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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. Buck an update on the

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Speaker 1: NCUBA Tournament, which I am watching out of the corner

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Speaker 1: of my eye, and I'm giving this update because it

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Speaker 1: happens to be the opening game of the NCAA Tournament

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Speaker 1: in cities where we have absolutely monstrous often number one

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Speaker 1: ratings nationwide, So that feels particularly unique a little bit. Crayton,

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Speaker 1: great city of Omaha. I hope to be back there

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Speaker 1: this summer to check out the College World Series again.

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Speaker 1: They are up forty nine to thirty four over Louisville.

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Speaker 1: Louisville also a city where we are regularly number one,

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Speaker 1: and breaking all of that down, it fills particularly apropos

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Speaker 1: that we would have Creighton and Louisville, two of the

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Speaker 1: cities that we are frequently number one overall in Omaha

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Speaker 1: and Louisville. So for the college basketball fans out there

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Speaker 1: at halftime, the NCAA Tournament underway and Creighton is up fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I remember we've had this discussion last year, Buck where

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Speaker 1: you said you never in your life had a tea

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Speaker 1: shirt let you watch the NCAA Tournament during a school.

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Speaker 2: Day, Clay.

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Speaker 1: When you start going into NC double A Clay mode,

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Speaker 1: it's you ever been around somebody when they just start

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Speaker 1: switching into a different language in front of you, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, I get it, You're allowed to speak your

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Speaker 1: own language. But you know I'm here too. I have

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Speaker 1: no Creighton, I have no idea what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: and no if remember New York City other than Saint

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Speaker 1: John's and I'm from Manhattan, and New York is really

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Speaker 1: five cities put together in a sense, like the boroughs

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Speaker 1: are all. Brooklyn would be the third largest city in

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Speaker 1: America if it was its own city.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that stat. That is a great stat

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Speaker 1: That's what you get when you live in New York

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Speaker 1: thirty something years. So yeah, Brooklyn after New York proper

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Speaker 1: and Los Angeles, it's bigger than Chicago. So that gives

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Speaker 1: you a sense of a bigodess. I just bring it up, Clay,

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Speaker 1: because NYU not an NC double A power Columbia University

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Speaker 1: not an NCAA powerhouse. So the college is that people

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Speaker 1: think of the most in Manhattan as the hometown dog,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, not contenders, so people don't pay much

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Speaker 1: attention to it, and you have amazing professional franchises everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's the other part of it, or at least Saint

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Speaker 2: john S would be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Has been brought back by Rick Bettino, who maybe the

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Speaker 1: greatest college basketball coach of the last forty years, and

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Speaker 1: he's filling up the garden, and so there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of enthusiasm about Saint John's. But I did think it

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Speaker 1: was interesting as I'm watching the scores and watching the

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Speaker 1: games underway. With that, the tournament started with two cities

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Speaker 1: we are frequently number one in so I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are probably paying attention in Omaha and

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Speaker 1: in Louisville to what's going to happen in that early matchup.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Also, by the way, a lot of brand new affiliates

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Speaker 2: We're number one all over.

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Speaker 1: The state of Indiana is underway right now as well,

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Speaker 1: So for the Purdue fans, you're up twenty two to

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Speaker 1: twenty one in buck You, I think one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest days at least four me in the eighties and

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Speaker 1: the nineties in public school in Nashville, we would regularly

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Speaker 1: have teachers roll in the television and they would let

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Speaker 1: us watch the NCAA tournament during the school day. So

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Speaker 1: I bet there are some parents out there and grandparents

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Speaker 1: who remember that happening. I bet there's also a lot

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Speaker 1: of you that maybe had a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: top Thursday Fridays where people start to get a little

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Speaker 1: throat can't make it in. So we appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you out there listening to us. Buck, I want to

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Speaker 1: keep hammering this because we talked about it a little

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Speaker 1: bit in the opening hour, We have talked about it

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Speaker 1: this week, but it has become clear that the resistance

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Speaker 1: not coming from Chuck Schumer or Hakeem Jeffries or anybody

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Speaker 1: kind of echoing what we were saying up on Fox News

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Speaker 2: Let me hit you with this.

