. We're going to go one. 1:22:54.040 --> 1:22:57.140 This might be a harsh day. We're going to go 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:58.250 one to 10. 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:01.270 Here are the options. We have a one to 10 grandma, 1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:06.010 Augie dismembered heads, one to 10 holograms, one to 10 1:23:06.010 --> 1:23:10.660 wealthy and powerful warlocks, magic simps, One to 10 instant 1:23:10.680 --> 1:23:11.380 real estate agents. 1:23:12.180 --> 1:23:15.120 One to 10 trolls and hoodies. One to 10 G units. 1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:16.580 One to 10. 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:20.000 The M words. Or one to 10 mere mortal smells. 1:23:20.100 --> 1:23:22.240 I'd like to add one to 10. What the is 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:26.520 up with this script? But I'm going to let you 1:23:26.560 --> 1:23:27.320 pick which one we have. 1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:28.600 Oh, man. 1:23:28.620 --> 1:23:29.620 I think. 1:23:30.620 --> 1:23:35.840 I don't know. I don't want to do the scripts one. 1:23:36.140 --> 1:23:36.440 Okay. 1:23:37.470 --> 1:23:40.530 We'll go with. G units. Cause it is kind of 1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:43.130 funny that Disney was. 1:23:42.979 --> 1:23:44.059 Like G unit. 1:23:44.080 --> 1:23:46.660 Do you remember, do you know what G units from? No, 1:23:47.060 --> 1:23:50.979 it's from, um, is it 50 cent? It goes G unit. 1:23:51.240 --> 1:23:54.160 It's like a, it's funny that they, it's like a, uh, 1:23:54.260 --> 1:23:56.400 like a rapper thing. So it's kind of funny that 1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:57.860 Disney went with that. 1:23:58.060 --> 1:23:58.520 Okay. Yes. 1:23:58.540 --> 1:23:58.920 Apparently. 1:23:58.939 --> 1:23:59.219 Yes. 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:01.620 According to producer Lisa, Lisa, that was his rap group. 1:24:01.860 --> 1:24:02.400 G unit. 1:24:02.780 --> 1:24:03.320 Yeah. 1:24:03.420 --> 1:24:08.020 Okay. Nice. All right. Uh, I think you go first 1:24:08.060 --> 1:24:11.100 this time. Didn't I go first last time? 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:11.820 Yes. 1:24:12.140 --> 1:24:12.979 OK. All right. 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:13.280 Good. 1:24:13.300 --> 1:24:13.940 Set the tone. 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:18.420 I feel like this is not a surprise to the listeners. 1:24:19.460 --> 1:24:23.000 I did not love this movie. I kind of set 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:25.970 it up for myself. I tried so hard to be 1:24:26.010 --> 1:24:29.350 supportive and like wanting to like, you know, finish out this. 1:24:29.430 --> 1:24:33.410 Like I said, finish out this franchise on a good note. unfortunately, 1:24:33.470 --> 1:24:35.030 this movie just didn't do it for me. 1:24:35.170 --> 1:24:37.470 I was so confused. My brain was working. 1:24:37.310 --> 1:24:40.980 Way too hard to be watching a movie for children. 1:24:40.990 --> 1:24:42.920 Yeah, exactly. 1:24:43.060 --> 1:24:46.040 It was like, dude, this is just too much. I 1:24:46.060 --> 1:24:48.979 don't think, I mean, if I'm confused, what would an eight-year-old, 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:49.820 nine-year-old be? 1:24:49.939 --> 1:24:50.900 Or would they get it? 1:24:50.979 --> 1:24:53.100 Maybe they would get it. And I'm too old. I 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:53.439 don't know. 1:24:53.900 --> 1:24:56.040 But for me, it didn't work. There were too many 1:24:56.100 --> 1:25:02.370 back and forths. It was a hard miss. Again, no, like, 1:25:03.460 --> 1:25:07.240 negative nod towards the actress that got this opportunity. It's 1:25:07.300 --> 1:25:10.420 not about that. It's about feeling like the choice of 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:16.170 continuing to keep the character that's not the original character 1:25:16.330 --> 1:25:18.370 as the focal point of this movie just was a 1:25:18.410 --> 1:25:19.390 hard miss for me. 1:25:19.770 --> 1:25:20.220 And I. 1:25:21.410 --> 1:25:23.950 you know, didn't think I was going to go under 1:25:24.030 --> 1:25:25.330 a five, but I am. 1:25:25.330 --> 1:25:28.479 Hitting this with a 4.5 G unit. 1:25:28.729 --> 1:25:34.100 G units. Okay. I, I think the G, uh, in 1:25:34.140 --> 1:25:38.060 that G unit for you should be generous. Um, really 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:39.040 with the 4.5. 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:42.180 I think the worst I've ever given. I don't think 1:25:42.220 --> 1:25:43.540 I've gone below a 4.5. 1:25:43.540 --> 1:25:46.139 Amazing. I'm going to rip the out of this movie. 1:25:46.860 --> 1:25:49.220 I'm sorry. No, this movie was a miss for me 1:25:49.300 --> 1:25:53.360 on everything except special effects. And the cast. I never 1:25:53.380 --> 1:25:56.990 blame the cast. Unless somebody gives a dreadfully awful performance, 1:25:57.030 --> 1:26:00.850 which nobody did, I don't blame the cast. These are 1:26:00.890 --> 1:26:03.750 young actors or veteran actors that come in. They do 1:26:03.770 --> 1:26:05.390 a project. Some of them are good. Some of them 1:26:05.410 --> 1:26:06.930 are bad. We all do that as actors. It is 1:26:06.970 --> 1:26:10.750 what it is. Nobody's performance ruined this movie in any way, shape, 1:26:10.810 --> 1:26:13.710 or form. The direction didn't ruin this movie in any way, shape, 1:26:13.770 --> 1:26:17.360 or form. The special effects were great. That's why it 1:26:17.420 --> 1:26:19.000 is worthy of three awards. 1:26:21.350 --> 1:26:22.010 3G units. 1:26:22.510 --> 1:26:27.090 I'm sorry. When you take the lead character that you've had, 1:26:27.189 --> 1:26:29.930 and again, I'm biased. I'm friends with Kimberly. She was 1:26:29.970 --> 1:26:32.550 at my birthday party. I really like Kimberly. I like 1:26:32.570 --> 1:26:35.160 her husband a lot. But this really has nothing to 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:38.840 do with the friendship. No joke. You can't keep it 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:42.400 the same character and recast it and expect, A, everybody 1:26:42.439 --> 1:26:43.020 to just buy it. 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:43.460 Fine. 1:26:43.700 --> 1:26:45.560 If you have to do that, you did it wrong. 1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:47.660 But okay, you're already going to lose points for that. 1:26:48.520 --> 1:26:50.280 But then the story just makes no sense. 1:26:50.660 --> 1:26:50.900 Yeah. 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:55.380 I mean, it truly makes no sense what they're doing. 1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:58.540 They want her to open the box, but she can't 1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:00.800 use magic. So they have to manipulate her to use magic. 1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:02.500 But then in the scene later, they just bring her in. 1:27:02.660 --> 1:27:03.630 She legitimately can't do it. 1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:06.540 She just can't do it. Then they say, just use magic. 1:27:06.580 --> 1:27:08.099 So then they try it. Then they're like, you're not 1:27:08.140 --> 1:27:09.939 trying hard enough. You need to find the key. She 1:27:09.960 --> 1:27:11.520 goes and finds the key to get the power to 1:27:11.550 --> 1:27:17.370 control people. Why? So they can control her controlling people. 1:27:17.710 --> 1:27:21.059 You have the power to control people. You're in charge. 1:27:21.260 --> 1:27:24.620 None of this makes any sense to me. And I 1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:26.700 know people are going to think I'm being overly harsh. 1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:29.420 And in this case, I honestly don't care what other 1:27:29.460 --> 1:27:33.519 people think about my opinion. This movie, this movie was weird. 