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Speaker 1: In four sorry, eight years of Barack Obama as President

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Speaker 1: of the United States, there were twelve federal court injunctions

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Speaker 1: put in place against Barack Obama. Eight years twelve federal

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Speaker 1: court injunctions, Joe Biden, and we know he was flagrantly

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Speaker 1: violating the law on a regular basis, even bragging about

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Speaker 1: it sometimes. Four years, fourteen federal court injunctions. Trump has

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Speaker 1: been president for sixty days and there have now been

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Speaker 1: fifteen injunctions brought against President Trump. The resistance two point

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Speaker 1: zero is not the New York Times and the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post and MSNBC and CNN. It is not Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 1: It is not the leadership of the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 1: any way. It is the federal district court judges. I

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Speaker 1: mean again, this is an extraordinary stat I want to

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Speaker 1: understand it. Trump has already in sixty days, had more

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Speaker 1: federal court judges striking down what he's trying to do

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Speaker 1: than Obama did in eight years, and then Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: did in four years. And we've talked about this, buck

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Speaker 1: both Biden and Obama said, I have a great deal

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Speaker 1: of executive authority. I'm going to use my executive authority

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Speaker 1: as aggressively as I can. And they basically dared the

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Speaker 1: Pambondi is talking about that, she is certain stry something

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Speaker 1: else out there for the stats, because what they're going

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Speaker 1: to say is, but Trump is the most dictatorial and

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Speaker 1: he's hitler, and they're going to do the usual thing

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Speaker 1: that they always do. Keep in mind, we have data,

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Speaker 1: we have stats, we know what has happened with some

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Speaker 1: of these previous administrations. The Obama administration did terribly when

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Speaker 1: it came to going to the Supreme Court with this overreach.

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Speaker 1: The Obama administration was a particularly I'm trying to find

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Speaker 1: the number right now, but it was really low, meaning

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Speaker 1: that when when they finally got their way up to

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Speaker 1: to say it was like eleven out of fourteen times

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Speaker 1: or something. I'll check it out, but it definitely was

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Speaker 1: a case where he kept trying to do things that

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Speaker 1: not just one federal court judge, the entire Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: said you really can't do that. Yeah, no, I mean

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Speaker 1: I gave him had to do with he he decided

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Speaker 1: when they and it was in recess. Remember that STAS

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Speaker 1: I think you're in recess, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: do a recess appointment. That was a big one. The

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Speaker 1: And I saw our friend Stephen Miller, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's important. He says, Look, when five Supreme Court justices

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Speaker 1: decide what the law is, that's the law. But when

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Speaker 1: you have one of eight hundred federal District Court judges

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Speaker 1: trying to stop the President of the United States from

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Speaker 1: executing his authority, it is clear that that is not

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Speaker 1: intended to be a long term solution. It's just a

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Speaker 1: roadblock to keep Trump from being able to implement his agenda.

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Speaker 1: And that's what ag Pambondi said, Cut twenty.

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Speaker 3: We will appeal through the process, but we do anticipate

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Speaker 3: getting there quickly. Yes, we do need the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: We anticipate that because many of these lawsuits, of course,

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Speaker 3: are filed right here in DC. Many of these injunctions,

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Speaker 3: these liberal activist judges are based right here these judges

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Speaker 3: who have no right to control President Trump's agenda. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course we need the Supreme Court. We will get there,

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Speaker 3: We will get there fast, and we will prevail. Look

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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump has accomplished in the short time he's

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Speaker 3: been in office, it's remarkable. They can't stand it, they

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Speaker 3: can't handle it. He is saving our country. We are

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Speaker 3: going to protect Americans. We are going to make America

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Speaker 3: prosperous again and safe again.

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Speaker 2: She's been high or somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Obama lost at the Supreme Court for things that he

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Speaker 1: thought that he could do in the exactive branch forty

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Speaker 1: four times unanimously forty four to nine decisions against Obama

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Speaker 1: over his eight years. Think about that for a set.

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Speaker 2: Look, And let me just say this.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame any president, Democrat or Republican for trying

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Speaker 1: to use the absolute maximum amount of his power that

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Speaker 1: he can to implement the agenda that he was elected

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Speaker 1: to win and the idea that true. That's why I

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Speaker 1: think that the pushback because you'll hear, well, Trump's behaving

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Speaker 1: in a fundamentally unconstitutional white No. Look, what has happened

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Speaker 1: is these federal district court judges, they recognize the way

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Speaker 1: you get promoted, oftentimes the way you get onto the

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Speaker 1: Circuit court, and the way you put yourself in the

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Speaker 1: the thirteen circuit courts nationwide, which is a higher level

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Speaker 1: of judge, is by drawing attention to yourself as one

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Speaker 1: of the foremost opponents to Trump. Because Democrats are going

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Speaker 1: to have a president again at some point, and these

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Speaker 1: They're competing, that's all true. And what we are seeing

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Speaker 1: is a true end to the public's perception that the

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Speaker 1: judiciary is nonpartisan. And I know that we are told,

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Speaker 1: oh but we were told that about the media too

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Speaker 1: endlessly for our entire adult lives.

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Speaker 1: The journalists are just trying to bring you the facts.

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Speaker 1: the truth. And that was all a lie, the notion

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Speaker 1: that the judiciary is not a if it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: political instrument, why are Supreme Court confirmations an absolute slugfest,

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Speaker 1: particularly when the Democrats don't want somebody on. We can

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Speaker 1: all see what's gone on here, we all understand. And

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Speaker 1: the machinery of judicial confirmation, which by the way, Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell actually exceled that. Obama and Biden unfortunately got a

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Speaker 1: of judges through in twenty sixteen. But the machinery of

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Speaker 1: judicial confirmation is thought of as really political insurance, and

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Speaker 1: I think some would say as an extra layer of legislature,

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Speaker 1: depending if you're a Democrat, you certainly think of it

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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I think it's unfortunate. I'm hopeful. And

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Speaker 1: this is where I you know, I'm a lawyer, and

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Speaker 1: I try to speak in a favorable way. Buck shaking

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Speaker 1: his head, he's disappointed. This is where I hope that

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Speaker 1: actually the abortion decision of Dobbs, which took everything back

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Speaker 1: to the States, I am cautiously optimistic that Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade was such a litmus test case that it overshadowed

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Speaker 1: so many other aspects of what a Supreme Court justice

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Speaker 1: this could become a little bit less contentious of a process.

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Speaker 1: I may be wrong, that may be too positive of

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Speaker 1: a perspective on this, but the fact that you just

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Speaker 1: need a bare majority to get a Supreme Court justice

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Speaker 1: onto the bench. And I will say, I love your optimism,

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Speaker 1: but we just had to have the Court step in

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Speaker 1: to say you can't lock up a president because you

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Speaker 1: don't like what he did as president. So thankful they

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Speaker 1: A scary thing, okay, I mean, you know, we saved

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Speaker 1: We were just talking earlier in the program at the

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Speaker 6: They are interneral custodies. And then of course Jim Bosberg

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Speaker 6: ordering verbally for the Department of Justice and BHS to

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Speaker 6: return flights that were already in the air out of

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Speaker 6: US air space, very likely traveling over either Mexico or

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Speaker 6: Central America, ordering the return of those flights carrying known

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Speaker 6: illegal immigrants or suspected Venezuelan terrorist tied to that DA day.

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Speaker 6: Who do these judges think that they are? And so

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Speaker 6: now what Gosburg is doing is I think setting up

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Speaker 6: a kintunt trap because he was saying, well, I made

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Speaker 6: this verbal order, you should have turned the planes allow,

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Speaker 6: no planes should have taken off that day at all,

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Speaker 6: because I was holding this peering And this is a

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Speaker 6: temporary restraining order that he issued, actually two of them

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Speaker 6: on Saturday that left fourteen days and again preventing the

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Speaker 6: President and his team from executing his proclamation over the

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Speaker 6: weekend of the alien Enemies asks. So excuse me, this

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Speaker 6: is very reckless, very destructive, and dangerous. No one should

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Speaker 6: be defending what these judges are doing.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: Of course, all of these are going on appeel there's

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Speaker 6: oral arguments in the Venezuelan Paris case on Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 6: I'll be covering that live. But I'll tell you as

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Speaker 6: bad as I knew these judges were, and how they

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Speaker 6: just repeatedly denied to youerpoint due process for j Sixers,

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Speaker 6: refusing in every single case to move those trials out

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Speaker 6: of Washington, DC to now see them leap to the

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Speaker 6: rescue and allegedly protect the quote unquote due process rights

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Speaker 6: of illegal and suspected gang members from Venezuela that pose

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Speaker 6: a legitimate threat to this country, not that Jay Sixers did.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty head spending.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Julie Kelly. Julie, you mentioned the jan Sixers,

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Speaker 1: and when you first started coming on with US four

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Speaker 1: years ago, you were one of the very few people

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Speaker 1: out there actually shining a light on how.

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Speaker 2: They were being treated.