1:27:33.820 --> 1:27:36.599 It was just weird. It seemed like. 1:27:37.740 --> 1:27:38.400 And again, I try it. 1:27:38.890 --> 1:27:40.590 Writing a screenplay is not an easy thing to do. 1:27:40.630 --> 1:27:44.000 It's an incredibly difficult thing to do. It's even harder 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:46.599 when it's an existing IP and you're trying to make 1:27:46.640 --> 1:27:49.820 everybody happy. This movie seemed like there were 10 different 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:52.960 versions of this movie. They mashed them all together and 1:27:53.020 --> 1:27:55.500 whatever came out, they're like, now we're just shooting this. Yeah. 1:27:55.820 --> 1:27:58.229 And they ran out of time. They ran out of 1:27:58.270 --> 1:27:59.129 time for rewrites. 1:27:59.350 --> 1:28:04.290 Yeah. And one part completely contradicted the next part, which 1:28:04.330 --> 1:28:07.769 completely contradicted the next part. the love story aspect didn't 1:28:07.810 --> 1:28:10.189 make a whole lot of sense. Her best friend, she 1:28:10.210 --> 1:28:12.710 has almost no time with Anissa. That didn't make any, 1:28:12.890 --> 1:28:15.350 any real sense. The whole thing with her brother didn't 1:28:15.390 --> 1:28:17.550 make any real. I mean, it was just one kind 1:28:17.590 --> 1:28:20.330 of what, what story is this after another? 1:28:20.790 --> 1:28:21.849 Yeah, I'll go a little higher. 1:28:21.890 --> 1:28:26.450 I'll give it 3.5 G units, but that's, that's as 1:28:26.470 --> 1:28:27.790 high as I can go. This was just not a 1:28:27.810 --> 1:28:30.799 good movie. And it's such a shame because it is, 1:28:30.810 --> 1:28:33.350 but it's, it is because, Hey, look, the third one 1:28:33.390 --> 1:28:36.280 wasn't great. And we, and we, said that the third 1:28:36.300 --> 1:28:39.130 Halloween town wasn't great. But there was a familiarity and 1:28:39.150 --> 1:28:42.060 a comfort to it. the third Halloween Town. Right, right. 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.580 Where it was like you knew some of it going in. 1:28:44.620 --> 1:28:46.820 You knew kind of to expect going in. Hey, there's 1:28:46.860 --> 1:28:50.519 Marnie and she's snippy. And her and her grandmother together, 1:28:50.580 --> 1:28:53.290 that dynamic is so wonderful. And you get to see 1:28:53.350 --> 1:28:55.889 all this stuff. And Benny's back in this one. It's like, hey, 1:28:55.930 --> 1:28:57.790 we're going to. And then it was just like, what 1:28:57.890 --> 1:28:58.370 is this? 1:28:58.770 --> 1:28:58.850 Yeah. 1:28:58.870 --> 1:29:02.390 Yeah. So this one really, and again, talking to the, to, um, 1:29:02.950 --> 1:29:04.559 to Sophie last night where it was so funny where 1:29:04.570 --> 1:29:06.720 she's just like, what did they expect? Am I just 1:29:06.979 --> 1:29:09.740 supposed to not notice that they recast and I'm just 1:29:09.760 --> 1:29:12.160 supposed to be okay thinking this is now more like, 1:29:12.580 --> 1:29:14.240 and so other people feel this way too. 1:29:14.340 --> 1:29:15.900 And it wasn't just the recasting. 1:29:16.040 --> 1:29:18.850 It was just, it wasn't a great script. It just 1:29:18.900 --> 1:29:19.509 really wasn't. 1:29:19.950 --> 1:29:22.330 So that's it done about this. 1:29:22.610 --> 1:29:24.230 Bring all your hate comments, right? 1:29:24.250 --> 1:29:24.750 To Sabrina. 1:29:25.630 --> 1:29:30.269 Um, Because I'm not on social media yet. Yay. There 1:29:30.290 --> 1:29:30.570 you go. 1:29:30.689 --> 1:29:34.269 So I'm sorry. I apologize to all Halloween towners. 1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:35.309 I know. 1:29:35.340 --> 1:29:37.180 Because we loved it. 1:29:37.300 --> 1:29:39.740 The first two, you and I will argue back and 1:29:39.780 --> 1:29:41.940 forth which one was better because they're both so good. 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:45.880 They're so good. I know. It's just one of those things. And, 1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:46.460 you know. 1:29:48.640 --> 1:29:49.059 It happens. 1:29:49.140 --> 1:29:51.770 Sometimes they don't finish it correctly. 1:29:51.910 --> 1:29:55.030 They can't all be bangers. 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