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Speaker 1: Given the Democrat obsession with January sixth and the years

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Speaker 1: that they spent on it. Are you somewhat surprised that

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Speaker 1: Trump came in immediately pardoned to every January sixer and

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Speaker 1: the story just vanished. I mean, isn't that kind of

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Speaker 1: interesting because there were all these arguments out there. Oh

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Speaker 1: if Trump pardons all the jan sixers. This will be

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Speaker 1: a constitutional and he did it, and no one even

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Speaker 1: mentions hardly January sixth anymore. Are you surprised at how

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Speaker 1: quickly it's kind of vanished?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I will say that I am. As you guys know,

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Speaker 6: I talked to the President a few days before inauguration day,

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Speaker 6: talked to him for at length about what had happened

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Speaker 6: to the j sixers, you know, the various part in proposals.

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Speaker 6: He expressed he was very committed to blanket pardon with

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Speaker 6: a few exceptions, and that's, of course exactly what he did.

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Speaker 6: And there was some noise about it for what a

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Speaker 6: week or ten days, and then has completely disappeared. And

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Speaker 6: the Democrats even want to forget about January sixth, I

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Speaker 6: think with Jamie Raskin said a few weeks ago, oh

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Speaker 6: can we stop talking about January sixth already?

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Speaker 2: It's really funny one, right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But yes, I am very surprised, but happily so.

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's great to see these people starting

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Speaker 6: to pick up the pieces of their lives. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I was reading one of the filings today in the

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Speaker 6: Venezuelan terrorism case, and these illegals have stables of lawyers

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Speaker 6: defending them and fighting the government on behalf of the

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Speaker 6: alleged rights of these illegals have, and it's really disturbing

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Speaker 6: that we found none of that for American citizens. Wrongly

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Speaker 6: Pross defeated for participating in the events of January sixth.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the co legal judicial system is so upside down.

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Speaker 1: You can kind just jump in really quick July to

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Speaker 1: say that from my understanding from friends in the legal world,

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Speaker 1: if you defend like if you would defend Osama bin Laden.

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Speaker 2: You obviously that won't happen.

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Speaker 1: But if someone could do that, that would be considered

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Speaker 1: a feather in their legal cap going forward. They could

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Speaker 1: say it's like John Adams defending the Red Coats like

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Speaker 1: everyone deserves. But no one felt that way in a

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Speaker 1: lot of the big law firms and in sort of

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Speaker 1: the big law world about j six Americans.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely not. Most of them defend relied on public defenders.

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Speaker 6: Some of those public defenders were very good, others were terrible,

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Speaker 6: and I saw I saw both sides to that. But

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Speaker 6: going back to Jeb Bosberg, I was in a sport

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Speaker 6: room in December, the week before Christmas. He put a

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Speaker 6: woman who went inside the capital for nine minutes, committed

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Speaker 6: no violence charge with four misdemeanors. He put her on

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Speaker 6: trial the week before Christmas, before DC jury jurors from

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Speaker 6: the city that had just voted ninety two percent for

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Speaker 6: Kamala Harris. He completely ignored her pleas to postpone the

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Speaker 6: trial until after the president was inaugurated, knowing that she

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Speaker 6: would be getting a pardon because of course she only

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Speaker 6: had misdemeanors, and he denied postponing that trial, put her

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Speaker 6: on trial for three days. She was immediately convicted by

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Speaker 6: the CDC jury. So that's the mindset of these judges.

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Speaker 6: No due process, no protection of constitutional rights for American

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Speaker 6: citizens because they're Trump supporters. But he swooped in Saturday

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Speaker 6: as soon as he possibly could, ordering planes to be

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Speaker 6: turned around carrying Venezuelan terrorists and now fighting the government

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Speaker 6: for disclosures details of those deportations. LIFs just I mean,

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Speaker 6: how can you how can it go? I want to

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Speaker 6: deal with someone like that, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up about the quality of

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Speaker 1: legal representation, because I remember this was one of the

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Speaker 1: first things we talked about with you Julie, was you

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Speaker 1: were raising money so that the lawyers could be better.

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Speaker 1: John Adams defended the Boston massacre British soldiers in a

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Speaker 1: pre revolutionary America. For people out there that have forgotten,

539
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Speaker 1: because it used to be a basically foundational belief of

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Speaker 1: lawyers that everybody deserved the best possible legal representation, even

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Speaker 1: people who were accused of heinous crimes. And to Buck's point,

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Speaker 1: and I know you saw this, Julie, everybody wants.

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Speaker 2: To line up.

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Speaker 1: I've got friends who worked on nine to eleven prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: The people who were involved in flying planes into our

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Speaker 1: buildings have elite representation. Look, I don't begrudge that, because

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Speaker 1: I think that is the American system of justice. But Julie,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of finish here, how many many elite

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Speaker 1: lawyers were willing to step forward and volunteer their time

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Speaker 1: to rep the J sixers.

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Speaker 6: There were no elite, white shoe law firms that stepped

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Speaker 6: up to defend a single J sixer.

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Speaker 5: Not one.

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Speaker 6: Again, there were some very good lawyers, some that were

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Speaker 6: retained privately, most that were court appointed or public defenders,

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Speaker 6: but not as single. You see all of these law

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Speaker 6: firms lined up not just defending these terrorists, but fighting

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Speaker 6: the Trump administration on anything. These are all big name

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Speaker 6: law firms. Now none none of them stepped up for

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Speaker 6: American citizens because they considered them terrorists. You know, the

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Speaker 6: Venezuelan gang members, attaches all over the place who have

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Speaker 6: suspected ties to TDA. They're not terrorists, they're victims. But

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Speaker 6: you walk inside the Capitol for nine minutes, commit no violence,

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Speaker 6: and you have the chief Judge of the DC District

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Speaker 6: Court putting you on trial in the most democratic city

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Speaker 6: in the country for a quick conviction. No, none of

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Speaker 6: them Did's so shame on these law firms. And this

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Speaker 6: is why I'm so glad to see the President doing

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Speaker 6: what he can to villify these law firms, strip them

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Speaker 6: up security clearances, access to document in buildings, and doing

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Speaker 6: yet damage to their business, because that's exactly what they deserve.

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Speaker 1: Julie, keep up the good work. Look forward to talking

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Speaker 1: to you again, and thank you for the last four years.

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00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: How awesome you've been talking to us and keeping us

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Speaker 1: updated on all this.

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Speaker 6: See you guys are awesome for always having me on.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's technically me, but we're we're good.

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Speaker 2: We're good. You know we passed.

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Speaker 1: We passed the ball back and forth here, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: That's just the nature live radio.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, H, I know you're fired up because there's

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Speaker 1: some incoming here. There's some incoming on the talkbacks. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many of these we need to get to.

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Speaker 1: We have a whole page of talkbacks of people saying

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Speaker 1: they don't want to hear anything more about March madness.

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Speaker 1: I am what's stunned beyond belief over this, I mean

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Speaker 2: I have never I don't know. I mean I will.

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Speaker 1: I will keep to myself on this one because everyone,

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Speaker 1: I think understands where I am. I am hopeful that

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Speaker 1: never having watched a March Madness game, I just want

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Speaker 1: to be very clear on this. Never I've never watched one,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not going through this month either, But I

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Speaker 1: am hoping that I can take Clay down in the

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Speaker 1: about it for a week on the radio. That is

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Speaker 1: my and he has to take me out for a stake.

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Speaker 1: So this is my fond my fond dream, Clay, do

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Speaker 1: you want to get to these? Pretty much all the

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Speaker 1: talkbacks are on this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Let's give people opportunity hour three to continue. I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to play this one because these two were very funny.

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Speaker 1: Let's play talkback ee the Great Battle over Gladiator two.

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Speaker 2: Nate from Utah wanted to weigh in.

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Speaker 7: I just want to say, I think you guys balance

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Speaker 7: has to go solo. It's still a good show. But

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Speaker 7: just not quite the same. So I hope you guys

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Speaker 7: can keep the show going together for many more years

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Speaker 7: to come. And I just want to say, Clay Gladiator

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Speaker 7: two sucked.

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Speaker 1: At least very taste in movies for sure, very nice

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Speaker 1: and then off the top and then I love this

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Speaker 1: this is a man who's fired up about your dislike

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Speaker 1: for pickles.

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Speaker 2: FF.

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Speaker 8: I'd admit I'm just a little bit confused because apparently

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Speaker 8: Buck thinks pickles are not okay on hamburgers, but somehow

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Speaker 8: pickles is okay on football players. I don't know, Like

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Speaker 8: I say, a little confused, but it's all good.

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Speaker 1: Very well played Buck, who inadvertently thought George Pickens was

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Speaker 1: George Pickles when it came to sports picks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Anti pickles on hamburgers, pro pickles on the football field.

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Speaker 1: That's a good callback from that listener. I will say

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Speaker 1: I got smoked in my own poll on that one

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of people on X that they like

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Speaker 1: pickles on hamburgers. The world has gone insane. Great taste